Ustad Rais Khan Jhinjhoti and Speech On Vilayat Khan

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @urbanturban621
    @urbanturban621 9 лет назад +15

    this was 1982 and i am one of those who attended this programme in bombay
    in this programme i have witness of many great musicians sitting and listening to Ustad Rais Khan Speech and his Jhinjhoti later
    i remember this concert of Khansahib he was firing from start till end
    memorable concert
    in a way true of whatever he said long back

  • @ahmedmasood5872
    @ahmedmasood5872 2 года назад +2

    I’m here to listen to most beautiful rendition, the very beginning has given me goosebumps and moist eyes and the rest is sheer bliss and par excellence, the artistry is magical and mind blowing, SubhanAllah, I could listen to this till the end of time and never get tired, RIP.

  • @DrKapoorKD
    @DrKapoorKD 7 лет назад +8

    I have been fortunate to know both ustad Vilayat khan Sahib and ustad Rai's Khan Sahib and have listened to their music. Both are great masters. In my own life I had many teachers and I am grateful to each and everyone of them. I wish this frustration had remained private within the families.

  • @shubhankshukla7367
    @shubhankshukla7367 2 года назад +7

    Na Vilayat Khan Saheb rahe naa Rais Khan sahab rahe,unka bajaya hua Sitar reh gya h bs sune aur Anand le🙂

  • @configmap
    @configmap 10 лет назад +7

    I don't follow why artists talk bad about other artists. Ustad Vilayat Khan and Ustad Rais Khan are great musicians; enjoy both their styles... let's leave it to that and not fight on who is a student of who and so on.

    • @ShahbazAli95
      @ShahbazAli95 10 лет назад +6

      A student or a son is only on his top level if he gives tribute to his elders...Otherwise, the person is useless..... :P

  • @Bobby_Munshi
    @Bobby_Munshi 10 лет назад +26

    My two cents on the speech by Khansaab.
    1. Khansaab's father Ustad Mohammadkhan sahab beenkar was a legend in his days. I can say this because my father was a disciple of Ustad Mohammad Khansaab. (Ust. Rais Khansaab's father).
    2. Ustad Mohammad Khansaab's heart was so delicate, pure and childlike, that even when a small child sang in the correct surs, he would cry like a child in sheer bliss! (My father bears witness to this...)
    3. Ustad Mohammad Khansaab's own baaz was par brilliant. In his later days, he was paralyzed. Yet, he was adamant to teach. Even in this condition, he kept teaching my dad.
    4. I feel that such a great artist's name should NEVER have been omitted by anyone. Be it Ustad Vilayat Khansaab, or Ustad Rais Khansaab himself. Its not a gharana war per se. Its about due respects going to the guru. If that is missed, we as Indian classical musicians believe, everything is missed.
    Again, Just my thoughts.
    I will not take names here, but when someone gives his / her entire life to music, to teaching and to the real "Guru Shishya Parampara", missing out on such names is not very colorful.
    Respects to all names taken here in this clip. :)

    • @axemanextremist
      @axemanextremist 9 лет назад

      Dear Friend, we really appreciate you speaking the truth, so where in Mumbai your father was learning from Ustad Mohammad khan, was at his home or at the Academy and what's your fathers name?

    • @Bobby_Munshi
      @Bobby_Munshi 9 лет назад +5

      axemanextremist At his home. I still have the 'Hiren Roy' sitar that my dad Bharat Munshi (who never went professionally into sitar). During Ustad Mohammad Khansaab's last breaths, it was my dad who was holding his hands. Whenever my dad recalls fondly of Ustad Mohammad Khansaab and his baaz, he always has tears in his eyes! Such was the great personality!
      R.I.P. !

    • @mewatigharanaa
      @mewatigharanaa 9 лет назад +1

      Dear Bharavi munshi are you from mumbai?
      So Good to hear about your father memories with ust Mohammed khansaab
      We are making a project on various ustads of this gharana
      Any possibility to talk to you or email??

    • @Bobby_Munshi
      @Bobby_Munshi 9 лет назад

      +mewati gharanaa Sorry for the immensely late reply! You can eMail me on falkinproperties .at. yahoo .dot. .co. .in.

    • @amitadiecha9046
      @amitadiecha9046 8 лет назад

      Bharavi Munshi

  • @ajaytalgeri133
    @ajaytalgeri133 4 года назад +5

    Till date, never heard better jhinzoti than this, in instrumental. Period.

  • @mohammedalinaik2186
    @mohammedalinaik2186 3 года назад +10

    Ustad Vilayat Khan saheb, aothough a great musicians but was also publicity-hungry. He would also play to the gallery most of the times. He knew the art of hogging the limelight. Ustad Rais khan saab on the other hand banked only on his talent which was more than sufficient for him to rule the hearts of music-lovers.

  • @swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831
    @swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831 4 года назад +5

    I loved the way Rais Khan saheb has thrashed Vikayat khan.

    • @ArchismanMozumder
      @ArchismanMozumder 10 месяцев назад +1

      Has Ustad Rais Khan's words enhanced your music appreciation skills in any way?
      (His artistic skills, on the other hand, are absolutely sublime.)

  • @rajendrasonawane2676
    @rajendrasonawane2676 10 лет назад +2

    WA! USTADJI KHAN SAHAB AAP SACHCHA BOL BOLTA HAI. AAP KE SAHGIRD RAH CHUKE DHULIA KE BASHIR PATEL SIR ENSE MAINE SITAR SIKHANE PRAYAS KIYA HAI. LIHAJA AAP SE BHI MERA KUCH TALLUK BANATA ZARUR HAI.

    • @Rahmathulla40able
      @Rahmathulla40able 2 года назад

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  • @navrasrecords
    @navrasrecords 7 лет назад +5

    As a music lover and passionate follower of that gharana, I am deeply offended by the tone of these comments. Ultimately the Artist will be liked and judged by what they present and that matters more! There was no need to say all this but he has repeatedly made offensive remarks about other Indian legends that I have heard of! So no surprises there! I have the highest respect and affinity for his playing and he is no doubt a genius, albeit a flawed one!

  • @kinjalknr
    @kinjalknr 10 лет назад +8

    No doubt Rais Khan Saheb has been a Star of Indian Music.
    Melody and craftsmanship of sita playing par excellence.
    He must have felt very hurt, thats why he chose to speak.
    He had lot of sitar still to play before Indian connoisseurs in India. He chose to leave India at his peak. We still miss his music.
    N Kinjalk

    • @paultuell2200
      @paultuell2200 9 лет назад

      +nishindra kinjalk Where did hew move to? to which country. He must return to pay in the winter concert season?

    • @r8rdarklord
      @r8rdarklord 7 лет назад

      He went to Pakistan.

    • @r8rdarklord
      @r8rdarklord 7 лет назад +4

      Why is he hurt? Ustad Vilayat Khan was not made in 4 years of Riyaz. He has given his life to this instrument. Also, he has changed his baaz 3 times, so who can claim whose baaz is he playing. Finally, Rais khan is wrong, just by playing the Gharana baaz doesn't mean that one becomes a guru. That is not the tradition, look at Ustad Sukhwinder Singh Pinky who plays the banaras baaz & was a student of Pandit Kishan Maharaj. Shubh Maharaj who is an up and coming tabla player doesn't go on saying that he is Ustad Sukhwinder's guru. The fact is Ustad Rais Khan was jealous of Ustad Vilayat Khan's prowess & fame, which is what is coming out in this monologue.

    • @swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831
      @swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831 4 года назад +1

      @@r8rdarklord when you can't find anything incorrect in one's statement then go in false depth claiming the same person had bad towards the other. In short, if you cant cross as to what Rais has claimed here why you're saying he had bad intention? Why not to put this lable on vilayat who enabled Rais to speak like this?

  • @surenderbhutani3470
    @surenderbhutani3470 10 лет назад +2

    Koi Maa ke pet se seekh nahin aata, Sub ko is duniya mein seekhna padhta hai.
    Dr Surender Bhutani Warsaw (Poland)

  • @davekrushna780
    @davekrushna780 3 года назад +1

    Don’t insult any artist it’s their own choice . He didn’t said that I learnt myself he said I learnt from many gurus . Telling name of gurus is on artist himself or herself

  • @BugiAnsari
    @BugiAnsari Год назад

    🎶🎵🌙🌈⭐👏..this is a sad story That Hurts a performer,, He is Not In This World. he says I love the Audience that has come to Listen to me but there is a saying that if you make someone a guru so his son becomes automatically a brother,...the rest needed a lot To listen,👏🙌👐🤲🤝🙏✍

  • @govindarajulu-kasturi9614
    @govindarajulu-kasturi9614 6 лет назад +1

    Beautiful
    God Bless
    Thanks

  • @penta15786
    @penta15786 10 лет назад +9

    All that Ustad Rais Khan Sahib said is true. It is rather unfortunate that Ustad Vilayat Khan does not mention his mentors and ustads. In his zest to prove that he did 'Riyaz' to achieve his position in this world is not true.
    Yes indeed Ustad Vilayat Khan is a great sitar player but he did learn from Ustad Mohammed Khan Sahib the father of Ustad Rais Khan. Yes it is also true that he plays the baaj of Ustad Mohammed Khan's gharana.
    All the recordings prove that Ustad Inayat Khan played very differently than Ustad Vilayat Khan. He passed away when Ustad Vilayat Khan was only 9 years old so he could not teach him for too long. The influence of Ustad Mohammed Khan is evident.

    • @r8rdarklord
      @r8rdarklord 7 лет назад +4

      It's very difficult to verify what Ustad Rais Khan says because Ustad Vilayat Khan trained under Ustad Wahid Khan, Ustad Bande Hussain Khan, maternal uncle Ustad Zinda Hussain Khan.. So, it's incorrect to say that he was self-taught. Regarding the baaz, he changed his baaz about three times across his life-span, so which baaz is the mewati Gharana baaz? It is also true that his right hand technique is representative of Ustad Inayat Khan (his father) as is obvious from the Imdadkhani gats that he played. Ustad Raees Khan is known to claim several things at several different times, hence difficult to say who is right.

    • @r8rdarklord
      @r8rdarklord 7 лет назад +5

      Let's assume what you are saying is true for a second. Are you claiming that Ustad Vilayat Khan was made by just studying sitar for four years with Ustad Mohammed Khan. What did he do for the rest of his life?

  • @jigggro
    @jigggro 6 месяцев назад +1

    Love uvk. But rais khan may have a point here.

  • @ansarsabri430
    @ansarsabri430 4 года назад +1

    Subhan allah khansahab

  • @Siddharth89
    @Siddharth89 10 лет назад +1

    Classic Ustad ji style!!!!!

  • @sudiptobiswas6114
    @sudiptobiswas6114 3 года назад +2

    What about Dhruba Tara Joshi?

  • @purandaremandars
    @purandaremandars 3 года назад

    Love!

  • @pitaavata2720
    @pitaavata2720  6 лет назад +2

    Some strange confusion about Gharanas,Lineage & who learned from whom happened mostly in the 60s till early 90s and such gharana wars were common in many other vocal/tabla/instrumental gharanas
    but having close contacts with some faternity and linking to this Rarest Rare Audio I shared few year ago
    i wanted to put back light again on the words what Rais khan said in the above clip
    i amazingly found a clip were Vilayat himself confess his Lineage & Roots to MEWATI which for me was a truth i heard from many others but was surprising to hear him confess amazingly also he talks about his Madhya Pradesh(central India) Indore,Ratlam connection
    i am speechless confused of one thing forsure if Vilayat himself says he is Mewati roots who and why the Damn f... Etawah Gharana or controversy started??
    i strongly remembers Bimalendu Mukherjee (Buddhaditya Father) said to me Etawah seems to be an Egoist Decision from Vilayat himself & its stupid of such branching out only reason he wanted everyone under him,this seems to be also a strong reason imrat khan his brother bimalendu or many others didn't gave there nod to Etawah but said Imdadkhani Baj or gharana same reason i feel rais spoke widely about not accepting Etawah as gharana..
    listen to the audio clip Vilayat Speaks about being Mewati
    ruclips.net/video/XdJ1An5JkpQ/видео.html

    • @SanjayDas-je3kc
      @SanjayDas-je3kc 6 лет назад

      They all seems to be One , it was just a stupid war of who is the king
      i wonder if its imdadkhani gharana or even etawah for say,it clears that it all started from imdadkhan time ,comparing to this Mewati tradition is much older then imdadkhan himself and even the recording upload of mine clears as vilayat khan clearly states he is Mewati, even in a recent interview Pt Jasraj Said they all are mewati & same family

  • @zahirpatel9965
    @zahirpatel9965 7 лет назад

    khan saheb charan Sparsh mere dilo dimag me sirf aap hi aap chaye hai apki sitar gazal se mai bhut parbhavit huva tha jab aap dhuliya aye the mere walid sahab bashir patel bhi sath me the maine sitar par aap Ke same kuch Alan kar bajaye the aap ne kaha tha ke is ladke ko mere sath bombày bhej do meri kimat me nahi tha is ka mujhe malal hai Allah apko janat ata farmaye amin apka ek nachiz diwana zaheer patel

  • @adnannadeem3194
    @adnannadeem3194 4 года назад +2

    Ustad rais khaan sab 100 percent gaaiki ang ka baaj bajatay Hain.ustad rais khaan sab Jo b baaj bajatay Hain wo small hota Hy lekin Dil main utar jata hy.lekin vilayet khab sab bas lambi taan hy aur kuch b nahi hy. Vilayet khab sab ko sun Kar booriat honay lagti hy.lekin rais khaan sab har baar kuch alag Kar detay Hain.

  • @jigggro
    @jigggro 6 месяцев назад

    They are gurubhais in that case. Rais Khan needn't claim that he is Vilayat Khan's ustad.

  • @sujitjp45
    @sujitjp45 7 лет назад +17

    He is a brilliant musicians but there was no need to go down to this level when criticising Ustad Vilayat Khan Sahib in my opinion.

    • @haveball
      @haveball Месяц назад

      Family matter😂😂 ghar ghar ki kahani

    • @TheShadow-td8fz
      @TheShadow-td8fz 13 дней назад

      ​@@haveballghar ghar ki kahani apne ghar ke andar hi rakhta chaiye, leken rais khan sahab to ghar ka mamla bahar le gaya... khyar choriye, abh to ye sab kalakar ka hi mout ho gya, kya jaruri hai ye sab kahna..

  • @maha1304
    @maha1304 4 года назад +3

    This is hypocritical of him to criticize vilayat khan as he himself learnt from Vilayat Khan when he was a young kid in Mumbai. He never called Vilayat Khan his guru. This is just family feud

    • @luvdasitar
      @luvdasitar 4 года назад +3

      maha1304 bs. He never learnt from Vilayat Khan. There are recordings of him at 11 year old so he it is entirely untrue.

  • @qasimhussainkhankhail5656
    @qasimhussainkhankhail5656 4 года назад +2

    I’ve seen a video of a slightly aged Ustad Rais Khan (I’d say 40s-50s) say that his teachers were the “greats” Ustad Vilayat Khan and Pt Ravi Shankar mentioning how the latter made the sitar famous around the globe. He also mentions the importance of giving respect to his elders because without it one can never become a great musician

    • @swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831
      @swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831 4 года назад

      Don't misinterpret his words. I've also seen that video will surely give it's link over here. Rais said vikayat and ravi shankar are great sitar players. that's it. He has not said they were his teachers. Why you're lieing?

    • @qasimhussainkhankhail5656
      @qasimhussainkhankhail5656 4 года назад

      @@swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831 are you daft, the interviewer asks him who did he learn from he says “bohot baray baray naam hain, ustad vilayat khan, pt ravi shankar, jin ki wajah main aj sitar mana jata hey” please share the link

    • @qasimhussainkhankhail5656
      @qasimhussainkhankhail5656 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/dB9W-naKFU8/видео.html
      Please forward to 2:53 where the interviewer asks “Khansaheb un asatdza ka bhi zikar karain jin sey app faizyaab houay” which in english means please mention some of your teacher from whom you learnt

    • @swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831
      @swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/dB9W-naKFU8/видео.html this is a link

    • @swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831
      @swapnilsahasrabuddhe7831 4 года назад

      Jahan tak tone ki aur pitch ki baat mai jantaa hun, interviewer ne puchha hai ap kinse Prabhavit hue? (Impressed)

  • @neelgupta1
    @neelgupta1 6 лет назад +4

    Ustad Rais Khan played the Gandhar Pancham sitar. So, was that a Mewati Gharana innovation as well?

    • @luvdasitar
      @luvdasitar 4 года назад +2

      Neel Gupta no. There are older recordings of Sitar ratna Rahimat Khan sahib playing the Gandhar pancham sitar. It is a matter of debate as to where it originated from.

  • @Sureshpantclassical
    @Sureshpantclassical 9 лет назад

    Which year this speech recorded and where

  • @DebeshDey322
    @DebeshDey322 3 года назад +2

    Umm wait a minute, who gave the world the Gandhar Pancham sitar on which Rais Khan shahab plays? Such ingratitude, lol!

  • @SOTOTA66
    @SOTOTA66 3 года назад

    Those people dislike press here, they are ignorant about classical music !

  • @vijaek4136
    @vijaek4136 8 лет назад

    what did he say ? could anyone translate for me please? i cant understand.thanks

    • @gauravsimha
      @gauravsimha 8 лет назад +2

      +Vijae K He criticized Vilayat Khan sahib for not paying due respect to all the great gurus that he learnt from in a particular interview to a magazine. He also accused Vilayat Khan of calling him (Rais Khan) a shagird of his, when he is clearly not.

    • @vijaek4136
      @vijaek4136 8 лет назад

      ohh i c.thank u sir ;)

    • @Suprat0555
      @Suprat0555 8 лет назад

      This is not criticism. its just the protocol in Guru Shishya parampara, IE, relationship between a Guru and student. A positive comment.

    • @r8rdarklord
      @r8rdarklord 7 лет назад +2

      Not really, he claims that Ustad Vilayat Khan was his shishya. He misrepresented the word "Guru Bhai", which means brothers who learned from the same Guru. Ustad Rais Khan was a great Sitarist but he was also quite full of himself. Read his views on India where after leaving for Pakistan he said India & Indians are falling at his feet to have him comeback.

  • @sitarshahidali
    @sitarshahidali 10 лет назад +3

    War in tow kings

  • @rakeshrana8808
    @rakeshrana8808 7 лет назад +2

    Pakistani flavored speech!

    • @penta15786
      @penta15786 7 лет назад +4

      Rakesh Rana - What has this to do with Pakistan.

  • @MMHIMU
    @MMHIMU 10 лет назад +1

    It's too important to mention each one's master's name as their identity, particular learners must have obeyed their teacher otherwise i have to say he or she is cheater, whatever or whoever they are, what if he is ustad vilayat khan or others !

    • @r8rdarklord
      @r8rdarklord 7 лет назад +1

      People learn from a lot of masters the only master that one names is the one that tied the ganda. Let's take the example of Ustad Amir Khan - how many masters did he learn from & how many did he acknowledge.

  • @anupamadhikari4758
    @anupamadhikari4758 8 лет назад +2

    why is Shujaat silent

    • @luvdasitar
      @luvdasitar 4 года назад +1

      Anupam Adhikari because it is true.

    • @JaydeepSinha
      @JaydeepSinha 4 года назад

      Because he himself follows Raees Khan sahab :P

    • @Takitataka
      @Takitataka 4 года назад

      Because he is not crazy as Rais kan

  • @pitaavata2720
    @pitaavata2720  6 лет назад

    ruclips.net/video/XdJ1An5JkpQ/видео.html

  • @sukhmansingh7059
    @sukhmansingh7059 7 лет назад

    hankaari khan sab

  • @Ansulgoswami
    @Ansulgoswami 6 лет назад

    Shameful

  • @vinodlala
    @vinodlala 9 лет назад +6

    it is shameful artist speaking like politician.....

  • @SatIsh-qi4oy
    @SatIsh-qi4oy 10 месяцев назад

    Vilayat seem to be ungrateful person and not worthy of respect.

    • @ArchismanMozumder
      @ArchismanMozumder 10 месяцев назад

      For admirers of music, all these fine artists need to be respected for their skills & not what they do & utter in their personal lives.