As a speedrunner myself, with a time of 1:49:12, this guide is pretty helpful for people who may not be acquainted with the game. But there are a couple things I would like to make note of. Never grab the flag on a timer ending in 1,3 or 6. It’s faster to wait a in-game second than to do so. As by doing so, you only lose 0.75 seconds compared to the 2-3 seconds lost from the fireworks. You actually want to get a backup cat suit in 2-3, not 1-1, as 2-3 has a cat bell right in your path. In 1-2 it’s actually faster to throw the above shell at the Goomba stack. In 2-A, is you use the cursor to stun the Galoombas, they can be knocked out instantly with a claw swipe. In 3-1, make sure to release crouch before jumping, as you may accidentally long jump. After 3-CT, make sure to warp back to the beginning of W3 The furthest way to cross gaps is to cat claw twice in the air float with peach, then cat claw some more. This allows us to jump from the switchboard from Green Star 2, to Green Star 3, and to the end in 3-7 with a running start. A similar technique is used in 3-Train to move between the trains, which progresses the autoscroll faster. In 3-B, you can also use ground-pound jumps In 4-4, you can bounce across the biddybuds to skip the moving platform, it’s also much easier than it looks (assuming you have a cat suit) Now here’s where most people’s route diverges After 5-CT, we go to 1-CT via the hidden warp pipe at the bottom of W5. In 1-CT, we grab stars 3,4, and 5 first, then drop down and get 2 and 1. Afterwards we warp back to W5, do 5-1, and then go to 5-3, where we get all 3 stars. Otherwise everything is the same except we go to W6 immediately after 5-Castle. Now this is a common misconception, but Prince Bully isn’t RNG, he actually operates on very tight cycles. The way we do it is we go to the right of him, and rolling long jump him into the middle left pipe. He’ll usually pop out the bottom left pipe. In 6-MH, on Star 3 (The P switch one), it’s better to do it normally unless you have the touch starts down perfectly. In Motley Bossblob, you don’t want to collect the double cherries, as they do slow down the pipe entry. For 7-1, you can skip the final pipe. It’s usually done with peach and cat momentum (which is still the fastest way of moving combined with vectoring with peach) In 8-1, you do actually want to collect green star 2. Another more minor route diversion. Some people go to 8-2 like in the video for safety, but going to 8-3 saves 20 seconds on average. Keep in mind if you go to 8-3, you only get green stars 1 and 2. In 8-4, we also collect green star 2. In 8-6, collect star 2 if you went to 8-3 instead, otherwise just skip it. In 8-Castle, most people use rumble to time their jumps. Also remember to not collect any green stars, though I have seen people collect Green Star 3 for fun. Now you may have noticed I didn’t mention more advanced skips, such as Fuzzy Skip, Candle Skip, Or any of the Grumblump skips. That’s because these are much more difficult, and you’d be better off using these once you get better. Same thing for crouch boosting. I hope this helps anyone that sees it!
@@jonathonmeasday8451 This tutorial is full of terrible misinformation and was not well-made, this comments from a REAL speedrunner makes clarifications
1:44 Nico: “But for a speedrun, we don't need a slowpoke like him.” Peach: **sits in corner quietly** 5:03 Now I know why stamps are cringe! Thanks, Nico.
1:17 After playing 3D World with all characters. I wished they gave Mario the spin jump similar to Rosalina once you unlock her just to pay homage to Galaxy.
17:47 if you memorize the level layout you can actually skip almost all of the auto scroll as the game allows you to go ahead if the camera. The camera will always catch up to you in the spots where he showed in the video. So For the two vertical sections you can cut the time down drastically and the olny auto scroll you have to follow is the horizontal part.
I’ve been trying to speedrun the game too, but I wasn’t using any routes and I’ve only done it twice so far. I got like roughly 2 hours and 30 minutes my second run, so that wasn’t too bad.
LuigiMaster and Movefish are great top runners, however they use a lot more technical strats not suitable for beginner runners. If you want to watch a more beginner friendly run, watch a run from the 1:48-2:05 range
Fun fact: If u do 5-3, there’s a little skip that allows u to bypass the second indoor section. Get a propeller, go to the wall, go up and climb the rest of the way. Then ur at the flag. (This is done outside where the key coins are)
(Im speedrunning for my first time today on Mario 3D world switch) what time will I get? Comment here, when I done I will say if ur right *500 guesses left*
It would be worth timing all the green stars for how much time you lose off the optimal path to clear a level, and compared to alternate path levels length, and when and how many stars you need for each time the game gates you off by green stars to continue. It might be tedious as there so many of them, but if it hasn't been done completely, it should to optimize routes through the game.
At 6:43 when he is talking about not climbing with the cat suit on the flag why dont you just not have the cat suit or like take damage at the end to hit the flag
When you talk about how Mario does not have any special abilities, you are basing the other abilities off him so he is basically a control character meaning you are wrong.
Hi there i would like to clear up some route optimisations / improved movement for anyone that is interested -2 4. For more advanced players, you get all stars in 2-4 instead of missing out the 2nd star. it can be quite annoying but can be made fast with a bit of practice ( this is the 1st star you need out skip 5-2) -3 B. For hisstocrat. it is better to do the luigi skips with a ground pound. rather than a spinjump. This info is very unknow, but the 3d world trickjump community have known this for a long time. Plus it also makes the alignment to hit hisstocrat a lot easier -4 1. the ant trooper skip at the end of the level can 1. Be done without taking damage 2. also can be done with luigi ( peach makes it easier ) clips.twitch.tv/FrozenHandsomeCormorantDancingBanana-dGe14pKMIvdr_Xc1 Note: my clip here doesn't do the easiest method. Instead it is better to cat dive to the wall next to the lower platform & climb up that. 4 A. For more advanced peeps out there. it is better to throw the rocks on each other instead of all of them into the lava. its a slight optimisation that saves a few seconds but it really isn't necessary W5 Route changes Right so Nico's route here is really slow. It currently stands that the main route does 5-captain toad, then 1-captain toad, then 5-1, then 5-3, This route completely skips out 5-2 & saves quite a lot compared to the route in this video. 5-6. Instead of missing out the second star here. the current route says to get the second star in this level. This is the second star that you get to skip 5-2 7-4. for those who are scared going into this level. the skip at the end can be done itemless www.twitch.tv/tmrvonta/clip/ApatheticDepressedBaguetteUWot-ziWFWTMWGd1Az0qI this is possible with all characters apart form toad. also in the middle island where the green coins are. if you ground pound the middle island there will be a tanooki so you can do the skip if uncomfortable. 7-7. Luigi is the fastest character here, it doesn't matter much but if you are looking for a cheeky few seconds. Luigi is your best bet. 7-Castle. there is a setup for using the pointer controls. imgur.com/a/0aQfKiU My image may be a bit off but if it is. the setup is a bit more to the right. So if you move the pointer at a 45 degree angle from the setup area. the soccer bombs will fly right in bowsers face. 8-2. For more advanced peeps out there it is faster to do 8-3 instead of 8-2. this is really necessary until low 1:5x level. In 8-3 you only need to get the 1st & 2nd star in the level 8-4. If you decided to do 8-3. You will need to get the 2nd star in this level meaning you will need to get all the stars in 8-4. If you are slightly more advanced. the 2nd star in 8-6 is faster but EXTREMLEY RISKY. its probably not worth it to got for till top 10 level imo. Thats it! i will also add the current switch route doc if anyone is interested to have a look docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qAfEr32MQhWD1EoPXHRCkLv1mkLtR6w9TB9_Es1Z-6g/edit#gid=0 I just wanted to clear up some misrouting + better movement if anyone is interested.
As a speedrunner myself, with a time of 1:49:12, this guide is pretty helpful for people who may not be acquainted with the game. But there are a couple things I would like to make note of.
Never grab the flag on a timer ending in 1,3 or 6. It’s faster to wait a in-game second than to do so. As by doing so, you only lose 0.75 seconds compared to the 2-3 seconds lost from the fireworks.
You actually want to get a backup cat suit in 2-3, not 1-1, as 2-3 has a cat bell right in your path.
In 1-2 it’s actually faster to throw the above shell at the Goomba stack.
In 2-A, is you use the cursor to stun the Galoombas, they can be knocked out instantly with a claw swipe.
In 3-1, make sure to release crouch before jumping, as you may accidentally long jump.
After 3-CT, make sure to warp back to the beginning of W3
The furthest way to cross gaps is to cat claw twice in the air float with peach, then cat claw some more. This allows us to jump from the switchboard from Green Star 2, to Green Star 3, and to the end in 3-7 with a running start.
A similar technique is used in 3-Train to move between the trains, which progresses the autoscroll faster.
In 3-B, you can also use ground-pound jumps
In 4-4, you can bounce across the biddybuds to skip the moving platform, it’s also much easier than it looks (assuming you have a cat suit)
Now here’s where most people’s route diverges
After 5-CT, we go to 1-CT via the hidden warp pipe at the bottom of W5. In 1-CT, we grab stars 3,4, and 5 first, then drop down and get 2 and 1. Afterwards we warp back to W5, do 5-1, and then go to 5-3, where we get all 3 stars. Otherwise everything is the same except we go to W6 immediately after 5-Castle.
Now this is a common misconception, but Prince Bully isn’t RNG, he actually operates on very tight cycles. The way we do it is we go to the right of him, and rolling long jump him into the middle left pipe. He’ll usually pop out the bottom left pipe.
In 6-MH, on Star 3 (The P switch one), it’s better to do it normally unless you have the touch starts down perfectly.
In Motley Bossblob, you don’t want to collect the double cherries, as they do slow down the pipe entry.
For 7-1, you can skip the final pipe. It’s usually done with peach and cat momentum (which is still the fastest way of moving combined with vectoring with peach)
In 8-1, you do actually want to collect green star 2.
Another more minor route diversion.
Some people go to 8-2 like in the video for safety, but going to 8-3 saves 20 seconds on average. Keep in mind if you go to 8-3, you only get green stars 1 and 2.
In 8-4, we also collect green star 2.
In 8-6, collect star 2 if you went to 8-3 instead, otherwise just skip it.
In 8-Castle, most people use rumble to time their jumps. Also remember to not collect any green stars, though I have seen people collect Green Star 3 for fun.
Now you may have noticed I didn’t mention more advanced skips, such as Fuzzy Skip, Candle Skip, Or any of the Grumblump skips. That’s because these are much more difficult, and you’d be better off using these once you get better. Same thing for crouch boosting.
I hope this helps anyone that sees it!
That is a big comment...
Good job wasting ur time 👍🏻
also, diving/rolling at a soccer ball makes it count as 2 hits (I think, that was on the wii u version)
@@jonathonmeasday8451 This tutorial is full of terrible misinformation and was not well-made, this comments from a REAL speedrunner makes clarifications
@@xxEzraBxxx Woahhhh calm down buddy
@@sampletext52 I’m not wrong tho
1:44 Nico: “But for a speedrun, we don't need a slowpoke like him.”
Peach: **sits in corner quietly**
5:03 Now I know why stamps are cringe! Thanks, Nico.
Yeeeeesssssss nico!!!
Mario's faster than Luigi and peach
But road is faster than mario
Toad
@@fg4life124 never said he was the fastest
Thanks for the guide! Now I will get 24th
hi tetra big fan
Hi
Ok
That... would make him 26th
Lol
Nico & Bathaniel Uploaded at the same time EPIC
Facts
EPIC
Spittin fax eh?
That is EPIC
@Shaun Lavery every like is personalised
Because it’s been liked by a person!
Ba dum chh
1:17
After playing 3D World with all characters. I wished they gave Mario the spin jump similar to Rosalina once you unlock her just to pay homage to Galaxy.
Yeah but then that would be baby mode.
17:47 if you memorize the level layout you can actually skip almost all of the auto scroll as the game allows you to go ahead if the camera. The camera will always catch up to you in the spots where he showed in the video. So For the two vertical sections you can cut the time down drastically and the olny auto scroll you have to follow is the horizontal part.
Nicos Speedruns are EPIC. Also Toad is sppppeeeeeeeddddddd
Luigi is usually faster
@speedrun gaming lol! #toad_the_hedgehog
SPEEEEEEDDD
At 14:25 you can select world 4 without selecting world 3
You should have the world record because i just saw you complete the game in 23 minutes
Hey! 360 Chrism is there! Right above Nico! He's the chillest guy ever
Seeing nico speedrunning so smoothly is really satysfying
Its always fun seeing him trying to speedrun
Daniel: it’s fun to see him trying to speed run
Key word: TRYING
@@jonathonmeasday8451 lol
I’ve been trying to speedrun the game too, but I wasn’t using any routes and I’ve only done it twice so far. I got like roughly 2 hours and 30 minutes my second run, so that wasn’t too bad.
Hey I upload videos and I tried speed running this game but I was literally in world two in two hours maybe could you help me
ive gotten to world 2 in like 30 minutes
At 13:50 it also works with peach if you ground pound jump:)
Dude I am obsessed with this game and your channel!!
"I'm far from a pro"
Idk man, I would say being the 25th best person in the world is pretty good
Actually he is 29th place now
Look up KingBoo97 and LuigiMaster, they are the best 3DW runners and it looks insane at the truly top level.
@@brandytweak7342 I already know luigimaster06 I'm subed to him he makes great videos
@@brandytweak7342 kingboo hardly does sm3dw anymore
LuigiMaster and Movefish are great top runners, however they use a lot more technical strats not suitable for beginner runners. If you want to watch a more beginner friendly run, watch a run from the 1:48-2:05 range
Ty nico for this vid. I’m currently 33rd on the leaderboards with a 1:57:47 . I’m fairly close to top 25 so I’m close to bopping you.
1:46 “we don’t need a slowpoke like him”
Also him: *made a mario is a hero video 9 months ago*
Does this work for the WII U version too?
Good luck speed running Bowser's fury without any power-ups
Ooof
Good job on getting 25th on any percent! I can’t even speedrun like you or at all. Thanks for this video it really helped me speedrun this game.
Coinless speedruns would be epic.
Fun fact:
If u do 5-3, there’s a little skip that allows u to bypass the second indoor section. Get a propeller, go to the wall, go up and climb the rest of the way. Then ur at the flag. (This is done outside where the key coins are)
Nico don't stop making videos these are epic
I just remembered who he is and i still remember his video from 5 years ago that i used to watch
Wow! Love you’re content! Keep up bye good work!
9:25 Nico you can trow a shell into the goomba tower and aim for the warp pipe that will save you some time
Toad: Gotta go FAST!!!
Sonic: woah man! Wait for me!
🍄 🍄 🍄
i cant be the only person that is trying to learn the route and has come back to this video like 30 times
1:31 "And Toad runs as fast as Sonic the Hedgehog!"
I don't think Toad can run at the speed of sound.
Oops. Sorry
Yes I like these types of speed run guides!
Now I'm motivated to learn this
The route guide starts at 8:55
"I've been playing Super Mario 3D World quite a lost" nicobbq 2021
Nicobbq should speed run the whole 3D Mario Franchise that would be fun
good job nico! 25th place isnt too bad!
Thank you Nico. Now I will do my 2nd speedrun in my life. Thanks 😊
In sm3dw + bf, Mario is known as good for everything, he has some average speed, average jump hight, he's pretty good.
But then again he’s trash ONLY because he’s useless because luigi is just better and he is the same speed as Mario so Mario is really useless
world 3-5: *plays as luigi*
also world 3-5: *shows peach's icon at the bottom*
20:12 you're right because in the next level you only have 4 lives
I like ur vids because ur chill, awsome, and dont clickbait like most people
0:16 “I am no pro speed runner”
Is in 25th behind 360 chrism, who I think is a pretty pro speed runner
Still tho heat vid
This video was great, you should continue the series!
18:15 omg that was so brutal 😭😭
(Im speedrunning for my first time today on Mario 3D world switch) what time will I get? Comment here, when I done I will say if ur right *500 guesses left*
As a Luigi main in 3D World, I approve of this speedrun.
Oh no this pfp
About your favourite levels of green o water nico how about make my favourite underground levels
thanks, i always see videos about speedruns but never ones that explain what the speedrunner is actually doing to go fast
"Level 1-2 is surprisingly simple" *tragic flashbacks : "It's actually surprisingly simple"*
This was really helpful as I got 3d world for Christmas
Mario da loosa. The game shouldn’t be called ‘Mario’ 3d world
I did not expect for you to avoid ALL of those stamps.
Dude this is perfect now I can speed run the game ty so much Nico 😃
I find it funny how many of these I discovered on my own from beating every level with every character.
ngl this was an AMAZING guide🤩😎 thanks
Awesome video man keep up the good work
19:43
You can do a cat jump to reach the check point faster
I got 1:55:06 a few weeks ago, and now I’m right behind you on the leaderboard.
It would be worth timing all the green stars for how much time you lose off the optimal path to clear a level, and compared to alternate path levels length, and when and how many stars you need for each time the game gates you off by green stars to continue. It might be tedious as there so many of them, but if it hasn't been done completely, it should to optimize routes through the game.
this r button cursor was also what replaced pointing the wii remote at the screen and pressing a in the 3d all stars version of galaxy
18:03 This is the secret baseball mini-game
I’m dieing the only cure is to give nico million subscribers
Thank you for the guide!! I think I might actually buy the game and speedrun it now!
20:30 You can also use the cat suit
Thank you so much man keep up the good work! ☺️
I remember watching a live stream of you trying to be your personal best for speed running
Thanks for making this super helpful enjoyable video.
mario is actually really good imo
5:46 Pet the good luigi.
Your the best speedrunner off Mario
I remember the days back on the Wii U where cat momentum was the fastest....
Now its vectoring!
And crouch boosts, even though he doesn't mention them.
cat momentum wasnt the fastest on wii u
Thank you so much nico soon I was about to do a speed run in a couple of days thank you so much you are cool
Thank you this will help a lot
I’ve never tried a speedrun before so I might need to give this game a try it looks fun to speedrun
At 6:43 when he is talking about not climbing with the cat suit on the flag why dont you just not have the cat suit or like take damage at the end to hit the flag
I made a video on Vectoring before this video released and I had no idea it was called that lol
Nice video a lot people will try to speed run this game!
Nico: we never use Mario. Me: why is it called Mario 3D world
Now this is epic!
Thank you!
Is It faster if you get in the turtle shell and spinning around?
When you talk about how Mario does not have any special abilities, you are basing the other abilities off him so he is basically a control character meaning you are wrong.
I've been watching these attempts live
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS
Nico thanks the victom glitch is cool it can work for Mario to
you could probably gain speed by changing your power up before touching the flag because it takes a while for the cat characters to claim the flag.
They should really make a speedrun category where it’s just any % but ONLY Mario can be used
At the beginning of the bowser fight, you can save time by long jumping on the stairs. Yay!
Really liked this video!
Gets 25th in the world wide speed run of super Mario 3D world Nico: I’m far from a pro Me: 😐
Actually he is 29th place now
That’s still impressive
@@nathange4655 just wanted to point that out
Thanks a lot Nico, now my pb is 2:04:51
5-2 is a “fun stage because you can skip a part at the beginning” this item is related to:school
At 19:44 you can cat dive over there where the lag is but I think that would have been a waste of time
@@nelsonmapiano I forgot I made this comment lol
21:27 WHEN THE NICO IS SUS
Hi there
i would like to clear up some route optimisations / improved movement for anyone that is interested
-2 4. For more advanced players, you get all stars in 2-4 instead of missing out the 2nd star. it can be quite annoying but can be made fast with a bit of practice ( this is the 1st star you need out skip 5-2)
-3 B. For hisstocrat. it is better to do the luigi skips with a ground pound. rather than a spinjump. This info is very unknow, but the 3d world trickjump community have known this for a long time. Plus it also makes the alignment to hit hisstocrat a lot easier
-4 1. the ant trooper skip at the end of the level can 1. Be done without taking damage 2. also can be done with luigi ( peach makes it easier ) clips.twitch.tv/FrozenHandsomeCormorantDancingBanana-dGe14pKMIvdr_Xc1 Note: my clip here doesn't do the easiest method. Instead it is better to cat dive to the wall next to the lower platform & climb up that.
4 A. For more advanced peeps out there. it is better to throw the rocks on each other instead of all of them into the lava. its a slight optimisation that saves a few seconds but it really isn't necessary
W5 Route changes
Right so Nico's route here is really slow.
It currently stands that the main route does 5-captain toad, then 1-captain toad, then 5-1, then 5-3, This route completely skips out 5-2 & saves quite a lot compared to the route in this video.
5-6. Instead of missing out the second star here. the current route says to get the second star in this level. This is the second star that you get to skip 5-2
7-4. for those who are scared going into this level. the skip at the end can be done itemless www.twitch.tv/tmrvonta/clip/ApatheticDepressedBaguetteUWot-ziWFWTMWGd1Az0qI this is possible with all characters apart form toad. also in the middle island where the green coins are. if you ground pound the middle island there will be a tanooki so you can do the skip if uncomfortable.
7-7. Luigi is the fastest character here, it doesn't matter much but if you are looking for a cheeky few seconds. Luigi is your best bet.
7-Castle. there is a setup for using the pointer controls. imgur.com/a/0aQfKiU My image may be a bit off but if it is. the setup is a bit more to the right. So if you move the pointer at a 45 degree angle from the setup area. the soccer bombs will fly right in bowsers face.
8-2. For more advanced peeps out there it is faster to do 8-3 instead of 8-2. this is really necessary until low 1:5x level. In 8-3 you only need to get the 1st & 2nd star in the level
8-4. If you decided to do 8-3. You will need to get the 2nd star in this level meaning you will need to get all the stars in 8-4. If you are slightly more advanced. the 2nd star in 8-6 is faster but EXTREMLEY RISKY. its probably not worth it to got for till top 10 level imo.
Thats it! i will also add the current switch route doc if anyone is interested to have a look docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qAfEr32MQhWD1EoPXHRCkLv1mkLtR6w9TB9_Es1Z-6g/edit#gid=0
I just wanted to clear up some misrouting + better movement if anyone is interested.
2-4 isn't quicker unless you are really good at gyro, it's only a tiny bit quicker and way more inconsistent
Thank you this will come in handy
more of this, yes!
I think I was slow speedrun*
Make sure you do your vectoring with both direction and magnitude.
OH YEAH!
6:05 *laughs in super mario galaxy*
a couple of warp zone pipes, also known as just 2, here is where they are: 1-2, 4-2
I think there is 1 in 4-2, I’m not sure