Destiny vs. Warframe - $500 Million in Free Marketing - Extra Credits

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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory 6 лет назад +2506

    I just heard about all the layoffs at Activision. To anyone who was caught up in that, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry that our industry leaves so many of us having to look for a new job every few years. The whole team here is wishing you well. We hope you find new gigs soon.
    -James Portnow

    • @sabisvids6603
      @sabisvids6603 6 лет назад +3

      Aye

    • @arnaud7008
      @arnaud7008 6 лет назад

      @@madadaalostudio4190 You're gonna get a lot of hate, you know that?

    • @madadaalostudio4190
      @madadaalostudio4190 6 лет назад

      J'ai pas mieux comme nom every successful person or when you on the succeed way you will have hate no matter what!!

    • @xxgoodboy1499
      @xxgoodboy1499 6 лет назад +2

      I FUCKING LOVE YOU! Wargrame is my favourite game and you are now my favourite chanell❤

    • @BaroqueAndMSTie3000
      @BaroqueAndMSTie3000 6 лет назад +31

      UN-ION-IZE

  • @endergeneral503
    @endergeneral503 5 лет назад +3161

    Destiny: *breathes*
    Warframe: WHY ARE THOSE FOOLS STILL BREATHING MY AIR

    • @Haseeb____417
      @Haseeb____417 5 лет назад +110

      Vay hek XD

    • @Ash_C-zz4nu
      @Ash_C-zz4nu 5 лет назад +246

      THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!

    • @FerozFenix
      @FerozFenix 5 лет назад +1

      Ender General something from warframe from a boss reminds me lol

    • @Hamiltonium
      @Hamiltonium 5 лет назад +3

      destiny is way fucking better than destiny 2 and warframe

    • @erzaine6545
      @erzaine6545 5 лет назад +14

      Oh [Hek]

  • @nothinhere2see
    @nothinhere2see 5 лет назад +1485

    Only warframe players will understand how Konzu gets his early lunch

    • @samuelgarcia3989
      @samuelgarcia3989 5 лет назад +103

      ItsMike well cause we pay him in red and he pays us in silver

    • @GanyuSimpingDegenerate
      @GanyuSimpingDegenerate 5 лет назад +44

      @Tammoy Sharpe colour me disappointed

    • @Botassiumm
      @Botassiumm 5 лет назад +32

      @Tammoy Sharpe no u

    • @andres6v893
      @andres6v893 5 лет назад +35

      ItsMike Yes, his lunch are the kubrows we give the lotus to “take care of”

    • @frescopino7866
      @frescopino7866 5 лет назад +27

      An infested boiler landed in Cetus.
      E A R L Y L U N C H

  • @magnoliaeclair7822
    @magnoliaeclair7822 5 лет назад +775

    Funny thing how both warframe and destiny comunity kinda laugh togther toward Anthem.

    • @santiagoruiz4980
      @santiagoruiz4980 4 года назад +28

      I bought anthem in the releaw date, 70 euros the worst decisión of all my life i littersly have 2 hours in the game bruh

    • @dontsayit5537
      @dontsayit5537 4 года назад +14

      Santiago Ruiz that game had sooooo much potential

    • @tohtorisykero7663
      @tohtorisykero7663 4 года назад

      Hehe Anthem

    • @umbra1134
      @umbra1134 4 года назад +7

      The enemy of my enemy is my friend

    • @Smoothsmoothie
      @Smoothsmoothie 4 года назад +7

      And Titanfall 2 players laugh at the all

  • @ZorlockDarksoul
    @ZorlockDarksoul 6 лет назад +1282

    I think "lore-friendly winter-dad" is my new most favorite term ever.

    • @Uldihaa
      @Uldihaa 6 лет назад +5

      I'm glad I wasn't the only one that had this reaction.

    • @flyonwall81
      @flyonwall81 6 лет назад +9

      I want him to be a canonical NPC in every game from now on

    • @Yokoto12343
      @Yokoto12343 6 лет назад +2

      Now that Phrase wont work on Ballas with his Noodlearm

    • @u76bo7h
      @u76bo7h 6 лет назад

      Needs to be a t-shirt

    • @mobiuscoreindustries
      @mobiuscoreindustries 6 лет назад +4

      "Lore friendly long ass arm sentient hybrid space winter dad"

  • @iamnobody1734
    @iamnobody1734 5 лет назад +474

    Destiny: Growth and Profit
    Warframe: *Grofit*

    • @marukommk6583
      @marukommk6583 5 лет назад +30

      Thats a risky transaction.

    • @dydlus
      @dydlus 5 лет назад +29

      The Tenno score!
      *Appropriate expression!*

    • @thesatelliteslickers907
      @thesatelliteslickers907 4 года назад +7

      TO KEEP YOUR FEET UPON THE GROUND I PLACE *BURDENS* ON YOUR SHOULDERS

    • @great_based_one
      @great_based_one 4 года назад +28

      Destiny: *exists*
      Warframe: Index points up for grabs!

    • @tomzdeluxe
      @tomzdeluxe 4 года назад +1

      Proft

  • @nacht2929
    @nacht2929 5 лет назад +1291

    Anthem: *exists*
    Warframe: *licks lips*

  • @novoice9286
    @novoice9286 5 лет назад +2053

    i love how the comments are mainly fellow Tenno
    *WE ARE STRONG, WE ARE MANY, WE ALL LIFT TOGETHER*

  • @mr.cypher604
    @mr.cypher604 5 лет назад +383

    "What do you mean Ivara Prime isn't out yet!?"
    *Cut to ten months later*

    • @BreadPrime2
      @BreadPrime2 3 года назад +1

      Dude it’s 2021

    • @BreadPrime2
      @BreadPrime2 3 года назад

      Buy the Octavia prime

    • @seyamrahman1002
      @seyamrahman1002 3 года назад +1

      @@BreadPrime2 inaros prime > all other frames

    • @BreadPrime2
      @BreadPrime2 3 года назад

      We don’t talk about him

    • @BreadPrime2
      @BreadPrime2 3 года назад

      I’ve spent $80 to buy him

  • @halbgefressen9768
    @halbgefressen9768 5 лет назад +2656

    Warframe is basically the... profit-taker?

  • @Twilo101
    @Twilo101 6 лет назад +1567

    Me: *Reads or watches anything about Warframe*
    My brain: Don't you even think about--
    Me: *inhale* COLD, THE AIR AND WATER FLOWING--

    • @karoulilliehook9825
      @karoulilliehook9825 6 лет назад +318

      HARD, THE LAND WE CALL OUR HOME!

    • @ROldford
      @ROldford 6 лет назад +305

      PUSH, TO KEEP THE DARK FROM COMING

    • @BugsydorPrime
      @BugsydorPrime 6 лет назад +291

      FEEL, THE WEIGHT OF WHAT WE OWE.

    • @kerwanstar
      @kerwanstar 6 лет назад +123

      "Look at them, they come to this place when they know they are not pure."

    • @antipodes4702
      @antipodes4702 6 лет назад +238

      @@BugsydorPrime THIS, THE SONG OF SONS AND DAUGHTERS

  • @KuroganeKH
    @KuroganeKH 5 лет назад +562

    The real Warframe VS Destiny:
    Warframe:
    Look at them, they come to this place when they know they are not pure. Tenno use the keys, but they are mere trespassers. Only I, Vor, know the true power of the Void. I was cut in half, destroyed, but through its Janus Key, the Void called to me. It brought me here and here I was reborn. We cannot blame these creatures, they are being led by a false prophet, an impostor who knows not the secrets of the Void. Behold the Tenno, come to scavenge and desecrate this sacred realm. My brothers, did I not tell of this day? Did I not prophesize this moment? Now, I will stop them. Now I am changed, reborn through the energy of the Janus Key. Forever bound to the Void. Let it be known, if the Tenno want true salvation, they will lay down their arms, and wait for the baptism of my Janus key. It is time. I will teach these trespassers the redemptive power of my Janus key. They will learn its simple truth. The Tenno are lost, and they will resist. But I, Vor, will cleanse this place of their impurity.
    Destiny 2:
    Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one.
    Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defences, take this beast out, and break their grip of Freehold.
    My vote goes to warframe because Vor keeps speaking after killing him again

    • @Spike2276
      @Spike2276 5 лет назад +42

      that is probably the best summary of either game

    • @plague6566
      @plague6566 5 лет назад +12

      @@Spike2276
      *Mf i got the power of the light and void*

    • @agni_rai_
      @agni_rai_ 4 года назад +4

      you never quit do ya?

    • @JackDumbFox
      @JackDumbFox 4 года назад +8

      For generations the Dreaming City housed one of the awoken's most closely guarded secrets.
      She is known as Riven, Riven of a Thousand Voices, the last known Ahamkara.
      She has been taken, and her death is your calling.

    • @lucaswilliams2292
      @lucaswilliams2292 4 года назад +9

      Vor doesn't just keep talking after you kill him, his rant actually gets even longer. He goes on a tangent about how he cannot be destroyed.

  • @andrewfraser924
    @andrewfraser924 4 года назад +82

    Destiny and Warframe: exchange hugs
    Anthem: *bleeding out in a corner*

    • @peanutmadcow416
      @peanutmadcow416 3 года назад +6

      Seems anthems bleedout timer expired and they out of revives

  • @roxs6557
    @roxs6557 5 лет назад +475

    Clem:Clem, Clem. Grakata, Clem. Clem. Uhh Clem grakata, grakata, clem Clem Clem, grakata.
    Darvo: a man of a few words, save him already.

  • @applesauce1919
    @applesauce1919 5 лет назад +298

    Company's: warframe will fail
    A few years later
    Warframe: HA LOOK AT ME NOW

    • @truck-kun6969
      @truck-kun6969 5 лет назад

      Lol

    • @kazaha8669
      @kazaha8669 5 лет назад +9

      Warframe will live forever

    • @Haseeb____417
      @Haseeb____417 5 лет назад

      Warframe pro

    • @cookiemuffin3208
      @cookiemuffin3208 4 года назад +13

      Now wf has had 3 poorly recieved updates in a row... just look at the shitshow that was Railjack and Liche's...

    • @applesauce1919
      @applesauce1919 4 года назад

      @@cookiemuffin3208 unfortunately

  • @MrAwesomeAsian22
    @MrAwesomeAsian22 5 лет назад +1458

    So in short...
    Early lunch for konzu

  • @airi2402
    @airi2402 5 лет назад +309

    we all lift togetherrr
    **whistling and humming intensifies**

    • @andres6v893
      @andres6v893 5 лет назад +11

      Yukihira Soma **HAMMERS INTENSIFY**

    • @R0GUE_470
      @R0GUE_470 5 лет назад +3

      *choir intensifies*

    • @thomaslockhorn1193
      @thomaslockhorn1193 5 лет назад +3

      Aaaaand the song is stuck in my head again, thanks wf community.

    • @CryBlade
      @CryBlade 5 лет назад +3

      @@thomaslockhorn1193 you are welcome

    • @roberthatton454
      @roberthatton454 5 лет назад +3

      Whenever my friends and I do manual labor we turn on we all lift together 10 hours and the jobs done in 2 minutes.

  • @pixeltreason2968
    @pixeltreason2968 5 лет назад +158

    The reason that I like warframe more is that you can get everything in the game without spending a single penny.

    • @Metal-Gear-Solid-K_M
      @Metal-Gear-Solid-K_M 5 лет назад +4

      In destiny, you only but shaders or you grind them from Triumphs , same as some emotes and stuff

    • @Anduron_Lazul
      @Anduron_Lazul 4 года назад +7

      @Pixel_Treason Except for some of the cosmetics, and the Founder stuff. Which, honestly, is basically just cosmetic.

    • @HypedHazard456
      @HypedHazard456 4 года назад

      Community made skins

    • @unknown-cq8dj
      @unknown-cq8dj 4 года назад +2

      Anduron Lazul um you can trade items for the currency use in buying the.cosmetics you only need to be good at trading ;) so dont say its not free

    • @Anduron_Lazul
      @Anduron_Lazul 4 года назад +8

      @@unknown-cq8dj I'll just assume you're trying to make a last-minute April Fool's joke, because I'm sure nobody's stupid enough to forget about all the awesome TennoGen items that cost actual currency.
      Decent joke, had a chuckle. 7/10.

  • @kanuakinya7588
    @kanuakinya7588 6 лет назад +688

    I swear ivara prime is going to be easier to farm then normal ivara.

    • @pyrojinn
      @pyrojinn 6 лет назад +53

      Kanu Akinya I can attest to that, but she feels more rewarding than fucking Equinox.

    • @l3varnu
      @l3varnu 6 лет назад +39

      Vauban prime, Ash prime and Mesa prime are easier to farm then their regular versions, so yeah probably

    • @ChillyMan5
      @ChillyMan5 6 лет назад +54

      Nah, Ivara Prime parts will only be in relics gotten from sortie level spy missions, at the same rate you get the normal Ivara parts from normal spy missions :P

    • @bmobmo6438
      @bmobmo6438 6 лет назад +8

      I got her without even really trying. Equinox has been much more of a pain for me.

    • @Rehteal
      @Rehteal 6 лет назад +6

      @@pyrojinn At least you'll gain a sense of pride and accomplishment. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • @magic_cfw
    @magic_cfw 6 лет назад +385

    Did I hear... LUNCH!?
    (Early Lunch for Konzu... he he...)

  • @grimAuxillatrix
    @grimAuxillatrix 5 лет назад +102

    When you play games other than warframe
    Space mom: W A K E U P T E N N O

  • @silverlyder
    @silverlyder 6 лет назад +491

    A wild anthem has apeard. Warframe: i hope we can eat him to

    • @experiencemaster1743
      @experiencemaster1743 5 лет назад +5

      at anthem's current rate, most likely, some friends were talking about how much the game let them down when it released

    • @AleejamdrOp
      @AleejamdrOp 5 лет назад +44

      March 10, they did

    • @geoanton531
      @geoanton531 5 лет назад +37

      Warframe's already in the digestion process by now

    • @ahamburgerwithextrafries2283
      @ahamburgerwithextrafries2283 5 лет назад +13

      @@geoanton531 So thats why the new warframe has that flying ability.

    • @nicholasharvey4393
      @nicholasharvey4393 5 лет назад +9

      A Hamburger with extra fries
      I mean, Archwing's been around for a while now.

  • @hyperion_015
    @hyperion_015 4 года назад +151

    destiny and warframe: *shakes hands while looking at anthem*

    • @gary1471
      @gary1471 4 года назад +1

      I will spread the message so the rift between competitors will heal anthem is big gey

  • @CptJack-ws8nz
    @CptJack-ws8nz 5 лет назад +136

    5:22 Early lunch for Konzu

  • @NoobkinWolfy
    @NoobkinWolfy 6 лет назад +656

    Another game that had a similar problem? Battleborn. Did so many things differently (and arguably BETTER) than Overwatch, but its marketing didn't do enough to set itself apart, and it flopped. A real shame tbh, as it was really good at its core concept.

    • @Psycorde
      @Psycorde 6 лет назад +38

      It didn't deserve to die, for sure. Gearbox/2k botched that one completely, such a shame.

    • @adamkaris
      @adamkaris 6 лет назад +50

      ABSOLUTELY! So many were even comparing the two and stating that overwatch was better, despite the games only sharing 1.) ya shoot stuff 2.) you choose characters

    • @tuead112
      @tuead112 6 лет назад +32

      Battleborn is probably one of the best games I've played and it's a shame to see how the game was treated and marketed to complete garbage.

    • @favioferreira8921
      @favioferreira8921 6 лет назад +1

      NoobMister If Battleborn was released today, so you think it would’ve done better?

    • @amampathak
      @amampathak 6 лет назад

      Idk overwatch is tons more fun and it had personality, which made gamers relate to the heroes, you're not considering that

  • @littlestlillies
    @littlestlillies 6 лет назад +311

    I love the The Enigma of Amigara Fault reference. A beautiful touch

    • @Rick586
      @Rick586 6 лет назад +30

      This genre was meant for me!

    • @ombreloup8368
      @ombreloup8368 6 лет назад +17

      Still leaves me feeling unsettled.

    • @lordreku
      @lordreku 6 лет назад +12

      That's okay. I didn't want to sleep tonight anyway.

    • @Liquessen
      @Liquessen 6 лет назад +3

      @@ombreloup8368
      me too T_T

    • @soulishere3869
      @soulishere3869 6 лет назад +3

      Okay making sure I wasn't the only one that noticed this shit

  • @Lehmmi
    @Lehmmi 4 года назад +39

    "The game needs an emotional value"
    Cayde: (0_0)

    • @IvyDoesShenanigans
      @IvyDoesShenanigans 4 года назад

      Just... why is this everywhere? XD the reminders chase me!

  • @craigzx
    @craigzx 6 лет назад +410

    I've played both and at some point burned out in both. But I always end up going back to Warframe.
    Side note: DE has said that they will be reworking the experience for new players.

    • @Thekilleroftanks
      @Thekilleroftanks 6 лет назад +2

      Saying and doing is another thing.
      From what i get the devs of warframe dont like sticking to something for long. Add in the fact the whole system would need to be redesign and the beginning reworked (like i tried playing it but the second i had to pull a fucking wiki out i was done) which can take months if not years.
      Something their attention span cant handle.

    • @flightlesscoffeebirdboy9655
      @flightlesscoffeebirdboy9655 6 лет назад +3

      That coming this spring I guess.

    • @adamdobry5517
      @adamdobry5517 6 лет назад +24

      I dont know what people fuss about, i had no issues starting to play the game

    • @captaingeneraltrajann509
      @captaingeneraltrajann509 6 лет назад +16

      @@adamdobry5517 The issues lie with Introducing the player to all of the different systems. For example they ought to have a very robust mod tutorial given that the modding system is one of the best in any game. They also should get some of wiki writers and build in a wiki esque system into the preexisting Codex framework. Plat prices on frames/weapons in the arsenal should be removed and the blueprint is what should come up first when you click on the weapon or frame.

    • @MrKalidascopeEyes
      @MrKalidascopeEyes 6 лет назад +3

      i have had a solo clan since alpha all my upgrades and unlocks still upgraded and unlocked

  • @kriegofficergary6921
    @kriegofficergary6921 5 лет назад +722

    WTS Ivara prime set 300p only serious people please

    • @Kazuhira2249
      @Kazuhira2249 5 лет назад +40

      *fomorian gets released again*
      WTS IMPERATOR VANDAL RECEIVER 500P
      ez mony

    • @CartyCantDance
      @CartyCantDance 5 лет назад +10

      WTT [nidus prime systems]

    • @quinn8599
      @quinn8599 5 лет назад +16

      @@CartyCantDance dont tease me with nidus prime. ;-; i know my dream will never come true but its fun to dream still

    • @ShiniOokami
      @ShiniOokami 5 лет назад +8

      @@quinn8599 Just wait long enough, Frames gets primed periodically based on when they were released.

    • @shadyroot4172
      @shadyroot4172 5 лет назад +4

      @@CartyCantDance Error [Nidus prime] wasn't found . Wts [Rubico crit ara] Maxed 1.5K :platinum: :highfive:

  • @Fidious
    @Fidious 5 лет назад +124

    Me: nah,ima exit this video nothing good to hear.
    Extra Credicts: *spaces ninjas.*
    Me:

    • @ashenone2630
      @ashenone2630 5 лет назад +18

      *yells into crowd* "Hey guys ! New player" *everyone spams F for the early game grind*

    • @Conwera
      @Conwera 5 лет назад

      Saucy Sausage f

  • @Double_D__
    @Double_D__ 6 лет назад +479

    I appreciate you guys finally do a video mentioning warframe, but you make it sound like warframe was this hapless little indie game that only got by through being Destiny but Free and Better, and that really isn't all that fair. You could have mentioned how warframe's narrative or quests were so intimately worked on or how the developers treated their player base with a baseline of respect and clear communication. Warframe benefitted from Destiny's mistakes, but it didn't rise to success exclusively because of that.

    • @g1Chikumo
      @g1Chikumo 6 лет назад +9

      I think previous episodes in the past have done this.. it's been so long I can't remember it clearly but I know they've spoken about warframe here before

    • @Rehteal
      @Rehteal 6 лет назад +72

      Let's not pretend that the game makes much sense to newer players though. I mean, dear god, there exist three different stages of Alad V at the same time. DE has a lot of cleanup to do that gets ignored over new projects.
      *Looks at own room*
      Guess I'm one to talk...

    • @Double_D__
      @Double_D__ 6 лет назад +25

      @@Rehteal Oh hell no, I agree that warframe has its problems and the new player experience is a hot mess, my point was, they talk about tone a whole bunch, but when they get to comparing Destiny to Warframe narrative, the video spends the lions share of it talking about how destiny dropped the ball, but didn't even bring up Warframe's tone, quests, etc.

    • @julianbraunbeck7632
      @julianbraunbeck7632 6 лет назад +4

      @@Rehteal three? i know the normal one and the mutalist, what's the thirdß

    • @bluebloodNicholas
      @bluebloodNicholas 6 лет назад +7

      the post mutalist infection alad v is a thing too, that makes your three salads

  • @nevarware
    @nevarware 6 лет назад +118

    Choosing to believe DE secretly sponsored this to tease Ivara Prime. Nothing would surprise me in videogame marketing anymore.

    • @Drakrylos
      @Drakrylos 5 лет назад +1

      Equinox Prime is the next one to come out, I'm afraid.
      DE confirmed it.

    • @TennoWolf
      @TennoWolf 5 лет назад +1

      Obstacles prime doesn't come until next winter or next spring.

    • @Benesato
      @Benesato 5 лет назад

      Nope. Equinox is next, which closely follows their release pattern. Ivara should be end of this year

    • @Enderplays12
      @Enderplays12 5 лет назад

      @@Drakrylos Uh, didn't equinox already release? Or did I just get a Whoosh?

  • @JaceGem
    @JaceGem 5 лет назад +74

    Might just be me but I personally thought Cayde's personality and sense of humor were a much welcomed breath of silliness in an otherwise serious story. I love the story for Destiny, and I thought they handled Cayde well. He took things seriously, most definitely, but that doesn't mean he didn't know how to have fun. Go back and watch his death and subsequent funeral scene. Made jokes right up til the moment he expired. Took everything in stride. And his friends remembered him, even vowed vengeance for him, for that reason.
    I just really like Destiny... not saying you don't have a point, cause you do, I just... really love Destiny.

    • @CryBlade
      @CryBlade 5 лет назад +14

      I brought my tenno ass right to the reef to get vengance for cayde. He was my Favorite Character

    • @aruzhel5230
      @aruzhel5230 5 лет назад +3

      You know you will be exploded when somebody says "But in Warframe..."

    • @rederen3350
      @rederen3350 4 года назад +10

      @@aruzhel5230 tbh I'd take Cayde over Ordis any day of the week

    • @BrownRicePaddy
      @BrownRicePaddy 4 года назад +8

      Aruzhel But in warframe, you build no connection to any characters other than memespeak such as ClemClem or cornyOrdis. Warframe is a great game for what it’s worth, but let’s not get out of hand now.

    • @memeprez1281
      @memeprez1281 4 года назад +1

      @@BrownRicePaddy 😂😂😂 omg this is soo true

  • @Ansible100
    @Ansible100 6 лет назад +307

    Could you talk about the Activision/Blizzard dynamic and what it means for both companies?

    • @ArtArtisian
      @ArtArtisian 6 лет назад +1

      +

    • @joeavreg2254
      @joeavreg2254 6 лет назад +9

      Pretty sure you can probably sum it up the same way as BioWare and EA. No shared vision or Unity in Purpose.

    • @magnuspeacock5857
      @magnuspeacock5857 6 лет назад

      +

    • @EjnarH
      @EjnarH 6 лет назад +11

      We're all disappointed to see Blizzard abandon the quality standards that got Warcraft Adventures and Starcraft Ghost cut, but one of the more insidious changes may actually be that they no longer letting WoW and other bigger successes be the tentpoles that hold up the projects that are less individually profitable.
      This particularly hit Heroes of the Storm: The game is literally a greatest hits of all things Blizzard, and clearly designed with immense care and love. HotS introduced fans to every Blizzard franchise out there and apparently had lots of success in pushing Blizzard's other games to them. For the old Blizzard, this would have been a success, much like Google is fine with secondary products not being profitable in their own right. Instead the game got heavily cut out of nowhere since the game wasn't individually converting well (incidentally after a lootbox-centric redesign, where players no longer had a way to purchase the skins they wanted and stopped spending).
      Personally I also thought the Warcraft movie was amazing and captured the Warcraft feel perfectly. I think old Blizzard might have powered through and seen if the sequels would make the movies successful. With Activision I think there's basically zero chance they'll try anything like that, when the first movie wasn't an outstanding commercial success.

    • @Kennywats
      @Kennywats 6 лет назад +11

      There is no Blizzard. Only Zuul.... I mean Activision.
      With the amount of downsizing going on at the two, which side of this combo do you think is getting hit the hardest? It is even worse now what Mike Morhaime is gone.

  • @Sam-ym1sq
    @Sam-ym1sq 6 лет назад +196

    1:56 don't think you can slide an amigara fault reference past me

    • @kffire12
      @kffire12 6 лет назад +19

      Th-This is my hole! It was made for me!

    • @michimatsch5862
      @michimatsch5862 6 лет назад +8

      Didn't know Junji Ito was that famous.

    • @92Roar
      @92Roar 6 лет назад +10

      I was having a good day, and now all I can think of is DDRRRRTTT

    • @BisectedBrioche
      @BisectedBrioche 6 лет назад +5

      This was my niche market! It was made for me!

    • @ninetales53
      @ninetales53 6 лет назад +4

      DDR DDR

  • @mop9507
    @mop9507 5 лет назад +127

    “Remember, dream of not who you are, but who you want to be.”
    best damn quote ever
    OK IF ANYONE TYPES A SPOILER FOR THE SECOND DREAM, OR THE WAR WITHIN I WILL END YOU

    • @Fennalope
      @Fennalope 5 лет назад +9

      ugg i saw a comment where someone basicaly said "the warframes are not (insert thing youtuber thought they were) they are (literally the spoiler your not supposed to spoil)" with no spoiler warning or anything

    • @bray4883
      @bray4883 5 лет назад +30

      Shrek dies in the second dream

    • @mathewlombardo3876
      @mathewlombardo3876 5 лет назад +37

      The lotus is actually Canadian

    • @mop9507
      @mop9507 5 лет назад +8

      Ratchet Akarui jesus christ that is against the RULES of warframe

    • @communistpoland5962
      @communistpoland5962 5 лет назад +4

      You lose ur warframe in da second dream, equip da worst warframe u got

  • @mr.s9783
    @mr.s9783 5 лет назад +68

    Proof that you don't have to nickel and dime gamers in order to sell copies or make a lot of money. A quality product sells itself.

  • @TheGameLionK72
    @TheGameLionK72 6 лет назад +219

    "or that warframe doesn't have problems. I'm looking at you, new player experience"
    Yaa I know that feeling, I mostly used friend help, wiki and trying put features piece by piece to learn the game mechanics. Atleast the warframe devs are trying and warframe has a lot of different and usually deep mechanics that every player will have their own importsnt features so it's hard to guide people at the start.

    • @CrimsonBlasphemy
      @CrimsonBlasphemy 6 лет назад +13

      I'll have to come back with my Copy-Pastes, but the lack of focus on New Player experience is something we've been screaming at DE since just shortly after "Open Beta". The fundamentals are not that hard, DE just doesn't want to do the work in tooling the "Tutorials" so they can be easily updated as systems get added or changed. The overall look at what needs to be in said tutorials *is not hard*.
      The biggest hole is an explanation of the Modding system and Enemy resistances. Outside of radical rebuild of the current damage system and formulation, the long standing advice for Weapon modding remains the same as it has for almost 4 years. "Base" damage mods first, Multishot second, Elemental (in combinations that work against enemy weaknesses). The important part of the Modding system is setting up your weapons to kill enemies quickly, and to set up your Warframe to not die. There is also no clear connection between Warframe/Weapon Ranks and Enemy Level (Mod Cap used on damage and survival mods ~= Enemy Level , as rough guide). Everything else beyond that is min-maxing and fiddling with complexities of the system.
      The second hole is an in-game Farming aid. While you can look up in the Codex where to find Redirection mods, there is no good Hand-holding way to track that. Same goes for solar system level crafting resources which are buried one level down in the Navigation UI. And don't get me started on Fish. This is fundamentally an information organization problem, and I have *never* really liked what has been done by folks DE has hired on as UI/UX leads in this area.
      After that it's about exposing other systems in a timely and appropriate manner. Not having a stable Tenno Relay at Earth on all Platforms really hurts. The tutorial on Scanning comes well after the Junction requirement to scan objects. Warframe building is 2 planets too far out. And so on.
      The vast majority of systems new players will touch are now Stable, and have been for years. DE just refuses to do the work of converting what the community has done into in-game tutorials.

    • @khurelbatbayanbat7913
      @khurelbatbayanbat7913 6 лет назад +1

      LionK72 they said that they’re tackling that massive problem and I do hope that it gets much better

    • @mobiuscoreindustries
      @mobiuscoreindustries 6 лет назад +2

      Its always a challenge to chose between complexity and accessibility. Right now, the mod system is by FAR the thing that offset the most people. But... without it the game would be rather flat, while mods allow for many serious or goofy experiments to be made with all equipment. But DE have talked recently about a cinematic quest for the game start, the reworking of the auto mod system, and better tutorials overall.

    • @mtdm8233
      @mtdm8233 6 лет назад

      It was so much easier to travel and understand the universe, and where to go before they fucked up the pc version forcing it to look like the latter consol iteration.

    • @jedimasterpickle3
      @jedimasterpickle3 6 лет назад

      Ditto. The early hours of Warframe are rough on your own. Good thing the community is (typically) happy to help and guide.

  • @gameboy-zn2xf
    @gameboy-zn2xf 4 года назад +24

    "we're gonna farm ivara prime blueprints" that aged well

  • @DualSaga184
    @DualSaga184 6 лет назад +54

    As someone who just recently tried to get into warframe, the line about it's new player experience sucking really rung true to me.

    • @dewayner5388
      @dewayner5388 6 лет назад +7

      Oh absolutely. I recommend sticking with it through the first few missions because the game is fun to experience when you get a grip on it. But that tutorial is nonexistent and you have no idea what you’ll enjoy playing before you get further in.

    • @Misa-gq1yl
      @Misa-gq1yl 6 лет назад +2

      Looking at multiple guides IS an requierment (IT IS not but IT feels like because the game kinda tosses you in a world but its much better to grind for hours than pay and wait WEEKS to get your money back(mostly) AND Getting riped off because you pay you get and thats everything but when you grind youre basicly making a Journey to get that one piece of gear or warframe (the playable characters)) Hope you read IT all because People tend to chicken out on few lines, Have a nice week Mr/Mrs reader. :)

    • @edwardnygma8533
      @edwardnygma8533 6 лет назад +5

      Look into Brozime, he's a vet that replays the NPX every year or so, and has clans open to new people and focused on helping them, I believe. Where do you play?

    • @EmanueleZanetti
      @EmanueleZanetti 6 лет назад +3

      @@edwardnygma8533 to add to your comment, he's doing a FTPlaythrough right now if OP is interested

    • @alessandrocavicchioli7557
      @alessandrocavicchioli7557 6 лет назад +4

      The Warframe community refers to the game as a "wiki game" for a reason. I advise looking up a tutorial. Alternatively, go to the sunreddit and ask (WARNING: The subreddit doesn't always mark spoilers)

  • @TapRackBang516
    @TapRackBang516 4 года назад +41

    Okay but the thing about Cayde telling the story in the bar, Cayde was supposed to be the comedic relief. Just like how ordis is comedic relief a lot of times in Warframe

    • @wackypenguin94
      @wackypenguin94 3 года назад +6

      Yeah, then they killed cayde

    • @GladiusTR
      @GladiusTR 2 года назад +4

      Yeah, but then he should had been left out of the early marketig

  • @hernanspengler1185
    @hernanspengler1185 5 лет назад +120

    For me, Warframe is always going to surpass Destiny 2. Why? Because the developers of Warframe are putting so much love into the game they are always putting more content and putting more upgrades in general. Lets be real. Tell me just ONE bad update

    • @Lucky1ceZ
      @Lucky1ceZ 5 лет назад +27

      ash rework

    • @jadedshadow7857
      @jadedshadow7857 5 лет назад +22

      Dragonalrojo Redspell more content? You mean 1 day worth of content, warframe always having content droughts.

    • @doghotline3262
      @doghotline3262 5 лет назад +9

      Wukong rework

    • @praskall
      @praskall 5 лет назад +1

      Loki prime vault , nyx rework

    • @j_cza
      @j_cza 5 лет назад +2

      @@jadedshadow7857 new space ships,space open word and two new campaigns for free

  • @MarkArandjus
    @MarkArandjus 6 лет назад +123

    Been playing Warframe since it was barely two months old and due to the nature of its success played through a segment no longer available: watching it grow.
    Levels, weapons, characters, lore, community. Saw it go from barely anything to the expansive thing it is today, it really was a wonder to behold.
    And oddly enough I got into warfame because I was getting tired of the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer, but wanted something _like_ it. And now we have Anthem, trying to get in on that Warframe market. Things have come full circle, hehe.

    • @danilooliveira6580
      @danilooliveira6580 6 лет назад +18

      funny enough, in the beginning warframe also suffered from similar problems to what they talked about Destiny. they just weren't afraid of experimenting and changing until they could find a good sweet spot. also they heard the community and did things they wanted.

    • @MarkArandjus
      @MarkArandjus 6 лет назад +6

      @@danilooliveira6580 Yeah I guess it did, but they cleverly made the story a mystery - you suffer from amnesia and are trying to remember. Thus each added quest = new memory. Content and lore added with context. It was like a TV show and the Second Dream quest was a surprisingly good payoff. But like you said they really listened to feedback and changed stuff weekly so that let you know they're working on it. When I joined they had the old mod system that was this weird skill tree, nobody used it. Then they introduced the mod cards shortly after, it was a real change and improvement.

    • @Warpchy
      @Warpchy 6 лет назад

      @@danilooliveira6580 When they scrapped that core system...

    • @blitzkeir3750
      @blitzkeir3750 6 лет назад +1

      Hah! I compared it to the ME3 multi early on too. Such a shame Andromeda’s multi was so abusive... main reason I was interested in it.

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 6 лет назад

      @@danilooliveira6580 So what they seem to be doing much more now that they're finally separating from Activision. I can't wait to see the full lifetime of both. I dread the possibility of an ending for either, as unrealistic as both outcomes seem.

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 6 лет назад +181

    A clear and analytical video on the differences that sort of puzzled me. A welcome change from the thumbnails of clickbait rage I see all over the internet.
    A most concise explanation EC team.

    • @chapsthemc5465
      @chapsthemc5465 6 лет назад +3

      one of my favorites consistently for that reason.

    • @jadekaiser7840
      @jadekaiser7840 6 лет назад +2

      Honestly, the explanation was "concise" because it really only mentioned one or two of the many factors. It's a lot more complicated than they make it out to be, and they focused exclusively on how Destiny's marketing affected Warframe without mention of how Warframe itself was starting to build a hype snowball of its own with Plains of Eidolon and such.
      Nothing wrong with that of course; the video wasn't about those other things. A full outline of the differences between the two wasn't the goal.

  • @personintrest6781
    @personintrest6781 16 дней назад +2

    The people who made warframe knew what they wanted for years they had passion and no one telling them how to make a lottery machine

  • @IonicFox2nd
    @IonicFox2nd 6 лет назад +72

    Even though it was only on screen for less than a second and drawn in a silly style, that Junji ito reference still creeped me out a bit...

    • @ruolbu
      @ruolbu 6 лет назад +8

      i was waiting for them to show destiny as a morphed version of the green game mascot, to kinda round off the reference and allude to how the game turned out weird compared to what it started as.

    • @sertaki
      @sertaki 6 лет назад +1

      Junji Ito references are inherently unsettling. I have never seen one that left me cold - because they just keep popping up where I least expect them.

  • @DarKillerM
    @DarKillerM 6 лет назад +127

    Watching Warframe grow over the years have been an emotional trip. It is an awesome game, 6k hours of Gameplay and I'm still not done. It isn't a perfect game, but the fact that DE is so involved in the development of their game and managed to create a toxicity-free (well, at least 90% free) community helps a lot. Also, Loki Master Race :3

    • @BS-np8xt
      @BS-np8xt 6 лет назад +14

      Lokime "Loki"? That's a weird way to spell Nezha.

    • @jgsource552
      @jgsource552 6 лет назад +5

      Lokime nah, ash is better.
      jk just an opinion

    • @Pandious
      @Pandious 6 лет назад

      Lmao Loki sucks idiot

    • @Ronstopable01
      @Ronstopable01 6 лет назад

      I’m glad Nezha got that rework...he needed it...lol

    • @Ronstopable01
      @Ronstopable01 6 лет назад +4

      Lokime...I like that they do care n listen to there community...it’s speaks volumes about what the game means to the community...now if they can fix that damn...CHAT MODERATOR FIASCO...we’ll all b 😄

  • @jawadrizwan117
    @jawadrizwan117 4 года назад +12

    Now Destiny is beating Warframe. Oh how the tides have turned...

    • @enkeiie
      @enkeiie 4 года назад +2

      tbh warframe dropped ball with 3 updates but they acknoledged that. Also both games have similar playerbase so no. They kinda tied but still both game still do fine

    • @shorddy1668
      @shorddy1668 4 года назад

      Piotr Maliszczak they’re not really tied

    • @zenthe4th726
      @zenthe4th726 4 года назад

      Well now that Sony will join the chat, will the turn tables?

  • @grimAuxillatrix
    @grimAuxillatrix 5 лет назад +81

    You missed something crucial: the REAL reason why warframe beat destiny
    Clem Clem grakata

    • @lamakicker69
      @lamakicker69 5 лет назад +5

      Warframe never best destiny and never will lmao, Warframe at is very peak couldn’t touch Destiny at its lowest point in terms of player count. Destiny has at least 10 times the playerbase and that’s probably being generous.

    • @phoenixwyvern355
      @phoenixwyvern355 5 лет назад +2

      @@lamakicker69 *Pulls out hek* What?

    • @roberthatton454
      @roberthatton454 5 лет назад +2

      lamakicker69 what are you on about. People dropped destiny 2 like a rock.

    • @unknown-cq8dj
      @unknown-cq8dj 4 года назад +1

      lamakicker69 I dont agree with you

    • @unknown-cq8dj
      @unknown-cq8dj 4 года назад +1

      Robert Hatton I agree with you

  • @Zapador-67
    @Zapador-67 6 лет назад +89

    And we all lift together!!! TOGETHER!!!

  • @duffinthemuffin5792
    @duffinthemuffin5792 5 лет назад +28

    And then we have anthem in the corner playing with their figet spinner

  • @khyron42prime40
    @khyron42prime40 5 лет назад +12

    Warframe's tone hooked me on it. It has such a well-unified feel and look, and the world it presents is *so strange*. Reminded me of when I was a kid and first picked up WH40k and got lost in the world it gave a glimpse of

  • @hellkaiser1366
    @hellkaiser1366 Месяц назад +4

    5 to 6 years later,this video is still accurate to this day

  • @defaulted9485
    @defaulted9485 6 лет назад +83

    1:57 Junji Ito's Amigara's Fault reference? Now the like button is calling me...

    • @yamuimofate1524
      @yamuimofate1524 5 лет назад +6

      The moment I saw that I went "no no no no no no no no"

    • @zer0dragon
      @zer0dragon 5 лет назад

      That like button it is like it was made just for me

  • @36inc
    @36inc 6 лет назад +43

    Honestly as a player of war-frame- I didnt even know Destiny was supposed to be its direct competitor.

    • @ryanweible9090
      @ryanweible9090 6 лет назад +2

      Its a little weird. but i see it. its really more about tone and lore. destiny looked like a cool setting where super-powered space heroes used traditional weapons and "space magic" to fight a massive evil alien threat. the setting and lore that looked like destiny was going to do kind of fizzled. the grimories not even being in the game, was boneheaded, and warframe, while its lore is not exactly harland ellison, gives you worldbuilding, enemies and motivations that support the setting. Now the games do not play in a particularly similar way, warframe is a 3rd person game with absurdly fast traversal tools and a fairly robust melee combat system, where destiny is first person, much more constrained in movement, and while melee is a part of the game, is really gun-centric. they finally got swords and such after a while, but given how much the lightsaber is embedded in the public consciousness for space operas, warframe balances melee with ranged combat and superpowers. heck, destiny swords still use ammunition. i get that they do a lot of damage and needed some limits...but swords require AMMO!? So they are mechanically pretty different, just as most fantasy games are going to see comparisons to the witcher and tes series, destiny was one of the biggest after the mass effect series concluded to try and take the space opera crown, so thats where i see it. anthem is going to pop up too...and hoenstly, I think anthem might actually drive warframe's numbers up even further.

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 6 лет назад +6

      As a player of both, I don't see why people try to compare the two so much.
      Well, other than the early D2 population hemorrhaging into wf, but that was a long ass time ago, and even then they all knew they were two different beasts.

    • @jreed136
      @jreed136 6 лет назад +2

      @@Zevox144 They are.
      I personally never place tps and fps in the same categories ever.
      Although, I haven't played warframe in a very long time, it might be fps now.
      Or was it always fps?
      Shit I can't remember

    • @Exo0804.
      @Exo0804. 6 лет назад +1

      It's not they are two big different style of games

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 6 лет назад

      @@jreed136 tps

  • @nazodreemur8284
    @nazodreemur8284 27 дней назад +4

    So anyone here after the mass movement of Destiny players to Warframe?

  • @texting7856
    @texting7856 Месяц назад +2

    5 years later this video still aged very well
    Props to your bro

  • @KaptenN
    @KaptenN 6 лет назад +29

    1:57 Oh god. I read that manga. This image gives me PTSD. >.

  • @cinnamontoast7670
    @cinnamontoast7670 5 лет назад +16

    Man I play d2 and warframe, and I’m really happy with what bungie is doing rn

    • @phoos4029
      @phoos4029 5 лет назад +2

      Heard the news. From a tenno to the guardians. Welcome back to the good fight brothers.

    • @381er6
      @381er6 4 года назад

      Raids..... No random groups thats sucks , warframe random vor all yay !

  • @Asmov
    @Asmov 5 лет назад +59

    Well now Anthem is doing the same they're basically saying: "look space ninja looters games are great, but ours is buggy but look over there a much better game but free"

  • @Gagneto
    @Gagneto 6 лет назад +137

    Same thing with Diablo and Path of Exile

    • @bryanschaubach334
      @bryanschaubach334 6 лет назад +47

      I've never seen such a good advertisement for PoE as "you do have phones, don't you"

    • @Fanatator
      @Fanatator 6 лет назад +2

      except PoE doesnt have timegates.

    • @Nirghaal
      @Nirghaal 6 лет назад +5

      I honestly think it would have been a better example

    • @1Heirborn
      @1Heirborn 6 лет назад +1

      Putrefy, rot, spoil and fester!

    • @Hukur_
      @Hukur_ 6 лет назад

      The funny thing is that the F2P POE is focused on different players.
      POE learning curve is horrible unlike D3.
      But the Diablo immortal PR fiasco (Activision pushing Blizzard for a new business model) caused POE to surpass its record of connected players simultaneously.
      P.S. POE is great. Try it if you like old ARPGs.

  • @ZeroR0209
    @ZeroR0209 4 года назад +23

    I love how much the tables have turned in a matter of months

    • @memeprez1281
      @memeprez1281 4 года назад

      Me too

    • @Tanzuuu404
      @Tanzuuu404 4 года назад

      Exactly, came to the comment section expecting such a comment. I must say I was right

    • @noman1122
      @noman1122 4 года назад +3

      Honestly, Destiny 2 never bled out its players as much as Waframe has been. Even in its bad states it still had twice as many active players on all platforms and the current state of Warframe plus the new war delay and Duviri Paradox being pushed back yet again is gonna bleed even more players from warframe. They just keep working on new stuff instead of properly fixing the old buggy content they released in revent two years.

    • @neilisawesome2333
      @neilisawesome2333 Год назад

      ​@@noman1122
      So how did you feel now? With new war release and the subsequent release post new war?

  • @XPilotPlayer
    @XPilotPlayer Год назад +7

    This video got recommended to me just now, all I can say is W for Warframe and L for Destiny 2

  • @Starfy100
    @Starfy100 6 лет назад +91

    Hopefully the Bungie/Activision split yields positive results

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 6 лет назад +1

      My money's on more creative flexibility on what they want to do, but at the cost of Bungie being inexperienced at self-publishing causing them to be thrown in at the deep end.

    • @iucidium1982
      @iucidium1982 6 лет назад +1

      Nahhhhhhhh. Bungie couldn't meet the content deadlines THEY set. THEY had to renegotiate twice. THEY came to Activision with Eververse.

    • @danielpencil5931
      @danielpencil5931 6 лет назад

      As a warframe player I agree heck .I was a Halo fanboy before a warframe fanboy. I want the old Bunjee back and I believe that this is a step in the right direction

    • @Alckee
      @Alckee 6 лет назад

      @@iucidium1982 ahhh yes tell HALF THE STORY.
      Lets not mention activision putting a monthly income deadline on bungie.lemme ask you.
      If YOU were forced as a dev to meet a monthly income deadline how would u reach it?
      Of course game sales are out of the picture.
      Microtransactions sell WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more then actual game sales.

    • @Alckee
      @Alckee 6 лет назад

      @@iucidium1982 also fyi Bungie wants free dlc though.
      Its been proven time after time
      Go on reddit and search up videos of early " destiny developer insight" or "destiny ride along "videos on destiny. This is a perfect example of bungie's true intentions in 2011/2012
      The talked about ALL expansions being free.
      The reason why dlc became payed was because of the main story writer leaving bungie due to activision wanting to cut content and various other things.
      Once he left. Bungie had to rehash the WHOLE story, this is proven by us seeing the prince uldren in ingame cutscenes.
      When he left activision cut up all content into dlc.
      Some fun facts:
      Taken king was originally the sequel to destiny
      Rise of iron was never as post to be a thing, it was made to delay destiny 2 a year.
      Destiny 2 was forced to come out in 2017, if a destiny hame didnt come out that year activision would take a majority of bungie's stock.
      Bungie was forced ( technicaly yes and no ) to make loot boxes be a vanity focus in d2, activision made a monthly income deadline bungie had to reach.
      The only logical choice was lootboxes.
      ( while yes i agree they were far from doing them correct and yes xp throttoling is an issue.
      www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku.com/the-messy-true-story-behind-the-making-of-destiny-1737556731/amp
      Also go read the destiny contract:
      -Point 1A release plan: the use of microtransactions in destiny franchise
      Also go read this in the contract:
      Also of page 25 of said contract : "point 20 dissagreement between parties"
      And i quote "In case of a decision deadlock about anything that needs mutual agreement, the tie breaking vote is exclusive to the current activision President/Ceo.
      (16)

  • @spiderrider3727
    @spiderrider3727 6 лет назад +25

    That was a very unexpected bit of junnji ito comics...

  • @clintsmith8656
    @clintsmith8656 5 лет назад +12

    Warframes new player experience is more of a learning cliff than a learning curve. If you are joining Warframe a sa new player, don't hesitate to ask questions in region chat. Warframe has one of the friendliest communities going, someone will certainly help you.

  • @koppunch
    @koppunch 6 лет назад +84

    Money makes companies corrupt
    Warframe>Destiny
    Path of exile>Diablo
    Evolve 2>evolve

    • @pixellord555
      @pixellord555 5 лет назад +2

      What about fortnite ?

    • @etlttc353
      @etlttc353 5 лет назад +24

      @William Ratliff h1z1, pubg, fortnite, apex< minecraft hunger games

    • @undeadinside3571
      @undeadinside3571 5 лет назад +2

      @@pixellord555 what about cancer?

    • @liFE-gt6or
      @liFE-gt6or 5 лет назад +1

      Sir.Anthony warframe>destiny?! Lol ok sure the game that has 30-100k cun current players is better than a game that has 1 million+ cun current players and costs money that says a lot

    • @undeadinside3571
      @undeadinside3571 5 лет назад +7

      @@liFE-gt6or the bungie name alone is what sold destiny mostly. If DE was more well known, they would have gained even more players. Warframe has much better quality in most cases tbh. Constant updates, new stuff, tons of customization (not crappy shaders), better movement, tons of different modes, all its missing is decent PVP. (I would also say raids, but those are coming back)

  • @JohnDoe-yu6fl
    @JohnDoe-yu6fl 6 лет назад +19

    Bungie made the best expansion for D2 when they made forsaken, it helped revive part of its player base and it was a really good campaign, I love the endgame and the grind for everything, the people who like D2 are people who enjoy grinding and working together as a fireteam. So I hope Destiny can return to its formal glory eventually.

    • @Exo0804.
      @Exo0804. 6 лет назад

      Even if destiny's storys are shit not many people play it for them all of my friend play it for the amazing end game content

    • @lalkash
      @lalkash 5 лет назад

      @@Exo0804. the history is not trash, it's just hidden in the grimoire cards

    • @Exo0804.
      @Exo0804. 5 лет назад

      @@lalkash ik I'm talking about the story you play through not the lore

    • @jwade3569
      @jwade3569 5 лет назад

      @@Exo0804. the story isn't that bad

  • @goobersmoochers1553
    @goobersmoochers1553 5 лет назад +22

    I play both Warframe and Destiny 2. I love them both. They feel different and play different while they both have different mechanics that all have the same goal. They are both cool and are both in a great place right now.

    • @toirdealbachbartoium5454
      @toirdealbachbartoium5454 4 года назад +1

      "...are both in a great place right now."
      This didn't age well.

    • @hayato-dono5934
      @hayato-dono5934 4 года назад

      @@toirdealbachbartoium5454 dunno about warframe but destiny 2 is a lot of fun now.

    • @neilisawesome2333
      @neilisawesome2333 Год назад

      ​@@hayato-dono5934
      Destiny is still fun but definitely pay to play, Warframe just release duviri paradox and the bug fixes are coming, also now there's the incarnon adapters and dax weapons which Warframe can use

  • @jephwilli1949
    @jephwilli1949 6 лет назад +43

    Cayde 6 was a bad example. Him being a comic relief never shattered the whole tone of the story/lore

    • @Exo0804.
      @Exo0804. 6 лет назад +2

      Yea he's always been a comic relief

    • @anthjmauro
      @anthjmauro 6 лет назад +5

      Yep. The problem was when the narrative team made everyone a comic relief character, and the story fell on its face as a result.

    • @mobiuscoreindustries
      @mobiuscoreindustries 6 лет назад

      Because he was not the only comic relief. He was always like they and many dark stories have a character that react to impeding doom with jokes, because it is after all a very human thing to do and it does not really hurt the experience unless it is done in a way no sane person would be able to joke around.
      But Destiny does not know where and how to place their humor to the point of having most of the cast behave like a comic relief in a situation that was polar opposite to it. And the worse is that the game expects players to take the story seriously while also having their characters forcebreak that very concept at every turn.

    • @TheRiku32191
      @TheRiku32191 5 лет назад

      @@anthjmauro thank you. If it was just cayde it would've been fine. It's why they killed him in the expansion. They wanted to hunker down on a serious tone for the series going forward.

    • @samuellambo1749
      @samuellambo1749 5 лет назад

      sure did make some parts feel awkward

  • @calebolds9609
    @calebolds9609 6 лет назад +30

    Okay but, and here me out, *Multiple games can existe within the same genre, especially since destiny and warframe's gameplay is very different (within the confines of them both being shooters)*

    • @raulchavez6419
      @raulchavez6419 6 лет назад

      True, even more that Warframe is a third person action game instead of D2 first person shooter. While WF has guns or D2 has swords the experience is quite different.

    • @poohlyash1638
      @poohlyash1638 6 лет назад +1

      Who are you talking to and what led you to believe that that wasnt the case?

    • @ConanOG
      @ConanOG 6 лет назад +2

      It's not that they can't exist but they are competitors, the players that like one game could probably also play the other. It's a good thing for consumers tho, so developers can push these games to better versions of it

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 6 лет назад +3

      @@poohlyash1638 Because everybody on the internet seem to keep arguing about which is better when it's like trying to compare the ride of a bicycle and a Lamborghini.

    • @AllenQuatermain2de
      @AllenQuatermain2de 6 лет назад +1

      they can, but its not convenient. that fact is that destiny and warframe are games that do the same thing. they might play a bit differently but not so different that it is worth playing both at the same time. they are similar enough to be direct competitors. trying to attract the same crowd that doesn't need both. their gameplay is simply to similar

  • @michaelramon2411
    @michaelramon2411 Год назад +3

    I'm a more literal example of this. A few years ago, I got a desktop and decided to try a free sci-fi shooter.
    I downloaded Destiny 2, which proceeded to crash during its opening cutscene. (My graphics card wasn't very impressive, but still.)
    Warframe didn't.
    So now I'm a permanent Warframe player. I could probably get Destiny working now (I've improved the graphics card), but all my investment and knowledge are on Warframe.

  • @KaiTenSatsuma
    @KaiTenSatsuma 6 лет назад +12

    Upside of Warframe: Look at all of these awesome Frames that offer soooo many different playstyles and things to work towards at any one time, Prime Frames, Prime and Normal weapons, Clans, events, all sorts of cool stuff always being opened up or brought back all the time.
    Downside of Warframe: They *really* need to work out a better Reputation system for newer players. I was running up against it a bit when Plains came out, but I was MR 14 so my daily Limit was 14,000 reputation, not terrible. New players get shafted though at MR1 and a 1k limit.
    Maybe start everyone off at 15K or something, I dunno.

    • @extremelydeadlyfryingpan
      @extremelydeadlyfryingpan 5 лет назад +1

      Nah you can go up in mastery quite fast. Also an MR6 doesnt really need t5 plains items for the content their doing generally.

    • @tomkasjanowicz1654
      @tomkasjanowicz1654 5 лет назад

      @@extremelydeadlyfryingpan This would be good and all if the plains weren't advertised towards new potential players "look we have open world now, you people like this shit right?"

  • @ghanighetok
    @ghanighetok 6 лет назад +14

    extra credits and warframe, two of my favorite things on RUclips. it's like you're making it easy for me to click.

  • @pleasetellmewhoiam3877
    @pleasetellmewhoiam3877 5 лет назад +14

    Destiny:60 bucks
    Warframe:FrEe?(Robbie rotten)

    • @memeprez1281
      @memeprez1281 4 года назад +3

      Oh how the tables have turned

  • @drthmonkey42
    @drthmonkey42 6 лет назад +33

    Sooooo.....I disagree vehemently with your "Cayde 6 is not a serious character" theory. Hard stop. He's funny, yes. He's also integral to the story (see ALL of Foresaken), arguably the most relatable, and superbly well acted. Also, watch some of the lore videos by MyNameisByf.

    • @katsudon1237
      @katsudon1237 6 лет назад +22

      After i read his diary i realized that he often uses jokes as a coping mechanism.

    • @HYBRIDZHQ
      @HYBRIDZHQ 6 лет назад +4

      Too bad cayde is Just a walking punchline in the actual game. If only they actually did something with the Lore in game.

    • @kliffeionmcduffy1221
      @kliffeionmcduffy1221 6 лет назад +12

      @@HYBRIDZHQ But... They do

    • @HYBRIDZHQ
      @HYBRIDZHQ 6 лет назад +5

      @@kliffeionmcduffy1221 Barely. This is why people keep referring to the lore when someone criticizes the stories.

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 6 лет назад +2

      @@HYBRIDZHQ It's that they had to wait 6 fucking years to do it. Not that they never did it. And then they killed him. I wouldn't have been as motivated if they killed Zavala, but I would rather have an angry Cayde as a partner trying to spit out jokes to veil his grief while the vanguard as a whole runs into the ground due to the loss of its head while the darkness now seems to be closing in on us. I want to see Shaxx quaking as he's reminded of Ikora in her crucible days while she goes postal damn it.

  • @headlesshunter8435
    @headlesshunter8435 6 лет назад +64

    Publishers are consistantly screwing over games and game devs, its sad. Possibly a new video Idea on the harm vs the good that publishers have inacted on AAA gaming in recent years? Sounds interesting and needed with how it's hurting games, especially games that could he amazing, but monetization stratagies and other things decided by publishers that hamper the games fun, for an example. Black ops 4. It was passable if not good but then they released their 5$ for a crappy resolution smiley face reticle that was in black ops 1.... seriously.... it makes me sad :(

    • @NyJoanzy
      @NyJoanzy 6 лет назад +1

      The main pro of publishers was... WAS that it reduced risk ok the developer should the game fail. But now as we see jobs being slashed during successful years the main pro has been widdled down to just, "more money for better graphics".

    • @mobiuscoreindustries
      @mobiuscoreindustries 6 лет назад +1

      The independent market was not viewed seriously before. Some little thing on the side and not much more. But then kickstarter appeared and one of the proposed games, star citizen, which publishers had refused to invest in like so many ambitious projects back in the day, blew out of proportion and with it the entire independent market was now qualified to not only be a way to make bigger games, but better games free of the release schedules and publisher demands for marketing. And because this market lives and dies on the quality of the game and its community, the devs can properly care and communicate with their playerbase without a big entity barking at their ear because the bananas are not coming fast enough

  • @DDdjm
    @DDdjm 5 лет назад +7

    Warframe says ninjas play free. That's an insta win. Even though most frames look like power rangers.

  • @alexhawco2970
    @alexhawco2970 6 лет назад +29

    I appreciate that Junji Ito reference at 2:00

    • @Yahriel
      @Yahriel 6 лет назад +1

      I appreciate anyone who knows where that meme originally came from

    • @Hetsu..
      @Hetsu.. 6 лет назад

      @@Yahriel it's not a meme

    • @chetawanung-adjmagool9967
      @chetawanung-adjmagool9967 6 лет назад

      @@Hetsu.. it is.
      knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-enigma-of-amigara-fault-this-is-my-hole

    • @Yahriel
      @Yahriel 6 лет назад

      @@Hetsu.. it's become a meme.

  • @shipovnik89
    @shipovnik89 2 года назад +4

    Somehow Destiny is more confusing for me than Warframe, and I started playing them at the same time
    And yeah, in Warframe they added content, but in the Destiny they removed content, unforgivable

    • @guibeck8259
      @guibeck8259 2 года назад

      There's no fucking way you think destiny is more confusing than Warframe

  • @SophiaAstatine
    @SophiaAstatine Год назад +2

    Three thousand hours in warframe... Where did all that time go and why didn't I grind more endo...

  • @salmanmuhammad8363
    @salmanmuhammad8363 6 лет назад +7

    6:31 this is the greatest frame in all of extra credits videos

  • @offigjuimce
    @offigjuimce 6 лет назад +35

    Its hurts me too that Ivara Prime isn’t a thing yet...

    • @Rehteal
      @Rehteal 6 лет назад +7

      How do you think it's felt waiting for Mesa Prime all this time? And Equinox prime... Getting very excited now...
      Oooh, the anticipation!

    • @tonberryking42
      @tonberryking42 6 лет назад +3

      Equinox Prime is all but confirmed for March. And if pattern holds, Ivara Prime is this December.

    • @edwardnygma8533
      @edwardnygma8533 6 лет назад

      Nah, Inaros Prime is what I'm looking forward to.

    • @RAID3N_2013
      @RAID3N_2013 6 лет назад

      Zoe was savage in this vid.

    • @tonberryking42
      @tonberryking42 6 лет назад +1

      June 2020. At the moment, it's Mesa, then Equinox, then Atlas, Wukong, Ivara, Titania, Nezha, Inaros.
      This is assuming pattern holds of male male female female with respect to release order of the non-Prime variants.

  • @kingskulllol5282
    @kingskulllol5282 3 года назад +6

    this video aged well

    • @rogueeBLU
      @rogueeBLU 2 года назад +1

      very very poorly theres a reason why no one is talking about wf still and how the gaming community is universally praising d2 rn 💀💀💀

    • @2212juanma
      @2212juanma Месяц назад +1

      Are_you_sure_about_that?.gif

  • @ArkOnYoutube
    @ArkOnYoutube 6 лет назад +39

    Warframe is better because destiny doesn't have we all lift togethet

    • @minkisbalinkis
      @minkisbalinkis 6 лет назад

      But does Warframe have Hope to The Future?

    • @jacobdoolittle128
      @jacobdoolittle128 6 лет назад +4

      Ok no....... destiny music is better than warframe music. You can't take this one from us.

    • @jormungandrworldserpent6437
      @jormungandrworldserpent6437 5 лет назад

      Jacob Doolittle oh gosh a destiny fanboy, the only good thing about destiny was cayde-6 and now even he’s dead so...

    • @jacobdoolittle128
      @jacobdoolittle128 5 лет назад +2

      @@jormungandrworldserpent6437 are you serious? Calling me a fanboy because of the amazing music that the game has to offer? The hell are you talking about lol.

    • @jormungandrworldserpent6437
      @jormungandrworldserpent6437 5 лет назад

      Jacob Doolittle the music isn’t amazing, but it could’ve been if they hadnt fired their best composer, who’d been apart of bungie since halo

  • @11u510n15t
    @11u510n15t 6 лет назад +75

    Blizzard please leave Activision.

    • @omppusolttu5799
      @omppusolttu5799 6 лет назад

      They just did...

    • @NBaeK01
      @NBaeK01 6 лет назад +13

      @@omppusolttu5799 no they didn't

    • @dooder39
      @dooder39 6 лет назад +14

      @@omppusolttu5799 Bungie left, Blizzard didn't.

    • @BobisOnlyBob
      @BobisOnlyBob 6 лет назад +19

      Blizzard and Activision are one entity. They literally can't be separated any more - the companies that were Blizzard and were Activision aren't joined at the hip, they're fully spliced, and a lot of old talent has left and new talent has joined that has only ever known the combined company. You cannot get back the Blizzard of the 90s.

    • @brandonhall7498
      @brandonhall7498 6 лет назад +3

      @@BobisOnlyBob That makes me truly sad. I love Blizzard games but Activision really has leeched them.

  • @Orion-jr6fi
    @Orion-jr6fi 4 года назад +17

    love how now the roles are kinda reversed, destiny is one of the biggest games in the market rn and warframe s population is steadily declining. (this is coming from someone who plays both)

  • @hakkensensai
    @hakkensensai 6 лет назад +55

    It helps that Warframe is such a good game.

    • @Halosty45
      @Halosty45 6 лет назад +4

      Well yeah, half a billion of advertising with a game that isn't great only get you as far as... Destiny.

    • @SkyRecruit18
      @SkyRecruit18 6 лет назад

      The only thing that sucks is the fucking learning curve. I'm still lost 2-3 years later

    • @schizophrenicbullfrog
      @schizophrenicbullfrog 6 лет назад

      @@Halosty45 no need for negativity

    • @jdae_1376
      @jdae_1376 6 лет назад +2

      That's where you're wrong kiddo

    • @rewt127
      @rewt127 6 лет назад +3

      Ehhhhh. I don't really know. I got dragged into Warframe for a time, but I realized it has a pretty awful gameplay loop. Of the last 100 hours or so I've put in. I've literally just ran the same mission. Cause there is no reason to do anything else. They seem to straight up refuse to add more shotguns. It's like 1 shotgun a year. And none of the new Warframe interest me. So I just log in. Level my shotguns. Forma them. Repeat.
      Destiny has different gear that all feels good to use that requires you to play all it's content to acquire. Pvp, strikes, raids, the forges, and Gambit. But you don't feel like you are getting fucked by rng. Warframe tho. Thinking for a second you might be interested in trying the new Warframe? Buckle up for a 60 hour ride to get 1 peice of content.
      After 800 hours in Warframe. Gonna be honest. I don't think it's a very good game. It just is addicting. But that doesn't equate to a good game.

  • @Slivr
    @Slivr 6 лет назад +24

    Destiny 1 was never meant to last 10 years. The destiny FRANCHISE was.

    • @PackedWolf
      @PackedWolf 6 лет назад +11

      You say that now, but at the time they tossed that catchphrase around, nobody knew what they meant.

    • @pwnorbepwned
      @pwnorbepwned 6 лет назад +2

      cannonfodder343 People wanted to assume it means a 10 year game because it sounds funnier. I was never confused about it. From the get-go, it was starkly clear to me that they said the game series had a ten year plan for it. Nowhere did they ever imply they would wait until 2024 to make Destiny 2.

    • @henryettoit897
      @henryettoit897 6 лет назад

      that was not what they sold it as. everyone back then thought it meant destiny 1 would be like WOW

    • @speararmada716
      @speararmada716 6 лет назад

      It was clearly stated that Destiny would be a 10 year plan in Year 1 just like the Halo series. Y'all can go back on the videos

    • @Rony_Weasley_
      @Rony_Weasley_ 6 лет назад

      Indeed, I left destiny since they ditched every improvement from the first game in order to make a sequel more sellable at a short period of time. But I never though that their "10 years plan" was about D1 only, I always knew it was about multiple sequels, maybe 4, maybe 5 Destiny sequels, not just a single game. People who though that are the same people criticizing and comparing Anthem to Destiny right now without looking at the big picture

  • @aidanpillera9510
    @aidanpillera9510 2 года назад +3

    Well, it’s good to know a huge steps been taken since witch queen. It’s nice to see all those improvements

    • @scraps4728
      @scraps4728 Год назад

      It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling doooown

  • @Anna_Rae
    @Anna_Rae 6 лет назад +9

    I feel like D2 is currently in a good spot with its identity. And by currently, I mean in the past few months. Forsaken was a nice and meaty expansion, and then the annual pass content feels substantive enough given the price.
    I’ve played MMOs and I just can’t do a subscription payment. It’s too much money, even if the content is great, and I get put in the mindset to get my money’s worth, rather than enjoying the game at my pace.
    Destiny 2 if they keep up the pace with a $40 large expansion like forsaken and a $35 annual pass to give content between large expansions feels like a great middle ground for me, and I hope they continue to improve that model. That’s essentially $75 a year and that’s much easier to stomach IMO

    • @sleepyostrichthing3599
      @sleepyostrichthing3599 6 лет назад +2

      Just so you know, warframe is barely an mmo and 100% free to play... subscriptions don't even exist

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 6 лет назад

      @@sleepyostrichthing3599 Why not both? INFINITE CONTENT DROUGHTS!

    • @speararmada716
      @speararmada716 6 лет назад +1

      More like p2w, you actually gotta earn your weapons in destiny while becoming proficient enough to use it in the pvp

  • @RoyalFusilier
    @RoyalFusilier 6 лет назад +15

    Careful, we're drifting closer to acknowledging that the titanic, obscene excesses of """"""""""AAA"""""""""" game publishers are not an immutable law of nature, a la 'games just cost more to make now', and instead that they're human decisions undertaken by folks working at big game companies. And thus can, and in many cases, should be changed.

  • @OneGrindyBoi
    @OneGrindyBoi 6 лет назад +1

    To be fair though, the story is confusing until the quest "Natah". After that, your soul is bond to Warframe because every quest that comes right after will suck you in like the void itself. And trust me. I am talking of experience. Also, I realized the beginning story and bleh is just there to give the system and the story a depth and the it's there for the player to learn to develop himself etc. so it's all well thought through. It has a perfect part of humor and fun but also a very, very heavy story that is gonna blow your mind and pull you with full power through the game. And you won't even get a scratch nor bother because the game experience is amazing! Just try it out, it's the mother of all f2p and really deserves its good name. Even a better if you ask me.

  • @nightfurynick998
    @nightfurynick998 4 года назад +13

    Warframe players: *belligerent and numerous* we are everywhere, and we will welcome you with open arms

    • @memeprez1281
      @memeprez1281 4 года назад

      Not in the state its in now tho

  • @SheikAndi
    @SheikAndi 6 лет назад +4

    I never really get the criticism of warframes new player experience. Everywhere I hear, that it is so overwhelming an doesn't explain shit. That is exactly why the game hooked me. A year ago I had no idea what I got myselve into and the sight of so many mechanics and systems told me I could have hours of fun trying to understand the systems and even more time to master them. You immediately see that this game can be played for years.

    • @channelness5438
      @channelness5438 6 лет назад

      In your perspective, sure, and you not wrong either, but the more common way of looking at it, is that Players tend to get overwhelmed by the shear amount of shit in front them and will typically get quit because of it. That's not to say it's bad to have that much content readily available, but typically peoples' brains tend to shut down if that receive too much information at once, and will opt towards not doing anything in response to it.
      In Short: Information Paralysis

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 6 лет назад

      To an extent, I feel the same, but I feel people have gotten quite used to hand holding and when it's suddenly taken away (even when it's what we've asked for) it could be quite jarring. It could at least do with some explaining, like at least display the tutorial screens before allowing you to interact with modules, then going on with how they have it. Or outright say you can fucking trade plat but not the free stuff.

    • @vp3841
      @vp3841 6 лет назад

      Same, I was thrilled (in a good way) with how much stuff you gotta learn in the beginning and how much there is to explore. It made me feel the same way I felt about games like Fallout2, Baldur's Gate and other old stuff where you can't wait to jump into the thick of it. I don't know what gamers these days want: a game that holds your hand and tells you "now push this button and hit the enemy on that spot" until you're MR 25? Or pats you on the head for every sneeze, like Candy Crush?

  • @MrEffectfilms
    @MrEffectfilms Год назад +2

    Whooo! This is especially true today. Warframe is still going strong but Destiny...... well let's just say there's now a worry that there may not be a Destiny anymore.
    EDIT: I can't believe this aged as well as it has. Destiny is basically on its last legs while Warframe continues to thrive and has seen a large influx of new players many of which are coming from Destiny. Destiny just announced that it's story and expansions are basically over while Warframe just launched one of its most beloved expansions to date that has produced so many possibilities going forward. We continue to get new Warframes, weapons, upgrade and customization options, we now have cross save and cross play options, Steel Path is basically a New Game+ mode, Duviri is a rogue like that cleverly ties into the main story in a cool way, and we now have Titanfall style mechs.
    Warframe just keeps getting better and Destiny keeps wallowing further.

  • @DragoonWarrior790
    @DragoonWarrior790 6 лет назад +5

    2:35 Loved the Futurama reference. 😄

  • @michaelschwiebert3636
    @michaelschwiebert3636 6 лет назад +9

    I've played both. Warframe has real-world time gated items. And yes, I know you can learn the market to make platinum to speed that up, but that's why I dropped TF2 - I'm here to play a game, not play a stock market.

  • @Darlf_Sevil
    @Darlf_Sevil Год назад +2

    People outside warframe: end game of this game is grind to be best
    Insade: i will grind to bouild my dream house and fasion my warframe so enemy have heart attack when they see how cool it look.

  • @esralierdo24
    @esralierdo24 4 года назад +6

    Bruah, look Destiny 2 right now, and also, Activision did this because of the split with bungie