My headcanon is that Starclan doesn't usually let apprentices choose their own warrior names but Flintfang got Badgerpaw's hopes up and they were put on the spot.
@@youknowwhatelseisbig484in any other series, i might question the validity of this sort of backstory spurring a character into evil. in warriors, it just makes sense /joke
@@youknowwhatelseisbig484I don’t think he’d be evil in the afterlife. I do think, if he had lived, he would be one of Brokenstar’s strongest allies, even moreso than Blackfoot.
So true. You'd think that if they want more they might just steal and if they do not want clans involved I dont think anything stopped him from stealing from rogues or loners and blaming on another clan to cause even more trouble,come to think of it.
I always didnt like how elders were portrayed, they always just sat there doing nothing but complaining. And becoming an elder was treated like a demotion. I think it would make more sense for them to be advisors who were very respected since they have a lot of wisdom, helping the leader and other cats make decisions instead of laying around just being useless
@@sneedcat88I know. I have no idea why they’re all grouchy, half of them chose to retire on their own, so theirs no reason they can complain about not being out in the forest. I really HATE how they write elders.
i hate how elder care is always an "apprentice task", and is used as a punishment. like damn, i'd be grumpy too if the only people caring for me in my old age, after years of hard work and service, were angry teenagers
I think Flintfang's characterization between the Warrior Code and Badgerpaw's safety is super interesting as a character flaw. I would love to have a more major character struggle between blind loyalty and their love for someone close to them.
Re: the kittens in StarClan bit. I always subscribed to the idea that cats appear in StarClan as they were happiest in life - which is why, for example, Bluestar appeared to grow younger, while someone like Yellowfang is generally still seen as grouchy and older? Because ThunderClan is where she WAS happiest. The three kits who drowned evidently had their life predetermined (although, in my opinion, it's kind of cyclic? They always would have died, they never would have reached those positions, but that WAS their destiny, theoretically), but most cats, like Snowkit or Mosskit, do not have set paths. Smallstar and his siblings had a "path" on which they could choose any point to ascend to StarClan from, just like any other fully grown warrior or medicine cat, but for the other kits who died, this path hadn't been set. It's literally the only thing that makes a modicum of sense, to me.
So Briarlight was happier before her spine was broken and the rest of her seemingly-happy life was actually miserable? Nah, the books are just incredibly inconsistent
I honestly love badgerfang. And that he’s this warrior giving people lives while also being baby sized Edit: it’s official. Moonkitti is only slightly taller than kittens. 13:03
I kinda see the Badgerfang thing as this: Badgerfang gets to Starclan. Officially in their ranks he's still only Badgerpaw. However, he gives the biggest, saddest kitten eyes begging for his warrior name and Starclan just can't say no to the baby.
I'd love to see a Talking on Littlecloud now that you've covered Badgerfang 👀 I know other kits survived the era of Brokenstar, but Littlecloud is the only one that really gets much characterization, and he ends up living a long, relatively interesting life.
He lived through so many interesting events. Brokenstar rule, Tigerstar rule, a Sol, being a very close friend of Blackstar, dying because of Rowanstar's bad leadership, being a warrior turned med cat because of cinderpelt, going to the lake, everything with Flametail. I swear they can make a super edition out of everything he's lived through 😭
I always thought Badgerfang had a cool design quite literally having the markings of a badger. He's also a good example of how you can use a simple or "bad" character (not to say Badgerfang is bad but still) to help bolster other characters which is good writing.
the whole "kits not aging in starclan" thing will always be upsetting to me. along with being horrible for the kits themselves, imagine being one of the kits' parents and constantly being reminded that your child never got the chance to grow up and live a full life. sounds like a pretty bad time if you ask me.
I know, right??? It makes my heart hurt to read scenes where there are tiny baby kits in starclan. I always thought every cat should at least get a full name once they’re in starclan, and the babies should get to grow up a little. ❤️❤️
Well yeah, but it’s kinda just how things are. You can’t age anymore if you’re dead. If they did, then they’d have this weird problem where all the dead elders are slowly aging more and more until they’re just a walking pile of dust.
Yea this was always sad to me, they are always kittens and way too young. They grow up, but it's only their minds that age, their spirit. It's kinda like children vampires where they never age, yet they seem old, despite how they look. I always wonder what about the ones who die being born, they are never mentioned really at all, only ones who were old enough to speak.
Can you talk about Lilyheart? She lost her mother and silbing at a young age and she was named after them. Plus she was a good adoptive and supportive mother to twigbranch and she's something of an underrated character!
I feel like the reasoning for Brokenstar's need to make babies into warriors is for two simple reasons Impatenice, and power. He wants as many warriors as fast as possible, not caring whether theyre big enough to cause real damage or whether or not they survive, as in his eyes (and this is all a guess mind you) the weakest die but the strongest survive, and stealing kits from other clans could work in his favor too actually, because on the off chance that these kits are stronger than his own clans kits then hey, more warriors for him right? And on the other hand they can be used as bargaining chips or just as hostages to make the clans do whatever they want since Crookedstar, Tallstar, and Bluestar wouldnt just let their own kits get dogged like that
i feel like another advantage is a full grown warrior would likely hesitate to kill a child soldier (thats why it happens irl, the hesitation aspect) but a brainwashed/scared of disobeying child soldier is not likely to hesitate to kill and just do as they're told, and like you said, strongest survive and bargaining chips.
Badgerpaw and Flintfang are one of like three mentor/apprentice dynamics that I can think of that actually feels organic, and like they really care about each other. Frankly I think it should be more common in the books for apprentices to have names alluding to their mentors, or, you know, any level of emotional attachment to their mentors at all. Mentors should effect their apprentices lives way more then they do in the books, but the authors never seem to wanna acknowledge that.
In all fairness, I don’t think Brokenstar was ever meant to be overly logical or some evil genius. Man was batshit crazy and nothing more, and he held that title wonderfully. Tigerstar was the big planner, while Brokenstar was more “because I said so lmao L+ratio”.
As the #1 Badgerfang Fan I am very pleased thank you Lord Moon All things aside, YES!! His situation is extremely weird and inconsistent, even coming from me! Why is Badgerfang one of, if not the only, cat to get a warrior name in StarClan, but NOT grow up? It would never make sense to me. Perhaps in a dying ceremony given by their LEADER, sure. But Badgerfang and the Smallstar trio will always perplex me a little bit. I don’t really overthink the whole scenario though. He’s honestly just a sweet boy who wants to be a loyal noble warrior and he tries to act so serious when he’s just a goofy little guy and comes out all cute instead
ngl i would love a breakdown of the (major) villains of warrior cats and just how..... dumb they are. and like i dont mind dumb villains, but so many of their plans/motivations makes no sense. like is brokenstar so caught up in himself he is intentionally killing shadowclan off cuz he hates his clan that much due to his rough childhood? and they had chabces to retcon his behavior more, like i could believe if they later said "oh brokenstar was purposely getting cats in shadowclan killed cuz he wanted his clan destroyed yada yada" but no they just make him, somehow, even more confusing.
I agree, I'd love to see that! And even Tigerstar, he wants all four clans to never mingle with each other to make babies (which would fix a lot of the inbreeding problems if he allowed it) yet also wants them all to be together under one Clan? Like, he knows he can't micro manage every cat's emotions and watch like 50+ cats to make sure they're not mating with someone 'outside' the Clan despite the fact they're all one Clan so it wouldn't be breaking rules. The fact he links blood to loyalty also just means he'd be killing cats not for actions but for something beyond their control, which no one ever calls him out on which is so confusing. How does he expect TigerClan to keep going if they can't mingle or keep loyal if he's killing his own warriors for the littlest transgression? Pretty much every villain in Warrior Cats are moronic and have no actual reasonable purpose, they act like 80s cartoon villains.
Honestly I think I would like a Lizardstripe talking video! She started off as a warrior but then got pregnant with kits, even though she apparently never wanted to be a mother. Afterwards she then adopted Brokenkit.
I haven't read the books in ages, but I remember one scene where Brokenkit tells Yellowfang that Lizardstripe thinks he's stealing milk from her kits, and when Yellowfang, shocked, tells him that that isn't true, he says "Yes, it is! I heard her say it!" :(
I agree with the Kittens in Starclan rant. If I were to write some Starclan lore I'd say that Starclan gives the choice to a kitten if they want to grow up or not (and thus also giving them the choice to have a warrior / med cat name or not depending on what they were being trained to be). I love Badgerfang and I just wish more kittens got to choose if they wanted a warrior name. I also wish Starclan didn't suddenly cure disabilities when a disabled cat dies. Like I hate that Jayfeather can see in Starclan, and I hate that Snowkit was probably "cured" of his deafness. Okay that's another conversation I'll stop talking. Love your videos!
Maybe the disability thing is because of the disability effecting only their body and not their actual spirit, that's the only explanation I can come up with.
@@dusktheowlgryphon I think Deadfoot still has his disability (twisted paw) in Starclan and so does Crookedstar, so idk about that. Maybe it only applies to certain characters or something.
YESS NEW MOONKITTI VIDEO I really hope the next mini talk could be Whitestorm cause he literally had a bigger role than lionheart, yet lionheart gets more Screentime than him (if he even gets mentioned or shown at ALL after his death)
The idea of a starclan kitten being abuse by their parent forever is sad, but knowing how toxic Warrior Cats relationships can be I feel like its a high possibility .
6:09 Maybe they suffocated Mosspaw? With them being similar sizes due to still being babies and still fluffier due to not growing fully into their limbs, the two kittens could have tried to tackle and hold down Mosspaw, and his squeals could have been his gasps for air that they didn’t realize was more dire than just a ‘get off me!’
I think brokenstar was doing some darwinism shit (that's how I saw it). like kill off any kits that *couldn't* keep up in battle and the survivors are worthy enough and by enough time all kids will just be fit enough to survive battle long enough. Also... bad people aren't logical, like at all. It's all about control, Scourage controlling families and stripping any source of loyalty not to him. Brokenstar blaming dead kits on Yellowfang. Again just more control. It's not logical at all, it's just evil.
I think we should start asking the Erin's to give the kits and apprentices in Starclan warrior names. I feel like Mosskit's would be Mosspatch, because of the gray spots on her fur. Snowkit's would be Snowcloud, 'cause it's cute! Swiftpaw would be Swiftfoot, because he's fast (though I think if given if the choice he'd pick the name Swiftclaw.) And of course Shrewpaw would be Shrewheart, because he's a good boy! I honestly could go on but I think I should stop here.
@@_lexi Okay! I think Seedpaw would be Seedfur, after her father. Mapleshade's kits would be Larchwing, Patchtail, and Petalshine. And I think that Molepaw's would be Molepelt.
I’m a Swiftstep fan personally(have a few AUs where he makes it and that’s the name I picked) but I love picking names for characters who never got them. Ravenpaw should have been Ravenflight, too.
For the "eternal baby" issue in my warrior cat ocs, I just say that Starclan lets them choose if they want to grow up in Starclan or not. One of my ocs has stillborn kittens, who choose to grow into maybe their 2 month old size and then wait for her to join them so she can spend time with them as a family.
What bothered me about the attack on WindClan, especially from Badgerfang’s perspective, is that he was still a kit. Surely the WindClan cats would’ve known he was a kit, heck FIREPAW was able to tell that a ShadowClan “apprentice” was still a kit and managed to avoid both fighting and killing the young kit. Why didn’t the WindClan Warriors see the difference with Badgerpaw, especially with kits constantly being described as fluffier and having “kit fur”, AKA, ultra-fluff?
I always took it as them not even considering that they were kits, that it would be ridiculous to even consider. That no leader would be heinous enough to send babies to war, it would be breaking the code.
@@DragonemperessThat and also the fact that Windclan were fighting for their lives. Brokenstar always had the intent of driving them from the forest. Shadowclan was fighting to kill, I don't blame a windclan cat there for accidentally killing a kit when it's a life or death situation
I’d love to see you talk about Sparkpelt. I have no idea why the new arc is trying to retcon her as being an absent mother even though as you said in your video she only spent a month or two grieving for her mate and child.
brokenstar doesnt make much sense but lbr what fucking windclan warrior saw a tiny 3 month old kitten and went 'yeah alright' and murdered that thang LMAO.
I think it's way way more likely that in the heat in battle there was to much movement for them to look closely enough to notice that. probably badger tried to jump an enemy, enemy cat slashes to get him off, then runs off to fight the next shadowclan cat without giving it a second thought or even glancing back.
@@fauxclaws According to Code of the Clans*, the warrior sprang towards Badgerpaw, claws unsheathed, and supposedly pinned him down. The book suggests his death was not necessarily related to wounds, but probably head trauma/injury. I suppose the warrior could've been blinded by fear and anger, though. Possibly pinning the kit down because of shock from realising how young he is? *Blackstar's Reckoning doesn't seem to say how the attack went and isn't as specific about how he probably died and I am not about to search the other thick books haha. CotC has the bonus of naming the chapters.
This video made me remember how BRUTAL Yellowfang's Secret was. It's been YEARS since I've read it and couldn't tell you much of what happened..I think little me blocked it out cause it was so traumatizing😭
For Ashheart, I think those are the ones who died from Carrionplace disease since Runningnose was said to have tended to Nightstar so much that he allowed a kit to die at its mother's belly. Lavenderkit too. Edit: confirmed on the wiki, they were created by Su Susanne for that purpose
I feel like a cool mini-talking video would be about naming cats after dead cats, how confusing it can be, and why they can't just use new names when there are so many creative prefixes for warrior cats that are possible. We could have so many cool named warriors, and yet we get so many names like sorrelstripe, and hollytuft, and honeyfur. MAKE IT STOP ERIN HUNTER
today something from Starclan happened Warrior cats got translated to *my own language,* Bulgarian. And they have a book on Storytell, almost full The Prophecies Begin. Moonkitty, THANK YOU WITHOUT YOUR AND MANY OTHER' HELP THIS SERIOUS WOULDN'T HAVE SPREAD ACROSS EUROPE!! I began my journey back when Sss was making their animations, then I started reading in 2018 back in 8th grade on the spring English classes, it's been 6 years. For just six years, this series HAS FINALLY REACHED BULGARIA! I hope they start making prints as well AND sell the English versions as well Moonkitty and et al, you might have just done the biggest honor as contentmakers - I cannot wait to see other fans from here to talk about the series
I've had head cannons about littlestar and their trio, maybe starclan showed them how they WOULD have been as adults instead of actually aging them up in starclan still not great, but it kinda helps with the "well you aged up littlekit/star why not badgerfang or mosskit??" Also explains how he got the name "LittleSTAR" when he never actually had a life to give to starclan for his naming ceremony Because starclan is greedy and takes lives before granting more even tho it makes no sense 🤣 thanks firestars quest
Regarding Smallstar, he didn’t just age in StarClan, he outright grew up entirely in one day. Something to note is that they’re said to be the cats that “would have been”, which to me implies that they are not, that they don’t actually exist, just being apparitions from StarClan.
I’d love to see a Breezepelt Mini-Talking! He’s such an interesting character imo, a horrible father, siblings in a different clan that have literal superpowers, and he stole Lionblaze’s girl. I love him so much, I hope to see this in the future!
I always interpreted Brokenstar’s actions towards kits in the clans as a sort of “ this happened to me, therefore I’m going to take it out on you. “ This is something that happens in real life with actual abusers. It is completely illogical, but the feeling of punishing others for something that happened to you-either out of jealousy or something else-is something that can happen. Brokenstar was raised by an abusive foster mother, and killed his own father. While this idea is just a headcanon, it gives some kind of method to his madness. Least in my opinion.
Personally I always saw Brokenstar’s anger pushing him to do these injustice things. Sending in kits of these cats who treated him like dirt as a kit and even chasing elders out who treated him like garbage when they were still warriors too. It’s an interesting parallel. Yellowfang and even Crookedstar were all treated terribly but in the end they prove those things happening to them doesn’t mean they need revenge. I know that’s not the real reason though. They just have to make villains look worse than the heroes, like way worse to make a “threat”. It’s exhausting.
I’ve always understood that scene (where yellowfang finds the dead kits and thinks it was a fox) was Brokenstar covered his scent with fox dung so that it seemed like a fox killed them (if that makes sense)
Aside from the three that was in the code of the clans, I had thought that perhaps the cats existed in Starclan in the state they were most remembered by. When it comes to Badgerfang, it was his mentor that sealed his fate as a warrior, his mentor that cared about him and felt terrible for what had happened. And while the mother would have remembered him as a kit, she wasn't with him at the end, and Badgerfang believed he would be a warrior enough that it happened. In which case, the perception of living cat's might have an effect on the way the kits are presented in Starclan. It certainly does have an effect on the cats that fade away once they're forgotten. The code of the clans however...I guess we could say that those three appeared as they did only because an example needed to be made. Perhaps the one time that the rules could be bent.
We should really get a talking video about brightheart. She is a more major background character and has a very inspiration story of overcoming her injuries with the dog pack and learning how to still be a warrior, although the authors were unfair to her when they never gave her another apprentice after jaypaw. And she has a cute, pretty much entirely healthy relationship with cloudtail (ignoring the whole daisy thing) not to mention SHE HAS A MUG.
I know this video is over 3 months old at this point so you probably won't see this comment BUT I would love a talking video about Lionheart. Maybe this is the first-arc nostalgia coming into play, but I've always really liked him!
Brokenstar: we dont have warriors, train babies and send them out to get ripped apart in battle Also brokenstar: Hmm why dont we have kits? Lets kidnap more babies from another cult!
Also, the 3 kits that were shown as adults in starclan, i always assumed it wasn't actually that they grew up, but just starclan showing what they WOULD have become had they lived.
This video was amazing I feel bad for badgerfang. Could to talk about bluestar next time? She has a interesting life and she is also my favourite character
My vote is Half Moon from dawn of the clans, she has always been an interesting character to me, she led the cats up to the mountains, then when some of the mountain cats came to the original territories that was the future of the clans! I think she is very interesting and I would love to see her, that is if you haven’t talked about her already ❤ love your videos!
I'm legit convinced that Brokenstar decided that since he didn't have a good childhood & always wanted to get right into training to escape his foster mother, NO ONE can have good childhoods with him in charge. XD;
Unfortunately, we have to use our imagination to fill in the gaps left by poor writing but hey, at least it's fun lol. In my headcanon, cats stay the same age in StarClan that they died at, but any conditions that they had before dying that caused them suffering are "healed" there. That's why Bluestar seemed younger in StarClan than Yellowfang which someone in another comment mentioned, Bluestar was suffering mentally when she died so she "reverts" to a previous state where she was happier in StarClan, but Yellowfang died happy so the only thing that changes is maybe her fur is neater and she seems overall healthier and more energetic. This also means that disabled warriors who were at peace with their disability when they died stay disabled in StarClan, but obviously the authors didn't choose that for some disabled characters (like Briarlight regaining the use of her back legs). As for kits, they stay kits physically for the aforementioned reasons, but they can become wiser over the moons, which is why Fluttering Bird seems wise when she talks to Clear Sky and Grey Wing because she's technically the same age as them and has been learning alongside them, albeit in StarClan.
We expected that our youngest cat Elvis was going to be smaller than the average cat because he hardly grew for about 6 or 7 months 😂😂. When we brought him home at about 4 or 5 weeks (his mom was very sick and not able to care for them anymore.) He was tiny. He also didn't meow, he squeaks. Back then he sounded like a mouse and looked like one too. We thought our second oldest would eat him because of this 😅
I feel like Badgerfang was able to end up with his warrior name in Starclan due to the manner of his death, and the inherent cruelty (on the part of Brokenstar) of it; what warrior ancestor could deny a warrior name to an apprentice who is using their last moments to request it of their mentor? Even if the kit couldn't realize how awful his short life was (for it was all he knew, he had no prior experiences to compare it to), could Starclan not grant this one mercy as the one act of goodness for an apprentice too young to comprehend the tragedy of his (too short) life as a warrior cat? Also the fact that he voiced his thoughts to his mentor and that Flintfang accepted it and reassured Badgerpaw is probably what made Starclan do it in the end, using the reasons I mentioned above as their reasoning for it. Because really, what's Starclan gonna do? Tell this kit who just died horribly "nah even though you were killed you still don't get a warrior name because you didn't have a warrior ceremony and just telling your mentor the name you want as you die doesn't count" just sounds bad (not like Starclan's unfamiliar with making bad decisions, but hey, they can be reasonable. Not very often, but they can be. We can just say this is one of those times.) I also thought that when Smallstar/Wolfheart/Runningstorm faded that they faded back to the Starclan of their universe or some shiza like that; like they came from some alternate universe/timeline where they didn't die as kits and they went back to that Starclan. 😂
I've requested Heatherstar a couple times now, and I still think she'd be a pretty good candidate for a talking/mini talking video. She's most prominent in Tallstar's Revenge I believe, and I've always had a bit of a dislike for her. At the beginning of the story she's obviously incredibly biased towards moor runners, having been one herself and also having a moor runner deputy who seems to have the same feelings as her. Most importantly, she breaks up the age old traditions of having moor runners and tunnelers as separate roles-- which I find pretty odd, since it's because someone died in the tunnels, but... we've heard of people dying in the tunnels before, and this was CERTAINLY much less disastrous than past cave-ins. If it was for a different reason in the books, like not having enough tunnelers, that was HEATHERSTAR'S fault for not making many kits tunneler apprentices. For crying out loud, she makes Tallstar a moor runner apprentice even though both his parents were tunnelers and wanted him to be one. This is mostly for Tallstar's sake, but the fact still remains she's obviously biased. But, that's just my opinion, and I'd like to see yours explored in a video. (also, sorry If this was broken up weird-- I didn't want it to just be a wall of text.)
Can u talk about Sandstorm? She’s one of my favorites because she was one of the few who didn’t welcome fire star (of course that changed) and I think that made the book more interesting! Usually she’s just seen as firestars mate but I think she has son much potential. Maybe she could replace yellow fang as the prophecy giver. I love ur vids! ❤❤❤ P.S my username is floofy lately it’s been glitching s
I like to think the whole situation with the three kits growing up suddenly isn’t actually what they look like, just a weird vision/illusion of sorts. Correct me if anything specifically contradicts this, though!
insightful stuff as always! i would be interested in seeing a video on scenes/characters/plot points from the books you thought were well written-there’s a lot of mistakes and poor writing to dissect in the main series, but i want to hear about some of the good bits of writing that continue to draw readers to the series!
I headcanon that a cat can choose their starclan form. So maybe Swiftpaw doesn't take a warriors name since he didn't earn it in his life, but Badgerfang did since it was what he wanted.
"He only exists to make people sad." Maybe, but in my opinion his death was the saddest in the whole series maybe only second to Needletail or Stonefur. So yeah, if that was their intention, it sure worked haha.
I assumed the 3 kits who drowned were shown in a dream to be leader ect ect to tell the clans “this couldve happened if you didnt let them die. That one couldve been a great leader” and not that they just magic their way into adults
If I rewrote warriors I’d love to do a fun dichotomy with Tigerstar as the competent scheming evil leader and brokenstar as the petulant manchild cringefail evil leader. Sending all your kits into battle to die doesn’t make sense logistically at ALL but I like to think he’s just a predatory creep who gets some sick satisfaction out of watching children fight. His unresolved childhood trauma and far too doting father makes the perfect backstory for a villain who’s really just a big spoiled kid who treats his subjects as playthings.
My Theory is that all kits/apprentices that go to starclan have the CHOICE to grow up, but most of them choose not to... for some unknown reason. (Badgerfang is a special case, he wanted his name, but not to grow up)
In my au I have dead kittens still grow a bit when they are super young Their potential of them is enough for what ever spiritual mystic stuff to let them grow so they are comfortable It happens if they physical change or not tbh, but when physical changes aren't seen it's cause they grew mentally A good number of kittens get reincarnated if there's a living relative having kits but if there's no relative, the kitten grow wise and can participate in meetings and stuff It takes time for the newly dead to learn that cause a cat is a little kitten, it doesn't mean they are mentally a kitten
maybe kits in starclan are raised by their dead parents (who remain the age they where happiest as) and they only age as the parents treat them to be or after earning certain spiritual exp, like some kind of Pokitmon? which is why some kits just never grow, either their parents aren't ready to let them grow up yet in the afterlife after spending their [the parents] remaining lifetime without the kits, and starclan lets it happen because they likely have an eternity for it to happen or for the rest of the kits, they're just not ready themselves to grow up. (like Peter Pan syndrome but.. for dead babies lol.. which would actually be fitting considering the original story of peter pan)
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My headcanon is that Starclan doesn't usually let apprentices choose their own warrior names but Flintfang got Badgerpaw's hopes up and they were put on the spot.
I love how incompetent this cat religion is. I live for it. This is exactly what is believable for StarClan.
You can even say.. they were badgered into it
@@youknowwhatelseisbig484in any other series, i might question the validity of this sort of backstory spurring a character into evil. in warriors, it just makes sense /joke
@@youknowwhatelseisbig484I don’t think he’d be evil in the afterlife. I do think, if he had lived, he would be one of Brokenstar’s strongest allies, even moreso than Blackfoot.
Crowfeather exists
Brokenstar: **kills all the kittens**
Also Brokenstar: wait how did we run out of kittens?
So true.
You'd think that if they want more they might just steal and if they do not want clans involved I dont think anything stopped him from stealing from rogues or loners and blaming on another clan to cause even more trouble,come to think of it.
Brokenstar forgets alot, don't worry about it. 👍
Wait, we should actually worry though...
Brokenstar: to fix our kit shortage we will steal from thunderclan
Queen: we could stop appreciatin-
Brokenstar: STEAL KITS IT IS
@@Luna_moon_1127 Spottedleaf: Not on my watch.
Also Spottedleaf: *Dies*
They did go to steal more. Thats why ThunderClan was attacked. @@JohannahWaves
Brokenstar William Aftoned some children, and then he proceeded to be confused as to why they no longer had any more children. 10/10
Warrior cats HATE feeding elders and are always just looking for an excuse to let them starve. :(
I HATE elders
IKR they treat it like an annoying chore :(
I always didnt like how elders were portrayed, they always just sat there doing nothing but complaining. And becoming an elder was treated like a demotion. I think it would make more sense for them to be advisors who were very respected since they have a lot of wisdom, helping the leader and other cats make decisions instead of laying around just being useless
@@sneedcat88I know. I have no idea why they’re all grouchy, half of them chose to retire on their own, so theirs no reason they can complain about not being out in the forest. I really HATE how they write elders.
i hate how elder care is always an "apprentice task", and is used as a punishment. like damn, i'd be grumpy too if the only people caring for me in my old age, after years of hard work and service, were angry teenagers
I think Flintfang's characterization between the Warrior Code and Badgerpaw's safety is super interesting as a character flaw. I would love to have a more major character struggle between blind loyalty and their love for someone close to them.
Yessss
Re: the kittens in StarClan bit. I always subscribed to the idea that cats appear in StarClan as they were happiest in life - which is why, for example, Bluestar appeared to grow younger, while someone like Yellowfang is generally still seen as grouchy and older? Because ThunderClan is where she WAS happiest. The three kits who drowned evidently had their life predetermined (although, in my opinion, it's kind of cyclic? They always would have died, they never would have reached those positions, but that WAS their destiny, theoretically), but most cats, like Snowkit or Mosskit, do not have set paths. Smallstar and his siblings had a "path" on which they could choose any point to ascend to StarClan from, just like any other fully grown warrior or medicine cat, but for the other kits who died, this path hadn't been set.
It's literally the only thing that makes a modicum of sense, to me.
I actually really like this idea it makes more sense.
So Briarlight was happier before her spine was broken and the rest of her seemingly-happy life was actually miserable?
Nah, the books are just incredibly inconsistent
@@deerlyqueery yeah not a perfect fix lmao
@@deerlyqueerythat one’s just on the writing being sliiiiiiiiiiightly ableist
@@deerlyqueerysee this doesn't count because the writers are ableist
I honestly love badgerfang. And that he’s this warrior giving people lives while also being baby sized
Edit: it’s official. Moonkitti is only slightly taller than kittens. 13:03
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I kinda see the Badgerfang thing as this:
Badgerfang gets to Starclan. Officially in their ranks he's still only Badgerpaw. However, he gives the biggest, saddest kitten eyes begging for his warrior name and Starclan just can't say no to the baby.
I'd love to see a Talking on Littlecloud now that you've covered Badgerfang 👀 I know other kits survived the era of Brokenstar, but Littlecloud is the only one that really gets much characterization, and he ends up living a long, relatively interesting life.
He lived through so many interesting events. Brokenstar rule, Tigerstar rule, a Sol, being a very close friend of Blackstar, dying because of Rowanstar's bad leadership, being a warrior turned med cat because of cinderpelt, going to the lake, everything with Flametail. I swear they can make a super edition out of everything he's lived through 😭
I always thought Badgerfang had a cool design quite literally having the markings of a badger. He's also a good example of how you can use a simple or "bad" character (not to say Badgerfang is bad but still) to help bolster other characters which is good writing.
I think it could be interpreted as Brokenstar had an awful kithood so he took out his hatred and aggression on all the kits he could.
That's what I was thinking.
the whole "kits not aging in starclan" thing will always be upsetting to me. along with being horrible for the kits themselves, imagine being one of the kits' parents and constantly being reminded that your child never got the chance to grow up and live a full life. sounds like a pretty bad time if you ask me.
I know, right??? It makes my heart hurt to read scenes where there are tiny baby kits in starclan. I always thought every cat should at least get a full name once they’re in starclan, and the babies should get to grow up a little. ❤️❤️
Well yeah, but it’s kinda just how things are. You can’t age anymore if you’re dead. If they did, then they’d have this weird problem where all the dead elders are slowly aging more and more until they’re just a walking pile of dust.
@@chickennuggetpawLmao walking piles of dust
Yea this was always sad to me, they are always kittens and way too young. They grow up, but it's only their minds that age, their spirit. It's kinda like children vampires where they never age, yet they seem old, despite how they look. I always wonder what about the ones who die being born, they are never mentioned really at all, only ones who were old enough to speak.
But elders appear younger and some disabilities go away@@chickennuggetpaw
Ocelot is small. Like his mom. Moonkitti. Moonkitti is the mom.
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immediately after you said mosspaw died from a broken neck, I got a nintendo switch ad that started with the snap sound. insane timing
Can you talk about Lilyheart? She lost her mother and silbing at a young age and she was named after them. Plus she was a good adoptive and supportive mother to twigbranch and she's something of an underrated character!
Lilyheart deserves the world. Twigbranch and Nightheart were so lucky to have her
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I feel like the reasoning for Brokenstar's need to make babies into warriors is for two simple reasons
Impatenice, and power.
He wants as many warriors as fast as possible, not caring whether theyre big enough to cause real damage or whether or not they survive, as in his eyes (and this is all a guess mind you) the weakest die but the strongest survive, and stealing kits from other clans could work in his favor too actually, because on the off chance that these kits are stronger than his own clans kits then hey, more warriors for him right? And on the other hand they can be used as bargaining chips or just as hostages to make the clans do whatever they want since Crookedstar, Tallstar, and Bluestar wouldnt just let their own kits get dogged like that
yes!!!!
i feel like another advantage is a full grown warrior would likely hesitate to kill a child soldier (thats why it happens irl, the hesitation aspect) but a brainwashed/scared of disobeying child soldier is not likely to hesitate to kill and just do as they're told, and like you said, strongest survive and bargaining chips.
Badgerpaw and Flintfang are one of like three mentor/apprentice dynamics that I can think of that actually feels organic, and like they really care about each other. Frankly I think it should be more common in the books for apprentices to have names alluding to their mentors, or, you know, any level of emotional attachment to their mentors at all. Mentors should effect their apprentices lives way more then they do in the books, but the authors never seem to wanna acknowledge that.
In all fairness, I don’t think Brokenstar was ever meant to be overly logical or some evil genius. Man was batshit crazy and nothing more, and he held that title wonderfully. Tigerstar was the big planner, while Brokenstar was more “because I said so lmao L+ratio”.
As the #1 Badgerfang Fan I am very pleased thank you Lord Moon
All things aside, YES!! His situation is extremely weird and inconsistent, even coming from me! Why is Badgerfang one of, if not the only, cat to get a warrior name in StarClan, but NOT grow up? It would never make sense to me. Perhaps in a dying ceremony given by their LEADER, sure. But Badgerfang and the Smallstar trio will always perplex me a little bit.
I don’t really overthink the whole scenario though. He’s honestly just a sweet boy who wants to be a loyal noble warrior and he tries to act so serious when he’s just a goofy little guy and comes out all cute instead
ngl i would love a breakdown of the (major) villains of warrior cats and just how..... dumb they are. and like i dont mind dumb villains, but so many of their plans/motivations makes no sense. like is brokenstar so caught up in himself he is intentionally killing shadowclan off cuz he hates his clan that much due to his rough childhood? and they had chabces to retcon his behavior more, like i could believe if they later said "oh brokenstar was purposely getting cats in shadowclan killed cuz he wanted his clan destroyed yada yada" but no they just make him, somehow, even more confusing.
I agree, I'd love to see that! And even Tigerstar, he wants all four clans to never mingle with each other to make babies (which would fix a lot of the inbreeding problems if he allowed it) yet also wants them all to be together under one Clan? Like, he knows he can't micro manage every cat's emotions and watch like 50+ cats to make sure they're not mating with someone 'outside' the Clan despite the fact they're all one Clan so it wouldn't be breaking rules. The fact he links blood to loyalty also just means he'd be killing cats not for actions but for something beyond their control, which no one ever calls him out on which is so confusing. How does he expect TigerClan to keep going if they can't mingle or keep loyal if he's killing his own warriors for the littlest transgression? Pretty much every villain in Warrior Cats are moronic and have no actual reasonable purpose, they act like 80s cartoon villains.
I think Brokenstar just likes to cause suffering. His actions are illogical because he's not guided by a clear goal.
i don't care that he only exists to make the reader sad, it works. i cry every time i re-read his death
Honestly I think I would like a Lizardstripe talking video! She started off as a warrior but then got pregnant with kits, even though she apparently never wanted to be a mother. Afterwards she then adopted Brokenkit.
I haven't read the books in ages, but I remember one scene where Brokenkit tells Yellowfang that Lizardstripe thinks he's stealing milk from her kits, and when Yellowfang, shocked, tells him that that isn't true, he says "Yes, it is! I heard her say it!" :(
I agree with the Kittens in Starclan rant. If I were to write some Starclan lore I'd say that Starclan gives the choice to a kitten if they want to grow up or not (and thus also giving them the choice to have a warrior / med cat name or not depending on what they were being trained to be).
I love Badgerfang and I just wish more kittens got to choose if they wanted a warrior name. I also wish Starclan didn't suddenly cure disabilities when a disabled cat dies. Like I hate that Jayfeather can see in Starclan, and I hate that Snowkit was probably "cured" of his deafness. Okay that's another conversation I'll stop talking. Love your videos!
New headcanon: cats who die as kits/apprentices can choose to grow up, and most just choose not to
@@hollythecat410I like to think that a lot of them wait for their parents or friends to join them in StarClan before they choose to grow up :)
Maybe the disability thing is because of the disability effecting only their body and not their actual spirit, that's the only explanation I can come up with.
@@dusktheowlgryphon I think Deadfoot still has his disability (twisted paw) in Starclan and so does Crookedstar, so idk about that. Maybe it only applies to certain characters or something.
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I really hope the next mini talk could be Whitestorm cause he literally had a bigger role than lionheart, yet lionheart gets more Screentime than him (if he even gets mentioned or shown at ALL after his death)
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Badgerfang is the only death that made me brutally sob LMFAO-
The idea of a starclan kitten being abuse by their parent forever is sad, but knowing how toxic Warrior Cats relationships can be I feel like its a high possibility .
6:09 Maybe they suffocated Mosspaw? With them being similar sizes due to still being babies and still fluffier due to not growing fully into their limbs, the two kittens could have tried to tackle and hold down Mosspaw, and his squeals could have been his gasps for air that they didn’t realize was more dire than just a ‘get off me!’
the context doesn't support this, it was implied to be an aimed attack move
His neck was snapped
To me I feel like Brokenstar taking the kits to fight a fox might as well be him killing them himself because he’s responsible for it
Starclan: Oh boy! Look at all these dead kittens! Too bad they won't grow up ever except when it's necessary for the plot!
0:06 he is also a character in yellowfang’s secret yes, he’s not a character for a lot of pages, but he is in the book
Badgerfang looks so cute, I love him. ❤
We’ve got our little Badgerboy now! Poor little baby, he got KO’d to teach ShadowClan and the readers a lesson
I think brokenstar was doing some darwinism shit (that's how I saw it). like kill off any kits that *couldn't* keep up in battle and the survivors are worthy enough and by enough time all kids will just be fit enough to survive battle long enough.
Also... bad people aren't logical, like at all. It's all about control, Scourage controlling families and stripping any source of loyalty not to him. Brokenstar blaming dead kits on Yellowfang. Again just more control. It's not logical at all, it's just evil.
I think we should start asking the Erin's to give the kits and apprentices in Starclan warrior names. I feel like Mosskit's would be Mosspatch, because of the gray spots on her fur. Snowkit's would be Snowcloud, 'cause it's cute! Swiftpaw would be Swiftfoot, because he's fast (though I think if given if the choice he'd pick the name Swiftclaw.) And of course Shrewpaw would be Shrewheart, because he's a good boy! I honestly could go on but I think I should stop here.
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@@_lexi Okay! I think Seedpaw would be Seedfur, after her father. Mapleshade's kits would be Larchwing, Patchtail, and Petalshine. And I think that Molepaw's would be Molepelt.
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I’m a Swiftstep fan personally(have a few AUs where he makes it and that’s the name I picked) but I love picking names for characters who never got them. Ravenpaw should have been Ravenflight, too.
For the "eternal baby" issue in my warrior cat ocs, I just say that Starclan lets them choose if they want to grow up in Starclan or not.
One of my ocs has stillborn kittens, who choose to grow into maybe their 2 month old size and then wait for her to join them so she can spend time with them as a family.
But.. how is a newborn making a choice like that?
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Maybe they briefly grant it wisdom/age it or they naturally wait for it to age until it can talk
Badgerfang is literally a mini sized warrior
What bothered me about the attack on WindClan, especially from Badgerfang’s perspective, is that he was still a kit. Surely the WindClan cats would’ve known he was a kit, heck FIREPAW was able to tell that a ShadowClan “apprentice” was still a kit and managed to avoid both fighting and killing the young kit. Why didn’t the WindClan Warriors see the difference with Badgerpaw, especially with kits constantly being described as fluffier and having “kit fur”, AKA, ultra-fluff?
I always took it as them not even considering that they were kits, that it would be ridiculous to even consider. That no leader would be heinous enough to send babies to war, it would be breaking the code.
@@DragonemperessThat and also the fact that Windclan were fighting for their lives. Brokenstar always had the intent of driving them from the forest. Shadowclan was fighting to kill, I don't blame a windclan cat there for accidentally killing a kit when it's a life or death situation
I’d love to see you talk about Sparkpelt. I have no idea why the new arc is trying to retcon her as being an absent mother even though as you said in your video she only spent a month or two grieving for her mate and child.
brokenstar doesnt make much sense but lbr what fucking windclan warrior saw a tiny 3 month old kitten and went 'yeah alright' and murdered that thang LMAO.
I think it's way way more likely that in the heat in battle there was to much movement for them to look closely enough to notice that. probably badger tried to jump an enemy, enemy cat slashes to get him off, then runs off to fight the next shadowclan cat without giving it a second thought or even glancing back.
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@@fauxclaws According to Code of the Clans*, the warrior sprang towards Badgerpaw, claws unsheathed, and supposedly pinned him down. The book suggests his death was not necessarily related to wounds, but probably head trauma/injury.
I suppose the warrior could've been blinded by fear and anger, though. Possibly pinning the kit down because of shock from realising how young he is?
*Blackstar's Reckoning doesn't seem to say how the attack went and isn't as specific about how he probably died and I am not about to search the other thick books haha. CotC has the bonus of naming the chapters.
This video made me remember how BRUTAL Yellowfang's Secret was. It's been YEARS since I've read it and couldn't tell you much of what happened..I think little me blocked it out cause it was so traumatizing😭
For Ashheart, I think those are the ones who died from Carrionplace disease since Runningnose was said to have tended to Nightstar so much that he allowed a kit to die at its mother's belly. Lavenderkit too.
Edit: confirmed on the wiki, they were created by Su Susanne for that purpose
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Baby.
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Yes, that is correct.
I feel like a cool mini-talking video would be about naming cats after dead cats, how confusing it can be, and why they can't just use new names when there are so many creative prefixes for warrior cats that are possible. We could have so many cool named warriors, and yet we get so many names like sorrelstripe, and hollytuft, and honeyfur. MAKE IT STOP ERIN HUNTER
today something from Starclan happened
Warrior cats got translated to *my own language,* Bulgarian. And they have a book on Storytell, almost full The Prophecies Begin.
Moonkitty, THANK YOU WITHOUT YOUR AND MANY OTHER' HELP THIS SERIOUS WOULDN'T HAVE SPREAD ACROSS EUROPE!!
I began my journey back when Sss was making their animations, then I started reading in 2018 back in 8th grade on the spring English classes, it's been 6 years. For just six years, this series HAS FINALLY REACHED BULGARIA! I hope they start making prints as well AND sell the English versions as well
Moonkitty and et al, you might have just done the biggest honor as contentmakers - I cannot wait to see other fans from here to talk about the series
I've had head cannons about littlestar and their trio, maybe starclan showed them how they WOULD have been as adults instead of actually aging them up in starclan
still not great, but it kinda helps with the "well you aged up littlekit/star why not badgerfang or mosskit??"
Also explains how he got the name "LittleSTAR" when he never actually had a life to give to starclan for his naming ceremony
Because starclan is greedy and takes lives before granting more even tho it makes no sense 🤣 thanks firestars quest
Regarding Smallstar, he didn’t just age in StarClan, he outright grew up entirely in one day.
Something to note is that they’re said to be the cats that “would have been”, which to me implies that they are not, that they don’t actually exist, just being apparitions from StarClan.
I’d love to see a Breezepelt Mini-Talking! He’s such an interesting character imo, a horrible father, siblings in a different clan that have literal superpowers, and he stole Lionblaze’s girl. I love him so much, I hope to see this in the future!
I always interpreted Brokenstar’s actions towards kits in the clans as a sort of “ this happened to me, therefore I’m going to take it out on you. “
This is something that happens in real life with actual abusers. It is completely illogical, but the feeling of punishing others for something that happened to you-either out of jealousy or something else-is something that can happen.
Brokenstar was raised by an abusive foster mother, and killed his own father. While this idea is just a headcanon, it gives some kind of method to his madness. Least in my opinion.
Personally I always saw Brokenstar’s anger pushing him to do these injustice things. Sending in kits of these cats who treated him like dirt as a kit and even chasing elders out who treated him like garbage when they were still warriors too. It’s an interesting parallel. Yellowfang and even Crookedstar were all treated terribly but in the end they prove those things happening to them doesn’t mean they need revenge. I know that’s not the real reason though. They just have to make villains look worse than the heroes, like way worse to make a “threat”. It’s exhausting.
I’ve always understood that scene (where yellowfang finds the dead kits and thinks it was a fox) was Brokenstar covered his scent with fox dung so that it seemed like a fox killed them (if that makes sense)
Aside from the three that was in the code of the clans, I had thought that perhaps the cats existed in Starclan in the state they were most remembered by. When it comes to Badgerfang, it was his mentor that sealed his fate as a warrior, his mentor that cared about him and felt terrible for what had happened. And while the mother would have remembered him as a kit, she wasn't with him at the end, and Badgerfang believed he would be a warrior enough that it happened. In which case, the perception of living cat's might have an effect on the way the kits are presented in Starclan. It certainly does have an effect on the cats that fade away once they're forgotten. The code of the clans however...I guess we could say that those three appeared as they did only because an example needed to be made. Perhaps the one time that the rules could be bent.
We should really get a talking video about brightheart. She is a more major background character and has a very inspiration story of overcoming her injuries with the dog pack and learning how to still be a warrior, although the authors were unfair to her when they never gave her another apprentice after jaypaw. And she has a cute, pretty much entirely healthy relationship with cloudtail (ignoring the whole daisy thing) not to mention SHE HAS A MUG.
I find it so bizarre how StarClan kits have the wisdom of an ancient entity. I think they should get to choose whether or not they grow up.
I can't believe I missed Badgerfang!!! He was always one of my favorite characters growing up. Poor baby :(
I am literally on my hands and knees BEGGING you to do Clear Sky
"They would blame the windclan warrior" me staring at the all the people who decide its mudclaw purely to make him look worse and to blame him
My hc is that Badgerfang just introduced himself with the name to other StarClan cats and nobody ever questioned it.
I know this video is over 3 months old at this point so you probably won't see this comment BUT I would love a talking video about Lionheart. Maybe this is the first-arc nostalgia coming into play, but I've always really liked him!
Bumble from dotc might be good for a mini talk. How she was treated by the books and characters is so messed up and sad
Brokenstar: we dont have warriors, train babies and send them out to get ripped apart in battle
Also brokenstar: Hmm why dont we have kits? Lets kidnap more babies from another cult!
oh my god the design for him is so cute
I never knew anything about Badgerfang, so this helps me understand >:D
thank you moon
Also, the 3 kits that were shown as adults in starclan, i always assumed it wasn't actually that they grew up, but just starclan showing what they WOULD have become had they lived.
This video was amazing I feel bad for badgerfang. Could to talk about bluestar next time? She has a interesting life and she is also my favourite character
i’m pretty sure she miiiiight be off the table for a mini talking? i can’t remember! correct me if i’m wrong!
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Your design for Badgerfang is so cute!
My vote is Half Moon from dawn of the clans, she has always been an interesting character to me, she led the cats up to the mountains, then when some of the mountain cats came to the original territories that was the future of the clans! I think she is very interesting and I would love to see her, that is if you haven’t talked about her already ❤ love your videos!
The authors are so good at gaslighting us :(
I'm legit convinced that Brokenstar decided that since he didn't have a good childhood & always wanted to get right into training to escape his foster mother, NO ONE can have good childhoods with him in charge. XD;
Unfortunately, we have to use our imagination to fill in the gaps left by poor writing but hey, at least it's fun lol. In my headcanon, cats stay the same age in StarClan that they died at, but any conditions that they had before dying that caused them suffering are "healed" there. That's why Bluestar seemed younger in StarClan than Yellowfang which someone in another comment mentioned, Bluestar was suffering mentally when she died so she "reverts" to a previous state where she was happier in StarClan, but Yellowfang died happy so the only thing that changes is maybe her fur is neater and she seems overall healthier and more energetic. This also means that disabled warriors who were at peace with their disability when they died stay disabled in StarClan, but obviously the authors didn't choose that for some disabled characters (like Briarlight regaining the use of her back legs). As for kits, they stay kits physically for the aforementioned reasons, but they can become wiser over the moons, which is why Fluttering Bird seems wise when she talks to Clear Sky and Grey Wing because she's technically the same age as them and has been learning alongside them, albeit in StarClan.
We expected that our youngest cat Elvis was going to be smaller than the average cat because he hardly grew for about 6 or 7 months 😂😂. When we brought him home at about 4 or 5 weeks (his mom was very sick and not able to care for them anymore.) He was tiny. He also didn't meow, he squeaks. Back then he sounded like a mouse and looked like one too. We thought our second oldest would eat him because of this 😅
I feel like Badgerfang was able to end up with his warrior name in Starclan due to the manner of his death, and the inherent cruelty (on the part of Brokenstar) of it; what warrior ancestor could deny a warrior name to an apprentice who is using their last moments to request it of their mentor? Even if the kit couldn't realize how awful his short life was (for it was all he knew, he had no prior experiences to compare it to), could Starclan not grant this one mercy as the one act of goodness for an apprentice too young to comprehend the tragedy of his (too short) life as a warrior cat?
Also the fact that he voiced his thoughts to his mentor and that Flintfang accepted it and reassured Badgerpaw is probably what made Starclan do it in the end, using the reasons I mentioned above as their reasoning for it. Because really, what's Starclan gonna do? Tell this kit who just died horribly "nah even though you were killed you still don't get a warrior name because you didn't have a warrior ceremony and just telling your mentor the name you want as you die doesn't count" just sounds bad (not like Starclan's unfamiliar with making bad decisions, but hey, they can be reasonable. Not very often, but they can be. We can just say this is one of those times.)
I also thought that when Smallstar/Wolfheart/Runningstorm faded that they faded back to the Starclan of their universe or some shiza like that; like they came from some alternate universe/timeline where they didn't die as kits and they went back to that Starclan. 😂
I've requested Heatherstar a couple times now, and I still think she'd be a pretty good candidate for a talking/mini talking video.
She's most prominent in Tallstar's Revenge I believe, and I've always had a bit of a dislike for her. At the beginning of the story she's obviously incredibly biased towards moor runners, having been one herself and also having a moor runner deputy who seems to have the same feelings as her.
Most importantly, she breaks up the age old traditions of having moor runners and tunnelers as separate roles-- which I find pretty odd, since it's because someone died in the tunnels, but... we've heard of people dying in the tunnels before, and this was CERTAINLY much less disastrous than past cave-ins. If it was for a different reason in the books, like not having enough tunnelers, that was HEATHERSTAR'S fault for not making many kits tunneler apprentices. For crying out loud, she makes Tallstar a moor runner apprentice even though both his parents were tunnelers and wanted him to be one. This is mostly for Tallstar's sake, but the fact still remains she's obviously biased.
But, that's just my opinion, and I'd like to see yours explored in a video. (also, sorry If this was broken up weird-- I didn't want it to just be a wall of text.)
Can u talk about Sandstorm? She’s one of my favorites because she was one of the few who didn’t welcome fire star (of course that changed) and I think that made the book more interesting! Usually she’s just seen as firestars mate but I think she has son much potential. Maybe she could replace yellow fang as the prophecy giver. I love ur vids! ❤❤❤
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I would love to see your thoughts on Tallshadow/Shadowstar, I like her a lot and think she isn't talked about enough.
Could you do a talking about tall star? I think he’s the best windclan leader so far.
I like to think the whole situation with the three kits growing up suddenly isn’t actually what they look like, just a weird vision/illusion of sorts. Correct me if anything specifically contradicts this, though!
Can you please do Needletail? She is so spunky and sassy and I love her!
Badgerfang's very limited existence makes me feel like he could have easily been one of Su Susann's missing kits
Su susann's suspicious van
I was so mad when I actually read Yellowfangs secret, the Fandom makes so much of Badgerfang. But he is literally there for 2 seconds.
Happy late birthday moon!!! Love your videos 😊
insightful stuff as always! i would be interested in seeing a video on scenes/characters/plot points from the books you thought were well written-there’s a lot of mistakes and poor writing to dissect in the main series, but i want to hear about some of the good bits of writing that continue to draw readers to the series!
I headcanon that a cat can choose their starclan form. So maybe Swiftpaw doesn't take a warriors name since he didn't earn it in his life, but Badgerfang did since it was what he wanted.
Amazing, I love the mask. If I choose a random character it would be SquirrelFlight or JayFeather.
"He only exists to make people sad." Maybe, but in my opinion his death was the saddest in the whole series maybe only second to Needletail or Stonefur. So yeah, if that was their intention, it sure worked haha.
I love badgerfangs design
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I always assumed the 3 kits who drowned were only "adults" temporarily, in order to make a point.
I assumed the 3 kits who drowned were shown in a dream to be leader ect ect to tell the clans “this couldve happened if you didnt let them die. That one couldve been a great leader” and not that they just magic their way into adults
If I rewrote warriors I’d love to do a fun dichotomy with Tigerstar as the competent scheming evil leader and brokenstar as the petulant manchild cringefail evil leader. Sending all your kits into battle to die doesn’t make sense logistically at ALL but I like to think he’s just a predatory creep who gets some sick satisfaction out of watching children fight. His unresolved childhood trauma and far too doting father makes the perfect backstory for a villain who’s really just a big spoiled kid who treats his subjects as playthings.
I think it'd be super fun to see a video about feathertail
Video 7 of asking Moon for an "I spoil Bluestar's Prophecy" video
Ah yes, my favorite warrior cats trope, the Completely Irrational Lunatic Fascist Cat Dictator
My Theory is that all kits/apprentices that go to starclan have the CHOICE to grow up, but most of them choose not to... for some unknown reason. (Badgerfang is a special case, he wanted his name, but not to grow up)
I love how people are commenting when it hasn’t even been out long enough for them to finish the video XD
Hi
In my au I have dead kittens still grow a bit when they are super young
Their potential of them is enough for what ever spiritual mystic stuff to let them grow so they are comfortable
It happens if they physical change or not tbh, but when physical changes aren't seen it's cause they grew mentally
A good number of kittens get reincarnated if there's a living relative having kits but if there's no relative, the kitten grow wise and can participate in meetings and stuff
It takes time for the newly dead to learn that cause a cat is a little kitten, it doesn't mean they are mentally a kitten
Please do a video on spoiling bluestars prophecy! I would like to see how snowfur and other characters are designed!
I like Badgerfang.
maybe kits in starclan are raised by their dead parents (who remain the age they where happiest as) and they only age as the parents treat them to be or after earning certain spiritual exp, like some kind of Pokitmon?
which is why some kits just never grow, either their parents aren't ready to let them grow up yet in the afterlife after spending their [the parents] remaining lifetime without the kits, and starclan lets it happen because they likely have an eternity for it to happen
or for the rest of the kits, they're just not ready themselves to grow up. (like Peter Pan syndrome but.. for dead babies lol.. which would actually be fitting considering the original story of peter pan)
That also implies the terrifying question of a possible pregnant queen dying : does she stay prego forevo??? 😭