I’d have to imagine Scranton is on the short list of corridors that Amtrak wants. You’ve said the benefits yourself; the line is all state owned, doesn’t have the burden that comes with class 1’s owned lines, and would be fairly easy to schedule and work with.
Wooooo! Always look forward to a new Cut-off vid. Not to mention when its such good news! Seriously enjoy these so much, Chuck. Thanks for putting this series together. Can't wait to have trains back on that superhighway of a railroad.
i grew up in the Poconos, if this train was here sooner it would be so easier to travel, especially also for my family as well since we have relatives in New York, and of course the endless amount of commuters that spend almost two hours each direction on route 80 through Jersey, I'll keep my fingers crossed for the development of this! we don't have enough mixed use of transport in the United States, and I love seeing these new transit projects being promoted :)
Thanks for the update on this project. I am hoping that it happens for Scranton to NYC. Hopefully then Amtrak will restore service to Binghamton, NY too.
Hey Chuck, Thank You very much for that updated information on the Lackawanna Cut off Service by Amtrak! I Do Hope that it Moves Forward and Quickly! It's WAY OVERDUE!!!! The Thing is: It's Conrail Fault that Passenger Train Service was Discontinued in the Beginning. Also Chuck, I Been hearing that they are going to Restore Train Service from New York to Scranton, PA for way over a Decade!!!! I Do Hope that this Project comes Through and People can Travel from New York to Scranton, PA Once Again and Hopefully to Binghamton, NY as Well. Let's look at this Point, shall we? It Finally Finished the Grand Central Madison Station for the Long Island Railroad to Enter! Finally Finished! It Took 10 years to Complete! It's Way too long!!!!! Ten years just to lay down 10 miles of Track? Unbelievable. The Tunnel has been Built since the early 70's therefore the Bi-Level Cars cannot fix in the new Tunnel. Just very Piss Poor planning on their part! The upper level of the tunnel has been used by the New York City Transit Authority Number 6 Subway line. And has been for years. It took that long to get the Long Island Railroad to finally Reach Grand Central Madison Station!!!! So Chuck, let's see how long this Project will actually take place and see if a Person can actually purchase a Train Ticket to Ride from New York Penn Station to Scranton, PA. It will be amazing if it becomes a Reality!!!! If & When! Once Again, Thank You for that information Video! 🚂🚃🚃🚃📷🎥🏍️💨🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
I wonder if NJT wants a study on upgrades to their lines to support more amtrak service. That would just be a few simulations which shouldn't be 2m+ Ideally amtrak picks 1 route and plans around increase service shortly to 7/9RT daily. Every 2 hours could mean first train leaves Scranton at 6am, NYC at 8am. Last one leaving Scranton at 6PM or 10PM while the last leaves NYC at 8PM or midnight. The odd numbers of round trips mean that every 4th day each set will end in NYC for upkeep.
That would be the thing. If service can be increased and upgrade the lines in which Amtrak would need to use NJT Tracks; then it can make things easier. No doubt infrastructure added could reduce travel times, but besides the frequency, we need the service to be reliable/robust to deal with the harsh elements that the Pocono’s get hit with (most especially when bad weather hits like heavy torrential rainfall and most especially blizzards).
Following with interest, it's always great to see old lines come to life. Here on Vancouver Island in Canada we have our "E&N" railway that just passed a deadline for funding this month, with nothing announced, but there's still a chance we might get rail back here.
Chuck, I just recently found your series and have watched a number of your videos. Cripes, I admire your tenacity, passion, and encyclopedic knowledge of he Cut-Off and I find this subject utterly fascinating. I grew up on Long Island and used to drive under, admire, and wonder about the Delaware Water Gap Viaduct on my way to college in Cortland, NY. I now live in Norwalk, Connecticut, and am luckily only a short walk from a routinely serviced Metro-North station and an Amtrak hub in Stamford. The wife and I are huge Yankees fans and try to attend as many games with the big club as possible. We can already catch a train to the Bronx with ease and when we are feeling adventurous can take the train to Somerset/Bridgewater to catch the Double-A (AA) team. Certainly not holding my breath, but man, it would be something else to be able to get - at some point - from CT via NYC to Scranton to catch a Triple-A (AAA) Scranton Railriders game without having to drive. We've in the past made the trip to a few games and made a weekend of it; just speaking for us, even just a couple of trains a day would be adequate. Don't screw this up, New Jersey Transit! Thanks for sharing your hard work. Looking forward to future videos!
Thank you. Actually, we will also need the FRA and Amtrak not to "screw it up," although we will, as you point out, need NJ Transit's cooperation as well.
Hey, that’s the last train ride I took, my mom lives in So. Norwalk & we took my son into Grand Central last Nov. met family for dinner. He loved it. 🚂
Thanks for the update. You gave a good explanation on what to expect and the possible roadblocks to restoring service. Years ago I was evolved with a group of people that went through a similar experience. The south Jersey service between Lindenwald, NJ and Atlantic City, Ocean City, Wildwood and Cape May was threatened with being shut down. Eventually that is what happened but at least in our case the tracks and some freight service survived so that it was somewhat easier to restart service to Atlantic City. The rise in the interest in casino gambling and a better way to get there from Philadelphia and New Jersey stations eventually got the line rebuilt all the way from Atlantic City to the junction with the Northeast Amtrak main line. Originally both Amtrak and New Jersey Transit operated service over the line. However with the increased competition from nearby states reduced the need for Amtrak to run trains beyond Philadelphia and NJT is now the only user on the line. We also never were able to restore service to the other southern towns on the old service due to cost. But the good news is NJT and Amtrak have a history of working together to establish a combined local and intercity service on a joint line. I hope the officials of both Amtrak and NJT can get together and work out a similar agreement on restoring service over the cut off to Scranton.
Yay for an update! Very good question of what New Jersey transit wants to study. That should have been specified when they said they wanted another study. I am looking forward to when there is activity to bring that bridge back into service while another video is made.
The planned Amtrak service for the cutoff is great, and work taking place with the Andover area and Roseville are steps in the right direction. All highways between the New York City metro area & Scranton are not the answer anymore. Another corridor would be Philadelphia to Scranton and Washington to Scranton are I-476 being at the saturation point and the other highways are just too slow.
Philly to Syracuse via Scranton & Binghamton needs to be the eventual goal on that corridor (same for the NYC route someday), perfect routing to take cars off the highways.(I also think NY State needs to work with the Suskie on Binghamton to Port Jervis service, and Syracuse needs its regional rail system back (As does NEPA, but thats a whole other fight)
As always, thanks Chuck to you and your assistance, for your hard work and dedication to these updates. Fingers crossed 🤞things move forward quickly 🙏.
I'm a big rail fan. But, honestly, we should be building MagLev trains in this country. Scranton to NYC in 1 hour on a dedicated line that runs down the median of Interstate highways, expanding the commuter range of NYC and getting cars off of the highways.
thanks for the update! i really hope this happens and the cutoff is restored, it is so rare to see an abandonned line come back to life. what happens if the FRA does not select the scranton line as part of the infrastructure bill? would this make the project dead in the water?
Thank you Chuck for your persistence, frequent communication and thorough knowledge about the Cut-off. I'm really excited about going to Scranton and NYC by rail. Your hard work is much appreciated.
Great presentation! Yr very knowledgeable and i really am looking forward to the next update. It appears this great endeavor will eventually come to fruition. Keep up the good work 👍
This is a Goodmorning update. Some cool information we got here thanks for sharing! Could NJ Transit want to study feasible train stations on the rest of the cut off for domestic NJ Transit routes, instead of Andover and Blairstown being the only two (amtraks two).
I hope that in the future that they will electrify the line so that commuter/ regional trains can accelerate and decelerate faster. Also track speed should one day be 100mph.
It would be great if there were no delays, anti passenger train service critics, and beaurecratic delays which beaurecrats love to do. Once the cutoff work is finished and passenger train service between Scranton & New York City is running. It will help lighten up traffic on I-80 and other highways.
The simulations that NJ Transit ran identified the Summit stop as a bottleneck. I agree. I would like to see a Summit stop at some point, although it would have to be sometime much later on after service restarted.
@@LackawannaCutOff If it's a capacity issue they should build a third track from where three tracking ends east of Millburn up to Summit. They already want to three track up to Millburn, so why not go further.
Are the concrete viaducts at Paulins Kill and the Delaware River still in good enough shape to be used again for this service? Though I know it would involve Norfolk Southern north and west of Scranton, but would love to see the service go beyond Scranton to Binghamton and Buffalo too.
Better late than never. Yes, Andover/Newton will definitely have NJ Transit service to NYC. Time will tell as to whether Amtrak will join the party also, although currently Amtrak is proposing to stop at Blairstown on the Cut-Off, not Andover.
I know this won’t be a popular opinion but I have to ask it. Why Scranton? I can see NYC to the Pocono’s, that’s where the commuters are. I live in the Scranton area and I don’t see it.
@@LackawannaCutOff running through trains from Springfield, Massachusetts and hopefully electrifying the Hartford line, and through run trains out of New York City to Scranton Pennsylvania
The line to Andover, a distance of ONLY EIGHT MILES, has taken THIRTEEN YEARS so far, and they say that it will be another THREE MORE years to complete this! Our federal government is like that Jabba the Hut character in the movie Star Wars........too big and too fat to even get out of it's own way. This isn't even going to happen until 2045 at the earliest. The entire Lackawanna Cutoff only took three years to build in the early 1900's. Ridiculous!
What's going to happen at MP 47.0 (West Port Morris) with the Brooklyn Rd. crossing? Will it be a crossing at grade or will the underpass be put back in?
The released Amtrak study is pretty sad. With minor speed improvements, they could have a single trainset provide service every six hours, allowing for service every three hours with both trainsets. Therefore, with only an additional trainset, they could provide service every two hours. Also, running dual-mode locomotives and not even studying electrification to reduce travel time and increase reliability makes no sense.
As a "Valley" native, this will never happen. The Plan has been out there since the '90's and has gone nowhere, sorry folks. The closest "possibility" would be a NJ Transit line to East Stroudsburg, this has been a a part of this "plan" also from the '90's. Several left and right politicians have dangled this "carrot" and always stiffs the residents of northern NJ and NE PA. Might as well build a church and start praying.
@@LackawannaCutOff SMH, a native of NE PA, guess you're one of the river jumpers from Jersey. This situation is not only dead in the water, the multiple rider studies from Scranton to NYC showed no cost viability, from the "Gap", I pray you know where that is to NYC, possible but, only on the NJ Transit end, AMTRAK is not going to get approval for Scranton to NYC, especially in this economy.
@@LackawannaCutOff if the government and the socialist elites would st as t out of the way aviation and ground transport would be better off. That has nothing to do with route choice of the rail what volume of business it would generate.
As a Scranton native this gets me extremely excited. I would love to visit my family by rail
I’d have to imagine Scranton is on the short list of corridors that Amtrak wants.
You’ve said the benefits yourself; the line is all state owned, doesn’t have the burden that comes with class 1’s owned lines, and would be fairly easy to schedule and work with.
Can’t wait to see this line up and running.
Don’t hold your breath.
@@cmdrflake, why?
Wooooo! Always look forward to a new Cut-off vid. Not to mention when its such good news! Seriously enjoy these so much, Chuck. Thanks for putting this series together. Can't wait to have trains back on that superhighway of a railroad.
Glad you like them!
i grew up in the Poconos, if this train was here sooner it would be so easier to travel, especially also for my family as well since we have relatives in New York, and of course the endless amount of commuters that spend almost two hours each direction on route 80 through Jersey, I'll keep my fingers crossed for the development of this! we don't have enough mixed use of transport in the United States, and I love seeing these new transit projects being promoted :)
Maybe it will happen sooner if NYC goes ahead with that Congestion Charge of $23 to enter downtown.
Thanks for the update on this project. I am hoping that it happens for Scranton to NYC. Hopefully then Amtrak will restore service to Binghamton, NY too.
I think they will not too far in the future, that may be the second phase of the project, ESPA is studying it. I hope binghamton gets a rail service
Nothing makes my day more than seeing there is a Cutoff update. 👍
Very glad to hear that!
Hey Chuck, Thank You very much for that updated information on the Lackawanna Cut off Service by Amtrak! I Do Hope that it Moves Forward and Quickly! It's WAY OVERDUE!!!! The Thing is: It's Conrail Fault that Passenger Train Service was Discontinued in the Beginning. Also Chuck, I Been hearing that they are going to Restore Train Service from New York to Scranton, PA for way over a Decade!!!! I Do Hope that this Project comes Through and People can Travel from New York to Scranton, PA Once Again and Hopefully to Binghamton, NY as Well. Let's look at this Point, shall we? It Finally Finished the Grand Central Madison Station for the Long Island Railroad to Enter! Finally Finished! It Took 10 years to Complete! It's Way too long!!!!! Ten years just to lay down 10 miles of Track? Unbelievable. The Tunnel has been Built since the early 70's therefore the Bi-Level Cars cannot fix in the new Tunnel. Just very Piss Poor planning on their part! The upper level of the tunnel has been used by the New York City Transit Authority Number 6 Subway line. And has been for years. It took that long to get the Long Island Railroad to finally Reach Grand Central Madison Station!!!! So Chuck, let's see how long this Project will actually take place and see if a Person can actually purchase a Train Ticket to Ride from New York Penn Station to Scranton, PA. It will be amazing if it becomes a Reality!!!! If & When! Once Again, Thank You for that information Video! 🚂🚃🚃🚃📷🎥🏍️💨🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
Another great report Chuck... knowing how politicians operate, I'm not surprised that we're wait for someone to get rich!
Nobody has gotten rich yet on the Cut-Off, except Jerry Turco, and he died broke!
I wonder if NJT wants a study on upgrades to their lines to support more amtrak service. That would just be a few simulations which shouldn't be 2m+
Ideally amtrak picks 1 route and plans around increase service shortly to 7/9RT daily. Every 2 hours could mean first train leaves Scranton at 6am, NYC at 8am. Last one leaving Scranton at 6PM or 10PM while the last leaves NYC at 8PM or midnight.
The odd numbers of round trips mean that every 4th day each set will end in NYC for upkeep.
I hope electrification is involved with that plan..
No, the extension of electrification beyond Dover is not planned.
@@JoeyLovesTrains that’s unlikely to happen because NJT has no interest in expanding wires
@@LackawannaCutOff I'm pushing for electrification.
That would be the thing. If service can be increased and upgrade the lines in which Amtrak would need to use NJT Tracks; then it can make things easier. No doubt infrastructure added could reduce travel times, but besides the frequency, we need the service to be reliable/robust to deal with the harsh elements that the Pocono’s get hit with (most especially when bad weather hits like heavy torrential rainfall and most especially blizzards).
Following with interest, it's always great to see old lines come to life. Here on Vancouver Island in Canada we have our "E&N" railway that just passed a deadline for funding this month, with nothing announced, but there's still a chance we might get rail back here.
Chuck, I just recently found your series and have watched a number of your videos. Cripes, I admire your tenacity, passion, and encyclopedic knowledge of he Cut-Off and I find this subject utterly fascinating. I grew up on Long Island and used to drive under, admire, and wonder about the Delaware Water Gap Viaduct on my way to college in Cortland, NY. I now live in Norwalk, Connecticut, and am luckily only a short walk from a routinely serviced Metro-North station and an Amtrak hub in Stamford. The wife and I are huge Yankees fans and try to attend as many games with the big club as possible. We can already catch a train to the Bronx with ease and when we are feeling adventurous can take the train to Somerset/Bridgewater to catch the Double-A (AA) team. Certainly not holding my breath, but man, it would be something else to be able to get - at some point - from CT via NYC to Scranton to catch a Triple-A (AAA) Scranton Railriders game without having to drive. We've in the past made the trip to a few games and made a weekend of it; just speaking for us, even just a couple of trains a day would be adequate. Don't screw this up, New Jersey Transit! Thanks for sharing your hard work. Looking forward to future videos!
Thank you. Actually, we will also need the FRA and Amtrak not to "screw it up," although we will, as you point out, need NJ Transit's cooperation as well.
Hey, that’s the last train ride I took, my mom lives in So. Norwalk & we took my son into Grand Central last Nov. met family for dinner. He loved it. 🚂
Thanks for the update. You gave a good explanation on what to expect and the possible roadblocks to restoring service. Years ago I was evolved with a group of people that went through a similar experience. The south Jersey service between Lindenwald, NJ and Atlantic City, Ocean City, Wildwood and Cape May was threatened with being shut down. Eventually that is what happened but at least in our case the tracks and some freight service survived so that it was somewhat easier to restart service to Atlantic City. The rise in the interest in casino gambling and a better way to get there from Philadelphia and New Jersey stations eventually got the line rebuilt all the way from Atlantic City to the junction with the Northeast Amtrak main line. Originally both Amtrak and New Jersey Transit operated service over the line. However with the increased competition from nearby states reduced the need for Amtrak to run trains beyond Philadelphia and NJT is now the only user on the line. We also never were able to restore service to the other southern towns on the old service due to cost. But the good news is NJT and Amtrak have a history of working together to establish a combined local and intercity service on a joint line. I hope the officials of both Amtrak and NJT can get together and work out a similar agreement on restoring service over the cut off to Scranton.
Yay for an update! Very good question of what New Jersey transit wants to study. That should have been specified when they said they wanted another study.
I am looking forward to when there is activity to bring that bridge back into service while another video is made.
The planned Amtrak service for the cutoff is great, and work taking place with the Andover area and Roseville are steps in the right direction. All highways between the New York City metro area & Scranton are not the answer anymore. Another corridor would be Philadelphia to Scranton and Washington to Scranton are I-476 being at the saturation point and the other highways are just too slow.
Philly to Syracuse via Scranton & Binghamton needs to be the eventual goal on that corridor (same for the NYC route someday), perfect routing to take cars off the highways.(I also think NY State needs to work with the Suskie on Binghamton to Port Jervis service, and Syracuse needs its regional rail system back (As does NEPA, but thats a whole other fight)
Scranton to Philadelphia is far-fetched. And I don't see the passenger volume to justify it.
LCO Channel Updates are a great way to end a Monday!!! ❤
Thank you!
@@LackawannaCutOff What if Amtrak shares Passenger Rail Service in the future with the excursions at Steamtown?
It annoying there not planning to use the Tobyhanna station.
Make 0 sense with mt Pocono stop
Isn’t that a RR Museum now?
Good to hear that the messages to Gov. Murphy had the intended effect. I’m glad I could do my small part
Thank you for doing that! It definitely helped!
As always, thanks Chuck to you and your assistance, for your hard work and dedication to these updates. Fingers crossed 🤞things move forward quickly 🙏.
Much appreciated.
I have been watching your videos and updates for years...A BIG THANK YOU for all you do Chuck!
Thank you! I appreciate that.
I'm a big rail fan. But, honestly, we should be building MagLev trains in this country. Scranton to NYC in 1 hour on a dedicated line that runs down the median of Interstate highways, expanding the commuter range of NYC and getting cars off of the highways.
I actually agree with you on that, but there's no chance of that happening.
thanks for the update! i really hope this happens and the cutoff is restored, it is so rare to see an abandonned line come back to life. what happens if the FRA does not select the scranton line as part of the infrastructure bill? would this make the project dead in the water?
We don't know. We'll cross that bridge if and when we come to it.
thank you for posting these! ❤
Glad you like them!
@@LackawannaCutOff Haha i love them
It is so great to see this project really coming along. Great update!
San Diego , Portland all had just three trains a day at the start. Look at them now and the demand for them!
Thank you Chuck for your persistence, frequent communication and thorough knowledge about the Cut-off. I'm really excited about going to Scranton and NYC by rail. Your hard work is much appreciated.
Thank you!
so excited to see this project finally moving along its. going to be so awesome when Amtrak starts running trains
Lots of question marks, but it's so good to see things are in motion
Great presentation! Yr very knowledgeable and i really am looking forward to the next update. It appears this great endeavor will eventually come to fruition. Keep up the good work 👍
Thank you very much!
When the NYC congestion charge comes in April 2024, look to see a huge push behind this project to help commuters get into NYC
I just thought of that. Hope you’re right.
This is a Goodmorning update. Some cool information we got here thanks for sharing! Could NJ Transit want to study feasible train stations on the rest of the cut off for domestic NJ Transit routes, instead of Andover and Blairstown being the only two (amtraks two).
Amtrak will have Blairstown and NJ Transit Andover. Those are the only stops on the Cut-Off being considered.
Great news! Happy to see!!
I hope that in the future that they will electrify the line so that commuter/ regional trains can accelerate and decelerate faster. Also track speed should one day be 100mph.
The Cut-Off may be 110 mph. Electrification is very unlikely, however.
@@LackawannaCutOffin the future maybe? When demand grows and double tracking is needed and zero-E trains are demanded we may see electrification.
Electric is the way to go......
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Even the MBTA is now talking electric.
Thank you as always! Love the positive updates!
You are so welcome!
It would be great if there were no delays, anti passenger train service critics, and beaurecratic delays which beaurecrats love to do. Once the cutoff work is finished and passenger train service between Scranton & New York City is running. It will help lighten up traffic on I-80 and other highways.
Time to fast track this.........
It's a shame they got rid of the Summit stop, it makes Gladstone branch connections much more difficult.
The simulations that NJ Transit ran identified the Summit stop as a bottleneck. I agree. I would like to see a Summit stop at some point, although it would have to be sometime much later on after service restarted.
@@LackawannaCutOff If it's a capacity issue they should build a third track from where three tracking ends east of Millburn up to Summit. They already want to three track up to Millburn, so why not go further.
Great news! Glad the letters to Phil Murphy worked as intended!!!!
Yes! Thank you!
Culvert is all done in Andover, now for the tunnel!
Are the concrete viaducts at Paulins Kill and the Delaware River still in good enough shape to be used again for this service?
Though I know it would involve Norfolk Southern north and west of Scranton, but would love to see the service go beyond Scranton to Binghamton and Buffalo too.
The viaducts will need work. West of Scranton to Binghamton would be a separate project from this.
Thank you Chuck!
Very welcome.
So much progress, really exciting. There's no 'Lack of wanna' go fast on my part let me tell you what
Is electrification being considered ? Thanks for the update.
No.
Hey Chuck - Thanks for the video. A little late to the game on this project. Does this mean Andover / Newton area will have train lines to NYC?
Better late than never. Yes, Andover/Newton will definitely have NJ Transit service to NYC. Time will tell as to whether Amtrak will join the party also, although currently Amtrak is proposing to stop at Blairstown on the Cut-Off, not Andover.
I know this won’t be a popular opinion but I have to ask it. Why Scranton? I can see NYC to the Pocono’s, that’s where the commuters are. I live in the Scranton area and I don’t see it.
This wouldn't exclusively be a commuter route. Besides, the politics of it dictates Scranton. End of story.
Well that’s great news, but what does that mean for the excursions at Steamtown National Historic Site in the future then?
That may be up to Steamtown. The issues would be scheduling around Amtrak and D-L and PTC.
@@LackawannaCutOff I understand
Do you think that Pennsylvania may eventually just buy their own equipment for this line like on other corridors in the country?
Don't know.
I wonder if they’ll do some Scranton to Springfield trains
How would they do that?
@@LackawannaCutOff running through trains from Springfield, Massachusetts and hopefully electrifying the Hartford line, and through run trains out of New York City to Scranton Pennsylvania
doubt it, there doesn't seem to be a demand for it.
The study of the study.
The line to Andover, a distance of ONLY EIGHT MILES, has taken THIRTEEN YEARS so far, and they say that it will be another THREE MORE years to complete this!
Our federal government is like that Jabba the Hut character in the movie Star Wars........too big and too fat to even get out of it's own way. This isn't even going to happen until 2045 at the earliest.
The entire Lackawanna Cutoff only took three years to build in the early 1900's. Ridiculous!
Blame the Sierra Club, which is a PRIVATE entity, for at least 8 years of that delay.
Do you know if Andover and Blairstown are likely to be Amtrak stops?
Blairstown, yes, Andover most likely no since it is already slated to be an NJ Transit stop.
Bi-hourly service would be decent.
Let's get the three trains a day in each direction going first.
What's going to happen at MP 47.0 (West Port Morris) with the Brooklyn Rd. crossing? Will it be a crossing at grade or will the underpass be put back in?
It'll be a grade crossing, unfortunately.
How come Summit was removed as a stop?
I believe that it comes down to traffic on the line and what their simulation showed. Also, they removed one stop from each state to be fair.
The released Amtrak study is pretty sad. With minor speed improvements, they could have a single trainset provide service every six hours, allowing for service every three hours with both trainsets. Therefore, with only an additional trainset, they could provide service every two hours. Also, running dual-mode locomotives and not even studying electrification to reduce travel time and increase reliability makes no sense.
Electrification is VERY expensive. It's not in the cards.
As a "Valley" native, this will never happen. The Plan has been out there since the '90's and has gone nowhere, sorry folks. The closest "possibility" would be a NJ Transit line to East Stroudsburg, this has been a a part of this "plan" also from the '90's. Several left and right politicians have dangled this "carrot" and always stiffs the residents of northern NJ and NE PA. Might as well build a church and start praying.
Which "valley"?
@@LackawannaCutOff SMH, a native of NE PA, guess you're one of the river jumpers from Jersey. This situation is not only dead in the water, the multiple rider studies from Scranton to NYC showed no cost viability, from the "Gap", I pray you know where that is to NYC, possible but, only on the NJ Transit end, AMTRAK is not going to get approval for Scranton to NYC, especially in this economy.
nothing but a turtle moves at the speed of government.
Ah, but it is moving.
@@LackawannaCutOff True
I’m from the government and I’m here to help.
new study means somebody is getting paid again ! and again and again ..lol
Studies are often done to provide tangible evidence of what you already know to be true.
I hope they will eventually put freight on this line too!!
Very unlikely.
We need to get rid of this useless study’s it takes time and money away from use
Can't believe that this will ever be break even much less profitable.
And do highways and airports turn a profit?
@@LackawannaCutOff if the government and the socialist elites would st as t out of the way aviation and ground transport would be better off. That has nothing to do with route choice of the rail what volume of business it would generate.
@@c.d.porter9366, socialist elites? Lol. So the Republican party is the party of socialist elites?