I own one and have about 300 miles on it. This review is pretty spot-on. I was wondering when you would review it. Thank You for taking the time to produce this video. ***** What I would add: 1. The rear shock is a shock in name only. It requires a really hard knock to make it move at all. It is getting replaced on my bike with a lighter mechanical spring shock with a compression and rebound adjustment (about 55 bucks). The front shock is nicely compliant. I weigh about the same as the poster of this video. **Post Edit** a new shock was installed to day, a DNM DV-22AR 165mm with a 750 pound per inch spring. Much better. Only complaint was that the bushings had to be shortened to fit the cantilever mechanism on top. ** (Epilogue: Moved to a 650 pound per inch spring, and it was even better. For lighter riders who are under 200 pounds, a 550 pound per inch spring would probably be a better choice). 2. Battery life: Flat out-dual motors, 31.1 MPH (according to the bike's display), about 12 to 14 miles on level streets. PAS mode 3, with light peddling gets you around 30 miles at 21.1 MPH (with front motor switched off). 3. For riders under 6 foot tall you will have to lower the seat to it's near minimum height. This makes the bike-seat-taillight at the rear rack height. This results in poor visibility of the tail light. Suggestion: Get an uprated tail light and mount it where the rear reflector is on the rack. (I suggest the WSDCAM taillight (Amazon), which includes multimode tail light, an automatic brake light when you slow down, turn signals, and a loud alarm. It also includes a horn, but that is redundant.) 4. For serious commuters on this bike, consider adding a second battery. The Zeegr battery was the "promised" 22.4 Ah battery, and is labelled as such. But, it is only a 20 Ah battery (13S4P 21700 cells, rated at 5 Ah per cell (for 20 Ah of capacity). 5. Dont lift the bike by it's seat and handlebars. The two #10 screws which hold the back of the seat to the mount will strip out and the seat will come off in your hands. I fixed that by replacing the screws with larger #12 screws and upgrading the washers under the screws. I also NOW know to not lift by the seat, use the rear rack as a lift point. 6. The street handling of this bike is vastly improved by running street tires, especially higher pressure street tires. (I suggest the Innova Hybrid 30 PSI tires, mine are ran at 25 PSI until the rear shock is replaced). I suspect these tires would work well in sand as well. 7. Energy costs: It costs me 5 cents worth of electricity to commute to and from work (a total of 10 miles). I couldn't start my car and drive a block on 5 cents worth of gas. ***** The bike is equally fast on one motor as two (on level hard surface ground). What the second motor gains you is acceleration rate, and the ability to run over soft surfaces (sand, mud, etc). The stock orange reflectors were replaced with 3M Scotchlite spoke reflectors, to eliminate how much the orange reflectors "unbalance" the tires. Note the wheel hop at the beginning of the video when he has the bike lifted to test the motors out. ****** This is the same bike as the SMLRO v3. The SMLRO v3 bike has a genuine 22.4 Ah battery (which weighs 8/10ths of a Pound more than the Zeegr battery). The SMLRO will go 35 Mph. Please note, the SMLRO battery has a 5-pin connector at the battery, the Zeegr uses a 4-pin connector. You cannot simply swap the battery.
Thanks for your input. I have 2 questions for you. Does this bike have 2 controllers or 1 and how many amps? And does the front tire interfere with your foot in turns? I plan on wearing heavy snow boots and knee boots and I wear a size 12? Thanks for any input.
@@davidmarcoux6349 It has two controllers (side by side) in the box attached to the seat post, which is above the bottom bracket. And yes, I have dragged my toe across the front tire in tight (slow) turns when I don't have the axle of the peddle under the ball of my foot. i.e. If the peddle axe is too close to the middle or back of my foot, then there can be a problem. As long as your foot is positioned right (or you don't have size 12+ shoes), then you should be fine. The best test would be to put on the boots, position the ball of your foot on the axle of the pedal, and swing the handlebar too it's extremes. I hate to say it, but with a size 12 boot, you are definitely in a grey area. In my menu, the controllers are "set" to 28 Amps. I haven't felt the need to tinker with that setting (yet). I am about to mount a secondary (and possibly tertiary) battery on the rear rack. Once I have all of those usable amps available, I may look more into the controllers themselves. Personally, I feel drawing 2Kw from one pack is just pushing it. High discharge currents increase the rate of aging of any battery pack. If I go triple pack, then I could potentially cruise 90 miles at 21mph under throttle only.
@@davidmarcoux6349 On the boot clearance, I went out and made a measurement. From the front of the pedal, to the front wheel (at it's closest point), the distance is 5 inches. If your boots have a big rounded front which is tall, it may contact the fender. This could be addressed by trimming back the plastic front fender for more clearance. Summary: Put on your boot, put your booted foot on the pedal, with the ball of the foot over the axle of the pedal. If 5 inches or more of your foot sticks out beyond the front of the pedal, you will most certainly rub. Strong compression of the front shocks (from a hard bump while the wheel is turned, or heavy braking while the wheel is turned) will reduce the distance a little. But, most people don't jam on the brakes in snow while turning. However, you could hit a hard bump while the wheel is turned hard left/right.
Can you put thinner street tires on it. Wouldnt you need to switch out the rims too. Also is it easy to add a second battery or are you doing a custom job? Thanks. Looking to buy one soon!@@addertooth1
The reason why I watch your reviews over any other is because you put the bikes through the most extreme conditions. In a nutshell, your reviews are honest, no sugar coating it to make the bikes look good. That's what I want to see. Honest reviews for when I purchase an e-bike, I know that it's going to survive the beating I'm going to deliver. I trust your reviews over any other channel.
Going full tilt on e-bikes is a great way to show real world examples of durability, performance, range when you treat them like unlicensed motorcycles or mopeds.
Was anyone else waiting for the kickstand to drop and then see the bike go through the wall? That would probably get you a million new viewers. Good work as usual.
I was really excited to send this one to my son. He is a soldier in Hawaii which houses high gas prices, mountains and beaches. He lives on post and I really think this would be great for him. If you think of a creative way to carry a golf bag that would be golden!
Thanks for your review. Before I start I want to tell you I'm 71 years old and have limited peddle power left in me. Well I ordered one of these and I love it so far EXCEPT for what wasn't as listed. NOT your fault, they obviously sent you a better bike. Here's what I received that was different. The front forks are just springs in tubes, no adjustment at all. I didn't get the powered phone holder. The phone holder would have been very nice, but I found a handlebar extender that holds 2x18650 batteries with USB. I shouldn't have had to buy one! The rear shock appears to just be a spring in a can, like the front forks. After I order an air shock for the rear I will cut open the one that came with it and we'll all know. It is unlike my other DIY ebikes or my friends ebikes. When you set it to zero peddle assist you get nothing, no throttle at all. All it really does is enable peddle assist with speed limiting. Not the safest for tight turns on narrow trails or climbing over trail obstacles. Just a little about me, fact not brag, well maybe a little brag😉. I have built 4 gas bikes, one of witch is complete DIY with a Predator motor on it, and 5 ebikes. I've built and repaired a bunch of ebike and scooter batteries. When I build a battery I build them Tesla style. I.E. every 18650 battery has its own fuse. I've worked on bikes and motorcycles since I was a teenager. Keep the skinny side everyone! 😁👍
He burns through a lot of JUICE but you can get some decent battery life and mileage on this bike if you don't go beast mode. I keep the front motor off and keep it at PA2. In my longest ride Strava says I did 28 miles, with moving time of 3:20 hours. 1070ft elevation and 8.4mph average, with a top speed of 32mph. This ride was 90% on mostly level dirt trails. The battery meter had switched to one bar of battery power just as I finished. I weigh about 190. I figure might have been able to get another 5 miles. This is not bad for such a big bike.
did 32 miles on mine today with 2 bars left and half the ride was in beast mode. I think they get better milage then is stated. I am planning to do a range test this week and will post the results here. This is a under rated badass bike I get some really nice rippage.
Your videos are a pleasure to watch, very informative, well organized, and your sense of humor is amazing. thank you. PS - I would think about a stronger rear rack. That looks like it could only carry my newspaper!
Amazing review, thank you. Not too many videos for this bike. I love how there’s no indicator for single or dual motor, but ‘I’m sure you’ll be able to tell’ and then you couldn’t tell on the sand haha
Some a comparing this bike to the Philodo H8 but there a a few differences between the 2 that can be pros or cons based on your preferences. This one has a selectable Rear or AWD switch, rear suspension 160mm rotors and 21 amp controllers with motors that peak at 1150 watts on a full battery charge. Whereas the Philodo has system where the throttle engages AWD and Pedal Assist is Rear drive only without the need for a switch, The Philodo is a Hard Tail, but some of us actually prefer that, and can be countered with a decent suspension seatpost. The Philodo comes with 180mm rotors. finally the Philodo comes with 27 amp controllers for a peak output of 1500 watts on a full charge, the bigger controllers are the reason for the "controller in a bag" as the controller built into the Zeeger and others is limited to 21 amps, so Philodo opted for a separate battery mount and controller
@@rasyfopeh2977 I bought one a Philodo and it took three days. Im in Nebraska and I think it came from Cali. You have to be home to sign for it. I wasnt and had to track it down on Saturday at Fedex. Put it together and took it for a ride and damn near died that night.
@@someoneelse6934 I like mine. The range ain't the best. About 15 miles. I bought mine for hunting so the range doesn't bother me. The rear shock absorber is the only thing I found that sucks oh and I have problems with getting the cruise control to come on.
@@someoneelse6934 Really good. I'm quite happy with it. Compared to another e-bike we own it has significantly more power for hill climbing. In fact you have to be careful because it will spin the front wheel on hills if you're not careful. Nice to have the suspension. Haven't done any long rides - mostly around an hour long. No issues with range. After an hour ride the battery still shows 5 bars. Pedal assist 5 is actually too powerful - can't imagine actually using it. PAS 1 or 2 is all you can really use on a trail.
Sir TailHappy, I hope you read this and I hope you would answer me this question. How wide is the bottom bracket? I think a BBSHD as a third mortor should make me go real fast with a trailer when going up hill. :') I have seen this video over 4 times now! Can't get enough of it.
I bought the Keteles 2000w Pro 23Amp dual motor bike for $1200. It also has dual suspension. I bought my bike from a Chinese supplier with a warehouse in California. I think the bike shown here and my bike are the same.
please tell me are you happy so far with the bike? I'm about to purchase one directly from a chinese supplier using the Ali express platform. My only concern with the exterior battery mounting is potential rain exposure.
I rode motorcycles for a lot of years. The number one problem I had was getting the cars to notice me. I chose the brightest and most outlandish color scheme available for this reason. I can see the opposing attorney presenting the idea "the bike was camo green, or, the bike was black at night" and thus harder than normal to see. As we all know, the job of any capable attorney is to shift the blame to the victim. My bike is festooned with upgraded reflective surfaces for this reason as well, and upgraded tail light too. You can't fix stupid, but at least you can rob his attorney of an arguing point.
@@addertooth1 Well said. The more visible your bike, the better! Never understood the appeal of black bikes. Cant believe when I see people biking at night on a black bike, dressed in dark clothing, with no bike light. I like to always have some kind of fluorescent or reflective clothing on too.
@@hussainali4725 I picked mine up for 1500. I also paid for the (probably useless) Asurion 2 year protection plan. It has so many clauses, it does nothing the first year. You have to wait until the manufacturer's warranty expires before it will pay a dime. So really, you are only getting a year of coverage. The insurance cost about another 180. I would probably not get it again. Shipping was free.
That's what I plan on using it for. Going thru swaps and marsh following the deer trails where I use to hunt when I was much much younger. 63 now lol 😂
A few things to note, as of 7/8/24 they have made a few changes. The front fork is slightly different now and doesn't have any adjustments on it. They added turn signals, changed the PA controls, phone holder isn't wired in (but there is a USB input on the new controls)and have a powered tail light. As far as mileage goes, I rode the other day and did 28 miles mainly using PA2 which speed is around 18 mph, did a few AWD modes and a couple high speed runs. After that ride, I still had two LED bars on the battery pack itself. If I was planning on a long ride, I would conserve power by staying in single motor mode, and use PA1 or 2 or maybe just get another battery to tote along.
I don't see anything that would make me want this more than my Zeegr S1. I bought the Zeegr after Tailhappy's review last year (review is still up if you search it). The Zeegr has been fantastic - ridden it all summer after buying it in March. It's currently listed in Zeegr's site for $1250 which is a fantastic deal. The Zeegr might be slightly slower but it goes faster than I want to ride it on trails (can still do 35 mph) and it comes with better fenders and a rack.
You never mentioned if the front tire restricted you foot on the pedal? I plan on wearing heavy snow boots and I wear a size 12. Also does this bike have single or dual controller and how many amps
Its the joker colors. Thanks for the awesome content. Im getting ready to buy my first ebike, and your videos have given me a wealth of knowledge. We do not have a big ebike community in my area. Id like to change that. Thanks again!
Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
@@RAZORWlND Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
@@nyudoragon1478 well my son's bike rear motor making noises and feels like over 15 miles or so starts pulsating. My front motor quit after about a week but rear motor works. Got in contact with boombike slow to respond they are supposed to be sending clutch assembly for my son's rear motor and few parts for mine 2 weeks still waiting for parts. Will update if or when I receive parts . Bike rides ok rear shock is not the best but it is ok.
Yes I just bought this one, thanks for the testing it out for me. $1599usd. 20 golden stars for you my friend as you saved me $300 from your link. So next time your in Chicago I will but you many beers lmao. Thank You TailHappyTV. I got my bike today and put it together. I took it for a test ride and Holy Shit this bike moves. I am not a big peddler so this one I think is perfect. It was getting late so I could not ride as much as I wanted too but tomorrow is another day and I plan to rip it up! Update: After almost 2 weeks on this bike and I really enjoy riding this beast. Any terrain you want to master you only have to point your front tire (with both motors engaged and PAS > or = 01) turn the throttle and hang on. I;m telling ya, you will go with the power! It took me a few days to get use to the weight and power and now I only use the rear motor on the street and paved trails, which we have tons of them here by Chicago, When I want to rip dual motors engaged with the touch of a button and again hang on your going for a ride. Now I spent the first 3 days setting it up for the power and speed I like and this bike as it is perfect for me. I;m 5'10 and 165 lbs and I feel this is how the default settings were set. Put it together while charging (topping off) your battery jump on it and ride. As for range I can't really say as sometimes, because I pedal all the time and the battery meter reads full on short trips. Even if I cruise around town running errands within a 5 miles plus radius. When you buy this ebike I highly recommend pedaling, which feels really good on this Zeegr S1. Guarantee you get the stated mileage if not more just by putting the pedals down, it is good for you too so. They should name this bike "The Ripper".
I have one. For me the rear factory shock is too stiff, and feels like there is little or no suspension in the rear. I am upgrading mine to a 55 dollar shock unit which is "sprung lighter". The H8 also has less favorable location for the controller boxes. Some have complained they get rubs from the wheel on the H8 under full suspension compression on the early models, they have since moved that box down closer to the crank-set to resolve this issue.
I'm not crazy about the look of the bike but, it's probably a little better than a lot of these new inexpensive AWD bikes, because it runs off of a Bafang system and it looks like it comes with a rebranded RST fork witch has more robust drop outs so it should be able to handle the torque of the front motor. I don't trust the dropout of a lot of these budget suspension forks with a front motors.
@@addertooth1 there's a reason for the location of the secondary controller on the Philodo, With the Zeeger the controller built into the battery mount is only 21 +/-1 Amps is the secondary controller to match so the motors PEAK at 1000 watts at 48 volts, Phildo opted for a separate battery mount and controller so they could run 27 +/- 2 controllers which peaks at 1300 watts at 48 volts
Hey how's it going? I really think you do the best reviews! You explain every detail really well!💯 Do you know if there is a mid-drive bike that also has a front hub motor?
Awesome videos like always gets me hyped when you upload in this channel or juicedjoyrides ❤ Using 2 motors is more efficient than using 1 motor, because lets say that you are power outputting 2000 watts and you decide to use single motor for that and that would be harsh for that motor, but if you use dual motors it will split the power between them like 1000watts rear and 1000watts in the front. Someone correct me if im wrong.
It is complicated. Most brushless motors have a "sweet spot" where they are efficient. If you are pushing a motor at the ragged edge, you are producing heat and less mechanical motion per watt utilized. As long as the "ONE" motor is in it's sweet spot, its efficiency will be high. A motor pushed harder will have the coils approaching "saturation", which leads to more energy being used to produce HEAT instead of rotational force. The motors on the Zeegr are reputed to be 82 Newton-meters of torque. This equates to about 60 foot-pounds of torque per motor. This gives a total of 120 foot pounds of torque. However, to preserve the internal gears in the hub, the controller has a "soft ramp up" when you peg the throttle. So your first second or so does not unleash full torque immediately. This is why the creator of the video had to take multiple stabs at the 0 to 20 time, until he realized if you tag the throttle, let off, then immediately tag the throttle, this can defeat the soft ramp up feature. This gave about a 5 second 0 to 20 time.
I came across your videos while being curious about e-bikes in Nov 2024. I thoroughly enjoyed your videos and your upbeat attitude. Keep up the excellent work and you gained a new subscriber. 🫡🤝
Just recently got mine (Canada). I had to wait for the shipment which was enroute when I bought it. Shipped from Montreal. Purchase was painless, delivery happened when promised, assembly was straightforward. On normal flat ground the extra motor is not really noticeable - the bike doesn't accelerate very much quicker. Where you do notice is starting out on a hill or simply going up a hill. This is in comparison to another ebike I own. On a gravel hill or loose soil the bike will spin front wheel briefly - that's a surprising feeling of torque. I tried the bike out on several steep rough surface hills and the bike is capable of propelling me up the hill faster than I'd want to go - had to use less than full power.
@@billstock3663 Hello. Yes, I ordered directly and it was shipped to me from Montreal. I don't know if they have discontinued shipping to Canada since I got mine but it worked fine for me.
@@Aerkavo I actually live in Montreal so are you saying that there must be a warehouse located in Montreal? Is the parent company BoomBike or was it another distributor?
@@billstock3663 Well, why don't you contact them and ask. I bought it directly from the website - contacted them with a few questions, paid, bike delivered a few months later (there was a shipment enroute already).
There is a setting in the display for adjusting the "ramp up rate". It comes from the factory at a 3. I set mine to a 5, and it comes off the line even better.
Do any of the batteries from your other bikes fit this one? I would really like to see a review where you actually drain the battery completely with mostly paved riding. And maybe try that steep hill. If you had a spare battery you could fully drain it. Going based on "oh no, its down to one bar" who knows you could be anywhere from 10-40% charge. Definitely should do a second test on this one. Its down to $1100. Seems to good to be true.
There are no single.controller dual motor bikes, unless it's a single controller, dual channel. They would get out of sync very quickly and the cogging from the pulses hitting the motor at the wrong time would cause it to tear.itself apart fairly quickly.
Very similar to the philodo h8. im sure they are built in the same factory. or the same manufacturer. I love my h8 so ill be recommending this for my dad. i love the full suspension on this.
Hey Dude, thank's to you I bought the Wired Freedom Ebike. I've watched all of your video's on RUclips and I really appreciate your technical and professional advice. One question that I have is will you ever remove that black skuff mark from your floor? It's a small eye sore😊
@@jamesramsey7767I can appreciate a visual signs of someone who looks like they’ve been doing this a while. It looks like he lives in an apartment. Most likely he will have to pay for it to get replaced or lose his deposit. It’s very noticeable.
What if you took the control box and battery from the 62V bike and put it on this thing? Which bikes have dual motors and clear indicators that you are using AWD? It seems that's something this bike is missing.
Do you do Stair case test in your videos? how hard is it to carry up/down a few steps. I myself built a 500w ebike on a 29er ccm bike with 48v17.5Ah battery. it would be hard to lift if I put 2 batteries, but I want that next. 17.5Ah gets me to work and home no problem.
Hi, came across this channel and love the reviews. Have been really thinking of getting a E-bike and want a dual motor. Thoughts on BoomBike vs Philodo H8? Thanks. KUTGW!
Like your reviews. Tks. Do you know if it's a freewheel or cassette style? And is front fork an imitation tapered or actually tapered? Someone said the battery is 21700 cells, is that correct?
$1499 minus $120 code = $1379 free shipping and no tax, this seems like too good to be true for this dual motor 35MPH full suspension 22.5ah e-bike. Is it reliable?
only time will tell! this thing is fairly new but it's a pretty basic frame, a lot of parts out there are interchangeable if you want to upgrade or replace anything
I have a bit over 300 miles on mine. The only needed repairs I did was on the seat, and I fixed a flat tire. I added Flat-Out sealant to my tires after the second flat (I didn't patch the second flat). The sealant fixed the hole just by re-inflating the tire and riding it. Oh, and the reflector popped out of one pedal, I pressed it back in. See my post in this thread for "suggested upgrades".
He has a storage unit, seen in some of his other videos. It is quite a collection of enviable bikes. His Motor Goat v3 video shows some of his bikes in storage.
Greetings from the other side of this gem we’re FUBAR thanks for your work in posting this informative, interesting, helpful piece, I’m in need of a bike capable of pulling my fat ass plus a solar trailer that’s over 150kg , do you feel this bike could do this job Thanks again for your post was nice time spent for this old stone’a 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🤙🏼🤟🏼🖖🏼
Totally agree - I do not know why the bike makers do not routinely use bigger cranks. Its frustrating having to replace the front crank as soon as you get the bike. You also have to look closely at the bike to make sure it has room for a larger crank lest you buy the bike with the intention of changing to a bigger crank only to find there is not room for it. There are a few bikes that have big cranks (wired freedom, ecells, ariel kepler) and they let you peddle and contribute right up in the 30's which is really nice
That battery looks exactly like the secondary backup batteries for goat power bikes LOL and they are Samsung batteries and I have two on my motor goat and two on my power goat and holy crap do those things book ass. I was hitting 50 mph with no problem and with dual batteries you get so much more range it's just ridiculous. And I got my discount for my goat power bikes from this channel actually and now I'm an affiliate with goat power bikes and by just using my name as the discount coupon in the checkout you save on your whole order so that's pretty cool
It's very similar to your Philodo. It's probably made by the same manufacturer in the same factory . I think the only differences are that the Philodo has the second motor controller in a bag. It does not have dual suspension and does not have a button to turn off the front motor. You can get a suspension seat post to make up for that. The Philodo only uses the front motor when you use the throttle, which I wish the Zeegr still had as an option. When I need extra power I have to hit the button, make sure my PA level is at least 3, and then use the throttle. It would be nice to be able to do that in one motion by just using the throttle but also be able to use the front motor at other times. BTW, love your videos.
@@papablueshirt 10k miles?? you should regrease the gears soon... Bafang says 15 to 20 000 kilometers.. so you are on that border to service your gears
@@dg9bfc I am actually way past that now and still going strong. I may grease the back when I change my rear tire, if these Ultraverse tires ever wear out LOL The guy from Grin technologies said he is not convinced the nylon gears ever need greasing. Maybe I will be a case study 😀
I guess it depends on what is legal where you are. In my state they allow 500watt motors and 20mph max speed. That's a class 2 Ebike spec. The Wired Freedom can come shipped as a "class 2" bike as an option, but it's a fiction. They put an emblem on it that says "class 2" but you can unlock the higher speeds and power. It also only has one motor. There's no way a dual motor bike will pass a cursory inspection if a cop wants to get picky.
@@Tom-ol5zz Keep in mind the wired freedom was slower in the sand test. The Zeegr was hitting 20 MPH across the soft dry sand. The Wired was slower (in spite of it's higher power rating). If you are a 100 percent street rider, then the Wired Freedom would make sense.
Question to everybody: I need such a bike only for short distances on paved/asphalt roads. I live in the mountains (incline between 5% and 12%. When i saw how he barely can make it out of the garage because of the incline: Is this bike strong enough for asphalt roads to get up a hill with 5% to 12%? I appreciate your answers!
It pulled up the 20 degree grade in the garage while accelerating so no problem with 5-12% grades. The first test he did was single motor and the grade was 20% - Most of the dual motor bikes I have seen him test with one motor cannot make it up the grade so not a big surprise. Based too on its sand performance the bike appears to be quite torquey and definitely will be a good hill climber though keep in mind 2 motors means double battery burn rate. For normal cruising I suspect one would want to run single motor and only use the second when you need it....
I suspect (but do not know for sure) that it is the rear suspension. Mine used to make that noise until I changed out the rear shock unit to a lighter 750 pound-inch spring shock unit. Unless you are hard-core mountain biking 3 foot drop offs, the factory shock is too stiff. You will note in the video is is getting good movement on the front shocks, and virtually none on the rear shock.
Itdoesnt matter how fast it is. It matter's if it will still be running in a year with 5 or 10,000. miles on it. If it trust worthy? If its like my Ariel Rider Grizzly 52v X-2 it is a Xi-Nese piece of garbage.
I bought this bike based on this review. The bike would not do more than 32mph, and the rear suspension was rigid. I had to pedal crazy hard to get the 32 and in normal use would not do that. I returned the bike as it had been misrepresented.
tailhappytv.com 👈 click here to see my favorite ebikes ⚡🤙
I own one and have about 300 miles on it. This review is pretty spot-on. I was wondering when you would review it. Thank You for taking the time to produce this video.
*****
What I would add:
1. The rear shock is a shock in name only. It requires a really hard knock to make it move at all. It is getting replaced on my bike with a lighter mechanical spring shock with a compression and rebound adjustment (about 55 bucks). The front shock is nicely compliant. I weigh about the same as the poster of this video. **Post Edit** a new shock was installed to day, a DNM DV-22AR 165mm with a 750 pound per inch spring. Much better. Only complaint was that the bushings had to be shortened to fit the cantilever mechanism on top. ** (Epilogue: Moved to a 650 pound per inch spring, and it was even better. For lighter riders who are under 200 pounds, a 550 pound per inch spring would probably be a better choice).
2. Battery life: Flat out-dual motors, 31.1 MPH (according to the bike's display), about 12 to 14 miles on level streets. PAS mode 3, with light peddling gets you around 30 miles at 21.1 MPH (with front motor switched off).
3. For riders under 6 foot tall you will have to lower the seat to it's near minimum height. This makes the bike-seat-taillight at the rear rack height. This results in poor visibility of the tail light. Suggestion: Get an uprated tail light and mount it where the rear reflector is on the rack. (I suggest the WSDCAM taillight (Amazon), which includes multimode tail light, an automatic brake light when you slow down, turn signals, and a loud alarm. It also includes a horn, but that is redundant.)
4. For serious commuters on this bike, consider adding a second battery. The Zeegr battery was the "promised" 22.4 Ah battery, and is labelled as such. But, it is only a 20 Ah battery (13S4P 21700 cells, rated at 5 Ah per cell (for 20 Ah of capacity).
5. Dont lift the bike by it's seat and handlebars. The two #10 screws which hold the back of the seat to the mount will strip out and the seat will come off in your hands. I fixed that by replacing the screws with larger #12 screws and upgrading the washers under the screws. I also NOW know to not lift by the seat, use the rear rack as a lift point.
6. The street handling of this bike is vastly improved by running street tires, especially higher pressure street tires. (I suggest the Innova Hybrid 30 PSI tires, mine are ran at 25 PSI until the rear shock is replaced). I suspect these tires would work well in sand as well.
7. Energy costs: It costs me 5 cents worth of electricity to commute to and from work (a total of 10 miles). I couldn't start my car and drive a block on 5 cents worth of gas.
*****
The bike is equally fast on one motor as two (on level hard surface ground). What the second motor gains you is acceleration rate, and the ability to run over soft surfaces (sand, mud, etc).
The stock orange reflectors were replaced with 3M Scotchlite spoke reflectors, to eliminate how much the orange reflectors "unbalance" the tires. Note the wheel hop at the beginning of the video when he has the bike lifted to test the motors out.
******
This is the same bike as the SMLRO v3. The SMLRO v3 bike has a genuine 22.4 Ah battery (which weighs 8/10ths of a Pound more than the Zeegr battery). The SMLRO will go 35 Mph.
Please note, the SMLRO battery has a 5-pin connector at the battery, the Zeegr uses a 4-pin connector. You cannot simply swap the battery.
Thanks for your input. I have 2 questions for you. Does this bike have 2 controllers or 1 and how many amps? And does the front tire interfere with your foot in turns? I plan on wearing heavy snow boots and knee boots and I wear a size 12? Thanks for any input.
@@davidmarcoux6349 It has two controllers (side by side) in the box attached to the seat post, which is above the bottom bracket. And yes, I have dragged my toe across the front tire in tight (slow) turns when I don't have the axle of the peddle under the ball of my foot. i.e. If the peddle axe is too close to the middle or back of my foot, then there can be a problem.
As long as your foot is positioned right (or you don't have size 12+ shoes), then you should be fine. The best test would be to put on the boots, position the ball of your foot on the axle of the pedal, and swing the handlebar too it's extremes. I hate to say it, but with a size 12 boot, you are definitely in a grey area.
In my menu, the controllers are "set" to 28 Amps. I haven't felt the need to tinker with that setting (yet). I am about to mount a secondary (and possibly tertiary) battery on the rear rack. Once I have all of those usable amps available, I may look more into the controllers themselves. Personally, I feel drawing 2Kw from one pack is just pushing it. High discharge currents increase the rate of aging of any battery pack. If I go triple pack, then I could potentially cruise 90 miles at 21mph under throttle only.
@@davidmarcoux6349 On the boot clearance, I went out and made a measurement. From the front of the pedal, to the front wheel (at it's closest point), the distance is 5 inches.
If your boots have a big rounded front which is tall, it may contact the fender. This could be addressed by trimming back the plastic front fender for more clearance.
Summary: Put on your boot, put your booted foot on the pedal, with the ball of the foot over the axle of the pedal. If 5 inches or more of your foot sticks out beyond the front of the pedal, you will most certainly rub.
Strong compression of the front shocks (from a hard bump while the wheel is turned, or heavy braking while the wheel is turned) will reduce the distance a little. But, most people don't jam on the brakes in snow while turning. However, you could hit a hard bump while the wheel is turned hard left/right.
Can you put thinner street tires on it. Wouldnt you need to switch out the rims too. Also is it easy to add a second battery or are you doing a custom job? Thanks. Looking to buy one soon!@@addertooth1
Thanks for everyone's input.
The reason why I watch your reviews over any other is because you put the bikes through the most extreme conditions. In a nutshell, your reviews are honest, no sugar coating it to make the bikes look good. That's what I want to see. Honest reviews for when I purchase an e-bike, I know that it's going to survive the beating I'm going to deliver. I trust your reviews over any other channel.
Going full tilt on e-bikes is a great way to show real world examples of durability, performance, range when you treat them like unlicensed motorcycles or mopeds.
Was anyone else waiting for the kickstand to drop and then see the bike go through the wall? That would probably get you a million new viewers. Good work as usual.
I was really excited to send this one to my son. He is a soldier in Hawaii which houses high gas prices, mountains and beaches. He lives on post and I really think this would be great for him. If you think of a creative way to carry a golf bag that would be golden!
Full suspension AWD rear rack and 50 amps is pretty cool for a fat bike and i love those colors
Thanks for your review. Before I start I want to tell you I'm 71 years old and have limited peddle power left in me. Well I ordered one of these and I love it so far EXCEPT for what wasn't as listed. NOT your fault, they obviously sent you a better bike. Here's what I received that was different. The front forks are just springs in tubes, no adjustment at all. I didn't get the powered phone holder. The phone holder would have been very nice, but I found a handlebar extender that holds 2x18650 batteries with USB. I shouldn't have had to buy one! The rear shock appears to just be a spring in a can, like the front forks. After I order an air shock for the rear I will cut open the one that came with it and we'll all know. It is unlike my other DIY ebikes or my friends ebikes. When you set it to zero peddle assist you get nothing, no throttle at all. All it really does is enable peddle assist with speed limiting. Not the safest for tight turns on narrow trails or climbing over trail obstacles.
Just a little about me, fact not brag, well maybe a little brag😉. I have built 4 gas bikes, one of witch is complete DIY with a Predator motor on it, and 5 ebikes. I've built and repaired a bunch of ebike and scooter batteries. When I build a battery I build them Tesla style. I.E. every 18650 battery has its own fuse. I've worked on bikes and motorcycles since I was a teenager.
Keep the skinny side everyone! 😁👍
He burns through a lot of JUICE but you can get some decent battery life and mileage on this bike if you don't go beast mode. I keep the front motor off and keep it at PA2. In my longest ride Strava says I did 28 miles, with moving time of 3:20 hours. 1070ft elevation and 8.4mph average, with a top speed of 32mph. This ride was 90% on mostly level dirt trails. The battery meter had switched to one bar of battery power just as I finished. I weigh about 190. I figure might have been able to get another 5 miles. This is not bad for such a big bike.
did 32 miles on mine today with 2 bars left and half the ride was in beast mode. I think they get better milage then is stated. I am planning to do a range test this week and will post the results here. This is a under rated badass bike I get some really nice rippage.
Your videos are a pleasure to watch, very informative, well organized, and your sense of humor is amazing. thank you. PS - I would think about a stronger rear rack. That looks like it could only carry my newspaper!
Amazing review, thank you. Not too many videos for this bike.
I love how there’s no indicator for single or dual motor, but ‘I’m sure you’ll be able to tell’ and then you couldn’t tell on the sand haha
6:19 when you think you bought an e-bike but it turns out you bought a TIE fighter
Some a comparing this bike to the Philodo H8 but there a a few differences between the 2 that can be pros or cons based on your preferences. This one has a selectable Rear or AWD switch, rear suspension 160mm rotors and 21 amp controllers with motors that peak at 1150 watts on a full battery charge. Whereas the Philodo has system where the throttle engages AWD and Pedal Assist is Rear drive only without the need for a switch, The Philodo is a Hard Tail, but some of us actually prefer that, and can be countered with a decent suspension seatpost. The Philodo comes with 180mm rotors. finally the Philodo comes with 27 amp controllers for a peak output of 1500 watts on a full charge, the bigger controllers are the reason for the "controller in a bag" as the controller built into the Zeeger and others is limited to 21 amps, so Philodo opted for a separate battery mount and controller
How much is the shipping? And wait time?
@@rasyfopeh2977 I bought one a Philodo and it took three days. Im in Nebraska and I think it came from Cali. You have to be home to sign for it. I wasnt and had to track it down on Saturday at Fedex. Put it together and took it for a ride and damn near died that night.
I just bought one based on this review - waiting for delivery.
I just bought one today based on this review. They only had the black one left. Which is the one I wanted. 😊
@@davidmarcoux6349 how has it been?
How is it?
@@someoneelse6934 I like mine. The range ain't the best. About 15 miles. I bought mine for hunting so the range doesn't bother me. The rear shock absorber is the only thing I found that sucks oh and I have problems with getting the cruise control to come on.
@@someoneelse6934 Really good. I'm quite happy with it. Compared to another e-bike we own it has significantly more power for hill climbing. In fact you have to be careful because it will spin the front wheel on hills if you're not careful. Nice to have the suspension. Haven't done any long rides - mostly around an hour long. No issues with range. After an hour ride the battery still shows 5 bars. Pedal assist 5 is actually too powerful - can't imagine actually using it. PAS 1 or 2 is all you can really use on a trail.
amazing value.....wow..... 👀 your videos are always awesome ty ty
I'm liking the Joker purple.
Sir TailHappy, I hope you read this and I hope you would answer me this question. How wide is the bottom bracket? I think a BBSHD as a third mortor should make me go real fast with a trailer when going up hill. :')
I have seen this video over 4 times now! Can't get enough of it.
Nice review! You just had me confused at your use of 'Pedal Assist' when you indeed were referring to 'Throttle Assist'. Thanks!
The official bike of the LA Lakers?
It also comes in Black, and Army Puke Green. 😉
I get that lot when I ride mine. It is also available in a green and black color, for Lakers haters.
I was thinking of the LSU tigers
Hi buddy can you test the X20 fatt tire electric Bike? /I like your videos and enyoing all moments respect
@@addertooth1 🤔what do you think about it after having it a while, are there any quality/reliability issues??
Hey, dude, I love your channel. Watch It all the time. Try to get a cyrusher trax and test it
Just ordered the black version. Can't wait to receive it. After watching this, i ordered an extra battery too
Did you order through the site ? And are you enjoying the bike I ordered mine on Friday
Where did you find the extra battery and how much was it ? 😅
10:31 - The diameter can be set all the way down to 1", for anyone wondering. 🤫
How much does that change the bike
@@tylerichiyama301 only display value changes ... max speed stays the same
this is looking exactly like the other duel motor you reviewed.
Exactly, but with a different name ??
I bought the Keteles 2000w Pro 23Amp dual motor bike for $1200. It also has dual suspension. I bought my bike from a Chinese supplier with a warehouse in California. I think the bike shown here and my bike are the same.
Yes, the Zeegr, SMLRO, Keteles, Philodo, etc... come from the same factory. There are small differences between these very similar models.
please tell me are you happy so far with the bike? I'm about to purchase one directly from a chinese supplier using the Ali express platform. My only concern with the exterior battery mounting is potential rain exposure.
@@addertooth1Do you know which company or manufacturer produces all of them ? Keteles, Zeegr, Nexus Rider, Ebycco, etc
@@familydenhaag9860 I can't recall the name, but yes it is researchable. I believe they are in Shenzen China.
I like the green version better but that’s a pretty sweet bike for the money!
I rode motorcycles for a lot of years. The number one problem I had was getting the cars to notice me. I chose the brightest and most outlandish color scheme available for this reason. I can see the opposing attorney presenting the idea "the bike was camo green, or, the bike was black at night" and thus harder than normal to see. As we all know, the job of any capable attorney is to shift the blame to the victim.
My bike is festooned with upgraded reflective surfaces for this reason as well, and upgraded tail light too. You can't fix stupid, but at least you can rob his attorney of an arguing point.
@@addertooth1 Well said. The more visible your bike, the better! Never understood the appeal of black bikes. Cant believe when I see people biking at night on a black bike, dressed in dark clothing, with no bike light. I like to always have some kind of fluorescent or reflective clothing on too.
How much was it?
@@hussainali4725 I picked mine up for 1500. I also paid for the (probably useless) Asurion 2 year protection plan. It has so many clauses, it does nothing the first year. You have to wait until the manufacturer's warranty expires before it will pay a dime. So really, you are only getting a year of coverage. The insurance cost about another 180. I would probably not get it again.
Shipping was free.
I could see that as the less expensive hunters bike. Muddy, Sandy, trails with hills bike.
That's what I plan on using it for. Going thru swaps and marsh following the deer trails where I use to hunt when I was much much younger. 63 now lol 😂
@@davidmarcoux6349 how has it been working out for you so far?
@@davidmarcoux6349 did you buy one?
A few things to note, as of 7/8/24 they have made a few changes. The front fork is slightly different now and doesn't have any adjustments on it. They added turn signals, changed the PA controls, phone holder isn't wired in (but there is a USB input on the new controls)and have a powered tail light. As far as mileage goes, I rode the other day and did 28 miles mainly using PA2 which speed is around 18 mph, did a few AWD modes and a couple high speed runs. After that ride, I still had two LED bars on the battery pack itself. If I was planning on a long ride, I would conserve power by staying in single motor mode, and use PA1 or 2 or maybe just get another battery to tote along.
I don't see anything that would make me want this more than my Zeegr S1. I bought the Zeegr after Tailhappy's review last year (review is still up if you search it). The Zeegr has been fantastic - ridden it all summer after buying it in March. It's currently listed in Zeegr's site for $1250 which is a fantastic deal. The Zeegr might be slightly slower but it goes faster than I want to ride it on trails (can still do 35 mph) and it comes with better fenders and a rack.
You never mentioned if the front tire restricted you foot on the pedal? I plan on wearing heavy snow boots and I wear a size 12. Also does this bike have single or dual controller and how many amps
Its the joker colors. Thanks for the awesome content. Im getting ready to buy my first ebike, and your videos have given me a wealth of knowledge. We do not have a big ebike community in my area. Id like to change that. Thanks again!
More like LA Lakers edition!
Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
@@RAZORWlND Hello, my name is Noah and I just wanted to spread the word to you by saying Jesus and God love you very much it says in Revelation 21:3 “Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them.” God is there for you and he sent his one and only son to die on the cross for everyone. If you choose not to believe thats on you. I hope you soak this in. God bless.
just ordered 1 of these bikes and my son ordered 1 also . Thank you for your reviews.
Did you get it? You enjoy it?
@@nyudoragon1478 well my son's bike rear motor making noises and feels like over 15 miles or so starts pulsating. My front motor quit after about a week but rear motor works. Got in contact with boombike slow to respond they are supposed to be sending clutch assembly for my son's rear motor and few parts for mine 2 weeks still waiting for parts. Will update if or when I receive parts . Bike rides ok rear shock is not the best but it is ok.
Yes I just bought this one, thanks for the testing it out for me. $1599usd. 20 golden stars for you my friend as you saved me $300 from your link. So next time your in Chicago I will but you many beers lmao. Thank You TailHappyTV.
I got my bike today and put it together. I took it for a test ride and Holy Shit this bike moves. I am not a big peddler so this one I think is perfect. It was getting late so I could not ride as much as I wanted too but tomorrow is another day and I plan to rip it up!
Update: After almost 2 weeks on this bike and I really enjoy riding this beast. Any terrain you want to master you only have to point your front tire (with both motors engaged and PAS > or = 01) turn the throttle and hang on. I;m telling ya, you will go with the power! It took me a few days to get use to the weight and power and now I only use the rear motor on the street and paved trails, which we have tons of them here by Chicago, When I want to rip dual motors engaged with the touch of a button and again hang on your going for a ride. Now I spent the first 3 days setting it up for the power and speed I like and this bike as it is perfect for me. I;m 5'10 and 165 lbs and I feel this is how the default settings were set. Put it together while charging (topping off) your battery jump on it and ride. As for range I can't really say as sometimes, because I pedal all the time and the battery meter reads full on short trips. Even if I cruise around town running errands within a 5 miles plus radius. When you buy this ebike I highly recommend pedaling, which feels really good on this Zeegr S1. Guarantee you get the stated mileage if not more just by putting the pedals down, it is good for you too so. They should name this bike "The Ripper".
did u buy it from the link in the description?
@@dscapnico4211 Yes
Looks like the in-between model from the Philodo H8 to the Philodo Jumbo with dual batteries at the same price as the H8. Nice!
What do you think about this vs the Philodo H8 aside from the obvious lack of rear suspsension?
I have one. For me the rear factory shock is too stiff, and feels like there is little or no suspension in the rear. I am upgrading mine to a 55 dollar shock unit which is "sprung lighter". The H8 also has less favorable location for the controller boxes. Some have complained they get rubs from the wheel on the H8 under full suspension compression on the early models, they have since moved that box down closer to the crank-set to resolve this issue.
I'm not crazy about the look of the bike but, it's probably a little better than a lot of these new inexpensive AWD bikes, because it runs off of a Bafang system and it looks like it comes with a rebranded RST fork witch has more robust drop outs so it should be able to handle the torque of the front motor. I don't trust the dropout of a lot of these budget suspension forks with a front motors.
@@bassw1758 The re-enforcing hood in the casting is over 5/8ths inches thick on the front forks. They are quite beefy. I measured mine.
@@addertooth1 there's a reason for the location of the secondary controller on the Philodo, With the Zeeger the controller built into the battery mount is only 21 +/-1 Amps is the secondary controller to match so the motors PEAK at 1000 watts at 48 volts, Phildo opted for a separate battery mount and controller so they could run 27 +/- 2 controllers which peaks at 1300 watts at 48 volts
Nice bike AWD full suspension unless you’re short like me the only thing it’s missing is dual battery
I really like the look of this bike.. aesthetically pleasing in my eyes
Hey how's it going? I really think you do the best reviews! You explain every detail really well!💯 Do you know if there is a mid-drive bike that also has a front hub motor?
Can you purchase a second battery?
Awesome videos like always gets me hyped when you upload in this channel or juicedjoyrides ❤
Using 2 motors is more efficient than using 1 motor, because lets say that you are power outputting 2000 watts and you decide to use single motor for that and that would be harsh for that motor, but if you use dual motors it will split the power between them like 1000watts rear and 1000watts in the front.
Someone correct me if im wrong.
It is complicated. Most brushless motors have a "sweet spot" where they are efficient. If you are pushing a motor at the ragged edge, you are producing heat and less mechanical motion per watt utilized. As long as the "ONE" motor is in it's sweet spot, its efficiency will be high. A motor pushed harder will have the coils approaching "saturation", which leads to more energy being used to produce HEAT instead of rotational force.
The motors on the Zeegr are reputed to be 82 Newton-meters of torque. This equates to about 60 foot-pounds of torque per motor. This gives a total of 120 foot pounds of torque. However, to preserve the internal gears in the hub, the controller has a "soft ramp up" when you peg the throttle. So your first second or so does not unleash full torque immediately. This is why the creator of the video had to take multiple stabs at the 0 to 20 time, until he realized if you tag the throttle, let off, then immediately tag the throttle, this can defeat the soft ramp up feature. This gave about a 5 second 0 to 20 time.
Yeah im subbing and im buying one, the ENTHUSIASM!
What is the better off-road hill climber? This bike or philodo jumbo or a bike like the wired freedom or ecells
This one has the most torque and dual motors so Zeegr s1
It looks like it has turn signal buttons, is the rechargeable taillight just remote controlled?
I came across your videos while being curious about e-bikes in Nov 2024. I thoroughly enjoyed your videos and your upbeat attitude. Keep up the excellent work and you gained a new subscriber. 🫡🤝
brother, any tip on a bike that i can do deliveries with ? also a good looking one :D
Just recently got mine (Canada). I had to wait for the shipment which was enroute when I bought it. Shipped from Montreal. Purchase was painless, delivery happened when promised, assembly was straightforward. On normal flat ground the extra motor is not really noticeable - the bike doesn't accelerate very much quicker. Where you do notice is starting out on a hill or simply going up a hill. This is in comparison to another ebike I own. On a gravel hill or loose soil the bike will spin front wheel briefly - that's a surprising feeling of torque. I tried the bike out on several steep rough surface hills and the bike is capable of propelling me up the hill faster than I'd want to go - had to use less than full power.
Did you order your bike from BoomBike directly as someone mentioned that they don't ship to Canada?
@@billstock3663 Hello. Yes, I ordered directly and it was shipped to me from Montreal. I don't know if they have discontinued shipping to Canada since I got mine but it worked fine for me.
@@Aerkavo I actually live in Montreal so are you saying that there must be a warehouse located in Montreal? Is the parent company BoomBike or was it another distributor?
@@billstock3663 Well, why don't you contact them and ask. I bought it directly from the website - contacted them with a few questions, paid, bike delivered a few months later (there was a shipment enroute already).
@@Aerkavo it's available on Amazon for $2400 +taxes or approx
$2800 cdn. Is this bike able to use only one motor without any of the PAS modes?
You sold me. Mine comes in two days.
I hate these soft start slow start controllers. 1 minute the motors creep in the next minute is tourqueinh out. Wonder of shunt mod would fix that?
There is a setting in the display for adjusting the "ramp up rate". It comes from the factory at a 3. I set mine to a 5, and it comes off the line even better.
Do any of the batteries from your other bikes fit this one? I would really like to see a review where you actually drain the battery completely with mostly paved riding. And maybe try that steep hill. If you had a spare battery you could fully drain it. Going based on "oh no, its down to one bar" who knows you could be anywhere from 10-40% charge. Definitely should do a second test on this one. Its down to $1100. Seems to good to be true.
There are no single.controller dual motor bikes, unless it's a single controller, dual channel. They would get out of sync very quickly and the cogging from the pulses hitting the motor at the wrong time would cause it to tear.itself apart fairly quickly.
Very similar to the philodo h8. im sure they are built in the same factory. or the same manufacturer. I love my h8 so ill be recommending this for my dad. i love the full suspension on this.
Have you tried the AMYET S8 Electric Bike yet? I can't find any reviews.
Hey Dude, thank's to you I bought the Wired Freedom Ebike. I've watched all of your video's on RUclips and I really appreciate your technical and professional advice. One question that I have is will you ever remove that black skuff mark from your floor? It's a small eye sore😊
Your OCD really kicked in! 🤣
@@J.D.Vision LMAO, It's in every video
@@jamesramsey7767I can appreciate a visual signs of someone who looks like they’ve been doing this a while.
It looks like he lives in an apartment. Most likely he will have to pay for it to get replaced or lose his deposit. It’s very noticeable.
What if you took the control box and battery from the 62V bike and put it on this thing? Which bikes have dual motors and clear indicators that you are using AWD? It seems that's something this bike is missing.
Let it be known to all present: TailHappy coined the awesome term, "range-anxiety". Love it, lol😂
Is this another smlro v3 plus?
I ordered one of these. The one I got shipped has no adjustment on the front shock. They are putting a cheaper shock on it now.
Do you do Stair case test in your videos? how hard is it to carry up/down a few steps. I myself built a 500w ebike on a 29er ccm bike with 48v17.5Ah battery. it would be hard to lift if I put 2 batteries, but I want that next. 17.5Ah gets me to work and home no problem.
Hi, came across this channel and love the reviews. Have been really thinking of getting a E-bike and want a dual motor. Thoughts on BoomBike vs Philodo H8? Thanks. KUTGW!
someone commented that under this video, and he said "this"
What app do you use on your cell phone to display the MPH/
Like your reviews. Tks. Do you know if it's a freewheel or cassette style? And is front fork an imitation tapered or actually tapered? Someone said the battery is 21700 cells, is that correct?
The video plainly shows a typical, freewheeling cassette.
Not a tapered head.
yes batteries are 21700
There are a lot of people that like to ride fast for 1/2 hour to 45 minutes and they are good for the day. I think range anxiety is highly overrated.
Hi awesome video, I’m Sold I just used your code to purchase the S1 thanks again
How do we reset the odometer/trip ?
press and hold info and minus button together to reset trip...
Menue p16 can be used for reset odo and trip
Whats the range when using dual motor?
today my seeker 26 arrived... near same bike ... runs about 56 kmh unrestricted
I guess 52V 25 amp controllers would give it some Big Boy Bike specs.. They would need to go with a rack battery extra however
Does this ship as a class 2 e bike?
do a e bike collection vid
$1499 minus $120 code = $1379 free shipping and no tax, this seems like too good to be true for this dual motor 35MPH full suspension 22.5ah e-bike. Is it reliable?
only time will tell! this thing is fairly new but it's a pretty basic frame, a lot of parts out there are interchangeable if you want to upgrade or replace anything
I have a bit over 300 miles on mine. The only needed repairs I did was on the seat, and I fixed a flat tire. I added Flat-Out sealant to my tires after the second flat (I didn't patch the second flat). The sealant fixed the hole just by re-inflating the tire and riding it. Oh, and the reflector popped out of one pedal, I pressed it back in.
See my post in this thread for "suggested upgrades".
Think the color has something to do with it,
@bassw1758 there is a nice green color!
@@RAZORWlND I've seen a khaki color too, looks real nice but they wanted a couple hundred dollars more for it.
Bro bought this bike about a week ago 💀 I wish I had seen this video before then
How does your wife handle you riding these bikes in your home? 😅
I can’t even bring my shoes into the house 😆
He has a storage unit, seen in some of his other videos. It is quite a collection of enviable bikes. His Motor Goat v3 video shows some of his bikes in storage.
Guess we know who wears the pants, and who wears the skirt.
nice - if only they made it in a step thru. .
same for the philodo - no step thru, yet
Can you review the Ristretto 512 a24?
Whenever i go to pay for the bike using the link in the description the payment doesn’t go through and it says error. anyway to fix this?
do these ship to australia ??????????
Greetings from the other side of this gem we’re FUBAR
thanks for your work in posting this informative, interesting, helpful piece, I’m in need of a bike capable of pulling my fat ass plus a solar trailer that’s over 150kg , do you feel this bike could do this job
Thanks again for your post was nice time spent for this old stone’a
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🤙🏼🤟🏼🖖🏼
all these ebikes need a bigger crank wheel at the front .. or you feel like on a spinning bike if you are at 20 or 25 miles an hour
Totally agree - I do not know why the bike makers do not routinely use bigger cranks. Its frustrating having to replace the front crank as soon as you get the bike. You also have to look closely at the bike to make sure it has room for a larger crank lest you buy the bike with the intention of changing to a bigger crank only to find there is not room for it. There are a few bikes that have big cranks (wired freedom, ecells, ariel kepler) and they let you peddle and contribute right up in the 30's which is really nice
That battery looks exactly like the secondary backup batteries for goat power bikes LOL and they are Samsung batteries and I have two on my motor goat and two on my power goat and holy crap do those things book ass. I was hitting 50 mph with no problem and with dual batteries you get so much more range it's just ridiculous. And I got my discount for my goat power bikes from this channel actually and now I'm an affiliate with goat power bikes and by just using my name as the discount coupon in the checkout you save on your whole order so that's pretty cool
Looks a lot like my Philodo that I just passed 10600 miles:)
It's very similar to your Philodo. It's probably made by the same manufacturer in the same factory . I think the only differences are that the Philodo has the second motor controller in a bag. It does not have dual suspension and does not have a button to turn off the front motor. You can get a suspension seat post to make up for that. The Philodo only uses the front motor when you use the throttle, which I wish the Zeegr still had as an option. When I need extra power I have to hit the button, make sure my PA level is at least 3, and then use the throttle. It would be nice to be able to do that in one motion by just using the throttle but also be able to use the front motor at other times.
BTW, love your videos.
@@papablueshirt 10k miles?? you should regrease the gears soon... Bafang says 15 to 20 000 kilometers.. so you are on that border to service your gears
@@dg9bfc I am actually way past that now and still going strong. I may grease the back when I change my rear tire, if these Ultraverse tires ever wear out LOL The guy from Grin technologies said he is not convinced the nylon gears ever need greasing. Maybe I will be a case study 😀
I bought a Rundeer Attack 10, which has a much more aesthetic look to it~
how much does it cost
I'm waiting for something legally stealthy, all wheel drive (AWD), and super fast like the WIRED Freedom.
Why not get the Wired Freedom then? You wont get anything better for 2k
I guess it depends on what is legal where you are. In my state they allow 500watt motors and 20mph max speed. That's a class 2 Ebike spec. The Wired Freedom can come shipped as a "class 2" bike as an option, but it's a fiction. They put an emblem on it that says "class 2" but you can unlock the higher speeds and power. It also only has one motor. There's no way a dual motor bike will pass a cursory inspection if a cop wants to get picky.
@@Tom-ol5zz Keep in mind the wired freedom was slower in the sand test. The Zeegr was hitting 20 MPH across the soft dry sand. The Wired was slower (in spite of it's higher power rating). If you are a 100 percent street rider, then the Wired Freedom would make sense.
This or the ecells e bike…any thoughts…?
Ecells for sure
Thank you!! So much!!
What is the max weight limit I weigh 300 lb and I'm 6 ft 2 you think there's bike can handle me I'm trying to get in shape because I have a disability
Hi. How is this bike compared philodo H8
the H8 has more power because of it's dual 27 +/- 2 amp conytollers compared to the 21 amp ones this has
this one has rear suspension, the h8 is hardtail
This bike or the philodo? Any thoughts people?
This
@@TailHappyTV thanks. I was leaning this way because you can actually turn the front motor off with a button push.
how do I get it
Can you try? Gt20 e-bike
Question to everybody: I need such a bike only for short distances on paved/asphalt roads. I live in the mountains (incline between 5% and 12%. When i saw how he barely can make it out of the garage because of the incline: Is this bike strong enough for asphalt roads to get up a hill with 5% to 12%?
I appreciate your answers!
It pulled up the 20 degree grade in the garage while accelerating so no problem with 5-12% grades. The first test he did was single motor and the grade was 20% - Most of the dual motor bikes I have seen him test with one motor cannot make it up the grade so not a big surprise. Based too on its sand performance the bike appears to be quite torquey and definitely will be a good hill climber though keep in mind 2 motors means double battery burn rate. For normal cruising I suspect one would want to run single motor and only use the second when you need it....
The Easter bunny bike?...do you get a chocolate egg coloring kit with the bike?
cant buy in Canada :(
I don't get why companies in the US won't ship o Canada, but they will import almost all their stuff from China
They do now.
Pode testdrive shengmilo s600, thanks
That creaking noise, was the the pedals?
I suspect (but do not know for sure) that it is the rear suspension. Mine used to make that noise until I changed out the rear shock unit to a lighter 750 pound-inch spring shock unit. Unless you are hard-core mountain biking 3 foot drop offs, the factory shock is too stiff. You will note in the video is is getting good movement on the front shocks, and virtually none on the rear shock.
Do you know a fast ebike that comes whit a app where you can change the speed limed fast on your phone?
Itdoesnt matter how fast it is. It matter's if it will still be running in a year with 5 or 10,000. miles on it. If it trust worthy? If its like my Ariel Rider Grizzly 52v X-2 it is a Xi-Nese piece of garbage.
Why doesn't the author of this video respond. That's the real answer ‼️
I bought this bike based on this review. The bike would not do more than 32mph, and the rear suspension was rigid. I had to pedal crazy hard to get the 32 and in normal use would not do that. I returned the bike as it had been misrepresented.
What do you weigh? We need more info from you.
Juiced Joyrides colors they couldn't wait to send you this one 😂
Perfect Lakers colors! You need to spray paint a number 8, a tribute to Kobe Bryant.
Wait. A 1000w bike couldn't make it up that grade on throttle only?
it mightt be able to but cut that speed in half
Torque is what matters for hill climbing, not wattage .
@@jdnuhdfdfwattage is voltage X current ... and current equals torque...
Awesome