EcoFlow Delta Max vs Off Grid Cabin
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
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The EcoFlow Delta Max is one of the top Middlecap solar generators to come out and I put it to the test against my off-grid cabin to see if it can stand up to the test. 
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Until coming to America to live, from the UK, being without grid-power for any extended period, was virtually unknown in my lifetime (I'm 66), so I couldn't get into the idea of 'prepper-mode' here in NY. Clearly there are plenty of Americans who can not only afford the usual trappings of homelife, family, consistent income etc, but also these 'cabins in the woods' too. Such arrangements are almost unheard of in the UK where both land & property are very costly. I'm not knocking the American advantage at all however as these channels go worldwide, it really magnifies the differences regarding solar opportunities.
Now, of course, following Covid & current disputes elsewhere, costs for grid-supply is practically extortionate and there will be plenty of Britons who'd like to move into solar to supplement, if not replace, their grid-supply.
Now the UK isn't exactly blessed with regularly clear skies but roof-solar has been touted as a method to reduce monthly electricity costs but the systems are again, too costly for many people to consider. This leads me to the presentation here and where I'd say Britons would very much like to consider the sogen market but a quick look through Amazon UK, shows limited suppliers. Fortunately both Ecoflow & Bluetti have a presence but I would guess the larger capacity units are beyond most homeowners.
For myself, as funding is tight, I'll be starting with a Delta Mini in the US and when back home, hope I can squeeze savings into a UK-version too, in order to run both US & UK, low wattage appliances and relying upon water-heating, cooking (stove) & airspace-heating, with propane, with a small woodstove as backup.
Thank you for illuminating the possibilities of these systems, even though most will be out of reach for my own situ.
Thanks for commenting. Life is definitely different here in the USA. One of the major differences being that we haven't had civilized people living in the USA for thousands of years like the UK has. So land hasn't been as densely populated as other places around the world.
*Absolutely perfect for what we use . **Generater.Systems** for Our 500wt power station! Love it!!!!*
I have too say, "Your cabin is absolutely gorgeous on the inside!"
Great informative vid👍 the part about watching the charging rates coming from the expanded batteries was especially useful. Thanks for this head's up. 👍
Great idea 2 Ecoflow delta pro and 4 Ecoflow Delta Pro Expansion Battery Kit ( 10,800 KWH
Test it out
Hi all,
So....I have a hack that I literally just thought of for people who can't afford another Delta Pro or extra battery BUT need additional power and own another ecoflow battery. I have called ecoflow and given them the idea as well and they confirmed that it will in fact work!! I then asked them why they don't tell everyone after I've told them and they said they would "escalate the idea" to their top tier and perhaps add it to their FAQs. So here's the idea: We've been told that you must have like systems in order to use them together. This is NOT actually true. If your Delta Pro is low on power (or any other ecoflow system you have) you can simply plug its charging cable (in the rear) into the front of the secondary system. In other words you're using the second system as a wall outlet of sorts. This works especially well in the evening when the sun is down and there is no more backup energy. What do you do when the sun is up?...even better...plug the second system from the rear into the front of the Delta Pro. This allows the sun to charge them BOTH regardless of the differences of their capacities or sizes!!! The only word of caution they gave me after saying what a great idea this was, was to say don't forget to lower the charging speed on the Delta Pro once it's plugged into the front of the second system. Guys this means you can use anything from a River and up to charge your Delta Pro OR any other ecoflow system. If this works for you please like my comment and say "Thanks T!!" just so I'll know at least I was able to communicate something helpful to the solar community-especially since these systems are sooooo expensive!!!
Thanks for the great video. Much appreciate it.
Thansk for watching :)
For me, the Delta Max is the perfect solar generator that I can use for my RV, my off grid cabin and the power tools I have in my garage.
That's great to hear! It really is a good unit, I will be doing a lot more testing and have more uses for it. I will be doing an RV test video in the coming month or two. If you plan on getting one please consider purchasing it through poweredportablesolar.com/shop/ to help suppor the channel :)
It's good to know that even after buying the Delta Max, I could still expand the capacity by adding extra batteries to it.
Indeed. I love expandable units.
Thanks MM! Good video. God Bless!
No competition for the Titan, mine with 3 batteries and 2,000 watts panels, run my whole house during the day with 100 percent charged
That means you wasted money then , cuz you didn't need all that
I'd say the solar input is the only downer here.I run up to 3 window AC units during summer with my Titan and that during the day can draw up to 1500watts if they all hit at the same time.I have 2000watts solar panels coming in so if it was down to 800 I'd only be able to run 1 maybe 2 ACs at best during the day without draining any battery that is.
I want a Delta Pro Dammit. My Delta 1300 is ok but if they had the MAX or PRO when I purchased I totally would've gone bigger. Great vid Ben👍
@@scarygary3569 Thanks Gary. Videos on the DP coming soon. I've already got them setup in my garage.
One suggestion. You could overpanel the Delta Max without any issues so long as you remain under max voltage.
I wouldn't mind having the Delta Max power my off grid cabin. 2000 watts is more than enough.
It is a very good base unit, and its expandability helps a lot. If you decide to get please consider getting through poweredportablesolar.com/shop/ to help support the channel.
Running lions is essential, houndsmen are needed by ranchers when they have cougars prowling or even killing their livestock, which is how they make their living, so the houndsmen, who usually run treeing walker coonhounds trained from the time they can open their eyes, don’t kill the cats or go deep up into the woods to find them, but they chase them away from any farms or ranches back to their own hunting grounds in high country, in most places there’s even a season that ends when cows go to market, except when really needed. That being said I don’t think that’s the case in this video as I’m pretty sure they shot the cougar in the full video… I don’t know the circumstances or where they’re at so I cat speculate on that part.
Titan 2000 watt solar input is the game changer.
I plan to use for a single weekly item ( laundry
i think using solar to recharge over the week .it maybe enough ,not using the dryer thou. i want my system tobe as flexable as poss.. i also have 10kw grid tied battery but i want MORE.
The Delta Max would be a good unit for that. If you end up getting one please consider purchasing through PoweredPortableSolar.com/shop/ to help support the channel. Thanks for subbing and commenting :)
Great video. Thank you. Can you elaborate on your solar panel set up? Brand? Size? Panel specs? How many panels? VOC? connected in series,? Paralell?
I will be doing that in another video. If I did that in this video it would've made it too long.
Also for the cost of the Max and two batteries you could have gotten a Pro w/ 1 battery and had 7.2 kWh of power and 1600w max solar input.
good point ..
If you look at the cost premium for a D.C. fridge, and consider the efficiency compared to a good A.C. fridge, the A.C. fridge might be a better option, especially if you want features not offered in a D.C. fridge.
If you do go with an A.C. fridge, to make it more efficient you can dedicate an inverter to the fridge, and rewire the fridge thermostat to turn on and off the inverter instead of switching A.C. A quality inverter sized to efficiently power the fridge, and remote on/off via the fridge thermostat, will be very efficient.
Agreed. But I think the simplicity of using a DC while getting more efficient power use is one way to look at it too.
@@minutemanprep Maybe you are shopping a small chest style fridge or maybe there has been a huge advance in D.C. fridges in the past 5 or so years?
Simplicity yes. Efficiency, likely not cost effective unless you have no space to put an additional 100-200 watts of P.V. and a few more watt-hours of battery storage. (Forget about anything that isn't compressor driven unless the only thing you care about is simplicity or you do not want to use electricity.)
20 years ago the D.C. fridges targeted to offgrid use lost the efficiency crown. They weren't even close any more. Energy Star ratings drove a huge improvement in A.C. fridges available off the shelf in any town.
Unless you are talking one of the little chest style compressor fridges, a small inverter dedicated to a good A.C. fridge is almost always more efficient. Unless a fridge has a brushless D.C. compressor they are a poor choice and possibly even then. A brushless D.C. motor, also known as electronic commutation, requires basically the same circuitry as an inverter but is sized as close as possible to perfect and so can be more efficient. These are somewhat rare and pricey but available in the high-end small compressor chest fridges. More commonly what I've been seeing in the cheaper models and in D.C. uprights are either cheap D.C. motors (not great for efficiency or lifetime) or else an A.C. compressor integrated with a built-in inverter. This buys you the simplicity of someone else doing the integration and hopefully single point for contact for warranty. But you pay for it.
I found I could easily buy more PV and batteries and run a good household fridge for less than the difference in cost.
Put a kilowatt accumulating meter on a newer home fridge and see how much (little) electricity it uses.
I can't believe that this powerful solar generator charges faster than my power bank.
It does charge extremely fast and it's even cooler that there is no big power brick to plug into the wall. There is a lot of good design work that into this unit. poweredportablesolar.com/shop/
Seems to me that the Delta Max is the exact fit for my off grid power needs.
That's wonderful to hear! If you're interested in supporting the channel and help me to get more units to test and review, please consider purchasing through poweredportablesolar.com/shop/ :)
Do you sell a faraday bag large enough to cover a Titan solar generator? I think a good idea for a video would be to go over what a faraday bag is and what a Super EMP weapon being used would mean to our electronic i.e. solar generators, solar panels, household appliances. Maybe go over what could be done to protect our equipment in the event of something like the Carrington Event that occurred in the 1800's. Thank you for your channel. I rarely miss an episode.
Yes I do, you can find it at poweredportablesolar.com/shop/ you'll want the XXL size. For Super EMP protection be sure to get two bags, and nest them by putting one inside of the other. Great video suggestion. I have added it to my list of videos to make.
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Great stuff, keep it up!
Does the app display solar and external battery input separately?
For grid outage backup I would start with 2 main units for redundancy before adding external batteries, which would of course double the solar input capacity. As Will Prowse covered in his Delta Pro review, perhaps Bluetti has an advantage for some use cases with their external batteries having DC output and MPPT controllers for solar input.
Yes there are pros and cons to both the EcoFlow and Bluetti units, it basically just pick either one and make it work. I don't recall about the solar input and battery input in the app.
Yes, without a good amount of Solar, you could not use that charger to run an AC Unit, even with the extra batteries.
seems like you could disconnect the extra batteries to see how much solar was coming into the main unit .. a set up like that has to be over $5000 with 2 extra batteries .. also was not clear as you were rattling off numbers what the test was .. was it to see if you could power the entire cabin from the delta and then recharge it or what ?? also be nice to know your location and elevation for comparison purposes ...
I can’t afford a Titan, or Bluetti, or jackery solar generator. I know I need one for preparedness. What are your thoughts on the Natures generator?
You're better off getting a Firman 3200w gas/propane generator instead of a natures generator. The natures generator are the absolute worst. No matter what you do, do not buy one of those.
Is the RV plub 110V or 220V?
oh yeah i,v subbed
Will the solar panels that I install for the Delta Max on my truck camper roof. If I don't turn off the camper inverter switch the solar will only charge my house battery right,. I will still keep my two house batteries that came with the camper I might even upgrade them to a better battery, I will have to turn off the inverter on my camper when using the Delta Max 400 if not the Delta Max 400 will charge my house battery right. Sorry for all the questions trying to get all this done the sale on the Delta Max 400 will end in two days. Is there a way I can talk to you over the phone?
I'm not sure what you mean by "turn off the camper inverter" since the Delta Max has it's own inverter that you'd be using to power the camper. When the camper is plugged into the Delta Max, the Delta Max is powering your camper, including recharging the onboard batteries. Once you disconnect or turn off the Delta Max, the onboard batteries will begin running the camper.
I do have a phone number you can find here: poweredportablesolar.com/contact-us/
Can you please tell me where did you get the beds? Thankyou 😊
The cabin beds? They just off of Amazon
MM did you build the solar array yourself
Yes I did. I designed the stand myself just using treated lumber. But, if I had to do it again, I would go with an Ironridge ground mount. I used that to install the ground mount for my A/C and heat mini split, you can see that video here: ruclips.net/video/tKIldEHPeBk/видео.html And here's the video of the wooden stand: ruclips.net/video/k5xtiv0TjDo/видео.html&t
Bluetti ac300 blows that away.
Yes they're two different classes of solar generators technically. I'll have a video explaining all of that in the next week or two. But I am excited to purchase an AC300 and test that one out too. Saving my pennies.
@@minutemanprep hey dude can you hook extension cords up from a solar generator to AC wall unit. 12 gauge of course.
I think bluetti new systems are the only ones competing with the titan I have 2 eb500s love em
Yep that's a fact.
I have begun testing the EcoFlow Delta Pro and it's definitely up there when it comes to competing with the Titan. Videos to come.
What mountain?
Why change from the titan? Seems to be better specd’
I didn't change from the Titan, I was just testing the Delta Max's capability. I feel the Delta Max is NOT good enough for an off-grid cabin but definitely a great option for a van build or very small RV without using the A/C.
@@minutemanprep oh that explains it. Now looking at titan! Thank you!
@@luisgarza2203 of course! Please reach out to us here: poweredportablesolar.com/shop/ so we can help you anywhere you need an get extra discounts for you.
Why would you not start with all three at %100?
Just doing the math at a max of 800 watts of solar input ZERO chance you could use this for anything important if your input is less then your output.
Sorry I am confused by your question. Why not start all three at 100% when? They started at 100% when I got to the cabin. I was using it in a real world setup so that if I needed to depend on it I could tell if it would work.
Why didn't you max out the solar Input?
I wondered that as well. Just assumed he didn't want to take more from the Titan or the panels would allow for it with the volt limit
Just becuase the solar panels that I had available at the cabin wouldn't allow me to max out the solar due to the 100v max solar input parameter. Each solar panel up there does 39v so putting three of them together would've killed the charge controller. I will have another video where I use my 100w panels to max out the solar input properly without damaging the unit.
@@AskIveSolar pretty much. didn't want to exceed to voltage input on the charge controller
It's only a 100volts and 10 amps. Should be 145 volts 15amps.
Hamstrung the delta, solar should have been 2p2s at a minimum