Bad Batch 1x16: Kamino Lost | Reaction!
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- Kyle and Bendu react to the Season 1 Finale, Episode 16 of The Bad Batch: Kamino Lost!
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21:56 She's doing exactly what her brothers taught her to do; putting herself on the line to make sure no member of the team gets left behind. Besides, she grew up with this droid, he's the only thing left of her time on Kamino. She can't help but try to hang on to him.
I also Love that this is only the Second Time we´ve seen a Sunshine on Kamino, the only other Time was in the "Arc-Troopers" Episode and I think it really Fits
And when fives escape
And after the clones though off the aqua droid army which sadly included 99's death.
@@connorredshaw7994 That was the Arc-Troopers Episode
@@John_Raiyder oh sorry I forgot.
My god you're right
In Crosshair's defence, he did just save Omega and the entire Batch aimed their weapons at him for it. They don't trust him and he knows it. He doesn't really have a good reason to trust going with them. Not that I agree with him at all, but I can see why he still doesn't want to go back with his brothers.
Understanding him does not mean we agree with him.
To be fair, it did look like he was aiming at Hunter at first, but my heart did break a little when he tossed his rifle to Wrecker
i thought Omega going back for AZI could have been the turning point where he might have believed her as she was willing to die to save AZI instead of do what Hunter did and leave him behind. but like you said the lack of trust between all of them might have just pushed back more into the arms of the empire
I feel like Wrecker was about to cry when he told Crosshair “we would’ve taken you back”
Like he wasn’t so much hurt by Crosshairs leaving as he was by Crosshair thinking that the Batch abandoned and gave up on him.
The bad batch never did try to get him back though... they would have probably taken him back but they never attempted to save him.
@@necrona but they did. In this last episode…
@@RangerHouston only after crosshair brought them to him… he had to force them to him only for them to be like “hey since we’re already here u wanna join back”
@@RangerHouston Too little too late... they went to rescue Hunter anyway, not get Crosshair.
I'm afraid Crosshair needs to stick around on the Empire side a little bit longer on a writing level. He is the batches eventual window into the worst-case scenario crisis that is likely down the road for them; so he'll remain our window into the Empire as a whole for some time till then. Still not 100 percent about his chip admittedly, since again he's showing signs of headaches, but it will be interesting to see his perspective of the changes on the Empire side through his eyes into S2.
He showed like 1/2 headaches in the last episode, I think it’s still there, but he’s been told during the procedure where they enhanced it that it has van removed
Agree. We might see the arc of Crosshair's disillusionment with the Empire, and his eventual reconciliation with his brothers. After all, Hunter will be proven to be right: Crosshair is just a pawn, and the Empire deserves no allegiance from bona fide soldiers like the Bad Batch.
I'm thinking that the chip HAS been removed, but that the treatment the Kaminoans used to 'intensify' the effect of his partially active chip has embedded the programming into his mind. I don't think he'll ever come back to the batch, but I expect the programming will break down eventually and he'll have some sort of tragic 'blaze of glory' ending.
I wanna see crosshair just say with the empire or become a bounty hunter for them like boba I want him to have a bad ending maybe killing someone important instead of oh everything worked out in the end and he’s a good guy now
But, will the empire welcome him back considering that he lost "control of the situation" with his former brethren?
Calling it now, Crosshair's going to go on a Zuko journey.
Filoni ftw
@@badbrothers8221 omggg I want this now. We can title it, "Crosshair Alone".
Considering Filoni helped with ATLA I could see that being an influence on some sort of Arc with Crosshair.
@@jalenashley3909 We almost literally did get this; "The Solitary Clone".
@@CABRALFAN27 YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Man!!! Seeing Kamino literally going down to the deep sea is both beautiful, and sad at the same time, it is a new era for the bad batch indeed.
Omega really tried to bring Crosshair back to the light, just like hunter would do, but there’s season 2 for his way of the empire, his redemption needs to be earned at this point. I’m super stoked to see where episode 17 picks up by next year. AZI is the MVP for getting the group to safety, and is now part of the crew.
And Fives lives on in AZI! (As well as the shady stuff Nala Se did to Omega and the Batch).
For me I’m glad kamino went down. They conspired with the sixth to destroy the jedi
@@Verownicarg indeed!
To me Rampart is what General Hux should have been.
I can’t wait for season 2 but I can’t believe hunter literally took off with crosshairs sniper at the end
LOL nice catch! I just realized that haha. Damn they did him dirty in the end, even more reason to not come back! hehe
@@Vandicoup I hope he still has his pistol though at least so he can defend himself if the empire tries to kill him
I hope we get to see the imperial armoury that made him and Wrecker cry when he gets new weapons
@@nicholalehtimaki3597 Haha yesss!
@@connor8219 Haha, yes. Another good catch! I remember his pistol now too, ever since the series premiere when the Batch narrowly fled and he shot at them with his backup gun right after his sniper was shot off by Omega. That'd be kinda sad if Cross was completely defenseless and they just shot him right there with no real struggle. :(
17:16
"There's always a bigger fish" -Qui Gon
Crosshair's argument against the Bad Batch was that they had 'abandoned' him after he was captured. Wrecker's counter argument was that Crosshair had plenty of opportunities to escape the Empire and rejoin them but chose to stay. Wrecker's argument was given extra credence at the end when Crosshair chose to stay and rejoin the Empire even though the Empire had actually abandoned him at Kamino.
To defeat an enemy, you must know them. Not simply their battle tactics, but their history, philosophy, art.
Next season is going to feature Crosshair gradually learning the Empire doesn't value or respect him.
He knows that already... he stays because he feels betrayed by the bad batch. And his whole future story is going to depend on how he is going to get over that fact. If he holds tight to that resentment, he will double down on his Empire soldier plan but if he is slowly capable of letting go of it, he will leave the Empire and go on his own for a while before rejoining them... he needs to see what life is beyond being a soldier for a bit too.
Also, he probably did some horrible sh*t under the chip's influence that he has to live with now, and I do get why he took being left behind in episode 1 so damn personally...
every reaction I have seen. nobody notices that when crosshair goes to the window, he sits down and holds his head in pain. he has not removed his chip.
I believe you're wrong. It's the scarring possibly cuasing pain?
Rex was mentioned in Cut and Run, but we didn't see him until later.
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I watch quite a few reaction channels and I have to say that when it comes to Star Wars content your reactions are by far the best and the one that I look forward to the most.
Your passion for Star Wars together with your ridiculous level of knowledge on the subject makes for a great viewing experience.
I have been subscribed for a few years and don't often comment, but feel that having watched the whole of Season 1 (bring on Season 2) with you both that some praise and appreciation is definitely long ovedue.
I feel the same way.
hey kyle and bendu it’s been really fun thank you for making these reactions! cant wait for season 2 :D
It has been confirmed in the episode guide that the mountain facility at the end is in fact Mount Tantiss on the planet Weyland, the Emperor's secret cloning facility from the Thrawn Trilogy in Legends.
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The patch on the Imperial scientist's shoulder is the exact same one that was worn by Dr. Pershing in The Mandalorian - the Kaminoan cloning symbol inside an Imperial hexagon.
Do you remember when Palpatine wanted to clone the Zillo beast? It’s been a long time since that episode, but I’d still add it to the list of the possible projects Nala Se will be working on.
Jedi. She'll be working on Jedi. Maybe we get a version of Joruus C'baoth, as it is confirmed this facility is Mt. Tantiss on Wayland.
The Doctor at the end had the same patch as Dr Pershing in the Mandalorian
It was fun watching this first season with you guys, thanks to your enthusiasm and knowledge. I love Omega, such a sweetheart. I want her to meet Grogu.
I've seen another "high profile" Star Wars fan throw a rather petulant hissy fit over this episode, if I say "meh" people will know who I mean, so it warms my heart to see that you appreciated 1x16 for what it was trying to do and, more importantly, say. We didn't need Rex to show up. Or Boba Fett. Or, for some reason, Darth Vader. We needed this - what was presented to us in the story. Kudos to the both of you. You've cemented yourselves as my favourite Star Wars fans/reactors.
Hissy fit is a bit much. He just felt the finale would've been bigger. People are allowed their opinions.
Shrugs. It's been my experience that the more "high profile" the more entitled they are to have everything go their way. The thing that bothers me is the Omega hatred in some quarters. Hating that sweet child is disturbing to me.
@@Flippokid People are indeed allowed their opinions. And it's my opinion that he's acting like a spoiled brat. If SWT is disappointed with the finale, then fine, have at it. But it is 100% his fault for having those kind of expectations. Not the show's.
@@jaimebergner It's not that Omega is a child. It's that she's a girl. Pure and simple. If Omega was a boy clone of a similar age to Boba no one would bat an eyelid.
@@jackdubz4247 Well, it's pretty much the rule that the finale is the most impressive episode of a season. At least that's what it should aim to be. Expecting the best is not the fault of a paying customer. It sets him up for disappointment though.
This was effectively an epilogue, which has value in its own right, but it would've been more effective if they blended 15 and 16 together.
I have Thalassophobia! But for the record "Mon Cala arc" was one of the best animated episodes of the Clone Wars. And they don't had large sea monsters in the dark to creep me out! :D
This is some of the shit I’ve been waiting to see the entire season. More character development, interaction, and banter than the last ten episodes combined. Wish we had more of this during the show proper.
I just noticed that hunter actually nicked crosshair’s gear XD
There are hints that Crosshair still has his chip in (headaches, "Soldiers follow orders" mantra). He either lied or was lied to. Whatever is happening with him, he is a very complex and well-written character, I agree that it would have been too soon for him to be redeemed. The episode itself was kinda underwhelming for a finale, but together with part 1 it was very good.
One thing I really appreciated during Season 1: they kept the Clone Wars tech! Other stories in this early Imperial era I think were too trigger-happy introducing TIEs, ISDs and Stormtroopers, with no CW tech at all, so it was good to see that they resisted this, and for the earliest Imperial stories they try to show the transition in a more realistic way.
Maybe they ordered him to lie to them. :P
This episode makes me think Crosshairs mutation isn't just "good at shooting guns" but i think he has enhanced Vision as well as incredibly fast reflexes. Like Hunter is the tracker, but Crosshair is like an alarm system with a sniper. How else would he be able to perfectly grapple both Omega and AZI through cloudy and distorted water like 4 fathoms down. How else does he immediately know where the Bad Batch is at all times, like yeah he can predict their movements but how does he know their precise location every time
"Your Path is clear." - AZ Just realized that's the same thing Cherut said about Jen Erso basically in rouge one
I guess the fact that we didn’t see Cad Bane again reinforces your suspicions about him appearing in the book of boba fett. If that’s the case, makes you wonder what he’s up to during the War of the bounty hunters.
Wrecker carrying AZI like a baby at the end of the episode was *chef's kiss* And I also loved, as was said here, that Crosshair was listening to Omega. That started in E1 when they were in the cells on Kamino. He was actually listening to her and seemed ready to hear more before they took him away. He's not completely lost, I feel, but whether he'll get what he needs early enough to break through to him we'll have to see in S2. I have my fingers crossed...
Mt Tantis and Wayland GOT ME READY FOR THRAWN THINGS
In which I learn that I've had thalassophobia all my life (I just didn't know the word for it)
As always, your reaction is my favorite reaction to the latest Bad Batch episode. Nerve wracking, tragic, heroic, ominous.
Men if this was intense!!! I am really confused with Crosshair but ok, I trust filoni.
A friend of mine told me: “Tell me when we saw a light of sun on Kamino!?” 🤯🤯🤯 it’s so symbolic and emotional, the end of the kamino OMG, I am satisfied and I can’t wait for the second season! Loved your reaction and love you guys! May the force be with you! 🖤🖤
I think in the TCW episode "ARC Troopers" we've seen a sunny Kamino.
@@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 ok I think I Can rewatch TCW, thank you 😄
The GGI approaches photorealistic levels sometimes, especially that water
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despite Crosshair's inexplicably stubborn refusal to acknowledge what's staring him in the face, there's always been a method to his madness, so i'm adopting a wait-and-see attitude towards his approach. maybe there's something there that we still don't see (hence the 2nd season)
17:44 The roars that sea monster makes are actually of the Indominus Rex and the Cloverfield monster.
A great reaction to an awesome finale. "Nerve-wracking"; yeah, that's the word.
Damn, I love this show!
at least you got to see whats inside the kamino ocean
I was getting Baymax and Hiro from Big Hero 6 vibes with Az and Omeega.
Crosshair not being instantly redeemed in 1 season is great. Less of the copy and paste redemption arcs.
24:38 I have seen there that someone who believes that this planet is Wayland. The world that appears in the novel "Heir to the Empire", where the clone of Luke Skywalker, Luuke Skywalker, and the Dark Jedi Joruus C'baoth were created.
This makes complete sense. C'Baoth wasn't created there though, he just came in and took all of Palpatines treasure.
It's actually confirmed that it's Wayland and Mount Tantiss. ;)
Echo needs to be given more to do, he's just in the background standing around.
23:03 Exactly Kyle! Your comment made me realise it's always raining on Kamino except for this bright clear day. I always thought that the whole surface of Kamino is locked in a perpetual storm
Yeah maybe the facilities kept that storm going? They had a lot of weird technology, and the Kaminoans ruined their planet ages ago. That could be a fun revisit to see parts of the ocean floor surfaced.
About Omega: They modified Jangos DNA with someone elses, to create a female clone. She has got a NZ accent.. and Temuera Morrison is from NZ. She must be the closest clone to Jango (besides Boba).
Maybe the needed female DNA version to create the clones. We don't know how they do it.. so they might need a mix of both genders like in the real world ^^
I mean, you have to guess that if the Kaminoans are able to clone someone perfectly from their DNA and make genetic changes to said DNA, they'd be able to modify the biological sex of said DNA too. So I don't think it was a cross with another template, they just modified Jango Fett's DNA to be natally female. Now as for Omega's purpose, there are lots of plausible reasons. I think the most plausible is their desire to experiment with female traits that would make a superior soldier. People tend to forget that a lot of physical traits that natal females on average tend to have make them superior on the battlefield in many instances. Flexibility, being the primary biological trait. But also, interestingly, marksmanship ability. Now, there isn't a TON of evidence to back this up and it is kind of disputed as science is generally moving away from sexual dimorphism like that given the evidence that is emerging, however there is SOME empirical evidence, both from history and in modern combat, that suggest women make better snipers because on average. A lot of people say it's because women, due to a variety of factors involving inherent biological characteristics and a gendered upbringing have a finer attention to detail, a better ability to focus, a better impulse control ability, and an ability to hold their breath and maintain a steadier, lower heart rate. Now this is in dispute scientifically, because again, not overwhelming evidence to support this, as many in the scientific community dub it myth. But, hey, perhaps it's something which is proven in the Star Wars Universe based on certain factors exclusive to their universe and not our own reality and the Kaminoans wanted to breed female clones to be snipers. Just a hypothesis however given the marksmanship we've seen from Omega, in the first episode when she shot the rifle out of Crosshair's hands, and throughout the series with her bow, it is a possibility.
I still have faith that the Kaminoan Rebellion will occur. I'm saying this because Nala Se seemed quite upset upon arriving at the Imperial facility and when the clone informed Vice Admiral Rampart of Kamino's destruction, he sounded a bit annoyed or depressed.
I don't know who needs to hear this but imperial Kaminoans are in the Pirates Price audiobook. That mountain is also very reminiscent of Mount Tantiss from the Thrawn Trillogy books...which is pretty relevant considering that that's what the TV series are building up to.
Glad that AZ is part of the team now. Looks like Gonky's got a buddy.
Love that u guys loved it too! Seen way too many negative comments. Also, I didn’t know it’s called thalassophobia! Now I know what my phobia is called lol
Love watching your reaction videos, guys. You’re my favorite! Hello from Germany
I loved the finale. It was great !!
I love how this show is just setting up a lot of possibilities for future live action projects, places that can be visited in new shows, people that they can call back to help in some adventure or just to do a cameo. Filoni is just adding more and more ingredients for the future.
I don't see Crosshair being willingly accepted by the Empire and Rampart. The Batch may need to save him.
Really enjoyed this tense episode and I think Nala will be like Jyn Erso's dad was to the Empire.
Dude I really like that idea actually🤙🏻I can definitely see her conflict with having to work for them
It took me until much later but Echo didn’t have one single line this episode. I like the finale but I didn’t like it as much as I hoped that I would. So glad there is a season 2. I had thought a lot of the friends or other revelations might be revealed in this ep but they were not. I’m glad that AZI-3 is now a part of the Batch! Glad that we will now see more about , (whether its called the Tarkin Initiative or whatever they are calling) how they plan on cloning Palpatine. Maybe next season we will see Grogu.
Yes he did. He had about 3+ lines, albeit very minor lines, but still: "At least the smell's gone." & "Quit complaining. At least you're not doubled up."
Not sure I'd survive the cuteness of baby Grogu in this animation style 🥺
@@Vandicoup Good catch, I didn’t pay close enough attention to the inflection of his voice to discern it was Echo.
@@wigwitch Understandable. Although the "not doubling up" line shouldn't be too hard to catch since the camera pans right at Echo speaking the line. It's much more the camera angles that I normally focus on more so, since most of the Batch's voices sound pretty similar like Wrecker, Hunter & Echo. haha 👍
@@ketchup016 Oh my god, don't even get me started right now! Knowing how absolutely adorable Yoda himself looked in TCW, Grogu is gonna be an absolute frickin' PRINCE if we see him in TBB!! 😩👑🤲
Of the entire episode I'm just glad that Crosshair chose to stay with right side, the Empire.
I can't wait to see what happens in your roleplay series on ice ball also that was a fun reaction
They're showing off with the animation in this episode great season so many questions for next season so it's done it's job 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
I wonder if that planet in the end is supposed to be Daro again (though a different part, considering those mountain bases) or if they're recanonising Wayland.
I really think they’re setting up a redemption arc for Crosshair next season. That end scene of the bad batch taking off and crosshairs choosing to stay but looking conflicted about it had very serious parallels to the Zeb and Kallus episode of Rebels
Awesome season of reactions gentlemen! Great work as always. Personally I thought they would close the book on kamino with a little more shock n awe like Rex showing up with some early form of the resistance. Instead they continued the story development with crosshair. They are taking their time with this story which i can atleast appreciate because it means we hopefully have alot more episodes ahead!
Sobering, when you realize, that in Legends the Empire struggled to consolidate the Republic and CIS into the Empire which is why the Kaminoans were able to rebel. But in Canon the shift is so seamless with the conquering clones become occupiers that the Kamino rebellion was effectively strangled as soon as it was conceived. A complete genocide.
I loved the Titanic-esque scene when the facilities hit the bottom of the ocean. That was gorgeous.
This ep should've been combined with the last for one long finale though. I don't feel much happened here that made it its own one. Just one long epilogue. I do like that Crosshair is so committed to his values. He does help Omega out to get even for her saving his life, but he is totally fine with dying for the cause if that benefits the Empire. That's gonna play out pretty cool in the next season I reckon.
24:47
Getting strong
"Officially there was never a clone rebellion"
Third time ive ever cried in Star Wars was over the destruction of Tipoca City, here in this ep.........
15:43 my same reaction LOL
I love the chapter with Rex on Bracca when they remove their chips and the two episodes of Captain Howzer ❤️
Do not distract the droid by talking to him while he's saving everybody's lives!
I hope Crosshair has a redemption in season 2. He doesnt have to rejoin BB but i hope he is redeemed. Like hunter said "we both want different things but that doesnt mean we have to be enemies"
I agree the music and sound design especially in the last couple episodes was epic and sorrowful
25:19 perfect description of the ending scene.
Seeing the end there... two words: Mount Tantiss.
Yup... and the story arc implies Thrawn is returning to the galaxy and is building a new military (that's the implication I got from the Mandalorian), so I think we are seeing a reimagining of Dark Force Rising....
We might see a version of a story so many if us have wanted to see since the 90's!
Oh it is a Red Sonja tat. Cool!
3 words: Wayland, Mount Tantiss
I think you mistook which episode Common Ground were. It wasn't the episode where we met young Hera and Chopper but the episode on Raxus where they rescue the former separatist senator (who were voiced by Alexander Siddig AKA Dr. Julian Bashir of Star Trek: Deep Space 9).
This was such an amazing season finale. I am very glad that no one died, but I am a little sad that Crosshair did not rejoin the Bad Batch.
Fucking weird analogy, but this thought is stuck in my head so now it has to be stuck in yours too.
If Omega witnessed the creation of the bad batch, that basically means she’s seen every member, barring Echo, buck ass naked.
12:30 same......my childhood 😢
I’m expecting an appearance by Nala Se in Mando S3, or at least a reference to her. There will definitely be a reference to imperial cloning soon in that series.
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Mount Tantiss on Wayland vibes from that final scene. I think the finale shouldn't have been a 2 parter but rather a long single ep and would have helped pacing. But glad crosshair didn't join the batch at the end. He hasn't had the development to justify the redemption. On the flipside the motives to stay in the empire should have been developed more. Looking forward to season 2
That is exactly what I’m scared is at the bottom of our oceans. I am fine going in the ocean on a cruise ship but it terrifies me to think of the size of some of the things that may be in the deepest part of the ocean
I think Crosshair might go full bounty hunter. Especially if he tries to come back to the Empire and is turned away or not given the freedom to operate.
I have said it before The Bad Batch is like The A team they will figure it out and get out of trouble using whatever is handy
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What if Crosshair goes back and they reward him for his loyalty to the Empire by making him a part of Vader's 501st
Maybe Crosshair need to confirm something to the good doctor Nala Se to change his mind. Crosshair is the type that hardest to change but once he change his mind, he be more die hard team member then anyone else.
I wanna see more of Mount Tantiss on Wayland
Thanks, Bendu! Thanks, Kyle! Thanks, Nerd Chronic! 💥 On to STAR WARS: VISIONS, LEGO STAR WARS TERRIFYING TALES and THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT.
Leave no one behind
i thought the season premiere was by far the best episode of the season. it was so much better to me that i wish they had made like a six episode season all at that level, no filler.
Commenting mid-reaction beacuse I just realized it! Of course the underwater tunnel it's strong af, it needs too hold a fuck ton of pressure. Not the biggest thing but I did have the same thought about it resisting while watching the episode.
I don't get saying no one died in this episode. Kamino died. And its depiction is almost (maybe more, depending on who you ask?) as tragic as Order 66. It was like watching the final nail in the Prequel coffin. And was it just me or was this the most nerve-wracking 'Star Wars' has ever been? Maybe I'm wrong, but my bet is that this episode is going to be much more beloved in hindsight, once the initial disappointment that some major and obvious tie-in to the overall mythos subsides. It's just the first season finale, but it feels to me like it could sit right alongside the other major cinematic events of SW.
The poor clone the tone in his voice makes it even more sad
Another amazing reaction
I’m glad you guys also enjoyed the finale part 2. I did as well! Crosshair is such a d$ck doesn’t t realize empire is just using him. Should have listened to Hunter. We’ve seen Omega’s different elements, now learning she’s older and wiser. The ending was epic seeing Nala Se’s new job as a scientist like Galen. She didn’t look happy however. Can’t wait for season 2! You guys were fun to watch all season!