"that's essentially it for the most part but... we have a lot of exceptions..." - And I'm like : Oh, no. not this, please :( "...and a lot of alternative patterns to go through..." Oh my gosh, please, no, stop it. Lol
That's pretty much every language, we just don't think about it in our native language because it's instinctive but, they'll all have tons of exceptions, overlapping sounds and a lot of accepted mistakes and contractions on spoken language :)
Your class is of immense help. I've been learning Swedish for a month now since I intent to move to Sweden sometime in 2017. I speak German and this is both helping and confusing at times. Tack så mycket!
Nice. The m and n spelling exceptions explain why we have "man" but also "mannen", or "vän" but "vännen". p.s. Swedish vowels can be long or short but they are always painful. ;)
i am attending a swedish classs for about 4 months nnow because i wanna go to sweden for an intership. i get the language feeling now but there are sooo many exceptions its infuriating. thank you for pointing all the pronunciations :)
Hi, I have a question! When in a word there is more than one vowel, from which one I have to look how many consonants there are? For example, in word like: Potatis - ( Do I have to count consonants from "O"" or "A" or "I"? ) P.S. Thank you for this video.
Wouldnt that depend on where you live though? Here in the south words like ort, bort, snart the vowel becomes long as we often make the "r" silent. (ååt, bååt, snaat)
@@cuffzter Teaching accents is way more complicated. I live in Northern värmland e.t.c and we chopp off the words. Kasta - Kast Springa - Spring Vad hadde du för dig idag då? - Va haddu förä ida ra. Buske - Busk Stationen - Statioon Typ som att lära ut helt nya språk :D
Apparently I'm not the only one. I heard much more about long and short consonants when expecting vowels. I'm sure there's a relationship, but it wasn't made
Can you give me an example of what is unclear? From what I can see when glancing through the video, every time I mention specific consonants or consonant length I relate it to the preceding vowel too, but maybe I'm missing something?
I have no idea what consonant length is and after 2:50 I'm lost. The penknife penny explanation didn't clear anything up. Both syllables in each have the n sound when pronounced so I'm not sure what your trying to contrast there.
Awesome and clear video. On 5:50: "kanon" comes in both a long and a short form with altering meanings. And then kanel, kanyl, manet, manege etc, as well as sifon, senil, keton, niacin, palaver, multiplikator... anytime you have a stressed long vowel at second place or later, the one just before it is *short* by rule regardless of consonants.
I did not get the thing with R, L, N 6:52, you say that this rule doesn't cover "mr ml mn gr gl gn" as the G and M are long? I don't get the point of this. Why G and M are always "long"? And what does this "longness" mean ?
I mean that since M is usually written only once even when it makes no sense, this creates an exception to the rule, since we for some reason don't want spellings like -mmr- or -mmn-. The G is only for GN, when the pronunciation is NG-N, because the NG part is pronounced long.
Alright, I got it but when does "GN" becomes "NG-N"? Since I've watched your videos iteratively from the beginning, there was no preceding "how to spell (or treat) consonants in Swedish words" (or have I missed it?)
You haven't missed anything, I just never made it to the video about the ng sound yet... The combination 'gn' is commonly pronounced [ŋ:n] (ng-n), especially in native words.
can you introduce us an online dictionary with phonetic symbols? the best one i can find so far is folkets-lexikon.csc.kth.se/folkets/folkets.en.html#lookup&spela but it's not good enough since it doesn't include the pronunciation of inflected forms of a same word.
'saker' can have either accent in the standard language. Both sound equally fine to me, but you're not the first to comment on it! It seems that accent 1 has grown more common over time.
Vet inte, kanske en på engelska då engelska har särskrivning, eller på svenska där du visar hur man undviker det, kanske också att du visar ordkombinationer där det är viktigt. Du vet nog bättre än mig hur man gör en bra video.
Added length, volume and sometimes increased pitch, for emphasis. In English, "-ige" in "prestige" and "-git" in "illegitimate", are stressed. One is long, the other one short.
"that's essentially it for the most part but... we have a lot of exceptions..." - And I'm like : Oh, no. not this, please :( "...and a lot of alternative patterns to go through..." Oh my gosh, please, no, stop it. Lol
That's pretty much every language, we just don't think about it in our native language because it's instinctive but, they'll all have tons of exceptions, overlapping sounds and a lot of accepted mistakes and contractions on spoken language :)
this is so far the best explanation on swedish sounds. you pointed out the subtle features and that makes things a lot clearer.
Thank you very much for your kind words!
This channel deserves more attention!
Your class is of immense help. I've been learning Swedish for a month now since I intent to move to Sweden sometime in 2017. I speak German and this is both helping and confusing at times. Tack så mycket!
Thank you very much!
Did you move to Sweden?
@@LOrco_ I went to Norway for a year and now I am back. I did visit Sweden though :)
Nice. The m and n spelling exceptions explain why we have "man" but also "mannen", or "vän" but "vännen".
p.s. Swedish vowels can be long or short but they are always painful. ;)
i am attending a swedish classs for about 4 months nnow because i wanna go to sweden for an intership. i get the language feeling now but there are sooo many exceptions its infuriating. thank you for pointing all the pronunciations :)
Tack så mycket. De flesta hjälp förklaringar av svenska på RUclips.
I know in 4-6 years to late but you should make more swedish vids so I can learn more XD
RIP immigrants. XD
tack så mycket
Hi, I have a question! When in a word there is more than one vowel, from which one I have to look how many consonants there are?
For example, in word like:
Potatis - ( Do I have to count consonants from "O"" or "A" or "I"? )
P.S. Thank you for this video.
The stressed vowel is the only one relevant for length!
Thank you for your video!!!And a vokal followed by RT(in the video you just say RL,RN,RD,LN) ,is it also pronunced long?
No, before _rs_ and _rt_ the vowel is usually short! :)
Wouldnt that depend on where you live though? Here in the south words like ort, bort, snart the vowel becomes long as we often make the "r" silent. (ååt, bååt, snaat)
@@cuffzter Teaching accents is way more complicated. I live in Northern värmland e.t.c and we chopp off the words.
Kasta - Kast
Springa - Spring
Vad hadde du för dig idag då? - Va haddu förä ida ra.
Buske - Busk
Stationen - Statioon
Typ som att lära ut helt nya språk :D
I didn't really get it :/
Anything in particular that wasn't as clear as it could have been?
Academia Cervena I don't get how you recognise what vowel is long or short
Apparently I'm not the only one. I heard much more about long and short consonants when expecting vowels. I'm sure there's a relationship, but it wasn't made
Can you give me an example of what is unclear? From what I can see when glancing through the video, every time I mention specific consonants or consonant length I relate it to the preceding vowel too, but maybe I'm missing something?
I have no idea what consonant length is and after 2:50 I'm lost. The penknife penny explanation didn't clear anything up. Both syllables in each have the n sound when pronounced so I'm not sure what your trying to contrast there.
0:38 saker is not pronounced with that intonation.
It can be, it's one of those few words where both accent types are acceptable.
Academia Cervena Sounds dialectal
I watch all of your videos just because I like hearing you pronounce Swedish words.
Awesome and clear video.
On 5:50: "kanon" comes in both a long and a short form with altering meanings. And then kanel, kanyl, manet, manege etc, as well as sifon, senil, keton, niacin, palaver, multiplikator... anytime you have a stressed long vowel at second place or later, the one just before it is *short* by rule regardless of consonants.
I did not get the thing with R, L, N 6:52, you say that this rule doesn't cover "mr ml mn gr gl gn" as the G and M are long? I don't get the point of this. Why G and M are always "long"? And what does this "longness" mean ?
I mean that since M is usually written only once even when it makes no sense, this creates an exception to the rule, since we for some reason don't want spellings like -mmr- or -mmn-. The G is only for GN, when the pronunciation is NG-N, because the NG part is pronounced long.
Alright, I got it but when does "GN" becomes "NG-N"? Since I've watched your videos iteratively from the beginning, there was no preceding "how to spell (or treat) consonants in Swedish words" (or have I missed it?)
You haven't missed anything, I just never made it to the video about the ng sound yet... The combination 'gn' is commonly pronounced [ŋ:n] (ng-n), especially in native words.
Bra, Jag forstar nu! Tack för lektionerna
can you introduce us an online dictionary with phonetic symbols? the best one i can find so far is folkets-lexikon.csc.kth.se/folkets/folkets.en.html#lookup&spela
but it's not good enough since it doesn't include the pronunciation of inflected forms of a same word.
I'm sorry to say that I don't know of anything better available online :(
why did you pronounce "saker" with acc.2 at 0:38? i've never heard that in my entire life
'saker' can have either accent in the standard language. Both sound equally fine to me, but you're not the first to comment on it! It seems that accent 1 has grown more common over time.
@@AcademiaCervena then again, i come from up north and i have acc.1 in 99% of words that have any sort of optionality :p
Du borde göra en video om särskrivning.
Hurdan vinkling tänker du att en sådan video skulle ha? :)
Vet inte, kanske en på engelska då engelska har särskrivning, eller på svenska där du visar hur man undviker det, kanske också att du visar ordkombinationer där det är viktigt. Du vet nog bättre än mig hur man gör en bra video.
what does it mean stressed and not stressed?
Added length, volume and sometimes increased pitch, for emphasis.
In English, "-ige" in "prestige" and "-git" in "illegitimate", are stressed. One is long, the other one short.
Great lessons, but hard to hear.
I am aware the volume and sound quality in my older videos aren't quite optimal. It's a lot better in my newer videos!
OMG! With so much exception swedish has no rules
what a mess of a language..