Same weight as my bike. When I pick it up off the ground I use a technique that was taught to me at the Enduro Park Canada course I took using the handlebar on one side. In case you want to try that sometime...
A very nice video. Enjoyed. I tried this bike and I was surprised how good it was. :) Did you find and problems when using the shifter to change gears, I mean using your foot. Thanks bro.
Not at all. There is a tendency to drop into neutral between first and second, but that only happens when I shift too gently. A good firm shift is needed. The set up for the gear shift lever is a bit low for my boots, and I will raise it, but that's not a problem. I've heard of some false neutrals between 5th and 6th, but I've never experienced them.
@@RetiredAdventureRider I see. When I rode it I had a feeling that it is a "long go" to put it into 2nd. Ok then. Thanks. Can check my content when you can bro. Cheers.
i like the Himalayan 450, but i think i will stick to my Kawasaki Versys 300 (2017), It gives me so much ridingpleasure on small tours, but for the longer rides i'll be riding my harley from 1998
@@RetiredAdventureRider i like many bikes, and love the low displacement ones, but nothing compares to a harley, it's just another way of riding, afterall there are no bad bikes, we just love them, like them, want them or not
The Pan America is not for me. It's very capable at what it does, but I'm not interested in a full-size adventure bike. Too much for me to handle off-road. But I could sell the Harley and buy one of these with lots of cash left over for some big adventures.
I'm still on the stock tires, Ceat. I'm planning to switch to Shinkos in April before the off-road season begins here. The only long-ish ride I've had was about 100 km on the day I bought it. I was still in the break in period, so I was taking it easy. Right now, it's pretty cold and icy here, so I will take a longer ride as soon as it warms up enough. Probably in a couple of weeks. I can't do too much in the depth of winter, even though winters are relatively mild here compared to the rest of Canada.
Much much better wind protection. However, it seems a little flimsy to me, as it's made from thinner plastic with a larger surface exposed to the wind. At full lock, there's a little contact with the mirrors. Maybe it's a bit too big. If I was in the US, I would want to try the WRS screen that Fuzzy Biker uses, but the high delivery costs put me off.
So pretty much on most engineering reality. The thicker the plastic, the tougher it is. Same with frame thickness or diameter. Yes one is lighter but easier to damage. Thicker or larger diameter is of course stronger. It's called engineering reality.
@@jackgriffin8949 I think we all understand that… effectiveness of the size and the protection offered was the question. Just because we note it’s a little flimsy, doesn’t stop it working efficiently.
@@idontwantahandle12345 of course I agree. My point is that in engineering, if the "whatever" is more substantial, there is a difference in performance. This heavier.
There was no negotiating on this bike. The floor price was Canadian 7999. There were some governmental fees and taxes added. I think some dealers are advertising it at about $100 lower, but I haven't seen anything better. There is a small supply, and dealers are able to move them even in a Canadian winter.
As always, the choice depends on your use case. I mostly ride on-road, so both bikes serve for that purpose. The Triumph has 19 inch front wheel and 17 inch rear wheel, so it will handle slightly better on-road and the Himalayan with its 21 inch front wheel will be slightly more capable off-road. The rider's skills might overcome the difference. The Triumph sells for less here in Canada. I don't know enough about the Triumph to say much more. I do some off-road riding, so I definitely wanted the 21 inch front wheel, but the Triumph would have done for 99% of my riding.
That particular triumph isn't very durable, and costs about as much as a BMW to fix. TDubsKid here on RUclips had major issues getting his fixed up from a single offroad drop. Over a $1,000 charge to fix.
How do you find the "rider triangle"? In other words, do you find that your knees are at a comfortable angle? You're taller than I am; I'm 5'10" with a 30 inch inseam. For reference, knowing that you've used an NC750X, I find that my knees are bent more than I like on my NC. I use aftermarket footpegs that give me a little more space. Given that the Himalayan was designed to have a low seat height, I imagine that the distance from the seat to the footpegs is likely to be even less than on my NC. Any comments on that? The info in your videos about the Himalayan is very helpful.
When I look at myself in the video, it looks cramped, but it doesn't feel that way. It's something that I was concerned about, and I still am to a degree. The only longish ride I've had was from the dealer in Victoria to the ferry in Nanaimo, but I was more concerned about missing the ferry (which I did). Keeping the seat in the higher position allows me more freedom of movement on the seat, and I'm probably going to try the rally seat, which will allow me to slide back even more. The next chance I get, I'll go on a ride up to Earl's Cove and re-evaluate the situation. On a long trip on the NC, I'd need to stretch my legs, as well as on the Africa Twin. Probably the only bike I've had that I didn't need to do that was the 650 Special I had in the 80s where I had highway pegs.
Hate those alien looking top cases...top cases in general ruin the look of any bike in my opinion. Air filter under the fuel tank is a killer. Battery, filter and oil change components should all be easy and accessible for the owner. Adventure trips by their nature demand this.
I have a different top case for road trips but I like this one for my daily use. I agree that under the tank air filter is not a great design, but every bike is a compromise, and I don't know what the designers had to work with.
Getting mine this spring!
Great bike in my opinion. Rode it. Can check my content when you can. Cheers.
Same weight as my bike. When I pick it up off the ground I use a technique that was taught to me at the Enduro Park Canada course I took using the handlebar on one side. In case you want to try that sometime...
Good advice. I know my pick up technique is not great and I felt it in my back after my off-road ride. I'm too old to put my back at risk.
You’re the world’s best!
I also love the look of the bike. Will be interesting to see how it does on a BDR.
I think it will do fine. If all works out, video will be coming out some time in August.
A very nice video. Enjoyed. I tried this bike and I was surprised how good it was. :) Did you find and problems when using the shifter to change gears, I mean using your foot. Thanks bro.
Not at all. There is a tendency to drop into neutral between first and second, but that only happens when I shift too gently. A good firm shift is needed. The set up for the gear shift lever is a bit low for my boots, and I will raise it, but that's not a problem. I've heard of some false neutrals between 5th and 6th, but I've never experienced them.
@@RetiredAdventureRider I see. When I rode it I had a feeling that it is a "long go" to put it into 2nd. Ok then. Thanks. Can check my content when you can bro. Cheers.
Stand down first, turn around and walk it up backwards using your knees with straight back, a bit harder if it falls on non stand size.
i like the Himalayan 450, but i think i will stick to my Kawasaki Versys 300 (2017), It gives me so much ridingpleasure on small tours, but for the longer rides i'll be riding my harley from 1998
Ride what you love. When I'm out on longer tours, the numbers tell me that many love their Harleys.
@@RetiredAdventureRider i like many bikes, and love the low displacement ones, but nothing compares to a harley, it's just another way of riding, afterall there are no bad bikes, we just love them, like them, want them or not
If you could choose this bike or the Pan America harley which one would u choose?
The Pan America is not for me. It's very capable at what it does, but I'm not interested in a full-size adventure bike. Too much for me to handle off-road. But I could sell the Harley and buy one of these with lots of cash left over for some big adventures.
How does the himi ride on long hwy rides.what tires are u using
I'm still on the stock tires, Ceat. I'm planning to switch to Shinkos in April before the off-road season begins here. The only long-ish ride I've had was about 100 km on the day I bought it. I was still in the break in period, so I was taking it easy. Right now, it's pretty cold and icy here, so I will take a longer ride as soon as it warms up enough. Probably in a couple of weeks. I can't do too much in the depth of winter, even though winters are relatively mild here compared to the rest of Canada.
How do you think the Givi screen performs versus stock?
Much much better wind protection. However, it seems a little flimsy to me, as it's made from thinner plastic with a larger surface exposed to the wind. At full lock, there's a little contact with the mirrors. Maybe it's a bit too big. If I was in the US, I would want to try the WRS screen that Fuzzy Biker uses, but the high delivery costs put me off.
@ I noticed it looked a little thin and wobbly. Thanks!
So pretty much on most engineering reality. The thicker the plastic, the tougher it is. Same with frame thickness or diameter. Yes one is lighter but easier to damage. Thicker or larger diameter is of course stronger. It's called engineering reality.
@@jackgriffin8949 I think we all understand that… effectiveness of the size and the protection offered was the question. Just because we note it’s a little flimsy, doesn’t stop it working efficiently.
@@idontwantahandle12345 of course I agree. My point is that in engineering, if the "whatever" is more substantial, there is a difference in performance. This heavier.
What was the out the door, final price, if you don't mind me asking?
There was no negotiating on this bike. The floor price was Canadian 7999. There were some governmental fees and taxes added. I think some dealers are advertising it at about $100 lower, but I haven't seen anything better. There is a small supply, and dealers are able to move them even in a Canadian winter.
Himalayan or triumph scrambler 400x? Which one is better pick?
As always, the choice depends on your use case. I mostly ride on-road, so both bikes serve for that purpose. The Triumph has 19 inch front wheel and 17 inch rear wheel, so it will handle slightly better on-road and the Himalayan with its 21 inch front wheel will be slightly more capable off-road. The rider's skills might overcome the difference. The Triumph sells for less here in Canada. I don't know enough about the Triumph to say much more. I do some off-road riding, so I definitely wanted the 21 inch front wheel, but the Triumph would have done for 99% of my riding.
@RetiredAdventureRider thnk you ❤
That particular triumph isn't very durable, and costs about as much as a BMW to fix. TDubsKid here on RUclips had major issues getting his fixed up from a single offroad drop. Over a $1,000 charge to fix.
How do you find the "rider triangle"? In other words, do you find that your knees are at a comfortable angle?
You're taller than I am; I'm 5'10" with a 30 inch inseam. For reference, knowing that you've used an NC750X, I find that my knees are bent more than I like on my NC. I use aftermarket footpegs that give me a little more space. Given that the Himalayan was designed to have a low seat height, I imagine that the distance from the seat to the footpegs is likely to be even less than on my NC. Any comments on that?
The info in your videos about the Himalayan is very helpful.
When I look at myself in the video, it looks cramped, but it doesn't feel that way. It's something that I was concerned about, and I still am to a degree. The only longish ride I've had was from the dealer in Victoria to the ferry in Nanaimo, but I was more concerned about missing the ferry (which I did). Keeping the seat in the higher position allows me more freedom of movement on the seat, and I'm probably going to try the rally seat, which will allow me to slide back even more. The next chance I get, I'll go on a ride up to Earl's Cove and re-evaluate the situation. On a long trip on the NC, I'd need to stretch my legs, as well as on the Africa Twin. Probably the only bike I've had that I didn't need to do that was the 650 Special I had in the 80s where I had highway pegs.
Honda NC500x is almost the same price, does all the things himi does and is 10 times more reliable
I can’t argue with that, but it doesn’t make me love my Himalayan any less
Hate those alien looking top cases...top cases in general ruin the look of any bike in my opinion. Air filter under the fuel tank is a killer. Battery, filter and oil change components should all be easy and accessible for the owner. Adventure trips by their nature demand this.
I have a different top case for road trips but I like this one for my daily use. I agree that under the tank air filter is not a great design, but every bike is a compromise, and I don't know what the designers had to work with.