How to change fork springs & oil on a Yamaha MT 07 (FZ 07)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- please use this video as a guide only on how to change front fork springs & oil on a Yamaha MT 07. We accept no responsibility if you break something.
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This is possibly the best how-to video for this task on youtube. Congrats mate - Great job!
If only more youtubers took as much pride in their videos as you do! Top job!
+thebuckstopshere thank you very much for the kind words! We try
no problem - i just think its important to acknowledge good posts when youtube seems to be flooded with so much mediocrity
so thank you for making the effort mate
Good vid with clear instructions. The only thing missing for me was the fact that once the bike was sitting on it's wheels I would slacken the lower clamp bolts and axle , pump the forks a few times to settle them, then re-tighten the clamp bolts and axle again.
Thanks for the instruction video. I attempted this service of the forks and putting heavier oil in to solve the front susp. problem. Also, shortened the collar spacers with 10mm. Worked a treat. My thanks.
This video gets 4 out of 4 paws. It's just what I wanted to upgrade on my bike, will come in helpful. Informative, it shows that you give a fork.
If you loosen the calipers and pull a wheelie on the bike, you can pull out the forks without having to take the wheel off. Haven't figured out the landing yet. Nice video, joy to watch
I put 15w oil in and cut the spacers down 10mm. It made a huge difference. The front is more predictable while cornering. It’s not like riding a pogo stick anymore.
How uncanny! When you pumped the fork to get the oil out it sounded just like the noises an X used to make when she was lap diving! Thanks for bringing back the memories and nice video!
I got myself a Hyperpro street box. Installation of the rear shock was quite easy. I intended to have the front forks done by a professional, but after seeing your video last night, I decided to do it myself. So I did today. No problems at all. I can't wait testing the new setup. Thanks mate !
+e bleyen glad you found informative
What's yr verdict on the hyperpro set up ?
@@sandstau www.motorcycle-talk.net/threads/suspension-upgrades-products-in-the-market.824/page-3#post-18900
please make more Videos like this.
Your videos are great.
Sören Fahrenwal
Last step: give the brake lever a few pumps to advance the calipers back into position. A first-ride would be unpleasant when it comes time to stop, otherwise.
I did it the lazy way. pumped out 200ml of oil from each leg with a 12v oil change pump . Put 200 ml 20w back in and 2 spacers from 1 inch pvc pipe at 135mm. Much better now. Might do it again to get rest of old oil out. Manual states 403ml of oil but you can add a bit if you want it stiffer.
All the videos of how to take of an MT07 tire I found were shit compared to this. Nice work! I’m Glad i finally remembered I found your vid when researching doing the front springs and that you showed how to take off the tire properly as those other vids would likely have you causing damage to the bike.
Skilled teacher. very easy to follow.
Stumbled across this since I'll be getting an MT-07 in the next month, keep up the work lads. Can see you've just started up, would love to see more. :)
+Adam Kent cheers mate. As a club we've been going for nearly a year now. The RUclips side of things and instructional videos are new. If you live in the UK once you get your MT 07 hit us up! All the details are on our website www.mt07ukowners.co.uk
Anyone in the UK that needs their mt07 done..pls send it to this guy so he can make us a video..
Thank you for the video, I will be doing this as soon as my upgrade kit arrives and your video will be very useful.
Great video, I am confident I could do this job after watching! My only request is that you would add the torque specs for some of the bolts. I'm not one of those guys that busts out the torque wrench for everything but when it comes to securing a wheel to the bike I want to be thorough.
was about to say
Thanks for the video, will be replacing the springs soon.
Perfect video that shows exactly what to do! I will be getting an FZ-07 in a few months and I'm super excited to make a bunch of mods.
Very good video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
and dew da same ting on dee udder side. luv it thx for the vid
What an excellent video showing exactly what to do . Thanks for posting 👍🏻
Thank you for this high quality how to video! Please make more awesome, visually clear and informative videos! I subbed!
Thanks 🙌🏼
Nice video man. Thanks! It should help a lot of FZ-07 owners. I just did mine a few weeks ago and couldn't really find any specific instructions for our bikes. I had to do it by the spring "instructions" and common sense. my only concern is... what about setting the correct sag? From my understanding you can't just jam stiffer springs and thicker oil in and call it a day, right? I added preload adjusters and cut the spacers to the correct size before putting everything back together...
How long you cut your spacer? And what oil you used? I believe you had watched dave’s video and im about to do the same thing, just need more guidance and seek your feedback. The stock setting causing my front tire worn out a side of right. And it just about 17k mileage and i need a new pair of tires.
Must say ... A great video with easy to understand instructions and DIY attitude///
Such an easy and awesome vid to follow, many thanks for posting this for idiots like me :)
great video, thanks! newbie, but changed out my fork oil and pre-load adjustable fork caps in less than an hour.
I was told by a very reputable shop known for suspensions and building track bikes here in the states, not to touch the front forks. After measuring the front and rear sag, the conclusion was that my fz-07 was low in the rear and to high in the front. My rear preload was set at about 5. Im 175lbs with no gear and to get the sag levels in check they had to raise the preload to the max in the rear. The front and rear suspension are equally bad on this bike. If you change the oil or springs in the front that means you will need to change the whole rear suspension as well (sring and shock). If you dont take turns on your FZ-07 and all you do is go straight then do whatever you want but if you actually like to take the bike in the twisties. Learn about suspensions, and sag before you go changing things that dont need changing.
Im not trying to knock the op of this video as its a great video.
But i do understand that it was acceptable (not for racing standards but every day use and twistys) if you put the stock rear shock to its maximum preload? Just curious as Im a ~230pound guy myself so they really are a pain in the ass for me stock, and I will likely sell the bike in a couple of years so i dont want to spend thousands on new suspensions.
Thanks for the video, Brilliant Lesson. Appreciate it.
Great video, really helped a lot, saved some money doing it on my own :)
This video is freaking great! I definitely want to take this mod on!
Great instructional vid, Many thanks Janis, Subbed and liked.
13:39 Why just not put 400 ml in each (yamaha spec)? Why complicated with some steam locomotive tool?
Bc it’s 400 ml bone dry, so unless you feel like degreasing and completely drying the inside of the forks, it’s not 400ml
great video mate, 2 questions: 1) why didn't you change the seals? 2) what springs did you use?
Is there not something you need to do to make sure that the wheel of forks are centered / balanced before you tighten up the pinch bolts? Revzilla would tighten only the top ones and then bounce the suspension back and forth in order to let it find the center, or is it enough to do what you did?
Thanks for the rundown of how to do it! Only thing that is slightly worrying is you pretty much saying "eh, fuck the torque settings, just do it with x amount of tightness" xD
Good vid, Question: How often should we change fork oil and springs on MT 07 ?
fluid changes are covered in the owners' manual, long-term maintenance suggestions will require a shop manual. Just google for the mt-07 shop manual online.
Around 3000-4000 miles
Great vid. What springs have you used? What k-tech components would you recommend for front and rear. Thanks
Great video very helpful..
1 question: front paddok stand has a pin to get into upper fork my bike is tracer 700 there is a cap in that hole can i just tear it up? Or its removable?
nice work mate
Is there any concern with alignment after doing this? Or should they both be level if the top caps sit flush?
Thank You! This is brilliant!
Thanks for the video! I will definitely be referencing this when I work on my suspension, I’ll probably save it for a winter project.
Is it necessary to replace the springs when you change the oil? Or did you do it as an upgrade?
I’m thinking if just changing out the oil since the suspension is just way to soft for me.
Excellent video my man!! Where did you get that oil syringe set up?
Really professional. Got You any skill about install ELM327 or any other OBD2 device on MT07. I need to read every parameter on my phone, by Torque app and so on. TY.
Hi MT 07, thanks for the video. I will be getting this bike in the next few week and have read much on the improvement of adjusting the front forks. I hope this is not a stupid question (I'm new to bikes) but I'm right at 180-185 Lbs (right around 85 kg that you mentioned). If I'm right on the border can you mix 15 weight and 20 weight oil to come up with approximately 17-18 weight oil to work better for my body weight? Thank you.
considering a occasional pillion what would you recommend to use for the main rider of 76kg. SP15 or SP20... Also would stock spring be fine and just an oil upgrade will make a difference...
Thank you for the video super helpful
What springs did you put into it? (amazon/ebay url?) and for oil too, I am 75kg and I am thinking of doing the same thing you guys did. Great video!
I can't recommend getting a torque wrench for your brake caliper bolts enough. These are safety critical. A torque wrench is less than £40. For peace of mind when I really need my brakes to work it's worth it.
Nice Guide thank you do you have any Static Sag ? and did you cut 10 mm on the distance pipe to get rid off the trampolin effekt this bike are well known fore ?
Great video! Any chance of making one about the rear shock change?
Once I get a bike that needs it doing I will. It's a very easy process changing the rear shock tho. If you need any help I'd be happy to help. Emails us at suspenssion@mt07ukowners.co.uk
Oops I removed the front axle without removing the pinch bolt. Did I damage anything?
What's the front mount your using called? P.s great video. Will do my forks this spring.
So I just watched a video where the guy changed his fork springs without taking the forks off. Any reason not to do that? Obviously the oil doesnt get changed but cant see why it wouldn’t work. Maybe certain forks are longer and wont compress far enough on the bike?
Thanks for sharing this video. How does the bike feels now? did you also consider a rear shock upgrade? With what you just did the bike really feels more stable and firm?
+Jorge Acevedo the bike in the video has an aftermarket rear shock. Which is what allot of the guys in the club have done. My personal bike has a stiffer rear spring fitted by K-Tech which is a development part and currently not available for the public. This set up does make a difference even if you just change the springs. You no longer get that massive dive on breaking and the bike tracks a line allot better.
Very good.
Thank you, also, what kind of spring did you you use as a replacement ?
i am really far behind on this, but if someone maaaybe sees this, when the collar (or how it is called, dont judge english isnt my main language so i dont know all the terms) goes back in the tube, does it matter on which side you put it in? or is it same as the spring (same from both sides, does not matter witch side in first)?
Great job
Quick question -- what size socket do you need for the fork cap? Thanks!!!
would you recommend putting adjusters on the top?
hello someone knows the size of the Tool to fully open the barrel the one working inside
please do a video on changing your spark plug and your mt07 please!!!!!!!!!!!
We could potentially look at doing that. It’s quite an entailed job tho as allot of the bike needs to be disassembled.
Could you do one replacing the seals!?
What is a good oil level for a rider with 80kg (lowest I could find/race tech) springs and 15W oil? I know the manual recommends 165mm but I was thinking 130? I weigh 140lbs (63.5 kg).
Instead of buying a fork syringe could i just measure 165mm down
nice video bro
what springs and oil would a chubster (110kg) who likes to go fast use
Im a 105 kg guy so this ceirtanly is ceirtanly very helpful to get that jumpy suspension under control. I just have one question if you dont mind me asking; is it a must to change the springs along with it, or can i get away with just putting a 20W oil into it while reusing the old springs?
If you weigh 105kg you definitely want to swap the springs mate otherwise it’s a pointless exercise
MT 07 UK Owners Club Allright, thank you for the reply, i suppose the one you linked is the one i will go for :)
Camera dude nose whistling had me thinking it was me for a good minute.
+J rock sorry we've since employed a new less breathing person 😂
Do you need additional tools to get the cartridge out of the MT-07 forks?
im a pretty heavy guy 260lbs or 118 kilos i believe. would i need to run heavier oil than that?
There's fork cartridges available if you're looking to get higher quality damping action. Ohlins and Andreani offer inserts, allowing full compression and rebound adjustment from the top caps.
Oil viscosity increase helps some, but it can sacrifice small bump and higher speed bump damping. That's where cartridges out perform any rudimentary damper-rod setup.
What size headstock pin are you using?
hi, nice vid, please what is the windshield on the red and black MT07? where can I get one?
+adigalben it's the standard motocage screen and you can't buy one unfortunately
Should you use lock-tight ?
Hey there. Nice vid but i have a problem. I've done everything in video and during pumping old oil my fork just stuck. Feels like there is vacuum in the bottom and i cant extend fork at all. Do you have any ideas how can i make vacuum disappear?
I filled with oil and hope that oil get in bottom and push air out to make vacuum disappeared. Left that over night but nothing happens.
Why did you replace the springs?
Good vid!
Suspension on stock mt07 are way too soft
I really like your front blinkers - not too small, but not as ugly as stock. Where did you get them from?
The indicators on the bike in the video are stock. We have slightly different rules in the UK compared to the US
+MT 07 UK Owners Club well they're nicer than the ones on the US bikes! Maybe I can order some from the UK 😎
Will 1 liter of fork oil be enough for both tubes?
Hi.
Normally after how much Km we should change oil? I have Ducati Scramler Icon and I want to improve. I think for Hyperpro. Any sugesstion?
Thanks
20,000km
Thanks for the videos, Can you do any brico-video?
Javier Tejeda Castro brico-video?
what kind of stand are you using on front and back. and are you using spools in the back or a different kind of lift
+Matthew Child just a standard stand on the rear without bobbins. Headstock stand o the front
how many liters did you use for a fork ?
that makes the suspension less soft? because that is the only problem i have with mine, sorry for the english!
+nick michael yes. It'll improve the front drastically
Hi these forks are from the 2017 model, or an earlier model. Yamaha stiffened the forks with the 2018 models. So, I’m thinking that maybe new springs are not that necessary. What do you think, and what about fork oil weight for a 180 lb rider on a 2018 machine? Thank you!
what front lift are you using?
Any chance you can point to the spring model you used or you recommend ? There is no info on your web site...
We recommend K-Tech products. store.ktechsuspension.com/front-fork-spring-9-5n-pair-12743.html
Thank you for replying. Do you know in ml how much oil should be in there? I dont have that measuring tool...
You first said 265mm than later you said 165 mm could you verify which one please , thank you
It's 162mm in the official manual
What about fork seals?
Hey dudes so do you have a guide or a sheet on what part stiffens the fork by XY percentage? is the 20 oil enough to be happy or do I need something like an hyperpro spring as well?
+lSairexl it all depends on what you weigh. I'd go for a spring and oil change as shown in the video. As you'll need to take the forks off the bike anyway.
MT 07 UK Owners Club makes sense :) why do the work twice.
I'm bout 85 kg
MT 07 UK Owners Club nice. the replacement springs are stock brand? thanks
lSairexl we recommend K-Tech
MT 07 UK Owners Club thanks !
What did you mean by factory tight, do you mean to say it was the wrong amount of torque (too little) or that it was as it should be? ruclips.net/video/ERweonEcuK4/видео.html
Is it possible to do this process without removing the forks?
Not if you wanna change the oil too. We recommend that you do
What springs did you put in?
Is it 165mm or 265mm, I'm slightly confused, thank you. :)
165mm
@@JanisStrelkovs Nice! Thank you.
Nice job sir,,I love the idiot that called you an idiot claiming a bleed screw ,,fools like that need to get a life.
Question,,instead of that oil tool can you just measure oil out and pour in ?
and any chance of you doing a seal replacement ?
Thanks
Did you have to replace the fork seals when you did this?+
No I didn’t as the bike had very low mileage. I wouldn’t hurt doing so at that point however.
Appreciate the reply, and great videos. I just ordered 1 kg/mm springs and 20W oil. Im 86 kg with gear. Does that seem correct to you? I am trying to alleviate the front end diving with breaking etc.
I’m not entirely sure what that equates to but I’d suggest 95nm springs.
I want to know where do you get the fork oil tool from?
Oh good question..... I’ve had it for years and it’s quite a rudimental one. Just search on eBay fork oil level tool and a few come up.
MT 07 UK Owners Club thanks and there pretty cheap to.
13:00 is what you say to a unexperienced girl
what's the password to the download page
cheers
still waiting
I don't understand why you need to do all this demounting of the front wheel.brake calipers etc? Surely all you need to do, once the bike is on back and front stands, is remove the spring caps, pull out the springs etc ?????
Yes if you want to change just the springs; but we’re doing an oil change too to a thicker oil.
But could you of used the plunge to draw the oil out?
David Jebson .... This guy is an idiot as far as this goes. Right side up forks like this have a bleeder screw near the pinch bolt. I use a frame jack under the center of my bike and rock the bike back and forth like a teeter-tawter to compress the fork oil out. Any service manual will tell you exactly how much fork oil to put in, so his penis pump is useless. Btw, bikes are stock with 5 weight. You can get 10,15,20, or 30 weight. If I were taking the forks off like he did it would be to put in emulators by RaceTec or a complete RaceTec system. This video is a waste of time.
Janis Strelkovs... that doesn't matter. There are bleed screws near the front spindle. You pour in fork oil willie-nillie when any service manual will tell you how many millilitres to use. If you're taking the forks off like you did it's for putting in emulators or full RaceTec cartridges. I'm sorry. This was a waste of a video.
FYI no there’s no “bleed” screw on the fork. The bolt at the bottom holds the compression piston in place. Take it out and have fun trying to replace it properly afterwards without it spinning. Also as an FYI the stock oil in the MT07 is 10w for 14-17 bikes and 15w for the 18; if you’re going to go around trying to make yourself look smart you should actually have some knowledge before hand. My video may not be the only way to do this job however it is the right way to do it. 🤦🏼♂️