Update 6/3 - I bought another LXT 36v mower with batteries off of FB Marketplace for $200, that should last me a few more years while I hunt for a deal on an XGT mower.
I already own the 21" steel deck commercial Makita mower and its a beast, but its a bit heavy for fine edge work, getting around trees and bushes, etc. So I just picked up another Makita mower, the one you have here, the 18" XML03. It was $399 and comes with 4 LXT batteries. Seems like a no-brainer to me and there is no way I'm spending $800 on an XGT mower when I already have a bank of LXT batteries just waiting to be used, that aren't even close to the end of their cycle life yet. I've never had a problem with a Makita tool or battery, and I use my tools hard. I wouldn't ever consider using a plastic deck big box store brand like greenworks, ryobi, E-go, etc. And if you read the reviews of things like Toro and Dewalt, people seem to hate them. The only other brand that people rate highly is milwaukie, so that is the only other brand i would consider, but being in the makita ecosystem already, its an easy to choice to go with their commercial/metal deck mowers with brushless motors. no question. if you accumulate enough LXT batteries and store them at 50% charge, you could be mowing for life with one of these mowers, as i expect they'll last 20 years with proper maintenance.
I literally found the 40v commercial grade lawn mower on facebook marketplace for 180$ tool only. It was the most unbelievable thing i have ever bought with the 200 dollar track saw i bought the same week. But the 40v is no disappointment! That think does not struggle. But 700$ is insane
I got mine from the market place $450 brand new. I had a few Xgt batteries that I got as a gift from a previous purchase. The mower run great on thick grass but it will kill those 4.0s in about 10 to 15 minutes of constant use.
I understand the large amount of effort it would take to make 18 volt batteries physically fit. It would involve changing the lid & other tasks... But, totally disregarding the tasks of making them physically fit, how hard would the electrical tasks be to power an XGT mower with LXT Batteries? Are there sensors that may create problems? Might batteries become unbalanced? Would other problems arise? (Mechanical/physical stuff is easy for me, but I’m inexperienced with many electrical issues.) Why bother? People who have lots of 18v batteries might like more power from the 40v mower.
LXT mowers come in 2 flavours - Domestic and Commercial. The XML08 and XML09 are Commercial, while the rest are Domestic. At the moment, the XGT mowers released are Domestic.
@@serial_plotter8207 the 4 and 5 Amps will become very hot during use in a lawnmower. The 8 amp does not. Before charging the batteries will be temp checked and will firstly be cooled down. This cooling proces can take up more then 30 till 45 minutes before it start charging. Also in time there will be an adapter for 2 ltx batteries that can be used in a 40 volt ( in reality 36 volt) machine. The 40 volt machine must have the needed space to hold two lxt batteries at the same time ofcourse. Most likely the lawnmowers will do. Be aware that 40 volt is way to less power for lawnmowing. 60 volt or higher is better.
It was actually a good call, backwards compatibility would hurt them in the long run. Ever wondered why hikoki doesn't have larger 36v packs? Lxt mount and terminals wasn't sturdy enough for bigger packs and in general you don't gain much
Dude its not worth it, and honestly the xgt mower in real world heavy cutting grass environment i heard you get 40 minutes with 2 8ah batteries. That's over $1200 dollars for less then an hour of run time. The price is way off like ridiculously over priced for what you get. The sad part is Makitia made some of the nicest trimmer and blowers with their mm4 platform they just killed.
In the pictures I showed in the video, I was getting maybe 5min of run time for 2x 5ah, the job took 16x 5ah LXT batteries. I am leaning towards another LXT mower kit for $400.
Makita has really put their customers in a bad position. Either continue to invest in LXT products with the thought that they're investing in a dying system in the back of their mind, or pay more now and start going XGT and cut their losses now. Makita should really come out and explain the timeline here.
@@UltimateToolReviews I'm sure they'll still continue to support existing tools and even have a few new tools coming out but my gut feeling is that every year XGT will get the love and new offerings while LXT offerings will slowly fade away.
I have a Battery operated one, eats to much battery not worth it, they just last 2 or 3 years the litium, then you have to buy more batteries, as a homeowner you may use 3 times for month. Not for landscaping companies for sure. You can buy a self-propelled gas for cheaper price and is more powerful. Even a gas riding tractor cheaper than that just my opinion. But I understand battery one advantage is less noise and less fumes you breathe in.
Sell used batteries in good condition when warranty ends. Less than $100 to replace batteries with new every 3 years~. If you are able to use warranty, then it's even cheaper. $33 - (gas you woulda used) = a price im willing to pay per year for electric flexibility/convienence. Small price for no maintainance, lower emissions/weight, better storage, etc. If you use batteries till they die, then sure, $200+ for a battery or two would lose to gas. I don't use my phone until it doesn't work anymore. I sell it every 3-5 years and replace it. Like all my other battery operated items. And ofc you can't beat the power density of gasoline, but there are pros and cons for every situation.
Thanks for mentioning the "squeek" 👍 I'm in the UK and 2 months ago i bought the DLM460 which is similar to you'res and takes the two 18v batteries . 2nd time i used the mower i got the "squeek" when shutting off the power , i wasn't too worried but you're the first person that i've heard mention it .
Update 6/3 - I bought another LXT 36v mower with batteries off of FB Marketplace for $200, that should last me a few more years while I hunt for a deal on an XGT mower.
You could possibly convert to your own custom battery pack to over volt one of those lawn mowers For those times you need more power
I already own the 21" steel deck commercial Makita mower and its a beast, but its a bit heavy for fine edge work, getting around trees and bushes, etc. So I just picked up another Makita mower, the one you have here, the 18" XML03. It was $399 and comes with 4 LXT batteries. Seems like a no-brainer to me and there is no way I'm spending $800 on an XGT mower when I already have a bank of LXT batteries just waiting to be used, that aren't even close to the end of their cycle life yet. I've never had a problem with a Makita tool or battery, and I use my tools hard. I wouldn't ever consider using a plastic deck big box store brand like greenworks, ryobi, E-go, etc. And if you read the reviews of things like Toro and Dewalt, people seem to hate them. The only other brand that people rate highly is milwaukie, so that is the only other brand i would consider, but being in the makita ecosystem already, its an easy to choice to go with their commercial/metal deck mowers with brushless motors. no question. if you accumulate enough LXT batteries and store them at 50% charge, you could be mowing for life with one of these mowers, as i expect they'll last 20 years with proper maintenance.
I have the XGT with the 8amp 40v batteries, works well, had 1 issue, the rubber flap ripped off the bottom
The rubber flap ripped off my LXT mower as well!
@@UltimateToolReviews sounds like a design flaw they should address
I literally found the 40v commercial grade lawn mower on facebook marketplace for 180$ tool only. It was the most unbelievable thing i have ever bought with the 200 dollar track saw i bought the same week. But the 40v is no disappointment! That think does not struggle. But 700$ is insane
That's a great deal! Also it's not $700 anymore, it's now $1000.
I got mine from the market place $450 brand new. I had a few Xgt batteries that I got as a gift from a previous purchase. The mower run great on thick grass but it will kill those 4.0s in about 10 to 15 minutes of constant use.
My other option is wait for a sale or used, that was a great find!
Where do you get the blades
I understand the large amount of effort it would take to make 18 volt batteries physically fit. It would involve changing the lid & other tasks... But, totally disregarding the tasks of making them physically fit, how hard would the electrical tasks be to power an XGT mower with LXT Batteries? Are there sensors that may create problems? Might batteries become unbalanced? Would other problems arise? (Mechanical/physical stuff is easy for me, but I’m inexperienced with many electrical issues.)
Why bother? People who have lots of 18v batteries might like more power from the 40v mower.
Does anyone know if the blades are interchangeable from the LXT and XGT?
LXT mowers come in 2 flavours - Domestic and Commercial. The XML08 and XML09 are Commercial, while the rest are Domestic. At the moment, the XGT mowers released are Domestic.
Get the XGT mower + batteries & be happy for the rest of your life - they r great.
You need 8 amp batteries. 5 amp batteries getting hot and die sooner. Also it needs to cool down first before charching. So it is a long wait.
Hello. Could you elaborate on the 5ah batteries issue ? Same goes for 4ah ? Thanks !
@@serial_plotter8207 the 4 and 5 Amps will become very hot during use in a lawnmower. The 8 amp does not. Before charging the batteries will be temp checked and will firstly be cooled down. This cooling proces can take up more then 30 till 45 minutes before it start charging. Also in time there will be an adapter for 2 ltx batteries that can be used in a 40 volt ( in reality 36 volt) machine. The 40 volt machine must have the needed space to hold two lxt batteries at the same time ofcourse. Most likely the lawnmowers will do.
Be aware that 40 volt is way to less power for lawnmowing. 60 volt or higher is better.
@@keesverhagen9227 okido thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I bought 5AH batteries following a super deal and will use them in a loawnmower
Too bad Makita didn't follow metabo/hikoki with their backwards compatible battery platform and even offers an AC adapter.
Don't remind me! Lol But I will say, Hikoki/Metabo HPT tools are very impressive.
It was actually a good call, backwards compatibility would hurt them in the long run. Ever wondered why hikoki doesn't have larger 36v packs? Lxt mount and terminals wasn't sturdy enough for bigger packs and in general you don't gain much
Check out the xml08pt mower kit with 4 5ah batteries for 699.00
Dude its not worth it, and honestly the xgt mower in real world heavy cutting grass environment i heard you get 40 minutes with 2 8ah batteries. That's over $1200 dollars for less then an hour of run time.
The price is way off like ridiculously over priced for what you get.
The sad part is Makitia made some of the nicest trimmer and blowers with their mm4 platform they just killed.
In the pictures I showed in the video, I was getting maybe 5min of run time for 2x 5ah, the job took 16x 5ah LXT batteries. I am leaning towards another LXT mower kit for $400.
@@UltimateToolReviews I agree with your stash of lxt batteries that's the way I would go.
Makita has really put their customers in a bad position. Either continue to invest in LXT products with the thought that they're investing in a dying system in the back of their mind, or pay more now and start going XGT and cut their losses now. Makita should really come out and explain the timeline here.
Makita has said the LXT line is still there main line, they expect XGT to take over 25% or less of there tools.
@@UltimateToolReviews I'm sure they'll still continue to support existing tools and even have a few new tools coming out but my gut feeling is that every year XGT will get the love and new offerings while LXT offerings will slowly fade away.
Yeah that xgt mower with 4ah packs doesn't make sense, nobody should buy it. Pick 8ah kit or nothing tbh
But for that price I could buy nearly 3x LXT mowers. Lol.
@@UltimateToolReviews I know yeah! You just have to decide if other xgt benefits are worth it or not :|
I have a Battery operated one, eats to much battery not worth it, they just last 2 or 3 years the litium, then you have to buy more batteries, as a homeowner you may use 3 times for month. Not for landscaping companies for sure. You can buy a self-propelled gas for cheaper price and is more powerful. Even a gas riding tractor cheaper than that just my opinion. But I understand battery one advantage is less noise and less fumes you breathe in.
Sell used batteries in good condition when warranty ends. Less than $100 to replace batteries with new every 3 years~.
If you are able to use warranty, then it's even cheaper. $33 - (gas you woulda used) = a price im willing to pay per year for electric flexibility/convienence. Small price for no maintainance, lower emissions/weight, better storage, etc.
If you use batteries till they die, then sure, $200+ for a battery or two would lose to gas. I don't use my phone until it doesn't work anymore. I sell it every 3-5 years and replace it. Like all my other battery operated items.
And ofc you can't beat the power density of gasoline, but there are pros and cons for every situation.
Thanks for mentioning the "squeek" 👍 I'm in the UK and 2 months ago i bought the DLM460 which is similar to you'res and takes the two 18v batteries . 2nd time i used the mower i got the "squeek" when shutting off the power , i wasn't too worried but you're the first person that i've heard mention it .
Xgt 1300$ now
Far too lightweight and flimsy wheels