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Peace be with you! Your channel is soo much fun to watch! Thank you for reviewing the Philodo. Recently I've learned of an ebike company, E-Street Bikes, who offer high powered ebikes. E-Street Bikes sells 2-Moped Style ebikes, the Street Swiper (Hard tail) and the Tempest Dual Battery (Soft tail). The manufacturer is claiming that their motor - single motor - output is 1500W Continuous 5000w peak (52 V 35A Integrated Speed Controller)! Perhaps E-Street Bikes can ship you a review unit. Thanks again.
After a lipo battery fire roasted my 96 chevy truck interior, I decided to buy one of these instead of a new truck. (I plan to rebuild the truck this spring since the fire didn't get into the dash or engine compartment.) Since I live less than 3 miles from work this bike seemes like a great solution! I'm also kinda stoked to not constantly feed that 5.9 dinosaur juice guzzler! From all the videos I've seen I think I'm gonna love it! I also fly FPV drones and I'm extremely excited to fly many of the local locations I simply can't drive to in my truck! I paid about $1500 (with tax) and it gets here this Friday! Thanks for the review!
Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
Approaching 10,000 miles on mine and still going strong. My dual battery setup took care of the range. I rode 92 miles 1/2 on pas 3 then rode back on pas 4 and still showed 2 bars over the 1/2. I did make some mods like chain ring change and freewheel upgrade. The rest is stock. Overall the bike has been awesome.😀
All those miles on the stock seat post with no rear suspension? That's probably the first thing I'd hafta upgrade, but love the idea of a dual battery setup for it, I'm stuck between one of these and a Roadrunner V2, bout the same max speed and range, only the roadrunner be more compact and easier to take into places with me, but the torque on this bike looks incredible and has me debating
@@Ramsas154 If you go to my freewheel change video and check the description you will find the ones I used. ruclips.net/video/QmDPl9Xyc84/видео.html Hope that helps 😀
Controller key P01=003 (back light level) P02=000 (KMH or MPH) P03=048 (voltage) P04=010 (screen timeout 10 minutes) P05=005 (first number = when the motor helps 0 or 1, 5 = levels) P06=29.0 (tire size) P07=086 (? Not sure) P08=100 (speed limit in kmh) P09=000 (0 motor helps immediately when you peddle) P10=002 (0 is pedal assist only, no throttle, 1 is throttle only, 2 is both) P11=001 (sensitivity of peddle assist 1-24, 1 is the highest) P12=005 (intensity of power delivery 1-5, 1 is the most) P13=005 (number of magnets on crank sensor 5,8 or 12) P14=012 (max amp draw of controller) P15=38.0 (under voltage cutoff, 38v vs. 48v) P16=002 (reset ODO, hold mode button and ODO returns to 0) P17 = 00 (cruise control) P18 =01 (walk boost)
This bike is a beast. Well built and fast!! I'm 6'4 280lbs and i love it. On sale on Amazon now for $1,200. No need to spend a ton of money on an ebike. Lots of people on youtube getting incredible miles on one.
@@mikec4308 That scenario only happens if you use the throttle all the time, this bike is designed to be pedaled. and under PAS only the rear motor is active, the AWD kicks in under throttle, so most of the time you're only powering one motor, which does wonders for range. I personally have gotten 30 miles out of it in PAS 4 while pedaling. with battery still left. I do a daily 13 mile commute that only uses one bar of the battery meter. at the same PAS 4 (25 mph) speed. I save PAS 5 for when I need it as even pedaling it will hit 32 mph ... 35 with throttle and AWD.
I’ve had this bike for about 6 months now. Got it for 1700 off of Amazon due to it being on sale. Range wise has been amazing for me with about 30 miles of distance and still over half battery left over when I was done.
i've got The same bike. I changed The crankset and added a single 46t chainring. Had to solder a different kind of pedal sensor because The stock sensor would not fit. I upgraded The Back shifter and derailleur, hotwired The key ignition and connected a way better throttle. I also added a better battery mount and The battery does not wobble anymore while riding. After all of these changes The bike is an absolute BEAST!
I also have had this bike for a few months and was going to take it to my local shop to have some changes made. What kind of battery mount did you use?
@@DropkickDemonI ordered an aluminium bracket from aliexpress that goes under the battery mount, and it has screw holes for the mount. With this bracket you can add 2 tube clamps to make The battery mounting way more sturdy. I had to place the secondary controller behind the saddle, because the bracket added a bit of extra height and lifted the battery up about 2cm. With The original placement of the secondary controller it was quite difficult to remove the battery without fear of bending a battery contact or causing too much strain to the controller wires.
It's exactly the same as the Keteles K800 bike. Except the Keteles's have a off switch for the front wheel hub and no hydraulic brakes. I did a bunch videos of a hill climes, woods paths and a very rock beaches etc, here in Newfoundland Canada. I have yet to go on a trail that this bike has failed. Popa blue shirt has over 6000 miles on his according to his videos. Enjoyed your ride once again. Good job.
Thanks for the great review, after a couple of years of trying to figure out which one of these things I'm going to get and finally have the money to get it this is it. This fat tire Electric bicycle has a positive 2000/4000 and 5000 review from a guy on RUclips. The only thing that went wrong at 4,000 miles was a reflector came off of one of the pedals. 2-year warranty and supposedly the support is responsive. It's currently selling for $400 off the list price of 1899 dollars with free shipping. The first modification I'm going to get or addition to it is the shock absorber spring seat which he said completely changed his riding experience for the better. I learned that you don't want a rear suspension on an e-bike because even the most expensive rear suspension Monoshock style are prone to worn-out bushings and just wear out from all of the abuse. And it's not just the shock absorber bushings that connect to the frame component it's also the other bushings that are part of the bicycle the frame itself that the shock is not attached to. I'll be honest and say that there are other better looking bikes but for the price and the warranty and the reviews I don't care about the looks. I need this to get back and forth to work.
@@KMK-p8bI didn’t see that one but that makes this purchase much better. Probably add a second battery. Can’t wait for mine to show up. Gunna go have some fun. In the snow and around the mountains.
That's a beast! I just bought a motorcycle style e-bike, I live at the beach, really want to get in on the beach! All the sand in the parts kinda worries me, that looks very fun
Dude! What a fantastic video! That beach-run segment was better than most Hollywood movies! - Seriously, so real and exhilarating. I was on that bike! - Thank you very much, aaaaand I'm gettin' one! Lol
I totally agree that the two smaller chain rings on the front are pretty much useless, unless your battery dies. Then you might need them just to be able to pedal the bike lol😅 this bike is good for people that live in the desert, and people that live in the snowy mountains.
Triple chain ring, beyond being useless, is bad for using up handle bar and putting +/- out of reach. Non-integrated battery and controllers , bad too. Front one won't last long offroad. You need a motor switch ideally that allows front wheel alone too. Battery is ok. 5 seconds 0-20, maybe 4 seconds with pedalling is a great use of power. You can cut off a lot of traffic with that, and 5 seconds at 2000w is as much power as 10 seconds at 1000w, so you get places much faster, without having to cruise above 20mph to get good range. There are a lot of used bikes that could be modded up into this bike. Once you decide on heavy instead of light, direct drive motors are the way to go. Though I like their balance decisions this bike made. Great review. Loved your hill climb attempts. Definitely shows the value of dual motor (sand performance also due to dual motor mostly). Would have loved to see you try and use that small chain ring to pedal up that monster. A fun, or video, idea for you would be something around that hill. Same or other bikes with pedaling. e-mtb workout fun.
Yeah similar price here in the UK, considering one as an upgrade to my 1000w single motor bike that has lasted 2 rough winter seasons here in the UK and is used in literally any weathers. I have lots of hills on my work commute and it slows down a lot so having dual motors and a larger battery would be nice.
@@Electricdirtbikes21 the only thing you should be laughing at is your name. Always some goofy MF who thinks there an outlaw. What are you like 13 years old kid.
The H8 has cruise control and you can adjust the power availibility in the program PO8. This bike is not really for pedaling Its like a Caddy if you add a seat shock. Range is about 20 miles full out at 25 to 34.7 mph and hills are climbed easily. the best way to get range and perfomance is to run at 25mph and let your momentum carry you and pulse the throttle to maintain speed and you will get about 30mph. The best way to check your range is by looking at your voltage, a full charge is 54.9 volts and will go down around 42 volts. A full charge coupled with a positive mental attitude will yield much fun!
For range I use PAS 4 while basically ghost pedaling.. carries me at 25 mph using just the rear motor... while more on reserve if i kick it up to PAS 5
From Powell River BC Canada Michael Simard here saying huge thanks to all the work you do I am a full time dad I have disability that kept me from a 9to 5 so I decided to focus on the hobbies I chose RC and found a fam like no other. Your doing this where there’s a few others that do bike advertisements and yet you do so well. What a inspiration ☺️👍👍🤘this is why I always look at RUclips for info when I decide something. Thing is I just got a fat wheel folding 48 volt e bike and I wish I looked at all your vids first but I luckily got the best type that suits my riding style 👊😎 My dad got one similar to 😊 one goes 32 mph and mine is 30 mph tops I will test mine soon to see what distance it gets on a charge I’m excited 🎉😊
I think the main theme of awd bikes is that you should have a way to turn down the power of the front hub for launching. I believe the Fabulous bikes have that front power adjustability. But a Fabulous bike you're looking at $2,800
I have one of these bikes , a little less torque in take off would be nice but once you get a mile a hour it takes off and away you go. No spinning of the front tire . I really like the bike but I have no place to ride around my neighborhood ,bad traffic!
When you start from standing still, with just pedaling (no throttle) you will not get launched like a rocket. I also have an awd, and i don't mind it most of the times that the frontwheel spins a little bit. But yes it can be annoying. Also you have to watch out in corners. Take it easy on the throttle.
AWD only engages under throttle, if you are using pedal assist the rear wheel does all the work. Though there is something cool about spinning the front wheel off the line when you twist the throttle in PAS 5
Excellent review brother. I wish all were like you. Because of your review, I ended up buying one. Love It so far except for the display not resetting the Trip Meter. Philodo Customer service sent me a replacement and it is still not resetting the trip meter after the bike has been powered off.
I just bought the Philodo H7 and am very impressed with its hill-climbing ability here in Vermont. Love this very affordable beast. Hope you test one someday.
Poppa Blue Shirt just got 10000 miles on it in 8 months. I got the Kettles k800 version, which is the same but has a front wheel on and off switch. I enjoy the AWD.
This bike lasted me 2000 miles before i fried the motor while aggressively driving it through snow banks and torturing it via throttle, i absolutely trashed this bike and it managed to last me 2000 miles… costed me $1800 amd if i treated it better id still have it today, fixed it and sold it i now own a eunorau (double the price) but this philodo seems pretty reliable if you don’t torture it like i did
The wheels aren't built right on that bike. The spoke tabs aren't all supposed to be facing the same direction, they're supposed to alternate in and out.
@TailHappyTV I think you should do a quick re-review of this bike with controller setting P14 changed from the default 12 Amps which limits both motors to 575 Watts, to either a more reasonable 20 amps (960 watts per motor) which I set my bike to or even 25 amps (the controller rating) which would allow 1200 watts per motor. It might be capable of more but the battery is limited to a 50 amp draw 25 amps from each motor. It won't affect top speed since that RPM limited but should make a difference in acceleration, hill climbing and in sand performance
I may try this when I get all the parts in for the dual battery mod on my "similar" bike (ZEEGR S1). I have mine is currently "de-tuned" to 31 MPH, so I don't stress the single battery pack. But once I have two batteries of 48V 22.4 AH (each) in place, it will be time to bump it back to 35 MPH and higher controller current. The second battery is going to be installed on the luggage rack behind the seat.
Philodo Just came out with a brand new bike... the Jumbo, imagine this but with full front and rear suspension, Dual 23 Amp Hour batteries, a full color display, only 1 front chain ring ... currently listed for $2500 on their website. any chance @TailHappyTV might get one to review
When you use the pedal it uses the rear wheel the throttle uses both. I bought one for my wife 5ft 4in 45 kg to clime the long hill we have and this thing goes right up at 25 mph her old bike 500 watt walmart special would just quit.
It's built like my DIY bikes. Just put a switch to front controller positive to turn off and on front motor. Dual motors are good for the nitrous switch when needed. Some of these 4 inch fat tire bikes rim widths are only 2.2 inches you can put 3 inch wide tires on them reduce weight and drag.
Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
@@KevinAsher-zo2qz Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
Without knowing anything... The controller looks to house 2 18 amp controllers. Wow! Two controller cases. Neat. That's a bunch of amps more than I guessed. But the mounted case looked like it could hold 2 of the 17-18 amp controllers.😂 That's what I get for commenting mid video.
If you spot this comment, just curious: deciding between this and the Velotric Nomad 1. Price difference comes out to just $50 now, $1450 for the velotric after tax, H8 for $1499 all in with shipping. Wanting something fun as hell but practical enough to fetch a few groceries with and leave the car parked. Which would you go with for a 1.5 mile work commute 3-4 days a week? Edit: Price on the H8 just dropped a bit further with a coupon. $1360 now before tax, same as the nomad after tax.
I would go with this, way more powerful than nomad, remember nomad can only go 25 mph top speed, which isn’t even class 3 top speed at 28 mph, which is very disappointing.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 totally; way ahead of ya! I ordered the SMLRO xdc600, which is the same exact bike (SMLRO makes the frame, philodo/others resell it after customization). Ended up saving a bit more compared to the H8, $1150 after tax.
I realized something about the speed cutoffs in the various PAS modes, they're multiples of 10 km/h in mph... 1 is 10 kph, 2 is 20 kph, 3 is 30 kph... etc
you must get this question all the time - but do you sell any of these bikes after your done with the reviews. I am looking for a daily commuter bike like this one.
Man, thanks for another great review! - I'd definitely consider this one. You should try and get a Road Warrior X2 60v bike from Fabulous EBikes of Canada... I'd LOVE To see a review of that one! - You could do a 3-way review of the Wired Freedom, the Philodo H8, and the Road Warrior X2 60v.
@@Animalwon Hey and thanks for replying. I know about the other channel and I'm a subscriber to it too... Looking back through the back catalog, I have NOT seen a review of the fabulous AWD 60v Road Warrior tho. If he's done it, i'd love a link.
I have that slow start on my pholodo h8 as well if you riding the bike and come to a stop within seconds if you gas it again you'll have full throttle on that front wheel I don't really care for this slow start set up so I put a 35 amp controller for the rear sandwich 2 controllers that came with the bike into the bag
@2:26: I guess a buyer won't be using a suspension seat post on this bike, as they typically come sized in either 27.2mm, 30.9mm, or 31.6mmm - *NOT* the 30.4mm that this bike's frame expects for a seat post. That's sad, because it looks like a capable bike, but that permanent hard-tail setup is going to be BRUTAL off road.
My recommendation is to buy a seat post with a smaller diameter, and then grab an adapter for like five bucks. This is the exact method I used to make my seat post compatible with many of the ebikes I have.
Dude you must be 6'3 because I'm 5'11 and I have to adjust the seat to min to mount this bad boy. Anyway I weigh about 350 or so and the bike does not seem to care. 32mph max on flat and 25 on incline 30deg.> . I do help the bike if it starts dropping mph up hill witch is not often. The light is great but you have to adjust it just right or you will blind people or out run your light to stopping distance in the dark. I almost want to call myself this products torture tester. I know I will not get the 30-40mile range because of my weight but the fact this bike doesn't even flinch with the torque is awesome. I am sorry I didn't see this vid before purchase so you could have collect some promotional dabloons. 23mil. on the odo since 10-29-23 (delivery and assemble was on the 29th) and I love this bike. If the Batt. lasts a year+ This will exceed my expectations.
Keteles and SMLRO are 95% the same bike as the PHILODO. It alone is Much cheaper than a Wired. The cheapest price for the SMRLO is at $1150. shipped, When compared to the Wired $2500 with insurance,shipping, taxes, $1350 difference between the two.
Would you say the single suspension is a deal breaker? I have a non electric mountain bike and the dual suspension is a big difference compared to single suspension
My Keteles k800 is essentially the same bike only I have a switch to choose from one wheel or all-wheel. Frames and components are all nearly identical. $1450. It's fast even with a 300lb guy on it.
@@mobilephone4045 the front wheel only works under throttle. Believe me you don't want the front wheel to run under pedal assist, it would be very dangerous.
Right now there is a bill in the California legislature requiring licensing registration plates, and liability insurance for people. That drive E bikes. And that’s just the beginning because California goes all the other states will go well most of them and we can thank you and people like you.
Ive got a very similar bike just under a different brand. And with mine the both motors are on when you use throttle. If you only use peddle assist, then only the rear motor engages. Im guessing its the same on this bike
Love the video but had a different experience with the support staff. As in I have been trying to get help with the bike I bought and have not heard back going on 2 weeks.
Sorry to say but you have no comprehensive idea about what this bike really is. It is a powerhouse monster made to climb and to go fast and accellerate even on slopes and it is made to eat away rough terrains like none. You consume all the battery quite fast IF you throttle all the way, but not if you just go with pedal assist. I have this thing, the white version, quite modified by myself... a treasure. I think very few bikes can handle mountain and or slope like this one. The size and the weight grant much more stability than those flimsy little one motor only bicicle I see everywhere. Plus... throttle is like NITRO here :-) I'm very happy about this thing.
Hi Matt 👋 Just wondering if you have done a review on the smlro v3 1000w dual motor yet? As i cant find a video on your channel. I live in the uk and most of the bikes you review wont ship here 😔 which is a shame as there has been some really nice ones that look awesome aswell as pack a punch! Anyway if you haven't done a review of the smlro v3 could you?
For those mentioning being able to disable the front wheel. according to Papa Blue Shirt the front motor only engages while using the throttle and uses the rear only in pedal assist. though i never saw this actually demonstrated by turning the pedals with the wheels raised
No, it is back wheel only in pedal assist. And both wheels when using the throttle. I've tested it all out. I can drive around with the throttle using the rear wheel while the front motor is unplugged. Also, PAS is disengaged when using the throttle. I have been driving around in PAS and it would quit working. It has always been that I had my throttle ever so slightly turned. It was enough to kill PAS but not enough to engage motors with the throttle. I would release the throttle and PAS returns after a second or so if I had kept pedaling. I like it like this. I use pedal assist mostly. The 1000w motor handles most everything. Tough hills, fast starts, and dogs are the reasons that I mostly use the throttle(both motors).
@@soonerthebetter2361hi,I have one and my front motor dosent run, I pulling up a nd give the troatle and only the back motor world I dhont have 3 miles yet. Do I need to do something alse...
@@twinge2254 I think with the same battery as the freedom this could reach same speeds . Which I think the freedom has a 60v battery, I think this bike could be a good buy for the price , looks like the controller is easy to upgrade and same as better to reach higher sports than 40mph
@@twinge2254I have the same bike basically and it’s dual motors with one controller and it’s a 20 amp controller. Tops out at 30mph. Should I get a 30mph controller or would I risk damaging somethign
@@nikogrimaldi7495 that’s odd it tops out at 30mph having dual 1000w motors. You could definitely upgrade your controller for higher amp and later on bigger battery
@@UtubeSurfer7 yeah I’ve been thinking abt getting a bigger controller but I’m not rlly sure what to get or how to do it idk much abt this stuff. I was thinking about getting a 30mph controller but I wouldn’t know how to switch out the wires and stuff. I also don’t know if it needs a2000 watt controller or 1000 because the one that came with the bike doesn’t have watts on it
AWD isn't something I really need in my terrain. Some of the routes I take require riding some gravel. That front tire spin in a gravel corner would be sketchy to me. The Wired Freedom is working out good for me! One caveat- the Wired is a BIG bike. Website says Freedom fits down to 5'4", but I'm about 5'8" and i'm on my very tippy-toes with the seat fully dropped. I'm thinking it would fit a 6+ foot person better. unless you have abnormally long legs. It's a blast to ride though!
Don't discount the benefits of an AWD bike as simply gift for sand. The biggest benefit I found is for AWD is acceleration. Your getting a cheap ebike that accelerates from 0-30 at the rate as many much more expensive higher power ebikes. Though the top ends not as powerful, having a bike that can accelerate that important 0-30mph quickly is really really helpful when riding on the road.
@@azutori You're right! The Freedom will be way too tall for you. I'm not sure what the seat height of their step-through is for sure, but it's also a hardtail(like most step-throughs) if that matters to you. The Magicycle Deer is an interesting concept; step-through WITH full suspension, but it's also more $$$ than a WIred bike. Maybe Wired will bring out another model some day that's a little more friendly to us "vertically-challenged" folks! Lol
Yeah the Philodo H8 had the exact same accel time as my Wired Freedom, but at a lower price. Weights are pretty much identical too. It's a ton of fun to ride, but realistically I really should have gotten a smaller-framed bike for my height. I'm 5'8" or so, and tippy-toe to touch the ground with the seat all the way down on the Freedom. My next Ebike will definitely be shorter! @@donvee2000
The totally screwed me over I bought 2 bikes and both had issues and I was ghosted by Philodo when i asked them to repair my new bikes. I had to take them to a local biike shop to get them fix at my own expence.
Ive been watching your ebike test for a long time but I did watch another review from another RUclipsr who showed a Walking Speed test on the bike. I'm trying to picture and Ebike that I could pull a beach cart out on the beach with while walking the bike! I'm in Alabama and along the Gulf Coast we cannot ride a Ebike on the beach but we can walk one! Anyway, I love your videos and reviews and if you could add this feature to your test, I would greatly appreciate it!!!!
The only reason that gearing was specd is because it's cheap to buy in bulk. Im assuming that's a stamped chainring, square tapered bb, non tapered headtube. Just standard cost cutting
Standard off he shelf parts are the appeal of this e-bike. I replaced both the crankset and flywheel for around $50.00. Parts for this bike should be available for years to come.
I dont need a fast bike because over 25 scares me to death. Im a speed demon but on trains, planes (which I will never fly on again), and automobiles. I like the powers because it does me good on hills. Im 5'6 150lbs. Kept its speed on a huge hill and more importantly, I have to learn how to control the throttle. Full tilt the whole time is going to get me killed.
Could l you please specify some options in this price range that has similar specs? I just bought this bike and it's pretty powerful, helps me get on the road at decent speeds without feeling like I'm holding down the traffic too much. Also helps me go up and down some really steep roads with little effort. Only asking cause I'm still within the return period and wouldn't mind returning this for a cheaper one that does the same job
I'm not sure you will find a cheaper one like this one, I've checked several times. I have one also and I'm not sending it back ,don't have a good place to ride traffic is terrible! No respect for bike riders! We have bike trails but you have to drive long ways to get to them.
Out of curiosity, are most of the e-bike people bikers in general? As a skater I never got into biking. Dirt biking sure, but I’d go do trails in Sundance when I was younger. Only to get out of the house. I moved to a small small small small small town less than 50 people. There’s so many ways to go around to the mountains. Can’t wait to explore and have fun in the snow with this. Debating on a battery for just in case, and also debating on buying 2 more tires so I can stud them and go have fun in the frozen lakes :p
im not even getting 20 miles to a charge on mine, ive got 2, the other one gets 25 miles and thats really putting it at the end. ive had the bike about 4 months so idk if philodo will do anything, ive put close to 200 miles on mine and at worst ive gotten 8 miles. at best ive gotten 20. 25 if i use the other philodo bike battery both bought at the same time. wondering if we got a bad batch of batteries. psi is 15-18, weather in the 60's not really windy and not steep hills.
Look at the Fucare Libra...there is space to mount a 72v triangle battery behind the seatpost and another 48v shark battery on the downtube mounts with a battery balancer to even out the voltage....no voltage sag experienced for using as a delivery vehicle. Range anxiety is gone as well.
@@Tom-ol5zz front motor is only engaged while under throttle, it uses just the rear if you pedal, so unless you're only using the throttle you'll be fine
For those who have it, I’m 6’0 dude that’s 265 (currently losing weight). My question is, should I lose the weight first then get it or get it and lose the weight with the E-bike? I just want to know so I don’t damage it as fast
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My. Front motor dosent mueve, do I need to do anything? PLASE help me
@@leyendanumismatica make sure it's connected and are you pealing the bikeor using the throttle?
1:05 For those concerned about the Battery, it's a ChamRiderr unit that uses Samsung INR21700 cells so probably safe and reliable
If it’s not UL certified, then battery safety is a still a concern, that’s the whole point of UL certification.
@@blackwhirlwind1245even ul certification doesn't mean invincible 😅 you're a clown
@@blackwhirlwind1245it is UL certified
took mine for it's first 13 mile test ride this morning... absolutely love it
You paid way to much I could get 3 for what you paid for 1 😅😂😅😂
@@user-ms8xp4dx2kthat’s what I’m thinking too it’s so cheaply made
@@user-ms8xp4dx2k 3 of what?
@@user-ms8xp4dx2k what do you mean?
@@user-ms8xp4dx2k okay try buying 3 of these for £1399 lol.
Peace be with you! Your channel is soo much fun to watch! Thank you for reviewing the Philodo. Recently I've learned of an ebike company, E-Street Bikes, who offer high powered ebikes. E-Street Bikes sells 2-Moped Style ebikes, the Street Swiper (Hard tail) and the Tempest Dual Battery (Soft tail). The manufacturer is claiming that their motor - single motor - output is 1500W Continuous 5000w peak (52 V 35A Integrated Speed Controller)! Perhaps E-Street Bikes can ship you a review unit. Thanks again.
After a lipo battery fire roasted my 96 chevy truck interior, I decided to buy one of these instead of a new truck. (I plan to rebuild the truck this spring since the fire didn't get into the dash or engine compartment.)
Since I live less than 3 miles from work this bike seemes like a great solution! I'm also kinda stoked to not constantly feed that 5.9 dinosaur juice guzzler!
From all the videos I've seen I think I'm gonna love it!
I also fly FPV drones and I'm extremely excited to fly many of the local locations I simply can't drive to in my truck!
I paid about $1500 (with tax) and it gets here this Friday!
Thanks for the review!
i think i found your youtube chsnnel where you show off you own Hi8
Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
One of your best reviews 🤘🏻
Approaching 10,000 miles on mine and still going strong. My dual battery setup took care of the range. I rode 92 miles 1/2 on pas 3 then rode back on pas 4 and still showed 2 bars over the 1/2. I did make some mods like chain ring change and freewheel upgrade. The rest is stock. Overall the bike has been awesome.😀
All those miles on the stock seat post with no rear suspension? That's probably the first thing I'd hafta upgrade, but love the idea of a dual battery setup for it, I'm stuck between one of these and a Roadrunner V2, bout the same max speed and range, only the roadrunner be more compact and easier to take into places with me, but the torque on this bike looks incredible and has me debating
Love your channel because of you I also did the dual battery upgrade and plan on doing more. Almost 600 miles on mine though.
He has a suspension seat post on his @@mythoti
Hey, what kind of chainring and freewheel did you used?
@@Ramsas154 If you go to my freewheel change video and check the description you will find the ones I used.
ruclips.net/video/QmDPl9Xyc84/видео.html
Hope that helps 😀
Controller key
P01=003 (back light level)
P02=000 (KMH or MPH)
P03=048 (voltage)
P04=010 (screen timeout 10 minutes)
P05=005 (first number = when the motor helps 0 or 1, 5 = levels)
P06=29.0 (tire size)
P07=086 (? Not sure)
P08=100 (speed limit in kmh)
P09=000 (0 motor helps immediately when you peddle)
P10=002 (0 is pedal assist only, no throttle, 1 is throttle only, 2 is both)
P11=001 (sensitivity of peddle assist 1-24, 1 is the highest)
P12=005 (intensity of power delivery 1-5, 1 is the most)
P13=005 (number of magnets on crank sensor 5,8 or 12)
P14=012 (max amp draw of controller)
P15=38.0 (under voltage cutoff, 38v vs. 48v)
P16=002 (reset ODO, hold mode button and ODO returns to 0)
P17 = 00 (cruise control)
P18 =01 (walk boost)
I think P07 is some kind of assembly speed test. I have P07 in my notes as 'don't touch.'
What is max amp draw of controller?
@@StefanRandall There are 2 controllers 20 amps each +/- 1 amp.
@@TheCvp33 27 +/- 2 amps, Matt shows it at 5:10 in the review
This bike is a beast. Well built and fast!! I'm 6'4 280lbs and i love it. On sale on Amazon now for $1,200. No need to spend a ton of money on an ebike. Lots of people on youtube getting incredible miles on one.
one battery with dual motors = low range and it looks like a DIY ebike
@@mikec4308 That scenario only happens if you use the throttle all the time, this bike is designed to be pedaled. and under PAS only the rear motor is active, the AWD kicks in under throttle, so most of the time you're only powering one motor, which does wonders for range. I personally have gotten 30 miles out of it in PAS 4 while pedaling. with battery still left. I do a daily 13 mile commute that only uses one bar of the battery meter. at the same PAS 4 (25 mph) speed. I save PAS 5 for when I need it as even pedaling it will hit 32 mph ... 35 with throttle and AWD.
I’ve had this bike for about 6 months now. Got it for 1700 off of Amazon due to it being on sale. Range wise has been amazing for me with about 30 miles of distance and still over half battery left over when I was done.
I’m 5’2 would this be for me please answer
@@BenStenson No, the minimum seat height is way too high. This is a large bike.
@@addertooth1fuck! I’m only 5 foot! I hope I don’t look like a mijet when I’m out on the street 😅
@@BenStensonno
Fit me 4foot 6?
18:55 I've watched this over and over and I still can't see how the bike stopped.
Oh I get it now
what bike?
Same at 1340
i've got The same bike. I changed The crankset and added a single 46t chainring. Had to solder a different kind of pedal sensor because The stock sensor would not fit. I upgraded The Back shifter and derailleur, hotwired The key ignition and connected a way better throttle. I also added a better battery mount and The battery does not wobble anymore while riding. After all of these changes The bike is an absolute BEAST!
I also have had this bike for a few months and was going to take it to my local shop to have some changes made. What kind of battery mount did you use?
@@DropkickDemonI ordered an aluminium bracket from aliexpress that goes under the battery mount, and it has screw holes for the mount. With this bracket you can add 2 tube clamps to make The battery mounting way more sturdy. I had to place the secondary controller behind the saddle, because the bracket added a bit of extra height and lifted the battery up about 2cm. With The original placement of the secondary controller it was quite difficult to remove the battery without fear of bending a battery contact or causing too much strain to the controller wires.
@@DropkickDemon❤Definitely will be getting one. Looks every bit worth the investment.❤
Zombie at 8:48
It's exactly the same as the Keteles K800 bike. Except the Keteles's have a off switch for the front wheel hub and no hydraulic brakes.
I did a bunch videos of a hill climes, woods paths and a very rock beaches etc, here in Newfoundland Canada.
I have yet to go on a trail that this bike has failed.
Popa blue shirt has over 6000 miles on his according to his videos.
Enjoyed your ride once again. Good job.
The keteles is 1000w and this one is 2000, not sure what you mean it's the same
What no it’s not the Keetles k800 is a 2000w awd
youre right my bad@@Hshshdhehhehehew
@@HouseofGausss all good
The Keteles K800 is currently $400 less than the Philodo H8.
Thanks for the great review, after a couple of years of trying to figure out which one of these things I'm going to get and finally have the money to get it this is it. This fat tire Electric bicycle has a positive 2000/4000 and 5000 review from a guy on RUclips. The only thing that went wrong at 4,000 miles was a reflector came off of one of the pedals. 2-year warranty and supposedly the support is responsive. It's currently selling for $400 off the list price of 1899 dollars with free shipping. The first modification I'm going to get or addition to it is the shock absorber spring seat which he said completely changed his riding experience for the better. I learned that you don't want a rear suspension on an e-bike because even the most expensive rear suspension Monoshock style are prone to worn-out bushings and just wear out from all of the abuse. And it's not just the shock absorber bushings that connect to the frame component it's also the other bushings that are part of the bicycle the frame itself that the shock is not attached to. I'll be honest and say that there are other better looking bikes but for the price and the warranty and the reviews I don't care about the looks. I need this to get back and forth to work.
You're talking about Papa Blue Shirt! He's at 9100 miles now and nothing has gone wrong. He did upgrade the gears though.
@@KMK-p8bI didn’t see that one but that makes this purchase much better. Probably add a second battery. Can’t wait for mine to show up. Gunna go have some fun. In the snow and around the mountains.
its a good thing you dont care about the looks
That's a beast! I just bought a motorcycle style e-bike, I live at the beach, really want to get in on the beach! All the sand in the parts kinda worries me, that looks very fun
I have one. It's pretty sweet I got over 1100 miles on it and still going strong.
Dude! What a fantastic video! That beach-run segment was better than most Hollywood movies! - Seriously, so real and exhilarating. I was on that bike! - Thank you very much, aaaaand I'm gettin' one! Lol
I totally agree that the two smaller chain rings on the front are pretty much useless, unless your battery dies. Then you might need them just to be able to pedal the bike lol😅 this bike is good for people that live in the desert, and people that live in the snowy mountains.
Also great for those who want to ride on the beach.
Triple chain ring, beyond being useless, is bad for using up handle bar and putting +/- out of reach. Non-integrated battery and controllers , bad too. Front one won't last long offroad. You need a motor switch ideally that allows front wheel alone too. Battery is ok. 5 seconds 0-20, maybe 4 seconds with pedalling is a great use of power. You can cut off a lot of traffic with that, and 5 seconds at 2000w is as much power as 10 seconds at 1000w, so you get places much faster, without having to cruise above 20mph to get good range.
There are a lot of used bikes that could be modded up into this bike. Once you decide on heavy instead of light, direct drive motors are the way to go. Though I like their balance decisions this bike made.
Great review. Loved your hill climb attempts. Definitely shows the value of dual motor (sand performance also due to dual motor mostly). Would have loved to see you try and use that small chain ring to pedal up that monster.
A fun, or video, idea for you would be something around that hill. Same or other bikes with pedaling. e-mtb workout fun.
This bike is currently $1360 on Amazon with free delivery
Yeah similar price here in the UK, considering one as an upgrade to my 1000w single motor bike that has lasted 2 rough winter seasons here in the UK and is used in literally any weathers. I have lots of hills on my work commute and it slows down a lot so having dual motors and a larger battery would be nice.
It was $1029 last week. I bought 2 of them. Awesome bike.
@DutchTheoutlaw there's always some goofy ass wipe who thinks there a real outlaw. You could have just called yourself Dutch the doofus. Lmao.
@@Electricdirtbikes21 the only thing you should be laughing at is your name. Always some goofy MF who thinks there an outlaw. What are you like 13 years old kid.
@@bigguy1403How do you like it so far? Does it have good range? How much do you weigh? Do you think it is built to last?
The H8 has cruise control and you can adjust the power availibility in the program PO8. This bike is not really for pedaling Its like a Caddy if you add a seat shock. Range is about 20 miles full out at 25 to 34.7 mph and hills are climbed easily. the best way to get range and perfomance is to run at 25mph and let your momentum carry you and pulse the throttle to maintain speed and you will get about 30mph. The best way to check your range is by looking at your voltage, a full charge is 54.9 volts and will go down around 42 volts. A full charge coupled with a positive mental attitude will yield much fun!
For range I use PAS 4 while basically ghost pedaling.. carries me at 25 mph using just the rear motor... while more on reserve if i kick it up to PAS 5
The best part is the rear works in PAS wile the front only kicks in with the throttle, so You can save you battery by pedaling.
From Powell River BC Canada Michael Simard here saying huge thanks to all the work you do
I am a full time dad I have disability that kept me from a 9to 5 so I decided to focus on the hobbies I chose RC and found a fam like no other.
Your doing this where there’s a few others that do bike advertisements and yet you do so well. What a inspiration ☺️👍👍🤘this is why I always look at RUclips for info when I decide something.
Thing is I just got a fat wheel folding 48 volt e bike and I wish I looked at all your vids first but I luckily got the best type that suits my riding style 👊😎
My dad got one similar to 😊 one goes 32 mph and mine is 30 mph tops
I will test mine soon to see what distance it gets on a charge I’m excited 🎉😊
I think the main theme of awd bikes is that you should have a way to turn down the power of the front hub for launching. I believe the Fabulous bikes have that front power adjustability. But a Fabulous bike you're looking at $2,800
Yes. Needed feature for dual motor type of bike to take off in popularity.
I have one of these bikes , a little less torque in take off would be nice but once you get a mile a hour it takes off and away you go. No spinning of the front tire . I really like the bike but I have no place to ride around my neighborhood ,bad traffic!
@@jeffhagberg6796 that's why I was looking at dual hub folding bikes. Or a powerful rear hub folding bike like the Amp Rides.
When you start from standing still, with just pedaling (no throttle) you will not get launched like a rocket.
I also have an awd, and i don't mind it most of the times that the frontwheel spins a little bit. But yes it can be annoying. Also you have to watch out in corners.
Take it easy on the throttle.
AWD only engages under throttle, if you are using pedal assist the rear wheel does all the work. Though there is something cool about spinning the front wheel off the line when you twist the throttle in PAS 5
an AWD mountain bike!?!? I need that in my life.
8:48 oh hell nah, that’s mf zombie roaming the street 😂
It would be easy to wire a cut off switch to that front motor. Not sure why they didnt include one
Excellent review brother. I wish all were like you. Because of your review, I ended up buying one. Love It so far except for the display not resetting the Trip Meter. Philodo Customer service sent me a replacement and it is still not resetting the trip meter after the bike has been powered off.
I just bought the Philodo H7 and am very impressed with its hill-climbing ability here in Vermont. Love this very affordable beast. Hope you test one someday.
I just got my h7 too...awesome bike. My wife gets 35mph on her h7..love it.
8:44 wow good zombie apocalypse bike.
Poppa Blue Shirt just got 10000 miles on it in 8 months. I got the Kettles k800 version, which is the same but has a front wheel on and off switch. I enjoy the AWD.
What's the real top speed of the Kettles K800?
Thanks in advance.
35mph@@joaomatos9194
This bike lasted me 2000 miles before i fried the motor while aggressively driving it through snow banks and torturing it via throttle, i absolutely trashed this bike and it managed to last me 2000 miles… costed me $1800 amd if i treated it better id still have it today, fixed it and sold it i now own a eunorau (double the price) but this philodo seems pretty reliable if you don’t torture it like i did
The wheels aren't built right on that bike. The spoke tabs aren't all supposed to be facing the same direction, they're supposed to alternate in and out.
Love the rollerskating 😂
I think you mean the rollerskater
Yeah the roller skating that the roller skaters did was good. 73
I’m not positive but I think the throttle does the front and the pedal works the rear?
Peddle only, will only activate the rear motor, throttle does both motors.
Seat is way uncomfortable. Very fast bike 28 MPH on mine with my weight my wife got 33 MPH on hers.
Oh my😮 the rollerskate bikini girl during the break test needed to get a second look on pause.
came to the comments for this specifically.
Noooo
Just completed 100 miles. This thing is a beast!
I had heard that the rear motor runs off of pedal-assist and the front motor runs off of throttle, is that still the case?
His in house early in video after assembly part, the throttle was spinning both wheels off ground on kickstand.
Correct the front motor only works when throttled
i just got mine yesterday, this video doesn't give justice to how big this bike actually is
No water bottle. No cup holder. No ash tray.
Backpack or water (back) pack . Who needs an Ash tray on a bike?
No ac, no seat warmer.
Most bikes don't have that anyways.
@@TheTriciaLife You missed the joke
Good yoke 😂
Keteles K800 - $1,499 with coupon K100. Again no tax, free shipping for the same bike. AND a switch to turn off the front motor,
Zombie at 8:46. Using the crosswalk. Reviewer stopping to let the zombie cross while casually reviewing an E-bike. Priceless!
@TailHappyTV I think you should do a quick re-review of this bike with controller setting P14 changed from the default 12 Amps which limits both motors to 575 Watts, to either a more reasonable 20 amps (960 watts per motor) which I set my bike to or even 25 amps (the controller rating) which would allow 1200 watts per motor. It might be capable of more but the battery is limited to a 50 amp draw 25 amps from each motor. It won't affect top speed since that RPM limited but should make a difference in acceleration, hill climbing and in sand performance
I may try this when I get all the parts in for the dual battery mod on my "similar" bike (ZEEGR S1). I have mine is currently "de-tuned" to 31 MPH, so I don't stress the single battery pack. But once I have two batteries of 48V 22.4 AH (each) in place, it will be time to bump it back to 35 MPH and higher controller current. The second battery is going to be installed on the luggage rack behind the seat.
Philodo Just came out with a brand new bike... the Jumbo, imagine this but with full front and rear suspension, Dual 23 Amp Hour batteries, a full color display, only 1 front chain ring ... currently listed for $2500 on their website. any chance @TailHappyTV might get one to review
He just reviewed it if you haven't seen.
@@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357 i saw... finally
When you use the pedal it uses the rear wheel the throttle uses both. I bought one for my wife 5ft 4in 45 kg to clime the long hill we have and this thing goes right up at 25 mph her old bike 500 watt walmart special would just quit.
wow great bike do agree it need to designed to look more professionally made i mean the canvas cover for the controller looks terrible....peace out
I kinda like the whole DIY vibe of it. Should be very easy to work on and repair, modify, etc.
It's built like my DIY bikes. Just put a switch to front controller positive to turn off and on front motor. Dual motors are good for the nitrous switch when needed. Some of these 4 inch fat tire bikes rim widths are only 2.2 inches you can put 3 inch wide tires on them reduce weight and drag.
Already has a switch to turn off the front motor.
The Keetles k800 has one
@@TheCvp33 what do you mean it has a switch? Are you hinting at the fact that the front motor can be unplugged ?
@@HouseofGausss sorry no, the Philodo has no switch, the Keteles K800 does. My mistake.
@@HouseofGausss technically there is a switch to disengage the front motor... it's called pedaling, only the rear motor works in pas mode
I've had mine since October in the Oregon Cascades. Love it still
How is it working out for u???
Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
@@KevinAsher-zo2qz Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
Post a video on it
18:54 this was a banger
Without knowing anything... The controller looks to house 2 18 amp controllers. Wow! Two controller cases. Neat. That's a bunch of amps more than I guessed. But the mounted case looked like it could hold 2 of the 17-18 amp controllers.😂 That's what I get for commenting mid video.
That was the best and most entertaining ebike review I've yet seen! Hill climbing...lane splitting...wa!
If you spot this comment, just curious: deciding between this and the Velotric Nomad 1. Price difference comes out to just $50 now, $1450 for the velotric after tax, H8 for $1499 all in with shipping. Wanting something fun as hell but practical enough to fetch a few groceries with and leave the car parked. Which would you go with for a 1.5 mile work commute 3-4 days a week?
Edit: Price on the H8 just dropped a bit further with a coupon. $1360 now before tax, same as the nomad after tax.
I would go with this, way more powerful than nomad, remember nomad can only go 25 mph top speed, which isn’t even class 3 top speed at 28 mph, which is very disappointing.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 totally; way ahead of ya! I ordered the SMLRO xdc600, which is the same exact bike (SMLRO makes the frame, philodo/others resell it after customization). Ended up saving a bit more compared to the H8, $1150 after tax.
I like this bike. Lots of deliverable power! Thank you
I realized something about the speed cutoffs in the various PAS modes, they're multiples of 10 km/h in mph... 1 is 10 kph, 2 is 20 kph, 3 is 30 kph... etc
Add a speed-based traction control that does not allow the front motor to exceed the speed of the rear by a selectable amount.
you must get this question all the time - but do you sell any of these bikes after your done with the reviews. I am looking for a daily commuter bike like this one.
Man, thanks for another great review! - I'd definitely consider this one. You should try and get a Road Warrior X2 60v bike from Fabulous EBikes of Canada... I'd LOVE To see a review of that one! - You could do a 3-way review of the Wired Freedom, the Philodo H8, and the Road Warrior X2 60v.
He has a second channel where he reviews all the Faster bikes, including the 60v models.
@@Animalwon Hey and thanks for replying. I know about the other channel and I'm a subscriber to it too... Looking back through the back catalog, I have NOT seen a review of the fabulous AWD 60v Road Warrior tho. If he's done it, i'd love a link.
Awesome video! Only downside is that you wore going way to fast past all the bums. :)
lol
Please, be respectful; they’re called home challenged.
I think the wide angle cam makes it look like he's going faster than the real. Look at MPH when he has the display on camera.
Front motor works on throttle only. If your just peddling the bike just uses the rear motor.
I have that slow start on my pholodo h8 as well if you riding the bike and come to a stop within seconds if you gas it again you'll have full throttle on that front wheel I don't really care for this slow start set up so I put a 35 amp controller for the rear sandwich 2 controllers that came with the bike into the bag
make sure P09 is set to 0 this is the setting for zero start on the throttle
You can turn off the front motor; unplug it. Unplug the controller, it has 2.
The Zeegr has a button on the handlebars for switching the front motor off and on. No need to unplug stuff.
I guess you could disconnect the front motor until you think you need it.
Yeah thats what I was thinking. Just unplug it. save juice if not needed. Plug it in if you do. Kind of a pain but it would work.
or just pedal, both motors only engage while under throttle
@@chuckwolf9869 yes, only problem for me is that I can't.
Install a switch after the warranty is up. 73
@2:26: I guess a buyer won't be using a suspension seat post on this bike, as they typically come sized in either 27.2mm, 30.9mm, or 31.6mmm - *NOT* the 30.4mm that this bike's frame expects for a seat post. That's sad, because it looks like a capable bike, but that permanent hard-tail setup is going to be BRUTAL off road.
My recommendation is to buy a seat post with a smaller diameter, and then grab an adapter for like five bucks. This is the exact method I used to make my seat post compatible with many of the ebikes I have.
I have this bike. I purchased a 27.2mm suspension seatpost and a 27.2 x 30.4mm tube adapter. It works great.
The shims are usually free most times now
Dude you must be 6'3 because I'm 5'11 and I have to adjust the seat to min to mount this bad boy.
Anyway I weigh about 350 or so and the bike does not seem to care. 32mph max on flat and 25 on incline 30deg.> . I do help the bike if it starts dropping mph up hill witch is not often.
The light is great but you have to adjust it just right or you will blind people or out run your light to stopping distance in the dark.
I almost want to call myself this products torture tester.
I know I will not get the 30-40mile range because of my weight but the fact this bike doesn't even flinch with the torque is awesome.
I am sorry I didn't see this vid before purchase so you could have collect some promotional dabloons.
23mil. on the odo since 10-29-23 (delivery and assemble was on the 29th) and I love this bike.
If the Batt. lasts a year+ This will exceed my expectations.
Keteles and SMLRO are 95% the same bike as the PHILODO. It alone is Much cheaper than a Wired.
The cheapest price for the SMRLO is at $1150. shipped,
When compared to the Wired $2500 with insurance,shipping, taxes, $1350 difference between the two.
...Can't even lay on The Beach without Stuff like This.... God I Love My Flobee ...
Would you say the single suspension is a deal breaker? I have a non electric mountain bike and the dual suspension is a big difference compared to single suspension
I prefer hard tails
My Keteles k800 is essentially the same bike only I have a switch to choose from one wheel or all-wheel. Frames and components are all nearly identical. $1450. It's fast even with a 300lb guy on it.
Does the K800 use the front wheel in pedal assist with the switch on, or only with throttle like this bike?
@@mobilephone4045 the front wheel only works under throttle. Believe me you don't want the front wheel to run under pedal assist, it would be very dangerous.
Right now there is a bill in the California legislature requiring licensing registration plates, and liability insurance for people. That drive E bikes. And that’s just the beginning because California goes all the other states will go well most of them and we can thank you and people like you.
Best runonsentence of the hour.
@@azilll tanks!
Ive got a very similar bike just under a different brand. And with mine the both motors are on when you use throttle. If you only use peddle assist, then only the rear motor engages. Im guessing its the same on this bike
I have the H8. It is the same as you describe.
@@soonerthebetter2361 On the ZEEGR (similar 2 motor 2kw bike) the front motor will engage as needed if you select "cruise control" and hit an incline.
Love the video but had a different experience with the support staff. As in I have been trying to get help with the bike I bought and have not heard back going on 2 weeks.
Sorry to say but you have no comprehensive idea about what this bike really is. It is a powerhouse monster made to climb and to go fast and accellerate even on slopes and it is made to eat away rough terrains like none. You consume all the battery quite fast IF you throttle all the way, but not if you just go with pedal assist. I have this thing, the white version, quite modified by myself... a treasure. I think very few bikes can handle mountain and or slope like this one. The size and the weight grant much more stability than those flimsy little one motor only bicicle I see everywhere. Plus... throttle is like NITRO here :-) I'm very happy about this thing.
Hi Matt 👋
Just wondering if you have done a review on the smlro v3 1000w dual motor yet? As i cant find a video on your channel.
I live in the uk and most of the bikes you review wont ship here 😔 which is a shame as there has been some really nice ones that look awesome aswell as pack a punch!
Anyway if you haven't done a review of the smlro v3 could you?
For those mentioning being able to disable the front wheel. according to Papa Blue Shirt the front motor only engages while using the throttle and uses the rear only in pedal assist. though i never saw this actually demonstrated by turning the pedals with the wheels raised
No, it is back wheel only in pedal assist. And both wheels when using the throttle. I've tested it all out. I can drive around with the throttle using the rear wheel while the front motor is unplugged. Also, PAS is disengaged when using the throttle. I have been driving around in PAS and it would quit working. It has always been that I had my throttle ever so slightly turned. It was enough to kill PAS but not enough to engage motors with the throttle. I would release the throttle and PAS returns after a second or so if I had kept pedaling.
I like it like this. I use pedal assist mostly. The 1000w motor handles most everything. Tough hills, fast starts, and dogs are the reasons that I mostly use the throttle(both motors).
@@soonerthebetter2361hi,I have one and my front motor dosent run, I pulling up a nd give the troatle and only the back motor world I dhont have 3 miles yet. Do I need to do something alse...
@@leyendanumismatica check your connections at the front motor and coming from throttle.
So this would probably reach 40mph with a 60v battery just like the wired freedom?
The bike needs at least a 30 amp controller to push it from the launch and 72v to reach higher top end speed.
@@twinge2254 I think with the same battery as the freedom this could reach same speeds . Which I think the freedom has a 60v battery, I think this bike could be a good buy for the price , looks like the controller is easy to upgrade and same as better to reach higher sports than 40mph
@@twinge2254I have the same bike basically and it’s dual motors with one controller and it’s a 20 amp controller. Tops out at 30mph. Should I get a 30mph controller or would I risk damaging somethign
@@nikogrimaldi7495 that’s odd it tops out at 30mph having dual 1000w motors. You could definitely upgrade your controller for higher amp and later on bigger battery
@@UtubeSurfer7 yeah I’ve been thinking abt getting a bigger controller but I’m not rlly sure what to get or how to do it idk much abt this stuff. I was thinking about getting a 30mph controller but I wouldn’t know how to switch out the wires and stuff. I also don’t know if it needs a2000 watt controller or 1000 because the one that came with the bike doesn’t have watts on it
AWD isn't something I really need in my terrain. Some of the routes I take require riding some gravel. That front tire spin in a gravel corner would be sketchy to me. The Wired Freedom is working out good for me! One caveat- the Wired is a BIG bike. Website says Freedom fits down to 5'4", but I'm about 5'8" and i'm on my very tippy-toes with the seat fully dropped. I'm thinking it would fit a 6+ foot person better. unless you have abnormally long legs. It's a blast to ride though!
Wired Freedom is the bike I want, but sadly.. I'm 5'0 short and that bike would be too big.
Don't discount the benefits of an AWD bike as simply gift for sand. The biggest benefit I found is for AWD is acceleration. Your getting a cheap ebike that accelerates from 0-30 at the rate as many much more expensive higher power ebikes. Though the top ends not as powerful, having a bike that can accelerate that important 0-30mph quickly is really really helpful when riding on the road.
@@azutori You're right! The Freedom will be way too tall for you. I'm not sure what the seat height of their step-through is for sure, but it's also a hardtail(like most step-throughs) if that matters to you. The Magicycle Deer is an interesting concept; step-through WITH full suspension, but it's also more $$$ than a WIred bike. Maybe Wired will bring out another model some day that's a little more friendly to us "vertically-challenged" folks! Lol
Yeah the Philodo H8 had the exact same accel time as my Wired Freedom, but at a lower price. Weights are pretty much identical too. It's a ton of fun to ride, but realistically I really should have gotten a smaller-framed bike for my height. I'm 5'8" or so, and tippy-toe to touch the ground with the seat all the way down on the Freedom. My next Ebike will definitely be shorter! @@donvee2000
The totally screwed me over I bought 2 bikes and both had issues and I was ghosted by Philodo when i asked them to repair my new bikes. I had to take them to a local biike shop to get them fix at my own expence.
So this bike is on sale for the same price as the velotric nomad… what would be the better bike?
00:35 this is the bike i wanna Ride😇
Good review, thanks!
No rear suspension!? What were they thinking?
Ive been watching your ebike test for a long time but I did watch another review from another RUclipsr who showed a Walking Speed test on the bike. I'm trying to picture and Ebike that I could pull a beach cart out on the beach with while walking the bike! I'm in Alabama and along the Gulf Coast we cannot ride a Ebike on the beach but we can walk one! Anyway, I love your videos and reviews and if you could add this feature to your test, I would greatly appreciate it!!!!
The only reason that gearing was specd is because it's cheap to buy in bulk. Im assuming that's a stamped chainring, square tapered bb, non tapered headtube. Just standard cost cutting
Standard off he shelf parts are the appeal of this e-bike. I replaced both the crankset and flywheel for around $50.00. Parts for this bike should be available for years to come.
If it's the same as the one I rode the pedals only enable the rear motor and the twist throttle works both
I dont need a fast bike because over 25 scares me to death. Im a speed demon but on trains, planes (which I will never fly on again), and automobiles. I like the powers because it does me good on hills. Im 5'6 150lbs. Kept its speed on a huge hill and more importantly, I have to learn how to control the throttle. Full tilt the whole time is going to get me killed.
Banger
AWD! Hell yes 🙌🏻 💥
Seems pretty up there in power but I think you have reviewed better in that price range. Thanks for video! always interesting for comparing!
Could l you please specify some options in this price range that has similar specs? I just bought this bike and it's pretty powerful, helps me get on the road at decent speeds without feeling like I'm holding down the traffic too much. Also helps me go up and down some really steep roads with little effort. Only asking cause I'm still within the return period and wouldn't mind returning this for a cheaper one that does the same job
I'm not sure you will find a cheaper one like this one, I've checked several times. I have one also and I'm not sending it back ,don't have a good place to ride traffic is terrible! No respect for bike riders! We have bike trails but you have to drive long ways to get to them.
@@HouseofGausss I just got one, and it’s great.
@@StefanRandall I got mine shortly after that comment, been loving it
Wired freedom costs like 800$ more tho
18:55 nice
Out of curiosity, are most of the e-bike people bikers in general? As a skater I never got into biking. Dirt biking sure, but I’d go do trails in Sundance when I was younger. Only to get out of the house. I moved to a small small small small small town less than 50 people. There’s so many ways to go around to the mountains. Can’t wait to explore and have fun in the snow with this. Debating on a battery for just in case, and also debating on buying 2 more tires so I can stud them and go have fun in the frozen lakes :p
im not even getting 20 miles to a charge on mine, ive got 2, the other one gets 25 miles and thats really putting it at the end. ive had the bike about 4 months so idk if philodo will do anything, ive put close to 200 miles on mine and at worst ive gotten 8 miles. at best ive gotten 20. 25 if i use the other philodo bike battery both bought at the same time. wondering if we got a bad batch of batteries. psi is 15-18, weather in the 60's not really windy and not steep hills.
I'd like to build a 8000 w ebike like the e-bike guy that goes 105 miles an hour just to race that Tesla
U should review the ridstar q20 pro dual battery and motor bike
I totally missed the break test what happened?
There was nothing to see. Move along.
6:37 - Voltage sag is HUGE with such small battery! Drop from 53v down to 45v. LOL!
right. 2000w is way too much for this battery. Gotta remove that front motor for sure
Look at the Fucare Libra...there is space to mount a 72v triangle battery behind the seatpost and another 48v shark battery on the downtube mounts with a battery balancer to even out the voltage....no voltage sag experienced for using as a delivery vehicle. Range anxiety is gone as well.
@@twinge2254 theres so much better options if you're gonna add 600$ worth of batteries on a 1900$ bike
@@Tom-ol5zz Or, do as I am, add a second battery. Less sag, more zoom.
@@Tom-ol5zz front motor is only engaged while under throttle, it uses just the rear if you pedal, so unless you're only using the throttle you'll be fine
For those who have it, I’m 6’0 dude that’s 265 (currently losing weight).
My question is, should I lose the weight first then get it or get it and lose the weight with the E-bike?
I just want to know so I don’t damage it as fast
bro just dont really stress about it so much the bike is large and made for big riders you wont damage it in any way.
@@safouanbb thanks man, I’ve been wanting to hear that.
I just found out the bike isn’t even legal in California because the motor is 1000 W hours and not the legal limit of 750w or less
What reccommendation would you give between this and the Wired Freedom 2024? My main objective is to tow a heavy duty cargo trailer. Thanks.