I'm really not a fan of glass and epoxy. hate working with the stuff. Not saying I will never use it. It's obviously effective. I would be more inclined to tape the chines if anything. Part of the experiment with this skiff is to demonstrate the utility and practicality of plain old wood without hi tech materials. A protective strip on the skeg is a good idea.
My great grandparents built a houseboat from metal drums and wood to float and swim on the KY river. I applaud your efforts to do something similar on a smaller scale.
Splendid video! Love your approach and your spirit of experimentation and adventure. Proudly flying one of your pennants! Keep up the great content. Thanks you!
I learnt to sail on a Mirror dinghy and every year or so me and my sister would paint it with old oil based paint. In the past years i have built/restore the odd boat with International boat paint and i dont think its much more durable. I'd put a piece of copper on your skeg and maybe your chines to give a degree of protection and have used a piece of flattered copper pipe.
Blasphemy! You must use 2 part epoxy high build low drag ultimate space shuttle bottom paint or your boat will immediately sink! Seriously though, a brass rubbing strip on your keel would be a really good idea. You could also use aluminum which you can get at Home Depot.
Talking house paint brings to mind that somewhere in some boat book on the shelf across this room, the author talks about doing a kind of ersatz fiberglassing with house paint and sheer window curtain material.
Yes, it covers and looks great..... at first. We recently moved into a 1940's farmhouse that prior owners used acrylic paint on EVERYTHING. Doors, trim, and cabinets, are ALL pealing and we will be stripping and repainting with a more appropriate paint. If "cheap and dirty" works for you and you don't mind painting it again, and again..... house paint does the job at a fraction of the cost. Some projects deserve a better finish while others look better with your money saved in the bank.
His boat doesn't stay in the water (like a yacht tender pulled along by its painter) or the weather, so the house paint will last and last and last. In fact, he has done no wood preparation, sealing or varnishing, just paint which I would have done for absolute maximum longevity regardless if it's stored indoors when not in use.
You may be right, but that kind of extensive pealing could also be the result of poor or nonexistent prep work (sanding/cleaning before paint). There are also different grades of acrylic. latex is a lot better than vinyl. Absolutely, some projects deserve better.
@@cumberlandrover Could also be moisture in the wood. Used acrylic paint on dry new wooden boards on my house and there are no problems whatsoever after 4 years, and it rains ALL the time here.
@@cumberlandrover I think you nailed the perfect answer for an infrequently used boat. You can use it when you want, beach it without worry, take it home when you're done, and slap another coat of paint on it when it starts looking shabby. Of course it's not "best quality" but it's best price for the right application. Well done.
Never painted a hull nor a wood hull but I painted the interior of my fiberglass boat and it's lasted year. My thinking if I had a wood hull I'd used house paint as scaping the ground , gravel water I doubt marine paint would fair any better.
I suppose it would be possible if you could find them with boards long/wide enough. The little 4x4 pallets, no way. But you can sometimes find good hardwood boards on those that would be useful for making smaller parts on a skiff.
RD Culler, the well known small craft designer and schooner designer and sailor advocated for using house paint on boats in his books. The abhorrent prices for marine grade paints and goo starts dictating an alternative.
You would certainly think so. On my larger 15ft wooden skiff I use oil based paint that's advertised as "barn and fence". Personally, I can't tell that it's any better than acrylic. Similar cost.
I have never used house paint, however I have used Rust-oleum paint. Boy did my friends make fun of me. It really did last and I was even surprised. Eventually they the test of time proved the paint. I’ve got some house paint. Must be time to build another boat. Ha ha.
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You've never thought of fibreglass sheathing and then bilge stainless steel keel strips where it rubs so much on the skeg and bow?
I'm really not a fan of glass and epoxy. hate working with the stuff. Not saying I will never use it. It's obviously effective. I would be more inclined to tape the chines if anything.
Part of the experiment with this skiff is to demonstrate the utility and practicality of plain old wood without hi tech materials. A protective strip on the skeg is a good idea.
New sub here. Bro you have inspired me to build my first boat. Just need to finish my garage...
Nice job Nick ! We're not building a spaceship here, just cost effective !!
Exactly right. This aint rocket surgery.
My great grandparents built a houseboat from metal drums and wood to float and swim on the KY river. I applaud your efforts to do something similar on a smaller scale.
Splendid video! Love your approach and your spirit of experimentation and adventure. Proudly flying one of your pennants! Keep up the great content. Thanks you!
Thank you very much. Appreciate you!
I learnt to sail on a Mirror dinghy and every year or so me and my sister would paint it with old oil based paint. In the past years i have built/restore the odd boat with International boat paint and i dont think its much more durable.
I'd put a piece of copper on your skeg and maybe your chines to give a degree of protection and have used a piece of flattered copper pipe.
We did the low budget car racing (Champcar) for several years. We painted our 1984 300ZX with house paint and a roller. It worked just fine.
Blasphemy! You must use 2 part epoxy high build low drag ultimate space shuttle bottom paint or your boat will immediately sink! Seriously though, a brass rubbing strip on your keel would be a really good idea. You could also use aluminum which you can get at Home Depot.
Talking house paint brings to mind that somewhere in some boat book on the shelf across this room, the author talks about doing a kind of ersatz fiberglassing with house paint and sheer window curtain material.
Yes, it covers and looks great..... at first. We recently moved into a 1940's farmhouse that prior owners used acrylic paint on EVERYTHING. Doors, trim, and cabinets, are ALL pealing and we will be stripping and repainting with a more appropriate paint. If "cheap and dirty" works for you and you don't mind painting it again, and again..... house paint does the job at a fraction of the cost. Some projects deserve a better finish while others look better with your money saved in the bank.
His boat doesn't stay in the water (like a yacht tender pulled along by its painter) or the weather, so the house paint will last and last and last. In fact, he has done no wood preparation, sealing or varnishing, just paint which I would have done for absolute maximum longevity regardless if it's stored indoors when not in use.
You may be right, but that kind of extensive pealing could also be the result of poor or nonexistent prep work (sanding/cleaning before paint). There are also different grades of acrylic. latex is a lot better than vinyl.
Absolutely, some projects deserve better.
@@cumberlandrover Could also be moisture in the wood. Used acrylic paint on dry new wooden boards on my house and there are no problems whatsoever after 4 years, and it rains ALL the time here.
@@cumberlandrover I think you nailed the perfect answer for an infrequently used boat. You can use it when you want, beach it without worry, take it home when you're done, and slap another coat of paint on it when it starts looking shabby. Of course it's not "best quality" but it's best price for the right application. Well done.
Never painted a hull nor a wood hull but I painted the interior of my fiberglass boat and it's lasted year. My thinking if I had a wood hull I'd used house paint as scaping the ground , gravel water I doubt marine paint would fair any better.
Nice video! But what about the thwarts? Do you polyurethane those?
I use a basic spar varnish. It looks really nice on cedar, but is a pain to keep up. Paint is less maintenance.
@@cumberlandrover I’m considering Deks Olje for mine. It’s going to be either that or paint.
do you think making a skiff out of pallet planks would be doable? of course ideally with planks that havent rotted, cherry picking the best ones
I suppose it would be possible if you could find them with boards long/wide enough. The little 4x4 pallets, no way. But you can sometimes find good hardwood boards on those that would be useful for making smaller parts on a skiff.
I wonder how good a thin strip of sheet metal wrapped over the bottom on the skeg would hold up?
RD Culler, the well known small craft designer and schooner designer and sailor advocated for using house paint on boats in his books. The abhorrent prices for marine grade paints and goo starts dictating an alternative.
I LIKE IT ,...maybe a sharks mouth on the bow
Mike
Heck yeah man! Haha
Looks like your 12 footer is your Goldilocks boat. Not too big; not too small.
It really is!
Try Teflon keel/skeg strip. Very common on herring/ sardine skiffs in the bay of Fundy where boats are drug up long distances.
Great idea thanks!
A good source of teflon can be found at surplus industrial ,food manufactureing used equipment stores. Etc.
Works nicely with power one would have in the shop.
Would oil based paints work better?
You would certainly think so. On my larger 15ft wooden skiff I use oil based paint that's advertised as "barn and fence". Personally, I can't tell that it's any better than acrylic. Similar cost.
@@cumberlandrover Im trying a shorter version(8’) of your 12’ sharpie, just picked up the paint and will be doing the bottom/paint this weekend
I have never used house paint, however I have used Rust-oleum paint. Boy did my friends make fun of me. It really did last and I was even surprised. Eventually they the test of time proved the paint. I’ve got some house paint. Must be time to build another boat. Ha ha.