Managers, What Small Things Immediately Make You NOT Hire a Person? - Reddit Podcast
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Wow, I used to think "good verbal and written communication skills" was just something I put on my resume right out of college because I had 0 actual job experience. I didn't realize so many people legit just don't have basic common sense to proof read their emails or being polite.
I'm reminded of once at college when I arrived early for a class, and on my way toward the room passed a woman struggling with a few boxes. Instinctively, I offered to help her carry them, for which she seemed grateful. The next semester, guess who my professor was? She remembered me and immediately liked me.
I was frequently called a liar, for thee list of jobs that I'd had. They insisted that I was lying, since I didn't have a PHD. I had started working in Electronics at 13, and I tested out of a Electrical & Broadcast engineering course at 20. Since the Army didn't give you a diploma for not needing the classes, I was an obvious liar. I was also asked why I didn't have a degree by the engineers where I worked because I would bring the solution along with a problem. I also caught engineering mistakes that caused production problems At first, I was ignored, but they soon realized that they could simply sign off my work and save days or hours for themselves.
Two immediately come to mind: 1) Over confidence. I get over selling yourself, but if you come at me with something like “I’m gonna be your next manager” no you’re not, because I won’t hire you. 2) stating that you’re available anytime on your application and then informing me that you can only work weekends and Tuesday morning in the interview.
Seriously, who wants to hire soneone who announces their desire to take over thr place the moment they show up???
@@Clyde-S-Wilcox Right?!
Hey whats up?
I wouldn't have lied and said "we will call you" and just never call him. He was straight up with them, they should've been straight up with him.
If you are so casually lazy that youre just willing to admit you want nothing more then to sit on your rump all day to the person thats supposed to be giving you a job, something youre objectively not supposed to be lazy at, straight talk would do nothing but make him indignant as well as lie about how lazy he is to other employers that have to deal with trying to fire him after the find him asleep in a back somewhere and then having to replace him after months of non productivity and then pay him unemployment on top of it.
He needs to remain honest about that lol
@@velveteenrabbit5940 I would’ve said, “We MAY call you”
These business people are almost never straightforward. They are kind of devious and will always have excuses. That is the truth!
What are you on about
But...why
I love the first story. If he can’t get a job, what other option does he have besides crime? 7pm is too early for a drug use offense
the first guy is actually a pretty nice story
If clothing beyond the basics of clean and proper is a deal breaker, the job better be sales or legal in nature.
You want a suit? You want dress for a wedding? You better pay me six figures
Yes, and thats also a problem it may keep out people who are already poor and therefore cant afford really nice clothes there and then, but could earn it if they get a job
One time I applied for a place in a higher level position than I yet had experience in, but I got an interview, did well, almost got the job, but was beat out by my at the time co-worker, I heard from him that it was close between me and him. Later on another position opened up with my EXACT job title and experience, which I was extremely proficient in, very niche too, you would go through a million applicants and not find someone who had the exact skill set and experience… didn’t even get a call back. I’m completely baffled. I had left the previous interview with a good impression and my former co-worker and I were on good terms too, I was not bitter about him getting the higher level position.
I’m thinking the only plausible explanation for this is the unlucky half resume dump.
I have cancer
@@TheMan-bk5voyou mean you are cancer?
Story 32: Watching potential machine operators drive sounds like treating the receptionist well for most any other job. See story 19.
Story 23: While I may not remember applying somewhere if it's been months since I applied (looking at you Purdue), I won't brush them off. Also, if I applied there the day before, you can be certain I'll remember the next day.
Straight up answered "i just want the money" when asked why i wanted to work there... they didn't call back. But in my defense, it was my 120th job application, my 47th interview, i was getting tired of it all. Also they weren't some innovative big name company, they were one of the 9 generic hardware stores in the area. No one works there for their "passion for medium-sized power tools and paint samples".
I can't think of a single person I have ever met that didn't need to improve their telekinesis abilities
I went for a job in a local dairy concern that made cheese and butter. The job was for a cleaner, paid well and little responsibility. I have previously worked as a line leader in an ice cream factory. When they realised this “I was too highly qualified to be a cleaner” and turned down. The next week there was a fire there, caused by rubbish not being cleared. Ooops, maybe they should have got a cleaner who had health and safety certificates. 😂
Many years ago, a kid that lived down the street from me complained that no one would hire him. He wore ragged cloths, his long hair was dirty, and so was he. He had no excuse, since he was still living with his parents. I told him why he wasn't hired, but he insisted that he would clean himself up, after he was hired. He was still unemployed, years later when I moved out of that town.
S11 I know for a FACT that chucking half the applications away happened in Aviation years ago.
Funny nowadays there is a worldwide shortage of pilots and the salaries are skyrocketing!
But 10 years ago it was murder.
Story 23: I can give grace for forgetting some details of a position. Some people apply for 100 jobs a week (or even a day). They're just casting their net out to see what they can catch, cause that's how shitty it is to be on the job search. So I can understand some of the details getting lost or jumbled up.
I've been on the job hunt for a little while and my strategy to maintain my sanity is to apply to lots of very similar positions. One could imagine how many different positions with different names from different companies are really just the same thing. So I've definitely forgotten which positions were "Operations assistant" and which are "Operations coordinator." They just tend to blur together so I often find myself stumblung over the titles.
This situation was worse than what I do, though. I at least remember what companies I apply to.
Was not able to get a Job since Years and I'm happy that nothing that was mentioned in the Video is regarding anything I do
It is astounding how many people schedule interviews and DON’T SHOW UP. Stop working the unemployment system already! Where I work probably 75% of the people who have scheduled interviews don’t even show up.
I can understand sometimes unexpected problems may show up, but 75% is a lot. It should be the rare exeption
@@zakosist there’s an epidemic of people who are milking unemployment and use scheduled interviews to show the state they are “trying” to find employment. Not enough workers in the state to verify unemployment claims so they just fly under the radar
When I was the second shift supervisor I had some candidates to choose between for a delivery driver (we did auto-parts for Ford and FedEx packages at our location, so not really pizza delivery). There were three applicants and two positions (one was filled immediately by a friend of mine who I vouched for, no nepotism; dude is genuinely a good worker), and the one other guy had filled out some of his application in military shorthand... I picked him, but he never called back; so we went with the other guy... lasted a whole 2 weeks...
Not a red flag but the only reason I was hire at my current job was because I was the only applicant that wasn't in school and had no plans to go back. Learn later from a coworker who happened to be a friend of my mother that my said boss said I was the best hires that she had in a very long time.
What was guy #2 thinking?! No job is going to hire you if that’s all you wanna do at your job. That’s for break time, not for work time.
Back when I worked security I was given what was known as the “supervisor’s route”, it wasn’t strictly for supervisors since I wasn’t one it was just the last shift on before dayshift arrived. One of our guys who’d been with the company longer than me had gunning for that route for years and had begged to take over the route, as soon as we were probably an hour in he said “I made a horrible mistake” after realizing how much we had to do. The guy thought he was gonna have an easy night and thought he could just bring his laptop and watch a movie while waiting on calls!
Story #27: the guy is very disturbing.
The I realize I jumped from job to job and should have stuck it out longer. I plan to do better. A horrible “plus”. What is the best way to predict future behavior?…….. class?…… anybody……..?
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT GAME IS THIS
Ad Victoriam!
The attitude thing is ableist because some people could be neurodivergent.
A lot of these guys really act like even getting the interview isn't enough of a chore. We already jump though hoops just to get a response, you shouldn't get to be picky after that. Cover letters, referrals, emails, put on a monkey suit even though the uniform is probably more casual anyway. Sheesh
I understand somewhat they have to select for people who are actually suited, and its first when you meet them in person and see how they act you can truly get an impression of them. Even if you may have written things before then, its much easier to lie on a resume than fake your entire personality, and fake knowing a subject in person. Maybe they should make the process before that a bit easier. And at minumum sending out fake job offers need to be illegal, if you send a job offer you need to hire somebody in a certain time or you should get fined
@@zakosist With the system being as it is where we have to give 100% just for the chance of being noticed and they barely have to give 10% to acknowledge us. I have no sympathy for hiring managers.
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I honestly think I might just be in the "tossed out in the unlucky half"
I've always shocked potential employers by showing up and doing any job cheerfully. I took on a contracting role where I was basically being called out for the most random tasks, often on short notice, like the "unload multiple shipping containers by hand, can you get to the work site in 20 minutes?", and with that one, for example, the boss of the site was impressed that I consistently showed up with a smile on my face, did the task rapidly, faced the product as instructed with only one demonstration, and wrapped it up in the sealant for storage without trouble. They in turn didn't mind me popping my tunes down close to hand and just jamming out as I unstacked the boxes from the containers. They were doubly impressed when I had fished everything out, and found the packing slip. "Hey, I've found the slip, do you want me to check everything is in there as I go?" "what? You're good to do that?" "Sure, count the number of items, check the codes match, ask if I don't know what I'm looking for" "Yes please!"
With that kind of recommendation on me, I honestly have no clue why no one's calling me back. The job seeker unit I'm working with even has my resume and is like "honestly, I don't have ANY notes to give you, this is really solid" - the one who did was "well if you put this section here instead of there I personally would like it more, but..."