CIO decided not to insert track individual pursuit in Olympics because skateboard is far more important!!! That is simply unfair and a most stupid decision. Unless they knew Ganna would smash anyone...
If he had been on bread and water, would he have won at least a couple of olymp golds more ( and not only the team pursuit at Tokio ), 2 or 3 individual world titles and another couple of Tours de France, as the Great Britain's feeded lads have been doing since 2008 till today... But Ganna is from Italy, a country where doping rules are stringent and controls are made seriously and not for fake as in majority of countries, that's why we take no lesson from anybody !!🤫
Because it's not a good spectator sport. think about how unpopular road cycling is compared to the mainstream sports. and then erase all the terrain changes which make for exciting races and the scenery. you have two people ride in circles in steady pace. i'm not trashing the sport, it's just not made for mainstream. on the contrary bobsled is somehow somehwat popular, which is just wild to me.
the praying mantis position. another great position banned by the UCi..... this new version is the modern way of getting around the ridiculous UCi rules
It's just because you don't where the rainbow jersey when competing in the world championship event to decide the next winner. It's like purgatory until a new champion is decided
@@zackwilson1124 focus...the comment was about the mustache. But if you’d like to count a Olympic medals or world champ medals we can go that route but I doubt you’d stack up. LOL
@@LS1conehead I don't know if Ganna could be faster or slower than Ashton in Mexico, Aguacalientes. As Ganna is only 25, I don't think he's interested in the record. I point out that at 2000 meters the air's thin and the speed higher than at sea level. Mexico City '68 docet. Nothing else...
@@ciapaci OF COURSE it is, otherwise everyone and their great grand aunties would not go THERE to set every record in the books. I just point out that Ganna has to EARN that ultimate (and not just 'sea level') record, and actually DO it, as we cannot assume that he instantly has it by conditions extrapolation. ;)
Ok so how is it possible to do this? How did 8 riders go so much under boardmans world record pace? How is it possible for them to drop so much time.Even the Portugeuse rider rode 4min 8 sec that is insanely fast this only got 8th place.
You mean 20 years ago? Progression of Training/Aero - The cda is much lower than before. Training is better. Power is probably in the region of 550-580 which means a cda of 0.18 would give a speed of 60kmh. Boardman was probably a similar power(530-550?), but less aero, and maybe less trained for higher anaerobic. I'm just guessing.
@@Tuney888 It's more aero, bigger gears (and the training to be able to use them) and more power in Ganna's case (600+ Watts). Even the 2016 omnium riders were faster than dedicated pursuiters from 20 years ago.
@giuseppe mostini Well... it's up to you if you think it's something like that, I think it's pretty clear that 20 years of better training, better tech and better picking of a talent pool would do the trick... #Science!
@@ilanpi Thanks Ilan, I assumed so... the science seems pretty clear... it's interesting how some of the older positions like the superman are only just better than modern positions and bikes.
john pontes absolutely an ignorant question. Records have been tumbling in most sports the last 20 years, and a lot of it is down to huge advancements in technology, with cycling particularly benefiting from it. Just look at Boardman’s “aero” helmet and Obree’s homemade bike....the drag coefficient today is hugely improved saving a sh!tload of watts. Factor into that the fact that Boardman never saw the inside of a windtunnel, and Obree had to finance himself.......
@@Altimis Just that Gannas proportions (long legs mostly) give him powerful leverage on the pedals. There’s a point of diminishing returns but longer legs afford you some mechanical advantage over shorter.
Winner looks like the race hasn't even started; guy does not look gassed at all. Meanwhile, mustache boy is gasping for breath. Not normal. Even the commentators remarked in a slightly disappointed tone how fresh the guy looked. Doping has ruined cycling.
you should know that Italy is one of the countries where there are the strictest rules for doping. What you say reminded me of when Armstrong beat Pantani in the Col Ventoux stage. I thought there is something wrong here. He was almost out of breath. The difference let me tell you is that armstrong was a mediocre runner who turned into an alien. Ganna is a champion. The other difference is that Armstrong humiliated a certain Pantani ... Lambie who the fuck is he?
@@danitors well, a former world record holder, an insanely nice and approachable guy, a huge fan of gravel events and riding in general, an avid woodworker and consumer of piedmontese beef products, someone who's down for adventure and pushing boundaries. Oh and he likes his bunnies too.
@@chriswitek9455 and I add, vice world champion! mine was not an intervention to offend him, in fact I respect him a lot, but it was to compare with the armstrong - pantani situation;)
@@TheSportsman1977 I remember when in the early '70s, we thought that a 4:45 world record was BLAZINGLY quick. I guess when one considers the 51x15 gears they were riding, NO AERO WHATSOEVER (radial front spoking was about it, flat wheel rims, and a track jersey tucked into WOOL shorts, leather hairnet helmet LOL), less specific training with NO weight work at all, and primitive nutrition, it WAS 'blazingly fast'. ;)
Anyone here after he won a semi mountain stage from a break in the Giro?
I reckon he's got a giro GC in him... if he's interested that is.
That mustache adds drag
No sh*t sherlock
🤣🤣
So proud of Italia and it’s hero Filippo Ganna!🇱🇻❤️🇮🇹🍾
Grazie.....FROM ITALY. ❤
Until 5 agosto i didn't know Ganna
Now understand why Denmark was killed by Italy.
Ganna sei un fenomeno vivente !
Forza Italia ...The Pantani's spirit was with you
@@boomdibam9823 Well, he rides for Ineos...
The American was dying at the end. On the contrary the Italian looked fresh as a lettuce
Lettuce!!! Yuck !!!😀😀😀😀🍺
Fantastico!!!!
Grande Ganna !!!! Grande Italia 🇮🇹
Most spectacular sport in the world.
CIO decided not to insert track individual pursuit in Olympics because skateboard is far more important!!! That is simply unfair and a most stupid decision. Unless they knew Ganna would smash anyone...
Filippo👏👏👏👏🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Respect! и Уважуха!
Grande Pippo!
Bravo Filippo
Semplice , Ganna è un MOSTRO...... Lambie. Is a HONEST MAN.
Forza ITALIA 💪👍
that mustache can’t be aerodynamic
we need a wind tunnel test...
It’s not that bad usually. For Victor Campenaerts, the mustache actually tested faster (within inaccuracy however).
Just on bread and water. Amazing
T'was the Campy Ghibli wheels, and some fizzy mineral water.
Just lots of espresso
Rich Piana was more natural than him 🤣
If he had been on bread and water, would he have won at least a couple of olymp golds more ( and not only the team pursuit at Tokio ), 2 or 3 individual world titles and another couple of Tours de France, as the Great Britain's feeded lads have been doing since 2008 till today... But Ganna is from Italy, a country where doping rules are stringent and controls are made seriously and not for fake as in majority of countries, that's why we take no lesson from anybody !!🤫
why is there such little coverage of this event
Because it's not a good spectator sport. think about how unpopular road cycling is compared to the mainstream sports. and then erase all the terrain changes which make for exciting races and the scenery. you have two people ride in circles in steady pace. i'm not trashing the sport, it's just not made for mainstream.
on the contrary bobsled is somehow somehwat popular, which is just wild to me.
insane speed
Ashton Lambie first man under 4mins though. Mega impressive, power ‘tache
Ktomu není co říct ! Kde asi skončí stálé zrychlování ?
7:43!!!
can tell that Ashton emptied himself of every ounce of energy on that ride!!
f1 needs banked turns like This
You mean like they had at Indianapolis Motor Speedway?..
F1 still has ptbs from banked turns
Who's on commentary with Boardman?
그는..괴물 그자체다
Lambie winning in 2021 must really piss of everyone who hates his filthy mustache haha
8:00
Really ? In 4k's run ganna took it only in 4 mins ?
riding position is like floyed landis in 2006
the praying mantis position. another great position banned by the UCi..... this new version is the modern way of getting around the ridiculous UCi rules
How many watts would they be pulling between 600-700 I'm guessing ?
4 min straight
Start approx. 1200W
Ganna can hold 500ish in a road TT. So yeah, would imagine him holding over 600 for this. Big guy though
@@gregg1571 Hi Gregg
That is a lot of grunt
I guess it's back to the Red Hooks for Lambie
If there ever is one...
Why ganna didn't use the rainbow jersey? He was the defending champion
It's just because you don't where the rainbow jersey when competing in the world championship event to decide the next winner. It's like purgatory until a new champion is decided
Why does anyone think a mustache is a good thing
Or why does the world put yanks on a pedestal when they really aren’t that good at anything when it comes to competing on a world stage.
@@zackwilson1124 focus...the comment was about the mustache. But if you’d like to count a Olympic medals or world champ medals we can go that route but I doubt you’d stack up. LOL
@@zackwilson1124 this aged poorly lol considering Gana didn't didn't make it to the finals this year and Lambie won gold.
Yesterday 4 km. 3.59 Ashton Lambie 😳😅
Aguascalientes velodrome in Mexico, sits at 1,887 m. sea level
@@ciapaci OK, so let Ganna be brave, go there, and smash Ashton's record, or are you just going to hand it to him without actually doing the ride??
@@LS1conehead I don't know if Ganna could be faster or slower than Ashton in Mexico, Aguacalientes. As Ganna is only 25, I don't think he's interested in the record. I point out that at 2000 meters the air's thin and the speed higher than at sea level. Mexico City '68 docet. Nothing else...
@@ciapaci OF COURSE it is, otherwise everyone and their great grand aunties would not go THERE to set every record in the books.
I just point out that Ganna has to EARN that ultimate (and not just 'sea level') record, and actually DO it, as we cannot assume that he instantly has it by conditions extrapolation. ;)
Ok so how is it possible to do this? How did 8 riders go so much under boardmans world record pace? How is it possible for them to drop so much time.Even the Portugeuse rider rode 4min 8 sec that is insanely fast this only got 8th place.
You mean 20 years ago? Progression of Training/Aero - The cda is much lower than before. Training is better. Power is probably in the region of 550-580 which means a cda of 0.18 would give a speed of 60kmh. Boardman was probably a similar power(530-550?), but less aero, and maybe less trained for higher anaerobic. I'm just guessing.
@@Tuney888 It's more aero, bigger gears (and the training to be able to use them) and more power in Ganna's case (600+ Watts). Even the 2016 omnium riders were faster than dedicated pursuiters from 20 years ago.
@giuseppe mostini Well... it's up to you if you think it's something like that, I think it's pretty clear that 20 years of better training, better tech and better picking of a talent pool would do the trick... #Science!
@@ilanpi Thanks Ilan, I assumed so... the science seems pretty clear... it's interesting how some of the older positions like the superman are only just better than modern positions and bikes.
john pontes absolutely an ignorant question. Records have been tumbling in most sports the last 20 years, and a lot of it is down to huge advancements in technology, with cycling particularly benefiting from it. Just look at Boardman’s “aero” helmet and Obree’s homemade bike....the drag coefficient today is hugely improved saving a sh!tload of watts. Factor into that the fact that Boardman never saw the inside of a windtunnel, and Obree had to finance himself.......
That mustache is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen
Have you seen your selfies? or ID photo on your passport?
USA lost because of his ridiculous mustache..
and Ganna's playing with a 8" lever advantage on the pedals
I mean that is the worst mustache ive seen in a long while, but lets be real, he was never gonna beat Ganna, with or without that stache.
Yeah. The wind drag lost him the race. 😂😂😂
@@heyeric7322 What is 8" lever advantage you mentioned? care to explain please?
@@Altimis Just that Gannas proportions (long legs mostly) give him powerful leverage on the pedals. There’s a point of diminishing returns but longer legs afford you some mechanical advantage over shorter.
For some reason Lambie looks like a woman that tries to participate in the man's league by putting on a fake moustache.
Winner looks like the race hasn't even started; guy does not look gassed at all. Meanwhile, mustache boy is gasping for breath. Not normal. Even the commentators remarked in a slightly disappointed tone how fresh the guy looked. Doping has ruined cycling.
*Karen*
Ganna is more doped than Armstrong
you should know that Italy is one of the countries where there are the strictest rules for doping. What you say reminded me of when Armstrong beat Pantani in the Col Ventoux stage. I thought there is something wrong here. He was almost out of breath. The difference let me tell you is that armstrong was a mediocre runner who turned into an alien. Ganna is a champion. The other difference is that Armstrong humiliated a certain Pantani ... Lambie who the fuck is he?
@@danitors well, a former world record holder, an insanely nice and approachable guy, a huge fan of gravel events and riding in general, an avid woodworker and consumer of piedmontese beef products, someone who's down for adventure and pushing boundaries. Oh and he likes his bunnies too.
@@chriswitek9455 and I add, vice world champion! mine was not an intervention to offend him, in fact I respect him a lot, but it was to compare with the armstrong - pantani situation;)
I used to race, these pursuit riding positions are disgusting
why are they disgusting? i raced in the early 1970s. times change
CLARISSA FARMER What a silly comment..
doesnt matter.... damn quick though
@@TheSportsman1977 I remember when in the early '70s, we thought that a 4:45 world record was BLAZINGLY quick.
I guess when one considers the 51x15 gears they were riding, NO AERO WHATSOEVER (radial front spoking was about it, flat wheel rims, and a track jersey tucked into WOOL shorts, leather hairnet helmet LOL), less specific training with NO weight work at all, and primitive nutrition, it WAS 'blazingly fast'. ;)