Vegans? Never. They just know they're better than you 🤡 Even though the soy they eat is destroying the planet and humans have evolved to eat animals, why let facts get in the way 😂
Great outreach cip....shame they couldn't stay longer . Yeah Málaga is a bit heavy , we're actually going to visit my girlfriends son who lives in a village near Málaga, will go to that awesome vegan restaurant also. 👍👍. That city definately could do with some vegan outreach.
"I respect that, but also, I don't respect that" - average non-vegan(?) It's utterly insane. "I don't respect that you respect all sentient beings, because I don't" Cip! I just finished editing my first outreach video. Will upload on RUclips tomorrow. Will add a few teasers on my IG-story.
.. Poor innocent animals. You don’t want to be in their shoes👈🤥. Longest living people on Earth, are vegan. PIaque forms eating animals. Plant-based/vegans don’t have pIaque ✅♥️😬🐒🐵🦧🦍👱🏼♂️👩🏽😉. Buddhist monks most of them are vegan ✅♥️💪😬😉.. rice, quinoa, beans, and lentils, and oats, fruits and herbs and spices, yeast B12 tablespoon, every day, is the key to healthiness ✅😉..
Longest living people are not vegan, it would be closest to Mediterranean diet, Saturated fats includes plant fats from coconut etc, which cause plaques. Only around half of Buddhist sects are vegetarian, mainly Mahayana Buddhism, Theravada and other sects have no restrictions. If you're going to make claims, make them factual, it makes all us vegans look bad
Uhh, the population of Hong Kong has the highest life expectancy in the world and is also the largest consumer of meat. In fact, the list of countries with the highest life expectancy is the same as the list of countries with the highest meat consumption.
@@tna-technutamateur8249 All you've just shown, is you don't understand Hong Kong. The elderly haven't been consuming meat, it's only a recent change. You're still seeing the effects on old people of a mainly vegetarian lifetime. Also, high standard of healthcare. You should learn facts before posting part of a story... 🤦♂
Haha.. when I do outreach, it’s like a wave of tranquility comes over me. I guess it’s because I understand the importance of staying calm and trying to send the right message. After all, when we do activism, we represent veganism and we have to show a good image. But, thank you so much 🙏🤗💚
The dairy milk industry is disgusting. The fact that this (or any) woman can say, "I think I might walk away" because she doesn't want to hear it 🤔🙄😔 she better not join any me too movements or get annoyed if a man treats her like a brood mate.
Implying that because a fish cannot give consent to being eaten, therefore it is unethical to eat fish is absolutely hilarious. You could teach yoga with that reach.
14:51 Ugh 'local farmers' does she think that the abuse happens 'after' the eggs have been harvested? Like its acce[table to buy from the farmers but somehow worse to buy the same product if its gone to a supermarket?
Yeah.. it’s weird how people have this clinging to all things local. Someone at some point mentioned it and now it’s like a miracle trait. Sarcasm incoming: A product that is local does not exploit animals, it is healthier, better for the environment and the economy.
I am not an atheist. I just know there’s a God I just refuse to give God a human clan( Christian, Muslim, & etc) . So I find it fascinating that you care. Why do what you do? If there is no God and no point. We are just here then we die. I feel as though God is a big ball of energy and we just get absorbed back into the mainframe and God process the energy and converts it to new life forms like humans, cows, ants and etc.
Just put yourself in the animals position. You wouldn't want whats done to them to yourself. it's about showing compassion, empathy and wanting to protect innocent victims. Be vegan
@@godzilla400yeah I know. Been vegan coming up on my first year. I just haven’t seen an atheist have so much passion for life of other life forms. Just fascinating
@SurTrailDoesAll I think that empathy, the golden rule and the simple understanding that everyone wants to live free of exploitation can exist outside of any deity. After all, morality doesn’t exist because of religion. Religion exists because of our sense of morality.
@@veganpowerlab I get that. I feel as though God game me this humility. Like if God didn’t exist i honestly wouldn’t want to live( tried to commit suicide multiple times) I felt hopeless because people were cruel to animals and eat h other for no reason. I felt the world’s pain on my shoulders. And through communication with God I was able to alleviate that pain. It was eye opening. I love thinking outside myself, out side the human experience and beyond this planet. God always encourages me to seek knowledge over anything and never power over knowledge. Anyway I hope you watch my soon to come vegan videos and movies. 🥰🤩
And I side note. I follow no religion. Just god. I like to go to remote areas and pray. Be among the animals and nature. And feel the sun on my skin. Connect with what God created and not man made. Gives a lot of clarity. Religion is another man made thing to cause divide and separation of man(like there isn’t enough to separate us, like race, gender, sexuality and so on). Man destroyed this planet to advance man only. Is sickening to be a passenger on this planet I am tired of riding in a car with someone seeing all the death we create and no one cares. I watched a dear rot on the side of the road for months. Looking back I wish I was a better person and gave that deer a proper burial. But I was weak then. With each passing day. I’m trying to build a better world for all life forms not just one. 🙏🏿🙌🏾
killing animals is as disgusting as killing innocent unborn children. Did she say she is fpr free choice abortion? Getting married and talking stuff like this . WTF.
It was hard to catch up with everything they were saying, since they were talking at the same time, but it def was a subject they talked before (or so it seemed)
Seems like what you talk about is only available in certain store and only from certain companies. But, let’s say that even if everyone were to do that, that is still only one part of the issue, as described in the video
It also seems that many companies just switched from hatching eggs in Germany to importing already hatched females. So the males are still killed, just in another country. It basically just moved the problem.
Your other reasons for not consuming eggs were nuts though. And you weren't able to argue them when you were talking with these women. You had to add it in to the video afterwards. If you're not able to argue those points effectively then they're not worth mentioning.
Don't know how I ended up on this video. An honest question. How do vegans rationalize the fact that everything they do, consume, eat, purchase, etc. contributes in one way or another to the death or exploitation of animals? Is it intention or outcome that matters?
@@veganpowerlab For an extreme example, if you walk, you kill insects. Do insects count? Did you have to take that extra walk? This scales to larger animals as well. Do you need those extra plant calories? Those plant calories result in ending some form of life. So again, is it intention or outcome that matters? Maybe both.
We are not ‘’opportunistic Omnivores’’ Chimps and some other monkeys are, but our closest non human relatives are Bonobos, who are Fruitarians. Yes we started using animals as food at some point in the past but that was out of necessity not opportunism, the word Omnivore should never go together with Humans!. The Militant Vegan has recently said we are ‘’Opportunistic Omnivores’’ as well, we need to nip this misinformation in the bud! ✊🏽🌻🌎
Most animals are opportunistic omnivores. Both obligatory carnivores and obligatory herbivores are a rarety in nature. Sheep are opportunistic omnivores. Cows are opportunistic omnivores. Giraffes are opportunistic omnivores. None of these animals will refuse to occasionally snack on a snake or a bird chick if opportunity arises. They just don't deliberately seek those out. So are we. We are omnivores. We are more than capable of eating both animal and plant based foods.
We and our ancestors have been hypercarnivores for about 2.4 million years. A hypercarnivore consumes around 70-80% animal-based food. We needed fat and meat to develop our large brains. In fact, our entire physiology is adapted to consuming meat and fat. We have a highly acidic stomach, more acidic than most carnivores. This is because we evolved to live off a kill for weeks. Our small intestines are very long, ideal for absorbing all the nutrients from meat and fat. We have a large gallbladder, perfect for digesting large amounts of animal fat. If you don't use it enough, the bile crystallizes and you get gallstones. We do not have a fermenting gut; our appendix is what remains of that. We have a short colon, just for collecting waste. We possess unique skills for hunting and cooperation. Meat has been considered the most ideal food in all societies throughout history. Only among the city dwellers in the West, who are estranged from nature, is veganism a thing. Try to find any "wild" vegetables; they are a recent invention. Look up natural fruit. In nature, it's only available for a few weeks each year. Wild fruit looks nothing like the fruit you consume today. Modern fruit is essentially a sugary bomb
@@veganpowerlab This does nothing to prove OP and his claim that we aren't in fact omnivores right in any way, shape or form and, therefore, largely irrelevant.
@@veganpowerlab Sure, you can always ignore this and risk your health by eating food made to feed a lot of people, rather than food that is meant to keep you healthy. I’d rather not take that experiment.
I like how you talk about open opinion sharing and changing minds but your is kind of closed! You will be spouting like priest but contrair opinions are negated immidiatly. And then pointing the woman out that leaces the frame at first is also in bad taste, she knows she is an outlier in this konversation and she steps back until the general peopke without specified dieds had their say and comes back when she feels it fits into the convo. And then you actually never talk about her point again. because she was making a good point many people are having problems with allergies towards protein rich veggies, for them to get the nutrients is very important. And one of the most important things for women would be iron. Which is more in meat then in any vegan diet could be.
First of all, there are plenty of sources of plant protein. If you’re allergic to one, there’s another. The same is for iron. So, then, do you think it’s okay to exploit sentient individuals for optional food?
@@veganpowerlab yes i do and i think you are kidding your self if you think truly vegan products actually exist. because humans are so extremely involved in earth that no product you can buy will ever not be exploiting animals in one way or another, you are just virtue signaling. Your values are just another compromise of how far you will look to not see the harm that animals will get by the products you consume. i am just beeing reallistic about it, and for that you will call me a bad person!
@@veganpowerlab i tried already to answer this question but it got deleted, yes i think it is not really an ethical question but philosophical one! Because you are reducing the amount of distressed caused to animals in the making of those alternatives, but no Product that you can buy or make your self can ever truly be "VEGAN" because only if you look into every aspect of production and find NOTHING that point towards animal cruelty or exploitation then you can say vegan. But thats like disproving the existence of god, becuase in some way everything we do effects some animal negativly. Name me one thing that doesn't, i will be able to name you away that negativly effects one animal or another. So it is not a question of "if" but how much, and yes i am ok with the amount of exploitation of animals necessary for me to eat meat and consume animal products!
I'm not really fan of leading questions. It makes sense for peopel, but before doing this, we need to establish if we give same rights and value to animals. Personally, despite being vegan for over a year while ago, I didn't really do it for animal rights reasons, it was more for environmental and me liking vegan food, overall my opinion is the same. I think we should minimize the suffering of animals, but at the same time I don't really see anything wrong with eating animal products. Overall, to me we should treat animals based on level of consciousness, I'm personally quite against killing animals like orca, or chimps for food. But I'm not fundamentally against people eating even animals like dogs, I think it's disqusting, but that because they are common pets, not because I have fundunental rationale against some people eating them. Idk, personally during time I was vegan I watched vegan content extensively. And for me ethical arguments didn't really ever strike home. On other hand environmental did.
Thanks for the reminder I have a steak in the fridge, I'm gonna cook it, nice and bldy rare, and watch it eating this - then buy 3 more tomorrow. Please remind me to eat more meat with these videos, need to get my animal protein intake up 👍👍👍
Look at you getting all triggered. Does animal exploitation make you hungry? Or was it the farmer putting their hand up their bum that made you say “i want more of this”?
What makes me cringe about this is how many beings are killed to grow vegetables... trillions of rats, birds, bugs, blah blah... Seems to be pointless. Plenty of animals killed to protect 10,000 acre farms, if you can imagine it
@@veganpowerlab how is it not exploiting gophers birds squirrels rats bugs etc to destroy them so you get to keep the food? Ie You moved into their place and built 100 acres over there homes and take all the food/resources for that land I'm for exploiting nature
I have a question that i want to ask you since you seem like a honest person. Do you believe in animal rights? If yes, what will vegans do to stop animals from eating other animals?
Why would humans be responsible for the actions of animals? We are only responsible for what we do. Thats rights for animals to be protected from human harm.
@@garibaldi54 was not talking to you. Regardless, I am talking about animal rights and not humans rights. Please read my comment again and try to comprehend it.
@@GarudaLegends I have its a nonsense comment making a pathetic attempt to claim veganism is futile. Animal rights like human rights are a man made concept. And therefore can only be confined to human actions. Theres a reason why we don't arrest an animal if it commits what would be a crime if a human did it. eg we dont hold animals responsible for theft or tresspass.
According to your logic, there should be no chickens, cows, sheep, dogs, or cats "kept" at all. So, they would all die out with a lot of respect. How very ethical!
@@veganpowerlab I think that is exactly what I am saying. Take cows, for instance. I see cows every day. They are calm and relaxed. They are safe, and when they are sick, they are taken care of. They can go outside or stay inside. In the wild, every single one would die a horrible death. They would get sick and die, get torn apart alive by predators, or die of hunger or thirst. Does it come at a cost for the cows? Sure. Do they have a say in this? No. Do you know if they would rather live in the wild? No, you don't. Do I know if they would rather live in a barn? No, I don't. If we both don't know, why do you think you are right?
@@tna-technutamateur8249 I wrote a whole response and youtube remove it.. Ugh.. Okay, annoying.. Let me just ask you this: why do we need to exploit them? Let them live on the field if that's your point. We don't need to USE them in any way..
@@veganpowerlab I believe it is very beneficial for humans to eat meat, eggs, dairy, and fish. This has been our diet for millions of years. I think we utilize these resources, but do not "exploit" them. Yes, you could live without animal products, but there is substantial evidence suggesting that optimal health is achieved by consuming a lot of animal products and reducing the intake of plants. (All plants contain their own natural toxins).
@@tna-technutamateur8249 Show me that evidence, if it is substantial, as you claim... You calling animals resources.. wow... As for dairy.. no, we've been eating that for around 10k years.. Don't kid yourself. But, show me that empirical evidence that says we need to consume more animal products and reduce plant products..
“I respect that and I don’t respect that” - Blonde Woman
Nonvegans in a nutshell 😅
@@veganpowerlab You mean people that eat like 99,996% of people that have ever lived?
@@veganpowerlab Nonvegans? You mean 99.996% of all the people that have ever lived?
Well, they were annoying.
Vegans? Never. They just know they're better than you 🤡 Even though the soy they eat is destroying the planet and humans have evolved to eat animals, why let facts get in the way 😂
vegans usually are
Keep doing what you are doing!! Great content as always 💗💗💗
Thank you so much 🙏🤗💚💚
Incredible activism as always 💚💚💚
Chaos!
Right? Haha
I like that
Nice 1 Cip !
🐣 = 🍽️ = 🛑
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Great outreach cip....shame they couldn't stay longer .
Yeah Málaga is a bit heavy , we're actually going to visit my girlfriends son who lives in a village near Málaga, will go to that awesome vegan restaurant also. 👍👍.
That city definately could do with some vegan outreach.
Omg.. so jealous for you. I hope you have a great time there. That restaurant was def the highlight of my trip there
@@veganpowerlab thanks, we're going next week , but i'll still be able to tune into the streams .Yeah definately looking forward to the restaurant.
thanks so much, Cip. they were interrupting so much, but you are always so very focused and polite.💚🌱
Thank you, Ally! I hope they got something from it 🤗💚
Great outreach, as always 👍🌱
Thank you so much, Curtis 🤗💚
Great video and outreach 💚
Nice job Cip!
Thank you 🙏🤗💚
Great work Cip💚💚💚😊😊😊
All animals want to be safe🥺🥺🥺🐮🐐🦆🐁🐙🐔🐟🐸🐱🐒🐥🐬🐜🐪🐴🐖♥️♥️♥️
Thanks Nataly! 🤗💚 Some of them were open minded. I do hope that the girl in blue will look into it
Freddieai, do you deny that all animals want to be safe?
Wow so many excuses all at once. You did great Cip! I think you inspired them all.
Thanks, Anna! I think that at least 2 of them were genuinely interested. If only they weren’t in such a hurry
"I respect that, but also, I don't respect that"
- average non-vegan(?)
It's utterly insane. "I don't respect that you respect all sentient beings, because I don't"
Cip! I just finished editing my first outreach video.
Will upload on RUclips tomorrow. Will add a few teasers on my IG-story.
Well done Cip 👍🙏✌😊
Thank you! Cheers!🙏🤗💚
.. Poor innocent animals. You don’t want to be in their shoes👈🤥. Longest living people on Earth, are vegan. PIaque forms eating animals. Plant-based/vegans don’t have pIaque ✅♥️😬🐒🐵🦧🦍👱🏼♂️👩🏽😉. Buddhist monks most of them are vegan ✅♥️💪😬😉.. rice, quinoa, beans, and lentils, and oats, fruits and herbs and spices, yeast B12 tablespoon, every day, is the key to healthiness ✅😉..
🥺🥺🥺💔💔💔🐥🐥🐥
Animals deserve to be free of our exploitation 💚🤗
Longest living people are not vegan, it would be closest to Mediterranean diet, Saturated fats includes plant fats from coconut etc, which cause plaques. Only around half of Buddhist sects are vegetarian, mainly Mahayana Buddhism, Theravada and other sects have no restrictions. If you're going to make claims, make them factual, it makes all us vegans look bad
Uhh, the population of Hong Kong has the highest life expectancy in the world and is also the largest consumer of meat. In fact, the list of countries with the highest life expectancy is the same as the list of countries with the highest meat consumption.
@@tna-technutamateur8249 All you've just shown, is you don't understand Hong Kong.
The elderly haven't been consuming meat, it's only a recent change. You're still seeing the effects on old people of a mainly vegetarian lifetime. Also, high standard of healthcare. You should learn facts before posting part of a story... 🤦♂
i envy your patience Cip
Haha.. when I do outreach, it’s like a wave of tranquility comes over me. I guess it’s because I understand the importance of staying calm and trying to send the right message.
After all, when we do activism, we represent veganism and we have to show a good image.
But, thank you so much 🙏🤗💚
Also, I speak as if I never get triggered. I do… almost every time I do outreach. But, once my flow stops, I also stop, just to save my sanity
@@veganpowerlab u live on being triggered ya wet blanket
The dairy milk industry is disgusting. The fact that this (or any) woman can say, "I think I might walk away" because she doesn't want to hear it 🤔🙄😔 she better not join any me too movements or get annoyed if a man treats her like a brood mate.
Implying that because a fish cannot give consent to being eaten, therefore it is unethical to eat fish is absolutely hilarious. You could teach yoga with that reach.
You know how to talk to people, great job 👏 👍 💚🌱
14:51 Ugh 'local farmers' does she think that the abuse happens 'after' the eggs have been harvested? Like its acce[table to buy from the farmers but somehow worse to buy the same product if its gone to a supermarket?
Yeah.. it’s weird how people have this clinging to all things local. Someone at some point mentioned it and now it’s like a miracle trait.
Sarcasm incoming: A product that is local does not exploit animals, it is healthier, better for the environment and the economy.
You are doing awesome work Cip! 🙌🌱💯💚
Much appreciated, Donna 🤗💚
Bros arms are looking swole! Keep up the good fight brother. 💚
Thank you so much 💚🤗
Awesome activism sir! Thank you!!!!
Definitely clip the bit where she says, “let Cip speak”!
"Runs away" lmao
oh the drama XD
I am not an atheist. I just know there’s a God I just refuse to give God a human clan( Christian, Muslim, & etc) . So I find it fascinating that you care. Why do what you do? If there is no God and no point. We are just here then we die. I feel as though God is a big ball of energy and we just get absorbed back into the mainframe and God process the energy and converts it to new life forms like humans, cows, ants and etc.
Just put yourself in the animals position. You wouldn't want whats done to them to yourself. it's about showing compassion, empathy and wanting to protect innocent victims. Be vegan
@@godzilla400yeah I know. Been vegan coming up on my first year. I just haven’t seen an atheist have so much passion for life of other life forms. Just fascinating
@SurTrailDoesAll I think that empathy, the golden rule and the simple understanding that everyone wants to live free of exploitation can exist outside of any deity.
After all, morality doesn’t exist because of religion. Religion exists because of our sense of morality.
@@veganpowerlab I get that. I feel as though God game me this humility. Like if God didn’t exist i honestly wouldn’t want to live( tried to commit suicide multiple times) I felt hopeless because people were cruel to animals and eat h other for no reason. I felt the world’s pain on my shoulders. And through communication with God I was able to alleviate that pain. It was eye opening. I love thinking outside myself, out side the human experience and beyond this planet. God always encourages me to seek knowledge over anything and never power over knowledge. Anyway I hope you watch my soon to come vegan videos and movies. 🥰🤩
And I side note. I follow no religion. Just god. I like to go to remote areas and pray. Be among the animals and nature. And feel the sun on my skin. Connect with what God created and not man made. Gives a lot of clarity. Religion is another man made thing to cause divide and separation of man(like there isn’t enough to separate us, like race, gender, sexuality and so on). Man destroyed this planet to advance man only. Is sickening to be a passenger on this planet I am tired of riding in a car with someone seeing all the death we create and no one cares. I watched a dear rot on the side of the road for months. Looking back I wish I was a better person and gave that deer a proper burial. But I was weak then. With each passing day. I’m trying to build a better world for all life forms not just one. 🙏🏿🙌🏾
This was impressive Cip. You planted seeds in everyone of them
Thanks! One can only hope they’ll act. Some of them seemed interested
Gone sexual
yet they all still eat meat, rightfully so
Great work as usual! Keep it up, you're an inspiration to many of us.
Well done sir! What about a vegan restaurant recommendation at the end? Give them a delicious / easy place to start
Great suggestion!
killing animals is as disgusting as killing innocent unborn children. Did she say she is fpr free choice abortion? Getting married and talking stuff like this . WTF.
Well said. Be vegan everyone 💚💚💚💚💚💚
Be vegan for them! 💚💚
NO
I love the way you build up the discussion❤ vegan for the animals
I made a comment because cip told me to
Haha.. i love it 🤗💚
hes a sap
Nice work, converting multiple people at the same time! :)
It was hard to catch up with everything they were saying, since they were talking at the same time, but it def was a subject they talked before (or so it seemed)
In Germany male baby chicks are not killed.
I'm guessing you mean, straight away
@@veman5409 Search German scientists and Male Chicks Eggs new laws in Germany.
Seems like what you talk about is only available in certain store and only from certain companies.
But, let’s say that even if everyone were to do that, that is still only one part of the issue, as described in the video
It also seems that many companies just switched from hatching eggs in Germany to importing already hatched females. So the males are still killed, just in another country. It basically just moved the problem.
Your other reasons for not consuming eggs were nuts though. And you weren't able to argue them when you were talking with these women. You had to add it in to the video afterwards. If you're not able to argue those points effectively then they're not worth mentioning.
Don't know how I ended up on this video. An honest question. How do vegans rationalize the fact that everything they do, consume, eat, purchase, etc. contributes in one way or another to the death or exploitation of animals? Is it intention or outcome that matters?
Well, not everything we do contributes to animal exploitation
@@veganpowerlab For an extreme example, if you walk, you kill insects. Do insects count? Did you have to take that extra walk? This scales to larger animals as well. Do you need those extra plant calories? Those plant calories result in ending some form of life. So again, is it intention or outcome that matters? Maybe both.
Ban Slaughter
Legend 👊🌱
👊 🤗💚
LOOK AT THE HOUSES !
Was ist das? Machen sie das,weil sie wissen,dass bald Bomben fliegen werden? Creepy.
Runs away🤣🤣🤣🤣
Did she just say that she respected vegans and then five seconds later didn’t respect vegans?
She respects veganism but doesn't respect veganism.
@@soapberryyan then she really doesn’t respect veganism lol
@@SmoothieCleanseWeightLoss exactly 😪
Yeah.. she was a bit drunk. You can’t really tell that from the video
she was wrong first time, nobody respects vegans cos they are insufferable
Wonder what happened to Mel and Steve I haven’t seen any videos posted for a long time
I have.
Cip da man!
We are not ‘’opportunistic Omnivores’’ Chimps and some other monkeys are, but our closest non human relatives are Bonobos, who are Fruitarians. Yes we started using animals as food at some point in the past but that was out of necessity not opportunism, the word Omnivore should never go together with Humans!. The Militant Vegan has recently said we are ‘’Opportunistic Omnivores’’ as well, we need to nip this misinformation in the bud! ✊🏽🌻🌎
Most animals are opportunistic omnivores. Both obligatory carnivores and obligatory herbivores are a rarety in nature. Sheep are opportunistic omnivores. Cows are opportunistic omnivores. Giraffes are opportunistic omnivores. None of these animals will refuse to occasionally snack on a snake or a bird chick if opportunity arises. They just don't deliberately seek those out.
So are we. We are omnivores. We are more than capable of eating both animal and plant based foods.
We and our ancestors have been hypercarnivores for about 2.4 million years. A hypercarnivore consumes around 70-80% animal-based food. We needed fat and meat to develop our large brains. In fact, our entire physiology is adapted to consuming meat and fat. We have a highly acidic stomach, more acidic than most carnivores. This is because we evolved to live off a kill for weeks. Our small intestines are very long, ideal for absorbing all the nutrients from meat and fat. We have a large gallbladder, perfect for digesting large amounts of animal fat. If you don't use it enough, the bile crystallizes and you get gallstones. We do not have a fermenting gut; our appendix is what remains of that. We have a short colon, just for collecting waste. We possess unique skills for hunting and cooperation. Meat has been considered the most ideal food in all societies throughout history. Only among the city dwellers in the West, who are estranged from nature, is veganism a thing.
Try to find any "wild" vegetables; they are a recent invention. Look up natural fruit. In nature, it's only available for a few weeks each year. Wild fruit looks nothing like the fruit you consume today. Modern fruit is essentially a sugary bomb
www.surgeactivism.org/articles/a-study-claims-stone-age-humans-were-hypercarnivores-but-what-does-that-mean-for-our-food-choices-today?format=amp
@@veganpowerlab This does nothing to prove OP and his claim that we aren't in fact omnivores right in any way, shape or form and, therefore, largely irrelevant.
@@veganpowerlab Sure, you can always ignore this and risk your health by eating food made to feed a lot of people, rather than food that is meant to keep you healthy. I’d rather not take that experiment.
I like how you talk about open opinion sharing and changing minds but your is kind of closed! You will be spouting like priest but contrair opinions are negated immidiatly. And then pointing the woman out that leaces the frame at first is also in bad taste, she knows she is an outlier in this konversation and she steps back until the general peopke without specified dieds had their say and comes back when she feels it fits into the convo. And then you actually never talk about her point again. because she was making a good point many people are having problems with allergies towards protein rich veggies, for them to get the nutrients is very important. And one of the most important things for women would be iron. Which is more in meat then in any vegan diet could be.
First of all, there are plenty of sources of plant protein. If you’re allergic to one, there’s another. The same is for iron.
So, then, do you think it’s okay to exploit sentient individuals for optional food?
@@veganpowerlab looks like you really didn't address his point at all.
@@veganpowerlab yes i do and i think you are kidding your self if you think truly vegan products actually exist. because humans are so extremely involved in earth that no product you can buy will ever not be exploiting animals in one way or another, you are just virtue signaling. Your values are just another compromise of how far you will look to not see the harm that animals will get by the products you consume. i am just beeing reallistic about it, and for that you will call me a bad person!
@@kaygeayla What point did I miss in addressing exactly?
@@veganpowerlab i tried already to answer this question but it got deleted, yes i think it is not really an ethical question but philosophical one! Because you are reducing the amount of distressed caused to animals in the making of those alternatives, but no Product that you can buy or make your self can ever truly be "VEGAN" because only if you look into every aspect of production and find NOTHING that point towards animal cruelty or exploitation then you can say vegan. But thats like disproving the existence of god, becuase in some way everything we do effects some animal negativly. Name me one thing that doesn't, i will be able to name you away that negativly effects one animal or another. So it is not a question of "if" but how much, and yes i am ok with the amount of exploitation of animals necessary for me to eat meat and consume animal products!
Typical vegan....telling people how to live their lives...
I'm not really fan of leading questions. It makes sense for peopel, but before doing this, we need to establish if we give same rights and value to animals.
Personally, despite being vegan for over a year while ago, I didn't really do it for animal rights reasons, it was more for environmental and me liking vegan food, overall my opinion is the same. I think we should minimize the suffering of animals, but at the same time I don't really see anything wrong with eating animal products.
Overall, to me we should treat animals based on level of consciousness, I'm personally quite against killing animals like orca, or chimps for food. But I'm not fundamentally against people eating even animals like dogs, I think it's disqusting, but that because they are common pets, not because I have fundunental rationale against some people eating them.
Idk, personally during time I was vegan I watched vegan content extensively. And for me ethical arguments didn't really ever strike home. On other hand environmental did.
Sounds like you’re plant based for the environment, not vegan
Yes, walk away. The best thing to do with an evangelical veganist is to walk away.
Haha.. evangelical veganist? How dare I believe that animals deserve to be free of human exploitation?
@@veganpowerlab Exactly. You're getting it now
@@FreedomTalkMedia do you not understand sarcasm?
vegans are like just stop oil protestors, everyone hates em
Who cares? Standing up for what’s right is what matters
@@veganpowerlab its not right, we eat meat
Thanks for the reminder I have a steak in the fridge, I'm gonna cook it, nice and bldy rare, and watch it eating this - then buy 3 more tomorrow.
Please remind me to eat more meat with these videos, need to get my animal protein intake up 👍👍👍
Look at you getting all triggered. Does animal exploitation make you hungry? Or was it the farmer putting their hand up their bum that made you say “i want more of this”?
What makes me cringe about this is how many beings are killed to grow vegetables... trillions of rats, birds, bugs, blah blah...
Seems to be pointless. Plenty of animals killed to protect 10,000 acre farms, if you can imagine it
Did you know that most crops are grown to feed the animals in the animal agriculture?
@@veganpowerlab why is that bad? I don't have a problem with killing and eating things, isn't that your problem?
@@ericomfg i have a problem with animal exploitation
@@veganpowerlab how is it not exploiting gophers birds squirrels rats bugs etc to destroy them so you get to keep the food? Ie You moved into their place and built 100 acres over there homes and take all the food/resources for that land
I'm for exploiting nature
@@ericomfg i don’t think you know what exploitation is…
I have a question that i want to ask you since you seem like a honest person. Do you believe in animal rights? If yes, what will vegans do to stop animals from eating other animals?
Why would humans be responsible for the actions of animals? We are only responsible for what we do. Thats rights for animals to be protected from human harm.
@@garibaldi54then who the hells is it!?imaginary gods?we're the only intellegence on the planet look into efilism
@@garibaldi54 was not talking to you. Regardless, I am talking about animal rights and not humans rights. Please read my comment again and try to comprehend it.
@@MuhTranshumanroght You think that we can be responsible for the actions of wildlife? About as much as we can be for the weather.
@@GarudaLegends I have its a nonsense comment making a pathetic attempt to claim veganism is futile. Animal rights like human rights are a man made concept. And therefore can only be confined to human actions. Theres a reason why we don't arrest an animal if it commits what would be a crime if a human did it. eg we dont hold animals responsible for theft or tresspass.
According to your logic, there should be no chickens, cows, sheep, dogs, or cats "kept" at all. So, they would all die out with a lot of respect. How very ethical!
Oh, so, what you’re saying is that you exploit and slaughter animals for the good of their species?
@@veganpowerlab I think that is exactly what I am saying. Take cows, for instance. I see cows every day. They are calm and relaxed. They are safe, and when they are sick, they are taken care of. They can go outside or stay inside. In the wild, every single one would die a horrible death. They would get sick and die, get torn apart alive by predators, or die of hunger or thirst. Does it come at a cost for the cows? Sure. Do they have a say in this? No. Do you know if they would rather live in the wild? No, you don't. Do I know if they would rather live in a barn? No, I don't. If we both don't know, why do you think you are right?
@@tna-technutamateur8249 I wrote a whole response and youtube remove it.. Ugh.. Okay, annoying..
Let me just ask you this: why do we need to exploit them? Let them live on the field if that's your point. We don't need to USE them in any way..
@@veganpowerlab I believe it is very beneficial for humans to eat meat, eggs, dairy, and fish. This has been our diet for millions of years. I think we utilize these resources, but do not "exploit" them. Yes, you could live without animal products, but there is substantial evidence suggesting that optimal health is achieved by consuming a lot of animal products and reducing the intake of plants. (All plants contain their own natural toxins).
@@tna-technutamateur8249 Show me that evidence, if it is substantial, as you claim...
You calling animals resources.. wow...
As for dairy.. no, we've been eating that for around 10k years.. Don't kid yourself.
But, show me that empirical evidence that says we need to consume more animal products and reduce plant products..