I have heard many explanations for the question posed, but never, have I heard such a logical, wonderful, insightful answer! Thanks for this. I have previously pondered this idea before, you have helped a lot to answer it.
The section addressing " What is under our control," is in itself thought provoking. From Surah Al Kahf, The Cave, we learn that when we are asleep, it is Allah who turns us to left and right! So even this is not under our control! Mind blowing.
*Nowhere does it say the other choice for not coming to earth for this test was to not to exist at all. In fact Allah has called us fools for accepting this challenge. Also it says Allah asked other creations of his for this challenge but they all declined. This means we will still have existed even if we didn't accept this challenge. Allah didn't blackmail us.*
“Blessed is He in whose hand is dominion, and He is over all things competent-[He] who created death and life to test you as to which of you is best in deed.” (Surah Al-Mulk, 67:1-2) These verses collectively emphasize that life is a divine blessing, granted with purpose, and that gratitude to Allah is a fundamental part of recognizing and appreciating this gift. ❤
Thank you. I would also like to add my opinion which is similar :) I believe when Allah created us , he then gave us 2 options: Option 1: back to non-existence , Option: 2 heaven/hell after earth. So God created us but the choice to come to earth was our will. So we can only blame ourserselves, not God. Another point I asked myself in the past, what if I chose nonexistence instead of heaven on Judgement day? I strongly believe that it would be impossible. Because as Rene descartes say: "I think therefore I am ". Since we are thinking right now, it implies that we did not choose non existence. If we chose non existence, we would not be able to think or exist right now. Because source is lost. Our soul is not bind to Earth time. Think of it as computer and it was unplugged. This was just my opinion. Thanks.
S.a. Thats not the answer to the question. When Allah (swt) asked the souls “am I your Lord?”, they were already created. Moreover, they were only asked if Allah was their Lord or not. And they confirmed He was. This was the covenant. However, the question in the video comes from the disbelievers so the Quran is not an evidence for them. This is the reason that the doctor provides a philosophical evidence. He says, you cannot have an ability to make a choice before you are created. Another important thing is, did the souls who said “you are our Lord” have a choice to exist or not exist? So, you are missing the point here…
It is an interesting take on the topic. However, it is not accurate and there are multiple counter arguments. 1- To make a choice between non-existence and existence sounds like an easy choice. 2- The choice , however, appears to have been a choice of existence for a short and testing life , followed either by eternal heaven or by eternal hell, versus the choice of non-existence. 3- Such choice is not straight forward as the choice in 1 above. One can argue that the benefit of existence can be outweighed by the potential risk of suffering in an eternal hell, and that a “risk averse” soul might choose non-existence over the risk of eternal suffering. Other souls, which are more optimistic or maybe confident about its destiny , would opt for existence. 4- The real question is how you make a choice? You make a choice based on judgement, experience and logical evaluation of options and consequences. What are the capabilities of a newly created soul to make a reasonably informed choice ? And why different souls can make different choices or should they all be making the same choice if it is the only attractive choice ? 5- In my humble opinion, the dynamics of making an “informed” choice remain a mystery , unless : - non-existence is worse than the potential of eternal suffering. - There is no eternal suffering, and it is only temporary. - The ones making the choice don’t understand the risks and are tempted by the rewards of existence followed by eternal bliss. My conclusion is that the “choice” dynamics and the state of awareness and the basis on which the souls made their choices remain a mystery. Also , some conventional religious interpretations of certain verses about the topic , suggest that mankind forgot about his covenant with God and was also ignorant and unfair , either in his choices or in the fulfillment of his covenants . ظلوماً جهولاً
@@tanerserdar the way the point was explained in the video is that the soul was first created then given a choice to exist in human form with a body and flesh or to cease to exist . Hence , my comment and arguments. So, obviously in that context, the creation of the soul was not a choice .
@@beautylover123 Thank you for the clarification. The video presents a hypothetical scenario which aims to explain that we were not given a choice. Free will comes after we exist and even that is very limited.
In pre eternity Allah has given a choice and took covenant from us while we were in our true essence (soul) Truly, We did offer AlAmanah (soul) to the heavens and the earth, and the mountains, but they declined to bear it and were afraid of it (iBut man bore it. Verily, he was unjust (to himself) and ignorant (of its results).al Kazan 72 And recall (O Prophet) when your Lord brought forth descendants from the loins of the sons of Adam, and made them witnesses against their ownselves. asking them: ‘Am I not your Lord?’ They said: ‘Yes, we do testify.’ We did so lest you claim on the Day of Resurrection: ‘We were unaware of this.’ Or say: ‘Our forefathers before us who associated others with Allah in His divinity; we were merely their offspring who followed them. And would You destroy us for that which the unrighteous did?’ Al Arafat 172-173
S.a. Thats not the answer to the question. When Allah (swt) asked the souls “am I your Lord?”, they were already created. Moreover, they were only asked if Allah was their Lord or not. And they confirmed He was. This was the covenant. However, the question in the video comes from the disbelievers so the Quran is not an evidence for them. This is the reason that the doctor provides a philosophical evidence. He says, you cannot have an ability to make a choice before you are created. Another important thing is, did the souls who said “you are our Lord” have a choice to exist or not exist? So, you are missing the point here…
@@tanerserdar wa alaykum assalaam your misunderstanding of my post has led you to few erroneous assumptions. the verses cited,are to show that, from an islamic perspective, some events had occured in another realm prior to our descent to this physical world.the first verse is validating what the gentleman is saying, about the choice to go to earth at the onset of our conception. Here in the verse the choice for humans to carry the soul versus inanimate objects, therefore bearing all conscious decisions that follows. the second verse is merely to validate prior communication, antecedent to this earthly life. so, your first fallacy is a straw man argument! your second misconception is that, this question is addressed by non believers why use religious text to answer it? If we were watching the same videos I think the gentelman is purely using metaphysical arguments( soul, God, angel of death etc..) along with rational ones to address the questions!! Again, to relieve your confusion this question is theophilosophical of nature, meaning the questioner is already assuming the existence of a divine entity (the one who did not give him the choice).Your false asumption of "disbeliever" led you misunderstand the essence of the debate at hand. to clarify the mater further, the aim of people who ask this question are assuming the veracity of first proposition i.e existence of God, creation, determinism and so on. So they are expecting from you a theophilosphical answer. therefore the validity to use, your scriptures and any philosphical argument you may have . Capiche? Amongst the different answers given. Accepting that your are created by a divine force and you had no choice, is an argument from ignorance, not knowing the answer does not mean there is no answer. waking up, and finding your self in a train without prior knowledge of it, would not trigger the question: " I had no choice to be here" but rather a rational inquiry of : "how I end up in here"? "who put me in here"? "where am I going"? .Existential questions! from a theophilosophical perspective, the answer is related to the divine will, and divine wisdom."he is not questioned about what he does, but they will be questioned" quran 21:23. in our world if your boss sets the rule your are not to question them you just follow why? because he has the will ,the power and he knows the wisdom behind his decisions. I hope this clear enough wa alaykum asslaam
@@riadhvet My friend, you are never going to understand my point are you? Maybe you just do not want to understand. The logic is simple, it is not like waking up on a train. If you wake up on a train, you have a biological body, free will and intellect. You will obviously question how you got there. But the argument is very clear, at sometime back in history, you did not exist. Not spiritually, not physically. So, you are a contingent being whose existence depends on an external will and power. A contingent being does not have the choice to exist or not exist. Something other than you makes that decision. This means you never had the choice to exist or not exist. The question is not as complex as you try to put it. Therefore it is you who is misunderstanding the argument!!! I have included the exclamation marks because it seems like you think when you include those your argument is correct. Is that clear enough for you?
@ the analogy of the train ? That’s all that got stuck in your mind of all the things I’ve said. Sorry! this is going no where. Have a lovely night . Wa assalaamu alaykum
yes it's true, but this professor is well versed in others scriptures like judaism maybe it slips from his mouth. i also don't know it until i researched it but in the muslim community azrael is the angel of death although azrael is not mentioned explicitly in the Quran.
That sounds scary. But also hypothetical, because you were never given that choice. I wonder if one could say the same thing if death actually appeared before them 🤔
Hi to everyone, you are talking upon your initial belief, and your mind is switched to information given to you since childhood, so your mind is not free enough to see realities of unlimited universe. If you were borne in non believer,....your basic data in your brain would be different. But we must remember that we are not obliged to believe God etc,but must investigate our body,surrounding, nature,then live like human,without war,hate,,,,then after on we automatically will see all realities of life.when on earth we make so much mess and kills, destruction, with all sects with different gods !!!!isn't it better to learn how to live ,respect,like,love,peace,,,,,thanks ,wish good dissent life for all
@@rezadavoody2725 The argument is not about belief or disbelief. It is about whether humans had a choice to exist or not exist. It is simple, we did not have that choice. Don’t complicate things for yourself.
Such a nonsens answer. So first God puts in you the instinct for survival and nefs and than ask you if you want to exist? How fare is that? I do not think we are able to answer this question.
I have heard many explanations for the question posed, but never, have I heard such a logical, wonderful, insightful answer!
Thanks for this. I have previously pondered this idea before, you have helped a lot to answer it.
Very beautiful..i follow you from Belgium and use auto traduction in french ❤
The section addressing " What is under our control," is in itself thought provoking.
From Surah Al Kahf, The Cave, we learn that when we are asleep, it is Allah who turns us to left and right! So even this is not under our control!
Mind blowing.
Absolutely stunning explanation for this type of question. May Almighty reward you with the best reward!Aameen.
Excellent answer !!!
Such a brilliant explanation of an age old question.❤
Thanks DR
Thanks a lot Isra Academy
I love to listen to your logic. It's beautiful.
Amazing program. Thank you for your hard work
Very well said.
Nicely explained
It was beautiful ❤. Jazakallah khair . Makes perfect sense
Alhamdulillah for Islam and being Muslim.
Very nice..tnx a lot💐💐💐
excellent explanation. Alhamdullilah, as muslim, we know the purpose of our life
We were sentenced to this earth. For life, for what we did.
I exist. Therefore, I am.
*Nowhere does it say the other choice for not coming to earth for this test was to not to exist at all. In fact Allah has called us fools for accepting this challenge. Also it says Allah asked other creations of his for this challenge but they all declined. This means we will still have existed even if we didn't accept this challenge. Allah didn't blackmail us.*
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“Blessed is He in whose hand is dominion, and He is over all things competent-[He] who created death and life to test you as to which of you is best in deed.”
(Surah Al-Mulk, 67:1-2)
These verses collectively emphasize that life is a divine blessing, granted with purpose, and that gratitude to Allah is a fundamental part of recognizing and appreciating this gift. ❤
How to send questions to the Professor?
They read the comment section and he responds in subsequent videos Mashallah
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I liked the story at the end :)
Glad you like it.
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Does it mean we have been given a choice to come to this life or not?
Thank you. I would also like to add my opinion which is similar :)
I believe when Allah created us , he then gave us 2 options: Option 1: back to non-existence , Option: 2 heaven/hell after earth.
So God created us but the choice to come to earth was our will. So we can only blame ourserselves, not God.
Another point I asked myself in the past, what if I chose nonexistence instead of heaven on Judgement day? I strongly believe that it would be impossible. Because as Rene descartes say: "I think therefore I am ". Since we are thinking right now, it implies that we did not choose non existence. If we chose non existence, we would not be able to think or exist right now. Because source is lost. Our soul is not bind to Earth time. Think of it as computer and it was unplugged. This was just my opinion. Thanks.
The answer to this question is in Quran Chapter Seven verse one hundred and seventy- two and Chapter thirty-three verse seventy- two.
S.a. Thats not the answer to the question.
When Allah (swt) asked the souls “am I your Lord?”, they were already created. Moreover, they were only asked if Allah was their Lord or not. And they confirmed He was. This was the covenant.
However, the question in the video comes from the disbelievers so the Quran is not an evidence for them. This is the reason that the doctor provides a philosophical evidence. He says, you cannot have an ability to make a choice before you are created.
Another important thing is, did the souls who said “you are our Lord” have a choice to exist or not exist?
So, you are missing the point here…
It is an interesting take on the topic. However, it is not accurate and there are multiple counter arguments.
1- To make a choice between non-existence and existence sounds like an easy choice.
2- The choice , however, appears to have been a choice of existence for a short and testing life , followed either by eternal heaven or by eternal hell, versus the choice of non-existence.
3- Such choice is not straight forward as the choice in 1 above. One can argue that the benefit of existence can be outweighed by the potential risk of suffering in an eternal hell, and that a “risk averse” soul might choose non-existence over the risk of eternal suffering. Other souls, which are more optimistic or maybe confident about its destiny , would opt for existence.
4- The real question is how you make a choice? You make a choice based on judgement, experience and logical evaluation of options and consequences. What are the capabilities of a newly created soul to make a reasonably informed choice ? And why different souls can make different choices or should they all be making the same choice if it is the only attractive choice ?
5- In my humble opinion, the dynamics of making an “informed” choice remain a mystery , unless :
- non-existence is worse than the potential of eternal suffering.
- There is no eternal suffering, and it is only temporary.
- The ones making the choice don’t understand the risks and are tempted by the rewards of existence followed by eternal bliss.
My conclusion is that the “choice” dynamics and the state of awareness and the basis on which the souls made their choices remain a mystery.
Also , some conventional religious interpretations of certain verses about the topic , suggest that mankind forgot about his covenant with God and was also ignorant and unfair , either in his choices or in the fulfillment of his covenants . ظلوماً جهولاً
Did you make the choice to exist? Can you explain to us how you made this choice when you did not exist 😂
@@tanerserdar the way the point was explained in the video is that the soul was first created then given a choice to exist in human form with a body and flesh or to cease to exist . Hence , my comment and arguments. So, obviously in that context, the creation of the soul was not a choice .
@@beautylover123 Thank you for the clarification. The video presents a hypothetical scenario which aims to explain that we were not given a choice.
Free will comes after we exist and even that is very limited.
I should have chosen ,non existence.
In pre eternity Allah has given a choice and took covenant from us while we were in our true essence (soul)
Truly, We did offer AlAmanah (soul) to the heavens and the earth, and the mountains, but they declined to bear it and were afraid of it (iBut man bore it. Verily, he was unjust (to himself) and ignorant (of its results).al Kazan 72
And recall (O Prophet) when your Lord brought forth descendants from the loins of the sons of Adam, and made them witnesses against their ownselves. asking them: ‘Am I not your Lord?’ They said: ‘Yes, we do testify.’ We did so lest you claim on the Day of Resurrection: ‘We were unaware of this.’
Or say: ‘Our forefathers before us who associated others with Allah in His divinity; we were merely their offspring who followed them. And would You destroy us for that which the unrighteous did?’ Al Arafat 172-173
S.a. Thats not the answer to the question.
When Allah (swt) asked the souls “am I your Lord?”, they were already created. Moreover, they were only asked if Allah was their Lord or not. And they confirmed He was. This was the covenant.
However, the question in the video comes from the disbelievers so the Quran is not an evidence for them. This is the reason that the doctor provides a philosophical evidence. He says, you cannot have an ability to make a choice before you are created.
Another important thing is, did the souls who said “you are our Lord” have a choice to exist or not exist?
So, you are missing the point here…
@@tanerserdar wa alaykum assalaam
your misunderstanding of my post has led you to few erroneous assumptions.
the verses cited,are to show that, from an islamic perspective, some events had occured in another realm prior to our descent to this physical world.the first verse is validating what the gentleman is saying, about the choice to go to earth at the onset of our conception. Here in the verse the choice for humans to carry the soul versus inanimate objects, therefore bearing all conscious decisions that follows.
the second verse is merely to validate prior communication, antecedent to this earthly life.
so, your first fallacy is a straw man argument!
your second misconception is that, this question is addressed by non believers why use religious text to answer it?
If we were watching the same videos I think the gentelman is purely using metaphysical arguments( soul, God, angel of death etc..) along with rational ones to address the questions!! Again, to relieve your confusion this question is theophilosophical of nature, meaning the questioner is already assuming the existence of a divine entity (the one who did not give him the choice).Your false asumption of "disbeliever" led you misunderstand the essence of the debate at hand.
to clarify the mater further, the aim of people who ask this question are assuming the veracity of first proposition i.e existence of God, creation, determinism and so on. So they are expecting from you a theophilosphical answer. therefore the validity to use, your scriptures and any philosphical argument you may have . Capiche?
Amongst the different answers given.
Accepting that your are created by a divine force and you had no choice, is an argument from ignorance, not knowing the answer does not mean there is no answer.
waking up, and finding your self in a train without prior knowledge of it, would not trigger the question: " I had no choice to be here"
but rather a rational inquiry of : "how I end up in here"? "who put me in here"? "where am I going"? .Existential questions!
from a theophilosophical perspective, the answer is related to the divine will, and divine wisdom."he is not questioned about what he does, but they will be questioned" quran 21:23. in our world if your boss sets the rule your are not to question them you just follow why? because he has the will ,the power and he knows the wisdom behind his decisions. I hope this clear enough
wa alaykum asslaam
@@riadhvet
My friend, you are never going to understand my point are you? Maybe you just do not want to understand.
The logic is simple, it is not like waking up on a train. If you wake up on a train, you have a biological body, free will and intellect. You will obviously question how you got there.
But the argument is very clear, at sometime back in history, you did not exist. Not spiritually, not physically. So, you are a contingent being whose existence depends on an external will and power.
A contingent being does not have the choice to exist or not exist. Something other than you makes that decision.
This means you never had the choice to exist or not exist.
The question is not as complex as you try to put it.
Therefore it is you who is misunderstanding the argument!!!
I have included the exclamation marks because it seems like you think when you include those your argument is correct.
Is that clear enough for you?
@ the analogy of the train ? That’s all that got stuck in your mind of all the things I’ve said. Sorry! this is going no where. Have a lovely night . Wa assalaamu alaykum
@@riadhvet yes it is not, lets agree to disagree. Alaykum salam…
Just a small humble remark, the name azrail is not found in any authentic Islamic sources, it comes from Judaism, the name in Islam is angel of death
The best explanation ever, teshekkurler.
yes it's true, but this professor is well versed in others scriptures like judaism maybe it slips from his mouth. i also don't know it until i researched it but in the muslim community azrael is the angel of death although azrael is not mentioned explicitly in the Quran.
@@NurizatulNisa yes in muslim communities all over the world, but not in khadees and Quran
I choose non existence.
That sounds scary.
But also hypothetical, because you were never given that choice.
I wonder if one could say the same thing if death actually appeared before them 🤔
Hi to everyone, you are talking upon your initial belief, and your mind is switched to information given to you since childhood, so your mind is not free enough to see realities of unlimited universe. If you were borne in non believer,....your basic data in your brain would be different. But we must remember that we are not obliged to believe God etc,but must investigate our body,surrounding, nature,then live like human,without war,hate,,,,then after on we automatically will see all realities of life.when on earth we make so much mess and kills, destruction, with all sects with different gods !!!!isn't it better to learn how to live ,respect,like,love,peace,,,,,thanks ,wish good dissent life for all
@@rezadavoody2725 The argument is not about belief or disbelief. It is about whether humans had a choice to exist or not exist. It is simple, we did not have that choice. Don’t complicate things for yourself.
Such a nonsens answer. So first God puts in you the instinct for survival and nefs and than ask you if you want to exist? How fare is that? I do not think we are able to answer this question.
Yes it was your decision to come to this world.