Never thought id say this as a USA main. But i actually feel bad for Russian mains right now. The Typhoon and Rafale have hit them probably the hardest. I hope the Su-30SM is really good for their sake.
I’m not excited until I see it in game. You already know the snail will need the FM, give it regular R-77 for some reason, maybe even give it a 50% chance to spontaneously combust every 5 minutes
I mean mostly because now all the hype will really start because we are now starting to get the next generation of 4th gens, not to mention USSR hasn't had a good platform for a while and the Su-30SM will be just that
@@mangosuppe8706 I have read that the thrust vectoring on the SU-30 is linked to the fly-by-wire system, but considering how inconsistent Gaijin is with realism vs arcade, it could be anything.
@@user-cs3qh1uv5y Animation? You’re confusing things. Curving the effectiveness wouldn’t be anywhere near realistic. Again; screamed at by the community. They normally don’t laze out on features like that though, so it should come to the game nicely.
Remember though that BVVD said himself in dev Q&A that they don’t plan on adding those to improve the platforms effectiveness so they’ll probably just improve the current missiles performance and the performance of the platform they already slightly improved the R-73 and gave buffs to the Su-27s/sm
Imagine them giving: Malaysian Su-30MKM to Japanese Algerian Su-30MKA to French Indian Su-30MKI to Bri'ish Su-30MKK to Chinese -Vietnamese Su-30MK2V to the USA-
yes sure, however when planes like the eurofighter gets its iris-ts and the american jets get their aim 9x and the nose authority of the f18 it returns back to ground zero, maybe the top taken up by the euro
@MatAWG Almost all PESA's have additional mech scan since PESA wont requier massive active cooling system like AESA, which is mostly fixed and only top end advanced AESA today also have additinal mech scan. So i woudnt call this "hybrid" just a PESA with more wide angles.
N011M is not simply a PESA, but instead, it's a transition between PESA and AESA in that it adopts technologies from both: each transceiver on the antenna array of N011M has its own receiver amplifier, which is the same as AESA, and with noise level of 3dB, which is also in the same class of AESA arrays. However, for transmitting, N011M uses PESA technology in that a single Chelnok traveling-wave tube is used for EGSP-6A transmitter. There are three receiving channels for N011M.
The Su-27SM should be upgraded to SM3 standard IMO with R-77-1 and maybeee R-73M. The Su-30SM would also be welcomed with the same air to air armament, but i feel like the MiG-29M/M2/K, MiG-35, and Su-37 should be added. I also believe that the Su-27KUB should be added to the tech tree after the Yak-141.
@abdallah5906 even then itd be miles ahead of even the su-27SM3. Thrust vectoring, PESA, canards, better engines, etc. It isn't the first time a prototype aircraft was a top tier vehicle in the game. Itd be pretty cool to see.
I honestly always kinda figured that Gaijin would add the SU-37 as an event vehicle or premium since it was a test bed aircraft for thrust vectoring and then whatever major update follows the addition of the Terminator would include the regular tech tree and production model Flankers with TVC.
Он будет выдавать огромнейшие углы атаки, но только за один круг. Он не сможет удерживать нормальную скорость в ближнем бою и просто свалится в штопор( It will give huge angles of attack, but only for one circle. It will not be able to maintain normal speed in close combat and will simply fall into a spin.)
I rlly hope they will give it normal rate of climb and acceleration characteristics. Other flankers too. I think few here will argue that FM and flight-technical characteristics of flankers are underestimated, while those of its main opponents are often greatly overestimated. R-77 also need improvement, they are terrible.
I can count the modern 4th gen jets left on my fingers. Crazy thinking 5th gen will be coming soon ish... Fun fact, every country except China and USSR will get the F-35 😭. But every country will be able to get a 5th gen!
The Chinese have the j20 and j35 and the Russians have the su57, maybe the Mig 1.44/42(if gaijin allows), and in the near future the su75 (if the Russians finish it).
This 100%. Britain already got the best MIG-21. But I'm certain Gaijin will cheapen the SU-30 by adding it to UK too. Russia can't have have nice things in ARB.
calling it. by summer we will get the su30sm, f18 c and maybe the super hornet as a top tier fighter for the US. f2 for japan. bonus points for f18a as a squadron vehicle.
My favorite Flanker. Was reading up on this all day. Was good to see this. Hopefully they add this with the F18 along with anti radiation missiles. But tbh, I’d compare the f18 E/F with the 30SM instead of the F18C. But I could see Gaijin adding the F18 E/F with the Su35
They better give it the r73m, the current r73, even buffed, wouldnt be enough for the 30sm. The whole 1 turn dump and burn trick needs a more reliable missile to work.
This is sad, the update just came out and ppl arent even taking it in and are greedy for the next one and the next leaks. There will never be happy war players if we stay like this always wanting more
Maybe because this update completely powercrept the Su-27S/SM and F-15A/C, those countries also need to keep up, specially USSR since the fuckass R-77 is mid at best
@@seductive_fishstick8961 yeah well I play France and its funny how the US and Russia players are complaining about not being the center of the world for one update even though every single one before uve had the best jets 1nd even then u still want more its natural to want more but you nation's aren't asking gaijin or suggesting It to them but are demanding for it wich makes it alot less enjoyable having all in the community. I'm not having a go at you but I just find it sad ppl are already talking about the next update
MY FAVORITE FLANKER! What a perfect time to grind USSR. It's also very funny to think that Along with Russia, and China; the British could potentially get one as well since India operates them.
@@oz314 bad ❌ worse ❌ worst ❌ void ✅experience for sim. BUT AYE, ITS BETTER AS IT HAS BETTER WEAPONS! And proly better radar as well, if they implement it correctly.
Get the Mig23ML in the Christmas sale and play it in air sim mode and I promise if you’re good enough you’ll have all of the USSR tree before the next update. The Mig23ML br is 11.3 in sim and it’s so easy to seal club in.
@mainhalo117 already have it. Depending on what goes on sale I'll be grinding Germany or UK after I'm done with Russia. Hopefully either the Bison or Lazur M cause I'm a sucker for the Mig-21
>Heavy >Extremely manoeuvrable, the best at it >12 missiles >Very powerful PESA In theory, if the R-77 will be repaired, it could become the main disbalance of the patch, nothing can compare with it in close combat... Well, of course, if NATO fans don’t cry for nerf it again.
They will cry, they will cry and there’s no saving this thing from becoming about as mobile as a bomber and losing speed faster than the Su-34 with full real controls
@@marshall-yo5ho "close combat isn't gonna help" says the lil guy getting slapped by AIM120s launched far from 40kms because completely ignores RWR, LOL. Had many WVR fights and dogfights even at top tier using russian vehicles, so having such good performances would be great. Git gud before saying close combat isn't happening in the game, maybe try to survive more than 2 minutes.
i really think its the dev just let leak happen because i never see a game have so much leak all the time every year its not normal but a least we know what’s coming so its for the hype
"4 nAtIonS cANt nOT hAve 14.0" germany had a highest br of 13.0 against 13.7 of ALL other nations for almost a year, so ig other nations can wait since 14.0 aren't THAT dominant against 13.7 now
Gaijin literally does not care. Lets not pretend that they care. They're doing it for money and nothing else. One nation gets the flavour of the week vehicle so people GE the nation until gaijin gives the next meta vehicle to a different nation
Honestly an event vehicle SU-37 Terminator should come before any and all thrust vectoring models imo. Makes most sense to me and also gives Gaijin the advantage of making tons of $$ off the people who love the SU-37 [myself included honestly]
I am writing this comment to people who are already writing that Su30sm will be the best plane in the game... I don't want to disappoint you, but Thrust Vectoring, canards and some new IR missile mean absolutely nothing, in the fight against AIM120, which this Russian plane will get from space from a safe distance of over 30km... So either it will get new radar missiles capable of fighting at a distance of over 30km, and not only up to 10km, or it will mean as much as F15A when it entered, having weak Sparrows and no helmet, against Su27 with the best IR R73 missiles, the best R27ER and HMD... Don't get me wrong, I would also like Su30sm, but currently having Su27sm... I prefer to play F15e... and very much so... Russian planes are hopeless in BVR combat and either this will change, or Russian Main will continue to cry, especially when F/A-18C/E/F enters... which I am waiting for even
Wake me up when gaijin Add the Su-35s.. One of the best radar (An hybrid between PESA and AESA). TTW ratio with mid fuel to rival F-15E and Eurocucks. THRUST VECTORING... That shit going to be lit..
@@fqeagles21 Missile made to counter large non maneuverable planes at long range. What do you think it would be used for in WT? Beyond the occasional afk player.
@@HDREal and the US has the fastest the longest range in planes and missiles with the best radars, in game, and still have good maneuverability, they don’t need the 9x, and if they get it other, nations should get something just as good or better.
@iantownsend7092 none of that matters in a dogfight, why should one nation get thrust vectoring jets, thrust vectoring IR missiles and thrust vectoring ARH missiles? Make it make sense.
If we Russian mains get the su30sm then I speak for Chinese mains as well they need to give us the J-11b, it’s the perfect counter to the su30sm. The su30sm would dominate close range engagements while the J-11b will dominate long, take the su27sm give it even more powerful engines, lighter airframe, pesa radar, it still keeps its maw, and give it pl12, and pl15’s, paired with r-27’s and the pl8 family instead of the r-73 but it’s still only can use 10 missles
The SU-30SM will be bullied at close range its too big that thing should only focus on mid range engagements. Only the upgraded SU-27SMs would dominate close range
@ bro the su30sm has the same kit shit even better if given its r77-1 and r-74, parked with its thrust vectoring engines, and amazing radar it would be better then the su27sm
The Mig23ML is already a solid choice and probably the best premium to buy for a new player and is 100% the best premium for any sim players, it’s sim br is 11.3 at the moment which is insanely good.
The current state of this game is quite perplexing. With each update, it seems to cater exclusively to Russian interests, leaving many players frustrated. The United States desperately requires short-range air defense systems, particularly at the top tier, yet there is a blatant refusal to introduce essential assets like the SLAMRAAM, NASAMS, or Avenger. The anticipation for the F-18 Hornet raises questions about its contribution to the game, as it possesses the same armament as other top-tier American jets. Furthermore, the absence of America's Hellfire LIMA and fire-and-forget capabilities is concerning, especially with the inclusion of Fox 3 missiles. There are numerous tanks that could enhance the U.S. tech tree, yet War Thunder seems unwilling to incorporate any that would provide a strategic advantage. A prime example is the RDF LT, which pales in comparison to the BMD-4M, and even then, the modeling is subpar, presenting us with the least effective version of the RDF LT. Overall, the game has devolved into a farce, seemingly serving as a coping mechanism for Russian players facing challenges in Ukraine.
Lol I like how you bring ukraine here. U bet you one of those who think ukraine had any succeses in war. Delusional. And you don't need to talk nonsense, since you just like other brained usa fans, will cry untill IF su30sm add, will be nerfed to the ground. Since it's all you can do
Ah yes, as if US isn't dominating in air RB since years while Russia keep suffering unrealistic nerfs to their fighter jets FM, not to mention those R77 performances which are just bs, one of the worst if not the worst fox 3 at top tier. I can see if you're complaining about Pantsir in ground RB, but those are a problem because of the map size and spawns tbh. They wouldn't be as annoying as they are now if spawns and map size were better. I can also see why you'd complain about russian tanks, but again the "russian bias" many people claims is due to the fact that the shape of some russian tanks isn't modelled correctly which makes them as if its impossible to penetrate, but this is a problem you can find in similar shaped tanks which NATO nations have and there are ton of evidence about it, so again this isn't something intentionally made to give Russia an advantage. Early versions of F18 will be outdated when they'll be on live servers, just like the Su33 was already outdated. Probably they should add early F18 for any nation and subtech tree, but super hornet for US a long side with Su30 for Russia. Both Su30 and F18E irl are EW machines, so that's why it would make sense to delay the F18. It wouldn't make sense, from a marketing and game prospective, adding early F18 with Rafale and EF or adding F18E right now. Honestly we should hope they'll add an EW mechanic to the game when Su30 and F18E will be a thing.
@devisucarlo7922 You do realize that gaijin got caught in a scandal a few years back when it was discovered they had modifiers in the game files which literally made russian tanks bounce shells and not pen, more often than every other tank in the game too right? Your longwinded response means nothing to my 9 years playing the game, playing every nation and experiencing the reality of russian bias. It's not just a meme. Honestly, your whole response is just you making excuses and justifying why russia gets to have these advantages... you main russia for sure.
Finally a flanker with a working radar I guess
Probably be similar to the Su-34, hopefully has more DL channels.
@@MrNPC and HMD XD
su27sm radar isn't bad
@@sadfrog5787 2 data link at top tier, so true king
@@sadfrog5787 not reliable, slow, fairly easy to notch, not a lot of range, likes to not pick up targets in 1 pass
“It’s an SU30, orange wing tips”
well if i see orange wing tips on the su30, im just gonna j out. idont want to fight that old man
"I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE ENEMY"
Nah mission failed. Fly out of mission airspace..
Never thought id say this as a USA main. But i actually feel bad for Russian mains right now. The Typhoon and Rafale have hit them probably the hardest. I hope the Su-30SM is really good for their sake.
I’m not excited until I see it in game. You already know the snail will need the FM, give it regular R-77 for some reason, maybe even give it a 50% chance to spontaneously combust every 5 minutes
So real my friend
And energy bleed of a MiG-21SMT
@@sooryan_1018 And the aoa of the Su-25
I think its very likely we see this on the first update of 2025.
очень надеемся на это (we really hope so)
With the Super Hornet please ❤
@@fqeagles21 nah no Hornet just to annoy trooper
When does it happen
@@fqeagles21 The legacy Hornets should be first
I want to understand the enemy...
“You could’ve done that sooner”
Meanwhile in my Rafale..
"SALVATION!"
The update just came and content creators are alredy theorizing about the next one 😭
Its not a theory, its a leak
@@maxmax-lo7pj leaks always happen, like the one that happened 5-7 years ago abt the argentinian plane in the planes, its still not in the game
I mean mostly because now all the hype will really start because we are now starting to get the next generation of 4th gens, not to mention USSR hasn't had a good platform for a while and the Su-30SM will be just that
I just hope that there is an automatic option for the thrust vectoring. I already have 2/3 of my keyboard binded...
I am pretty sure thrust vectoring engine nozzle (except for VTOL/STOL aircraft like harrier, yak38/141 etc) are interlinked with the stick/pedals
@@mangosuppe8706 I have read that the thrust vectoring on the SU-30 is linked to the fly-by-wire system, but considering how inconsistent Gaijin is with realism vs arcade, it could be anything.
@XYVTN What they might do is make it a keybind to toggle thrust vectoring on and off, but again I don't know if that is possible in real life
@@mangosuppe8706 thrust vectoring is linked to fly-by-wirr system, so you don't need extra buttons binded
Can't wait for Thrust Vectoring Flanker 🥺
I think it has it
But they might not add it’s TVF capabilities for “BALANCE” bs
@@TylerJC40 They will get screamed at by the community.
Very unlikely that it isn’t added with thrust vectoring.
@@RienRocksit’s likely just going to be an animation similar to F4E slats and just have a curve of how effective it is
@@user-cs3qh1uv5y Animation? You’re confusing things.
Curving the effectiveness wouldn’t be anywhere near realistic. Again; screamed at by the community.
They normally don’t laze out on features like that though, so it should come to the game nicely.
I hope it will receive R-77-1 and R-74M (RVV-MD)
With AIM-120C-5 and AIM-9X Block I for F/A-18E and F-15E?
Remember though that BVVD said himself in dev Q&A that they don’t plan on adding those to improve the platforms effectiveness so they’ll probably just improve the current missiles performance and the performance of the platform they already slightly improved the R-73 and gave buffs to the Su-27s/sm
@@Iden_in_the_Rain Yes I guess thats what they will do. Considering how much they have delayed the F/A-18C
@@TylerJC40what was the change to the R-73?
@@Iden_in_the_Rain We aren't getting the Aim-9X this early
At this point we have completely leapfrogged the hornet and gone straight to the super hornet in terms of power
Super hornet try not to get mogged by the Rafale in every aspect challenge (impossible)
As if the release of the eurofighter and rafale wasn't already a clear sign the regular hornet has already been bypassed
I really hope they fix the Eurofighter’s radar.
USSR urge to have a Aircraft with BVR capabilities...
Imagine them giving:
Malaysian Su-30MKM to Japanese
Algerian Su-30MKA to French
Indian Su-30MKI to Bri'ish
Su-30MKK to Chinese
-Vietnamese Su-30MK2V to the USA-
like how they do with f16 lmao
yeah no thanks
Algerian are in Russian tree mig29smt has Algerian camo
all of them has the same al-31 engine.
France and japan don’t need a Su-30
About time i wait for someone to create a Sol 1 user skin for it when it comes out
Archangel starts to sound in the sky...
Happy christimas to all
if they model it correctly it will 100% be best dogfighter by far especially with r73
It's will be and will stay as the best dogfighter. Nothing beats su30 in a dogfight
@@cvnt-x5t hopefully the U.S. gets its AIM-9X
yes sure, however when planes like the eurofighter gets its iris-ts and the american jets get their aim 9x and the nose authority of the f18 it returns back to ground zero, maybe the top taken up by the euro
@ as long as everyone’s relatively balanced. No need for one nation to have superiority due to unavailability of weapons.
@abdallah5906 uh, yeah there are gonna be planes who can beat it
@MatAWG Almost all PESA's have additional mech scan since PESA wont requier massive active cooling system like AESA, which is mostly fixed and only top end advanced AESA today also have additinal mech scan. So i woudnt call this "hybrid" just a PESA with more wide angles.
N011M is not simply a PESA, but instead, it's a transition between PESA and AESA in that it adopts technologies from both: each transceiver on the antenna array of N011M has its own receiver amplifier, which is the same as AESA, and with noise level of 3dB, which is also in the same class of AESA arrays. However, for transmitting, N011M uses PESA technology in that a single Chelnok traveling-wave tube is used for EGSP-6A transmitter. There are three receiving channels for N011M.
Su57/F22- december update 2025
I want to understand the enemy
For Sweden I think they will add the gripen e when they add meteors
i installed war thunder for the sole goal of getting the su30sm, i would love for it to come ❤
Good luck
@@jaredbeti1413 ive been playing for over a year and i did get to top tier f2p :)
@dsg4500Damn. I had to buy MiG-21S for 24$ last year to get to top tier lol
@ good fucking shit bro
The Su-27SM should be upgraded to SM3 standard IMO with R-77-1 and maybeee R-73M. The Su-30SM would also be welcomed with the same air to air armament, but i feel like the MiG-29M/M2/K, MiG-35, and Su-37 should be added. I also believe that the Su-27KUB should be added to the tech tree after the Yak-141.
Right idk why they love to skip planes so much
Su37 is a prototype
@abdallah5906 even then itd be miles ahead of even the su-27SM3. Thrust vectoring, PESA, canards, better engines, etc. It isn't the first time a prototype aircraft was a top tier vehicle in the game. Itd be pretty cool to see.
Well if Russia gets R77-1 and R73M, then NATO jets should get AIM-120 C-5 and AIM 9X block 1, IRIS-T, MICA IR and ASRAAM
I honestly always kinda figured that Gaijin would add the SU-37 as an event vehicle or premium since it was a test bed aircraft for thrust vectoring and then whatever major update follows the addition of the Terminator would include the regular tech tree and production model Flankers with TVC.
I would love to see the Su-30 come with the R77M and its extensive CAS capabilities
not getting those for awhile, 77m is only employed on the su-57 so far
@@marshall-yo5hoWhat is the difference between the 77, 77-1 and 77M, the M is better in every way and drops the grid fins doesn’t it?
@@marshall-yo5ho why that ? its gonna be at least somewhat competitive against amrams and mica's And Americans will for sure receive the aim 120c
@Alexx_2719sim 120 C7 are on par with R77-1,AIM 120 D with R-77M
@@fqeagles21 120D are a lot better than 77M...
The Su-30SM will be the best dog fighter!
Он будет выдавать огромнейшие углы атаки, но только за один круг. Он не сможет удерживать нормальную скорость в ближнем бою и просто свалится в штопор( It will give huge angles of attack, but only for one circle. It will not be able to maintain normal speed in close combat and will simply fall into a spin.)
@@МихаилКошелев-р8щ Согласен
why not a cat fighter?🤔
@@PHENOMAS_YT Already scared
@@МихаилКошелев-р8щshould be enough for r77/73
2:05 No, it use AL-31FP engines, who is same thing as AL-31F, but with tvc
I hope they don’t put it in the bomber line
Yeah me too. I hope they put it as the successor to the Su-27sm
I hope it's flight model will give it the ability to pull a Mihaly
I rlly hope they will give it normal rate of climb and acceleration characteristics. Other flankers too. I think few here will argue that FM and flight-technical characteristics of flankers are underestimated, while those of its main opponents are often greatly overestimated.
R-77 also need improvement, they are terrible.
now i found the reason why the sky was speaking latin
The paralel plane whose is a close response to su30sm in the american tech tree is the F-14D super tomcat, the super hornet are farther to add
I can count the modern 4th gen jets left on my fingers. Crazy thinking 5th gen will be coming soon ish...
Fun fact, every country except China and USSR will get the F-35 😭. But every country will be able to get a 5th gen!
The Chinese have the j20 and j35 and the Russians have the su57, maybe the Mig 1.44/42(if gaijin allows), and in the near future the su75 (if the Russians finish it).
su 30 mki should be in th russian tech tree not british even though its indian
Kind true
No
This 100%. Britain already got the best MIG-21. But I'm certain Gaijin will cheapen the SU-30 by adding it to UK too. Russia can't have have nice things in ARB.
Unlikely to happen
@@TylerJC40 better no if they put the su30 mki in Britain I will quit paying the snaio
Depending on the source. There seems to be conflicting reports on the Su-30SM getting thrust vectoring. The Su-30SM2 should however.
It better perform like Mister X's plane 😂
😂😂😂😂
calling it. by summer we will get the su30sm, f18 c and maybe the super hornet as a top tier fighter for the US. f2 for japan. bonus points for f18a as a squadron vehicle.
My favorite Flanker. Was reading up on this all day. Was good to see this. Hopefully they add this with the F18 along with anti radiation missiles. But tbh, I’d compare the f18 E/F with the 30SM instead of the F18C. But I could see Gaijin adding the F18 E/F with the Su35
Well at least the moving radar should be for the captor as well
Can gripen-E be added soon?
They better give it the r73m, the current r73, even buffed, wouldnt be enough for the 30sm. The whole 1 turn dump and burn trick needs a more reliable missile to work.
they will have to give the 9x, asraam, iris-t etc to nato if they do that.
This is sad, the update just came out and ppl arent even taking it in and are greedy for the next one and the next leaks. There will never be happy war players if we stay like this always wanting more
Maybe because this update completely powercrept the Su-27S/SM and F-15A/C, those countries also need to keep up, specially USSR since the fuckass R-77 is mid at best
hey bro some of us dont have france or germany so we got basically nothing, obviously we are gonna just be looking forward to the next patch
@@seductive_fishstick8961 yeah well I play France and its funny how the US and Russia players are complaining about not being the center of the world for one update even though every single one before uve had the best jets 1nd even then u still want more its natural to want more but you nation's aren't asking gaijin or suggesting It to them but are demanding for it wich makes it alot less enjoyable having all in the community. I'm not having a go at you but I just find it sad ppl are already talking about the next update
@@whiskersthecatboi mid at best? It's horrible at best
@@plex2109 yeah it’s literally just a MICA with worse range
Got plenty to grind for right now but Ill welcome this jet any time.
i hope the flight model will be finaly normal unlike with su27
I should expect US tech tree to get the Patriot missile.
MY FAVORITE FLANKER! What a perfect time to grind USSR.
It's also very funny to think that Along with Russia, and China; the British could potentially get one as well since India operates them.
That would mess up sim so bad
@@oz314 bad ❌ worse ❌ worst ❌ void ✅experience for sim. BUT AYE, ITS BETTER AS IT HAS BETTER WEAPONS! And proly better radar as well, if they implement it correctly.
Hopefully not, otherwise nobody would need to grind anything but UK, which would be just bs.
Get the Mig23ML in the Christmas sale and play it in air sim mode and I promise if you’re good enough you’ll have all of the USSR tree before the next update. The Mig23ML br is 11.3 in sim and it’s so easy to seal club in.
@mainhalo117 already have it. Depending on what goes on sale I'll be grinding Germany or UK after I'm done with Russia.
Hopefully either the Bison or Lazur M cause I'm a sucker for the Mig-21
noone is as good as you Mat!!! we love you man
Really like the su30 but i hope they don't forget the mig 31
1:45 why i started laughing
Kinda excited to be able to notch while keeping a lock because not we can do sum cool BVR stuff
"Its over with this next shot"
>Heavy
>Extremely manoeuvrable, the best at it
>12 missiles
>Very powerful PESA
In theory, if the R-77 will be repaired, it could become the main disbalance of the patch, nothing can compare with it in close combat... Well, of course, if NATO fans don’t cry for nerf it again.
close combat isn't really gonna help you in war thunder, unless you can BVR, it will still get dogged on
They will cry, they will cry and there’s no saving this thing from becoming about as mobile as a bomber and losing speed faster than the Su-34 with full real controls
@@marshall-yo5ho "close combat isn't gonna help" says the lil guy getting slapped by AIM120s launched far from 40kms because completely ignores RWR, LOL.
Had many WVR fights and dogfights even at top tier using russian vehicles, so having such good performances would be great. Git gud before saying close combat isn't happening in the game, maybe try to survive more than 2 minutes.
i really think its the dev just let leak happen because i never see a game have so much leak all the time every year its not normal but a least we know what’s coming so its for the hype
"4 nAtIonS cANt nOT hAve 14.0" germany had a highest br of 13.0 against 13.7 of ALL other nations for almost a year, so ig other nations can wait since 14.0 aren't THAT dominant against 13.7 now
Ahh the classic “bbbbut we suffered for less than a year so everyone else must suffer now”
@@mainhalo117 classic excuse for the balance shift "lEt uS hAvE fUn"
@@DrClef_1 bro it’s a game, it’s supposed to be fun XD
@@mainhalo117 I was agreeing with but aight
Gaijin literally does not care. Lets not pretend that they care. They're doing it for money and nothing else. One nation gets the flavour of the week vehicle so people GE the nation until gaijin gives the next meta vehicle to a different nation
When is the next update supposed to be released?
The su30sm can also carry the r37m as well if I am not mistaken
As i understand it is only for Su-30SM2 with new engines from Su-35 and (maybe or maybe not) Bars radar replaced with Irbis radar from Su-35.
@@biochemist3712 the only engines with vector in the ruaf is the al41 no?
@@erikaitsumi1517, there is also AL31PF for Su-30SM and Su-30MKI.
I wonder how they will implement the trust vectoring engines
Wild that we still don't have the f-18
@Bryan1483 soon
Su-30 non-canard and TVC would be first, or should be first, before we get the more advanced Su-30SM and 30SM2 models. Su-30MKI for Britain.
Honestly an event vehicle SU-37 Terminator should come before any and all thrust vectoring models imo. Makes most sense to me and also gives Gaijin the advantage of making tons of $$ off the people who love the SU-37 [myself included honestly]
If thats true, its time to "i want to underythe enermy"
Su 30 mkl would be great .
gaijin will add everything before they give us the 27SM2/SM3 variants lol
Su27SM is practically just a mix of the 3, only the SM3 got the upgraded engines and the double pylon R77s
27SM2 doesn't exist.
What about su 30 mki?
Finally a flanker with a wso so my vws prez mod actually makes sense😂
Yall think it’s gonna be under the SU27 in game? I still grinding it
What’s with all these updates back to back so quick
Su-30 WW
Its actually my Favorit plane😁
Su-30MKI
I am writing this comment to people who are already writing that Su30sm will be the best plane in the game... I don't want to disappoint you, but Thrust Vectoring, canards and some new IR missile mean absolutely nothing, in the fight against AIM120, which this Russian plane will get from space from a safe distance of over 30km... So either it will get new radar missiles capable of fighting at a distance of over 30km, and not only up to 10km, or it will mean as much as F15A when it entered, having weak Sparrows and no helmet, against Su27 with the best IR R73 missiles, the best R27ER and HMD... Don't get me wrong, I would also like Su30sm, but currently having Su27sm... I prefer to play F15e... and very much so... Russian planes are hopeless in BVR combat and either this will change, or Russian Main will continue to cry, especially when F/A-18C/E/F enters... which I am waiting for even
Archange intensifies
GAIJIN GIVE ME THE SU30SM AND MY LIFE IS YOURSSSSSS
We can expect for the mig 29's to stay irrelevant no matter the update.
inb4 Su-35S & MiG-35
And yeah su 30sm and su 35 two of them left i guess
expect it to be Mig-21 on steroids lmao
Yay so glad to never be able to play this with me sitting at 1.0 Rus air and not enough sanity to grind
Cope
F/A-18 HAS TO COME WITH THIS
Why already the SM version tho
because they added F15E, Eurofighter, and Rafale, now USSR needs the 30SM before they even got to add the 30M2
SU-30SM before gta 6?
Wake me up when gaijin Add the Su-35s.. One of the best radar (An hybrid between PESA and AESA). TTW ratio with mid fuel to rival F-15E and Eurocucks. THRUST VECTORING... That shit going to be lit..
The only weapon that i want Is the R37M
Why the M, the Normal R37 is not even in game, weapons come in steps
Why, it would be highly useless.
@@fennoman9241 well not quite,but First they should add the normale R-37 later on the M
@@fqeagles21 Missile made to counter large non maneuverable planes at long range. What do you think it would be used for in WT? Beyond the occasional afk player.
@@fennoman9241 Nevertheless, this missile shot down a low-flying Su-27 information from Military Watch Magazine
If Russia gets their super maneuverability aircraft, the U.S. needs AIM-9X
No they don’t😂
@ definitely do, every other nation has their high maneuverability planes and +40g missiles. It’s gonna happen don’t worry 👍
@@HDREal and the US has the fastest the longest range in planes and missiles with the best radars, in game, and still have good maneuverability, they don’t need the 9x, and if they get it other, nations should get something just as good or better.
@iantownsend7092 none of that matters in a dogfight, why should one nation get thrust vectoring jets, thrust vectoring IR missiles and thrust vectoring ARH missiles? Make it make sense.
🤡
R-37M when ;(
If we Russian mains get the su30sm then I speak for Chinese mains as well they need to give us the J-11b, it’s the perfect counter to the su30sm. The su30sm would dominate close range engagements while the J-11b will dominate long, take the su27sm give it even more powerful engines, lighter airframe, pesa radar, it still keeps its maw, and give it pl12, and pl15’s, paired with r-27’s and the pl8 family instead of the r-73 but it’s still only can use 10 missles
The SU-30SM will be bullied at close range its too big that thing should only focus on mid range engagements. Only the upgraded SU-27SMs would dominate close range
@ bro the su30sm has the same kit shit even better if given its r77-1 and r-74, parked with its thrust vectoring engines, and amazing radar it would be better then the su27sm
The J-11b its close to the Su-35s ad the only that it do better than the Su-35 its the missile. It also don't have Thrust Vectoring.
Please, gaijin, give it the R37M, the better pheonix basically for russia with more range its time russia had the range advantage
Ace combat players lore :
Can you call it as a "leak" when you know that it is going to come very soon?
I mean is that not what a “leak” is lmao?
so~ Su-30MKI for the Brits/Indian's??
glad the mig 23 is gonna b on sell
It's gonna be absolute dogshit once added ingame knowing the negative Russian bias gaijin has lately
I wonder wich plane will the russians get as their top tier premium
The Mig23ML is already a solid choice and probably the best premium to buy for a new player and is 100% the best premium for any sim players, it’s sim br is 11.3 at the moment which is insanely good.
Это правда, лучше не будет, могут только предтоповый дать, он будет играться так же плохо как бедолага ф20
Жду ракеты среднего-ближнего боя на нём
Y el mig 25 o el 31 que todos esperamos vuelan por su ausencia. Y en cambio nos dan otro su que nadie quiere.
The current state of this game is quite perplexing. With each update, it seems to cater exclusively to Russian interests, leaving many players frustrated. The United States desperately requires short-range air defense systems, particularly at the top tier, yet there is a blatant refusal to introduce essential assets like the SLAMRAAM, NASAMS, or Avenger. The anticipation for the F-18 Hornet raises questions about its contribution to the game, as it possesses the same armament as other top-tier American jets. Furthermore, the absence of America's Hellfire LIMA and fire-and-forget capabilities is concerning, especially with the inclusion of Fox 3 missiles. There are numerous tanks that could enhance the U.S. tech tree, yet War Thunder seems unwilling to incorporate any that would provide a strategic advantage. A prime example is the RDF LT, which pales in comparison to the BMD-4M, and even then, the modeling is subpar, presenting us with the least effective version of the RDF LT. Overall, the game has devolved into a farce, seemingly serving as a coping mechanism for Russian players facing challenges in Ukraine.
Always has been, that’s why I just watch and rarely play, I play WW2 tiers
Absolute facts.
Lol I like how you bring ukraine here. U bet you one of those who think ukraine had any succeses in war. Delusional.
And you don't need to talk nonsense, since you just like other brained usa fans, will cry untill IF su30sm add, will be nerfed to the ground. Since it's all you can do
Ah yes, as if US isn't dominating in air RB since years while Russia keep suffering unrealistic nerfs to their fighter jets FM, not to mention those R77 performances which are just bs, one of the worst if not the worst fox 3 at top tier.
I can see if you're complaining about Pantsir in ground RB, but those are a problem because of the map size and spawns tbh. They wouldn't be as annoying as they are now if spawns and map size were better.
I can also see why you'd complain about russian tanks, but again the "russian bias" many people claims is due to the fact that the shape of some russian tanks isn't modelled correctly which makes them as if its impossible to penetrate, but this is a problem you can find in similar shaped tanks which NATO nations have and there are ton of evidence about it, so again this isn't something intentionally made to give Russia an advantage.
Early versions of F18 will be outdated when they'll be on live servers, just like the Su33 was already outdated. Probably they should add early F18 for any nation and subtech tree, but super hornet for US a long side with Su30 for Russia. Both Su30 and F18E irl are EW machines, so that's why it would make sense to delay the F18. It wouldn't make sense, from a marketing and game prospective, adding early F18 with Rafale and EF or adding F18E right now. Honestly we should hope they'll add an EW mechanic to the game when Su30 and F18E will be a thing.
@devisucarlo7922 You do realize that gaijin got caught in a scandal a few years back when it was discovered they had modifiers in the game files which literally made russian tanks bounce shells and not pen, more often than every other tank in the game too right?
Your longwinded response means nothing to my 9 years playing the game, playing every nation and experiencing the reality of russian bias. It's not just a meme.
Honestly, your whole response is just you making excuses and justifying why russia gets to have these advantages... you main russia for sure.
1st they need to fix the SU 27s and Mig 29s flightmodels
LoL and now SU 30 sm but no F-18
My favourite russian aircraft finally :')
I hope F18 then otherwise I WILL GO FUCKING CRAZY
"4+" heh