The Royal FAMILY ORDER of CHARLES III
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Yesterday, at the state banquet hosted for the Emperor and Empress of Japan as part of their state visit, we saw the family order of King Charles III appear for the first time. Her Majesty the Queen was wearing her husband’s family order, with his portrait, on her left shoulder above the family order of her late mother-in-law Elizabeth II. The tradition of sovereigns granting female members of their family with a family order containing a portrait medallion goes back as far as the reign of King George IV - and if you want to know more about this fascinating tradition, go and have a look at my longer video on this subject. The order consists of a portrait miniature of the sovereign set within a gold frame embellished with stones and suspended from a coloured ribbon. The order has always been the personal gift of the sovereign and is not automatically granted - and it has been the usual practice since the reign of Edward VII, for the first recipient to be the Queen Consort. So it is no surprise that the Queen is the first person to be seen wearing it.
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That is a much better portrait than the flaming red thing.
Interesting to see the rear of the medallion.
Live this information. The skill of the artist, Elizabeth Meek is astounding.
Allan, thank you for this very informative post. I literally knew nothing about these orders besides the fact that they exist. Very interesting.
Very nice video
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!
I had wondered if His Majesty would continue this tradition and I am glad he did. The new order is as splendid and beautiful as the older ones.
Mr. Barton, thank you for the video.
The emperor of Japan receiving the Garter is also a time-honoured tradition, as every emperor since Meiji has received the order, they are unique in that they are one of the few non-Christian members in the order's history.
There was also a Sjah of Persia I believe.
@@Popperite, you are correct, I shall alter my comment. For there were two Shahs invested with the Garter
Hirohito's was rescinded during the War only to be restored later.
@@purrdiggle1470 indeed.
@@purrdiggle1470I heard about that during a tour of St. George’s Chapel at Windsor. Quietly taken down during WW II, quietly restored some time later.
Nowadays we all reduce, reuse and recycle. I love the notion of reusing the family diamonds! It's a lovely miniature of the King, but as I think I commented on your longer video, I think the grosgrain ribbons are somewhat naff.
Thank you so much for this video, my heart leaps up when I see a new one pop along!
I was watching some video from the banquet and noticed Queen Camilla was wearing two family orders. I rightly assumed the second was CRIII and immediately thought of you and the previous video on the subject. Thank you for your prompt attention to this! It was delightful to see the details on the order.
Thanks Allan. I learn so much from your videos. The medallion is beautiful.
Very interesting. I predicted the color blue but in some pictures it looks more like pale green.
Anyway, excited to finally see one.😊
Yes, the lighting wasn't too good on the photos they took and gave it a yellow cast that made it look greenish. I think it's a good choice.
@@allanbarton It definitely looks green when worn above Queen Elizabeth's yellow against the blue sash. I think its green.
@@anna_luin I’m only going on the official reports! Every report says it is pale blue. Granted blue at the green end of the spectrum, like duck egg blue.
This type of ribbon with a wavy pattern is called Moiré. It's also made without the wavy pattern and that type is called Bengaline. In addition to being milled as ribbon both are also milled as fabric.
Thank you, Dr. Barton. I very much enjoy your videos.
Yeah! I think if Princess Royale Ann was feeling better, and Princess Catherine was feeling better, we might have seen a few more. Thanks Allen.
You are the F.L.Cross of our generation. Thank you for all your work around the coronation and royal bits and pieces.
The Emperor of Japan plays the viola; he switched from the violin as it has a less conspicuous role in music.
Not directly related, but the King's cypher looks really classy in the relief on the back of the Order.
I think it looks great.
Thank you for this interesting video.
I know The Princess of Wales is ‘higher’ in rank than The Princess Royal, but I would really like to see His Majesty award his Family Order to Anne next. She’s been a loyal member of the family and exceedingly hard working for so long. I hope ‘Old Bean’ will do that for his beloved sister.
It doesn't have to be a competition. George VI held a luncheon the day before his coronation and awarded it to all the female members of his family. The only thing that rank differentiated was the size of the order. The larger ones went to his wife Queen Elizabeth and mother Queen Mary. Everyone else got the smaller ones.
I think he will award Duchesses at the same time as Princesses aswell. It’s probably why only Camilla has one now. With Catherine and Anne out of commission for now. Still it will be fun to see them all debuting them when they are ready.
At some point a lot of the older Princesses and Duchesses will have three and possibly Camilla. It’s been a while since someone has had three and worn them all. I know that Margret had three and wore them together, I also know that the Queen Mum had the same three. Though normally she wore her husbands and daughters. Princess Alexandra is the only surviving to have George VI and Elizabeth II, It would be brilliant, for King Charles to give her one as well.
The all time record holder must be Queen Mary of Teck. She was given the Order Victoria and Albert, the Order of Edward VII, the Order of George V, the Order of George VI and the Order of Queen Elizabeth II. Three of them were the largest size being the wife of a reigning Monarch, the second for being the Mother of a reigning Monarch, and the third for being the Grandmother of a reigning Monarch. Alas I will most likely only get to see three in my lifetime anyway. Unless the Queen already gave Princess Charlotte one. Like her Grandfather did for both her and Margaret as children.
I have to agree and nothing against Queen Camilla but she is Queen Consort whereas Princess Anne is Princess Royal and I argued, quite well I'm told, that her Majesty, May She Rest in שלום, Queen Elizabeth II should re write the order doing away with primo geneture, or male centric inheritance of the crown, so that Anne might become Queen upon her, Queen Elizabeth II, unfortunate, demise. We all see how well that went
Great video as always! Thank you so much for all the information.
Imagine being as excited about the new Royal Family Order as it was to discover King Charles III's portrait for £20.00 from the local bank's ATM!
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Fascinating and thank you very much for all the information. Continuity is very important and I’m glad His Majesty has opted for a tried-and-trusted classic design. It’s beautiful.
Very interesting. Thankyou
Wow, that is absolutely beautiful front and back and the fact somebody hand painted that in oils is just amazing!
I wonder why some order sashes/ribbons run from the right shoulder to left hip (eg. RVO) and others from the left shoulder to right hip (eg. Garter)? It was one of the differences between the King's order, where he is wearing the RVO, and his grandfather's order, who is wearing the Garter.
The Garter sashes are worn from the left shoulder to the right hip to signify its superiority than the other orders.
The King is wearing the collar of the order of the Garter. Meaning he can't wear the sash at the same time, so the RVO was the next best thing. Although I would have thought that the order of the Thistle was higher ranking and the sash should have been worn instead of the RVO. But I guess I'm wrong.
@@richierich7229 The sash of the Thistle would be a dark green. The sash of the RVO pops up much more in this miniature picture. And as the sovereign Charles can decide what he want to wear. In the original portrait photo he wears the star of the Thistle, but this can't be seen on the miniature.
I wonder if the King will bestow the Order on his granddaughter Princess Charlotte of Wales. She turned 9 in May, the same age that her late Great Grandmother, Queen Elizabeth II and her younger sister Princess Margaret received the Royal Family Order of their grandfather King George V. As the Kings Order strongly resembles that of King George V it would be a sweet nod to his late mother if Princess Charlotte received it at the same age.
I do hope so, that would be lovely.
I Do hope so! I love the wee order that is presented to the babies in the Swedish Royal House. 😊
I'm pretty sure she will, once she becomes of age and takes up public duties...and assuming that His Majesty is still alive.
King Charles doesn't seem to be one who would be keen on bestowing such marks of distinction on children, not with his emphasis on a "slimmed-down" monarchy.
Every female HM and HRH gets the family order, no?
@@jesusthroughmary No. It’s in the sovereign’s gift, it isn’t automatic.
I am so pleased that His Majesty is maintaining this charming tradition!
God Save The King.
Long Live The King.
Not a native Speaker so with "order" I expected something different. So each monarch in GB founds his own order?
I thought of you soon as I saw it reported that Her Majesty was wearing the King’s personal order!
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Princess Alexandra, The Honorable Lady Ogilvy is the last living recipient of the Royal Family Order of George V, not Elizabeth II.
George VI, not George V as she was born not long before George V's death
@@pedanticradiator1491 Oh, my mistake.
I want one …..
Can you ask for one for me at the same time?
Wouldn’t hurt to ask for a third too, would it
😊Uh hmmm...maybe a 4th also?😊
I have six.
I'd be content with one of the 'loose' diamonds that seem to be in ready supply!
QE ll was likely the last holder of several now-extinct international Orders, including the Order of the Two Rivers of Iraq.
Interestingly The King appears dressed for the State Opening of Parliament (unlike his mother, grandfather and great grandfather). How do I know? Because he's wearing the ribbon of the Royal Victorian Order, not the Garter 😊
Ribbon or sash?
He wears the collane of the Garter, no need to wear the sash too.
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It shows that when he wants a decent painting, he can get one, unlike his recent, repugnant 'official' portrait.
The red portrait was commissioned by the Drapers’ Company of the City of London. They asked if he could sit for it and as there’s hundreds of years of tradition that the Monarch has a portrait at Drapers’ Hall, Charles agreed.
Charles didn’t pay for it, he didn’t choose the artist, he had no input into what it looked like, and it isn’t for him to display
Whatever got into their heads to commission such a ghastly thing? 😬
@@VonononieTHANK YOU for explaining that situation, I’ve heard nothing of the background story before now, and from the shoddy journalism I encountered I had drawn the conclusion that this was a portrait for royal use and display. I wish more people understood this.
That is not an official portrait.
I love the red portrait. i could talk at length about the symbolism, the message and the emotion that this painting embodies... but as the old saying goes, there is no accounting for taste.
Brilliant! Thank you for the wonderful explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
@@allanbarton Everything you post is informative, entertaining and well researched. I love how the Royal Family Orders show the continuity of tradition and style.
The back is impressive enough in its own right.
I also think Princess Alexandra will also recive the order since she is the last survior of King George VI famliy order, and in time Princess Charlotte also will recive the order
Alexandra is barely a working royal anymore. I doubt it.
It's expensive to make this order, Princess Alexandra already has resigned from royal duties, therefore she wouldn't have the possibility to wear it. It's therefore unlikely that she will receive the family order. Princess Charlotte might get the order but it is unlikely that she will receive it as long as she is a child.
wonderful. thanks
Pale Green is what I see.
This is the last transitional element for the present Reign.
We still don't have a new great seal.
@@allanbarton Or (as far As I know) any new royal warrants for manufacturers, in the name of HM King Charles III.
@@williamevans9426 that’s true, it’s very curious - a slow start with some things.
Thank-you for guiding us through this historical transition.
For some reason I am very attached to this tradition, so it was highly gratifying to see Queen Camilla wear the new Family Order. I hope other members of the family receive smaller versions.
Oh. What an interesting idea. Is that ‘done’?
@@leahnichol6665 - past monarchs have given a larger version to their spouse, or to other senior ladies in the family. It's kind of like classes within the order.
@@tek5692 For example. George VI, gave the larger version to his wife Queen Elizabeth and mother Queen Mary. And gave the smaller versions to his daughters The Princesses Elizabeth and Margaret, his sisters-in-law the Duchesses of Gloucester and Kent and his niece Princess Alexandra of Kent.
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A nice design; and I've always liked The King's Royal Cypher design (more than some other choices of His Majesty's).
It's without question that the Princess of Wales will receive one, and it's almost as certain that the Princess Royal and the Duchess of Edinburgh will as well. On the other hand, it seems unlikely that the Duchess of Sussex will be getting one in the foreseeable future, if ever.
In any case, the miniature portraits themselves are hand-painted and thus each are slightly unique; as this is a laborious process it will be some time before those presently deserving of the Order will be able to receive it.
George VI was able to hand out his order to all female members of his family at once the day before his coronation in May after only ascending the throne in December. I don't know if it actually has to take this long.
@@richierich7229 A few years before that Coronation, British industry and artists could craft Queen Mary's Doll House. Try replicating this today in a timely manner.
I'm not saying that each of King Charles's Family Order badges would take several years to make, but it might be another year or even two before a lot of three or four are completed, assuming that the bottleneck is painting the miniature portrait, and depending on the priority Charles gives the project. The jewelry work is fairly simple and could be done in a matter of weeks.
Blue? It might be the night mode in my pigging, but it looks green to me
It’s a colour cast from the photography. It is very pale blue.
Hey Alan thanks again for a great story take care dear! I cant wait till William is King lets hope and pray kate will still be here when that happens.
Thank you Cyndi.
no offence but our King will have to die and William is in no rush for that to happen, no one wants to lose a parent
I think William will prefer to wait as long as possible. He loves his father.
We can all wait for William, we want King Charles III around for many more years ❤
Such an insensitive comment, in so many ways.
I wonder if the Princess of Wales (only because of her cancer diagnosis) not because of her precedence will he next
There is a photo on Pinterest showing both sides of the family orders for Elizabeth II, George VI, George V, Edward VIII and I think George IV, the backs of the last three all show the same pattern, the backs of Edward VIII appears smooth.
Very interesting.
Fascinating! Thank you.
Thank you again for such interesting content ❤❤❤
Very interesting, thank you!
Wonderful! “No innovation here”-I consider the word “innovation” a pejorative, by the way.
@@ByronAdams-j7t Monarchy should be an antipode of innovations by definition
In other reports I have read the ribbon of the new Family Order a pale green - which it looks to me. Also, the George V and George VI Orders portray those respective Kings wearing the riband and collar of the Order of the Garter. Was there a specific reason The King chose the riband of the Royal Victorian Order instead ? Was it simply because the portrait was taken from a specific photograph where he was wearing the Royal Victorian Order ?
The official record is light blue, the photos realised have an unfortunate yellow cast to them. I think a decision was made to use the image as a reference.
Lighting affects the colours we see as well as camera type, some capture colours slightly differently to our eyes.
Very interesting, I knew nothing about this.
The colour of the grosgrain ribbon appeared to be oyster.
You are clearly an expert. Very informative channel. Aloha from Hawaii
Oh my goodness Allan. You've done it again. I had been trying to enlarge Queen Camillas pictures so I could see if she had the small CRIII portrait on the ribbon, but couldn't see it. What a treat to have your video on it. Many Thanks.
Glad you appreciated it!
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I love your channel Allan ,always so interesting and informative and information we can trust .Thank you
Thanks very much, glad you’re enjoying my videos!
Does the Order of Charles III come with a skirt? He enjoys wearing skirts.
Go to Scotland and tell a kilt wearer he is wearing a skirt
Very interesting. Thank you.
Very interesting, but I always think they rather spoil the ladies dresses.
Most interesting and thank you for the time and effort in making this video. I have now subscribed.
Thank you for your kind words and the subscription Hugh, I hope all is well.
Very interesting, but does membership of the Order mean anything other than having a medallion to wear? Do the members have obligations, have meetings, take part in ceremonies?
No, it’s just a sign of personal affection from the sovereign. I’ve done a whole video on the rationale and origin of this tradition.
Did the queen use the order of George VI and also of her grandfather? G V?
Yes, look for example at the pictures of the state banquet for President Trump.
The diamonds set in the oval frame are brilliant cut stones (round) along with step cut stones (rectangular baguettes). There are essentially three modern cutting styles for diamonds: brilliant, meaning the facets are triangular and kite shape, step cut, where the facets are rectangular shape and parallel to the table facet, and mixed cut, a combination of brilliant and step. Also, I believe that yesterday Queen Camilla wore for the first time in public the Queen Elizabeth II Burmese Ruby Tiara. Earlier in the day she was also seen wearing the Williamson Brooch which contains at its center one of the world's largest and finest pink diamonds, weighing nearly 24 metric carats and cut as a round brilliant. Another great video, Allan.
Camilla has worn the Burmese Ruby Tiara for the South Korean state visit in November 2023.
@@red.aries1444 Excellent comment. Thanks for the update. I must alter my notes.
An interesting close up and explanation of the order. Thank you.
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Thank you for this information. Alway intrigued what they are for. Mabuhay.
Your cool dude that was a great video. Thank-you for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
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It would be nice to award more on the anniversary.
Siblings & older relatives... You spent many more years growing up with them..
Very pretty and so interesting. I knew about the orders, but wasn’t aware of how they were created. It was good to see His Majesty and the Queen. Thank you from Texas.
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The three Scandinavian monarchies also have royal family orders for its female members, but the ribbon colors don't change from reign to reign. The Norwegians and Danes use their national colors (red with blue and white edging for the Norwegians and white edged in red for the Danes) while the Swedes use the light blue of the Order of the Seraphim (the equivalent of Britain's Order of the Garter). Their ribbons are smaller than the British and are tied in the form of bows. I've never seen any of the recipients wearing more than one at a time, unlike in the U.K., so I assume anyone holding an order from more than one monarch simply replaces the portrait.
What a cheap looking piece of jewelry. It’s a disappointment to see one that is significantly inferior to those previously issued, but then again, it’s no surprise!
As a colonial, I ask with due respect to the monarchy which has served The UK and Commonwealth well for many centuries, what are the responsibilities of the members of these orders? Religious orders that are more familiar to me require duties of membership. But these personal orders seem superfluous - granting membership to family alone.
Dear Dr Allan Barton, could you please clarify the function of wearing "aiguillettes." It was my understanding that the wearer is either an edecan or Aid de Camps to the monarch. Nevertheless, I understood that in some cases it is also to indicate military rank. Can this be the case in the uniform of King Charles III? Thank you.
I wonder if HM The Kind wears this item of uniform because be was an ADC to his mother?
@@williamevans9426 I am inclined into believing the aiguillette King Charles III wears is indicative of his rank as Admiral of the Fleet. This is based by observing the other two family order, the one with the portrait of King George V and the one with the portrait of King George VI. Including the one for King Charles III, all three are almost identical. The three of kings are wearing the naval uniform of Admiral of the fleet, the blue sash of the Order of the Garter and finally we can partially see the gilded cords of the aiguillettes. What rest to learn is, if when these three monarchs were crown princes and ADC of the current monarch at that time, the aiguillettes differed - in some details - from the one used as ADC vs the ones indicating the highest naval rank.
@@gustavtracchia1341 Ah yes! Many thanks for the explanation.
@@williamevans9426 I must correct myself when I wrote "the three most recent male monarchs are wearing the blue sashes of the Order of the Gater." King Charles III is making an exception, since in his official portrait of 2023, he is wearing the sash of the Victorian Order instead and that portrait is the one used for the family order here discussed.
@@gustavtracchia1341 Thank you again! 🙂
Orders are granted to children? Princess Elizabeth was a child when George V reigned.
It was a different time... They also created little coronets for her and her sister when her father was crowned.
@@red.aries1444 Yes, I know those coronets. They look like the Burger King crowns that come with the kids meals except they were real. I was just asking because I didn't know that orders were given to children as well.
Very good thank you, though KC3 is not wearing exactly the same Orders and decorations as GVI or GV, they both wear the sash of the Garter, C3 wears the sash of the RVO.
Whose family order would have been recycled? Does this imply that on death of the recipient of an order the physical order is returned to the crown?
After seeing the video I'm wondering if there is a person with 3 or more of those? Getting the: "Gotta catch'm all" vibes.
Alla, Thank you for this commentary. While I am not a fan of the monarchy, your videos are so insightful and educational.
Thankfully, Charles chose a more traditional portrait and not that horrible "red portrait." 😅
The ribbon color is more sophisticated than the last blue ribbon. It's a lovely color that won't make the women wearing it look like Easter eggs
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King Charles has initials on the back of his order. What do they stand for? Thanks!
What a stunning object. Thanks for the video
Princess Alexandra of Kent? Should be quickly the next to have the three Royal Family Orders.
I think that is likely.
There have been several triple recipients. However, the woman to receive the most family orders was Mary of Teck, who received 5 orders of the 7 family orders created.
She will have the orders for George VI, Elizabeth II, and Charles III.
@@t.wcharles2171 Queen Mary could have had 6 in 8 but Mr Simpson stole one.
@@kah10161 I hope HM doesn't lose the timing
The magazine is great. Highly recommend. Love your videos too
Thank you Linda for such a lovely endorsement.
Why has King Charles got smaller medals than everyone else, is this a new idea?
Thank you, Allan, for this lovely video on Charles III's royal family order.
Glad you enjoyed it!
If this is true then it sums up how ridiculous these people are.... awarding mates and family honours and pictures of themselves....We need a Republic.
Spoil sport.
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Very informative. Excellently presented.
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Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!
Lovely video . Excellent as always.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Why was the Japan Emperor wearing the Order of the Garter?
It's customery for foreign Royalty and sone presidents to be made Honourary members of British orders when they have state visits. The late Queen Elizabeth had many foreign orders given to her though strangely enough nothing from the USA despite the so called "Special Relationship" and her many visits there
It's tradition to wear the highest order of chivalry or merit at a white tie state banquet. The guest wears the highest order they have received from the country they visit. And the host normally wears the highest order from the other country.
The Emperor of Japan just received the Order of the Garter that day. Only other monarchs will receive the Garter no presidents of other countries. But they can recieve other orders, for example the President of South Korea received the Order of the Bath when he visited the UK last year.
If the guests or hosts never received such kind of orders from the other side, they wear their highest order from their own country.
The USA have a lot of military decorations, but no system of granting orders of chivalry to other head of states, nor does the US-President receive such orders, therefore neither Obama, nor Trump is wearing a sash, while Elizabeth wore her Garter when dining with them.
@red.aries1444 Ronald Reagan was given the Order of the Bath
@@pedanticradiator1491 I think they abolished this practise in newer times.