Leon ... no need to remove the air intake tube and airbox cover .. just spray directly in the breather hose port .. you are creating a stronger vacum by doing it this way , delivering the fogging oil better to the internals
This is exactly what I want to do but wondered if it would back blow to the air filter and it sounds like it does get back into filter housing. I fought with the housing unlike Leon. Cycle Springs Yamaha adds a fog port but will not sell them and I can't see where it goes. Seems like such a simple thing that is made very complicated. Dealer wants $600 to winterize.
A great informational for long term storage! Like you said, do what the manual says and then what makes you comfortable. It’s your toy, you do whatever you feel is necessary to make sure you have a future season without headache and worry!
It's really not. Thus was hardly a real winterization, it was an embarrassment. His engines or waterboxes will crack if it gets really cold, I promise.
Hey no worries Jeff, I consider myself a lifetime learner, we're always learning. I'm away from home on vacation so I can't verify, but I believe it's 5/8s or 16mm. Good luck!.
I'm lucky as my AR195 fits perfectly in one of my garage bays. The garage isn't heated but I do run a small electric heater out there that always keeps it well above freezng. Of course I do the regular maintenance following the recommended schedule, oil change, plugs, use a fuel stabilizer, battery tender, etc. This past summer was my 3rd on this boat and it starts up on the first try each and every time. Always enjoy your videos!
Great video. Two questions: 1-) is Fogging the engine recommended even if you don’t winter store the boat? and how often? ( I boat all year in florida). 2-) how much do you spray the engine air intake? When do you know when to stop? Tks
Let's ride, two great questions. Fogging is protection for long term storage, not necessarily just for winter. If you boat all year long I wouldn't worry about it. Secondly, I spray the fogging oil into the air intake in bursts for a minute or two emptying like half the can. I'm no professional, but this has worked well for me. Thanks for watching!
It's important to use antifreeze in the cockpit drains (don't know about this particular model, having a drain line freeze and crack in a Yamaha Exciter can ruin your day). Also, the antifreeze should be pumped in around the bilge pump and allow the pump to pump it out. Then there is the trailer...
You are correct man. I can't believe yamaha doesn't mention it. And of course all these boat nubes will read the manual and think that's the word of God. Your car recommends an oil change every 15k, would you wait till 15k though? Fck no. Pour that antifreeze in, there's no way for all the water to exit the engine completely with these water cooled motors, you are absolutely correct any inboard, out board, jet boat or jet ski engine, unless it's closed loop coolant system, it's gonna need antifreeze. Period. Anyone who wants to argue with that can put their foot in their mouth
I don’t recall exactly, but there are plenty of similar and perhaps better ones on Amazon, here is an example: Spray Can Replacement Straws Flexible Spray Can Straws Red Plastic Extension Straws, 51.1 Inches, 4 Count a.co/d/0W0sTX9
Leo 14:50 .. you should run a compression test on each cyl just to know your spec right before you fog .. yamaha says minimum 121 psi ... your boat is getting up in age now and would be good to know your compression is still good ..could get a tester on amz for like 35$ .. perfect time while all plugs are out , crank for 7 seconds each cylnder with lanyard off and must be done with all plugs out ... even a step further is a boroscope camera to check on things in there another 35$ amz for basic one ... hey makes for good video !
Not bad advice. But still hitting over 40 mph and 7800 rpm. If compression was a bit low in one cylinder what would I do to correct it short of a complete rebuild of rings and head gasket? Not looking to do that..lol.
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore I hear ya .. but it's good to know and start a baseline . Do it make a video when you go to winterize next month while the plugs are out .I just did mine
another thing ... just install the new plugs at the end of fogging session .. so your ready for next season and dont have to pull them again .. remb 18.5 ftlbs
Hi Capin Leon, first of all, I find your RUclips channel very informative and enjoyable. I am an owner of Yamaha 195FHS, purchased in 2022, and I also live in Long Island. Could you please let me know where I can purchase the spray nozzle staw? The one I bought from Amazon doesn't fit the Yamaha Fogging Oil Spray, so I couldn't use it. Can you provide information on where to buy the straw as shown in the video? By the way, last year, while performing fogging oil with a short straw, it got sucked into the throttle body. ^^) Also, the 2022 model has a pan right in front of the throttle body, so when I turn on the engine, the fogging oil sprays out immediately. In such a case, how should I apply to fog oil?
Thanks Peter. So I don't remember where I got those straws, but my thought is that it should be universal with most cans. You need to apply good pressure to get the straw to insert into nozzle on the Yamaha can. Perhaps buy a different brand? I see you have the supercharged engine, I'm not sure of the best way to fog that as mine is naturally aspirated. Perhaps check on the Yamaha forums? Good luck and thanks for watching!
This is excellent. I have a 2023 GP1800R HO. Same engine. Would you trust the dealer to be this thorough as the manual and service bulletin calls for? Where did you acquire the technical service bulletin? Im assuming you paid to download the service manual from somewhere online? Considering doing this myself so I know it's done correctly
Thank you sir, I believe the service manuals are available online at Yamaha's website. I got mine years ago, but regardless of cost try to acquire one, it's really good to have. Thanks for watching.
Sam, I honestly don't remember, but I'm sure a google search should point you in the right direction. They are popular and available. Sorry about that, good luck.
I imagine it's mostly the same. Supercharged engines are a bit different. Try to consult your manual or talk to your local shop. Either way it's not difficult to do yourself. Thanks.
If you turn the engine over without plugs, fuel is sprayed into cylinders without burning. Can this excess of old fuel left for several months in the cylinders cause some problems?
I turn the engine over for just a second with the lanyard pulled to prevent ignition. I'm not sure if fuel is injected, but if it is I'm sure it won't hurt. Great observation though!
That Pink RV/pool antifreeze is not for the use in an engine...and it states that on the container so not sure why you would use it and not use the proper antifreeze for engine use?
Eric, here is what I use: www.westmarine.com/west-marine--50f-engine-water-system-antifreeze-gallon-499848.html, read what it is designed for. Thanks for looking out and thanks for watching.
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore Well I stand corrected and Kudos to you...first person I've seen to not use the cheap RV antifreeze that turns to slush at 5*F. Though that product only protects to 14*F. I'd still use standard green 50/50 engine coolant.
Steve, I'm careful when changing oil to not drip oil during removal of the filter. I also just get in there with towel and spray cleaner and clean the fiberglass bottom now and then. It stays pretty clean on its own too.
Jeff Rose, I'm sure there are a few additional steps with the supercharger in the 195. I'm sorry but I'm not too familiar with it. Check on the forums perhaps.
I really don't. In the spring after I burn off the fogging oil I end up changing them anyway. I'm not sure of what the torque setting on the plugs are, but I think it's only 15 lbs or so, it's not much. @@TheJeffrose1981
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore ok, thank you so much for your help. What's your opinion on fogging the motor with a supercharger? Is it ok for the fogging oil to go through the supercharger?
They think you dont have to use rv antifreese for these newer boats as if they dint have water cooling jackets thruought the engine and a waterbox filled with water in the exhaust system. YES YOU NEED TO USE RV ANTIFREEZE. Ive been winterizing, servicing and wrenching on skis, jet boats, outboards, inboards for over 15 years and none of these engines will allow all the water to drain entirely. If someone tells you that you dont need rv antifreeze, unless its a closed coolant loop system and not water-cooled - then dont listen to em. I promise you do 👍
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore Hello Captain Leon! It is an honor to meet someone as yourself. My wife and I recently purchased a 2015 sx192 and am learning as much as possible about this boat being a newbie (older retired!) boat owner. Do you have a Tech Exchange for super charger winterization? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the great videos!
You can, but I always feel I would risk getting some on the air filter. I also wipe the inside of the air intake with a paper towel when I'm done as some usually drips to the bottom in there.
Leon ... no need to remove the air intake tube and airbox cover .. just spray directly in the breather hose port .. you are creating a stronger vacum by doing it this way , delivering the fogging oil better to the internals
I thought of that but do not want to get any fogging oil on the air filter. I hate that I can't see where its going.
This is exactly what I want to do but wondered if it would back blow to the air filter and it sounds like it does get back into filter housing. I fought with the housing unlike Leon. Cycle Springs Yamaha adds a fog port but will not sell them and I can't see where it goes. Seems like such a simple thing that is made very complicated. Dealer wants $600 to winterize.
These toys we buy aren't cheap. It would be foolish not to take good care of them. I love your vids Leon. Keep it up!
Agreed! Thanks for watching!
A great informational for long term storage! Like you said, do what the manual says and then what makes you comfortable. It’s your toy, you do whatever you feel is necessary to make sure you have a future season without headache and worry!
It's really not.
Thus was hardly a real winterization, it was an embarrassment.
His engines or waterboxes will crack if it gets really cold, I promise.
Captain Leon,
Rookie question, but we are who we are. What size socket is the spark plug socket?
Thank you for all your help on the channel.
Hey no worries Jeff, I consider myself a lifetime learner, we're always learning. I'm away from home on vacation so I can't verify, but I believe it's 5/8s or 16mm. Good luck!.
I'm lucky as my AR195 fits perfectly in one of my garage bays. The garage isn't heated but I do run a small electric heater out there that always keeps it well above freezng. Of course I do the regular maintenance following the recommended schedule, oil change, plugs, use a fuel stabilizer, battery tender, etc. This past summer was my 3rd on this boat and it starts up on the first try each and every time. Always enjoy your videos!
Sounds like you have a good set up Hoosier, nice! Thanks for watching.
Yamaha take note. Looks like a nice update. Thanks Captain Leon!
Thanks Sean, I appreciate that. Peace!
Thanks Captain Leon for another great episode. Here in CA dont need “long term storage” unless the boat really needs it.
Thanks Kool, you’re a lucky boater to be able to boat most of the year! Thanks for watching.
Year two watching this video. Thank you. Your videos are a huge help!
That's great to hear JF, thanks for your compliments. Peace brother.
Another well done video Leon! Thanks for the tips!!
Great video. Two questions:
1-) is Fogging the engine recommended even if you don’t winter store the boat? and how often? ( I boat all year in florida).
2-) how much do you spray the engine air intake? When do you know when to stop?
Tks
Let's ride, two great questions. Fogging is protection for long term storage, not necessarily just for winter. If you boat all year long I wouldn't worry about it. Secondly, I spray the fogging oil into the air intake in bursts for a minute or two emptying like half the can. I'm no professional, but this has worked well for me. Thanks for watching!
It's important to use antifreeze in the cockpit drains (don't know about this particular model, having a drain line freeze and crack in a Yamaha Exciter can ruin your day). Also, the antifreeze should be pumped in around the bilge pump and allow the pump to pump it out. Then there is the trailer...
You are correct man.
I can't believe yamaha doesn't mention it.
And of course all these boat nubes will read the manual and think that's the word of God.
Your car recommends an oil change every 15k, would you wait till 15k though?
Fck no.
Pour that antifreeze in, there's no way for all the water to exit the engine completely with these water cooled motors, you are absolutely correct any inboard, out board, jet boat or jet ski engine, unless it's closed loop coolant system, it's gonna need antifreeze. Period.
Anyone who wants to argue with that can put their foot in their mouth
Oh, I almost forgot! Great video Captain Leon, you never disappoint. BTW, you forgot to show us the coolant flushing part.
Nope didn't forget, thats why I mentioned and linked the more comprehensive video. Thanks for your kind words and thanks for watching!
Captain Leon, can you share a link to where you got the fogging oil extension hose?
I don’t recall exactly, but there are plenty of similar and perhaps better ones on Amazon, here is an example: Spray Can Replacement Straws Flexible Spray Can Straws Red Plastic Extension Straws, 51.1 Inches, 4 Count a.co/d/0W0sTX9
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore thank you!
Leo 14:50 .. you should run a compression test on each cyl just to know your spec right before you fog .. yamaha says minimum 121 psi ... your boat is getting up in age now and would be good to know your compression is still good ..could get a tester on amz for like 35$ .. perfect time while all plugs are out , crank for 7 seconds each cylnder with lanyard off and must be done with all plugs out ... even a step further is a boroscope camera to check on things in there another 35$ amz for basic one ... hey makes for good video !
Not bad advice. But still hitting over 40 mph and 7800 rpm. If compression was a bit low in one cylinder what would I do to correct it short of a complete rebuild of rings and head gasket? Not looking to do that..lol.
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore I hear ya .. but it's good to know and start a baseline . Do it make a video when you go to winterize next month while the plugs are out .I just did mine
@@jayd1008 Have a link for a good compression tool?
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore trying to post link but the one i got was on amazon prokomon tester kit 30$
another thing ... just install the new plugs at the end of fogging session .. so your ready for next season and dont have to pull them again .. remb 18.5 ftlbs
Hi Capin Leon,
first of all, I find your RUclips channel very informative and enjoyable. I am an owner of Yamaha 195FHS, purchased in 2022, and I also live in Long Island. Could you please let me know where I can purchase the spray nozzle staw? The one I bought from Amazon doesn't fit the Yamaha Fogging Oil Spray, so I couldn't use it. Can you provide information on where to buy the straw as shown in the video?
By the way, last year, while performing fogging oil with a short straw, it got sucked into the throttle body. ^^) Also, the 2022 model has a pan right in front of the throttle body, so when I turn on the engine, the fogging oil sprays out immediately. In such a case, how should I apply to fog oil?
Thanks Peter. So I don't remember where I got those straws, but my thought is that it should be universal with most cans. You need to apply good pressure to get the straw to insert into nozzle on the Yamaha can. Perhaps buy a different brand?
I see you have the supercharged engine, I'm not sure of the best way to fog that as mine is naturally aspirated. Perhaps check on the Yamaha forums? Good luck and thanks for watching!
This is excellent. I have a 2023 GP1800R HO. Same engine. Would you trust the dealer to be this thorough as the manual and service bulletin calls for? Where did you acquire the technical service bulletin? Im assuming you paid to download the service manual from somewhere online? Considering doing this myself so I know it's done correctly
Thank you sir, I believe the service manuals are available online at Yamaha's website. I got mine years ago, but regardless of cost try to acquire one, it's really good to have. Thanks for watching.
Hey Leon, where can I buy the extra long hose for fogging oil. Ty
Sam, I honestly don't remember, but I'm sure a google search should point you in the right direction. They are popular and available. Sorry about that, good luck.
Hey Leon, thanks for the video. Would this be about the same process for my Yamaha ar250 with the new 1.9 engines?
I imagine it's mostly the same. Supercharged engines are a bit different. Try to consult your manual or talk to your local shop. Either way it's not difficult to do yourself. Thanks.
Great video Cap'n.
Thank you sir!
If you turn the engine over without plugs, fuel is sprayed into cylinders without burning. Can this excess of old fuel left for several months in the cylinders cause some problems?
I turn the engine over for just a second with the lanyard pulled to prevent ignition. I'm not sure if fuel is injected, but if it is I'm sure it won't hurt. Great observation though!
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore I haven't tried with the kill switch off. Maybe this will cut off the fuel. I wish there was a mode like on Sea-Doo's.
That Pink RV/pool antifreeze is not for the use in an engine...and it states that on the container so not sure why you would use it and not use the proper antifreeze for engine use?
Eric, here is what I use: www.westmarine.com/west-marine--50f-engine-water-system-antifreeze-gallon-499848.html, read what it is designed for. Thanks for looking out and thanks for watching.
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore Well I stand corrected and Kudos to you...first person I've seen to not use the cheap RV antifreeze that turns to slush at 5*F. Though that product only protects to 14*F. I'd still use standard green 50/50 engine coolant.
How do you keep your engine bay so clean!
Steve, I'm careful when changing oil to not drip oil during removal of the filter. I also just get in there with towel and spray cleaner and clean the fiberglass bottom now and then. It stays pretty clean on its own too.
When fogging the motor what would be different that I'd have to do for an AR195? Do I have more items I'd need to remove?
Jeff Rose, I'm sure there are a few additional steps with the supercharger in the 195. I'm sorry but I'm not too familiar with it. Check on the forums perhaps.
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore will do, thank you so much
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore when you are placing the spark plugs back in do you torque them to a certain pound?
I really don't. In the spring after I burn off the fogging oil I end up changing them anyway. I'm not sure of what the torque setting on the plugs are, but I think it's only 15 lbs or so, it's not much. @@TheJeffrose1981
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore ok, thank you so much for your help. What's your opinion on fogging the motor with a supercharger? Is it ok for the fogging oil to go through the supercharger?
They think you dont have to use rv antifreese for these newer boats as if they dint have water cooling jackets thruought the engine and a waterbox filled with water in the exhaust system.
YES YOU NEED TO USE RV ANTIFREEZE.
Ive been winterizing, servicing and wrenching on skis, jet boats, outboards, inboards for over 15 years and none of these engines will allow all the water to drain entirely.
If someone tells you that you dont need rv antifreeze, unless its a closed coolant loop system and not water-cooled - then dont listen to em. I promise you do 👍
Thanks tg, yes I use antifreeze too.
what about ar192 supercharged are we fogging the supercharged or the intake that you showing us here ?
Yair, the procedures for the Supercharged engine is slightly different. I can send you the tech bulletin if you like, thanks for watching!
Thank you, Captain if you can just send me the guideline
@@bendaniel55 where should i send it? Email?
To my email address please thank you
@@bendaniel55 and what would that be? I don't have your email. I could direct message you on FB messenger too.
Where can I get a copy of the tech fogging bulletin?
I can email it to you if you like.
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore Hello Captain Leon! It is an honor to meet someone as yourself. My wife and I recently purchased a 2015 sx192 and am learning as much as possible about this boat being a newbie (older retired!) boat owner. Do you have a Tech Exchange for super charger winterization? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the great videos!
@@JoJo-bn6iy I only have an older Tech bulletin for fogging only. Sorry about that.
What size spark plug socket?
Should be 5/8.
Why not just spray in into the breather tube? Open the throttle a bit, and suck it in. That's what I'm going to do...
You can, but I always feel I would risk getting some on the air filter. I also wipe the inside of the air intake with a paper towel when I'm done as some usually drips to the bottom in there.
Yes, I did that for a couple of seasons and found that the airbox got soaked with fogging oil...