Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Gordon Every year everybody should flip their fire extinguishers over. Hit them with a rubber mallet on the bottom and shake to loosen up the fire retardant material And your video is correct On pressurizing the bottle Again, thanks for taking the time to make the informative video
It's my understanding that dry fire extinguishers are typically filled with inert gases such as Carbon Dioxide or Nitrogen. The reason is because adding Oxygen can make the fire bigger! Even though any old gas will technically cause the powder to come out ~ I would want to make sure it's the same gas that the extinguisher was originally charged with. ~
It is all good if you pressurize it and discharge immediately. If seats for a while the powder will cake, moisture pumped with air will do it, also must mallet it prior and after filling up to loose the powder inside. Unless you fill with a filter system that will remove moisture it will soon be useless.
Recharge with air sure, but if it’s older rap it on the bottom side with a rubber mallet( (or solid bit of kindling) to stir up the powder compound before and after. Just saying... if your gonna use cheat codes ☝🏻
You are correct to loosen the fire retardant , Extinguisher's are designed in the upright position when installed. After time and vibration, the dry Chem does what's called "Cakeing" especially on machinery.
Uncaring the dry Chem still won't deploy without pressure. We use nitrogen, not air. Air has moisture in it, where Nitrogen is inert, therefore, has no moisture.
Inhalation of monoammonium phosphate and sodium bicarbonate can cause mild irritation to the nose, throat, and lungs and results in symptoms like shortness of breath and coughing. Dizziness and headache are also possible. These symptoms usually resolve quickly with fresh air. Ongoing minor irritation often improves after a steam treatment, such as a steamy shower. People with lung conditions like asthma or someone deliberately sprayed at close range can have more serious respiratory effects and might need medical attention. Contact of these powders with the eyes, nose, throat, and skin can cause irritation, which should improve after rinsing the exposed area. Deliberate inhalation or ingestion can cause serious symptoms such as pneumonia, seizures, irregular heartbeat, and kidney failure. People with more than mild symptoms or anyone with a deliberate exposure should be managed in a healthcare facility.
HI, YOUR NOT TO CLEAR ON THIS, ARE YOU PUTTING THE AIR HOSE INTO THE OUT SPOUT? ALSO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE SWEEZING THE HANDLE DOWN WHILE FILLING IT, IS THAT TRUE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH?
Moisture can cause the dry chemical agent to cake and become clogged in the hose or nozzle or not dispense at all. Gordon comes up with some very creative bad ideas.
Nitrogen is cheaper than a proper air fill station that dehumidifies the air with no oil getting in, like you fill dive tanks. Oil and moisture isn't good.
Hiya mate. I have refilled 2 fire extinguishers. Both water. When I refill to an appropriate level of water I screw the top back on as tight as human hands possibly and when I recharge them the air goes inside the bottle but the pressure gauge doesn’t go up. I am using a hand pump tho. But I can’t figure out why the gauge isn’t moving. Any idea why?
because the air gauge measures the amount of air pressure inside the canister not water. unless yours is made with water type of fire extinguisher material or foam but idk if they would accept water pressure inside .
Another terrible idea from Gordon. Do not do this. Dry nitrogen is used to pressurize these types of extinguishes for several very good reasons; I will not go into details; please, do your own research. But consider this, if the pressurized extinguisher has lost its pressure, don't you think, if not properly repaired or reconditioned (e.g., new pressure seals installed (there are several in this type of extinguisher)), that the air will leak out again in short time? Do you really want to trust this "hack" when you are in an emergency situation? For example, trying to extinguish a kitchen-fire? Just spend the $40 and be certain your extinguisher will work when you need it.
I do not have access to nitrogen. As a home brewer with CO2 on tanks with regulators (for 'forced carbonation'), I also wondered about that possibility. However, when I asked AI, it told me, "CO2 and nitrogen have different pressure characteristics. CO2 is stored as a liquid under pressure and becomes a gas when released, while nitrogen is stored as a gas. The pressure differences can affect the extinguisher's operation." As I play Pickle Ball with our local fire chief, I'm wondering if he may offer to recharge ours...
First off Ray you purchased the cheapest fire extinguisher made they always leak. Next thing is never pump air into a dry chemical fire extinguisher the moisture will cake up the powder also never use air it feeds the fire. If you are still alive, I hope you are, spend a little more and get a refillable all metal fire extg. never go cheap on a safety product. The brand you have is a disposable type that had major recalls on them. r
@@matushorvath2854 did you know already know that kidde has had many recalls and it seems they have not been honest about documenting product failurse and its been my personal expereince that I had a recalled are alarm and they would not send a replacement they only did so after I went on social media and left a very negative review that included the report I got from a professional engineer to their company titled notice of child endangerment had I not had a professional report in my reseacrched data I don't know that my claim for a recalled claimed would have been reactivated !
@HMia-l4x 😂 You have never seen a fire extinguisher have you? 2kg extinguishers are periodically pressure tested to 363Psi (25 bar) Yet they operate at 217Psi (15 bar) Not only that, see the little round thing on the side it? is called a pressure gauge!! As long as you keep the needle inside of the green 'recharged' area of the dial. You are perfectly safe. 😂
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Excellent! I was so close to throwing mine out. Thanks
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Gordon
Every year everybody should flip their fire extinguishers over. Hit them with a rubber mallet on the bottom and shake to loosen up the fire retardant material
And your video is correct On pressurizing the bottle
Again, thanks for taking the time to make the informative video
No, Gordon's video is not correct, not even close.
Never hit a fire extinguisher on the bottom with a rubber mallet and this guy doesn’t know what he’s doing and will get someone hurt or killed
It's my understanding that dry fire extinguishers are typically filled with inert gases such as Carbon Dioxide or Nitrogen. The reason is because adding Oxygen can make the fire bigger! Even though any old gas will technically cause the powder to come out ~ I would want to make sure it's the same gas that the extinguisher was originally charged with. ~
It is all good if you pressurize it and discharge immediately. If seats for a while the powder will cake, moisture pumped with air will do it, also must mallet it prior and after filling up to loose the powder inside.
Unless you fill with a filter system that will remove moisture it will soon be useless.
Recharge with air sure, but if it’s older rap it on the bottom side with a rubber mallet( (or solid bit of kindling) to stir up the powder compound before and after. Just saying... if your gonna use cheat codes ☝🏻
I travel with mine up side down! Stops the sediment factor.
You are correct to loosen the fire retardant , Extinguisher's are designed in the upright position when installed. After time and vibration, the dry Chem does what's called "Cakeing" especially on machinery.
Uncaring the dry Chem still won't deploy without pressure. We use nitrogen, not air. Air has moisture in it, where Nitrogen is inert, therefore, has no moisture.
Inhalation of monoammonium phosphate and sodium bicarbonate can cause mild irritation to the nose, throat, and lungs and results in symptoms like shortness of breath and coughing. Dizziness and headache are also possible. These symptoms usually resolve quickly with fresh air. Ongoing minor irritation often improves after a steam treatment, such as a steamy shower. People with lung conditions like asthma or someone deliberately sprayed at close range can have more serious respiratory effects and might need medical attention. Contact of these powders with the eyes, nose, throat, and skin can cause irritation, which should improve after rinsing the exposed area. Deliberate inhalation or ingestion can cause serious symptoms such as pneumonia, seizures, irregular heartbeat, and kidney failure. People with more than mild symptoms or anyone with a deliberate exposure should be managed in a healthcare facility.
HI, YOUR NOT TO CLEAR ON THIS, ARE YOU PUTTING THE AIR HOSE INTO THE OUT SPOUT? ALSO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE SWEEZING THE HANDLE DOWN WHILE FILLING IT, IS THAT TRUE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH?
nice moist oxygen to put out a fire, hmmm
Didn't think of that. Thats funny.
You people the atmosphere is 20% o2.
Moisture can cause the dry chemical agent to cake and become clogged in the hose or nozzle or not dispense at all. Gordon comes up with some very creative bad ideas.
U are recharging with just pressurized air? I thought u are suppose to pressurize it with nitrogen?
Nitrogen is cheaper than a proper air fill station that dehumidifies the air with no oil getting in, like you fill dive tanks. Oil and moisture isn't good.
@@willl.3353 WRONG! Nitrogen is EXACTLY what the manufacturer directs it to be filled with!
@@hsfd138 you're actually agreeing with me that compressed air is not recommended.
Compressed air will make the fire grow as you will be adding oxygen to your fire. Nitrogen does the opposite.
Thank you so much!
Very helpful
Hiya mate. I have refilled 2 fire extinguishers. Both water. When I refill to an appropriate level of water I screw the top back on as tight as human hands possibly and when I recharge them the air goes inside the bottle but the pressure gauge doesn’t go up. I am using a hand pump tho. But I can’t figure out why the gauge isn’t moving. Any idea why?
because the air gauge measures the amount of air pressure inside the canister not water.
unless yours is made with water type of fire extinguisher material or foam but idk if they would accept water pressure inside .
Don’t do this. This “recharge “ won’t last a day.
Thank you
Another terrible idea from Gordon. Do not do this. Dry nitrogen is used to pressurize these types of extinguishes for several very good reasons; I will not go into details; please, do your own research. But consider this, if the pressurized extinguisher has lost its pressure, don't you think, if not properly repaired or reconditioned (e.g., new pressure seals installed (there are several in this type of extinguisher)), that the air will leak out again in short time? Do you really want to trust this "hack" when you are in an emergency situation? For example, trying to extinguish a kitchen-fire? Just spend the $40 and be certain your extinguisher will work when you need it.
I use carbon dioxide to fill mine after taking the valve off and cleaning the tank.
I do not have access to nitrogen. As a home brewer with CO2 on tanks with regulators (for 'forced carbonation'), I also wondered about that possibility. However, when I asked AI, it told me, "CO2 and nitrogen have different pressure characteristics. CO2 is stored as a liquid under pressure and becomes a gas when released, while nitrogen is stored as a gas. The pressure differences can affect the extinguisher's operation." As I play Pickle Ball with our local fire chief, I'm wondering if he may offer to recharge ours...
Well fuck
I should have known
First off Ray you purchased the cheapest fire extinguisher made they always leak. Next thing is never pump air into a dry chemical fire extinguisher the moisture will cake up the powder also never use air it feeds the fire. If you are still alive, I hope you are, spend a little more and get a refillable all metal fire extg. never go cheap on a safety product. The brand you have is a disposable type that had major recalls on them.
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You are going to get someone hurt or killed that is not the proper way to recharge a fire extinguisher
Not a good idea. Those particular extinguishers are not safe in the first place.
I agre with your coment
@@matushorvath2854 did you know already know that kidde has had many recalls and it seems they have not been honest about documenting product failurse and its been my personal expereince that I had a recalled are alarm and they would not send a replacement they only did so after I went on social media and left a very negative review that included the report I got from a professional engineer to their company titled notice of child endangerment had I not had a professional report in my reseacrched data I don't know that my claim for a recalled claimed would have been reactivated !
Making a clip about fire extinguisher without proper knowledge to teach people is inappropriate and dangerous! It can cost people’s life!
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@HMia-l4x 😂
You have never seen a fire extinguisher have you?
2kg extinguishers are periodically pressure tested to 363Psi (25 bar)
Yet they operate at 217Psi (15 bar)
Not only that, see the little round thing on the side it? is called a pressure gauge!!
As long as you keep the needle inside of the green 'recharged' area of the dial. You are perfectly safe.
😂
I guess you put the rubber part of the air hose Into the outlet?????????????? I couldn't tell because you were turned away.
2+2=3 someone help
That first one/and the second fire extinguishers are the cheapest ones that money can buy