Godox FINALLY fixes trigger problems
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2023
- After years of photographers complaining to Godox about the AWB and WYSIWYG problems using their triggers, they finally came up with a fix, but they caused other problems in the process. Below are links mentioned in the video:
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Thank you Nathan. I will be waiting for a refresh version. I can't believe Godox would produce this with so many design glitches.
Thank you Nathan. It’s crazy that you have to spend money to replace something that should just do the job in the first place. I was hoping there would be a firmware solution, but clearly that isn’t possible. Appreciate all your effort to point out these things as always!!
Thanks David! I agree, and it's a shame they didn't do more.
As a semi- committed , new Godox user that has experienced many problems….. this left me more confused than ever.
Thanks for the update! We use the R2 Single Pin trigger in the hot shoe and keep the X Pro on a lanyard for actual power changes. By the way, if you have any clout with Godox, ask them to add a button that toggles all flashes off/on. Nice shortcut for ambient shots. Thanks again!
You're very welcome Scott!
Thank you for making this video! I never had this problem with the first generation X Pro N, because so far I had only used it with the Z9, which allows you to control the WYSISWYG aspect of the viewfinder even with a known flash attached. After watching this video I tested the X Pro N on my Z6II and Zfc, and as you reported you can't force the viewfinder to show ambient exposure. Good to be aware of this limitation. Thank you also for your reporting on the new locking mechanism, definitely looks like a deal breaker. You just saved me 120 euros!
You're very welcome, Sebastian! Glad this was useful.
Gracias!! Just ordered the Sony trigger using your link. Thanks for all your videos.
Your first video about the AWB issue with Godox triggers popped up in my recommended and you have finally solved my internal mystery of why I felt like I've been struggling with AWB ever since I switched to using Godox/Flashpoint. I never imagined that the trigger itself was causing it!
I think I may give this updated trigger a look, but as a stopgap and to save some money I have a TT350o that I bought for my Panasonic LX-100 that I can use as a commander on my Nikons to get around the "SB-900" issue. Only problems are I only get 3 groups and can't go below 1/128 using the mini flash as a commander.
While disappointing that this was the issue all along, thank you for the information and helping me finally solve this internal mystery!
I ground down all the pins except for the center, works great. I have the R2 mk2 that you say you don't recommend, but it is inexpensive, small, and easy to use. The quarter turn lock works well on all my Canons, in fact I prefer it. My speedlights have the screw down locks which like to jam.
Thank you for letting us know about this, especially the hotshoe tolerance issue. For that reason alone, I would not switch. A while ago I switched to the Godox XPro Cannon, to run on my Nikons. Very happy with them.
Thanks Jonathan, you're very welcome.
Great video! Super informative as always!
Thanks for the information. I too prefer the locking thumbwheel to the lever lock. My triggers fit securely on my cameras and my flashes attach securely to the variety of cold shoe adapters that I have on my lightstands.
You're very welcome Rick!
Have been playing around with one of these. Need to have a look at that hotshoe setting as am getting colour balance issues. Find the system (combined with x1r to control 580exii 's) to be a bit awkward to use. You have to get the flashgun settings absolutely right or it will not remote command the flash power settings, and will sometimes not fire at all. The other issue, is that the angle of the screen can also sometimes be difficult to read when the camera is on the tripod.
Very good review Nathan, thanks for this video. I have a question - I am assisting a couple of photographers that use the XPro I, and they are not yet too confident in setting the power for the external flash that I am handling. Therefore, I am constantly telling them what setting do they need for my flash. Is there a way for this trigger to override power setting communication so that I may manually set the external flash and keep it in that setting, even if the power setting on the XPro is different ? In other words, I want the flash power setting override the trigger power setting.
Enjoying the informative videos Nathan and will be ordering some of your books once I've figured out mirrorless a bit more. I have a quick question, on your advice, I bought an X-Pro N and a V1-C to use with an R8. In your opinion would the Canon app be good enough to work as a remote shutter trigger or should I buy one? If so any recommendations?
Thanks for championing this issue and keeping it in the frame! Can any Sony users verify if this make the WYSIWYG preview issue go away? ie. Able to use histogram to preview ambient exposure when the trigger is connected?
Godox! You are so close! Hopefully there will be a V2 which fixes the issues. But yea, I agree, why can't we just get a firmware update to add the lagacy hotshoe option.
Thanks Nathan, we appreciate your thorough review
My pleasure Bill, glad it was useful.
The AD’s are all over the place for the new Godox
Hi All; I tried all three methods on my Canon 6D mark ii and isolating the center pin is very inconsistent. I think it doesn't like to work with Live View. So I find that I have to turn live view on and off with my cam-ranger to get a look and then shoot. I hear that Canon is guilty of trying to force their customers to use proprietary flash equipment. Making it difficult to use the Vintage mode. I might just keep a cheat sheet on the color values for manual WB. Any other Canon users find a work-around for this issue?
So is the new trigger compatible with xtr16 1.0 to 3.0 power increment flashes like sk300 gen 1?I hate that my xpro only serves as trigger. Got a xt32 trigger and that one is universal works with all flashes new and old, you control power setting, modeling and sound. The mentality of the xpro that only works with gen II was disappointing
I have Fuji gfx and Nikon, it is interesting can I use Godox XProII-F for FUJIFILM Cameras with Hotshoe Locking mode for Nikon?
Thank you Nathan. I’ve been getting increasingly frustrated at my flashpoint trigger for Sony and the only other person that seems to have a work around is Robert hall but now that is not even working. My flash will go off but my exposure is still dark. I even updated the firmware (had to use my brother’s PC). Hopefully this new trigger is the solution I need
I was wondering if they had ever made an attempt to fix this issue you pointed out a long ago. Thanks for the update. I think I’ll just keep my Nikon trigger for my Canon camera!
You also mentioned the single person setting. I have that set up on my trigger and have a speed light by the camera on the stand, and also use a hand held AD200. How do I keep the trigger from overriding a power setting change I make on the AD200 from another location?
Thanks Leo. Glad this was helpful. The single-user setting prevents override on xPro triggers. BTW, as an aside, I cover this kind of stuff in great detail in my new course, not sure if you checked that out yet, here's more if you want to take a look: ProInteriors.NathanCool.com
So if I shoot with a Sony a7iv and original Godox X-Pro I, should I not have this color / AWB issue?
As i am using sony, i am still waiting for an update on the x-pro s triggers. The plastic connection is just crazy fragile, i have to replace/ repair it once in a while. For the v1 hot shoe sony mount you can already buy a metal replacement one. I would pay some money for a better engineered trigger i can tell you.. also i love all my godox flashes!
Does anyone know which pins in the OLD SONY x-pro version should be covered up so the flash(es) will still go off but not relay bad white balance information to the camera? There is no "center pin" on the Sony version, just a bunch of metal strips. I'd image specific strips need to be covered up. Thanks
You're best bet would be to just get this: amzn.to/3miCp1h
Nathan, Have you tested the Godox X2T- trigger for colour shift? I was hoping that I could mount a flash on top of it for smaller rooms/houses which would save lugging around a AD 200 on a stand. The new bluetooth smart phone connection would allow hand held flash release and adjustments which would be great.
If they have corrected the colour balance issue, I could uses a Panasonic branded trigger paired with my G-9. It would save me the extra height and "wobble" associated with the extra hot shoe isolating adapter I uses to prevent colour shift with my current X-Pro1 trigger.
It has the same new lock down mechanism which if it isn't snug would ruin my plan?
Thanks again for keeping up with the Godox issues better than they do themselves.
Now, about that hotshoe splitter...LOL! Does that allow you to use the Yongnuo as a camera trigger and the Xpro at the same time since you can't stack them? I have been struggling to figure out a way to mount the Yongnuo near or on the camera after upgrading from the Canon crappy Bluetooth remote...I was thinking a QR bracket to attach it to my L-bracket on the camera, but that splitter certainly looks neater to me!
You're welcome Joe! That's a hotshoe splitter amzn.to/40SqOGj BUT...you need to make sure you have the triggers set up properly. It's a simple piece of gear, and there are of course other ways to mount the triggers. BTW, I show various setups and use in my new course, not sure if you checked that out yet but here's a link if you want to take a look: ProInteriors.NathanCool.com
Interesting. I have to praise you for your solution about the white balance by using a different configuration trigger (Canon on a Nikon, etc). This is how I have been using it for years. I don't have the XPro trigger, but rather the X2 triggers, and i love the compact size of it. Plus, since it's a Canon trigger on a Nikon, I still retain the WYSIWYG.
Thanks Jon!
Update: My X2Tc started acting funny after a few years of work. Basically, it would randomly decide to change channels or IDs and wouldn't fire the flash when using the test button. All in all I upgraded to the XPro2 for the Nikon and really do love it! The bulk took a bit to get used to, but it's not that much and I get to read the display easier compared to a X2T display. The hot shoe fit isn't a problem with my gear, thankfully.
Thanks Nathan, can I ask about that 2 into 1 mount. I can't pass through my xpro trigger via my yongnuo remote on my fuji. Is it a generic brand or one in particular. Thanks for all your advice, regards.
You're very welcome David. That's a hotshoe splitter amzn.to/40SqOGj BUT...you need to make sure you have the triggers set up properly. It's a simple piece of gear, and there are of course other ways to mount the triggers. BTW, I show various setups and use in my new course, not sure if you checked that out yet but here's a link if you want to take a look: ProInteriors.NathanCool.com
@@NathanCoolPhoto many thanks, Dave
thank you for the insight...there is the "older flash"..the GODOX X2T..which at the time was obviously newer than the X1 and the GODOX X PRO..do you recommend the GODOX X2T instead of this "updated" X PRO?..I am leaning towards the GODOX X2T..bc it seems like a blend of both flashes the old X1 and XPRO as far as looks and design..plus I like the fact that the X2 has that extra hot shoe on top of it..so incase you want to put another on camera flash on top..which is a nice subtle option..thank you
You're very welcome! I do recommend this trigger, and the alternatives I mentioned...links to everything recommended in the description of the video.
I've tried the single pin isolation with my Sonys... never got it to work, might give this new Godox a try since my white balance is almost always an issue
This solves that!
Where can I buy that center pin adapter thingy? I've been using tape and it slides off sometimes and makes a mess. Thanks!
See links in the description for the video at ruclips.net/video/Nm4nZxUc2e0/видео.html
Nathan I just checked on my Z9 re: the WYSIWYG issue. Z9 has custom setting D10 View Mode -> Show Effects Of Settings -> Always option (instead of "Only when flash is used"). That stops the live view from going to 'adjust for ease of viewing' whenever the flash is turned on. It's not a Godox issue - it also happens with a genuine Nikon speedlight.
Hopefully the other camera bodies have this custom option.
That's great! Although that won't stop the AWB issue. Also, if you're going with a newer camera like the Z9, then the newer Godox trigger would be a very small add-on investment, allowing you to use its new legacy-hotshoe option for any circumstance where you don't want to the trigger to interfere with the camera's intelligence.
I've been using my Nikon Xpro on my A7III, works great! I'll keep my cash in my pocket as well. Thanks Nathan!
You're very welcome Mark! Glad this was helpful.
Please clarify (w Sony) under what situations to use the option off vs on. Thank you.
Neither if you use this: amzn.to/3miCp1h
I have a godox XT2 trigger (Fuji) - but I now have Nikon Z5 camera. I had thought I could (and should use off brand triggers) but
cannot get the trigger to work on my camera (with TT600 speedlite). Do I have to get a Nikon trigger? or is this just user error?
Based on your review Nathan, I think I will just order the XPro C and see it that will work with my camera
Hey Nathan. Got this trigger and loving it.. I love using the app to change the strobes power when away from the camera (hiding in another room) etc. I am having an issue with this legacy mode that my over 1/160 shutter speed, my shutter is partially blocking the shot. Am I doing anything wrong? Thanks in advance
This sometimes happens when either your camera is not truly closing shutter at synch speed, or there is a delay between the, camera-to-trigger and/or trigger-to-lights. If you have an older camera that has a synch speed at 1/200 sec., then it could be possible that it drags slightly, thus you see the best results at a slower shutter (1/160). This also happens when batteries are getting low in the trigger and/or lights. Also, if you are using rechargeable batteries in the trigger then try swapping them out with regular batteries and see if that helps as well.
@@NathanCoolPhoto using sony a7r4 with alkaline batteries in the trigger... Very odd...
Thanks Fort he reply. You are truly great!!!
You're very welcome. In their manual they recommend alkaline batteries, likely because the trigger is sensitive to the difference in voltage. Most rechargeable batteries have a slightly lower voltage then standard alkaline batteries, so it's like having a constantly low battery in the trigger, causing the lag with shutter sync.
Mine (S) introduced a new problem: TTL only works for group A, B, and C. Pressing the Mode-button when in group D or E, you only get M or Off. No TTL.
I've heard others mention that as well, but for REP you shouldn't be using TTL or HSS; in fact, I don't recommend TTL for any flash work. I talk about this in my Lighting Guide, here's a link if you'd like to check that out: amzn.to/3EYF2M8
So if we utilise the single pin Method does this then make TTL and HSS both unusable ? Thanks?
That's correct. But for real estate photography neither TTL nor HSS should be used. These are some of the basics covered in my lighting guide, here's a link if you'd like to check that out: amzn.to/3EJEiKG
Thank you, Nathan, I really enjoy your videos. I have a Sony A77II and with the old Godox XPro trigger I have had the AWB issues you have described. The Wysiwyg has not been a problem since with "setting effect on" I can see a bright image (as it would be shot with a flash) and then see added ambient as I change the exposure. I tried the pin isolation but then the camera no longer recognized the flash and the "setting effect" no longer worked (or alternatively if I turn setting effect off the Wysiwyg no longer works). I just received the new Godox XProIIS trigger and it seems I have the same problem: The setting effect does not work if I switch to legacy hotshoe and the screen is dark at normal flash shutter speeds. Do you have any ideas? Thank you! (by the way, the plastic lock seems to fit my camera hot shoe, no wobbling so far)
I think you might be doing "Setting Effect" backward. On=WYSIWYG, while OFF=See bright image assuming flash will fire. Make sure "Setting Effect" is set to On, and that the XProIIS has "Legacy Hotshoe" enabled.
@@NathanCoolPhoto Thanks so much for your reply! With setting effect set to On and "legacy hotshoe" enabled the live view does indeed get brighter or darker if I change the exposure. But at say 1/125 in a darkish room the live view is all black. If I turn "legacy hotshoe" off however, and setting effect On then the baseline image in live view is bright and once I increase ambient sufficiently that it is right of center on the histogram, then it gets brighter with increasing ambient (which is ideal, because I can see the image to frame it and also decide what shutter speed I need to get a good ambient). It looks like I will have to switch back and forth between legacy hotshoe on and off to get the right AWB and a useable Liveview....
That is expected behavior for the flambient workflow (using "Setting Effect" to ON, and enabling "Legacy Hotshoe"). For the flambient workflow you want to expose ambient for ETTR on the histo , but then, like you were saying with the faster shutter speed, you also need to see where ambient falls off before taking the flashed shot; thus, WYSIWYG in both cases (and for other footage), but they are just handled differently. This though is exactly what you want to see, but I'm not sure if you're familiar with the workflow that shows this step by step (and why), so would like to suggest taking a look at my online course that shows this in great details, here's a link if you want to check that out: prointeriors.nathancool.com
@@NathanCoolPhoto Ok, thank you!
hi, great explanation of the new trigger... what is the product with the flash and camera trigger on it? can you link to that product on Amazon, if I understand correctly it is a single pin collection?
That's a hotshoe splitter amzn.to/40SqOGj BUT...you need to make sure you have the triggers set up properly. It's a simple piece of gear, and there are of course other ways to mount the triggers. BTW, I show various setups and use in my new course, not sure if you checked that out yet but here's a link if you want to take a look: ProInteriors.NathanCool.com
@@NathanCoolPhotothank you 😊
Hi Nathan, thank you for everything! The only thing I do not understand is how you are triggering your camera and flash. I'm ready to buy an AD200Pro, I have a canon dslr... I'm an Premier editor so I have CC... but I don't think the Canon RC-6 will also trigger the flash. Can you please clarify or point me to the info? Thanks Thanks.
Thanks! There are a number of ways to go but I go through this in-depth in my interiors course at ProInteriors.NathanCool.com You can also find information on this in my interiors book at amzn.to/3JXU5It
Hi Nathan, Thanks for the insight on the new trigger. I was wondering if you had a link to the dual hot shoe you had mounted on your camera holding both triggers. Additionally, what was the trigger you were using to trip the shutter? I've been using the software app for my camera but it seems to been too clumsy and runs my phone battery down before I'm finished with my shoot.
You're very welcome Todd. That's just a hot shoe splitter like this one amzn.to/3RQcZDR For trigger setups, it depends on your camera but I break that down in amzn.to/3lswzKx and in much more detail in prointeriors.nathancool.com
@@NathanCoolPhoto Thank you so much!
@@NathanCoolPhoto Thank you for all you do. With respect to that splitter did you choose the canon since you shoot Nikon to get that single pin isolation?
I could have, but I just use the Nikon version...I have a Canon xPro trigger that I normally use on a Z5.
@@NathanCoolPhoto gotcha. Thanks so much!
I just purchased the XPro2 for my Panasonic Lumix S5. With the legacy mode on for single pin, I still do not have WYSIWYG. Is there a setting I might be missing. Thanks
From what I understand, Panasonic is the exception with the XPro2. Not sure if Godox has plans to fix that, until then, you'll need to turn the power off on the trigger, then turn it back on to start firing flashes.
@@NathanCoolPhoto Thanks for the quick reply. Darn my luck!
Godox has released the Xnano, how do you think it compares to the XPro II? Also, I bought the virtual tour book! Thank you
Your video did me a huge favour in a different way. The Canon mirrorless cameras usually turn off Exposure Simulation when you attach a trigger and turn it on. After watching your video I thought I'd try my relatively new R7 with a hotshoe adapter I'd bought which is designed to let legacy flashes work with Canon's new digital multifunction hotshoe. I thought I'd try the trigger without first and then with the adapter.
The new Canon hotshoe leaves Exposure Simulation on, even when attaching and turning on a Godox X-ProC trigger. The crazy thing is that with the adapter, Exposure Simulation is turned off, as per usual. So it appears Canon has fixed this issue with the new hotshoe itself.
It's not just Godox. Most, if not all triggers usually turn off Exposure Simulation. I'm guessing it's because in a dark studio environment you would see nothing if you had Exposure Simulation turned on at shooting settings.
With the Sony a7iv. I have been using the godox xpro a d the plastic shoe on the bottom is the worst. The trigger barely fits into my hotshoe. I have contacted Godox and Im waiting for a response. Smh
I wonder if it's physically possible to make the original XPro triggers do this SP isolation with a firmware change? That way we'd have the superior original trigger with the added functionality we all need. Any hackers out there who can do firmware modifications?
Yes, it is entirely possible. I used to be an engineer :) I know that can be done.
what is that cord u have going from the trigger to the camera body?
That's part of the two-trigger setup, more on that in amzn.to/3GjphjA
I’m so tired of these issues with my flash. I want to just ditch my godox stuff and get a proper set up that works all the time. Do you have any recommendations?
I hear ya, but I still use Godox. For the price and reliability it's worth fiddling with a few nits like this, and any "smart" trigger will cause these issues (Godox isn't alone here). I know it's frustrating, but all you need to do is just isolate the center pin on an xPro trigger and you're set. Not sure if you've seen other videos I've done on this, but here's a recent one that could help ruclips.net/video/Nm4nZxUc2e0/видео.html
Your videos are the best out there.
Wow, thanks!
Hey, I wanted to ask you if you know the new godox x3 has legacy hotshoe? Thanks
No. Since it's the same price as what I show in this video, I' can't recommend the X3, for additional reasons as well. Perhaps another video on this?
@@NathanCoolPhoto thanks alot, have a good evening
I'm reading your 'Virtual Tour Photography for Real Estate' book and got to the page that explains the WB issue with triggers. It sort of puts me off Godox altogether, including their AD200Pro, and makes me wonder if there's another vendor solution that simply works. Nathan, can you recommend any others because it feels wrong in my wallet to pay out for a flash unit only to have to not be able to trust their trigger? I'm using a Sony a7 IV, if that makes a difference.
I still recommend Godox. It took them a while to address this issue but there were always workarounds, and now they have a trigger that addresses it directly. Godox lights are all that I use. They last a long time, they are inexpensive, and they are very reliable.
@@NathanCoolPhoto Thanks Nathan. I’m really enjoying your book and videos.
Why Nikon transmitters have just Ch A, B and C in TTL mode, E and F are always just in manuale mode in Nikon version? Canon and Sony can hale all Channels in TTL! Also with this new XPROII, I have read it on its manual found in their web site. Thanks.
Is this issues also found on the X2T N trigger?
If you have one you can test it, here's an older video on how to do that: ruclips.net/video/RCQO24hcjMo/видео.html
Hi Nathan. What a pity. Still I would rather have problems with AWB than with lack of hss. But it bugs me all the time...
Hi Nathan! Congrats on your channel! This is the first time I write you in comments, and I’m quite desperate. The thing is I shoot sony with a V1 + xpro Godox setup for real estate. I’ve been encountering the same issue since I bought them. I shoot a bracketing (5) and then I switch on the trigger and shoot a flash shot. Every time I do so my f number gets changed randomly without me doing anything. I checked everywhere and updated firmware but never got any different results. What could be causing that? Thanks a lot! Maybe any sony users have a solution! ❤
Thanks! But there's a lot you are doing wrong...no need for ambient brackets, and it's likely you have some kind of auto mode (shutter priority possibly) that is changing your aperture. I'd recommend downloading my interiors e-book which covers some of these basics, here's a link if you'd like to check that out: amzn.to/41hi6Bu
Thanks for your reply! I appreciate your feedback on no brackets! I however don't use any priority mode! I use M mode only. It's right after the shot that the F number changes for unknown reasons to me. Thanks for the link! I'll definitely check that out! 🙌🏻
In that case then there is only one thing that could be happening: Your camera is detecting a flash device in the hotshoe (i.e., your trigger), and since you are shooting a bracket, the camera is changing the aperture, since shutter speed doesn't have any effect on the amount of flashed light received by the sensor. My suggestion is be twofold: (1) do not shoot in brackets, there is no need to. This will ensure aperture doesn't change. (2) Use the single-pin isolation mode I talk about in this video by using the new trigger and enabling "Legacy Hotshoe" in the menu.
Wondering also if an alternative Trigger system such as the PocketWizard Plus IIIe would work without any of the issues you encountered with the Godox trigger/s?
You could certainly try it, just make sure to obtain center-pin isolation. There are easier ways to go about it though like I show in amzn.to/3JTXclF
Morning Nathan. A great video, I'm glad you did it. I saw Godox answering a question on either Twitter or Instagram yesterday about this new trigger, and basically not giving the person any real info at all. It's a shame that Godox who has changed the photographic industry in terms of gear that the normal person can afford.... decides to cheap out with what looks like a garage upgrade. If not for your video, I don't think many would know all the bad "updated" changes. Yup, those buttons not being aligned, the locking mechanism, and for me, the kicker - their continued use of what looks like 1970s LCD panel display. Let's be honest, it's terrible. This "upgrade" is nothing more than a firmware update for the flash pins, and they are trying to sell it as a brand new product. I'd like to see a better product from them in the future. 🚨 ⚠BTW, you didn't mention the battery meter ⚠ - this is the #1 complaint on all the photographic board with the Godox devices... the battery level indicator is just wrong all-the-time. I'm willing to bet this has not been corrected. Throw in brand new rechargeable batteries and it doesn't show a full charge. - IF this hasn't been fixed, it truly shows they just want to get another new version of this thing out there. It's a like a fast food joint ... they sell a hamburger... oh... how can we create yet another "new " version of this ? ah ! we'll add cheese and bingo, we now have a new item to sell. Anyway, great video. You are a great instructor ! - you never assume a viewer knows something, and you show us all the steps - and THAT is the mark of a good instructor. ( I love your videos, they are just great ) Thank you Nathan.
Yes. Good point about the battery indicator not working with rechargeable batteries.
Thank you! Glad this was helpful. And I do hope Godox gets the memo and takes a hint ;)
@@NathanCoolPhoto Yes ! let's hope ! Thanks for the reply Nathan ! 🙂
For more on the battery indicator issue, they specify in their manuals that Ni-MH batteries will give false low readings, so they recommend alkaline batteries. For instance, see page 26 at www.godox.com/static/upload/file/20220221/1645436636226427.pdf
@@NathanCoolPhoto Thanks for the link Nathan.
Do you know if godox fixed the TTL issue in canon mirrorless?
Good question, but since TTL isn't used for real estate photography, and since I don't use (or recommend) TTL for my other work, I can't say. But you might want to check their release notes, here's a link to their firmware updates that might help: godox.com/firmware-control-system/
@@NathanCoolPhoto thanks appreciate the link 👍🏽
First of all thank you a lot for your great input Nathan. I am using Godox for years. I used the older Triggers like the xt16 that has no ttl etc. Has anybody tried that? I sold mine to a friend an try to test it.
You're welcome! No need to use an older trigger, this one will fit the bill, and you can also use the other alternative methods I show in my books on also in prointeriors.nathancool.com
The white balance issue was so stupid. I shoot Sony and had to swapped to canon trigger to get around this unnecessary waste of $100 but it worked well
Thanks! Of course I bought my trigger before seeing this!
One thing, I hope it's a defective trigger, it will NOT trigger an xPlore 600 (firmware 1.9, the latest) from the shutter button! If I punch the flash button on the trigger, the 600 will flash at full power, then ONE shutter flash, then nothing. The vendor swears it's the xPlore 600 and I should upgrade the firmware.... I have another older trigger, works just fine.
If anyone in Nathan Cool RUclips land has a solution, I'd love to hear it!
I'd have to agree, I think it's likely the firmware version of the XPLR600. Like you said it works with an "older" trigger, not the "new" one, so the first thing to try is to upgrade the firmware and see if that fixes it.
Nathan - I went ahead and bought the XPro II - I’ve used the original XPro for some time and not isolated the center pin and yes, color casts the plenty. I shoot a Canon 6D MK II and usually use live view to frame, expose, etc. unfortunately it seems you cannot use the center pin isolation feature when using live view, weird yes, but true. If you want to isolate the center pin, you cannot use live view.
Sounds like you might have something else not set correctly, I haven't heard of that problem with the 6D.
@@NathanCoolPhoto Not sure what it could be, 6D MK II - when in live view, legacy mode on the flash will not fire. Live view off, flash fires. Legacy mode off, flash fires with live view on or off.
Disable silent live view, see ruclips.net/video/q4NFf2EkhRM/видео.html
just got the XPRoII - tapped it against a wall during it's first shoot - nothing major - minor tap and the whole screen went haywire - no backup - major PITA
Sounds like you should avoid tapping our trigger against walls :)
How hard is this for Godox? Frustrating. I have the xtpro2 and it’s not letting me change the flash setting from the flash. It’s only letting me do it from the trigger. I have the same locking on mine and it has fallen off once when I thought it was locked.
xtpro2? Was that a typo?
@@NathanCoolPhoto yes, x2t-s ttl
That is not my recommended trigger. Since I assume you have a Sony camera, I'd recommend getting the Sony version of the new zProii trigger and enabling "Legacy Hotshoe" like I show in this video. Here's a link to the Sony trigger: amzn.to/3HNHvcU
@@NathanCoolPhoto thank you very much! I’m going to go and get it now.
Strange never seen any of the problems you mention. Haven’t tried the new one. I have no problems with the one I have so why buy a new and more expensive one. I use the Olympus version I don’t know if that makes a difference.
Hi Kim, here's an earlier video describing the problem: ruclips.net/video/Nm4nZxUc2e0/видео.html
I use the Flashpoint R2 Single Pin trigger, more basic but works without the white balance issues, $24.95
I don't recommend the R2SP trigger for a variety of reasons, including override, here's my video on that: ruclips.net/video/e_A0ipqtZBM/видео.html
@@NathanCoolPhoto definitely, you give a clear discussion of the differences there. Appreciate the useful information you put out!
For a new to flash & Sony user…. X2T or Xpro II ?
This: amzn.to/3kNo9NE
@@NathanCoolPhoto thx, I prefer the form factor of the X2T, but the few extra features of the Pro II seem to match up with the $30 price diff. Thx!
Owned 3 Xpro for Sony. All the hotshoe mount broke, and the battery lid can drop very easily. Very very bad design.
The interface also very confusing.
What's worse the bottom mount broke while I took all the way overseas to cover an EVENT, and boy, it really RUINED my overseas trip/event!!!
Now I owned Xpro II, which is much better and improved.Not sure if it will break or not
dang, why'd they change the collar!
I know...right?
Sony does have a center pin and uses it to trigger the flash… you showed a picture of it. Why use AWB when using flash? Just set the WB to flash or a manual K. I’m not sure about other bands, but Sony has a setting to disable the flash preview so that you can view the ambient. Also goldox sells a center pin only flash for like $25 at adorama which is fully compatible (but no HSS) with all the godox wireless flashes.
H Brad, it sounds like you might have missed some important parts of this video. Sony, besides having a center pin, uses edge connectors for its peripheral, intelligence pins, shown in this video. I also discuss turning the trigger off, perhaps you missed that part of the video too. As for the R2SP trigger you mentioned, it is limiting and has other issues, which I don't recommend. Here's my video on that trigger: ruclips.net/video/e_A0ipqtZBM/видео.html And, another thing that could help is amzn.to/3jSxZ0u which goes into detail about using triggers like these for REP.
OMG!!! FINALLYYYYYYYY
In addition to that stupid twist lock mechanism made of plastic and shitty tolerance, it also makes the trigger taller compared to the screw type versions. I also prefer the X2T version, because that XProII keep getting caught by everything because it's bulky. Other forum members complain about it too. I am now using my old X1T until Godox makes a better hotshoe or revert to the screw lock design. Sure the extra controls and features are nice, but do you really need them all? We survived flash photography without these new triggers.. Hell I used modded Cactus V2s for a long time with great success. It seems now everything is becoming easier for the millennials to survive everyday life.
the thing I am missing most is a back button. In a hurry I often forget how to go back. Especially with the supper shitty strobo mode, really no one needs
Hmmmm....I don't recall any of the triggers having a back button. Using the "Set" or "Menu" button should take you back to the last menu item. Since you don't need HSS, there should be no need to access the menu except for initial configuration, but not during the workflow, unless there's something else in the workflow you're doing?
in a stressfull shoot the trigger gets a bang and gets in funky multimode. I think set is not going back then. I just remove the batteries.
besides this, the godox trigger is the most reliable one I ever used. All the others are much worse in my experience.
In that case, you've very likely bumped the "Mode" button. When you don't have a group selected, pressing the Mode button will put the entire trigger into a different mode. Just press the Mode button again. Note that this new xProii trigger has a Lock feature on the Mode button, just long press to lock it.
So the X pro is fine as long as you don't use AWB?
No. It also affects WYSWIG views on mirrorless cameras. But the new trigger has a mode to fix that (see links in description).
@@NathanCoolPhoto Ok thanks. Are you going with the new trigger or sticking to the old one with work around?
the new lock really sucks, I prefer the older screw-in one, my V860III using this lock once broke and lock the flash on the camera
If only they'd fix the issue with hss not workinng at all with Panasonic Lumix cameras.
Thank you Nathan! The white balance issue has been resolved! I bought a trigger for Fuji. I take pictures with my Canon camera myself. ***
But there was another issue. I'd like to tell you about it. Maybe it will be helpful for someone. I take pictures with a Canon 5D Mark II camera, using the X2T trigger for Canon cameras. I have two flashbulbs: Godox AD200 PRO and Canon Speedlite 580EX II (it works through the receiver: Godox X1 RC). Apart from the problem with white balance, this set works without problems. The minimum flash sync speed is 1/200 sec. After replacing the original trigger with a Fuji compatible one, the Canon Speedlite 580EX II flash now has a minimum shutter speed of 1/100 second. The Godox AD200 PRO flash continues to work as before, with a shutter speed of 1/200 sec. The same effect can be seen if all contacts except for the central one are blocked in the trigger for a Canon. Everything works the same way on the Canon 90D camera as well.
You're very welcome! The problem you're seeing is due to "trigger-lag": a delay in the signal through an adapter, in this case the X1 RC you're using on your Canon speedlight. In the old days when one would have to use Pocket Wizards or Cactus triggers since most lights didn't have built-in triggers, trigger-lag was common, so you'd be lucky to get 1/160 sec to work without shutter curtain. The solution in your case is super simple: just buy a cheap Godox TT600 and use that instead of your Canon speedlight, like this one: amzn.to/42V6kxG
@@NathanCoolPhoto Nathan, thank you for your detailed answer! As always, everything is clear and to the point.
I use Godox for many good reasons; but, these faux pas disappoint me to no end. Godox is praised for innovation (although a lot is just reconfiguration of existing ideas) yet someone on the team, with veto power; and, who doesn't 'get it', is reducing great ideas and innovation into nonsense. And I doubt this person has any professional photography experience at all. They just happen to be in a position of power and allowed to screw things up. Sounds familiar.
I agree, although after enough photographers complained about the AWB and WYSIWYG issue, they did come out with this version with legacy hotshoe. I would also love to see a better hot shoe connector.
My Sony A6400 has a very tight fit with my X Pro..