Is he saying all people come in 5 days are innovative or creative? Or only creative or innovative people should work in Amazon? If yes I would be curious to see if they are going to let 2/3rd of employees by themselves or been fired by Amazon itself.
so instead of mandating certain days in the office they required everyone all day five days? Really creative leadership AWS.... performative work really is the metrics by which these CEOs still live by
He wants to lay off employees without paying severance. Yes, they will lose top talent. But my guess is he'll lure them back with money when the dust settles. They may have to pay more than before to get them back but the savings from avoiding severance will likely be a net gain. That's probably the cold hard math the leadership did.
So he spends most of the interview talking about the future, how the world is changing, how the world is advancing. Then at the end says the old way of 5 day in office is the only way. So guess innovation only exists until it reaches a workers rights to work life balance.
As you rightly identified, these are tools. You use the tool based on the job. In my job we already use a hybrid approach even when going in to work most days of the week.
There are several reasons why the PR line is BS: 1. Some of the VPs+ of Amazon are remote, but "exempted," so it's selectively applied. 2. Even if everybody does go to the office, the majority of teams are distributed around the US. So there's STILL not that chummy random waste of time chatting with other people on your team instead of working. Everybody is just on zoom calls in the office instead of on zoom calls at home. 3. If you really want MORE meetings instead of working, then schedule "innovation" meetings. There is NO scenario where this increases production or innovation. Literally just a covert way of doing layoffs and not having to pay severance. Especially around XMas, just stop being Scrooge and if you want to fire people then own up and pay the severance.
A "working in the office" policy is the sign of a very narrow minded management. Yes, employees have taken advantage of working at home, but the reality is an employee can get their job done no matter where they are located assuming it's not a hands-on job. The real problem with telecommuting rests with management - they have no idea how to objectively measure their employee's work so they think if they are in the office that's evidence the company is getting work out of them. The only thing that needs to be done is define each employee's Statement Of Work for that year and periodically and objectively measure them to that SOW. If they are getting their work done then LEAVE THEM ALONE!!! The stress and huge amount of time associated with commuting to work and being in an office with noise and sick employees is so detrimental to employees' health, yet a company can't or won't see that.
I hope Amazon experience a big brain drain and the people that are FORCED to return or get fired with zero severance do the bare minimum. No one likes to have a gun pointed to their, given an ultimatum and also have these companies making billions of dollars weasle their way out of compensating people to being fired. This CEO is bottom of the barrel s-bag imho.
I would like to know more about the "9 out of 10" thing. It puts a severe question about the honesty and genuineness of AWS and its business representatives, if this claim just passes by without any explanation. in short, nobody wants to buy anything from a company with "9 out of 10" liars.
I have heard Amazon work policy is evil, so it is no surprise at least for me, and it might very well be same with many other companies. AI accelerates it super fast, we will see things by 2023/34 that many would’ve not imagined. Good luck to corporate America.
Return to office starts at 17:05
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Is he saying all people come in 5 days are innovative or creative? Or only creative or innovative people should work in Amazon? If yes I would be curious to see if they are going to let 2/3rd of employees by themselves or been fired by Amazon itself.
so instead of mandating certain days in the office they required everyone all day five days? Really creative leadership AWS.... performative work really is the metrics by which these CEOs still live by
He wants to lay off employees without paying severance. Yes, they will lose top talent. But my guess is he'll lure them back with money when the dust settles. They may have to pay more than before to get them back but the savings from avoiding severance will likely be a net gain. That's probably the cold hard math the leadership did.
So he spends most of the interview talking about the future, how the world is changing, how the world is advancing. Then at the end says the old way of 5 day in office is the only way. So guess innovation only exists until it reaches a workers rights to work life balance.
With leaders like him, who needs idiots?
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good observation 👍
Yes, everyone Must join in-person. good days over 🎉
I'm curious - will all meetings be in-person only after the return to office, or will employees continue to use tools like Zoom, Chime, and Teams?
As you rightly identified, these are tools. You use the tool based on the job.
In my job we already use a hybrid approach even when going in to work most days of the week.
Will be still on chime. People from a team are working from different offices in different locations.
There are several reasons why the PR line is BS:
1. Some of the VPs+ of Amazon are remote, but "exempted," so it's selectively applied.
2. Even if everybody does go to the office, the majority of teams are distributed around the US. So there's STILL not that chummy random waste of time chatting with other people on your team instead of working. Everybody is just on zoom calls in the office instead of on zoom calls at home.
3. If you really want MORE meetings instead of working, then schedule "innovation" meetings.
There is NO scenario where this increases production or innovation.
Literally just a covert way of doing layoffs and not having to pay severance.
Especially around XMas, just stop being Scrooge and if you want to fire people then own up and pay the severance.
This guy is something else
A "working in the office" policy is the sign of a very narrow minded management. Yes, employees have taken advantage of working at home, but the reality is an employee can get their job done no matter where they are located assuming it's not a hands-on job. The real problem with telecommuting rests with management - they have no idea how to objectively measure their employee's work so they think if they are in the office that's evidence the company is getting work out of them. The only thing that needs to be done is define each employee's Statement Of Work for that year and periodically and objectively measure them to that SOW. If they are getting their work done then LEAVE THEM ALONE!!! The stress and huge amount of time associated with commuting to work and being in an office with noise and sick employees is so detrimental to employees' health, yet a company can't or won't see that.
They asked AWS employees what they thought of RTO and 9 out of 10 agreed they prefer Sneeds Seed and Feed. The science is settled.
I hope Amazon experience a big brain drain and the people that are FORCED to return or get fired with zero severance do the bare minimum. No one likes to have a gun pointed to their, given an ultimatum and also have these companies making billions of dollars weasle their way out of compensating people to being fired. This CEO is bottom of the barrel s-bag imho.
I would like to know more about the "9 out of 10" thing. It puts a severe question about the honesty and genuineness of AWS and its business representatives, if this claim just passes by without any explanation. in short, nobody wants to buy anything from a company with "9 out of 10" liars.
AI can work remote?
I have heard Amazon work policy is evil, so it is no surprise at least for me, and it might very well be same with many other companies. AI accelerates it super fast, we will see things by 2023/34 that many would’ve not imagined. Good luck to corporate America.
Amazon is old 🗝️, shift to Microsoft or Google cloud.
I got ripped off by aws. Poor customer service, they charge high amount for the so called business support
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Greed
RTO is just layoffs by another name
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