Rabea Massaad, please help. gettin crazy. i use an an 8 Plug Harley Benton Power plant which Works realy fine with all my boss and mxr bass pedals. but when i connect any mooer pedal it starts gettin noisy. why? can you give an advice please. Thank you.
Karim Ayadi What Mooer pedal is it? The larger HB power plant is not fully isolated (just filtered, the HB power plant junior has superior isolation). You can get individual magnetic isolation adaptors from Diego, but they do limit the ampage supplied, which may not be enough for a power hungry digital Mooer! Hope this helped!
I own a modded vintage Roger Mayer Classic Fuzz which had an indicator LED and AC input added to it. So far I use a daisy chain from a One Spot power supply for all my other pedals, which actually works well, and a separate (cheaper) one with a polarity reverse adapter for the fuzz. The fuzz is pretty noisy and I don't know if it's the vintage pedal itself, the added AC input jack or the cheap power supply. But with a power block like these, can I use a regular output and just keep using the adapter? because it didn't work in my daisy chain, it reverse the whole chain... Thanks and love your videos and the music, keep it coming! \m/
Not really it's important to empathise the use of good quality and more importantly safe power supplies. A quick Google search will show you the reality of cheep and dangerous power supplies.
I've never had any issued with it but I run a very basic pedal setup, only a tuner, overdrive, noise gate and a delay. If I was running something more complicated I'd definitely upgrade to a voodoo labs or T Rex power supply or something along those lines
Definitely not sponsored by vodoo lab, the best power supply company in the world, provinding the quietest power supplies for pedalboards all over the world. (Sorry for bad english)
I own both the CS7 and 12 and can power Strymon (mobius, timeline), Eventide H9, Roger Linn III, Line 6 M5, Roland Gr30, Zoom G3 &G3n, and many more like Boss, Disaster Area Designs, MusicomLab EFX ii, Digitech Jam Man Soloist XT, AMT SS-20, Egnater Goldsmith, Xotic Effects, DOD, Mooer, EHX, MXR, and the list goes on. I owned the digital from Voodoo Lab but my setup needed additional ma which the digital could not meet. You can't go wrong with the Truetone 1SPOT PRO CS7 and CS12.
I've been using four cheapo (but actually very good)power supplies on my pedalboard for a while now, one of which daisychains 5 pedals. I've found that although there is a little noise, it's not a major problem. In fact, the pedals themselves make more noise even when on their own power supply, and the daisy chain has actually worked better than a power supply on its own.
A friend of mine insisted me to buy a good power supply instead of a noise gate. Now I know the reason why my chain turned so noisy, using a chinese ac adapter with multiple pedal input adapters. Thanks Rabea!!! Pretty informative. GREETINGS from Chile !!
Bea is spot on. I have a Behringer Digital delay/reverb, an Ibanez tube screamer and a ditto looper Not much, I know, and the delay is purely for 1 very fast delay turned back for a slight double track effect. Only used for 1% of what it can do but It sounds great in blues lead. I only play blues I wont insult your intelligence and tell you what the screamer is for. I was daisy chained from one supply and had a hiss from the Tube screamer. I had wanted one for ages and never got round to it. It pissed me off so much I took it out. Such a lovely green colour too :) Nothing I cant create on the Fender Bassbreaker anyhow so I kept the delay because I love that fast 1 repeat Anyways, I put the screamer back in without the delay and was amazed to find it was a quiet as a mouse. Its the 3 running from one supply. I had a spare supply, and the hiss is negligible with 2 seperate supplies. The ditto is still daisy to one other pedal. The PSU's are just crap Chinese tat anyhow. I will look at better supplies if I expand to a 4th pedal. (Top Tip. Put the pedals after the guitar and the ditto in the effects in/out) Great video Bea
The 9v daisy chain method works for me and I run a tuner, wah, overdrive, distortion, eq, 2 delays, tremolo, and ditto looper. It doesn't get noisy, it's actually really quiet.
Yeh I use a 6 way daisy chain too, it's ok for my marshall pedals, bluesbreaker 2, edward the compressor, regenerator....and my ditto, ehx #1 echo. But it doesn't quite have the power to run a ehx B9 organ pedal at the same time as 4 or 5 other pedals without the B9 being noisy, so I could do with a cheap alternative to the voodoo labs cos I can't afford £100+ for a power supply nor would I spend that even if I had the money, so I might have a look at the harley benton.
What I'm also trying to say is that according to your situation/pedals your are running, you might not need an expensive PSU. Try your rig with an inexpensive 9v/Dixie chain method first and maybe you might save yourself enough money to buy another effect pedal lol
I have a Stagg 9v brick with daisy chain (bought from Andertons) and I haven't noticed excess noise. Guess it depends on the pedals, amp and electrics where you are.
Beyrin Hernandez I've used a boss PSA adapter and daisy chain for years with no complaints. Tuner, compressor, overdrive, fuzz, chorus, phaser, noise gate and wah on one supply! If I use my Dunlop power supply (similar rating) I have mild noise problems. I suppose it makes a difference which one you use.
Hey Rabea. Good video. I bought an ISO5, mainly because they advertised isolated power channels and had an 18v output. I use EMG actives in some guitars and instead of using batteries inside the guitar, I use an EMG ES-918 18v power pack, which stands in between the guitar and the FX/amp in signal chain. EMG do not recommend any external powering of this unit but do have a power socket built into the power pack strangely enough. Using their ES-918, EMG recommend only using batteries inside the pack. In my small home studio environment I use the ISO5 to power the EMG power pack to the active guitars. I also power the ISO5 through a Furman M-10x E which helps clean up the power supply at the start. While EMG speculate I would get interference using external powering to their power pack unit, the ISO5 is good enough to provide a clean power supply and keep the noise out. Believe it or not. BTW, my home circuitry is not top quality, and I do get noise in some areas of my home.... So yes, based upon my own experience, Voodoo Labs provide a good product.
Cioks power supplies are damn good, I'm running a board with 15 pedals (incl. 2 Strymons) plus a Boss ES-8, 3 MIDI auxiliary loopers and a MIDI splitter, all powered by 3 Cioks units and I only get serious noise if I run the high gain channel on my amp with my Tube Screamer and my Whammy DT together, and I think that's mostly because the Whammy is situated directly on top of the highest output PSU, the Cioks DC-10, TS off: no more problem. (I should mention I use a noise suppressor when using the high gain channel on my amp, but with it off it's really not much noisier than using the amp by itself, no more than you'd expect, less than I expected when I built the thing.)
i also have 15 pedals on my board (plus tuner, no strymons though) and use one cioks dc-10 to power them. how? i daisy chain most of the drive pedals from two of the high mA outputs with those split flex cables. zero noise issues ever. but my board is also a solid metal tool drawer so the psu and most its cables are semi-isolated underneath. that being said, anyone can be unlucky and have noise /hum in their rig, can be so many things. but a good power supply def helps. just bought a voodoo lab 4x4 for a friend which i look forward to testing out before i hand it over.
Dude congrats on jamming with Gilbert! It was the most amazing thing to see and witness how far you've come as a player and that performance cemented the fact that you are an absolute force in the guitar world. I have never seen someone jam that well with him in my life and you are easily becoming one of the most talented players in the universe. Much respect bro!!! \m/
I use the Gig Rig generator and distributors. The problem with Voodoo Labs power supplies (or any power supplies apart from Gig Rig stuff) for me, is that you can only power a certain amount of pedals with each unit. With the Gig Rig, you can draw up to 5 amps of isolated current, any volt or polarity using their distributors, and you'll never run out of outputs.
Before you completely write them off, batteries are the cleanest source of power available for audio and will never cause noise. You can also use rechargeable Li-Ion batteries for this purpose.
Batteries are "quietly" destroying the Earth. RnR is killing the birds. Tattoos and Afros are an abomination. Other than that I really liked this excellent 'info-mercial'. AC is of course Alternating Current as opposed to DC/Direct Current/battery current. If you use both AC & DC, Back-in-Black will sound proper.
Martin Krauser yeah but by the time you've replaced a bunch of them you could've just bought a voodoo pedal power. Especially if you play alot. With a pedal power I can leave all my pedals hooked up and not have to worry about battery drain if my band takes a week or two off and I don't get back to my board for a bit. It has its advantages. To me it's worth the price tag.
i used to use 3 daisy chains hooked together off of one 9V power adaptor powering 9 pedals, and honestly it wasnt bad at all, the only thing that suffered was my fuzz. Everyone said "dont use that it sucks" and having a proper power supply now is good, but it wasnt any where near as bad as everyone thought it would be.
I still have my original Voodoo Lads Pedal Power. Not the PP2 the predecessor to that and it has been on the board for almost 20 years no problems. I added a second one later. I love them
The "noise" demonstrated at :32 of the video was actually amp feedback that has absolutely nothing to do with the power supply. It was a funny bit, but it also set up a false expectation of what a good power supply will actually do for you. It will not eliminate 60 cycle hum from single coil pickups either. What a world class isolated power supply *will* do is eliminate ground loops and feed the clean power pedals require to sound and perform their best.
Personally, when I had a pedalboard, I used CHIOKS supplies. Why.. Because they are the most versatile PSU's out there When I had big TC (flashback) delays, with some SiB FX 'CUDA overdrive and other stuff, the CIOKS was the only thing that had enough outputs with high enough amp to power it all. Check them out, Danish design and quality.
Helped find this weirdly faint repeat sound ( yes more so on high gain) I used his troubleshoot method and the delay was the culprit. Even off or disengaged it would continue ( no I don’t have infinity tails on either ). It’s really old. Thanks!!!
I've been rocking the Pedaltrain Volto for my needs. I am only running analog pedals from it and usually no more than 5 pedals. It lasts for about 5 hours with my pedal board and I don't have to add an extension cord to trip over on stage. It makes set up so much easier, HOWEVER, you just have to make sure its fully charged before the gig.
I use a 9v wall adapter with a daisy chain. Its completely silent. Supports all my pedals and does Ac/DC current and supplies upto 1750mah. Very happy with it.
Most people dont know that Truetone has the 1 Spot Pro CS-7 and CS-12 that are TRUE isolated power supplies and theyre much cheaper. I got the CS-12 for $150. It does all this and more including TWO 18v outputs AND TWO 4v-9v adjustable voltage outputs. I run 11 pedals off it with zero issues.
Hi Rabea, great video demo regarding pedals etc. What l noticed is your 2 Peavey 5150 heads, l remember selling mine to the captain for you many years ago. Cool to see this in the background 🙏🎶🎸🎸 Keep rocking great music too my friend 👌👌
I've been using an EBS 9 volt powersupply with a daisy chain for years and it has worked fine all this time. No excessive noise, certainly nothing like you had in the video.
I have a digital reverb (boss RV-5), the rest are analog as far as I know. I use them in front and through the loop depending on what I need, both are just fine. Maybe the EBS is just good, or maybe I'm going a bit deaf ;)
Had to put a Mondo on a board 1 month before the Ojia was realeased, for some gigs. Later got the Ojia, smaller, high current on every jack, wish I could have waited for the Ojia. Ojia is recommended.
Great video! I've had the Pedal Power 2 Plus for 3 years now, and it was a game changer. Combine that with a Radial Bigshot ABY, and your board will be almost totally hum free.
My god man, coming from a classical it feels if I need to take a course if I want to diverge from my current stompbox digital effects board to something else. Thanks for the video R!
Great overview of their bricks. I have two of the PP2+ and couldn't be happier. I did have to buy a couple voltage doubler cables for my Boss DD-500 and MXR 10-Band EQ and one current doubler cable for my G2. I still have an open port. Cheers
thank you for posting a video about this I could never find one years ago and just ind of had to muddle through the noise until i figured it out hopefully someone who has the same questions will save some time with this vid
I've used One Spot power adapters with no added noise. I don't run anything like a POD so I can't say how well that would work with more power intensive pedals. However I run pedals from line6, boss, electro harmonix and so on and it works beautifully. So if you're looking for power in the $30 price range then I'd recommend that. They've been great for me. I'd like to see a shootout between one spot and voodoo to see if there is a audible difference in noise level. 👍
Given that when he plugged just one pedal in the noise was still there even with the allegedly great PSUs, it was pretty clear the "chinese" PSU was not the noise source, so fat chance of the full setup of pedals being quiet. This was just a 12 minute advert with a click bait title.
I noticed that too. And of course, we don't know how high the gain was on his amp when he showed the 'noise'--for all we know he had the amp cranked wide open. Even for a sponsored video it was pretty disappointing.
I have a behringer pb1000 and that came with a dc power plug that has 1700ma's and I don't have as bad as a problem as the strymon pedal supply in the video, but that is probably because is has plenty of power, therefor there is more than enough to power my pedals, even when I had 12 or 13 pedals for my royal blood set up being powered I didn't get noise as bad as that including beeping and what not. I haven't had any problems with the board and I even brought a palmer power conditioner that I sometimes use just to be on the safe side and to make sure that their is no problems power wise. I also took out the foam pads that were screwed in and put velcro in it instead in order to utilise the space as best as possible.
I use 2 of the power2 plus. LOVE them. really reduced my noise levels from my chain. Excellent explanation of the differences! Might want to change one, thanks to this vid
I thought this was useful, regardless of the vendor focus, but as he quickly said at the beginning, the power supply is just one factor. Quality power from the main circuit at the venue or studio is so important, and for Christ's sake, run your signal cables perpendicular to your power cables. Happy Day!
Ian Shuirr I'm using a 1-Spot too! It was noisy at first, so I removed each pedal from the chain one by one to find the guilty party. Once I did that, it's nice and quiet, and I run what was the noisy pedal with it's own 9v adapter. Job done :-)
Ian Shuirr the one spot actually is a bit of an exception to the daisy chain rule. It has a lot of head room in the current department so it can handle a number of pedals at once vs a normal 9v adapter that is designed to handle only one pedal so it only has aproximity 200-400 mA of current output vs the one spot that has 1700ma. So as long as all the currents add up to less then that then it's perfectly fine.
I've never experienced any problems with my OneSpot. No noise at all. It's limited at how many pedals you can add, but still; no noise at all. I'm using a CryBaby wah, Boss TU3, Jeckyll & Hyde overdrive + distortion, Timmy overdrive, Mooer Reecho, EHX Small Clone Chorus, MXR EQ pedal and a EP Booster and no problems at all!
I get that people love power bricks... but personally I would go for modular power over power brick every time. I use the Diago powerstation to power a fairly crowded pedal train pro. I use their premium grade daisy chain and 1 if their isolators for the EHX pitch fork. flawless sound. I would love to upgrade to gigrig power sometime as I know that would be better but very happy for now.
I got a Palmer Pwt 05 block recently with 5 isolated 250mA outputs, great quality. Best value out there at €83! The Voodoo lab stuff is just a bit too price especially if ya just need something to power regular low to mid load pedals.
Great video mate I wish you were around when I started playing!! There was no internet or RUclips we are very lucky To have such accurate information at our fingertips!
Great video. I think an honorable mention goes to the Volto. I use a small rig and use an analogue Volto. I run: Boss TU3; Rainger Freakenstein; TS Mini; RAT II; Strymon El Cap; Boost; TC Electronic Trinity Reverb, and I get 4 hours serious play without loss of quality. No mains, no loop fuss. Plus, because my output is less than 500ma, I can run it while charging. I run my delay, reverb and boost through the FX loop, so the less cables on my board the better. (I am in no way endorsed by PedalTrain).
I had 2 pedal power 2+'s. I dumped them after I got my second Strymon pedal. They were low noise but far too weak on power. I don't have he space for a mondo. I got a Strymon Zuma and I'm very happy with that. Way more flexible and expandable and can handle anything you throw at it. If you got Strymons, go with Zuma. Voodoo can't cut it.
I always used an BOSS NS-2. If you run the loop correctly and adjust the threshold, completely noiseless until your guitar sends a signal. It was great for my Mic'd up Blues Jr. at festivals. Just throwing out another cost effective option.
Spot on! Adapters are a crucial part of any pedal rig and Voodoo Lab is the only brand I recommand for pedal power. they're high quality and come without any bad surprise.
Wow! I'm currently daisy chaining a 1 spot to run 9 pedals. I never use more than 4 pedals at a time. I've been wondering why I'm getting some noise, although not nearly as bad as in your video, through my ultra-clean Carol-Ann Triptik amp and now I know. Time to go shopping. Thanks Bea.
Interesting was just about to add some more pedals, cause my delay crapped out. I made my own pedal board I never got much noise keeping supply underneath the diamond plate seems to suppress noise .Also at home I can plug my amp into a different circuit of power which helps with some feedback issues txs
I have a heavy Chinese power supply that does all the fancy things that the VooDoo units do, and there is no noise and all my pedals play nice with each other. I have MXR (CAE), Dan Electro, Behringer pedals and they are on 24/7. I am happy with with my setup. I do own 4 pedal boards, and I really don't have a noise problem. But I am not denigrating you or your information, I am just lucky, LOL!
The hiss and noise you can hear in the video is because it is a switched mode power supply. I daisy chain 5 boss pedals with the OLD (!) boss poweradaptor which has a transformer (NOT switched mode!) and there is absolutly NO hiss or hum or static noise. I would never use those new switched mode power supplys (SMPS).
18V-feeds aren't just for bigger pedals or boards. - You have the few pedals that allow more headroom or whatever, just like for example you'd hook up two 9V-batteries to active pickups.
Michael Angelo H. That doesnt always work though. Example being AHB1 Actives. No need and no benefit gained on headroom with a 18v mod due to the way they are made to fulfill the full headroom.
I was using a daisy chain to power 3 or 4 pedals into a looper. The noise was unbelievable, sometimes the hiss pulsed in time with the loop even with the metronome function off. Replaced daisy chain with T. rex chameleon, job done. Lots of different voltage options just a shame it can only power 5 or 6 pedals. Cost about 150 quid in andertons, or 180 quid for me (in Korea)
Daisy chains can be straightened up sometimes if you play with order. Initially, you might just plug the first pedal socket into the first pedal, the second into the second, etc. But I've found if you play around with the order, then what's daisying into what can become much friendlier with each other and solve issues. I use a daisy chain and don't get power noise problems because of the method I just described.
Thanks Rabea for sharing your knowledge! I want to start a pedalboard for my Marshall DSL5 but don't know where to start and these are very great advices! Thank you . You are an awesome guitar player.
I took your advice and got a Pedal Power 2 from a guitar show a couple months back. Had I not saw this, I might have gotten a cheap none isolated jobbie instead. This thing is brilliant. I still have yet to try the sag power for my fuzz. lol
Nice demonstration. That was it. The power supply. I looked around and I think I'll get the Voodoo Labs Power Plus 2. They are common to see on a pro's board, so they must be pretty good. They all cost a lot. Why do I have to be so picky about sound? lol.
I use two PP2+ on my board, one running off of the courtesy outlet of the other and it works great. Clean power, even for my Strymon stuff. Sag knob is great for fuzzes and drives as well.
What you said about the no brand Power supplies is SO true. I recently purchased a Caline that initially worked ok but when increasing my volume Especially when using HI Gain amp I am experiencing noise issues running a large board 10 pedals. Will probably have to surrender and consider a voodoo lab. Nice demo
I use a Mooer micro power supply. Had it for about 3 or 4 years and I've never had any problems or noise issues. Plus it costs half the price of all that overpriced bollocks, and quite honestly if you can buy 2 or 3 pedals for same price as one of voodoo labs' pedals then somethings not right.
Just as an alternative, for those who want an affordable, low noise, power supply with incorporated tuner, there is the Joyo JF-18 Power Tune/Chromatic Tuner FX Power Supply In one 8 Output I am using one myself for my secondary board and it perfectly fits my needs. It costs about the half of a Voodoo Labs power supply, works flawlessly AND has got a tuner with a bright digital display. \m/
Thank you for posting this. I am new to all this, although I've been playing off and on, on my own for 20 years. I'm slowly adding in some pedals for a sweeter tone and am also shopping amps since my deluxe reverb finally croaked. Looking at putting a board together and adding a wah as well to fool around with.
There's definitely value in high quality isolated power supplies despite their excessive price tag. Having said that, some of the info in this video was misleading. Many, many pedals will happily daisy chain themselves without introducing any noise into the signal. It's generally when pedals with digital processors are put in that chain that they start to get narky with each other (you will find other exceptions too). I personally invested in the Pedal Power 2 Plus but its worth noting that I still run a couple of daisy chains from two of its outputs simply because I'm running more pedals than there is outputs. The crucial point here is you need to be aware of the current draw of each of your pedals and ensure they are not sucking more milliamps than the output can feed it. If you do find a pedal that doesn't play nicely with the others than you put it on its own output which will isolate it from the others and prevent the noise.
I remember I used to have a MXR Fet Driver, which I ended up selling. When using it, I had a lot of problems with it having sound when chained with more pedals. Thanks to this video, I may have just learned that because I used a daisy chain rather than using isolated outputs. I might just have to buy back that pedal. (Even though I found my Green Rhino to sound better anyway.)
I run 6 pedals off a single cheap daisy chain plugged straight into an extension lead which is plugged straight into the wall. No power supply brick whatsoever, great sound and more importantly........ no noise. No matter how loud I go. God knows what people do to get that horrible fizzing sound when daisy chaining pedals. Mines virtually silent 😂 I’ll stick with what I’m doing thanks
It's very situational. I had a board with more than a dozen pedals all powered with a daisy-chain from a single high-current wall wart, run into an amp . . . no noise problems at all. Now I'm trying to set up a chain of four or five pedals into an amp, and another four into an audio interface, and I've got terrible hum on both using a similar power setup. This is with mostly the same set of pedals. I've ordered an inexpensive Chinese isolated power supply to see if it can fix the problem.
***** Well asian made guitars are pretty reasonable in my opinion. I would have problems making a single guitar for the same price as 5 Ibanezes. You can also get tube screamer clones for about $25, I wouldn't be able to make a pedal that cheap. But a 5 way isolated power supply from Voodoo lab? They go for like $150. I could make that for like $50-$70.
(tangent) there is a point to very high watt PSUs in build that won't stress them, though those people you speak of probably aren't aware. They work most efficiently at ~40-60% load, thus they run cooler than lesser but capable PSUs at the same load. Minor power bill savings too as less of your power draw is wasted as heat. For example my rig probably draws 450-550 under heavy load, and I had an aging 650W PSU, gold rated with an actual max output of nearly 800, and it was getting hot and loud (also the fan started cranking the RPMs up and down constantly just before I replaced it). I got a 1000w 80+ Gold PSU that's 0.1% off of platinum rated. Fan doesn't run unless i'm gaming.
Yeah, but look at it this way. It will be the last one you buy because they last forever, the signal quality is 10x what you normally get and all your shit is safe. There is a price for all that, and that is just the truth. I too like to keep as much $ in my wallet as possible, but the old saying of penny wise and pound foolish is what jumps to mind. Cheers mate
Fernde09 Thats only for switch mode power supplies. You tend to avoid using switch mode power supplies for audio, because at lower loads, the switching occurs in the audio frequently, which bleeds into the pedals.
I use a Caline (Chinese) power supply, and so far its done pretty well. It does have isolated power outs...but not sure what other features. I did get some noise once or twice, but I wasnt into tracking down gremlins at that moment so I just unplugged a few pedals and problem went away. That could have been due to the power supply but I get the feeling that it was a specific pedal that just didnt want to play nice with the other pedals. Anyway, I generally agree with the premise that its best to find an established and reputable company who makes a solid product before you trust it with your tone. But sometimes the budget buger interferes and options are limited. But I do agree, and a better supply is in the plans. Thanks
It should be noted that some noise gates can also reduce or eliminate noise especially if they have the dual in/out... but that just eliminates the noise, not the crappy power issues. So isolated power supplies, while more expensive, are definitely the better option if funds permit.
Just to correct myself in this video - the RED cable is for reverse polarity and NOT higher voltage! My bad :)
Rabea Massaad, please help. gettin crazy. i use an an 8 Plug Harley Benton Power plant which Works realy fine with all my boss and mxr bass pedals. but when i connect any mooer pedal it starts gettin noisy. why? can you give an advice please. Thank you.
Karim Ayadi What Mooer pedal is it? The larger HB power plant is not fully isolated (just filtered, the HB power plant junior has superior isolation). You can get individual magnetic isolation adaptors from Diego, but they do limit the ampage supplied, which may not be enough for a power hungry digital Mooer! Hope this helped!
I own a modded vintage Roger Mayer Classic Fuzz which had an indicator LED and AC input added to it. So far I use a daisy chain from a One Spot power supply for all my other pedals, which actually works well, and a separate (cheaper) one with a polarity reverse adapter for the fuzz. The fuzz is pretty noisy and I don't know if it's the vintage pedal itself, the added AC input jack or the cheap power supply. But with a power block like these, can I use a regular output and just keep using the adapter? because it didn't work in my daisy chain, it reverse the whole chain...
Thanks and love your videos and the music, keep it coming! \m/
good thing the Strymon has reverse-polarity protection...or else you would have fried the pedal with the black-red cable :P
I cant believe you’ve done this
This is a good old-fashioned infomercial. It just happens to be on RUclips.
+Ameer Saban Hahahah pretty much. But in fairness it's always worth trying to be informative too!
Bea, I have huge respect for you. Anyone would jump at the opportunity you have to do this. Keep doing what you do man, I ain't mad atcha ;)
Not really it's important to empathise the use of good quality and more importantly safe power supplies.
A quick Google search will show you the reality of cheep and dangerous power supplies.
I saw this and thought it would be an April Fools joke with you just throwing noisy pedals in a garbage can.
You got April fooled by thinking that you're gonna get april fooled
As soon as you pulled out that chinese power brick I felt personally attacked, hahah!!
Hahahaha! Ikr? I run 2 Joyo Power Supply 2s in my pedalboard :P
I've been looking at the Joyo. You like it?
I've never had any issued with it but I run a very basic pedal setup, only a tuner, overdrive, noise gate and a delay. If I was running something more complicated I'd definitely upgrade to a voodoo labs or T Rex power supply or something along those lines
Yeah, my board's only itty bitty. Wah, OD, Comp, Tuner.
if 500mAh is enuff for you try Harley Benton Junior power supply. it's isolated and cheap.
Definitely not sponsored by vodoo lab, the best power supply company in the world, provinding the quietest power supplies for pedalboards all over the world.
(Sorry for bad english)
damn, i just clicked onto a pedal power ad
I've had the VooDoo Labs MONDO for years and it's the best Power Supply I've owned. Awesome, powerful, reliable... VooDoo Labs rock! Cheers mate!
I highly recommend the Truetone 1SPOT PRO CS7 and CS12. Still a bit pricey but mine have worked great, no noise, lots of options/features, etc.
patrick.cs I agree! I recently bought CS7, it's amazing!
the 1spot pro is actually better too
it provides a lot more current then the standard voodoo lab and I think it's cheaper.
It is cheaper and it provides outputs of 500 mA
The CS 12 was the most versatile supply I could find and it was affordable.
I own both the CS7 and 12 and can power Strymon (mobius, timeline), Eventide H9, Roger Linn III, Line 6 M5, Roland Gr30, Zoom G3 &G3n, and many more like Boss, Disaster Area Designs, MusicomLab EFX ii, Digitech Jam Man Soloist XT, AMT SS-20, Egnater Goldsmith, Xotic Effects, DOD, Mooer, EHX, MXR, and the list goes on. I owned the digital from Voodoo Lab but my setup needed additional ma which the digital could not meet. You can't go wrong with the Truetone 1SPOT PRO CS7 and CS12.
I've been using four cheapo (but actually very good)power supplies on my pedalboard for a while now, one of which daisychains 5 pedals.
I've found that although there is a little noise, it's not a major problem. In fact, the pedals themselves make more noise even when on their own power supply, and the daisy chain has actually worked better than a power supply on its own.
A friend of mine insisted me to buy a good power supply instead of a noise gate. Now I know the reason why my chain turned so noisy, using a chinese ac adapter with multiple pedal input adapters. Thanks Rabea!!! Pretty informative. GREETINGS from Chile !!
The Gigrig also does a rather cool modular system I can recommend. Not cheap, but very clever with minimal board space required
Bea is spot on. I have a Behringer Digital delay/reverb, an Ibanez tube screamer and a ditto looper
Not much, I know, and the delay is purely for 1 very fast delay turned back for a slight double track effect. Only used for 1% of what it can do but It sounds great in blues lead.
I only play blues
I wont insult your intelligence and tell you what the screamer is for.
I was daisy chained from one supply and had a hiss from the Tube screamer.
I had wanted one for ages and never got round to it. It pissed me off so much I took it out.
Such a lovely green colour too :)
Nothing I cant create on the Fender Bassbreaker anyhow so I kept the delay because I love that fast 1 repeat
Anyways, I put the screamer back in without the delay and was amazed to find it was a quiet as a mouse.
Its the 3 running from one supply. I had a spare supply, and the hiss is negligible with 2 seperate supplies. The ditto is still daisy to one other pedal. The PSU's are just crap Chinese tat anyhow.
I will look at better supplies if I expand to a 4th pedal.
(Top Tip. Put the pedals after the guitar and the ditto in the effects in/out)
Great video Bea
The 9v daisy chain method works for me and I run a tuner, wah, overdrive, distortion, eq, 2 delays, tremolo, and ditto looper. It doesn't get noisy, it's actually really quiet.
Yeah, the fact is companies will try and sell you things you don't need. If daisy chains work for you, use them.
Yeh I use a 6 way daisy chain too, it's ok for my marshall pedals, bluesbreaker 2, edward the compressor, regenerator....and my ditto, ehx #1 echo. But it doesn't quite have the power to run a ehx B9 organ pedal at the same time as 4 or 5 other pedals without the B9 being noisy, so I could do with a cheap alternative to the voodoo labs cos I can't afford £100+ for a power supply nor would I spend that even if I had the money, so I might have a look at the harley benton.
What I'm also trying to say is that according to your situation/pedals your are running, you might not need an expensive PSU. Try your rig with an inexpensive 9v/Dixie chain method first and maybe you might save yourself enough money to buy another effect pedal lol
I have a Stagg 9v brick with daisy chain (bought from Andertons) and I haven't noticed excess noise. Guess it depends on the pedals, amp and electrics where you are.
Beyrin Hernandez I've used a boss PSA adapter and daisy chain for years with no complaints. Tuner, compressor, overdrive, fuzz, chorus, phaser, noise gate and wah on one supply! If I use my Dunlop power supply (similar rating) I have mild noise problems. I suppose it makes a difference which one you use.
Hey Rabea. Good video. I bought an ISO5, mainly because they advertised isolated power channels and had an 18v output.
I use EMG actives in some guitars and instead of using batteries inside the guitar, I use an EMG ES-918 18v power pack, which stands in between the guitar and the FX/amp in signal chain. EMG do not recommend any external powering of this unit but do have a power socket built into the power pack strangely enough. Using their ES-918, EMG recommend only using batteries inside the pack. In my small home studio environment I use the ISO5 to power the EMG power pack to the active guitars.
I also power the ISO5 through a Furman M-10x E which helps clean up the power supply at the start.
While EMG speculate I would get interference using external powering to their power pack unit, the ISO5 is good enough to provide a clean power supply and keep the noise out. Believe it or not. BTW, my home circuitry is not top quality, and I do get noise in some areas of my home....
So yes, based upon my own experience, Voodoo Labs provide a good product.
I have 2 pedalboards daisy chained and have no hiss.
The cables, the way the guitar is setup, the current from the wall.
So many factors.
Cioks power supplies are damn good, I'm running a board with 15 pedals (incl. 2 Strymons) plus a Boss ES-8, 3 MIDI auxiliary loopers and a MIDI splitter, all powered by 3 Cioks units and I only get serious noise if I run the high gain channel on my amp with my Tube Screamer and my Whammy DT together, and I think that's mostly because the Whammy is situated directly on top of the highest output PSU, the Cioks DC-10, TS off: no more problem. (I should mention I use a noise suppressor when using the high gain channel on my amp, but with it off it's really not much noisier than using the amp by itself, no more than you'd expect, less than I expected when I built the thing.)
i also have 15 pedals on my board (plus tuner, no strymons though) and use one cioks dc-10 to power them. how? i daisy chain most of the drive pedals from two of the high mA outputs with those split flex cables. zero noise issues ever. but my board is also a solid metal tool drawer so the psu and most its cables are semi-isolated underneath. that being said, anyone can be unlucky and have noise /hum in their rig, can be so many things. but a good power supply def helps. just bought a voodoo lab 4x4 for a friend which i look forward to testing out before i hand it over.
Dude congrats on jamming with Gilbert! It was the most amazing thing to see and witness how far you've come as a player and that performance cemented the fact that you are an absolute force in the guitar world. I have never seen someone jam that well with him in my life and you are easily becoming one of the most talented players in the universe. Much respect bro!!! \m/
I use the Gig Rig generator and distributors. The problem with Voodoo Labs power supplies (or any power supplies apart from Gig Rig stuff) for me, is that you can only power a certain amount of pedals with each unit. With the Gig Rig, you can draw up to 5 amps of isolated current, any volt or polarity using their distributors, and you'll never run out of outputs.
Before you completely write them off, batteries are the cleanest source of power available for audio and will never cause noise.
You can also use rechargeable Li-Ion batteries for this purpose.
Martin Krauser batteries scare me....I fear them dying spontaneously!
Pete Cockcroft - Solarflares why would my power supply die? It’s plugged into a wall
Batteries are "quietly" destroying the Earth. RnR is killing the birds. Tattoos and Afros are an abomination. Other than that I really liked this excellent 'info-mercial'. AC is of course Alternating Current as opposed to DC/Direct Current/battery current. If you use both AC & DC, Back-in-Black will sound proper.
Martin Krauser yeah but by the time you've replaced a bunch of them you could've just bought a voodoo pedal power. Especially if you play alot. With a pedal power I can leave all my pedals hooked up and not have to worry about battery drain if my band takes a week or two off and I don't get back to my board for a bit. It has its advantages. To me it's worth the price tag.
Lay off the drugs, Larry.
i used to use 3 daisy chains hooked together off of one 9V power adaptor powering 9 pedals, and honestly it wasnt bad at all, the only thing that suffered was my fuzz. Everyone said "dont use that it sucks" and having a proper power supply now is good, but it wasnt any where near as bad as everyone thought it would be.
I run two Harley Benton (Thomann brand) power supplies with five isolated outputs at 9V 120mA without any issues. I highly recommend them.
I still have my original Voodoo Lads Pedal Power. Not the PP2 the predecessor to that and it has been on the board for almost 20 years no problems. I added a second one later. I love them
Hahahahahaha you got the same hum from the power supply youre trying to sell!!! HAHAHAHA
The "noise" demonstrated at :32 of the video was actually amp feedback that has absolutely nothing to do with the power supply. It was a funny bit, but it also set up a false expectation of what a good power supply will actually do for you. It will not eliminate 60 cycle hum from single coil pickups either. What a world class isolated power supply *will* do is eliminate ground loops and feed the clean power pedals require to sound and perform their best.
JackstandJohnny a
Personally, when I had a pedalboard, I used CHIOKS supplies.
Why.. Because they are the most versatile PSU's out there
When I had big TC (flashback) delays, with some SiB FX 'CUDA overdrive and other stuff, the CIOKS was the only thing that had enough outputs with high enough amp to power it all.
Check them out, Danish design and quality.
Helped find this weirdly faint repeat sound ( yes more so on high gain) I used his troubleshoot method and the delay was the culprit. Even off or disengaged it would continue ( no I don’t have infinity tails on either ). It’s really old. Thanks!!!
I like how the Mobius greets you with 'GOOD MORNING'. Genius 10/10!!
I'm a die hard Trutone power supply fan. I've got 14 pedals and the CS12 gets the job done nicely!
I've been rocking the Pedaltrain Volto for my needs. I am only running analog pedals from it and usually no more than 5 pedals. It lasts for about 5 hours with my pedal board and I don't have to add an extension cord to trip over on stage. It makes set up so much easier, HOWEVER, you just have to make sure its fully charged before the gig.
I use a 9v wall adapter with a daisy chain.
Its completely silent. Supports all my pedals and does Ac/DC current and supplies upto 1750mah. Very happy with it.
had a peal power 2 for 9 years still kicking awesome product
Most people dont know that Truetone has the 1 Spot Pro CS-7 and CS-12 that are TRUE isolated power supplies and theyre much cheaper. I got the CS-12 for $150. It does all this and more including TWO 18v outputs AND TWO 4v-9v adjustable voltage outputs. I run 11 pedals off it with zero issues.
Hi Rabea, great video demo regarding pedals etc.
What l noticed is your 2 Peavey 5150 heads, l remember selling mine to the captain for you many years ago. Cool to see this in the background 🙏🎶🎸🎸
Keep rocking great music too my friend 👌👌
Excellent video, as usual, I can recommend Strymon power supplies too. They are stellar, compact and noiseless.
Take care.
I've been using an EBS 9 volt powersupply with a daisy chain for years and it has worked fine all this time. No excessive noise, certainly nothing like you had in the video.
A.J. K You probably have all your pedals in the front. Also probably no digital pedals. And the power supply is probably not bad.
I have a digital reverb (boss RV-5), the rest are analog as far as I know. I use them in front and through the loop depending on what I need, both are just fine. Maybe the EBS is just good, or maybe I'm going a bit deaf ;)
wow, 8 minutes I'll never get back for a voodoo commercial.
Roger Hundley you're welcome :-D
i almost bought that same chinese power supply for my board. by mooer. thank god i watched this video. thanks man!
Had to put a Mondo on a board 1 month before the Ojia was realeased, for some gigs. Later got the Ojia, smaller, high current on every jack, wish I could have waited for the Ojia. Ojia is recommended.
I got a pedaltrain board because it has a mount underneath designed for the pedal power 2 plus. works great!
I use the VooDoo Lab Pedal Power 2 Plus and no complaint. Works great. Worth the price.
Great video! I've had the Pedal Power 2 Plus for 3 years now, and it was a game changer. Combine that with a Radial Bigshot ABY, and your board will be almost totally hum free.
I used to use a daisy chain rig, but now I'm using a Voodoo lab 2 plus. And I love it!
Much appreciated man, didn't know about the digital one..rock on!
My god man, coming from a classical it feels if I need to take a course if I want to diverge from my current stompbox digital effects board to something else.
Thanks for the video R!
Great overview of their bricks. I have two of the PP2+ and couldn't be happier. I did have to buy a couple voltage doubler cables for my Boss DD-500 and MXR 10-Band EQ and one current doubler cable for my G2. I still have an open port. Cheers
This whole time and my daisy chain was the problem. Buying a power supply next. Thank you so much for this!
Having a proper power supply is key. I also use a really good noise gate to get rid of noise and unwanted feedback with high gain distortion.
I use a rowin.
Straight copy of the ISP decimator. Works fucking great AND costed about 30 bucks
A good power conditioner solved most of my noise issues. A good power supply like Voodoo Labs helps too.
I love Rabea you sponsors out their ...I love this guy
thank you for posting a video about this I could never find one years ago and just ind of had to muddle through the noise until i figured it out hopefully someone who has the same questions will save some time with this vid
I've used One Spot power adapters with no added noise. I don't run anything like a POD so I can't say how well that would work with more power intensive pedals. However I run pedals from line6, boss, electro harmonix and so on and it works beautifully. So if you're looking for power in the $30 price range then I'd recommend that. They've been great for me. I'd like to see a shootout between one spot and voodoo to see if there is a audible difference in noise level. 👍
I was expecting to see all those pedals connected again and demonstrating the noise was gone or at least under control :(
Given that when he plugged just one pedal in the noise was still there even with the allegedly great PSUs, it was pretty clear the "chinese" PSU was not the noise source, so fat chance of the full setup of pedals being quiet. This was just a 12 minute advert with a click bait title.
I noticed that too. And of course, we don't know how high the gain was on his amp when he showed the 'noise'--for all we know he had the amp cranked wide open.
Even for a sponsored video it was pretty disappointing.
Bet it would be exactly the same and we’d be a lot poorer.
It was a click bait and a video demonstrating how crapy the sponsor was.
I have a behringer pb1000 and that came with a dc power plug that has 1700ma's and I don't have as bad as a problem as the strymon pedal supply in the video, but that is probably because is has plenty of power, therefor there is more than enough to power my pedals, even when I had 12 or 13 pedals for my royal blood set up being powered I didn't get noise as bad as that including beeping and what not. I haven't had any problems with the board and I even brought a palmer power conditioner that I sometimes use just to be on the safe side and to make sure that their is no problems power wise. I also took out the foam pads that were screwed in and put velcro in it instead in order to utilise the space as best as possible.
I use 2 of the power2 plus. LOVE them. really reduced my noise levels from my chain. Excellent explanation of the differences! Might want to change one, thanks to this vid
I thought this was useful, regardless of the vendor focus, but as he quickly said at the beginning, the power supply is just one factor. Quality power from the main circuit at the venue or studio is so important, and for Christ's sake, run your signal cables perpendicular to your power cables. Happy Day!
and I'm over here using a one spot to power all my pedals lol. guess I know what my next purchase is going to be! Thanks!
Ian Shuirr I'm using a 1-Spot too! It was noisy at first, so I removed each pedal from the chain one by one to find the guilty party. Once I did that, it's nice and quiet, and I run what was the noisy pedal with it's own 9v adapter. Job done :-)
guitardavept I'm gonna do that. thanks man. I know my Earthquaker devices hummingbird is definitely one of them.
Ian Shuirr the one spot actually is a bit of an exception to the daisy chain rule. It has a lot of head room in the current department so it can handle a number of pedals at once vs a normal 9v adapter that is designed to handle only one pedal so it only has aproximity 200-400 mA of current output vs the one spot that has 1700ma. So as long as all the currents add up to less then that then it's perfectly fine.
... unless the pedals refuse to play ball and cause noise when sharing a ground lead. Which is virtually always.
I've never experienced any problems with my OneSpot. No noise at all. It's limited at how many pedals you can add, but still; no noise at all. I'm using a CryBaby wah, Boss TU3, Jeckyll & Hyde overdrive + distortion, Timmy overdrive, Mooer Reecho, EHX Small Clone Chorus, MXR EQ pedal and a EP Booster and no problems at all!
8:25 "any f@!king trollers" I can't unhear it.
Bea, Helix has an IEC connector on the back, it can't be powered by any of those power supplies, it has its own transformer.
I get that people love power bricks... but personally I would go for modular power over power brick every time.
I use the Diago powerstation to power a fairly crowded pedal train pro. I use their premium grade daisy chain and 1 if their isolators for the EHX pitch fork. flawless sound.
I would love to upgrade to gigrig power sometime as I know that would be better but very happy for now.
I got a Palmer Pwt 05 block recently with 5 isolated 250mA outputs, great quality. Best value out there at €83! The Voodoo lab stuff is just a bit too price especially if ya just need something to power regular low to mid load pedals.
The MXR M238 is looking like a real competitor for Voodoo Labs. It has more high amperage 9V slots for digital effects such as Strymon.
Great video mate I wish you were around when I started playing!!
There was no internet or RUclips we are very lucky
To have such accurate information at our fingertips!
Great video. I think an honorable mention goes to the Volto. I use a small rig and use an analogue Volto. I run: Boss TU3; Rainger Freakenstein; TS Mini; RAT II; Strymon El Cap; Boost; TC Electronic Trinity Reverb, and I get 4 hours serious play without loss of quality. No mains, no loop fuss. Plus, because my output is less than 500ma, I can run it while charging. I run my delay, reverb and boost through the FX loop, so the less cables on my board the better. (I am in no way endorsed by PedalTrain).
That was great, never realised it was so complicated. I've just plugged in and played away...............noise and all!
I had 2 pedal power 2+'s. I dumped them after I got my second Strymon pedal. They were low noise but far too weak on power. I don't have he space for a mondo. I got a Strymon Zuma and I'm very happy with that. Way more flexible and expandable and can handle anything you throw at it. If you got Strymons, go with Zuma. Voodoo can't cut it.
I always used an BOSS NS-2. If you run the loop correctly and adjust the threshold, completely noiseless until your guitar sends a signal. It was great for my Mic'd up Blues Jr. at festivals. Just throwing out another cost effective option.
Spot on! Adapters are a crucial part of any pedal rig and Voodoo Lab is the only brand I recommand for pedal power. they're high quality and come without any bad surprise.
Wow! I'm currently daisy chaining a 1 spot to run 9 pedals. I never use more than 4 pedals at a time. I've been wondering why I'm getting some noise, although not nearly as bad as in your video, through my ultra-clean Carol-Ann Triptik amp and now I know. Time to go shopping. Thanks Bea.
Interesting was just about to add some more pedals, cause my delay crapped out. I made my own pedal board I never got much noise keeping supply underneath the diamond plate seems to suppress noise .Also at home I can plug my amp into a different circuit of power which helps with some feedback issues txs
I have a heavy Chinese power supply that does all the fancy things that the VooDoo units do, and there is no noise and all my pedals play nice with each other. I have MXR (CAE), Dan Electro, Behringer pedals and they are on 24/7.
I am happy with with my setup. I do own 4 pedal boards, and I really don't have a noise problem. But I am not denigrating you or your information, I am just lucky, LOL!
The hiss and noise you can hear in the video is because it is a switched mode power supply. I daisy chain 5 boss pedals with the OLD (!) boss poweradaptor which has a transformer (NOT switched mode!) and there is absolutly NO hiss or hum or static noise. I would never use those new switched mode power supplys (SMPS).
18V-feeds aren't just for bigger pedals or boards. - You have the few pedals that allow more headroom or whatever, just like for example you'd hook up two 9V-batteries to active pickups.
Michael Angelo H. That doesnt always work though. Example being AHB1 Actives. No need and no benefit gained on headroom with a 18v mod due to the way they are made to fulfill the full headroom.
I was using a daisy chain to power 3 or 4 pedals into a looper. The noise was unbelievable, sometimes the hiss pulsed in time with the loop even with the metronome function off. Replaced daisy chain with T. rex chameleon, job done. Lots of different voltage options just a shame it can only power 5 or 6 pedals. Cost about 150 quid in andertons, or 180 quid for me (in Korea)
Daisy chains can be straightened up sometimes if you play with order. Initially, you might just plug the first pedal socket into the first pedal, the second into the second, etc. But I've found if you play around with the order, then what's daisying into what can become much friendlier with each other and solve issues. I use a daisy chain and don't get power noise problems because of the method I just described.
Thanks Rabea for sharing your knowledge! I want to start a pedalboard for my Marshall DSL5 but don't know where to start and these are very great advices!
Thank you . You are an awesome guitar player.
I watch these videos yet I don't have an electric guitar, and I can't even play guitar in general. Lol
Adam Taylor you are a hero
Legend👍
I took your advice and got a Pedal Power 2 from a guitar show a couple months back. Had I not saw this, I might have gotten a cheap none isolated jobbie instead. This thing is brilliant. I still have yet to try the sag power for my fuzz. lol
Nice demonstration. That was it. The power supply. I looked around and I think I'll get the Voodoo Labs Power Plus 2. They are common to see on a pro's board, so they must be pretty good. They all cost a lot. Why do I have to be so picky about sound? lol.
I use a Godlyke powerall, it works great so far. The problem is that I don't have space in my Pedaltrain mini for a Voodoo
I use two PP2+ on my board, one running off of the courtesy outlet of the other and it works great. Clean power, even for my Strymon stuff. Sag knob is great for fuzzes and drives as well.
Hi!
I use Strymon Zuma and Ojai, and they work just great! Have GigRig power supply also, but I hav’nt used it jet. Shure its great too!
Watched the vid. Re did my board. Changed power supply. Gigged with better tone. Its a simple formula!!!!
Seriously helpful for someone completely new to this!
What you said about the no brand Power supplies is SO true. I recently purchased a Caline that initially worked ok but when increasing my volume Especially when using HI Gain amp I am experiencing noise issues running a large board 10 pedals. Will probably have to surrender and consider a voodoo lab. Nice demo
Two 5150's, a Kemper, and a Marshall head.....what an excellent bedroom set up!
Aww dang it now I gotta spend more money. I've been doing the wrong thing. Thumbs up for the vid. Very helpful.
The little Diago 9v supplies are great. They have a filter so I've had no issues with daisy chaining off that. Also a noise gate helps!
I use a Mooer micro power supply. Had it for about 3 or 4 years and I've never had any problems or noise issues. Plus it costs half the price of all that overpriced bollocks, and quite honestly if you can buy 2 or 3 pedals for same price as one of voodoo labs' pedals then somethings not right.
I agree.
Mooer S8 ftw
Just as an alternative, for those who want an affordable, low noise, power supply with incorporated tuner, there is the Joyo JF-18 Power Tune/Chromatic Tuner FX Power Supply In one 8 Output
I am using one myself for my secondary board and it perfectly fits my needs. It costs about the half of a Voodoo Labs power supply, works flawlessly AND has got a tuner with a bright digital display. \m/
Thank you for posting this. I am new to all this, although I've been playing off and on, on my own for 20 years.
I'm slowly adding in some pedals for a sweeter tone and am also shopping amps since my deluxe reverb finally croaked. Looking at putting a board together and adding a wah as well to fool around with.
Thanks Rabea I was looking for a video on this subject and of course you had one.
How can anyone in their right mind dislike a video of Rabea's?
ps rhetorical question
Easily...if he is adevertising stuff WITHOUT actual playing them -_-
Step 1: Unplug noisy pedal
Step 2: Toss in rubbish bin
There's definitely value in high quality isolated power supplies despite their excessive price tag. Having said that, some of the info in this video was misleading. Many, many pedals will happily daisy chain themselves without introducing any noise into the signal. It's generally when pedals with digital processors are put in that chain that they start to get narky with each other (you will find other exceptions too).
I personally invested in the Pedal Power 2 Plus but its worth noting that I still run a couple of daisy chains from two of its outputs simply because I'm running more pedals than there is outputs. The crucial point here is you need to be aware of the current draw of each of your pedals and ensure they are not sucking more milliamps than the output can feed it. If you do find a pedal that doesn't play nicely with the others than you put it on its own output which will isolate it from the others and prevent the noise.
I have the pedal power 2 plus. Haven't had a problem so far.
I remember I used to have a MXR Fet Driver, which I ended up selling. When using it, I had a lot of problems with it having sound when chained with more pedals. Thanks to this video, I may have just learned that because I used a daisy chain rather than using isolated outputs. I might just have to buy back that pedal. (Even though I found my Green Rhino to sound better anyway.)
I run 6 pedals off a single cheap daisy chain plugged straight into an extension lead which is plugged straight into the wall. No power supply brick whatsoever, great sound and more importantly........ no noise. No matter how loud I go. God knows what people do to get that horrible fizzing sound when daisy chaining pedals. Mines virtually silent 😂 I’ll stick with what I’m doing thanks
Lol I'm with you...
It's very situational. I had a board with more than a dozen pedals all powered with a daisy-chain from a single high-current wall wart, run into an amp . . . no noise problems at all. Now I'm trying to set up a chain of four or five pedals into an amp, and another four into an audio interface, and I've got terrible hum on both using a similar power setup. This is with mostly the same set of pedals. I've ordered an inexpensive Chinese isolated power supply to see if it can fix the problem.
I found The best way to get rid of noisy pedals ;-) I bought a kemper :-)
Edouard Jandrez
Its a shame that they're so bloody expensive.
***** Well asian made guitars are pretty reasonable in my opinion. I would have problems making a single guitar for the same price as 5 Ibanezes. You can also get tube screamer clones for about $25, I wouldn't be able to make a pedal that cheap. But a 5 way isolated power supply from Voodoo lab? They go for like $150. I could make that for like $50-$70.
(tangent)
there is a point to very high watt PSUs in build that won't stress them, though those people you speak of probably aren't aware. They work most efficiently at ~40-60% load, thus they run cooler than lesser but capable PSUs at the same load. Minor power bill savings too as less of your power draw is wasted as heat.
For example my rig probably draws 450-550 under heavy load, and I had an aging 650W PSU, gold rated with an actual max output of nearly 800, and it was getting hot and loud (also the fan started cranking the RPMs up and down constantly just before I replaced it). I got a 1000w 80+ Gold PSU that's 0.1% off of platinum rated. Fan doesn't run unless i'm gaming.
Yeah, but look at it this way. It will be the last one you buy because they last forever, the signal quality is 10x what you normally get and all your shit is safe. There is a price for all that, and that is just the truth. I too like to keep as much $ in my wallet as possible, but the old saying of penny wise and pound foolish is what jumps to mind. Cheers mate
Dimebag Dio Kilmister Well thats assuming that your pedalboard doesn't expand, that pedals don't all start consuming 300mA.
Fernde09 Thats only for switch mode power supplies. You tend to avoid using switch mode power supplies for audio, because at lower loads, the switching occurs in the audio frequently, which bleeds into the pedals.
I use a Caline (Chinese) power supply, and so far its done pretty well. It does have isolated power outs...but not sure what other features.
I did get some noise once or twice, but I wasnt into tracking down gremlins at that moment so I just unplugged a few pedals and problem went away.
That could have been due to the power supply but I get the feeling that it was a specific pedal that just didnt want to play nice with the other pedals.
Anyway, I generally agree with the premise that its best to find an established and reputable company who makes a solid product before you trust it with your tone. But sometimes the budget buger interferes and options are limited.
But I do agree, and a better supply is in the plans.
Thanks
It should be noted that some noise gates can also reduce or eliminate noise especially if they have the dual in/out... but that just eliminates the noise, not the crappy power issues. So isolated power supplies, while more expensive, are definitely the better option if funds permit.