I know what you mean... Doctor Who being more "up to date" and less of an out of place Edwardian type in the modern world would make anyone die inside... if I want to see memes and stuff I go watch Mini Ladd doing his "German Hardstyle"... *UNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNS* "Cahm to mai Basement" *UNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNS* the word "Fam" is a BIG deterrent if I watched Doctor Who now... (I didn't really watch series 11 as Jodie sort of insulted the fanbase by openly using tweets against people without blanking the names so people could be open to harassment... yeah not a good move, I watched Trial of a Timelord cause I wanted to challenge myself with the math of watching 14 episodes over 10 weeks) as an enthusiast of Doctor Who (don't use fan now... apparently irregardless of my Aspergers the pompous powers high up might not want me...) and as a Sheffielder... it just doesn't sit right, maybe when someone like Ben Whishaw is free...
I think its weird that Chibnall decided to take the main plot points of the Pirate Planet - shrinking planets to keep and a weird monk esque group with superpowers - and yet didn't include the main appeal of the Pirate Planet, it's charm, humour and ambition.
The biggest advantage the pirate planet has over this story is that it was written by Douglas Adams. Seriously, there is no comparing Chibnal to Adams, because Adam's is a legendary writer and from what I've seen of Chibnal's work, Chibnal is a mediocre writer. Hope he proves me and others wrong in series 12, though it must be said I don't think it could beat classic who season 12 even if it was the best nu who series since the popular RTD days.
Iain 97 It’s easier to relate to someone from your own time period than from the distant past or far future. Also, it’s easier to write a character from modern day because you don’t have to do a lot of research beforehand.
Putting efort on building a character with a cool gimick involving him Pfff nah just twrow girl from presend day earth with diversity and some other blokes in the midle to fill space and we'ill be good for the go
Because New Who is yet to have the guts to introduce a companion who isn't a 20 something from contemporary England. And it's been 14 years so that's pretty poor.
Chris Chibnall sure did land himself in a Tsuranga Conundrum. GEDDIT! GEDDIT?... Hello? Is this thing on? Thank you ladies and gentlemen, try the veal and make sure to tip your waitress.
"Did they lose the battle between drafts?" Stu asks.... Chibbers recently revealed that the final version of this episode... was the first draft. His massive massive brain was so pre-occupied with the other scripts that he ran out of time to do another few drafts.
I can't remember who suggested it, might have been votesaxon or full fat videos but they suggested that a good plot point could have been that Graham's inhibitor was broken or malfunctioning which causes the more aggressive streak he has to killing Tim shaw
Series 10 was not a palate cleanser, the palette cleanser has been ridding the taste of Moffat from this franchise. That's what he meant, I said palate cleanser in another video so duno if he got it from my previous comment but that's what I meant by it.
If you enjoyed series 10, then who am I to "yuck on your yum". If you liked it, you liked it. I have not, however, "enjoyed" much of anything this show has produced since about series 4 or 5. And series 10 was only better than anything before it by not having anything as outright insulting as "Hell Bent".
Oh massively. Ive definitely been less enthused at a series before. Like no matter how bland this is I cant forget the second half of Series 6 and 7 exist
The battle was off screen. The Ux woman tells the doctor about it. Tim Shaw appeared, the Ux mistook him to be the ‘creator’ and defended him when ‘they’ came for him and there was a big battle. I assumed that is what the title of the episode refers to.
You mention this episode being a collection of things, that's basically how I have felt for this series overall. I like you found the idea of the planet trying to kill people was the best thing this episode had. Felt like a very classic who idea and if it wad classic who we would have them trying to traverse the planet to get to their goal. Yet its just thrown away Last episode for me it was the mirror world concept that I loved that could have been a full episode. I mean we get longer episodes which i was really excited as sometimes episodes in the past where rushed. But what's the point of longer episodes if we just fill it with filler
The one reaction that any TV show should avoid like the plague is boredom and apathy. Even for most spectacular failures like a Hellbent or the End of Time there's a least a lot of fans getting angry showing that the spark to tell the showrunners to make some serious improvements are at least there to show that the fanbase has an active interest in the show they're watching. Then we get to Chibnall's era which seems to be not bad enough to warrant any sort of outrage but also too unambitious to really shoot for the moon and achieve the high marks that some people seem to praise Series 11 for.
Series 11 had so much potential to start Doctor Who with a clean slate and come back different in tone, story-telling and character development. It was different in some respects: female Doctor, more historically-based stories, no story-arc or huge season-ending threat; but it was also a lot of the same: companions from present-day Earth, rushed endings, too many stories from the showrunner, way too much reliance on the sonic screwdriver and rather run-of-the-mill sci fi concepts. I agree that three companions was too many. The Doctor with only Graham... that would be so much better. Series 11 had some really good moments and the seeds are there for some interesting growth. The question is: what will grow from that seed?
Biggest problem with the Chibnall Era thus far is that it feels more like a majority of the episodes would've been selected as filler episodes of the RTD or Moffat Eras. Its not so much for lack of interesting ideas so much as it is pissing about for 50 minutes while being the sort of Doctor Who episodes you put on while you're doing the laundry, paying the bills or watching on TV because there's literally nothing better to do. Even Moffat at his most MOFFATIEST was at least able to spark something out of people whether it be immense joy or anger, bur at its core it had something going for it more so than setting up characters that only mildly develop over the course of the series as seen in Chibnall's era. I mean you made the comparison between Yaz and Bill but at the very least I could remember the key parts of Bill's time with The Doctor and Nardole whether it be the stuff with Heather, the Monks storyline or her cyber-conversion in World Enough and Time. Ryan's dyspraxia is completely forgotten about outside of a small reference here and there, Graham's grief over Grace only seemed to come up when it was relevant to the ongoing plot of stories like It Takes You Away and Yaz's family ended up getting more development than Yaz herself. Even The Doctor felt more nebulous in her own series which I can understand not wanting to go the angsty route after the 12th Doctor's "Am I a good man?" story arc but Chibnall is really short changing Jodie on the 13th Doctor's characterization. While I do think that Chibnall holds a more consistent management in terms of showrunning, his era strikes me as the kind of Series that lives and dies by its guest writers. Russell was able to get away with most of his run due to having talent like Robert Shearman, Paul Cornell and a Steven Moffat in his prime and Moffat himself was a talent to be beheld alongside the newcomers like Jamie Mathison during his Era. But Chibnall's only two (maybe three) writers to his name seems to be Malorie Blackman, Vinay Patel and the bugger who wrote Kerblam. And given this series Chibnall's writing track record is patchy to say the least. It ultimately lands Series 11 in a spot that's not as terrible as the "OMG! DOCTOR WHO IS DEAD! R.I.P DOCTOR WHO!" crowd makes it out to be, But likewise isn't doing anything spectacular to wow newcomers or returning fans who wanted a fresh start after a lethal dosage of Moffat for over seven years.
What was the point of giving Ryan dyspraxia other than for representation Like he didn’t struggle or have actual issues people with dyspraxia face daily
@@iain9757 Who knows. Optimistically I'd like to think that maybe Chibnall had plans to make it something of a character arc before the whole drama over Grace's death overshadowing that. But in reality I'm sure Chibnall just forgot about it once he started introducing the stuff with Ryan's father and probably only added in those brief lines of dyspraxia into the script just in case people brought it up.
Maybe they should have swapped the two episodes in terms of order? Put the Battle of RAK first, so that we still had a grieving Graham and Ryan motivated by revenge, but finding themselves unable to pull the trigger. That way, the two of them seeing Grace again in "It Takes You Away" would have more impact, after they have brought the villain to justice, but still find it hasn't really given them closure or resolve, at least until they find the chance to say goodbye properly, and thus the arc would feel more complete between the two. Then you have Resolution serving as a suiting epilogue as Graham or Ryan are able to help Ryan's own father come to terms with his own problems.
It was kind of like a straight faced Pirate Planet. Did appreciate the introduction to another god level threat though. Nice to know that the Doctor is no longer the scariest thing in the universe.
early thoughts on resolution? thought it was alright, dont get the love it gets from some but I did have a more positive outlook on the rest of s11 than most
I loved Resolution up until the last ten minutes. The set up for the dalek was amazing. There was a really good atmosphere about it. A dalek out of its casing isn't something the series has explored more than brief flashes so it added something new. The way they destroyed the casing while it could have been paced far far better was still interesting but didn't do anything to damage the dalek brand as it was a ramshackled casing made of earth materials. My biggest problem was the sucked out into the space thing. A dalek in the Tardis is kind of a big deal and I wish they had done far more with it. Would have been better if the Doctor had landed the Tardis on Skaro some few thousand years after the dalek race had ceased to be and let it self destruct at the existential crisis of its failed prime directive. There were some small nitpicks I had with it all the way through. One or two things that could have used just an extra sentence or two of clarification but overall it was pretty good. I do have to say though I absolutely hate the "you have a serious problem with a family member but they are about to die so you forgive them but then they don't die and the forgiveness somehow stands despite them not actually doing anything to earn it" trope. It's so terrible.
6:43 Okay so when series 12 rolls around and they inevitably introduce new ideas and do nothing with them like you said when you review it Could the “you” from this review show up in the TARDIS and realise that nothing will change
I saw the announcement of them doing more stuff with Yaz in series 12 to be them taking on feedback from the series just gone. Yaz and the lack of Classic Monsters are the two big things that people wanted to change in the next series. It was either that or firing everyone who worked on series 11, which is apparently an entirely reasonable suggestion to some people.
If you were ever asked (And you had the time), what would your response be to being asked to be the showrunner or at least a writer of a few episodes like Moffat was originally.
Well... Resolution is Chris Chibnall's best episode of series 11 and possibly his second best episode for Doctor Who as a whole (still think 42 is better since that took risks) but that's not saying much. The Daleks are surprisingly done well and it serves as a better finale to series 11 (begging the question as to why it was made a New Year's Day Special at all since it works better as an episode 11) and Ryan has some development (even it's resolved too quickly) but if you didn't like series 11, this won't sway you. I personally enjoyed it because the Daleks (or Dalek in this case) act like like Daleks again and they do new things with it. Yes the structure is odd, there are a few weak jokes, what they did to UNIT left a bad taste in my mouth and if plot holes are make-and-break for you for some bizarre reason, there is plenty to be found. But at least Chibnall actually tried to do something different, even if it doesn't entirely work and I found this one to be the most enjoyable and memorable episode of series 11, even it wasn't the best.
Resolution was weird This Dalek is more deadly and dangerous than any other Dalek it can take mind control of a body tap in to the Tardis but can lose to a Viking army Then the question of if it lose to them how in the name of hell didn’t the modern army beat it.
Grate video as ever stu I guess that although it's nowhere near the mount Olympus of brilliance that was heaven sent it was on a similar level in terms of visuals. As a budding artist I found my self taking screen shots at almost every scene just for inspiration.
6:43 Okay so when series 12 rolls around and they inevitably introduce new ideas and do nothing with them like you said, when you review it Could the “you” from this review show up in the TARDIS and realise that nothing will change
To add to the growing list of "shit wrong with Chibnall's title names even outside of just their crapness", there were only Arachnids in Sheffield, not the implied entire UK, there was no Conundrum in the Tsuranga Conundrum, and Resolution resolved about as much as anyone expects from a Chibnall episode.
When I watched this episode, I was so excited to see the SniperBots again Previously in The Ghost Monument but they were only in the Episode for 5 Minutes, Hopefully in the next series or in future series we will see the SniperBots again
I always disliked the "If you kill the genocidal space bad guy you become as bad as him" like what? Ow what was that? Wait...OH GOD I'M GROWING TEETH OUT OF MY FACE HELP ME STUART!
I say it to myself all the time. Adrift shook me. Exit Wounds made me weep. I binged Broadchurch. Why the hell can't he do stories like he's done before?
Cause he's used to character driven stories not scifi. Scifi can support a character narrative but you have to know how to use it properly and Chibnall clearly doesn't. He's learning. You can see a marked improvement of how those elements are being used throughout Series 11 but he's not at the point yet where his scripts are solid. I'm just hoping he has enough time to get there before the BBC pulls the plug and gets someone else to do his job.
There was no conundrum in The Tsuranga Conundrum either. This would have been a kind of mediocre story even if it was put in the middle of a series, where clearly belongs, because it really wasn't a series finale in any sense. They didn't have to go for an RTD style big bombastic two parter with a notable villain and a whole episode prior leading into it, but even if you're not making a large scale story it still needs to feel high stakes, which this didn't. Also, this entire series has shown the Doctor to have quite a simplistic and childish view of morality, which is briefly addressed in the episode and resolved by the Doctor saying "no u". The production design and Bradley Walsh's performance are basically the only things that made this even resemble an actual story. Three companions didn't work in the 1980s, and only barely worked in the 1960s, and both of those eras of the show had much, much longer stories. Trying to do it only with 50 minute stories was never going to be a good idea, and only seems to have been done because neither RTD nor Moffat did it. It, like casting Jodie as The Doctor, is just another way for Chibnall to easily set his Who apart from theirs because he has no other ideas. Next time, Chibnall realises that The Battle of Rub Mah Boobies was a shit finale, and tries to compensate by remaking Dalek as a Capaldi-era style finale. It doesn't work.
Do you know what a conundrum is? Because the situation they were in in that episode? That was a conundrum. What next, there were no actual demons with hooves and horns in Demons of the Punjab? No ghosts in the ghost monument?
@@jefferyjones8399 Resolution definitely had some good things going for it, especially the Dalek possession scenes (and Nick Briggs is always good), but the Ryan's Dad plot felt a bit tacked on, and the tackiness of the Dalek prop got in the way of it being threatening, and the scene where the Dalek kills the platoon was so overblown it just looked a bit silly.
Taryn Allan I think that's a matter of this is fresh in the mind. Ranskoor wasn't that bad until about the last ten minutes. It was really solid setup that seemed to realise just after setting everything up that it had ten minutes left in its run time and so slapped on a quick and unsatisfying conclusion. Fear Her is terrible start to finish. It's big conclusion is the Olympic torch and erasing a scribble monster with a pencil.
@@BadWolf739 I've actually watched both episodes within the last six months, and while 'Fear Her' commits the cardinal sin of being boring - which Doctor Who should never be - 'Ranskoor' not only manages to be boring, but actually angered me as I was watching it. I didn't think any aspect of 'Ranskoor' was acceptable; anything even approaching an original idea was quickly glossed over in favour of the most banal plot progression possible. I personally don't think 'Ranskoor' would even have been acceptable as a piece of mid-season filler, never mind a finale. Of course, this is entirely my own experience of the episode, and if other's found something - indeed, anything - to enjoy in the episode then they are better off for the experience than I am.
Dont worry Stuward Everything that the TV show does wrong can be fixed by our god Nick Brigs All hail Big Finish The too many companions thing was one of the things that i was squeptical of
Agree with most of this but the Russel finales really didn’t rely on nostalgia otherwise they wouldn’t have been as popular and hugely prolific as they were
There's no battle with an episode with the word battle in it. Well Chris screwed us over again. However doesn't the battle with the robots and Tim Shaw qualify as a battle or a showdown? So shouldn't the episode be called 'the showdown of the planet with an incredibly long and difficult to pronounce name with unnecessary characters and factors.'?
I sat and watched it waiting waiting wait wa zzzzzz for something wild to happen and between dozes last scene happened and It was over giving me the feelung "Uh wait what happened ? I was watching that! " sigh back to sleep
I see not much has changed for you since the Moffat era. I am glad you're not like a lot of people screaming "WORST SERIES EVER DOCTOR WHO IS RUINED ARRRHGHGH" The series was fine. I am more forgiving than you and enjoyed a number of episodes that you didn't. This exact same thing happened with your Moffat seasons as well. That's fine, I love your commentary and think you're both fair and entertaining. I don't usually expect always agree. I do see it's flaws. I try to explain to others that it does actually have some similar issues that Moffat and even RTD did but most people just shout at me about how I am wrong and apparently Moffat and RTD are infallible geniuses and Chibnall must be fired. I remember people whining very loudly about Moffat "ruining the show" for years and all of a sudden he's amazing because it's always fashionable to hate the new guy.
The writing in general was appalling, and the show has literally lost its balls. It reminds me of SJA, (which I think was a much better show) , same dynamic, (3 Companions, Asian girl, black boy, white boy). And simple silly stories aimed at 10 year olds, with over simplistic endings ...that just end. The only episode I re watched was Rosa, which I hated first time, but thought was OK second, but even that was ruined by Eastenders style drama and SJW rubbish from Ryan and Yaz. It's the TV equivalent of drinking warm flat coke, you know it should be so much better.
Here's a little history lesson, about the show. The very Third episode, ever to be broadcasted, was: 'The Forest Of Fear.' In that episode: 'The Doctor,' 'Ian,' 'Barabra,' and: 'Susan,' are all running through the woods, for their lives, by angry cavemen. They're cold, sweaty, and starting to go insane. During the chase, one of the cavemen hurts himself, and, despite their sanity being on the edge, the companions decide to help him, despite: 'The Doctor's,' protests. 'The Doctor,' fearing the cavemen will recapture them, once they've healed him, picks up a rock, and plans to kill the caveman. Ian stops him, only for: 'The Doctor,' to be proven right, as they're recaptured again. It would have been a nice callback.
Its annoying since torchwoord S1E6 Countrycide is the first seasons best episode and thats chibnall. Hes meant to be able to do stuff if thats anything to go by. I think its the sci fi elements he struggle with. Just me who thinks he needs to co-run the show with a strong sci fi writer?
Tim Shaw just isn’t very threatening and it doesn’t feel like a finale it just sort of ends it doesn’t go out with a bang or anything it just fizzles away
Didn't we resolve the whole Graham Ryan coming to terms with Grace's death and each other with a nice emotional resolution and a genuinely touching moment where Ryan calls Graham Granddad in It Takes You Away? Er yeah... Ah but we are sort of gonna ignore that and do it again with added shooting the baddie in the foot!... And that's better? ... No... Chris, go to your room and think about what you've done. You can come out and say sorry in 2020 and when you do you better be sincere.
I kinda liked this series, but the only one written from Chibnall is The Woman Who Fell to Earth. I totally agree with you when said that you know that he could do better and honastly, the episode one (and Resolution, for me) proves so. Resolution worth being the finally, actually. The Battle seens forced when Graham is once more confronted with Grace's grief, wich dosn't made any sense because "It Takes You Away" looked a clousere to this and was better executed. Chibnall wrote for me the most emotionals bits of Torchwood and they all worked because they where heavy and brutal and true in their way, but here, as showrunner he seens being afraid to dare kill his main character just to be on the "family-show-confortzone", one odd thing since both finaly and Resolution don't do. And honestly, seing the reaction from the audience, he can do better things like those two episodes.
Doctor Who died years ago, this is just the data ghost... "Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?" "Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?" "Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?" "Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?" "Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?" "Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?" "Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?" ... Static noise .... *RIP*
Listening to this made me realise - wasn't there a field on the planet that messed with your brain? Couldn't they have used that somehow to complicate the plot by making Graham kill Tim Shaw? Taking inspiration from a Who Chasers "Doctor Who WHAT IF" video I watched somewhat recently (ruclips.net/video/cj5lTo_76g0/видео.html), what if "The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos" ended like this: ------- *Ranskoor Av Kolos* -> Let's say Graham loses the neural inhibitor while destroying all the robots - it falls off his head because of the shockwave of the huge explosion as he says "yippee-kai-yay robots". -> As Tim Shaw comes to face off against Graham, Graham's mind is in turmoil - faced with his wife's killer while simultaneously being attacked by the planet's neural field thingy. -> This makes him become super conflicted between killing Tim Shaw or being the better man and sparing him. -> As he's struggling with his inner demons, Ryan comes along trying to save his grandad and Tim Shaw turns on him. -> Graham, in his mentally distressed state, about to lose another family member, gets completely mentally overwhelmed and suffers a lapse of judgement. -> He breaks down and shoots Tim Shaw "you've already taken my wife, I won't let you take my grandson too" or something like that, accidentally killing him. -> As a shocked Ryan carries Graham back to the TARDIS, the two of them discover Graham's lost his inhibitor. Ryan gives him his one instead, forgives him instantly, and the two regroup with the Doctor. -> The Doctor, in the spur of the moment (because she's lectured Graham about this before), is less forgiving, saying that (major exposition - which is a theme for this series so I'm letting this one slide) the planet's mental forcefield thingy just brings out the worst in you, but couldn't make you do what you weren't capable of originally - so in her mind Graham is still the one who pulled the trigger, and she believes that he would've pulled the trigger even with the inhibitor still attached. -> Argument ensues, creating tension (for once) between the members of the TARDIS team. -> The Doctor kicks Graham out of the TARDIS. Ryan threatens to leave too, as he's accepted that Graham couldn't have controlled his actions given the circumstances, and just wants to be with whom he considers the only family member he has left. The Doctor reluctantly accepts his decision. *Resolution* -> This then links into the plot of "Resolution" - they get a distress call while the Doctor is dropping Graham off, and investigate the Dalek. Most of the episode would play out as normal. -> They drop Graham off in his flat as Ryan's dad visits. -> Graham defends Ryan's against his dad in front of the Doctor. -> This makes the Doctor reconsider her hasty judgement. Meanwhile, they're investigating the Dalek. Graham is still in his flat because he's still apparently kicked out. -> Towards the end of the episode, she accepts that it was very unlikely (not impossible, but just very unlikely) that Graham would have killed Tim Shaw with the inhibitor, realising that he just cares for his family and nothing else. -> Most of the episode progress as normal - Ryan is going about his things normally in the episode because this is his dad and it's relevant to him. Graham is still in his apartment most of the time because he's still "kicked out". -> Aaron still gets posessed by the Dalek and Ryan is distraught. Seeing this, the Doctor realises that Ryan needs support from his only other family member. -> While Aaron is restrained in the TARDIS, they go back to Graham's apartment and the Doctor explains the situation. Graham comes along straight away - possibly saying "not for you, Doc, but for my grandson" - confirming to the Doctor that Graham cares about his family more than anything. -> Rest of episode plays out as normal and Doctor forgives Graham for killing Tim Shaw, accepting that had he not lost the neural inhibitor at the time, he most likely wouldn't have killed him. Graham is reaccepted back into the TARDIS. ------- I'm not a script writer or anything and there's probably a better way to conclude this alternative plotline, but I feel that this would at least give some meaning to the neural field which the Doctor seemed to be SOOOOO worried about (but didn't even matter in the actual plot besides some mild headaches). It would also create more tension between herself and who I believe to be the best written companion in the series (juxtaposing the whole happy-go-lucky wandering most of the series seemed to be doing), while providing a natural progression between the finale and new year special (we probably won't get to see the cosmic fireworks but hey, we didn't really see much of that anyway so no big loss there). The "Battle" of Ranskoor Av Kolos would then refer to Graham's internal battle with himself as he stands off with Tim Shaw - and shockingly loses because of unforeseen circumstances. This would also give the title "Resolution" some meaning, because it finally resolves Graham's arc after the twist in Ranskoor Av Kolos. Once again (in case anyone needs reminding) this is heavily inspired by the video I linked above so I don't think I can get full credit for the idea lol
This finale didn't really do it for me. I think they may have brought Tim Shaw back too soon. Resolution was a way better finale. I will also say that three companions is probably way too many. I hope either they try to make it better or they get rid of one or two of them.
"I may as well be a God, I have the powers of one" *10 minutes later.* *Gets kneecapped by a sidekick and shoved in a cryochamber like an absolute chump.* What a terrible villain.
Not to put too fine a point on it but you'd probably have more subscribers if you put out content more regularly. Also including your patreon link in the description wouldn't be the worst idea. Sorry, I know it's your channel, just something that occurred to me when I realised how low your sub count was compared to the quality of your videos.
I found this episode to be alright but I think 'The Aftermath Of The Battle Of Ranskoor Av Kolos' would have been a more fitting title (albeit painfully long).
To be honest this is my least favourite new Who episode because it was lazily/badly written and it made me feel nothing. It was dull. As dumb as Fear a Her is at least I found it a little fun. I'm a Moffat apologist/fanboy so none of his episodes I find bad. That pretty much leaves this.
So there was no battle in this episode was there? Big deal. Moffat's 'Let Kill Hitler' barely featured Hitler and yet no-one complained. I agree that season finales got too samey which is why I enjoyed this one. It did not feel forced and tired. Compare this with 'Hell Bent' in which the dramatic highpoint was the Doctor sitting outside a Gallifreyan barn and eating tomato soup wtf?
Because, the: 'Stenza,' was set up, as a: 'Great Warrior,' and, although I haven't seen the episode, from what people said (and showed.), in reviews, he gets defeated, by a shot in the leg.
When someone rips off a major plot mechanic from The Pirate Planet and make one of the biggest jump the shark moments their big finish (the TARDIS towing the Earth) that's bad. When you think its a good idea to do it again and name check said jumping the shark moment I mean, what even... In regard to companion numbers, three is fine but putting them through a selection of one episode stories is where alot of the problems stemmed from.
@Stubagful OH DEAR! You need to do Resolution - God help you! No joke - I watched it and, Oh jesus so many good ideas but ... WHAT THE HELL WENT WRONG? Other than Chibnall watching Hollywood movies that were hits and saying 'Hey that is what people want from Doctor Who - lets do that!' - Godzilla entertains by having Giant Mutants - Lets make the Dalek Mutant Bigger so it looks like a Kaiju!!! Men in Black had a Squid Creature that threw people around and got people laughing - Great! Lets steal that for the Dalek Mutant attacking Police Officers!!! The A-Team and McGuyver were hits making Tanks out of Junk - Great idea... Lets have the Dalek do that! (although that last one to be honest at least is SLIGHTLY sensible and fits the story!!! No one can tell me it wasn't a Stolen idea!!!) HELL EVEN THIS EPISODE STOLE OF PREVIOUS WHO EPISODES... The Shrunken 'Stolen' Planets - THAT WAS DAVROS AND HIS REALITY BOMB FROM SEASON... Oh crap I forget which season.. But You know the one!!! It was a Season Finale!!! It really hurts as while I was Dubious about a Female Doctor - I LIKE JODIE!! I think she is actually doing bloody well with the material she has to work with! Jodie Whittickar isn't the problem... Much as the Anti-SJW crowd claim...
I thought tsuranga was bad but this was terrible and I can’t tell you a single thing that happened during it causs it was just so forgettable and boring
I feel like “theoretically I should love this,” just about sums up my thoughts on the series as a whole.
(Sighs) Yeah...
Yep. Exactly my thoughts as well.
It may be because of the fact that sommething sommething female doctor great has been forced down our trouths
@@bostao4216 No, it's nothing to do with that. It's because of the crap storytelling and lack of characterisation for the Doctor and Yas.
@@karkatvantas9557 what i meant was that he might have thought that he was suposed to like the season because of the thing i've said just before
Never remember this episodes name, so I'll just continue calling it "Tim Shaw 2: Electric Boogaloo"
At least it’s actually pronounceable
@@iain9757 and more accurate
Lol!
Tim Shaw 2 many plot points
Personally, I call it Battle of Forgettable Planet Name.
A little part of me dies inside every time the Doctor says "fam"
Eh, I like it. It sorta works with this socially awkward Doctor who’s just happy to have a bunch of friends with her.
A little part of me dies inside every time *this* Doctor says/does *anything*
Never have I pined more for the days of "Doctor Funkenstein" and "Doctor Disco" to return.
I know what you mean... Doctor Who being more "up to date" and less of an out of place Edwardian type in the modern world would make anyone die inside... if I want to see memes and stuff I go watch Mini Ladd doing his "German Hardstyle"...
*UNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNS* "Cahm to mai Basement" *UNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNS*
the word "Fam" is a BIG deterrent if I watched Doctor Who now... (I didn't really watch series 11 as Jodie sort of insulted the fanbase by openly using tweets against people without blanking the names so people could be open to harassment... yeah not a good move, I watched Trial of a Timelord cause I wanted to challenge myself with the math of watching 14 episodes over 10 weeks) as an enthusiast of Doctor Who (don't use fan now... apparently irregardless of my Aspergers the pompous powers high up might not want me...) and as a Sheffielder... it just doesn't sit right, maybe when someone like Ben Whishaw is free...
makes my two hearts shrivel up and die
Classic Who: running around an empty Binnegar Heath sandpit.
Current Who: running around an empty Ubisoft sandbox.
that is the best summation of anything
@@Stubagful Thats was Greatest Show in The Galaxy and Survival and theyre fucking awesome :p
ZOMG THERE'S EVEN THE UBISOFT TOWER IN IT
No no no classic Who was gravel quarries, get it right.
@@optimisticwhovian1726 yiu have also your good old generic sci-fi spaceship/base
I think its weird that Chibnall decided to take the main plot points of the Pirate Planet - shrinking planets to keep and a weird monk esque group with superpowers - and yet didn't include the main appeal of the Pirate Planet, it's charm, humour and ambition.
The biggest advantage the pirate planet has over this story is that it was written by Douglas Adams. Seriously, there is no comparing Chibnal to Adams, because Adam's is a legendary writer and from what I've seen of Chibnal's work, Chibnal is a mediocre writer. Hope he proves me and others wrong in series 12, though it must be said I don't think it could beat classic who season 12 even if it was the best nu who series since the popular RTD days.
It's only been a few months, but I've completely forgotten what the hell happened in this episode.
NO STUART
the Question isn’t “why did we need 3 companions” more
WHY ARE THEY ALL FROM PRESENT DAY EARTH?
Iain 97 It’s easier to relate to someone from your own time period than from the distant past or far future.
Also, it’s easier to write a character from modern day because you don’t have to do a lot of research beforehand.
Miles Heron ... do you want me to say what I’m first reaction to your comment was ?
Putting efort on building a character with a cool gimick involving him
Pfff nah just twrow girl from presend day earth with diversity and some other blokes in the midle to fill space and we'ill be good for the go
Charlie, Mary, Thomas, Benny, Hex and Erimen where not from present day and they were all interesting characters in their own right.
Because New Who is yet to have the guts to introduce a companion who isn't a 20 something from contemporary England. And it's been 14 years so that's pretty poor.
I think Chibnall shot himself and the series in the foot by playing it waaaay too safe
See what i did there? :p
Yeah, he should have showed a bit more teeth...
Get it? Cause the stenza has teeth in his face and... I'll stop talking.
Chris Chibnall sure did land himself in a Tsuranga Conundrum.
GEDDIT! GEDDIT?... Hello? Is this thing on?
Thank you ladies and gentlemen, try the veal and make sure to tip your waitress.
@@TheSkully343 his job seems to have been done by a robot
Because of Kablam, robots. Do you get it??!!!
@@bostao4216 he will have a battle to get it back in popularity (more of a battle than this episode)
@@peterthompson1989 It takes us away from the enjoyment of Doctor Who...the entire show is becoming a ghost monument as a result...
"Did they lose the battle between drafts?" Stu asks.... Chibbers recently revealed that the final version of this episode... was the first draft. His massive massive brain was so pre-occupied with the other scripts that he ran out of time to do another few drafts.
I can't remember who suggested it, might have been votesaxon or full fat videos but they suggested that a good plot point could have been that Graham's inhibitor was broken or malfunctioning which causes the more aggressive streak he has to killing Tim shaw
Series 10 was a great palate cleanser for the series. It did Series 11's job for it already :L
Series 10 was not a palate cleanser, the palette cleanser has been ridding the taste of Moffat from this franchise. That's what he meant, I said palate cleanser in another video so duno if he got it from my previous comment but that's what I meant by it.
It still had that Moffat feel but its a series that sure as hell lived up to its potential far better than Series 11 did.
If you enjoyed series 10, then who am I to "yuck on your yum". If you liked it, you liked it. I have not, however, "enjoyed" much of anything this show has produced since about series 4 or 5. And series 10 was only better than anything before it by not having anything as outright insulting as "Hell Bent".
10:59 My thoughts exactly. The reaction from the fandom has been over exaggerated whether negative or positive.
Oh massively. Ive definitely been less enthused at a series before. Like no matter how bland this is I cant forget the second half of Series 6 and 7 exist
@@ShelledHandle or Series 2
Yeah and the people who really love and the people who really hate it keep throwing numbers to prove their right
@@ShelledHandle Or the entire Capaldi run the wasn't titled either "Mummy on the Orient Express" or "Heaven Sent"...
@@TheEvilChipmunk Oh yeah I still hate series 9 more than this but I know that one is a lot more polarizing. Liked series 2 though
The battle was off screen. The Ux woman tells the doctor about it. Tim Shaw appeared, the Ux mistook him to be the ‘creator’ and defended him when ‘they’ came for him and there was a big battle. I assumed that is what the title of the episode refers to.
You mention this episode being a collection of things, that's basically how I have felt for this series overall.
I like you found the idea of the planet trying to kill people was the best thing this episode had. Felt like a very classic who idea and if it wad classic who we would have them trying to traverse the planet to get to their goal. Yet its just thrown away Last episode for me it was the mirror world concept that I loved that could have been a full episode.
I mean we get longer episodes which i was really excited as sometimes episodes in the past where rushed. But what's the point of longer episodes if we just fill it with filler
S11 has just been mediocre at best, at least Moffat still kept things entertaining
Zak Rosenfeld i think that’s called Stockholm syndrome
@@iain9757 no it's a little thing called hindsight
Jeez never thought i would agree with the setence: "I Miss Mofat"
The one reaction that any TV show should avoid like the plague is boredom and apathy.
Even for most spectacular failures like a Hellbent or the End of Time there's a least a lot of fans getting angry showing that the spark to tell the showrunners to make some serious improvements are at least there to show that the fanbase has an active interest in the show they're watching.
Then we get to Chibnall's era which seems to be not bad enough to warrant any sort of outrage but also too unambitious to really shoot for the moon and achieve the high marks that some people seem to praise Series 11 for.
He was so entertaining I droped the show out of anger and disappointment
Series 11 had so much potential to start Doctor Who with a clean slate and come back different in tone, story-telling and character development. It was different in some respects: female Doctor, more historically-based stories, no story-arc or huge season-ending threat; but it was also a lot of the same: companions from present-day Earth, rushed endings, too many stories from the showrunner, way too much reliance on the sonic screwdriver and rather run-of-the-mill sci fi concepts. I agree that three companions was too many. The Doctor with only Graham... that would be so much better. Series 11 had some really good moments and the seeds are there for some interesting growth. The question is: what will grow from that seed?
Biggest problem with the Chibnall Era thus far is that it feels more like a majority of the episodes would've been selected as filler episodes of the RTD or Moffat Eras.
Its not so much for lack of interesting ideas so much as it is pissing about for 50 minutes while being the sort of Doctor Who episodes you put on while you're doing the laundry, paying the bills or watching on TV because there's literally nothing better to do.
Even Moffat at his most MOFFATIEST was at least able to spark something out of people whether it be immense joy or anger, bur at its core it had something going for it more so than setting up characters that only mildly develop over the course of the series as seen in Chibnall's era.
I mean you made the comparison between Yaz and Bill but at the very least I could remember the key parts of Bill's time with The Doctor and Nardole whether it be the stuff with Heather, the Monks storyline or her cyber-conversion in World Enough and Time.
Ryan's dyspraxia is completely forgotten about outside of a small reference here and there, Graham's grief over Grace only seemed to come up when it was relevant to the ongoing plot of stories like It Takes You Away and Yaz's family ended up getting more development than Yaz herself.
Even The Doctor felt more nebulous in her own series which I can understand not wanting to go the angsty route after the 12th Doctor's "Am I a good man?" story arc but Chibnall is really short changing Jodie on the 13th Doctor's characterization.
While I do think that Chibnall holds a more consistent management in terms of showrunning, his era strikes me as the kind of Series that lives and dies by its guest writers.
Russell was able to get away with most of his run due to having talent like Robert Shearman, Paul Cornell and a Steven Moffat in his prime and Moffat himself was a talent to be beheld alongside the newcomers like Jamie Mathison during his Era.
But Chibnall's only two (maybe three) writers to his name seems to be Malorie Blackman, Vinay Patel and the bugger who wrote Kerblam. And given this series Chibnall's writing track record is patchy to say the least.
It ultimately lands Series 11 in a spot that's not as terrible as the "OMG! DOCTOR WHO IS DEAD! R.I.P DOCTOR WHO!" crowd makes it out to be, But likewise isn't doing anything spectacular to wow newcomers or returning fans who wanted a fresh start after a lethal dosage of Moffat for over seven years.
What was the point of giving Ryan dyspraxia other than for representation
Like he didn’t struggle or have actual issues people with dyspraxia face daily
@@iain9757 Who knows.
Optimistically I'd like to think that maybe Chibnall had plans to make it something of a character arc before the whole drama over Grace's death overshadowing that.
But in reality I'm sure Chibnall just forgot about it once he started introducing the stuff with Ryan's father and probably only added in those brief lines of dyspraxia into the script just in case people brought it up.
Chibnall came out a couple years ago and admitted this script was a first draft
Please review the trial of the timelord soon as I would love to hear your opinion on the 14 part epic
Maybe they should have swapped the two episodes in terms of order? Put the Battle of RAK first, so that we still had a grieving Graham and Ryan motivated by revenge, but finding themselves unable to pull the trigger. That way, the two of them seeing Grace again in "It Takes You Away" would have more impact, after they have brought the villain to justice, but still find it hasn't really given them closure or resolve, at least until they find the chance to say goodbye properly, and thus the arc would feel more complete between the two. Then you have Resolution serving as a suiting epilogue as Graham or Ryan are able to help Ryan's own father come to terms with his own problems.
It was kind of like a straight faced Pirate Planet. Did appreciate the introduction to another god level threat though. Nice to know that the Doctor is no longer the scariest thing in the universe.
Are you going to do more Big Finish stuff?, you're the one who got me into Big Finish
Eoin Cullen-O'Neill I do hope so
👆 what he said. You got me into Big Finish. Please do more videos about them 🙏
early thoughts on resolution?
thought it was alright, dont get the love it gets from some but I did have a more positive outlook on the rest of s11 than most
I loved Resolution up until the last ten minutes. The set up for the dalek was amazing. There was a really good atmosphere about it. A dalek out of its casing isn't something the series has explored more than brief flashes so it added something new. The way they destroyed the casing while it could have been paced far far better was still interesting but didn't do anything to damage the dalek brand as it was a ramshackled casing made of earth materials. My biggest problem was the sucked out into the space thing. A dalek in the Tardis is kind of a big deal and I wish they had done far more with it. Would have been better if the Doctor had landed the Tardis on Skaro some few thousand years after the dalek race had ceased to be and let it self destruct at the existential crisis of its failed prime directive.
There were some small nitpicks I had with it all the way through. One or two things that could have used just an extra sentence or two of clarification but overall it was pretty good. I do have to say though I absolutely hate the "you have a serious problem with a family member but they are about to die so you forgive them but then they don't die and the forgiveness somehow stands despite them not actually doing anything to earn it" trope. It's so terrible.
6:43
Okay so when series 12 rolls around and they inevitably introduce new ideas and do nothing with them like you said when you review it
Could the “you” from this review show up in the TARDIS and realise that nothing will change
I saw the announcement of them doing more stuff with Yaz in series 12 to be them taking on feedback from the series just gone. Yaz and the lack of Classic Monsters are the two big things that people wanted to change in the next series.
It was either that or firing everyone who worked on series 11, which is apparently an entirely reasonable suggestion to some people.
Now I'm worried he's gonna not like Resolution too much.... Ahhh
If you were ever asked (And you had the time), what would your response be to being asked to be the showrunner or at least a writer of a few episodes like Moffat was originally.
Well... Resolution is Chris Chibnall's best episode of series 11 and possibly his second best episode for Doctor Who as a whole (still think 42 is better since that took risks) but that's not saying much.
The Daleks are surprisingly done well and it serves as a better finale to series 11 (begging the question as to why it was made a New Year's Day Special at all since it works better as an episode 11) and Ryan has some development (even it's resolved too quickly) but if you didn't like series 11, this won't sway you.
I personally enjoyed it because the Daleks (or Dalek in this case) act like like Daleks again and they do new things with it.
Yes the structure is odd, there are a few weak jokes, what they did to UNIT left a bad taste in my mouth and if plot holes are make-and-break for you for some bizarre reason, there is plenty to be found. But at least Chibnall actually tried to do something different, even if it doesn't entirely work and I found this one to be the most enjoyable and memorable episode of series 11, even it wasn't the best.
Chibnall and best in the same sentence?
Yeah I really enjoyed resolution.
Resolution was weird
This Dalek is more deadly and dangerous than any other Dalek it can take mind control of a body tap in to the Tardis but can lose to a Viking army
Then the question of if it lose to them how in the name of hell didn’t the modern army beat it.
When Chris starts writing his eyes turn milk white and the buttons on his keyboard press themselves randomly, and autocorrect does the rest.
Skeleytonz hey do that long enough you get the works of William Shakespeare
Grate video as ever stu
I guess that although it's nowhere near the mount Olympus of brilliance that was heaven sent it was on a similar level in terms of visuals. As a budding artist I found my self taking screen shots at almost every scene just for inspiration.
6:43
Okay so when series 12 rolls around and they inevitably introduce new ideas and do nothing with them like you said, when you review it
Could the “you” from this review show up in the TARDIS and realise that nothing will change
Yaz is totally wasted and frankly adds nothing to the Tardis crew.
If there was any character that could be cut, sadly she would not be missed
Why won't they get Omega or Sutekh the Destroyer?
You'll be surprised by Resolution.
Yaz is sort of the Nyssa of the group. I at least can describe them both more than I can early era Clara.
To add to the growing list of "shit wrong with Chibnall's title names even outside of just their crapness", there were only Arachnids in Sheffield, not the implied entire UK, there was no Conundrum in the Tsuranga Conundrum, and Resolution resolved about as much as anyone expects from a Chibnall episode.
Walrus is in the Matrix plus arachnids in the uk was a plan on Anarchy in the uk BUT THEY DIDNT EVEN USE THE SONG when they had a perfect chance too
Using the TARDIS felt like a cop out in a way
Hasn't that always been the case? Along with the sonic screwdriver?
Connor Wood ... true
@@connorwood9211 That's what Deadlocks and suchlike are for. For stopping the Sonic Screwdriver from solving the plot immediately.
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer Then why wasn't the Pandorica ever Deadlocked?
the episode should have been titled the following
Exodus of the Ux
Living on a Prayer
The Road Not Taken
If "Planet with psychotropic atmosphere" isn't brought back... I'll be annoyed.
I thought the grace arc was handled really well. In particular in arachnids in the UK
Yes. I have to agree with Stewart. Speeches are Best when Short.
When I watched this episode, I was so excited to see the SniperBots again Previously in The Ghost Monument but they were only in the Episode for 5 Minutes, Hopefully in the next series or in future series we will see the SniperBots again
I always disliked the "If you kill the genocidal space bad guy you become as bad as him" like what?
Ow what was that? Wait...OH GOD I'M GROWING TEETH OUT OF MY FACE HELP ME STUART!
I feel asleep watching The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos. I have never fallen asleep watching Doctor Who before.
How does this video have comments from three days ago?
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Zach Brown I'm jealous
I pay Stuart for ... “services”...
Is the creators of red dwarf around, because i think the RD layout would be great for dr who
...
Chibnall said no returning Monsters in Series 11
Why not Big Finish Monsters ?
Different copyrights, a whole bunch of different licenses
Zak Rosenfeld I know but just think
Imagine Nobody No One vs 13
Iain 97 Oh GOD YEAH!
Or bring in the Eleven
@@francisbarraclough959 the Eleven is a bloody amazing and he (or she) needs to appear in New Who
I say it to myself all the time. Adrift shook me. Exit Wounds made me weep. I binged Broadchurch. Why the hell can't he do stories like he's done before?
Cause he's used to character driven stories not scifi. Scifi can support a character narrative but you have to know how to use it properly and Chibnall clearly doesn't. He's learning. You can see a marked improvement of how those elements are being used throughout Series 11 but he's not at the point yet where his scripts are solid. I'm just hoping he has enough time to get there before the BBC pulls the plug and gets someone else to do his job.
Things that could be interesting but actually go nowhere: welcome to almost every episode of this season.
There was no conundrum in The Tsuranga Conundrum either.
This would have been a kind of mediocre story even if it was put in the middle of a series, where clearly belongs, because it really wasn't a series finale in any sense. They didn't have to go for an RTD style big bombastic two parter with a notable villain and a whole episode prior leading into it, but even if you're not making a large scale story it still needs to feel high stakes, which this didn't. Also, this entire series has shown the Doctor to have quite a simplistic and childish view of morality, which is briefly addressed in the episode and resolved by the Doctor saying "no u". The production design and Bradley Walsh's performance are basically the only things that made this even resemble an actual story.
Three companions didn't work in the 1980s, and only barely worked in the 1960s, and both of those eras of the show had much, much longer stories. Trying to do it only with 50 minute stories was never going to be a good idea, and only seems to have been done because neither RTD nor Moffat did it. It, like casting Jodie as The Doctor, is just another way for Chibnall to easily set his Who apart from theirs because he has no other ideas.
Next time, Chibnall realises that The Battle of Rub Mah Boobies was a shit finale, and tries to compensate by remaking Dalek as a Capaldi-era style finale. It doesn't work.
Do you know what a conundrum is? Because the situation they were in in that episode? That was a conundrum.
What next, there were no actual demons with hooves and horns in Demons of the Punjab? No ghosts in the ghost monument?
I thought Resolution was quite good.
@@jefferyjones8399 Resolution definitely had some good things going for it, especially the Dalek possession scenes (and Nick Briggs is always good), but the Ryan's Dad plot felt a bit tacked on, and the tackiness of the Dalek prop got in the way of it being threatening, and the scene where the Dalek kills the platoon was so overblown it just looked a bit silly.
Honestly, I thought 'The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos' was the single worst televised episode of Doctor Who since 'Timelash'.
Fear Her
@@BadWolf739 As poor as that episode was, and goodness knows it was poor, I'd sooner sit through 'Fear Her' again than 'Ranskoor'.
Taryn Allan I think that's a matter of this is fresh in the mind. Ranskoor wasn't that bad until about the last ten minutes. It was really solid setup that seemed to realise just after setting everything up that it had ten minutes left in its run time and so slapped on a quick and unsatisfying conclusion. Fear Her is terrible start to finish. It's big conclusion is the Olympic torch and erasing a scribble monster with a pencil.
@@BadWolf739 I've actually watched both episodes within the last six months, and while 'Fear Her' commits the cardinal sin of being boring - which Doctor Who should never be - 'Ranskoor' not only manages to be boring, but actually angered me as I was watching it. I didn't think any aspect of 'Ranskoor' was acceptable; anything even approaching an original idea was quickly glossed over in favour of the most banal plot progression possible. I personally don't think 'Ranskoor' would even have been acceptable as a piece of mid-season filler, never mind a finale. Of course, this is entirely my own experience of the episode, and if other's found something - indeed, anything - to enjoy in the episode then they are better off for the experience than I am.
Are you joking? Did you not see Fear Her, Love and Monsters, The Doctor, The Widow, and the Wardrobe, or Hell Bent?
Dont worry Stuward
Everything that the TV show does wrong can be fixed by our god Nick Brigs
All hail Big Finish
The too many companions thing was one of the things that i was squeptical of
I don’t know remember when he tried to make a female doctor.
@@jonathanbermudez546 If Jodie does Big Finish afterward it will probably be quite good.
Jeffery Jones did you ever listen to Exile?
@@jonathanbermudez546 people seem to hate this one
Agree with most of this but the Russel finales really didn’t rely on nostalgia otherwise they wouldn’t have been as popular and hugely prolific as they were
There's no battle with an episode with the word battle in it. Well Chris screwed us over again. However doesn't the battle with the robots and Tim Shaw qualify as a battle or a showdown? So shouldn't the episode be called 'the showdown of the planet with an incredibly long and difficult to pronounce name with unnecessary characters and factors.'?
What if the 'battle' was in Graham's mind of whether to kill Tim Shaw or not?
@@medichampion328 meh that too.
The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos is Graham's inner battle over whether or not he'd kill Tzim-Shaw.
More like the public's inner battle over turning off the TV or not
Nice insight
Spot-on review. Damn.
The Silence were absolutely great.
6:28 HE PULLS TO OPEN!!!
What was the point of sticking metal bits on the characters ?
It's fancy finally shit
They explained it in the episode. If you watched it, you would know.
WHAT TOOK SO LONG.
All jokes aside, yh fucking hell I enjoyed your opinions again. Series 11 has been shit, eh?
I sat and watched it waiting waiting wait wa zzzzzz for something wild to happen and between dozes last scene happened and It was over giving me the feelung "Uh wait what happened ? I was watching that! " sigh back to sleep
And it only took 434 views before the comments became hyperbolic on series 11
I want to get the world record - 1 view and its just me calling myself the cword over and over again
I actually quite like it takes you away I think it's a very underrated story in my opinion
"To be begrudgingly continued" 😄. I didn't mind this episode, but it didn't wow me. It wasn't really finale material.
I see not much has changed for you since the Moffat era. I am glad you're not like a lot of people screaming "WORST SERIES EVER DOCTOR WHO IS RUINED ARRRHGHGH"
The series was fine. I am more forgiving than you and enjoyed a number of episodes that you didn't. This exact same thing happened with your Moffat seasons as well. That's fine, I love your commentary and think you're both fair and entertaining. I don't usually expect always agree. I do see it's flaws. I try to explain to others that it does actually have some similar issues that Moffat and even RTD did but most people just shout at me about how I am wrong and apparently Moffat and RTD are infallible geniuses and Chibnall must be fired. I remember people whining very loudly about Moffat "ruining the show" for years and all of a sudden he's amazing because it's always fashionable to hate the new guy.
"Showruiner"
The writing in general was appalling, and the show has literally lost its balls. It reminds me of SJA, (which I think was a much better show) , same dynamic, (3 Companions, Asian girl, black boy, white boy). And simple silly stories aimed at 10 year olds, with over simplistic endings ...that just end. The only episode I re watched was Rosa, which I hated first time, but thought was OK second, but even that was ruined by Eastenders style drama and SJW rubbish from Ryan and Yaz. It's the TV equivalent of drinking warm flat coke, you know it should be so much better.
When Moffat failed it's because four ideas smashed together in an unsatisfying way, but at least there were some ideas.
To be honest the tardis vfx shots in the series are better than the whole series xD
Here's a little history lesson, about the show. The very Third episode, ever to be broadcasted, was: 'The Forest Of Fear.' In that episode: 'The Doctor,' 'Ian,' 'Barabra,' and: 'Susan,' are all running through the woods, for their lives, by angry cavemen. They're cold, sweaty, and starting to go insane. During the chase, one of the cavemen hurts himself, and, despite their sanity being on the edge, the companions decide to help him, despite: 'The Doctor's,' protests. 'The Doctor,' fearing the cavemen will recapture them, once they've healed him, picks up a rock, and plans to kill the caveman. Ian stops him, only for: 'The Doctor,' to be proven right, as they're recaptured again.
It would have been a nice callback.
Its annoying since torchwoord S1E6 Countrycide is the first seasons best episode and thats chibnall. Hes meant to be able to do stuff if thats anything to go by. I think its the sci fi elements he struggle with. Just me who thinks he needs to co-run the show with a strong sci fi writer?
Exactly, Chris can do better that this, I hope he make an improvement in Series 12. I will still watch Doctor Who :D
Tim Shaw just isn’t very threatening and it doesn’t feel like a finale it just sort of ends it doesn’t go out with a bang or anything it just fizzles away
Didn't we resolve the whole Graham Ryan coming to terms with Grace's death and each other with a nice emotional resolution and a genuinely touching moment where Ryan calls Graham Granddad in It Takes You Away? Er yeah... Ah but we are sort of gonna ignore that and do it again with added shooting the baddie in the foot!... And that's better? ... No... Chris, go to your room and think about what you've done. You can come out and say sorry in 2020 and when you do you better be sincere.
I kinda liked this series, but the only one written from Chibnall is The Woman Who Fell to Earth. I totally agree with you when said that you know that he could do better and honastly, the episode one (and Resolution, for me) proves so. Resolution worth being the finally, actually. The Battle seens forced when Graham is once more confronted with Grace's grief, wich dosn't made any sense because "It Takes You Away" looked a clousere to this and was better executed.
Chibnall wrote for me the most emotionals bits of Torchwood and they all worked because they where heavy and brutal and true in their way, but here, as showrunner he seens being afraid to dare kill his main character just to be on the "family-show-confortzone", one odd thing since both finaly and Resolution don't do.
And honestly, seing the reaction from the audience, he can do better things like those two episodes.
Doctor Who died years ago, this is just the data ghost...
"Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?"
"Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?"
"Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?"
"Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?"
"Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?"
"Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?"
"Hey, Who Turned Out The Lights?"
... Static noise ....
*RIP*
I agree and nice callback
There wasn't any big Yaz plot in Series 12.
Listening to this made me realise - wasn't there a field on the planet that messed with your brain? Couldn't they have used that somehow to complicate the plot by making Graham kill Tim Shaw? Taking inspiration from a Who Chasers "Doctor Who WHAT IF" video I watched somewhat recently (ruclips.net/video/cj5lTo_76g0/видео.html), what if "The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos" ended like this:
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*Ranskoor Av Kolos*
-> Let's say Graham loses the neural inhibitor while destroying all the robots - it falls off his head because of the shockwave of the huge explosion as he says "yippee-kai-yay robots".
-> As Tim Shaw comes to face off against Graham, Graham's mind is in turmoil - faced with his wife's killer while simultaneously being attacked by the planet's neural field thingy.
-> This makes him become super conflicted between killing Tim Shaw or being the better man and sparing him.
-> As he's struggling with his inner demons, Ryan comes along trying to save his grandad and Tim Shaw turns on him.
-> Graham, in his mentally distressed state, about to lose another family member, gets completely mentally overwhelmed and suffers a lapse of judgement.
-> He breaks down and shoots Tim Shaw "you've already taken my wife, I won't let you take my grandson too" or something like that, accidentally killing him.
-> As a shocked Ryan carries Graham back to the TARDIS, the two of them discover Graham's lost his inhibitor. Ryan gives him his one instead, forgives him instantly, and the two regroup with the Doctor.
-> The Doctor, in the spur of the moment (because she's lectured Graham about this before), is less forgiving, saying that (major exposition - which is a theme for this series so I'm letting this one slide) the planet's mental forcefield thingy just brings out the worst in you, but couldn't make you do what you weren't capable of originally - so in her mind Graham is still the one who pulled the trigger, and she believes that he would've pulled the trigger even with the inhibitor still attached.
-> Argument ensues, creating tension (for once) between the members of the TARDIS team.
-> The Doctor kicks Graham out of the TARDIS. Ryan threatens to leave too, as he's accepted that Graham couldn't have controlled his actions given the circumstances, and just wants to be with whom he considers the only family member he has left. The Doctor reluctantly accepts his decision.
*Resolution*
-> This then links into the plot of "Resolution" - they get a distress call while the Doctor is dropping Graham off, and investigate the Dalek. Most of the episode would play out as normal.
-> They drop Graham off in his flat as Ryan's dad visits.
-> Graham defends Ryan's against his dad in front of the Doctor.
-> This makes the Doctor reconsider her hasty judgement. Meanwhile, they're investigating the Dalek. Graham is still in his flat because he's still apparently kicked out.
-> Towards the end of the episode, she accepts that it was very unlikely (not impossible, but just very unlikely) that Graham would have killed Tim Shaw with the inhibitor, realising that he just cares for his family and nothing else.
-> Most of the episode progress as normal - Ryan is going about his things normally in the episode because this is his dad and it's relevant to him. Graham is still in his apartment most of the time because he's still "kicked out".
-> Aaron still gets posessed by the Dalek and Ryan is distraught. Seeing this, the Doctor realises that Ryan needs support from his only other family member.
-> While Aaron is restrained in the TARDIS, they go back to Graham's apartment and the Doctor explains the situation. Graham comes along straight away - possibly saying "not for you, Doc, but for my grandson" - confirming to the Doctor that Graham cares about his family more than anything.
-> Rest of episode plays out as normal and Doctor forgives Graham for killing Tim Shaw, accepting that had he not lost the neural inhibitor at the time, he most likely wouldn't have killed him. Graham is reaccepted back into the TARDIS.
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I'm not a script writer or anything and there's probably a better way to conclude this alternative plotline, but I feel that this would at least give some meaning to the neural field which the Doctor seemed to be SOOOOO worried about (but didn't even matter in the actual plot besides some mild headaches). It would also create more tension between herself and who I believe to be the best written companion in the series (juxtaposing the whole happy-go-lucky wandering most of the series seemed to be doing), while providing a natural progression between the finale and new year special (we probably won't get to see the cosmic fireworks but hey, we didn't really see much of that anyway so no big loss there). The "Battle" of Ranskoor Av Kolos would then refer to Graham's internal battle with himself as he stands off with Tim Shaw - and shockingly loses because of unforeseen circumstances. This would also give the title "Resolution" some meaning, because it finally resolves Graham's arc after the twist in Ranskoor Av Kolos. Once again (in case anyone needs reminding) this is heavily inspired by the video I linked above so I don't think I can get full credit for the idea lol
This finale didn't really do it for me. I think they may have brought Tim Shaw back too soon. Resolution was a way better finale. I will also say that three companions is probably way too many. I hope either they try to make it better or they get rid of one or two of them.
Why didn't he just use the Shakri, a monster he'd already set up long before he became showrunner than has so much potential.
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"I may as well be a God, I have the powers of one"
*10 minutes later.*
*Gets kneecapped by a sidekick and shoved in a cryochamber like an absolute chump.*
What a terrible villain.
Not to put too fine a point on it but you'd probably have more subscribers if you put out content more regularly. Also including your patreon link in the description wouldn't be the worst idea. Sorry, I know it's your channel, just something that occurred to me when I realised how low your sub count was compared to the quality of your videos.
When has Stuart ever said he cares about subscribers
And when have Sub counts ever mattered ?
I found this episode to be alright but I think 'The Aftermath Of The Battle Of Ranskoor Av Kolos' would have been a more fitting title (albeit painfully long).
To be honest this is my least favourite new Who episode because it was lazily/badly written and it made me feel nothing. It was dull. As dumb as Fear a Her is at least I found it a little fun. I'm a Moffat apologist/fanboy so none of his episodes I find bad. That pretty much leaves this.
As someone who really likes series 11. It’s sucked to end on such a lame, limp note as this episode. I like the next one though, so that’s alright.
4 months late but I really liked this episode and I don't get the hate for it anyone care to explain?
So there was no battle in this episode was there? Big deal. Moffat's 'Let Kill Hitler' barely featured Hitler and yet no-one complained. I agree that season finales got too samey which is why I enjoyed this one. It did not feel forced and tired. Compare this with 'Hell Bent' in which the dramatic highpoint was the Doctor sitting outside a Gallifreyan barn and eating tomato soup wtf?
Chibnal just needs to be out there. He needs to try something. He should do something like a Silurian companion or something.
They should’ve brought back the slitheen
I enjoyed Tim Shaw a lot more in this episode
Who dies from a shot to the leg. #GreatWarrior!
I don’t understand what your comment has to relate to mine
Because, the: 'Stenza,' was set up, as a: 'Great Warrior,' and, although I haven't seen the episode, from what people said (and showed.), in reviews, he gets defeated, by a shot in the leg.
Well, I assume that laser was made out of:
100% SHEFIELD STEEL!
@@carealoo744 He's not dead. Graham and Ryan imprisoned him for life inside his own stasis booth.
FWIW I quite like the NY special.
Imagine if it had been set in New York?
Ah, yes.
The Battle Of Ravishing Bollocks.
Then again, "Ravishing" implies that it was even minorly brilliant.
How about 'rancid'?
Sorry Chibnall, if you don´t take your villain seriously enough to credit him with a funny name, don´t expect me to
The series was just fine just fine but it's rapidly fading from my memory with each passing day which isn't a good sign.
Hope now you realise how much you took Moffat’s writing for granted!
I do think series 11 has dropped in quality since series 10, significantly.
This was the series that made me give up on New Who.
When someone rips off a major plot mechanic from The Pirate Planet and make one of the biggest jump the shark moments their big finish (the TARDIS towing the Earth) that's bad. When you think its a good idea to do it again and name check said jumping the shark moment I mean, what even...
In regard to companion numbers, three is fine but putting them through a selection of one episode stories is where alot of the problems stemmed from.
@Stubagful OH DEAR! You need to do Resolution - God help you! No joke - I watched it and, Oh jesus so many good ideas but ... WHAT THE HELL WENT WRONG?
Other than Chibnall watching Hollywood movies that were hits and saying 'Hey that is what people want from Doctor Who - lets do that!' - Godzilla entertains by having Giant Mutants - Lets make the Dalek Mutant Bigger so it looks like a Kaiju!!! Men in Black had a Squid Creature that threw people around and got people laughing - Great! Lets steal that for the Dalek Mutant attacking Police Officers!!! The A-Team and McGuyver were hits making Tanks out of Junk - Great idea... Lets have the Dalek do that! (although that last one to be honest at least is SLIGHTLY sensible and fits the story!!! No one can tell me it wasn't a Stolen idea!!!)
HELL EVEN THIS EPISODE STOLE OF PREVIOUS WHO EPISODES... The Shrunken 'Stolen' Planets - THAT WAS DAVROS AND HIS REALITY BOMB FROM SEASON... Oh crap I forget which season.. But You know the one!!! It was a Season Finale!!!
It really hurts as while I was Dubious about a Female Doctor - I LIKE JODIE!! I think she is actually doing bloody well with the material she has to work with! Jodie Whittickar isn't the problem... Much as the Anti-SJW crowd claim...
I thought tsuranga was bad but this was terrible and I can’t tell you a single thing that happened during it causs it was just so forgettable and boring
This was a really boring episode
Just like the previous nine.
@@robalexander8065 I kinda enjoyed Alan Cummings and The Frog