Beverlee McKinsey - Tribute
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2020
- Please tune in to The Locher Room on Monday, November 16th at 3 p.m. EST for a very special tribute to one of the greatest actresses to ever grace our daytime television screens, Beverlee McKinsey. Joining me are Beverlee's son, Scott McKinsey along with her co-stars Grant Aleksander (Phillip Spaulding), Jay Hammer (Fletcher Reade) and Vincent Irizarry (Brandon Lujack Luvonaczek).
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When Alex humiliated Roger at the Country Club that scene was fire! Emmy gold, I wish Beverlee submitted her work from that year, she would've definitely been nominated and even won.
I once wrote Beverlee McKinsey a fan letter and it turned out to be during her last year on Guiding Light. I was a huge fan of her work on Another World, Texas, and Guiding Light. It was a lengthy letter and I was quite surprised one day when I got a response...............not that it would have been above her to respond or anything............I would just not have expected a response from any actor or actress to a fan letter. I remember that she wrote to me: "Wow. What a letter!" She actually told me that if I was ever in NY (I live in Miami) to stop by the studio. Well, I was in NY about 2 or 3 months later. I stopped by the studio and showed them the letter, but she was not there. Well, they called her and she asked (through them) if I could stop by the studio the next day. And I did just that! I got to watch her film a scene with Tina Sloan and then she was kind enough to sit and let me have my picture taken with her. It was a quick visit, but so very wonderful. She was so kind and generous. We love you, Beverlee McKinsey and we miss you still. God love you!
What an amazing story, Daniel! Love this. Thanks for sharing.
Wow, what a story! I'm so glad you were able to have that experience. I hope this message finds you well.
@@missbubbles8367 Thank you. Yes, doing well. Beverlee McKinsey was always my favorite and in writing that long letter I let it all out about different scenes I liked, the way she approached them. I am very good at remembering lines from shows and movies that I like and I have certainly remembered some of hers. We were very blessed to have her with us.
I loved Beverlee McKinsey as Alexandria. She was awesome.
Nice tribute to Ms McKinsey. I wish that Scott would have talked about *Iris* more. Iris was a spoiled brat who was basically in love with her father Mac and profusely hated her step-mother Rachel. It was really one of the best storylines/triangles in soap history
My grandmother who started listening to GL on radio, was a fan of Another World and ATWT. Through her, I learned of the genius of Beverlee as Iris on AW. When Beverlee joined GL we were both over the moon. Grandma was crushed when she left GL, she thought Beverlee had raised the level of acting on the show.
That letter Grant.wrote was so beautiful and it showed clearly that he respected and he adored her!!
For everyone's reference, that discussion begins at 50:30. Folks should listen to this, even if they do not wish to invest the whole hour.
OH I wish Rick Hearst was also doing the interview. Hey now Alex loved her Spaulding boys
I remember when Alex and India was having one of their usual spats and India said to Alex she was doing something "For the common good" and Alex retorted back "You're doing it for your own good and you are common"! lol. That line always makes me laugh, her one liners with that smokey honey voice was incredible. I remember little things like that plus that scene is on RUclips.
I loved India! Especially when she was in scenes with Beverly
Such a poignant tribute. I will buy that book as soon as it is announced. She is unforgettable.
CBS soaps and their actors seldom seem to get the credit that they deserve💜💜
I totally agree. There is so much talent across the networks.
Absolutely. Guding Light in particular
Unfortunately, only two remain on CBS in a dying industry
How wonderful to hear a son speak well of his mom. She certainly did well by him. He also resembles and smiles like his mom. I've taken to Jessica Lange as she delivers that same magnificent voice. Its uncanny. Again.. thank you Allen. Cherished.
Wow! Look at the selection of men that Beverlee McKinsey virtual reunion garnered!!! Impressive!!!
@Hunni Bunni - I agree with you 100%. And weren't they well spoken. And so respectful of the legend known as Beverlee McKinsey. Decades after she first aired on AW here we are still speaking of how those performances of hers that have stayed with us.
I think those gentlemen / actors know exactly how blessed they were to have had the opportunity to work with her during their periods on GL and Texas. What joy it is to have Mr. Locher provide this opportunity for us all to reflect.
Thank you, Joe! Appreciate the kind words.
This channel is the best thing to come out of covid!
I am always moved when reminded how daytime dramas bring so many people from so many places together...Mr. Locher truly has shown us we have so much more in common than perhaps we realize...and his channel is proof positive of this...how accurate you are in your comment @noveltyexpressions
Thank you Joe and Noveltyexpressions -- I appreciate those kind words. Stay safe.
Indeed
Such a joyous show, and YES, the Academy should recognize her!
I wasn't able to listen live but how wonderful to remember Beverlee like this. What a treasure she was and is so missed. Thank you to Alan and to Jay, Grant, Vincent and Scott for letting us get a little peek into the life of this wonderful woman.
Now that is what I call a true tribute Mr. Locher...poignant, touching, funny and the stories bring back so many fond memories of the great Ms. Beverlee McKinsey. The time really flew for me during this broadcast. A testament to how involved I became with the stories offered by the gentlemen you had featured. And Mr. Aleksander's letter....don't get me started. How can we ever thank you for all you have done for us during this dreadful period in time. You have brightened our days so very much and I am forever grateful for all your efforts.
I second, third and fourth that - you have been a sublime host to ALL of us in the chat and outside. You truly are a giving soul and I hope nothing but good comes back to you tenfold.
@@erikandrus4387 I love your slogan Mr. Andrus...a day w/o laughter is a day wasted.
If you ever have the chance look up here on youtube Mr. Grant Aleksander's story about Beverlee McKinsey hating a particular script and in her honey/venom voice what her response was to said script during a moment of unleashed aggravation. He can barely control his laughter recalling that moment...and I can never forget it! Best wishes
@@joebarzo9935 Thank you Mr. Barzo...I just watched it per your referral and I love how Mr. Aleksander speaks of her. Soaps, I would say, if you were an actor, from the beginning of television up until the mid to late 90's seemed to be such a wealth of learning experience. It was never the same once it became about youth demographics, and other mismanaged aspects.
@@erikandrus4387 How very true and how very perceptive of you. A vast number of so called A list actors began on the soundstages of network soaps. Sadly those opportunities have been greatly reduced given that there are only 4 left airing today. I remember in the 80's 15 such programs. Everybody had their own favorite show(s) back in the day....en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981%E2%80%9382_United_States_network_television_schedule_(daytime)
@@joebarzo9935 Thank you :) Going off what I remember when I read "Llanview in the Afternoon", the testimony of actors like Lee Patterson, or Marilyn Chris, Margaret Klenck, actors who worked the serials in the late 60s, and the entirety of the 70s, impressed upon me that that was the time to be on a soap because as an actor, you could quick do your day(time) job and then jet over to Broadway or off Broadway and perform at night. That skillset, in my opinion, that is what made the dramas poignant before it became all about primtime production values highlighting "rape-mances", and "ice princesses". Also I believe during Harding Lemay's tenure at "Another World" he, or Paul Rauch were insistent to cast stage veterans in their show, and that in itself, along with good writing is what made "Another World" must see television".
What a great interview! How exciting that there is a book on Coming about Beverlee! And yes, she deserved an Emmy!
I loved her. I am appreciative of this. I love vincent Irizarry too
Also would love to see a tribute for Larkin Malloy and Roscoe Born!!!
Grant reading this letter, making me laugh through tears. 💓
I remember seeing her on Hawaii 5-0 (original) I was mesmerized by her.
I followed Beverlee from another world to texas. Psm Long was the best writer of texas and the guiding light. i actually discovered guidling light after following her there from texas because i didnt want to lose her storytelling and then we had Beverlee back in an even better character than iris. thanks for this tribute.
You bet. Glad you enjoyed it.
I can remember my mom being excited about when Alexandra appeared on GL because I can barely remember because I was around 8 her on Love Is A Many Splendor Thing. My mom sure remembered her.
Loved loved loved this episode. Beverly was an icon.💖
How fully I agree with you @Craig Silver... and oh how she paved the way for future generations of talented performers. If you have the chance to read her interview on line (conducted by Michael Logan)...please do so. She comes across so incredibly humble as well - a rare quality in one so admired and adored in every single performance in which she ever appeared. Still she comes across somewhat unaware of her immense talent and huge popularity. Repeatedly Mr. Logan asks if she is aware what a big deal her leaving GL was and she says she knows of 10 actresses who could take over and in a year she herself would be forgotten in the role.
Decades later here we are.... and she most assuredly is NOT FORGOTTEN. What a joy this tribute was....
Thank you so much for this beautiful tribute. If you read the chat during the show, we were all saying how much we would love to see another tribute to Ms. McKinsey with her female co-stars Mary Kay Adams, Sherry Stringfield, Kimberly Simms
that would be wonderful to see @Callie Raye - I hope it occurs
That just gave me another idea for a tribute - the ex-wives of Phillip Spaulding, or did they do it already?
@@erikandrus4387 an hour would never be enough time for all those lovely ladies to discuss, chat, gossip, and share all about the likes of Phillip Spaulding..but oh wouldn't it be must see youtube!
And Victoria Wyndham! I was a kid and loved watching them.
@@MandM-tb3lv What powerhouse performances Ms. McKinsey and Ms. Wyndham provided on AW. More than 40 years later and we are still speaking of that golden era...because it shone so brightly by such bright stars! I could hardly wait for the next day's episode back then...or to watch on my huge VCR that day's episode. Must see TV before we knew what it all meant!
I remember watching her first on Another World I couldn't have been more than 10-12 years old and she was just favinating to watch. Her scenes with Rachel just wow. Then Texas which the show itself wasn't the same caliber. Guilding Light as Alexandra was a force of nature. The country club scene with Roger jist wow. Her and Michael Zazlow just sizzled in scenes the cat and mouse. No one like her. Grant's letter was spot on. This was another excellent podcast remembering one of the best who ever graced daytime with her skill and excellent performance. Thak you gentleman for your insight and memories.
Beverley McKinsey was an original, she was THE Alexander and THE Iris on Another World
Thank you for this-she was my favorite actress through the years in both Another World as Iris and also on Guiding Light as Alexandra...such beauty and talent....
Marj Dusay acknowledged how much she had admired Beverlee as a soap actress when Marj was the diva lead in as Myrna on Capital which aired a half an hour before guiding light. I would watch both often back to back, and seem to remember back to back previews of both shows that showed Marj and Beverlee doing their thing. Where Beverlee was probably the Garbo of daytime, Marj was the Stanwyck.
Love that, Mark!
We need a tribute to Charita.....a Legend like no other.....
You are right please have a tribute to Miss Charita Bauer
This was so moving and touching. Thank you Alan for doing this. Beverlee was the BEST actress on Daytime television. I was devastated when she left I didnt understand what happened, but Marj did a great job filling those big shoes. The One and Only Beverlee McKinsey!
You're very welcome, Dee! I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
I grew up in the 80's and my mom would record the CBS soaps, so GL is one that I grew up watching either when I was home from school or watching at night with my mom. The scenes with Alex and Lujac were some of the best ever!!
Alan that was a wonderful show! There will never be another soap actress of that caliber again. I agree that the academy owes her recognition for creating not one but two outstanding characters
Thank you, Kim! I appreciate the kind words.
@@TheLocherRoom No problem
Not to long ago watched one of the first season episodes of "Remington Steele " and she was on it, those years of her portrayal of "Alexandra" on Guiding Light were epic..
That letter Grant wrote was magnificent, describe her to a T!
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I still remember when they had a "Substitute" Iris and my Grandmother was "Outraged". She was Blind but she knew it wasn't "Iris". She had my poor aunt calling the network asking where the "real" Iris was.
This was fantastic. Sometimes I turn on these shows to just catch a taste of what it's going to be like and watch it later, as I intended with this one, but I couldn't turn away and it was over before I knew it. I loved it. Bev was awesome. I enjoyed her entire run on GL.
Should have had someone representing another world...iris carringtion was iconic!!!!!!!!
yes!! her scenes w/ the maid were legendary.
Thank you so much this tribute is long overdue! It's a shame that The Daytime Emmys didn't give her a tribute!! I remember seeing Beverly in Bronco Billy with Clint Eastwood. I loved when Beverly and Kim Zimmer had screen time together talk about powerful divas of daytime!!
Glad you enjoyed it, Terry!
This was wonderful! I didn’t start watching GL till the big blackout storyline in 1992. I instantly got hooked to the show and it was my favorite daytime show for years. The writing was phenomenal in the 1990s. Bev left just a few months after I started tuning in 1992 but in that short time she left a big impression on me. I was crushed when she abruptly left. Over the years I’ve binge watched online a ton of GL episodes from before I started tuning in. She’s definitely one of my all time favorite actresses and characters.
So happy to hear you enjoyed it. Thanks for tuning-in.
Great show as always. Loved the tribute. I remember my mom watching her as Iris on AW and Alex on GL.
I recall Emma Frame, a country bumpkin, when she came to Bay City. I was shocked and delighted when she came back as Iris Carrington who came back as Mac Corey's spoiled daughter. She was gravious and beautiful but her most outstanding feature was her voice. What a lovely, melodious, smoldering voice.
Right? Her voice was everything!
I will never forget summer of 92 when the show was doing very well they lost three major actors from the show just weeks apart. Kimberly Simms left, then Sherry Springfield (Blake) then Beverlee Mckinsey I was like what the hell? three or four months later Maureen Bauer also left.
It was a tough summer for us Springfield fans. I hope you enjoyed the tribute, Mark.
loved her screen partnership/ chemistry with Gretchen Oehler, who played Vivien on both AW and Texas , it really broadened Iris as a character ( and further highlighted her skills as a being able to play comedy)
I think that I read somewhere that Beverlee specifically requested that Gretchen / Vivien cross over from AW to Texas with her. Though other AW characters/ actors may have guested on Texas, I think Gretchen was the only one that became a regular on the show, then returning to AW after Texas was cancelled. 💐🕯
Beverlee McKinsey is inarguably the most powerful actress in soap opera history. Elizabeth Hubbard, Susan Flannery and Kim Zimmer all tie for second place lol
Don't forget about Susan Lucci, who played Erica Kane on All My Children.
Beautiful tribute, and I'll be looking for the book!
So many great stories. I was grinning from ear to ear the entire hour! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it, Michael!
She was superb!
Once again, thank you Alan.
This was so great, and very much appreciated.
You're so welcome, Claudia!
I just love Jay Hammer
I love him, too.
Me too, I'd love to hear his stories from acting and writing. He gave great tea in this reunion and the one with the actress who played Claire.
I’m watching the Jeffersons and I’m on season 5 . Jay was awesome as Allan Willis . Too bad he was only there for that season .
She was a great actress and so beautiful
Couldn't agree more, Sherry!
Beverlee McKinsey deserved a basket full of Emmy' s for both Iris and Alexandra!!! Does anyone know the back story as to why she was never nominated for the Emmy?
Politics.😮
That was great. Very lovely.
Beverlee had told Jill Farren Phelps that she was exhausted and being worked too hard. Jill didn't let up on the workload, which led to Beverlee playing the ace she had in her pocket regarding the six-month out.
I have heard many bad things about Phelps.
Would like tributes to others as well, maybe Douglass Watson, Benjamin Hendrickson, Charles Keating, too many to mention. Good work Alan!
Yes please Alan--would love to see ones on Benjamin Hendrickson and the actor who played James Stenbeck.
@@jbf3953 You mean Anthony Herrera.
@@shawnvilla9912 Yes thanks. I could not remember the name.
I thought that Bevs looked younger as Alex than she did as Iris. I don't get it.
Vincent Irizarry looks amazing for 62
He certainly does!
Grant Aleksander looks good, too.
I loved Beverly as Alex, she was so beautiful ❤
Greatly missed💜💜
I really enjoyed this show, Alan. Honestly, Beverlee is my favorite daytime actress. She cannot ever be beat in my eyes. Although I enjoy all of your shows, this one was very special. I'm so glad you made this one possible.
I'm so glad to hear that, Michelle! Thank you for watching and for the note.
OH shit I forgot I was raking leaves, I'm so mad at myself, but I know it's going to be good, my husband just shakes his head about "my stories". I love daytime stories better then I did prime time.
Happy Birthday, Jay & Vincent!
She was the best! I loved her voice.
Couldn't agree more!
Beautiful lady and great actress.
Agreed, David! Thanks for watching.
I adored Beverlee. She was the best of GL. Always loved how Fletcher called her “Baroness”
Me too, me too. Thanks so much for watching this.
Thank u so much for this! You're awesome!
Thank you Alan! This was an amazing tribute.
Glad you enjoyed it, Everett! Stay well.
Wow we like her she was good I can't believe she gone
The "panty raid" anecdote is HYSTERICAL. It's nice to hear people can have a sense of humor, because nowadays, you wouldn't dare get away it. What was it, the other night, Bill Maher was relaying a recent story that a guy got on an elevator with a woman co-worker, she asked him what floor and he jokingly said "women's lingerie". A day later, he had a formal complaint. I can't even anymore.
In complete and total agreement with you @Erik Andrus.
The best actress ever IMO.
omg Flecher. Phil and more
Beverlee was a goddess!!!
For reals....
Beverlee McKinsey was the best actress on Daytime TV.
Love all the soaps 🎉
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What a class act all these fellas are.
So true!
Is it possible to get a Santa Barbara’ reunion with Robyn Wright and Marcy walker
Don't forget A Martinez....
Alan, may I make a couple of suggestions for future GL guests? I've been watching classic late '70s episodes lately and there are so many wonderful actors/characters from the Dobson era that I'm sure would love to come on and talk about their time with the show. It was probably my favorite era say between 1978 and when Doug Maryland took over in the early '80s. Sadly a lot of those that were on then are no longer with us. Also are you at all actively trying to get Lisa Brown and John Wesley Shipp? That would be an amazing interview and reunion between these two. ❤️❤️
Alan you know the nickname of JFP....Jill Farren F*CK UP...on every soap she helmed. This might not get publish but fans know more than anyone
Losing Beverlee in 1992 was yet another nail in the G/L coffin. While Marj did an incredible job in her portrayal of Alex, the show definitely lost much of its luster with the loss of Beverlee (along with Kimberley Simms departing during summer 1992)
Exactly.
Don't forget losing Maureen 4 months later. That was even worse.
Here’s a link about Patrick Dilley’s book concerning Beverlee : ehs.siu.edu/news/2019/09-13-19.html
I was always curious, was Beverlee ever asked to return to Another World as Iris? Carmen Duncan was wonderful but Bev was it. Another World might have gained more time. That said it was a P&G show and her leaving GL etc....
I wish I had seen her as Carmen. She will always be the Baroness on Guiding Light to me.
I loved the panty raid story. 😀
Is that book about Beverlee McKinsey still in the works?
I don't believe so, Sabrina. 🥺
Too bad they didn't have Kimberly Simms (the second actress to play Mindy Lewis) on here.
Kimberley joined us for the Michael Zaslow tribute. I hope you've seen that one.
@@TheLocherRoom No I haven't but thank you I'm looking forward to watching it was a big fan of Kimberly and Michael Zaslow.
Sorry to comment again but what I said was important and to be fair it was not intended to take anything away from carmin duncan as iris or even Chris Bruno.
But to emphazize that it can also come down to the writing and the ep.
But also to say that 2 out of the p and g shows where already showing signs of dumb decisions even leading up to 1992 1993.
But I think with aw it started in 1989.
Guiding light it started in 1991 to an extant atwt was already showing challenges in 1990 too even with the great Doug Marland there still but the difference with Douglas was a lot of that had to do with pregnancies with Susan Marie Snyder Colleen zenk, melenie Smith having a family emergency and needing to leave the show and bieng unable to find a replacement for her right away.
And unlike aw and guiding light 1992 was the year at atwt where Douglas found a new Emily Stewart killed finally the Darryl Crawford storyline finnaly wrapped up the Gavin grueger storyline killed tonio.
And found a new Sean Baxter in Mary Ellen Stewart's husband.
And had Andy kavovit come back for a Christmas tease.
Intending to write him back in during the 1993 year until douglas died.
I am bringing it up because the discussion of the quality of work and dialog came up too.
And today in daytime and I say absolutely right.
So I understand Jill's point of view too. From your interview with her.
It's just not taking it to far.
Like for example when Paul shot his own father in 1989.
Amd we saw James stenbeck not only choking Emily Stewart.
But punching her repeaditely and it looked so real but so good and Andy as Paul yell get away from her and fire that gun.
Or even to discuss bev and her work it also looked real and so good.
With her wanting to get revenge on Roger Thorpe and having his number even before Jill got there.
And Mindy.
Which by the way started with Mindy going from Rick because I think Micheal I leary was on his way out again as Rick not a chemistry issue as someone tried to say.
But at the same time I just see starting in 1989 and even in 1988 on some ABC soaps the infection of dumb stupid storylines and writing with too much sex stupid drama that just did not make any sense.
Which unfortunately today has continued even on 3 out of the 4 soaps left on television.
And finally I am sick of the crap about budgets and overly worrying about budgets and I am going there from what Jill said when she was at gl.
Because once you start trying to come in under budget then the networks and production companies start talking about actually cutting your budgets and it spreads like a wildfire.
And the look and feel of the show suffers and so does the story.
Which then goes down to the actors feeling overworked and feeling like bev that they are losing the integrity of their work and leave.
And comments like coleen zenk has repeaditely said when discribing Doug Marland with I don't think they would allow that today.
But that's what happens when you go the Jim reilly Jill faren Phelps route Megan McTavish route and even as far as hogan God bless him sheffer did.
So I think another lesson is as we remember bev is don't go there or really think it out because once you go to far it's real hard to take it back and the longer you wait to fix your screw ups the harder it gets.
Like in aws case not recasting Sam fowler with the correct actor in the first place 3 times then just giving up.
Anyway I just think it is important that we come to more of an understanding of these things because when I am looking back at these older episodes I can see it so clearly.
Where it's starting to get bad.
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Hey Alan and others sorry to comment again but I just found an interview from either 1981 or 1982.
Where she said many of the same things she said years later to Micheal Logan.
She also told many fascinating stories too.
And talked about leaving Texas because she had a problem with the change in the writers when Gail kobe came in.
She also talked about how in 1978 the higher ups at p and g wanted to replace her with a younger actress and how Paul Rauch and harding Lemay said to those higher ups if she goes we go.
She also told a bunch of great stories and how she fought to get soap actors better working conditions.
And had some revalations about a certain amc actress.
Anyway here is the link and enjoy
Also Alan you may want to do a Texas reunion and maybe another tribute with Jim poyner
Who played Dennis her son on aw
And lisby Lisbon who played Paige Marshall on Texas and maybe Chris goutman again
Anyway enjoy this interview
ruclips.net/video/Kewy_6Con0o/видео.htmlsi=E2020c-R7RkjtZOp
I can't wait to watch this interview, Gabriel. I may share it to The Locher Room and give you a shout out.
@@TheLocherRoom please do. Remember I sent you aw folders too awhile back I am digging deep Texas though with Gail kobe coming in I am going to have to do it in small doses. But Alan bev left Texas because of the same reasons she left gl.
Also Alan in the Micheal Logan interview bev did warn Jill several times that she did not like what was going on on the production side several times and said if you don't straighten it out I am out. And Jill or whoever said read your contract.
Not realizing bev knew her contract back and forth and had the 6 month 12 week vacation clause there since 1986.
Which I will jokingly call the Gail kobe clause now I am not saying Jill was bad or Gail kobe was all bad.
But let's see grant Alexander did not like her.
At Texas Patrick mulcahy would switch to guiding light.
Then after Texas got canceled Gail would show up at guiding light and piss Doug Marland off.
Hint hint.
Me Alan I am more in the Paul Rauch Doug Marland harding Lemay camp.
And the culliton and Nancy and Stephen demorest camp.
Where the focus is on the basics now to be fair to Jill I think she wanted to be more in the Paul Rauch side and camp but do her stubborn streak and lack of experience at the time. She fell more into the mary Ellis bunim Gail kobe camp.
But I don't think she intended to be that way.
It's just a shame she never got the opportunity to have someone like Paul Rauch mentor her.
Patrick Dilly / Dilley ? book author ☀️🕯🔦
Peccato che non abbia avuto un emmy ... spero che farai un tributo a marj dusay.
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Jay Hammer, what the hell happened ? 🥴
😂 for real!
Alan finally getting around to replying to this one.
So I will start by saying bev deserves to get a posthumios daytime Emmy.
Period and she was not the only one who never got nominated I think Colleen zenk never got one or a Emmy nod.
Andrea Evans so many.
And I am also going to respond to the comments about 1992 bieng a tough year for guiding light absolutely right but also a tough stupid decision year for another world with the awful decision to kill John aprea as Lucas.
The dumb Sam fowler singer decision. And the Brian Greene mess.
Gl losing bev McKinsey losing Kim simms as Mindy who was a different Mindy to Krista but still great.
And the dumb awful decision to have Ed sleep with Lilian them kill Maureen.
And I will add more 1993 was a continuation and even worse year because now it was not just gl and aw but atwt with Doug Marlands death.
But now I will say this bev had respect for the integrity of her work and Jill should have reduced her work schedule period.
And trust me us fans of her work would have understood the same way we understood John Aniston reducing his workload as Victor karakis before he died.
Or another bev example about Overworking an older actor and that's John Clarke as mickey Horton and Jim reilly at days in 2004 to where he had to retire but then instead of after Jim reilly was gone getting him back as mickey Horton killing mickey which again robbed days fans of enjoying mickey until John Clark's death in 2019.
I am saying this because we will take seeing our old favorites working less as long as we can still enjoy are vets gracing our screens when they can.
Like our Alexandra Spauldings or our lucindas.
Now Alan I am going to respond to you mentioning you never saw carmin play iris.
And while as Chris Bruno told you she was a nice lady unfortunately during carmin duncan run as iris she now sounded British and like Chris Brunos run as Dennis the writing was just bad VS bev McKinseys run as iris or Jim paymers run as Dennis.
And Alan iris was a lot like Alexandra was when bev played her.
And Alan things like lujack and later nick McHenry where based off the story at aw that got Texas started with the revaluation that elliot Carrington was not really Dennis's dad. And Alex wheeler was who iris married.
And writing a great beautiful back story that really explained why iris had behaved so badly.
But now I will say this I think aw when Micheal liabson was still the executive producer missed a huge opportunity to have let carmin duncan go and brought bev back as iris and given her the chance to work with Chris Bruno while he was still playing Dennis.
And I say that because Donna swajeski was already on her way out as headwriter brought harding Lemay back who created iris.
And could have really turned around aw.
And Alan don't feel like you were missing much with Carmen duncan in the role because you weren't as iris.
I think at that time at aw the closest to bevs version of iris was Sandra Fergusons performances as Amanda Cory although they were too lightly written and sloppy at times but like bev had the incredible ability to display extreme warmth and affection with a protective nature but then if you crossed her or hurt her loved ones could be fierce with those slaps and leave you shaking in your boots whether you were male or female.
And boy ohh boy when she was on to you watch out like Roger Thorpe or Kim simms version of Mindy after sleeping with Roger.
Or kinda like the way Sandra as Amanda Cory in 1991 chewed out Dennis with Chris Bruno playing bevs iris's son or how Sandra as Amanda Cory really went after alison hossack Olivia Matthew's with the dumb pregnancy storyline of Olivia lying to Sam with its your baby but wait it was really Dennis baby.
And watching carmin and Dennis acting like with the writing anything like Jim paymer or bev McKinsey.
And that's where if bev returned as iris in 1992.
Even after Olivia left town with David her physical therapist cutting Dennis out of his baby's life.
Hurting Dennis who just wanted his child and to be a father to the baby.
I could just picture bevs iris comforting her son and feeling his pain and anger and then literely tracking down Olivia and literely making Olivia regret she ever left town and denying her son the opportunity to raise his baby maybe a huge scheme and manipulation of the European court system.
Finding Olivia smacking the crap out of her taking the baby from her saying you will never see your son again
And then bringing the baby back to Dennis.
But wait just like Alexandra Spaulding that would not be enough for bevs iris.
And I am mentioning it so Alan you understand that much of how bev McKinseys Alexandra Spaulding was so was her portrayel of iris just 2 different soaps with different charecter names.
And Alan as I have said I think if guiding light could be remixed and fixed with making it look like bev never left using cgi and Ai until bev McKinsey actually died in 2008 with Jill involved fixing her mistakes but others I think would go a long way to making amends to her son and many gl fans vice versa I think it would be great if the same thing was done at aw too fix it where bev came back in 1998 and just played iris up through 2008 so she could be homered properly through both legendary charecters she created and was loved by fans on both shows.
Glad you enjoyed this one, Gabriel. Thank you for your take.
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Grant is the only one who is ageless lol
Ha Ha -- thanks for watching, Tina.
@@TheLocherRoom it's true he looks exactly like he did at 20 years old . He looks like that 20 year old jock lol he has always been my favourite 😍