Paracord and Bankline Can't Do this!
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Is paracord or bankline the end of the debate or is there another contender? Let the show down begin!!
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For thin but ultra-strong cordage get some Amsteel. 1/8 inch holds 1000 pounds. It’s slick and plasticy feeling and some knots won’t hold as well but it weighs nothing and doesn’t absorb water. Amazing stuff.
Thanks for sharing that!
Dyneema(Amsteel) is great but I have found only for specific purposes. There is too many drawbacks overall to go using it like a general purpose cordage like paracord.
Namely price is 4-5x even the more expensive reputable American made paracord out there.
It can be very slippy and doesn't knot well, or goes to the opposite extreme and knots so tightly it's impossible to recover.
Due to not having a woven sheath it tends to catch and tangle on things like bark, branches, twigs ect far more easily then paracord does.
I used it for a ridgeline for a while due to having a low stretch but it kepts getting caught up on bark and tangling on everything so I just went back to paracord. I tend to only use it now for soft shackles and woopi slings for hammocks.
@@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 i used 1/8 amsteel to pick up a 880lb spool of wire with one strand no sweat... got some just cause i wanted some truck rope and wanted to see if it was bs or not, and i was really impressed
@@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 use zing it for stuff like that. dyneema rope with a slick coating
But dyneema doesn't have to temp resistance that kevlar has.
Here's a suggestion for the frayed ends. Use a piece of double walled heat shrink 1.5 to 2.0 inches, apply the heat, then cut it in the center. Neither end will fray and you will have the little tough ends just like shoe strings. Here is a second way to use it: When you have abused the long end of a ratchet strap, replace the strap with the Kevlar cord. It works great.
Outstanding!!
use a drop of super glue
Needle whip or sailmakers whipping for larger. I use bow string serving thread. Quick and easy.
This is my first time hearing about this line , I'll have to check it out .
I remember working a job in the early 2000's where a pipefitter/rigger refused to used kevlar slings to rig a generator shaft (275 tons, IIRC) on the grounds that the supervising authority, that I absolutely do not remember the name of, had banned the used of kevlar because the individual strands had proven to cut each with use over time and there was no way to inspect the threads in a kernmantled sling.
Yay! Kevlar cord! It's abrasive, it will abrade steel, that's why it's not used for climbing line. But it definitely has it's own niche.
Theres a reason I carry 550, 275 and Kevlar cord in my kits. Dont have any bankline since it gets too hot where I am in the summer and it has a tendency to leave tar residue all over in the heat (hence the 275 cord). If you find kite handles on clearance or get them cheap somewhere they make good Kevlar cord keepers due to the smaller diameter, just have to strip the kite string off then wind on the kevlar.
great way to store your cordage!
For the toggle handles, try using a Marlinespike hitch. It works well and the toggle won't twist in your hands. It also capsizes into a regular slip knot.
WOW! Never heard of this stuff until watching this video, so thanks so much for sharing! I have 550, #12 and #36 bankline with my gear, but I think I need to pick up a small spool of this stuff to get accustomed to. Another informative video from the STOKER!! As always, THANKS MAN!!
How's it going Stoker ? Great video bud 👍. I just got back from a 4 week camping and kayak trip. Had a great time, with no internet. Will be going back out in a week, can't wait. Stay safe and be well brother. Strength and Honor... 👊 🤙 🍻.
That’s awesome!! Stay safe!
Top tip Bill. Seen this cord used for snagging telecoms cables through ducts. Will get scrounging. All the best from UK mate
I have some of the kevlar line and it is amazing stuff - a little expensive for my liking but I would recommend it for any kit.
It is pricey - but has its place I believe.
Dont forget the old school cordage 100% nylon "Masons Line"
I have to say, its been a long, long, long times since I have been genuinely impressed by a Bushcrafting video!
Look at all that smoke!
The caveman in me thinks that there has GOT to be a way to use this to make a friction fire!
That would be bad ass!
@@STOKERMATIC. Get out some fatwood and see what happens. Let us know how it goes.
That was a video! Especially with using the cord to make a pull up bar at the end!!!!
I used to use mason's line to cut through PVC pipe (2" - 6") in confined spaces (trenches) where saws wouldn't work. The line I can buy today melts in seconds. I'm getting some of that 200# test Kevlar braid on my work truck! Thank you for the info.
Agreed when I would trim out sinks in cabinets after the stops have been installed would use the same to cut 1 1/2. 2 inch a.b.s pipe to keep from damaging all other fixtures around this will be great
Never heard of these cords. Thank You 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
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I carry about 100 ft of each type, different straps for different tasks. 100 ft Amsteel for emergency rappel.
Awesome!
What size did you go for?
Excellent information Bill, I certainly will add some to my kits!
Yeah, it's a good tool. I'm looking forward to seeing how well it does in my year long test along with the others.
I've been using Spectra for years. It's what Spiderwire is made of. 200lb test is the size of 30lb test mono and is great for just about anything around camp. It is expensive, as is Kevlar and there aren't really any low cost alternatives. Both are good to have around in small amounts for sewing, snares, etc.
Spectral has a melting point of 283oF. So if there is friction it will melt and nreak.
For the edges of the kevlar cord here is my idea: Slide an electrical shrink tube on the edge of the line or where you want to cut a piece, shrink it, cut the cord in the middle of the tube piece, add a little drop of "crazy glue" into the edge of the tube. You can leave the shrunk tube on or pull it off for easiesr splicing , if that is what you intend to do.
Good no frills presentation, thanks for posting it. I just subscribed to your channel.
I’ve had kevlar in my rotation for a few years. I like that it doesn’t stretch.
My experience with kevlar and technora cord is that it frays just from handling it moving it around over time and even though it has a high strength rating some knots will cut through the cord and fail before it reaches the weight limit
I've owned 200 test pound Kevlar line for about 8 months or so and more recently bought 300 test pound Kevlar line . Wasn't aware of it's cutting ability. I carry a roll of 65 ft. for hanging my tent from above and utility purposes.
Did you experiment with how many cuts on a 3 or 4” log you could get before the cordage failed? It would be very interesting to know. Also if you can get cuts through a 6” log or bigger. Definitely a great hack for a backup to a folding saw that broke or got lost. Like you said, that cordage takes up no real space and having a spool along just in case…no brainer if you can get multiple cuts from a single 4’ piece. Loops tied in each end would have less waste too. Very cool idea. One of the best I’ve seen on RUclips in a long time. 👏👍✌️
I meant to test out the kevlar line in Titancord XT for this. Always forget because I have a real wiresaw in my kit...but the Titancord would be the paracord AND this stuff with something like 1000lbs test, so all three in one.
Also, it should be noted, with wiresaws you usually want to start below your elbows. It was kinda demonstrated in the video, but that will cut an angle up towards you and the tree will USUALLY fall away from you (anecdotal, this is just how it always goes for when I have done it). Not a guarantee so still watch out.
THANKS
Good video Stoker!
I'll look into these new lines.
Hope all is well, stay Stoked brother!
Doing good man! Same to you!👊
Great info - I'm Looking on e-bay right now (or when I'm finshed writing) Stay safe. ATB
That would be a good year long field test
Going to get it going soon. Will be interesting to see how they compare.
Awesome dude, thanks for posting.
I use super glue to solidify the ends of my Kevlar cord. You do get it on your fingers, just let it happen, A little twisty pulley action on the end of it. then the glue on your fingers that drives you nuts comes off with sand paper when your done
I prefer some lengths in my shop and dip the ends in epoxy & wipe
Great tip!
Thanks!
🎉thanks for this video!
had a hose break on my car and lost radeator fluid. pulled over right away and patched it with my medkit and then did a bunch of paracord ties around it to keep everything togeather. i was about 3 hours away from civilization with no cell service. the whole way home i was super worried about the paracord melting... i think i need me some of this. bought an 8$ bolt of the really thing stuff. interesting. does burn when held to a lighter but not like any plastic pe or nylon. usually self extinguishes after burning a cm/quarter inch
I’ve bought some of the same brand Kevlar kite stuff the 200 and 300 lb ones n love em.i keep some in my belt n Alice pack n mini packs. Darn good stuff.
Yes indeed. It was pretty badass.
whip the end. dont complicate things. dont use shrink wrap. use some yucca cordage for free and do it simple
Heard of Kevlar but not the other . Given some time and conditions you might could dip the ends in hot wax . I’ll have to look for it . Ten or twenty feet couldn’t hurt to carry. Have a great evening
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From a survival standpoint, calories burned using it as a saw>silky. Worth its carry weight. I would be more interested in how and if it could snare and was more chew resistant. Could it be used to make various primitive traps like ones I would have used paracord wound for a spring like affect in.
Another great video, been keeping kevlar line for a while
Dang it! Now I absolutly gotta go buy some of this stuff .. pretty friggin cool.
Tons of possible uses! Pretty wicked stuff
That is Very impressive.
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lol. Bought some based on your video of it; I’ve seen a guy toss it in the fire; and was shocked that it doesn’t burn or anything.
Amazing technology.
Would you say this is a good supplement to paracord; or is it an all out replacement…?
Any advice on organizing re-using previously used pieces…?
Thanks!
Good video. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Great overview of popular cordage and the “new kid” on the block. Like everyone else, 550 cord has always been in my pack and have seen the evolution towards bank line… but, Kevlar cord is a game changer! I keep about a 20’ of it in my Wazoo belt in the “secret” compartment, that way I always have 550 cord laces on my hiking boots and some kevlar cord secreted in my belt. The nice thing about stowing it in the belt is your don’t notice it as it’s around your waist.
Great stuff Top!
Keep up the Fire!
Outstanding!
Sweet I just bought a 200 foot spool gonna cut some fire wood
This cord looks like fun, but as a saw, as strong cordage it's expensive. Speaking for myself, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. It's super cool and if I was given some I wouldn't complain BUT for a tent, tarp or hammock it's just too expensive and just a dab of overkill - Pound for pound this cord is probably quadruple the price of all of my other gear combined, pound for pound.
damn man that's awesome
Pretty crazy!
Haha i use paracord for my work boots. Got tired of them just stretching out.
I wonder how the kevlar cord would hold up if you braided it like 3 together.
Both on the weight and how it would saw…
Side note i have seen thin paracord thats to be like uv, mildew, mold resistant
I might try it with the thinner stuff!
@@STOKERMATIC yah thats what i was talking about. Didnt recall if you said the name. Good shit bro keep it up and ty
But is it easy to cut? Cuz if it's gonna significantly dull my knife every time I need rope, it's a step down from both paracord AND bankline. In fact, I would even argue that regular cheap and brandless rope from the store beats it, at that point. It should not come to the detriment of my other tools, and definitely not one of my more important ones.
Good tip , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Same to ya brother.
sacred videos
much appreciated
I used it as floss and took a tooth out!!!
What knots work with kevlar and i suppose you shouldnt cut it with expensive knives?
Great Video!
Outstanding!
Kevlar is great technology but a saw is quicker. What else is it really necessary or the best solution for in outdoor use?
You bet it is. Would be great for fishing and snares IMO.
How much does the small diameter Kevlar line cost? and can you substitute a saw blade and make a bucksaw with it? When it breaks just cut another piece?
It’s not that expensive. Haven’t tried, but I just might. If the results are interesting, I’ll post a video.
It's not necessarily about specs, the thought that goes into picking equipment is always a balance of price, general usability aswell as specialised usability. I think having cordage like Kevlar, Dyneema ect is great to have handy for specialised use cases, but overall I will stick to paracord and bank line for most general purpose activities. Kevlar line is just way out of the price range to be cutting up, using and abusing the way most people use paracord.
How long did it take to saw through that tree?
Not long, probably a minute or so. Used little effort.
@@STOKERMATIC I was going to ask the same question, but figured someone already did. That is amazing it took a minute or so. I was thinking at least 5 to 10 minutes. Thanks for demo and keep up the great work.
Though I sped up the footage of cutting through it, it wasn’t overly sped up either. Great stuff!
What thickness in mm did you get your kevlar rope in?
What size is the Kevlar cord 200 pounds?
What?!?!?! Paracord isn't the be all end all?? BLASPHEMY!!!!! Actually, I'm guilty of just stuffing some paracord in my sack thinking that it would be good enough. Thanks for the lesson.
🤣😂 me too!!
Wow ... just how close were you to getting some embers for starting a fire with that? Could you use this as an alternate for starting a fire? It would be very energy intensive but if its cold outside it could be one way to help keep you warm? Wouldn't want to try this if its warm outside though. Interesting. How are you getting along? Hope all is well.
Doing well! I don’t think it would start a fire, but could be used for a bow drill.
Hot Dang Top. Your knife must be made kryptonite to cut string man.
😂🤣😂
Which diameter did you use in the video?
Awesome demo of cutting with the Kevlar line, but you cheated that last rep on the pull-ups!
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interesting
How is kevlar now for UV?
Year long test:
ruclips.net/video/NkrYgV4VscY/видео.html
How long did it take to get thru that tree? Id like to see other uses for it besides cutting trees be cause it failed you burned too many calories doin that. Plus i always have a saw and hatchet or axe. Bankline has more uses at lower price just sayn👍
Outstanding information Stoker ! Keep up
The outstanding work ! Wicked Awesome cordage for the Go Bag etc. Cheers 🍻 with commie tears from Boston
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Amazing
an another great video!
Nobody believes me about banklines... meh whatever 😁
Bank line is great stuff!
We got taught to use it on plastic cuffs during E+E/SERE training..
Check out @prepared pathfinder channel..atb from UK 🇬🇧.
Works great for that & Tom is a great dude!
I think that's a really good idea to set all those samples out in the elements for a year, and then see how they look, feel, & perform in comparison.
Got it going! Sitting on the roof of my porch now. We’ll see how they hold up!
@@STOKERMATIC it'll be interesting to see if the black pigment/dye makes the kevlar UV resistant like it does with black vs clear zipties, the raw yellow kevlar is very sensitive to UV/sunlight.
I worked with Kevlar belting before on a conveyor system used as drive belts for very long live roller systems actuated the drive belts with pneumatics. These Kevlar belts is not tracked properly could easily cut a hole in the side wall of the conveyor cut air lines and wires. We would fuse it together by cutting fingers and melting it with a small oven like cooler that got up to 300c. Any time the belt didn’t track properly it would make dust it is very abrasive. But very strong.
It does dry rot. With repeated use and exposure. It starts to crack after long term use but usually after a few years of constant use. I would assume that this line wouldn’t see the kind of use and motion a conveyor system running 16 plus hrs a day would see.
This stuff is AMAZING! Thank you for the video. I'm looking into how to keep it from fraying if you're using a multi-strand cord. That's the only downside I can foresee.
I've been looking into that too. I plan to try superglue, and maybe that uv glue? I have a project I really want to use it for, but it is challenging stuff to work with. My first challenging was just cutting it 😂
@@KOKO-uu7yd superglue seems like it would be a good idea. I am using a figure 8 stopper knot for now until I figure out a better solution but I might try your method. Let me know how it works out for you.
Good information stoker cord stoker don’t mess around
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How long Did it actually take to cut thru?
Def no more than 2 minutes of slow pulling. Like butter!
Hey, watch where you swing that knife buddy (2:20) lol
That is some tough stuff! Thanks for sharing.
I would love to see how different types of cordage holds up in the elements as well as in holding loads and structures together over time. Deterioration and Stretching limits would be interesting to see 🤙🏽