If you read Harold Schoenberg's book on the great pianists, you'll find that actually Liszt respected and admired Chopin's interpretation of his own pieces much more. There's a supposed anecdote where Liszt was playing some nocturne of Chopin and improvising and adding flourishes everywhere, at which point Chopin told him to either "play it the way it was written, or not play it at all." Liszt, angry, asked Chopin to play it himself then, and Chopin did.
Unbelievable, this is my favorite prelude by my favorite pianist. I saw him two years ago at Carnegie Hall, and he wasunbelievable...Debussy Etudes, Chopin Scherzos, Chopin Etudes, Ab Polonaise, and the Boulez Second Piano Sonata played with commanding authority and passion.
Pollini is no longer with us. I do wonder whether at any moment in later life he was (made) aware of the presence of this video on RUclips. It is the one with the most views of mine...
Pollini won the prize because he exuded the spirit of Chopin. Pollini was 19 yrs old when he won the competition and played Chopin No. 1 concerto, written by Chopin when he was 19 yrs old. Too many pianists play that concerto with too much thoughts and reflection while that Pollini played it just right---youthfully, with dashing bravura, a piece truly full of excitement. The old man Pollini has some other outstanding Chopin playing too found in RUclips, but not all are good..
I even like his mistakes, including the last, edited note! There was almost no need to edit it 😌 His passion and depth is completely astonishing, besides his technique- a joy to watch his hands!
Well you've got both versions now, so take your pick. As I said before: it was fun to me... Nowadays, professional pianists never publish performances with such enormous mistakes anymore, technicians just remove them as I did. RUclips contains a lot of old material when such practices were not common practice.
You're welcome.. With Pollini synchronisation was easy: when his finger reaches the key the tone should come straightaway. And within 1/25th of a second precise on a magnified timescale of the timeline. With normal amateur movies it sometimes is frustrating to look for a clear A/V-moment to sync upon. Professionals use "clap-boards" on purpose for every take..
@flouz2 I could only correct one, the final one. In general I noted that most people take it for granted that Pollini did NOT make mistakes. While Rubinstein once said that missing notes came naturally to him early in life. When older (beyond 40 years) he cared more for perfection and played much more strict than before...
Not to nit-pick but there are a small number of mistakes, however, nothing that the average recording doesn't contain. The beautiful thing is Pollini's incredible emotional involvement with the work. Wonderful.
I've been playing this piece for more than 20 years and I heard no mistakes at all. Seriously, who cares? This is top notch playing, both technically and artistically. Playing piano is not about performing perfectly, it's about making music.
@@attiliofisher1094 As a pianist myself considering how good Pollini was, I wouldn't even consider that a mistake. Yes, technically it is, but, overall, the quality of the interpretation is amazing, it doesn't break the flow of the piece at all, hard to notice, it's not a studio recording, who cares.
The most difficult dance form for non-Polish people is the Mazurka. The variations in tempi are quite tricky to master. A Dutch pianist of the 50's recognised for his Rachmaninoff interpretations, Cor de Groot was well aware of this. This aspect can not be covered by the musical notation, but should be conveyed in person. I still have his historical Mazurka interpretations's in a full set on CD.
what a pleasure to look at pollini´s young mastership.actually i have to admit that i like the young pollini much more than the older,although one could assume that his musical potency must be bigger in the more advanced years,but he has lost so much freshness and composure over the years.
Not in the way I described earlier. I just realised this piece contains two equal notes at the end and copied the first to the last position, after erasing the faulty one. Professional studio's record several takes of the same music and assemble the best parts afterward seamlessly. So they can replace any part they like. However not all pianists like this (Horowitz did not) and rather accept some errors equal to those on live performances.
Legendary playing, most likely my favorite prelude❤ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.❤
I use the MAGIX Video de luxe (plus) 200x programme, in which this function is present since a number of years, my present version is 2007. I guess Pinnacle provides for the same facility in Pinnacle 10 and 11 (I stopped at version 9 because of too many program crashes, so I did not follow their development). MAGIX VdL provides A/V forward or backward shifts on the sound channel(s) with respect to the image in steps of 1 image minimum to a very high number. (In PAL 25 images equal one frame).
It was fun, despite the extra challenge in 4:3 screenformat and A/V synchronisation... :-D on PS: In the near future I will also upload Enrico Pace's Liszt performances in the proper format.
@musicioso My student friend once remarked, that once you master the 4 against 3 rythmic difference in the hands, the fantasie impromptu was tecnically not so difficult. But since he could play almost everything he wanted, he might not be the right judge. Préludes possess more problems of a non-technical nature...
This is my favorite rendition of this on youtube for the first half. Up until the crazy descending thirds. I think he loses it a bit there. I wish i could trill like that though. Jesus.
AspenTom, the same with a slavic feel. Yes, a slavic zeall has a distinct style., so don't confuse that with other nationalities. They call it "zal", a sort of melancholic ache. This Pollini plays a continental Chopin, you might say, not the real thing.
Qué idiotez típica de los soberbios y de los critican por tener el complejo de "divinidad griega". Pobres mortales jugando a ser moradores del Olimpo... Bravo Maestro Pollini!!! Gracias por darnos este placer imperfecto del disfrute de la música de otro imperfecto pero maravillosamente humano: Chopin.
actually i like pollini very much because of his polonaises interpretations. in my opinion he is the best non-polish polonaises interpretator far better than argerich, horowitz, askhenazy and asian pianists.
@mx19idlewilder "most precise" being Zimerman? Never any mistake? Zimerman is legendary for editing many of his recordings, more so than most pianists. So if you want to hear a note perfect pianist, you'll get it with him after he records pieces over and over. I may not be the biggest Pollini fan, which is true, but Zimerman's Chopin is not as precise. The question is whether you think Zimerman has a better style or feel for the music - and that I think is very much a good discussion.
@@andy85s71 Agreed. The prelude contains many perilous jumps in the left hand which are not noticed by non-pianists, and those thirds near the end are difficult to negotiate in tempo. Even Ashkenazy slows down, as do many others. Not Pollini. Another fabulous note-perfect version is Yuja Wang's live performance in Milan, available on You-Tube.
@vanthoff1 Hi Vanthoff. How was Pollini in Berlin? I have the chance to see him pretty soon but have to choose between him and Zimerman. Tough choice, but if it's anything like the Pollini of old I'd choose him.
My point is that music is national, not international. Most music were composed with the art istic ideals of the composer's native land, ideas culled from local songs and native folkloric dances.
To my great surprise this video outperforms all my other contributions. Twice the Enrico Pace and Fado's popularity and multiple the other ones, in which I put much more creative effort. So from a marketing point of view I'm succesfull, isn't it? Once I contemplated removing it from my overview, now I like the debates it inspires... :-D on (thuis)
Sorry i don't understand very well. You say you have a program to erase the mistakes that are did in the piano?? And that all the pianists have their interpretation with many errors but technicians remove them all? Thanks for your answer.
One person in this thread gambled on 1960, Pollini being 18 years old. Since the original version with this final wrong note seems gone from RUclips we'll never know for sure. The copy I stored someplace on my PC has no timestamp relevant to your question
@classicalalways you know, i heard krystian's few times live and another few live recordings and actually i didn't heard any single false note during any of chopin's compositions he played. i.e. mauritzio made few mistakes in this prelude, but despite of this hes got great technique. but lets be honest - every pianist makes mistakes even the greatest and thats a normal thing because chopin's compositions are so comlicated. as i said he is the only one who i never heard making any mistake.
+Mark Swanson Not to young not to master this piece. But as Horowitz once said, most pianists make mistakes or more often drop notes (which Pollini did not). I believe the original version, with the mistake in is gone from RUclips now. The download which I used for correction must be somewhere on my PC (in the XP mode that is).
I made a remark in general on people expecting present pianists in not making mistakes. I saw a lot of RUclips video's with Pollini performng pianoconcerto's and did not note any mistakes. Apparetly there are performances by him with mistakes after all as your post suggests. BTW another extreme example was Cortot, who found momenteous inspiration was the essence of a performance, not technical prowess. @@Seyit-Mehmet
Even Chopin had admitted to Liszt ..... Sorry. Nothing I've ever read has suggested that. I'll give that Listz was the better concert pianist--and Chopin would likely agree to that.. But for an interpteter of Chopin's works, there was only one, and that would be Chopin. There are numerous sources from that timewho heard both and would support that statement--don't belive me...check Schindler's (Beethoven's first biographer) comparison of the two among many others..
@classicalalways and yeah, thats ture - discussion about interpretation of the compositions is far better than childish arguing who hits the keyboard clearer. i'm quite a fan of pollinis talent because of how he plays polonaises. hes the best non-polish interpretor of polonaises and only few polish pianists can play them better than him IMO (i love his version of op.44 who he recorded for DG over 30 years ago). btw. listen to zimerman's sonata op.35 ruclips.net/video/ihjDQbMTZIo/видео.html (live)=)
@classicalalways pollini has got a great technique but the most precise pianist who plays chopin is zimerman. this guy is totally awsome. i listened to a lot of his performance and actually i never heard any mistake or false... zimerman has just a gift - he always hits right.
I am not suggesting that one has to be Polish to play Chopin' music right. Even Chopin had admitted to Liszt upon hearing Liszt play his own compositions that Liszt's interpretation was so far superior to what Chopin could even imagine when he wrote it. All I said was Chopin's music has its root in various Polish dance forms but .too many pianists pay no attention to that. They are not dancers and it shows in their playing. . I am saying that a lot of pianists play Chopin
@FredilYupigo I distinctly remember reading an eyewitness to Chopin's reaction to Liszt' playing his etudes. I recalled that Chopin said Liszt's imagination exceeded what Chopin himself had hope for in the piece . Also, if Rachmaninoff said such complements of Horowitz then I think it's utterly ungenuine for Horowitz is an ideosyncratic player not worthy of his fame. Rachmaninoff is a far better interpreter and pianist..
Chopin wrote in a letter himself that he would like to steal from Liszt the way he plays his etudes (op. 10). Its been said in anecdotes that Liszt could instantly sight read them and that he played the second one in octaves. Hard to believe but he must have been an outstanding sight reader. Grieg wrote that Liszt sight read his violin sonata in front of him a tempo while spontaneously arranging both parts (violin and piano) into one which made Grieg laugh "like an idiot". To Horowitz: Rachmaninoff and him were good friends and frequently played together 4 hands and on 2 pianos (e.g. arrangements of Rach 2 and 3). Rach loved Horowitz playing. He famously said that Horowitz plays the 3rd concerto better than himself and didn't even imagine his second sonata to sound as great as Horowitz arranged it. From most we can read on 19th century pianists, their interpretations were much more free and "ideosyncratic" than teachers and critics would accept today. Thats why Horowitz is called "the last romantic". E.g., Liszt was known to perform pieces differently than written and even said that he wants people to rewrite his pieces and freely improvise on them (thats why Horowitz rearranged rhapsody 2, 15 and 19).
@leopianotuner Both of you need to realize that composers didn't actually have to mean the COMPLIMENTS they were giving to the pianists. Think about it. If you (a composer) had a world-class pianist playing one of your own compositions. Wouldn't you -at least out of courtesy- tell them how brilliant you thought they were? It doesn't really mean much. Plus, Rach was known to be overly humble. He -allegedly- told many other pianists the same.
Most foreign pianists don't pay attention to the authenticating a song. They don't play the music with the original nationalistic flavor. In pop music this is very apparent. Just listen to a french guy sing an American song or an American guy sing a french song and you get the picture. The same goes for classical music interpretation. Most foreign pianists plays nicely but it is apparent that they have no idea of the music's original songform, and native style. A
RIP Maestro Pollini 😔
se nos fué el maestro :(
If you read Harold Schoenberg's book on the great pianists, you'll find that actually Liszt respected and admired Chopin's interpretation of his own pieces much more. There's a supposed anecdote where Liszt was playing some nocturne of Chopin and improvising and adding flourishes everywhere, at which point Chopin told him to either "play it the way it was written, or not play it at all." Liszt, angry, asked Chopin to play it himself then, and Chopin did.
Yes, I read that anecdote as well. Supposedly. Chopin was jealous. And also reported!y Liszt at the end said noone should play, but your way.
Wow. Thank you for sharing.
Unbelievable, this is my favorite prelude by my favorite pianist. I saw him two years ago at Carnegie Hall, and he wasunbelievable...Debussy Etudes, Chopin Scherzos, Chopin Etudes, Ab Polonaise, and the Boulez Second Piano Sonata played with commanding authority and passion.
Young Pollini, my opinion some of the greatest Chopin interpretations. He plays the music not the notes.
*NOBODY can beat Pollini's 24 Preludes* ♥
Pollini is no longer with us. I do wonder whether at any moment in later life he was (made) aware of the presence of this video on RUclips. It is the one with the most views of mine...
We will remember him in are hearts
Best played version of this song! Also in original black&white movie: Portrait of Dorian Gray! Best
I literally fell in love with this interpretation
He makes it look so easy.
Pollini won the prize because he exuded the spirit of Chopin. Pollini was 19 yrs old when he won the competition and played Chopin No. 1 concerto, written by Chopin when he was 19 yrs old. Too many pianists play that concerto with too much thoughts and reflection while that Pollini played it just right---youthfully, with dashing bravura, a piece truly full of excitement.
The old man Pollini has some other outstanding Chopin playing too found in RUclips, but not all are good..
Chopin Prelude Op. 28 No. 24 in D Minor，絕對是浪漫時期的經典之作。
在音樂上充滿著彈性速度與不和諧，音域跳動極大。雖然樂曲短小，卻充分表現情感、巧技與戲劇性。不只編曲上令人為之驚嘆，在彈奏技巧上絕對是超技的表現。這些都是浪漫主義所表現的特點。
在情感上，左手的低音和聲彈奏，跳動不安、令人焦躁。搭配上右手主音彈奏，就像是一個若有所思的旅人勿闖進暴風雨當中，由一開始的迷惑進入對未來將會離開暴風雨的想望。藉著美好的幻想，他感覺到四周的風雨似乎也變小了，化為小河的嶙峋。但現實中的風雨忽然狂暴劇烈，將他帶回更強烈的風暴之中。他的身心像陀螺般旋轉下墜。旅人想要抗拒，但仍敵不過強大的外在力量，摔倒、爬起、摔倒、爬起、摔倒，摔在最低的音階上面... ...。那不過是個音階，表達的是一種天氣、心境、社會、幻想。然而如此強烈地想要規避現實的痛苦，最終還是會回到現實。然後發現:掀起波瀾的只是自己的心，外在一切寧靜。寧靜的現實、寧靜的苦難、寧靜的事件、寧靜的暴風雨... ...。
I even like his mistakes, including the last, edited note! There was almost no need to edit it 😌
His passion and depth is completely astonishing, besides his technique- a joy to watch his hands!
Well you've got both versions now, so take your pick. As I said before: it was fun to me...
Nowadays, professional pianists never publish performances with such enormous mistakes anymore, technicians just remove them as I did. RUclips contains a lot of old material when such practices were not common practice.
You're welcome.. With Pollini synchronisation was easy: when his finger reaches the key the tone should come straightaway. And within 1/25th of a second precise on a magnified timescale of the timeline. With normal amateur movies it sometimes is frustrating to look for a clear A/V-moment to sync upon. Professionals use "clap-boards" on purpose for every take..
LIFE IS TOOO SHORT!!
He gives meaning to every note.
Afterwards Liszt supposedly hugged him and promised to always play Chopin's pieces the way they were written.
R.I.P Pollini
@flouz2 I could only correct one, the final one. In general I noted that most people take it for granted that Pollini did NOT make mistakes. While Rubinstein once said that missing notes came naturally to him early in life. When older (beyond 40 years) he cared more for perfection and played much more strict than before...
Best performance of this prelude
Not to nit-pick but there are a small number of mistakes, however, nothing that the average recording doesn't contain. The beautiful thing is Pollini's incredible emotional involvement with the work. Wonderful.
you play it and record it for comparison.
I've been playing this piece for more than 20 years and I heard no mistakes at all. Seriously, who cares? This is top notch playing, both technically and artistically. Playing piano is not about performing perfectly, it's about making music.
@@MarcAmengual 1:24 for example
@@attiliofisher1094 As a pianist myself considering how good Pollini was, I wouldn't even consider that a mistake. Yes, technically it is, but, overall, the quality of the interpretation is amazing, it doesn't break the flow of the piece at all, hard to notice, it's not a studio recording, who cares.
@@MarcAmengual it's a mistake, but a mistake that is completely out from any evaluation about this fantastic performance ...
The absolute best - for me.
The most difficult dance form for non-Polish people is the Mazurka. The variations in tempi are quite tricky to master. A Dutch pianist of the 50's recognised for his Rachmaninoff interpretations, Cor de Groot was well aware of this. This aspect can not be covered by the musical notation, but should be conveyed in person. I still have his historical Mazurka interpretations's in a full set on CD.
Amazing Maurizio Pollini wow!
RIP maestro.
Just 18 years old here !!!
Pollini é um dos maiores pianistas de TODOS os tempos!
Wow mr. Pollini beautiful playing and you were so handsome then.
Such a very difficult piece. Even a pianist as great as Pollini made a few.
what a pleasure to look at pollini´s young mastership.actually i have to admit that i like the young pollini much more than the older,although one could assume that his musical potency must be bigger in the more advanced years,but he has lost so much freshness and composure over the years.
Not in the way I described earlier. I just realised this piece contains two equal notes at the end and copied the first to the last position, after erasing the faulty one. Professional studio's record several takes of the same music and assemble the best parts afterward seamlessly. So they can replace any part they like. However not all pianists like this (Horowitz did not) and rather accept some errors equal to those on live performances.
Legendary playing, most likely my favorite prelude❤
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.❤
Brilliant, priceless footage!
I use the MAGIX Video de luxe (plus) 200x programme, in which this function is present since a number of years, my present version is 2007. I guess Pinnacle provides for the same facility in Pinnacle 10 and 11 (I stopped at version 9 because of too many program crashes, so I did not follow their development). MAGIX VdL provides A/V forward or backward shifts on the sound channel(s) with respect to the image in steps of 1 image minimum to a very high number. (In PAL 25 images equal one frame).
It was fun, despite the extra challenge in 4:3 screenformat and A/V synchronisation... :-D on
PS: In the near future I will also upload Enrico Pace's Liszt performances in the proper format.
the 3rd and 2nd to the last arpeggios are really hard to do :(
a masterpiece.
Just ForLesson definetly
1:02, his face says all about his feelings
A komoly zene csodálatos világa .
@musicioso My student friend once remarked, that once you master the 4 against 3 rythmic difference in the hands, the fantasie impromptu was tecnically not so difficult. But since he could play almost everything he wanted, he might not be the right judge. Préludes possess more problems of a non-technical nature...
The fact that his left hand is so still, planted and barely moves shows how humongous his hands must be
Actually, no. Pollini's hands were very ordinary. The stillness is entirely a result of extreme efficiency of wrist and arm movements.
aw, why'd you go tamper with this amazing piece of footage?
the 'final note' is what made this video epic, man!
brutal music
La leggenda se n'è andata 💔
Thanks a lot for uploading this corrected version :)
mamma mia... mamma mia... this is really out of limits, the real chopin in pollini...
He knows the language, just a different iteration of it.
This is my favorite rendition of this on youtube for the first half. Up until the crazy descending thirds. I think he loses it a bit there. I wish i could trill like that though. Jesus.
まさに天才・・・( -'д-)y-~
天才の名を欲しいままにしていたショパン国際ピアノコンクールのポリーニ・・・( -'д-)y-~
Magistral!!!
For the original with the wrong final note see the version by yoshimaninoff elsewhere. Mine is the one he never played so well :-D on
AspenTom, the same with a slavic feel. Yes, a slavic zeall has a distinct style., so don't confuse that with other nationalities. They call it "zal", a sort of melancholic ache. This Pollini plays a continental Chopin, you might say, not the real thing.
THANKS alot. That really helped me out.
Boy, I'm sure glad I'm ignorant enough to simply enjoy the hell out of Pollini.
A rough ride on the boat from Majorca...
HEAVY METAL MAN!
Chopin to najpiękniejsza spuścizna dla ludzkości.
Anybody know the next time Pollini plays in Milano? Thanks in advance!
Qué idiotez típica de los soberbios y de los critican por tener el complejo de "divinidad griega". Pobres mortales jugando a ser moradores del Olimpo...
Bravo Maestro Pollini!!! Gracias por darnos este placer imperfecto del disfrute de la música de otro imperfecto pero maravillosamente humano: Chopin.
actually i like pollini very much because of his polonaises interpretations. in my opinion he is the best non-polish polonaises interpretator far better than argerich, horowitz, askhenazy and asian pianists.
yeah dude those Asian pianists suck tbh
@mx19idlewilder "most precise" being Zimerman? Never any mistake? Zimerman is legendary for editing many of his recordings, more so than most pianists. So if you want to hear a note perfect pianist, you'll get it with him after he records pieces over and over. I may not be the biggest Pollini fan, which is true, but Zimerman's Chopin is not as precise. The question is whether you think Zimerman has a better style or feel for the music - and that I think is very much a good discussion.
I loved it!!1
I have i question, does anyone know whether Prelude No.24 is harder to play than Fantasie Impromptu? Or not?
No it isn't.
Prelude 24 op. 28 is much more difficult than Fantasia-Impromptu
@@andy85s71 Agreed. The prelude contains many perilous jumps in the left hand which are not noticed by non-pianists, and those thirds near the end are difficult to negotiate in tempo. Even Ashkenazy slows down, as do many others. Not Pollini. Another fabulous note-perfect version is Yuja Wang's live performance in Milan, available on You-Tube.
Excellent 🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🥂🥂🥂🥂🥂🥂
His left hand hardly moves. Amazing tecjni5
браво!
@vanthoff1 Hi Vanthoff. How was Pollini in Berlin? I have the chance to see him pretty soon but have to choose between him and Zimerman. Tough choice, but if it's anything like the Pollini of old I'd choose him.
My point is that music is national, not international.
Most music were composed with the art istic ideals of the composer's native land, ideas culled from local songs and native folkloric dances.
To my great surprise this video outperforms all my other contributions. Twice the Enrico Pace and Fado's popularity and multiple the other ones, in which I put much more creative effort. So from a marketing point of view I'm succesfull, isn't it? Once I contemplated removing it from my overview, now I like the debates it inspires... :-D on (thuis)
WOOOWW!!!!
Genius.
Beau ! Quelle date , cet enregistrement ? 1960 ? ( à cette date Maurizio Pollini avait 18 ans ) .
Sorry i don't understand very well. You say you have a program to erase the mistakes that are did in the piano??
And that all the pianists have their interpretation with many errors but technicians remove them all?
Thanks for your answer.
Do you mean the look on his face?
What happened to Pollini? In his maturity he played with
Arctic chill
how did you sync the video up with the audio?
Could anyone tell how old this footage is?
One person in this thread gambled on 1960, Pollini being 18 years old. Since the original version with this final wrong note seems gone from RUclips we'll never know for sure. The copy I stored someplace on my PC has no timestamp relevant to your question
I see
@classicalalways
you know, i heard krystian's few times live and another few live recordings and actually i didn't heard any single false note during any of chopin's compositions he played.
i.e. mauritzio made few mistakes in this prelude, but despite of this hes got great technique.
but lets be honest - every pianist makes mistakes even the greatest and thats a normal thing because chopin's compositions are so comlicated.
as i said he is the only one who i never heard making any mistake.
Od kiedy Kubica jest pianistą?!
@aldebussy Pollini never the most precise? If there is one thing most people agree about him is that he is the most precise.
He's so young here.
+Mark Swanson Not to young not to master this piece. But as Horowitz once said, most pianists make mistakes or more often drop notes (which Pollini did not). I believe the original version, with the mistake in is gone from RUclips now. The download which I used for correction must be somewhere on my PC (in the XP mode that is).
@@donthuis He did a lot of mistakes... What do you mean with ,,Which Pollini did not"
I made a remark in general on people expecting present pianists in not making mistakes. I saw a lot of RUclips video's with Pollini performng pianoconcerto's and did not note any mistakes. Apparetly there are performances by him with mistakes after all as your post suggests. BTW another extreme example was Cortot, who found momenteous inspiration was the essence of a performance, not technical prowess. @@Seyit-Mehmet
Yes, he made several mistakes. But how he plays, I mean the passion ! Long time ago someone named this piece "Life, Love and Death.
How old was he when this video was recorded?
@donthuis there are more, 1:39, 1:44, 1:58, but great performance nonetheless...
u re right
Which one is the fake?
rzeczywiscie! :)
Even Chopin had admitted to Liszt .....
Sorry. Nothing I've ever read has suggested that. I'll give that Listz was the better concert pianist--and Chopin would likely agree to that.. But for an interpteter of Chopin's works, there was only one, and that would be Chopin. There are numerous sources from that timewho heard both and would support that statement--don't belive me...check Schindler's (Beethoven's first biographer) comparison of the two among many others..
@classicalalways
and yeah, thats ture - discussion about interpretation of the compositions is far better than childish arguing who hits the keyboard clearer.
i'm quite a fan of pollinis talent because of how he plays polonaises. hes the best non-polish interpretor of polonaises and only few polish pianists can play them better than him IMO (i love his version of op.44 who he recorded for DG over 30 years ago).
btw. listen to zimerman's sonata op.35 ruclips.net/video/ihjDQbMTZIo/видео.html (live)=)
@classicalalways
pollini has got a great technique but the most precise pianist who plays chopin is zimerman. this guy is totally awsome. i listened to a lot of his performance and actually i never heard any mistake or false... zimerman has just a gift - he always hits right.
I am not suggesting that one has to be Polish to play Chopin' music right.
Even Chopin had admitted to Liszt upon hearing Liszt play his own compositions that Liszt's interpretation was so far superior to what Chopin could even imagine when he wrote it.
All I said was Chopin's music has its root in various Polish dance forms but .too many pianists pay no attention to that. They are not dancers and it shows in their playing. .
I am saying that a lot of pianists play Chopin
Sbaglio o fa un sacco di errori?
Penso di si
I think that Blechacz plays it better.
ChameauProductions listen to Pogorelich
@FredilYupigo
I distinctly remember reading an eyewitness to Chopin's reaction to Liszt' playing his etudes. I recalled that Chopin said Liszt's imagination exceeded what Chopin himself had hope for in the piece .
Also, if Rachmaninoff said such complements of Horowitz then I think it's utterly ungenuine for Horowitz is an ideosyncratic player not worthy of his fame. Rachmaninoff is a far better interpreter and pianist..
Chopin wrote in a letter himself that he would like to steal from Liszt the way he plays his etudes (op. 10). Its been said in anecdotes that Liszt could instantly sight read them and that he played the second one in octaves. Hard to believe but he must have been an outstanding sight reader. Grieg wrote that Liszt sight read his violin sonata in front of him a tempo while spontaneously arranging both parts (violin and piano) into one which made Grieg laugh "like an idiot".
To Horowitz: Rachmaninoff and him were good friends and frequently played together 4 hands and on 2 pianos (e.g. arrangements of Rach 2 and 3). Rach loved Horowitz playing. He famously said that Horowitz plays the 3rd concerto better than himself and didn't even imagine his second sonata to sound as great as Horowitz arranged it. From most we can read on 19th century pianists, their interpretations were much more free and "ideosyncratic" than teachers and critics would accept today. Thats why Horowitz is called "the last romantic". E.g., Liszt was known to perform pieces differently than written and even said that he wants people to rewrite his pieces and freely improvise on them (thats why Horowitz rearranged rhapsody 2, 15 and 19).
@leopianotuner Both of you need to realize that composers didn't actually have to mean the COMPLIMENTS they were giving to the pianists.
Think about it. If you (a composer) had a world-class pianist playing one of your own compositions. Wouldn't you -at least out of courtesy- tell them how brilliant you thought they were?
It doesn't really mean much. Plus, Rach was known to be overly humble. He -allegedly- told many other pianists the same.
Better impossible, perhaps igual
Most foreign pianists don't pay attention to the authenticating a song. They don't play the music with the original nationalistic flavor. In pop music this is very apparent. Just listen to a french guy sing an American song or an American guy sing a french song and you get the picture.
The same goes for classical music interpretation. Most foreign pianists plays nicely but it is apparent that they have no idea of the music's original songform, and native style.
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He plays without emotion or conviction, nor with slavic zeal.....it sounds somewhat tedious, actually.
... reminds me of the young michelangeli somehow ...
Pollini and Argerich both studied with Michelangeli, and both revered him. It shows.
Pollini is great, but Pogorelich is above.