Man you nailed it about people thinking we can fix pretty much any terrible vocal they send to us. Don't get me started. But honestly Joe, if you've got some ideas in your bag of tricks that can enhance a crappy vocal performance (beyond just the tuning and alignment) PLEASE make a video on it!
Speaking of vocal noieses you want to edit out, here is a great way to deal with breaths: Splice them out of the main vocal and drag them to their own track. Remove all breath noises from any adlibs, dubs, etc. (On chorus (4 plus tracks) remove breaths from half, keep half the breaths and follow remaining steps). Turn the breath track down by approximatly 9 db from the main vocal and treat it the same as your main vox. It makes it significantly quiter while keeping a natural vocal sound. Works esspecially great for hip hop. For some music though it strips it of the vibe so be cautious.
Let me show you this great plugin for burps! Brings all the attack, resonance, depth, helping it sit 'just right' in the mix.... Not really, just found that example funny, and thought I'd play it up. Good stuff as always Joe!
The best advice I was ever given was “in the pocket time editing”. You go with your natural drum track and you edit the transient hits on or right after the Drum hits.
I agree with everything you said, except for the timing and tuning adjustments. If it's very obviously out of time or out of tune, then I would argue that you should redo it. But, if it's only a little bit out, I contest that it should be left alone, to preserve the human element of the track.
how did to hook up an outboard gear to your studio live? i have the old studio live 16 but it only have Mic->channel input->Aux out. for what i know i need input an output but i just having a hard time to find a way to connect my pre amp and compressor the mixer just have Mic->channel input->Aux out witch i just cant find a way! I am new on this and i really need your help. Thank you.
Since you produce your own music, do you ever mix in the same session or transfer files into a fresh one? Do you even mix while composing, or do you hold off to the very end, maybe only adjust levels and stereo image?
Guitar And Video Games I know I’m not Joe but thought I’d offer my own answer just for perspective... I compose my own music too and will often do a draft mix as I go to get it sounding roughly how I think it will sound in the end. This gives me an idea of how everything is meshing together and can often help in terms of if I need to add or subtract any instruments or vocals. But I still set aside a separate day dedicated to mixing too so I can focus only on that. Not sure of Joe’s approach but I do think it helps to do some balancing here and there 🙂
Geddy Lee burbs about 3/4 the way through the Rush song The Camera Eye. It's barely audible between verses, but you hear it then he says 'sorry, guys.' I'm glad they left that in the mix.
Damn, I just now realized after being subscribed for a few years that you're not Sflogicninja, aka David Earl. I thought when I first came across your vids that you were SFLN because he'd disappeared for a long time--just figured he'd started a new channel, completely forgetting what his real name is. I've always liked your content, regardless of the mixup on my part. Keep up the good work, thanks for all that you do Davi....I mean Joe :P
I use a lot of virtual instruments, and so I have plenty of room to adjust my volumes on them, but is there a certain volume or db range they should be in? I get hung up on what volume to bounce these mixer channels at in MIDI. I feel like if I am making the song and doing the mixing I should just gain stage and balance the track more or less in MIDI before bouncing mixer channels, and starting the mix phase that way. Is there a reason not to do that? Just confused mainly on what the right choice is
great video. next time you do one on mix prep please remind people to name their tracks properly. that is one of my pet peeves. Also, they should be sure to check the levels on the tracks so some sections of the track are not twice as loud as others (not taking about natural dynamics), and no automation is printed on the export.
Quick question Joe, I want to upgrade my AI mixer for the series III 24, I have a Faderport 8 also, My question is should I sell the Faderport 8 along with the AI mixer? I don't think I'm gonna need it, but I see that you still use the Faderport with your series III mixer/control surface, would it benefit me to keep it? Thanks
Hey, Joe. Quick question: If your plan for the song’s outro is to have it fade out, should you put fades at the same point on all the tracks before sending them to the mix engineer, or give him the full recordings and ask him to fade them out at the rate he feels is appropriate?
1. I've listened to hundreds of mixing/recording blah blah tutorials your music sounds the best mixing wise. 2. You're a freaking riot. Haha love your vids.
@@dee1380 studio one is everything pro tools is, plus everything it isn't with a simpler User Interface, and drastically lower cost. I would never reccomend any other DAW except for perhaps Harrison Mix bus as I have been hearing great things. As an all around unit though, nothing beats studio one.
Imho, most time should be spent on writing, arranging and recording songs, and least time on mixing and mastering them… Of course i'm not talking about restoration of old recordings and such, there you could spend months, its cool... But time is spent best on recording than mixing (imho). If recorded well the mixing will be a breeze… Yeah I'm a bit generalizing here, but thats what I believe as a home recorder/mixer anyway (none professional). In time you will learn all the technical stuff with mixing anyway...
Joe Gilder • Home Studio Corner fair enough. But from that attitude to claim Melodyne can't make a voice sound good is a far path to go. Just my opionion though. No disrespect.
@@HomeStudioCorner As someone who is trying to build a clientele (primarily for mixing, as I'm already in my own studio working on my own stuff constantly) I can't count how often people want this done for free and they get shocked when you charge additional fees for editing, aligning, etc.
Man you nailed it about people thinking we can fix pretty much any terrible vocal they send to us. Don't get me started. But honestly Joe, if you've got some ideas in your bag of tricks that can enhance a crappy vocal performance (beyond just the tuning and alignment) PLEASE make a video on it!
Speaking of vocal noieses you want to edit out, here is a great way to deal with breaths:
Splice them out of the main vocal and drag them to their own track. Remove all breath noises from any adlibs, dubs, etc. (On chorus (4 plus tracks) remove breaths from half, keep half the breaths and follow remaining steps).
Turn the breath track down by approximatly 9 db from the main vocal and treat it the same as your main vox. It makes it significantly quiter while keeping a natural vocal sound.
Works esspecially great for hip hop. For some music though it strips it of the vibe so be cautious.
Odin OfficialEmcee Very good tip! 👌
You are hilarious 😂😂 I love your humor. Thank you for this video, very helpful
Keep it going going my dude...."Put some REVERB on that burp"!!!!..>>>
Thanks, Joe, you've got really nice videos.
Excellent and practical Joe. Thank you.
Let me show you this great plugin for burps! Brings all the attack, resonance, depth, helping it sit 'just right' in the mix.... Not really, just found that example funny, and thought I'd play it up. Good stuff as always Joe!
What an amazing video!!! I needed this for my Mixing and Mastering projects!!! You are awesome!
The best advice I was ever given was “in the pocket time editing”. You go with your natural drum track and you edit the transient hits on or right after the Drum hits.
how come with the greeks btw?! nice one
I agree with everything you said, except for the timing and tuning adjustments. If it's very obviously out of time or out of tune, then I would argue that you should redo it. But, if it's only a little bit out, I contest that it should be left alone, to preserve the human element of the track.
how did to hook up an outboard gear to your studio live? i have the old studio live 16 but it only have Mic->channel input->Aux out. for what i know i need input an output but i just having a hard time to find a way to connect my pre amp and compressor the mixer just have Mic->channel input->Aux out witch i just cant find a way! I am new on this and i really need your help. Thank you.
Lol thanks for reposting I was waiting in great anticipation to hear that acoustic track for at least an hour now :p
What Kyle said! Except it was only one minute! LOL!
great video as always
Since you produce your own music, do you ever mix in the same session or transfer files into a fresh one? Do you even mix while composing, or do you hold off to the very end, maybe only adjust levels and stereo image?
Guitar And Video Games I know I’m not Joe but thought I’d offer my own answer just for perspective... I compose my own music too and will often do a draft mix as I go to get it sounding roughly how I think it will sound in the end. This gives me an idea of how everything is meshing together and can often help in terms of if I need to add or subtract any instruments or vocals. But I still set aside a separate day dedicated to mixing too so I can focus only on that.
Not sure of Joe’s approach but I do think it helps to do some balancing here and there 🙂
Great Stuff Man!!
Geddy Lee burbs about 3/4 the way through the Rush song The Camera Eye. It's barely audible between verses, but you hear it then he says 'sorry, guys.' I'm glad they left that in the mix.
Good vid...don't forget Melodyne for timing as well as pitch.
Damn, I just now realized after being subscribed for a few years that you're not Sflogicninja, aka David Earl. I thought when I first came across your vids that you were SFLN because he'd disappeared for a long time--just figured he'd started a new channel, completely forgetting what his real name is.
I've always liked your content, regardless of the mixup on my part. Keep up the good work, thanks for all that you do Davi....I mean Joe :P
I use a lot of virtual instruments, and so I have plenty of room to adjust my volumes on them, but is there a certain volume or db range they should be in? I get hung up on what volume to bounce these mixer channels at in MIDI. I feel like if I am making the song and doing the mixing I should just gain stage and balance the track more or less in MIDI before bouncing mixer channels, and starting the mix phase that way. Is there a reason not to do that? Just confused mainly on what the right choice is
great video. next time you do one on mix prep please remind people to name their tracks properly. that is one of my pet peeves. Also, they should be sure to check the levels on the tracks so some sections of the track are not twice as loud as others (not taking about natural dynamics), and no automation is printed on the export.
Quick question Joe, I want to upgrade my AI mixer for the series III 24, I have a Faderport 8 also, My question is should I sell the Faderport 8 along with the AI mixer? I don't think I'm gonna need it, but I see that you still use the Faderport with your series III mixer/control surface, would it benefit me to keep it? Thanks
Although I have to say the airplane right before Zep records Boogie with Stu is awesome.
He fixed it
Hey, Joe. Quick question: If your plan for the song’s outro is to have it fade out, should you put fades at the same point on all the tracks before sending them to the mix engineer, or give him the full recordings and ask him to fade them out at the rate he feels is appropriate?
I’d have him do the fade
Thanks, Joe. That’s what I figured.
1. I've listened to hundreds of mixing/recording blah blah tutorials your music sounds the best mixing wise. 2. You're a freaking riot. Haha love your vids.
thank u sir.
nice setup..
what software do u use, if I may ask..
Dee 1 he’s a Studio One guy
@@PoopingInTheParks I have that, but haven't learned it yet..
I've read debates about "Studio One" vs. "Pro Tools".
What's your take?
@@dee1380 studio one is everything pro tools is, plus everything it isn't with a simpler User Interface, and drastically lower cost. I would never reccomend any other DAW except for perhaps Harrison Mix bus as I have been hearing great things. As an all around unit though, nothing beats studio one.
@@OdinOfficialEmcee thank u..
I got some homework ahead of me....
Sorry, I’m a Logic user. The only I can for certain is that if I stopped using Logic, I would go to S1 way before I go back tonPro Tools
What's the tattoo on your arm, what's the story behind it if any?
Κατάπαυση ... nice
' and then you burp...' lol
they should make two types of albums. The old school way and the new way. I'm sure they're be great positives on both sides.
Dentures make some interesting sounds.
I use a service called Bounce Boss. Trust me it'll save a lot of headaches on both ends. It's very affordable too!
Way to build up suspense! haha
Imho, most time should be spent on writing, arranging and recording songs, and least time on mixing and mastering them… Of course i'm not talking about restoration of old recordings and such, there you could spend months, its cool... But time is spent best on recording than mixing (imho). If recorded well the mixing will be a breeze… Yeah I'm a bit generalizing here, but thats what I believe as a home recorder/mixer anyway (none professional). In time you will learn all the technical stuff with mixing anyway...
IMO you're underestimating Melodyne, sir. ✌ I've seen Melodyne make a bad voice sound amazing. Maybe not opera-amazing but def. Popradio-amazing
Yeah but still I'd rather work with good singers who aren't dependent on software to sound good.
Joe Gilder • Home Studio Corner fair enough. But from that attitude to claim Melodyne can't make a voice sound good is a far path to go. Just my opionion though. No disrespect.
@@relaxbro5605 Totally cool. I still don't think it can make a bad voice sound amazing. We might have different definitions of amazing.
Joe Gilder • Home Studio Corner absolutely, the defintion was the only way out 👌
But isn't that what the mixer is supposed to do? 🤔 how would a musician necessarily know how to do it? Just wondering
When someone hires me to mix, the expectation is I’m mixing, not editing and tuning. That’s a separate cost.
@@HomeStudioCorner As someone who is trying to build a clientele (primarily for mixing, as I'm already in my own studio working on my own stuff constantly) I can't count how often people want this done for free and they get shocked when you charge additional fees for editing, aligning, etc.
that explains the burps in this:
ruclips.net/video/-ZQPepIp1Sc/видео.html