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Комментарии • 92

  • @namanchawla710
    @namanchawla710 3 месяца назад +28

    Dude pulls out excel sheets and calculates things for us and still he's underrated. Not fair

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +2

      I try.. I really do but that YT algo keeps fucking with me . I just gotta keep it pushing

  • @Simone-gr8kh
    @Simone-gr8kh 3 месяца назад +14

    Not very interested in Rappa.. YET but I always appreciate a good video!!

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      And I appreciate you! 💪

  • @kirby035
    @kirby035 3 месяца назад +6

    Thanks for the information. Glad I found your channel. I have S2 Charmany, so you just saved me from buying the Herta Shop light cone.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      Its so good for Break Characters. It gives you all you want for a break unit

  • @taheemahnaf4834
    @taheemahnaf4834 3 месяца назад +2

    This guide helped me alot. I subscribed❤

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      Thank you! Im glad it helped!

  • @musawrr
    @musawrr 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow, that’s an excellent video. I should watch it first before attempting to summon Rappa.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      Thank you! She is worth it imo but shes def not needed

  • @zxero69
    @zxero69 3 месяца назад +4

    Even though i only go for e0s0 rappa your vid is great man. U earned a sub, i hope u make a fugue kit calc soon, cuz my rappa needed her

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      Yes I will make one. The first one is a kit breakdwon and analysis and then im doing the calculations after that one so stay tuned

  • @Iyoverse
    @Iyoverse 3 месяца назад +5

    I tried listening out to it. Maybe I missed it (I just heard it regarding the 4% thing LOL), but that S1 LC of hers giving that AV forward is huge to her gameplay because netting all 3 of her enhanced basic attacks within the enemies broken state isn't the easiest. I do have conflicting feelings about E1 being better, & kinda agree with you on that too, but that sig of hers is also kinda nasty when it comes to in-game practicality. The Spd only helps her initially, but that AV (especially during her Install) pushes her last attack into a lot more frequent clutch moments & jumps you back into the Install faster. If I had to add into what you were overall saying though, I'd most likely assume Rappa pullers are going all in on her and should grab both, if possible, to future proof her as much as they can. I know that's expensive though.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +4

      I agree, the S1 is her best option for a LC and I wouldnt go against getting it. I also agree that people that would get the E1 will probably also get her S1 because thats a true Rappa main lol. But yeah I generally prefer AA vs raw speed but you can get the same results with enough speed is my point. Instead of investing money into getting the S1 you can invest time and TB power to grind them relics until you can speed tune well. Diff styles of whaling. But that, imo, makes the S1 less worth it.

  • @dantehades2553
    @dantehades2553 3 месяца назад +1

    I can't wait her. Awesome video

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah Im hyped to get her aswell!

  • @blank_Lv999
    @blank_Lv999 3 месяца назад +1

    Appreciate your videos, lots of love!!

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      Aye thank you so much! Im glad my content is well received💪

  • @gyoubu07
    @gyoubu07 3 месяца назад

    Thanks dude

  • @QuietCrow009
    @QuietCrow009 3 месяца назад +1

    I think the e1 has better long term value and build flexibility than s1. The 15% def shred does seem nominal but it will stack with other def shred buffs, as well as res pen and vulnerability. Rappa also seems to also want to blow up enemies after repeated breaks, so i the dreams hold firm the AA may not be as beneficial as we think.

  • @EddieBlake215
    @EddieBlake215 3 месяца назад

    I'll do a 10-pull on Rappa. I'm at ~60 pity. If she comes home, good. If not, I have a guarantee for Aventurine, I guess!
    To be honest, if Rappa came along at any other point, I might have pulled for her and waste all my jades, I love her design and animations. But she had to come right next to Aventurine, who I need for my Feixiao team AND Acheron who I want to pull for Eidolons... then there's Fugue coming along soon...
    Maybe I'll be more invested in getting Rappa in a re-run, to add her to my character collection but right now... she's low prio...

  • @Creepjacker
    @Creepjacker 3 месяца назад +1

    Hope you put out some analysis on fugue's kit with numbers/calculations. Curious how she compares to HTB as its hard to tell without doing the math I feel like seeing as how she provides less superbreak and BE but instead gives def shred and exo toughness

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      Yes its very interesting to say the least but that is coming this week! After my initial kit analysis which comes tomorrow

  • @Tryphikik
    @Tryphikik 3 месяца назад +1

    I don't quite get the distaste for the lightcone. In my opinion if a lightcone and a eidolon are ever that close, which they are here, you should always get the one you can move off the character. Can take it and slap it on future erudition units that might benefit from break effect or even someone like HImeko or something now if the fight makes using her more useful.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      True but if you are looking for vertical investment of Rappa then youre not too concerned about other characters. Besides, people that would get her E1 are more than likely getting her S1 as well

  • @gabriell4826
    @gabriell4826 3 месяца назад

    i think is better E1 because you are near the E2 and that is OP

  • @909090438
    @909090438 3 месяца назад +1

    Broooooo!!! Need Fuga vs HMC calculations!! Kit is leaked BlessRNG

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      Its coming either tomorrow or wednesday!

  • @xuk6042
    @xuk6042 3 месяца назад +1

    S1/e2 counting down the hours 😂

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      Nice she bout to slap

    • @xuk6042
      @xuk6042 3 месяца назад +1

      @@iSUMMONYT 260 pulls..e0/S1 🤬🤬🤬

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      @@xuk6042 thats rough ngl

    • @xuk6042
      @xuk6042 3 месяца назад

      @@iSUMMONYT still got 4? Weeks to get E1 minimum 😂 can't wait for more bailus and geppys

  • @ketansingh5220
    @ketansingh5220 3 месяца назад +1

    Gonna pull her e0 S1 she's fun2play

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      She does look fun af. Im picking her up too

  • @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5
    @RerunBladeIPayForE6S5 3 месяца назад +2

    BLADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I ONLY CARE ABOUJT BLADIEEEEEE PLEASE RERUN BLADE

  • @cyberjeeb
    @cyberjeeb 3 месяца назад

    I got lucky/unlucky with a early gepard lc and I got 4 copies of charmony 40 pulls in plus the dreams montage lc (this thing is nice, speed on abundance lcs is very rare) so I'm gonna save the lc hard pity for someone else.

  • @jannabluu257
    @jannabluu257 3 месяца назад +1

    I just get E1S1 Rappa and try ER rope on her, it's kinda good I feel. Do you think it is better than break effect one?

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      For Rappa it might not be a bad idea but she gets a lot of energy at e1s1 aalready so it might not even be necessary. id have to test it out myself to see

  • @crisguerra176
    @crisguerra176 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for the video I be skipping

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      Understandable! Even more so when Sunday and Fugue Kit got revealed

  • @aliadel1475
    @aliadel1475 3 месяца назад +1

    Team I try to go for is
    Rappa
    Firefly
    MC
    Ruan Mei
    their weaknesses are opposite to each other, so if you play Firefly or Rappa in place of Lingsha, they actually complement each other’s weaknesses pretty well

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      That sounds like a strong ass team. Having IMG breakers with RM makes no sustain so easy

    • @aliadel1475
      @aliadel1475 3 месяца назад

      @@iSUMMONYT nice video

    • @EddieBlake215
      @EddieBlake215 3 месяца назад

      0 cycle MoC team right here!

    • @taheemahnaf4834
      @taheemahnaf4834 3 месяца назад

      Thats what im aiming for, i heard Firefly is in 2.7 phase 2

  • @AtomicPy1e
    @AtomicPy1e 3 месяца назад +1

    Is this still valid after her release? S1 charmony is just behind her bis LC by ~8%? (I have her on 150 base spd)

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      As far as dps output goes yes but the action advance goes a long way to increase her actions. You would need 169 speed and s5 charmony to get 3 actions in 0 cycle. If youre not too concerned with that then charmony is fine

  • @naufalsyauqifillah6388
    @naufalsyauqifillah6388 3 месяца назад +2

    I see some guide to use er rope for her especially in non imag weakness how bout that sir?

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      Its worth a try. I havent tried it because mine has a slightly low BE because of my bad relic luck so I need all the BE I can find lol

  • @Jellostyle
    @Jellostyle 3 месяца назад +1

    Going for E1 Firefly or Rappa. Hmmm. Hard decision.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      Id say FF if its between both of them. No SP consumption is OP

  • @aliadel1475
    @aliadel1475 3 месяца назад +3

    Not again E1 is worse than S1 you need 141 to take 4 Turns and is so much better Than small DPS, Please go for S1
    IF Ruan Mei in team it would be 131 so Yaa s1 make 200 Speed or DDD not needed from 190 Speed to just 131 speed so much better

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      I think youre forgetting that the E1 gives her 20 energy every time she leaves her state pretty much giving her a whole turn by using her ult more often. I understand where youre coming from and you are correct that AA is almost always better than speed but this is a video weighting the dmg diff between them. She can 0 cycle with Eternal Calc already.

    • @aliadel1475
      @aliadel1475 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@iSUMMONYT Yeah, I did, but it doesn't help her get that first ultimate. After her first ult, the most important part of her kit is her ult and basic. Let’s say she gets her ult on the second turn - that’s one turn too late.
      Her ult gives her an extra turn, but it's not an advancement like Firefly's. Her playstyle is all about getting her ult, waiting for her turn, and then using it. This helps her avoid missing the window of opportunity. Needing less speed may seem like it indirectly increases damage at face value, but based on DPS or, in this case, DP-turns, needing less speed actually leads to more Damage Pure Turn.
      LC makes attack boosts a reality, adding more sub-states for attack and break. You say having energy after her ult is more important, but I see her Light Cone as more crucial cause of Speed.
      I just hate Speed I can not Role it to save my Life.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      @@aliadel1475 I guess this has to be a direct test to be done when she drops because to me she wouldnt need all those extra turns if she wipes the field on a Skill > ULT> EBA > EBA with just the 2 actions. The susequent actions will have the ULT ready as needed due to the energy. What you say also makes a lot of sense so I just need to test it when she drops

    • @aliadel1475
      @aliadel1475 3 месяца назад

      ​@@iSUMMONYT Okay Nice video. Good luck with your wishes.

  • @Onlyjomo
    @Onlyjomo 3 месяца назад +3

    My guy just said you can make up action advance with speed….. sooo relatable lol

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      Speed tuning should be relatable

  • @kaseyatakahashi9753
    @kaseyatakahashi9753 3 месяца назад +2

    Mihoyo favors ff too much. Ff is getting a monoish premium team in 2.7 when fugue comes. Absolute brute force mono team for every content.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      This is so true. The FF glaze is wild

    • @OMG_YGO
      @OMG_YGO 3 месяца назад

      Ff is the only char that had a planar set made for her

  • @arandomperson589
    @arandomperson589 3 месяца назад +1

    Bro can u hrlp me whether e0s1 is better or fugue is better i cnat have bothv😢

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      I always advocate for a new character over an eidolon. So Fugue 100%

  • @Owelzilla
    @Owelzilla 3 месяца назад +5

    E1 was never the same value as S1 since it’s more expensive anyways. Just so happens that it’s not even close this time.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      Well im assuming that people that will get 1 or the other will pull until they get it. Youre right S1 is always cheaper but in terms of value for the character, E1 is just better this time around

  • @Cadmun
    @Cadmun 3 месяца назад +4

    Skippa for now. She’s got the cool factor, so might snipe her on her rerun.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      I just want her cause Fugue + Rappa bout to go crazy

    • @Cadmun
      @Cadmun 3 месяца назад

      @@iSUMMONYT must be nice being a billionaire 😤

  • @SilverSaber012
    @SilverSaber012 3 месяца назад +2

    EZ Skip ngl, firefly still is best girl superbreak engine

  • @dreamsandhopes6802
    @dreamsandhopes6802 3 месяца назад

    Well i got her lc at 26 pity+I want fugue so ...

  • @SpookeezScareez
    @SpookeezScareez 3 месяца назад

    yo bro i wanna jst ask r u alr? ur eye looks red

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      I had a small rock go in my eye while I was exercising and it did a bit of dmg. Its ok now! Thanks for asking!🙏

    • @SpookeezScareez
      @SpookeezScareez 3 месяца назад +1

      @ Glad your fine man, great content! :)

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  2 месяца назад

      @@SpookeezScareez Thank you for looking out!

  • @GabeIG
    @GabeIG 3 месяца назад +1

    the one that provides the most value is skippa great value!!!

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      lol its pretty much free value lol

  • @Jett125
    @Jett125 3 месяца назад +1

    How is the battle pass cone?

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      Not good on her since she doesnt really use dmg bonus at all :/

    • @Jett125
      @Jett125 3 месяца назад

      @@iSUMMONYT okay. Shame. Thanks for the answer. Good to know.

  • @enseaay4215
    @enseaay4215 3 месяца назад

    Answer: 10:23

  • @Thekisamesamehada
    @Thekisamesamehada 3 месяца назад +1

    How much spd do u need to match the LC ?

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      With 1 DDD you need 169 speed

    • @ijemgenshinimpact
      @ijemgenshinimpact 3 месяца назад +1

      @@iSUMMONYT what is the meaning of DDD?

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      @ijemgenshinimpact the 4 star LC Dance Dance Dance

  • @z9ao7v
    @z9ao7v 3 месяца назад +1

    Dang bro, have to tell your boyfriend to aim better and not in your eye next time!

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад +1

      oh look a gay joke! Wouldve never expected that one

    • @jaydifeo
      @jaydifeo 3 месяца назад +1

      @@iSUMMONYT happens to the best of us. besides, we all kno boothill is trigger happy 🫣

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  3 месяца назад

      @@jaydifeo m6 boy BH be sprayin and prayin 🤣