Karl Dönitz - Commander of the Wolfpack Documentary
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Donitz only ordered the "total war" command after the U-boat that sank the Laconia (I think) was helping survivors, while a huge red cross was draped over the U-boat, then being attacked by a US bomber. This plane not only attacked the U-boat, but also killed the civilian passengers in 2 rescue boats. The U-boat commander risked his boat and the lives of his men. After the attack, then and only then did he issue that order. Out of necessity.
You, sir, are absolutely correct. The ship that was sunk was the Laconia. Dönitz only issued the order as a result of everything which transpired after the vessel sunk, and his submariners went in to rescue the vessel's survivors, and were still attacked by allied forces
Not only this but the submarine commander put a call out on open air waves knowing that it would be intercepted by allied command (hoping that the allies would come and help).
He asked that any Uboats in the area help him rescue survivors. Two other Uboats, possibly more, answered the call and also flew the red cross attempting to help rescue survivors.
On a side note, it was an American Liberator. It also circled the Uboats at low altitude allowing it to see that not only were the Uboats rescuing survivors, not shooting at the plane but also flying the Red Cross on their conning towers. After it circled them a few times, it began strafing them.
Thanks for that information, never heard that before. Amazing how 1 titbit of information changes everything
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He was complying with the "Cruiser Rules" dictated by the treaty of Versailles which stated that a submarine had to allow the crew to stop and disembark into lifeboats before sinking their ship. I agree though, the guy that bombed the U-Boats that were trying to save people was an A-hole It's amazing how things often hinge on relatively small mistakes made by small people. Hitler never intended that the Luftwaff bomb London. It all started because one German bomber flown by a rookie flew off course.
Donitz was doing his job, stopping war supplies from reaching England. Our submarine fleet did the same thing to Japan with the same goal, make them surrender.
He was a wwi hero and kept the u boot service honorable
He was a true man.
Our? Only Americans can watch this?
@@chrissmith3509 🙄🤡
@@chrissmith3509 relax I’m sure he/she didn’t mean that. Allied would have been a better word.
@@chrissmith3509 stop being a cry bee otch U know exactly what that person was saying
Definitely He was a Very Accomplished Man with a very High intelligence Level too go with His Eventual success in His Naval Career.
Thank You for Sharing this Documentary on Him.
Your videos are so well searched and narrated! Thanks for them!
Greatest work
Thanks. Been waiting for doenitzs videos by you for almost a year. Good job.
Sharing your research about Adm. Donitz is appreciated. He was a fine sailor an was also one who was respected for his naval warfare skills. Thank you.
Well, he should be. It isn’t every man who is strong enough to sink ships with civilians, children, no way to defend themselves
@@BCSoHappyif the americans didnt filled those ships with weapons that would have never happened
@@BCSoHappyThere were no children on merchant ships transporting military hardware. Only sailors. They didn’t target ferries and hospital ships either, Uboat commanders and sailors were not cruel.
I wonder how many lives were spared on both sides by Admiral Karl Dönitz when he as the Reich President surrendered to the Allies? He was a sailor that took orders and served his country. I honestly feel that he should not have been tried for war crimes let alone having to serve time in prison.
Watched from Jamaica thou far away from the front yet Donitz's hands were felt here. His U-boats patroled our waters sank and damage ships. One particular ship(I believe it's name was the Web Star) that was sank, the crew was aided by submariners and after giving them a loaf of bread a ship crew looked on the lable and say that it was from Huntinson Barkery, Cross Road, Kingston, Jamaica! Those U-boat crew would secretly come ashore and enjoy themselves. I know of one U-boat that was attacked and probeble sank off out east coast U-759 by US navy plane VP-32. and I know of another US navy squadron (VS-60) that attacked 2 sub while based at Vernam Field (Jamaica). I think he was treaded fairly.
The U-Boats probably had their greatest success in the Caribbean.
Submarine warfare had already certainly made enough of an impact even before the second world war... to the point where back in 1919, the US government decided to purchase several Caribbean islands from the Dutch, and is how the United States Virgin islands came to be. Obviously there were numerous different reasons which motivated the decision for them doing it, but initially in the very beginning, the primary purpose behind the US acquisition of these little islands was so they could construct military (especially naval) installations, and could be used both as a sort of defensive position (along with several other places throughout the area), as well as a place with which they could execute launch/recovery, refuel/rearm/resupply, maintenance/repair, etc operations of US naval vessels, especially submarines. I actually used to work at & live near the former naval (submarine) facilities, down by the main harbor on the southern coast of St. Thomas. And although it hasn't been an actual active US navy yard/installation for many years now, to this day, all of the locals & anyone else who knows the area still refer to it just as "sub base"
Donitz is an interesting person to study. Since he shows many of the weaknesses of the Germany Navy, which in my opinion was still looking at WW1 and using older obsolete ideas. He did as well he could with his U-Boats. He a good group of well trained officers and men at the start of the war, but no real reserves. Like the Japanese Naval Aviators. By 1994, the old-U-boats that started the war were obsolete. It was waste to continue to send them on patrols with an almost zero chance to survive. I suspect he knew more about the slave labor camps and other activities then was brought out at Nuremburg. He was lucky to get only 10 years, but it helped he had the best lawyer of all the defendants.
1944*
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Sorry, but the Royal Oak was not off Scapa Flow, she was inside Scapa Flow at anchor. U 47 penetrated the harbor, sank a battleship and escaped. Actually quite a feat.
The order not to assist survivors of sinkings was as a direct result of the "Laconia incidence " understandable when the actions of the Allies in that event are taken into account.
Perhaps more prosaically, it would be quite difficult to host a significant number of survivors of a ship into or on the deck of a type 7 sub, considering that such would have the battle capability of the sub rendered zero until the survivors were passed onto shore some couple of weeks later.
@@charlesrousseau6837 Correct. In this instance the submarine captain radioed for help and promised not to attack any vessel that might come to help. But instead the allies sent out a bomber to attack the sub.
Because of this the order was given not to assist survivers of sinkings as it put the survival of the u boat and its crew at risk.
According to war journalist James P O' Donnell in his book "The Berlin Bunker" Hitler only started inquiring about Donitz after he felt betrayed by his generals when Stiener didn't initiate the counter offensive to liberate Berlin because at that time he seldom trusted anyone in his inner circle after Himmler and Goring's betrayal so he opted to give the only military commander who wasn't involved in the politics of the Reich the Presidency in his final will and testament which was typed by Martin Bormann in the bunker and not because Donitz's Nazi affiliation
I've always thought it odd that it would be a Naval Officer who would be appointed as the last leader of Nazi Germany 🇩🇪
That’s a good post. It was certainly a slap at the Wehrmacht leadership.
And Goebbels was #3 in line until after both Goering and Himmler pissed Hitler off. I can't believe they missed/neglected that part, as it's common knowledge among WWII geeks.
@@cpfs936 recall a Hitler quote asking one of his secretary's to "rack your brains" for a successor in or around 1943. Nobody was ever going to be up to Hitler's personal standards of leadership especially late in the War. But obviously by April 29, 1945 Hitler had no illusions that any of these leadership roles that he put in his Last Will would be acceptable. The most surprised man in the world was Donitz himself, and it probably earned him 10 years at Spandau Prison.
Karl Donitz was NOT a Nazi ; in fact he refused ever to give the Nazi salute and always used the naval one ; there is a famous picture of Hitler inspecting Battleship Bismarck and Doenitz giving the naval salute while others around him gave the nazi one .
Adding the little I know , Dönitz was liked by the sea men, he also had a tendency to come and welcome u-boats from their mission.
He also sent daily messages to all his boats at sea as he likewise loved his men. The allies were able to break the naval enigma code in no small part due to that.
Some Uboat skippers figured it out and stopped replying. Once the boat replied the allies could pinpoint the boat's location even before they broke the naval enigma.
This may all be mentioned. Still watching so who knows haha.
@@joem3999 yes the brittish code crackers needed a larger statistical sample of words to work on.
The more radio traffic better for the code crackers.
the brittish code crackers "anchor" was was north east west south weather etc and so on in a decending scale of importance.
Also the german dictionary of words in decending order.
They only used statistical methods when cracking.
through the years I never heared a documentary about USA intelligence in these years... what did they achieve if anything basic?
No the brittish really fought this war well on all fronts. Nothing to complain about.
Also ASDIC needed to be mounted on the vessels to hunt uboats. ( you know this from the movies )
But this is the problem of superpowers ... you think that you have a great design , and you field them in numbers .... then things change .... the cost to replace them with a brand new design is too high. So you modify the vehicles you got. And in this case fielding as much ASDIC as you possibly can in a hurry.
the destroyers were desired everywhere by commanders so they might not be there but the corvettes sure was .... so usually mathematically the destroyers be ahead and on the flanks and the corvettes further back since once the uboat dowe underneath finally the corvettes could catch up. But the destroyers were desirable and maybe the formation was only denfended by corvettes. Germans note so many uboat crews died what about allied crews?
@@MajSolo At what point did I mention Americans or British or ANYONE else by name? I said "Allies" did I not?
It's ok to be proud, but not an idiot.
According to war journalist James P O' Donnell in his book "The Berlin Bunker" Hitler only started inquiring about Donitz after he felt betrayed by his generals when Stiener didn't initiate the counter offensive to liberate Berlin because at that time he seldom trusted anyone in his inner circle after Himmler and Goring's betrayal so he opted to give the only military commander who wasn't involved in the politics of the Reich the Presidency in his final will and testament which was typed by Martin Bormann in the bunker and not because Donitz's Nazi affiliation. As a man, who gave his life and two sons in the 39-45 war, Karl Doenitz; was only one man who was there at the time to take on his duties. Many British officers did the same thing in India and many parts of Africa, the Sudan and South Africa to name few.
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Another excellent video! Thanks!!👍
Another superb bio.
this is one of the best WWII docs I've ever watched front to back.... Well done.
Excellent still-motion photography pictures. Enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing-!!!😉
This is the first and only "The People Profiles" video I've seen.
Bravo.
It is astounding what is absent: bullshit. Thank you.
The small hats have not yet spread their hate here
He was a loyal commander he deserves respect for that.
He was a hardcore Nazi.
@@raulm1961 So?
@@jacksonreilly3441 Really.. 6 million butchered men women and children
@@jacksonreilly3441 So it sullies his otherwise high reputation as a skilled naval commander.
@@madgavin7568 This is a specious argument. While Grossadmiral Doenitz did adhere to the policies of the
NSDAP, there is no evidence that he was ever a party member and he achieved all of his promotions in rank
through military proficiency rather than political influence. In fact, it was contrary to law in the Reich for
serving members of the Wehrmacht to hold NSDAP membership. Along the same lines, have you researched the
political sympathies of senior Allied military officers such as Field Marshal Montgomery, General Eisenhower,
Admiral Nimitz or Marshal of the RAF Sir Arthur Harris? What of Marshal Georgy Zhukov of Stalin's Red Army?
Is there any possibility he may have harboured communist beliefs or sympathies? Standards which are not
applied equally are not really standards at all.
I made a comment 1 hour before this got released asking for a video on the grand admiral ! Wow
my dad was in the british merchant navy, carrying 17,000 tonnes of munitions, cross the atlantic, then the med to resupply monty. he survived lots did not. some ppl say the canandian converted fishing boats turned the tide. not so the british destroyers got radar and sonar. and got an enigma machine.
Those men are unsung heroes and your Dad was very brave. If you watch documentaries like "Victory at Sea", you"ll see examples of the atrocious conditions they had to fight in, in the North Atlantic. Ships tossed by waves hundred feet high and coated with ice. Torpedoed ships spilled flaming oil and men into that oil in the sea. So in a freezing sea, men essentially burned to death or escaped and froze to death. Horrible.
I think some of his relatives have settled here in Australia, and have a shop called "Dunking Donutz"
My father's boss, U-boot commander Ernst Jürgen Vanselow (1918-2006). My brother (Peter) and miself (Klaus) still alive and kicking...jeje😂
Not only this but the submarine commander put a call out on open air waves knowing that it would be intercepted by allied command (hoping that the allies would come and help).
He asked that any Uboats in the area help him rescue survivors. Two other Uboats, possibly more, answered the call and also flew the red cross attempting to help rescue survivors.
On a side note, it was an American Liberator. It also circled the Uboats at low altitude allowing it to see that not only were the Uboats rescuing survivors, not shooting at the plane but also flying the Red Cross on their conning towers. After it circled them a few times, it began strafing them.
Admiral Donny a true naval officer lost two sons in the great war. Allies respected him. Hence he was shown leniency
In war you do whats needed. The alies also blockaded the resource shipping to germany. They also killed millions of suviliens in ar raids. The even sank a u boat that carried hundreds of alied survivors, but none of those people were on trail.
He served 10 years in prison.
He knowing approved of slave labor to build his U-boats. He was in no way an innocent.
Haha, slave labour (Italian POW's) were used in South Africa, by the British, to build roads and mountain passes. So WHILE the British were doing that, they accused the Germans of the same thing.
From May 43 to May 45 german uboats went to a New stage that Dönitz himself called total undersea war. Equipped with schnorkels uboats hid in the shallow waters around Britain and the US East Coast. They could stay under water for up to 70 days. Uboats lost to airpatrols dropped dramatically and blechley park had less material to work with since uboats became almost radio silent
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Professional class A research project!!! Donitz down fall was his stupidity/arrogance failing to grasp 👊 the fact that Bletchley park's code breakers. Did just that/ broke the enigma code. Not to mention the fact he didn't have enough submarines. To cut ✂ off Britain's supply line for survival. Along with advancements in sonar/convoy escorts after 1942 the Uboat advantage quickly deteriorated.
The alies never considered unrestricted bombings on German cities like the nuclear bomb of japan a war crime
To the victors go the spoils.
The Germans did the same, but just not on the scale the Allies did. Rotterdam bombing was an outrage at the time, but the German's already bombed civilians in the Spanish Civil War.
but it was.
The most sad thing about Carl Dønitz beside the fact he nearly drowned in world war 1 when the uboat he served on was bombed out of the water - but what i mean is that the way he tried to manage and control the uboat fleet by demanding them to report back to base quiet often by radio without not ever suspects the enigma code maschine was breached already in the year of late 1942 by the team at blechy park - the system briefly was working without the allied could listen with becauce the germans exspanded the enigma kode maschine with 2 ekstra wheels making the coding more safe but some time in 1943 it was able to read the messages from Dønitz to the uboat and from the uboat back to the navy headquater making it possible to trace the boats and sink them rather effective - if the uboats had secret messages on papers it would have been safer overall - maybe the only person not to see that was Dønits
Wiah he had drowned with all the other nazis
Good luck getting a secret message on paper to a U-boat in the Atlantic
Informative documentary coverage video about Donits print fingers through leading Nazism nevagation efforts .especially submarines weapons ...he became 3rd Riech Chancellor ....in last times of Nazism regimes period...thanks for sharing
Doenitz was never Chancellor, as stated early on in this film; he was the nominated head of state; the chancellor after Hitler was (briefly) Goebbels, and then - in fact if not in title - Lutz Graf Schwerin von Krosigk.
Dropping a nuclear bomb on civilians is not considered a war crime?
This argument is always made. But I don’t think anyone alive now can actually understand the mindset of world leaders after 6 years of total war. The case was made at the time that Hiroshima Was a legitimate target because of the factories with in the city. I myself am personally of the opinion that thousands were dying every day and Anything that could Stop it was a good and necessary thing
@@davidhatton583 The Joint Chiefs told Truman it would have taken 1.5 million US GIs to invade and conquer Japan, because they believe every Japanese civilian would be fighting in the streets, they estimated at least 750,000 GIs would die in this scenerio. Truman had no appetite for that. So they went the route of the bomb.
Karl Dönitz knew that he did not have enough submarines to defeat UK or prevent Baltic Fleet or Black Sea Fleet from defending Sevastopol or Leningrad. Reason why he went along with it was his personal ambition and possibly believe that Luftwaffe and Heer could cover what the Kriegsmarine lacked.
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very excellent docu. thsank you for a great job. cheers from Greenland.
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It is not menthioned that during the Nuremberg trails, US Navy Admiral Chester Nimitz signed a declaration stating that Admiral Donitz acted under the rules of engagement and did not commit any war crime. Donitz once in position as leader of the German country made great efforts in order to save as many lives as possible moving his troops and civilians west to the US and British front. Their is no doubt that hes was a very interesting actor of WWII and therefore he received the last recognition at his funeral.
While Chester Nimitz did advise allied prosecutors that the USN did often resort to harsh measures in the Pacific, but only after multiple incidents of Japanese sailors being rescued and then detonating grenades onboard US subs, or attempting to kill US sub crew.
Here are the only two documented instances of the SAME British RN sub commander being reprimanded for killing sinking survivors
HMSub Torbay (Lt Comm Anthony Miers) 4th July 1941 , unnamed Cretan schooner (~50 tons) 36'01N,23'06E
HMSub Torbay (Lt Comm Anthony Miers) 4th July 1941 , unnamed Cretan schooner (~50 tons) 35.43N,23.12E
His actions on the 4th & 9th July 1941 at resulted in Torbay's commander (Lt Com Anthony Miers) being severely reprimanded and ordered to cease such actions by Adm Max Horton.
The are a larger (but still a relatively small number) of incidents of German U-boats gunning survivors,
U-37 (KL Victor Oehrn) 23 August 1940, British ship "Severn Leigh" (5242grt) 54'31'N,25'41W
U-552 (KL Erich Topp) 3 March 1942, US ship "David H. Atwater"(2428grt) 37'57N, 75'10W
U-126 (KL Ernst Bauer) 8 March 1942 Panamanian Tanker "Esso Bolivar" (10389grt) 19'38N,74'38W
U-172 (KL Carl Emmermann) 24 June 1942 Colombian Sailing Vessel "Resolute"(35grt)13'15N,80'30W
U-754(KL Johanns Oestermann) 28 July 1942 US Fishing Vessel "Ebb"(259grt) 43'18N,63'50W
U-852(KL Heinz-Wilhelm Eck) 13 March 1944 Hellenic Steamship "Peleus"(4695grt) 02'00S,10'00W
U-532(FK Ottoheinrich Junker) 27 March 1944 British Ship "Tulagi"(228grt) 11'00S,78'40E
the most egregious of which (known as the "Peleus incident" and committed by the U-852 (KptLt Eck) resulted in the post war execution of Eck and two of his crew members for the massacre of 33 survivors.
The war in the pacific was FAR harsher on survivors of sinkings with both US & Japanese captains far more likely to kill defenceless survivors.
A fantastic piece....ive never heard of him until i saw this......i think his punishment of 10 years was fair only due to the fact that he was a dog of war following orders...
Now you gotta do some Italian commanders in WW2
Can't find any.
Carl, as with so many others in the German military, was a brilliant Officer, dedicated to his country and people. Erwin Rommel was sentenced to death by Hitler. For opposing Hitler on the camps killing and being falsely accused of joining the underground plotting his assassination. Hitler killed 84 of his own Officers before destroying Germany and Europe. He created an atmosphere that so many would be blamed for his actions. The military was under orders, as any veteran knows what can happen when you disobey orders. It is all very tragic but the Nazi Party was fighting Communists in the streets before Hitler came to power. Now, the world is again fighting Communists infiltrating many governments including America.
Nazis and Commies both are radical left. And the leftists deny it.
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Thanks!
Thank you!
Not quite accurate regarding Donitz succession to Hitler. When President Hindenburg died in 1934 Hitler, who was already Chancellor, assumed the duties of President as well. Hitler appointed Donitz as President and Goebbles as Chancellor, thereby reestablishing the old model. With Goebbles suicide on May 1, 1945, Donitz assumed the powers of Chancellor more or less by default. Not that it really mattered much. Donitz was not, however, named as Goebbles successor by Hitler in his will.
Always the go-getter, the Great Submariner's nickname from childhood was "Dunkin'".
'Dunkin Dontiz' 😅
@@bravosierra2447 Lol
Very well done wow this should grow huge
Raeder wasn't sacked - he insisted on retirement against Hitler's wishes; although if Hitler had wanted to insist he remain, it would have been impossible for him to do anything else. In that respect only, he could be said to have been dismissed. Doenitz did not succed Goebbels, he succeeded Hitler - Goebbels was never head of state. As for whether he was treated leniently or not - it's a bit late now to get worked up about it, but compared with comparable war crimes by the Russians, and, arguably, the blanket bombing of Hamburg, Wurzburg and Dresden, there was at least an element of victor's justice, even if his defence didn't really stand up on the 'just obeying orders' front.
This was a good documentary - pronunciation of German names correct, for once, and so far as I'm any judge, broadly accurate. The inaccuracies aren't that important, but still need correction.
Good documentary but completely left out that he became a leader in the post war Bundesmarine and was very much respected by his men. History is written by the victor- imagine the war trials of ‘Bomber Harries’ and others killing civilians…
Arthur Seyss Inquart maybe
I had an idea to open a chain of Donut shops called "Karl's Donuts", but I couldn't get any funding. I was going to sell Sinkers and Luftwaffles. I still think it was a great idea.
Great video!
I believe sadly that Doneitz was perhaps entirely reasonable in his submission that the two deserters face the ultimate penalty, no matter the war was at an end
Did he have a brother Dunkin Donitz?
No, that was Sunken Donuts, his boat sank.
All very interesting and well presented. But shops are ‘sunk’, not sank!
So Donutz had to do day for day on his little ol' ten spot. That ain't doodly-squat.
He got off easy, could have went to a hemp rope dance or LWOP.
Hero
Dönitz...Yeah. During the war, German submarines sank all kinds of merchant ships. They only made an exception for the ships of Aristotle Onassis... Why?... After the war, the US Congress began an investigation into this strange fact. Two months after the investigation began, it was abruptly terminated, without fanfare or explanation.
Jack Parsons n von brauns occult side of notaspaceagency would b a great show
Parsons was really into it! As was JFC Fuller, the British founder of Blitzkrieg tactics which Guderian read.
Donitz sent 80% of his submariners to their death.
They volunteered for U-boat duty. they all knew the risks.
Wow, ho can say that soliders duty is to die if necessary 😅
@@kulrul9180 … aside from Kamikaze pilots who else than Donitz’s submariners had a higher fatality rate?
@@Idahoguy10157 you say this as if the men who went werent willing
Hows tel aviv today?
He Voz a Vor Kriminal !
I BELEIF he was just following order's ! As a Jerman OFICER THANK YOU FOR THIS SHOW ! ,OF HISTORY !!! AMEN 🙏!!! 🙏 😮
The British got there first ENIGMA machine in 1939 from the Polish
Just my humble opinion, but I think Hitler chose him as successor, not only because he trusted Doenitz, but also, that Hitler thought the U-boat leader was the only person left that could save what was left of Germany from the Soviets and negotiate whatever was left with the allies.
Karl Donitz; cmdr of Wolfpack subs; U-Boat flotilla (fleet); 300 subs; U-Boat undersea boat; submersible ships; battleships n warships;
37000 u boot men volunteered knowing they signed on to an iron coffin. His u boat leadersip taught American submariners how to defeat Japans shipping.
Dontiz would have been sentenced more harshly for his war crimes had the allies not also commited some of those same crimes.57:52
My view, Karl Dönitz: He was in it for the naval thing, not the political thing.
Hitler's successor though. He was definitely into the politics
@@destubae3271 you are not bright
@@music2872 Or you didn't watch this video and base your knowledge on assumptions on him vs the reality of his views.
Shiiiiit… that man got off with a slap on the wrist
English had war crimes but were never brought to court. Doenitz was a hero for German people.
Next time you make a documentary about Dönitz, make it about Dönitz, not about some trivial WW2 information.
He was no.more guilty of war crimes than Nelson was at trafalgar or even the British n USA navy's during ww2 too
Another military blunder: Hitler had no Naval force of any serious consequences. Wolf submarine forces disrupted British shipping however that is far from, conversely, the British juggernaut naval forces of 1938-45.
Interesting documentary
Karl Donitz; cmdr of U-Boat Wolfpacks (subs); U-Boat flotilla (fleet); 300 subs; U-Boat undersea boat; submersible ships; battleships n warships; U-Boat undersea boat; as a result; as a consequence;
Man, there's a lot of plain mistakes in this doc. The U boat force literally did nothing even remotely comparable to war crimes, as attested to by an American Admiral in the Nuremberg trials defending Doeniz and the U boat force, saying that they operated under exactly the same rules of engagement as the US submariners did. Now, the Athenia sinking was, like every attack done by the captain independently assessing whether the target was a legitimate one according what were know as the prize rules. Athenia was considered a legitimate target, since it was suspected that it was carrying troops and/or war materials for the enemy, the mistake was that generally passenger ships weren't attack with the exception of troop transports. Later it was confirmed that the Athenia was in fact carrying war materials for the allies, making it a legitimate target which wasn't clear at the time. Lastly, the scapa flow operation was designed from the get go SPECIFICALLY to sink a capital ship to prove the efficacy of the U boat, which made the operation a complete success and was NEVER designed for more than one U boat to accomplish. There seem to a lot of fundamental misunderstandings at play in this doc, for instance submarines in the WW2 were first and foremost designed to sink merchant shipping specifically. And the main weapon for killing subs were depth charges, and no one would ever try to attack a sub with mines.
Soooo...have I got this right? On the VERY FIRST DAY of Britain's war, this ship was "confirmed" as "carrying war materials for the allies" AWAY from Liverpool en route to Canada? Hey, good to know!
couldn"t you use the real photo of Doenitz??
I am wondering why the virgin Dönitz was not condemned to death! The same as the virgin Paulus! something is not told! But the allies have to hide a lot of things both in the first and second war! Why är the archives not open? Questions not answered?
The same war crimes were done to Algerian people during the war for independence during 1954 to 1962 and even worse
No one cares about sand people bruh
Narrative must have been slowed. 1.5x sounds normal
My uncle was in German navy. He did say that on the subs most were using armpits in stead of behinds. My uncle said his two armpits were used so much he retired to france
Would he really admit that? The men did get top choice ladies of ill repute in port. A cruise was about 6 weeks from the memoirs I've read.
World War One , was not the first truly Globel War.
The First true World War , was known in North America as the French and Indian War, and in Europe as the Seven Years War, it involved multiple nations and was fought on Multiple Continents.
Germany as we know it is a very young country being born more or less in 1871.
The Germanic Peoples of central europe was host to multiple German Countries and city states and bishoprics.
More or less a thousand years ago these nations formed an Empire , known as the Holy Roman Empire.
The leaders of these nations kings , Dukes , Earls, etc would elect a Emperor , each would provide tax and supply troops to the Imperial Armee and Navy etc.
But these states maintained there own armed forces as well.
The Kingdom of Prussia was a long alley of Great Britain.
The Kingdom of Bavaria was an ally of France .
Thus these other German States allied themselves with out side powers , and from time to time this brought these German states into conflict and if you will Civil War with one another, .
Austria more or less was the Supreme state during the Holy Roman Empire, .
Over Time Prussia would rise to prominence and challenge Austria.
King George the 1st was a German and was as they say a minor royal in the Holy Roman Empire.
He would become King of England , Followed by his son and Grandson etc
The Holy Roman Empire in modern times is referred to as the first reich, .
More or less Napoleon ended the Holy Roman Empire.
But the British and Germans particularly the Kingdom of Prussia and the lands that the British Royal Family possed in what we call Germany.
The German Bund would be created uniting the Various kingdoms, Dutchies , Free City States , Bishoprics etc after the conclusion of the Napoleonic Wars.
Yet the Kingdom of Prussia would not end its rivalry with the Kingdom of Austria , there would be strife and War and eventually Austria would loose these wars and be forced out of the German Bund.
If i recall correctly Austria at somepoint referred to its self as the Austrian Empire, and then would become the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
Meanwhile Bismarck come to the forefront and rise to power he wished to unite the new German Bund without Austria .
And he would succeed with the second reich during this time the goal was to strip foreign loyals out of lands within the new Germany, thus the British Royal Family lost its lands in Germany.
This began in my view the ending of the British/ Prussian Alliance esp after the passing of Queen Victoria.
And Factor was Queen Victoria is said to have favored her Grandson Wilhelm.
This in my view caused jealousy between Wilhelm and his British Cousins.
Now as per Germany building navy, i guess its against the law for some countries to build a navy?
Now lets take a look at the British Royal Navy , the British Built a navy to rule the World through control of the seas.
They had centuries of naval experience.
Compared too most other states.
And historically speaking when the Royal Navy had issues with man power, the Royal Navy went a raiding American ships and impresse aka enslave American Sailors , into the Royal Navy during Nepelonic times.
Central Europe aka the Germanic Peoples was some of the most invaded lands in europe throughout history by land and by sea.
Thus the new Imperial Germany decided to unite the New Nation into a single nation .
Thus they began building a Imperial Navy yes there were pre dreadnought, Dreadnought and Post Dreadnought class ships.
What is not known by the public but was known by the British Royal Navy and other naval experts around the world and about twenty years ago the British Government admitted the Imperial Germany Navy was no real threat to the British Royal Navy.
Why is this ?
Because the Imperial German Capital ships were pocket Battle ships built and designed to opperate in Shallow waters, they were floating mobile fortresses.
The British Royal Navy was a true blue water navy there ships were built for open ocean deep water.
Thus the few surface engagements that took place in WW1 were near the or just off the shore lines like jutland .
The man known to history as...
Wow, I always thought his name was Donuts ?
A well researched and balanced video, unusual in this, thank you.
You ask for views on Donitz.
He got off very lightly.
He was part if the inner circle of the NAZI regime.
He fully supported it's cruel intentions and never protested any of the crimes nor did ne show any remorse.
There are those who said "the only good NAZI is a dead NAZI".
I understand their point of view.
It's my belief that Karl Donitz was one of the few good Germans during WWII
Honor and respect to gross admiral D o n itz A true German waorier and gentlemen.
Firing squad please.
"Warcrimes" says the man who ignores maritime law, a ship at sea is a ship at war, when you use "civillian" liners to transport military material you open your civilian shipping to attack. The NSDAP is guilty of a lot but calling standard maritime war actions as war crimes smacks of "Victor writing the history" not proper historical analysis.
"Starve the civilian population by attacking shipping" yeah and we weren't doing that with the fire bombing of civilian targets? Jesus people, would it kill you not to try and make every firgue from regimes you dislike into a comic book villain? History is far more complex than black and white descriptions.
So is amerika, uk, ussr. China
We will rise again. S. H. Viktoria
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Dönitz was a good man and an amazing soldier
He was definitely a great tactician, and he was fortunate that like Rommel he largely avoided direct contact with the Nazi leadership especially the SS.
I still think Rommel would have been given similar treatment by the allies had he not already been forced to kill himself for involving himself with operation Valkerie.
Did he know about the gas camps?
@@brucepoole8552there's no direct evidence to say one way or another, which is partially why he was acquitted. Jodl and Keital both put their names on death orders for civilans and captured combatants. This is why the fictional "clean Whermacht" argument is nonsense. The whermarct cleared the way specifically for the death squads to build camps and kill and enslave conquered territory. It was one of their main missions during Operation Barbarosa. They also gave orders to specifically get resources to facilitate the Holocaust long after they knew the war was not going their way. They would not have been possible without orders from Himmler or Eichmain directly to the to top brass in the Whermarct. Same with the luftwaffe.
The navy would have no real reason to be involved with what was happening on land. Which is what probably saved his butt.
I will say this, it's possible that he knew in the same manner as every other German, but with no proof he could easily deny that he did.
Rommel also had no real reason to know since his campaign was in North Africa and Hitler never explicitly wanted to kill off Africans. So it would be difficult if not impossible to tie Rommel to the Holocaust definitively.
@@TwelveTribesForever my father was a ww2 veteran 101st airborn, he told as a eyewitness
@@brucepoole8552 So your WW2 vet dad knew 100% what what Donitz did or didn't know about the holocaust? Wow, that's really impressive.
Note; the Chinese pocket watch 3:33 :-)
I want to know what his occupation was from the time he was released until he died.
He retired to write his memoirs and authored two books.
This is more about submarines and ships then karl
History is always written by the winners, no doubt. What about the bombing of Desden, Hiroshima, etc...Karl Dönitz was a miitary man doing his duty for Germany. My respect for him and his sense of duty.
Donuts brought the war to a speedy end? I thought the allies did that.
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Ten years for the war crime of unrestricted submarine warfare was about right, given all the factors involved. The Allies also committed unrestricted submarine warfare, but as the victors, were not prosecuted for it. Donitz was committed to the Nazi cause and for that, he was punished.
It's not perfect. If he'd escaped any prison sentence on the grounds he was a military officer doing his duty, I'd have lost no sleep over it. At the same time, the death penalty would have been too severe in his case. That's why I say ten years was a reasonable compromise in Doenitz's case.