If that rope found on the horse really belonged to the guy who committed suicide, I think it was him. I can’t believe that a guy who’d already been convicted of rape and kidnapping was not in jail forever. Predators don’t change. Anyone who hunts another person down and rapes them is NEVER going to change and should NEVER be allowed back on the street again. Rape is a serious crime. It ruins the victim’s life, and when these rapists are let out again, they just learn to kill the victim so that they can’t testify against them.
I think it was him, same orchid chemicals, it was HIS own rope. Past history of rapes…but sadly suspicious an circumstances evidence isn’t enough. I believe he lured her by talking to her and maybe built trust with her by talking to her every once in a while. Problem is the events by witnesses saying it looked like she had been in a riding accident
Some people do change and we all make mistakes, some just much bigger. I do think that man was guilty as well, the hairs found in his car, the rope, and the unneeded contact with the family is too much evidence. I don't understand why the police think he "most likely wasn't involved". This proves that their force isn't very competent in my opinion.
Totally the orchard guy! He put himself at the scene with her. His rope tied up the horse. Criminal background of rape and violence. Confessed at one point. Plus as an orchard worker he’d have plenty of places to bury her. Poor girl.
As someone who raised horses, I found this troubling. When I was a kid riding my horse down our country road a guy in a pickup truck had slowed down and said something about the horse. Very creepy vibe. Luckily a tractor came driving toward us and he took off. I never rode down the road again alone. Rest in peace Kirsa.
I'm female, used to ride alone. Learned to ride FAST just in case I had to. And of course horses can go into places trucks can't. That said, it's still risky. But I resent the idea that females can't and shouldn't be free to DO WHAT THEY WANT.
I'm from a country area as well, and used to go on long bicycle rides and nature treks as a teenager. It's an outrage that we women always have to be looking over our shoulder and be on the alert for creeps/potential assailants.
I don’t understand how anyone could dislike your videos. I’ve been a faithful fan for years and even got my husband and friends on them as well. Keep up the good work, some might not appreciate you but the rest of us do.
You can put a video of almost anything on RUclips and *someone* will dislike it - doesn't matter what it is or how well it's done. Never fails to amaze me.
I am deeply sorry for your loss, and pray this case will be resolved, that the perpetrator is brought to justice, and may your beloved Kirsa be recovered, and returned. Until this precious child is found, your extended village carries this burden as an open wound on our hearts. Somebody knows something about the whereabouts of Kirsa! There is no doubt.
Kirsa was such a great teenager, she had been an excellent veterinarian. Her life stolen by a monster. So unfair.....I feel also so bad for their parents, they have not been able to bury her, they don't know where are her remains. So tragic. May God bless Kirsa's soul, nay God bless her dear parents
We should all be ashamed as a society for being so weak and ignorant that we let rapist monsters back out of their cages and let them hurt more people.
Besides, their « disease » it’s like a cronic one, it never heals, it actually worsens; they begin raping and it’s just a matter of time before they start murdering. They simply can not and should not be part of society.
@@alison2649 Yes. People continue not to get it. Read the late American poet Adrienne Rich's great poem (one of her many great poems), "Culture and Anarchy" from the book, A WILD PATIENCE HAS TAKEN ME THIS FAR, W.W. Norton, 1981.
@@bperillo62219 it’s possiable, and the person said they would get her parents, lied and came back with a car and told her they would drive her home or to the hospital
I remember this case. I live in Napier, just off Riverbend Road, opposite Colenso High School and remember the whole town searching the beach . Things like this didn't happen in my town back then - we still talk about it, especially at the moment because St. Augustine's Church has just been pulled down. Thank you for telling this story so well. Keep up the fantastic work👍👍👍💖💖💖
Thank you for covering a NZ case. As usual you have made a great job of presenting another tragedy with compassion. Sadly we have quite a few unsolved disappearances/murders in our beautiful little country.
@@theprettycitykitty9302 If you mean NZ cases-There's Kirsty Bentley and also the well known Crewe murders. All sad but intriguing cases, that need answers.
I used to go riding all by myself as a kid. I never really thought about what could possibly happen, as I was a kid and I was invincible. So sad for her family that there's no real closure.
Criminal:”Yeah, I was with her, the hair matches, that’s my rope, I kidnap and rape women, and I admit to doing the same to her.” The police:”We don’t think it’s him.” What?!
Sounds like the rapist was likely the abducter/killer. He admitted to talking to her and then confessed to the murder and claimed ownership of the rope.. and had abducted people before! 😳 It would be strange if he was not the killer.
So I'm from New Zealand and my friend got that scholarship in the late 2000's, the one etablished in Kirsa Jensen's honour and, tragically, she also died not just too young, but before she'd even turned eighteen. In fact, she died before she'd even started her studies: on her first day of her first O-week, in her first year of university, right before starting her studies at Massey in Veterinary Sciences. Catherine fell from a rope-swing across a gorge, due to a worn rope that snapped as she swung out over the dry riverbed. She was a year ahead of me at Christchurch Girls' High (the same school featured in Heavenly Creatures and where Juliet Hulme & Pauline Parker went to school together), and I'd been in her brother's class every year, barring my first year, until I started at the same high school as her. Catherine and I played in orchestras together around the city, and sang in barbershop together, as well as both being writing & Latin clubs, taking the same subjects & being in the same house at school. We'd been voice-matched together in various choirs for about six years as we'd both received city choir scholarships four years in a row; we even roomed together every single year that our choir travelled for Big Sing (annual NZ high school choral festival). Catherine's dad, like Kirsa's, was also a religious leader, being the chaplain at Christ's College, and hers was (I believe) the last funeral to be held in Christchurch Cathedral (Christchurch NZ, not UK). When Catherine fell, she didn't die immediately, not until two hours later. Knowing her injuries, knowing exactly HOW she died.... well, frankly, it's haunted me for the almost fifteen years it's been since her death. This girl I looked up to, this girl I sang next to, who mentored me through high school, who love Muse and played vinyl records with me in her messy room on Friday afternoons, who loved Lord of the Rings, wore a Fellowship of the Ring ivy leaf pin on her school blazer, and thought it was just the coolest that she knew someone who was a hobbit child in the movies (me)... it just haunted me that my dear friend died, and that she died so horrifically, so suddenly, in so much pain; how very unfair it was that she got everything taken away, that she never got to grow up, and live; that she's never got to show her kindness to the world, to be a positive influence on our community, that she never got to live her dream of caring for animals as a vet, just like she'd always dreamt of becoming. I used to have nightmares about her death weekly... right up until my final year of High School, when the first 2010 earthquake hit. September of 2010 was when my whole city fell, like Catherine but, incredibly, no one died... until Feb 22 of 2011 when, in MY first day of university in Wellington when, in the first 20 minutes of my first lecture, I got a text from my dad saying goodbye, that buildings we collapsing around him, that people were dead, and that he loved me. I didn't hear from anyone I knew or loved until six hours later and I can't convey in words what I experienced. I genuinely do not understand what I did to deserve such blessings, but my dad was amazingly ok (physically) and, touch wood, will continue to be so. I honestly, and with all my heart, thank God every day he was ok. For me, the struggle is with the knowing, and the most pain is the *not* knowing, and the knowledge that you'll probably never know. I've actually submitted a request for you to cover the case a while ago, because I don't even know where to start with it, but my dad's own mother died a suspicious death in 1987 (well before I was born). While it was ruled as an accidental drowning, it's unlikely that's what happened considering how she was found, and how she had no water in her lungs, and her defensive wounds. There is a lot more to go into with her death, but I just fear, in my heart, something like that happening to one or both of my parents or to my siblings, or friends or other family... It's like Catherine's death opened the floodgates, for me: it wasn't just knowledge of events that had occured, or people telling me too much and not being able to get the graphic details out of my head, but for me remembering things that had already happened, as well as new trauma I'd (at that stage) had yet to live through. It wasn't just the earthquakes, either: it was remembering my childhood friend telling me when we were eight about how he had a new name, because he his mother's murder, and how he remembered her head being "white and red inside her face" and how he touched her teeth that fell in the carpet and that his dad cut off his fingertip because he cried; the media circus around Catherine's death, and how life seemed to continue on without her and how unreal it was; those years upon years of the Christchurch earthquakes, as well as the aftershocks and the city-wide shared trauma, PTSD and fear around it all; having colleagues and friends die in both the Ashburton & Christchurch shootings; having my uncle be a first responder to the White Island disaster & him telling me about the stomach-turning details, despite me asking him to stop; my teenage brother throwing a full, steel bottle at my head and my parents accusing me of faking the bruises and scratches on my arms from him; being stalked in my early twenties by someone who I later discovered was a serial rapist, and the survivor's guilt that I was spared the same trauma of his other victims; working in road safety, and having to assist/testify in Coroner crash inquiries and having to not only see the scene autopsy but having to analyse them; being one of the only support people for my friend who would (could) listen to my friend, during the missing period and the aftermath of *her* ex-girlfriend (who was also best & oldest friend) being murdered, and being told, in vivid detail, of how this sweet, kind girl I'd met heaps of times was drugged, then brutally r*ped and assulted for three days, before being bludgeoned and strangled to d3ath; having an uncle die on Christmas Eve 2019 in an horrific train accident, two years after another close friend's father slipped crossing a ravine on a tramp, and what became of both of them, the gruesome manner in which they were found; my close friend being an RA at the hall where a 19 year old student was found in his hall of residence room... six to eight *weeks* after he died, by which stage he was so decomposed they have no idea how he died.... So ..well. please believe I'm not lying when I say I could go on. I've more than once wondered if I'm just some kind of bad luck to everyone around me, but.... I don't know what my point was in listing my traumas, but let's just say I have more nightmares these days than just Catherine's death, and at times it feels like I'll collapse beneath the burdens of survivor's guilt. All this now said... while what I've personally seen and experienced is truly awful, and I'm aware of it, I nonetheless do still believe that there is no comparison to what happened--and still happens--to families like the Jensens. I cannot imagine what it is like to go through losing a child, and then never knowing what happened, what their last few moments were. I didn't know Jensens' story until this video, despite being a New Zealander, and words cannot express how much my heart breaks for them despite this being so many years ago. Losing those to whom we're close doesn't ever get better, even if years go by and you get used to it. My own mother's mother died five days before I was born, and while she was overjoyed to have me, it didn't stop the grief of seeing and nursing her mother, and her slow, painful death of cancer. I'm just so sorry this happened to Kirsa and her family, and I genuinely pray every day for those who have lost their dear loved ones, and for those who must forever live with the pain of not knowing.
Sophia, please turn to Jesus. He will grant you peace and walk with you through your healing. So great is His love for us He died on the cross and rose again. You’ve been through so much in your young life; don’t feel there isn’t anything good, or sweet, or wonderful coming your way.
Mona Blades, another famous NZ missing person was last seen near Napier a few years prior in 1975. Two teenage girls vanishing in the same locality, both involving cars, seems pretty suspicious to me. Wonder if anyone's considered there might be a connection between Mona and Kirsa's disappearances before.
Hey there, may I suggest a video about the unsolved Victorian child murder of John Gill in 1888? The way the poor kid was killed led the press at the time believing that "Jack The Ripper" was involved.
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I was born in Napier and still live in New Zealand. This is a well-known case and still spoken of. The disappearance of Kiras Jensen is a story I've known since I was a child. I truly hope the mystery of what happened to her is one day finally solved
To never find out what happened must be the worst pain imaginable. Poor Kirsa. She sounds like a beautiful person who had so much to give to the world. My heart breaks 💔 for all those who love her and for Apollo her beloved horse 🐎
To all those souls who awoke to the day they stepped into the oblivion, may their energy reunite with their loved ones once again in that place where only love can transcend
Something about this case makes no sense... How could she have gotten to so many places in such a short amount of time? All these people kept claiming they'd seen her all over the place in the short time between 2:45 and 5:00 pm? I'm sorry, but seeing some girl randomly riding a horse through towns and villages seems to me like a very strikingly odd event that one wouldn't soon forget! Usually, people would ride a horse on a horse track or in an enclosed field. They wouldn't just gallop through town! And in my view, if all these dozens of people did actually see her, wouldn't they have better information to share with police in order to pinpoint her locations at specific times? Again, if I saw a girl riding a horse through my town, I would surely remember it for years to come!
Breaks my heart. New Zealand is too small with too sweet of people for something like this to happen. I know, it can happen anywhere, but New Zealand is a beautiful country with some of the most incredibly kind people I have ever encountered, as a country, they don’t deserve this!
Truly heartbreaking story, I pray for Justice 🙏🏽🕊️ and one day she will be found..... My heart goes out to her family..... Sending positive energy and loving prayers to her Mother ❤️💖🧡💜💕❣️💓
I will never forget this case. I was twenty years old and this was massive news here. Everyone here recalls the re-enactments of "Kirsa" walking "Commodore" along the beach and a lot of photos of this girl, who was abducted and murdered by, most likely though not conclusively, John Russell. I can only try to imagine her mothers anguish and hope she sleeps well, knowing she has done all she could. I'd like to add to the list, Mona Blades (18yr old. Missing since 1975), Jennifer Beard (25 yr old holidaying Aussie school teacher,1969). Joanne Chatfield (aged 17, missing since 1996). Amber-Lee Cruikshank (2yrs old, missing since 1992) Kirsty Bentley who was murdered at the age of 15, New Years eve, 1998. Her body was found by some cannabis growers up in the area where their plot was located. They were concerned about the legality of their situation but felt that the police needed to know. So, as soon as the cops were given the information, they went and located Kirsty's body and then summarily arrested the two men that lead them to finding her. Thank you, *+Dark Curiosities* for this particular episode. It seems the whole world over, females of all ages are targeted by those that think they've got the right to treat them as objects, rather than the equal of all humans.
This is such a sad story. I hope and pray her moms hearts wish can be met before she passes from this world. There may be no evidence she died, however, I don't believe Kirsa wouldn't have tried after so many years not to try to contact her family if she was still alive. I believe the man who committed suicide, hurt her in some way. And because of his selfish act, he took that secret to his grave. This just brought me to tears. Hold on to your blessings, and love them. For you never know if you have to go through the pain of losing a child. Too many families are going through this even now. And, it's horrible .
Unfortunately, there is always the possibility of kidnapping for sex trade. She was a young cute blonde girl. So sad there has been nothing to give the family hope or closure.
That poor child and her grieving family. What a strong, great mother! I believe young Ms. Jensen was violently abducted, probably at gunpoint, and that the gunman (or gunmen) made threats against her beloved horse. Should these men ever be arrested, tried and convicted, the death penalty is far too merciful a punishment. I don't care what the New Testament says, we as human beings who value light and love GET TO JUDGE THESE PREDATORS.
I wonder if someone approached her asking if they could pet her horse, and she reluctantly did. I was told to never do that, ride away. You don't want to be rude to people, it's awkward but I wonder if he asked, then took her horse's bridle off. Of course, if you politely say no and take off, you can still have an accident. When I was her age and younger, if my fronds and I (usually just two of us at a time) saw suspicious people, we'd hurry back home. We didn't want to be rude if someone asked to pet our horses, but we'd get in deep trouble if strangers were with us. That horse defenitely (imp) would have had a fearful reaction to the perpetrator, especially knowing he was still very agitated when found. Did they see signs of an accident in the sand, like hoof prints somewhere indicating something happened? Or just the bridle pieces? That's so sad, she had a way of escape, but this person or people, were determined to get her.
Firstly, people DO just vanish without a trace in broad daylight.. secondly, this is my absolute worst nightmare.. that and losing your gf/wife. Ughh … no thanks
I always heard growing up that the cops always thought she ended up either going through a near by bone meal plant or in to the floor of ravens down as the concrete was being poured
I just don't understand why someone would take anyone against there will especially a young child to do horrific an unthinkable things and even murder. For what! I just don't understand and will never understand prayers for the family always! God bless....
@@ballerman22345 THIS. Most people feel worse for squashing a bug than these types do for killing a human. Their brains are just wired wrong and they need to be kept away from society. Pretty good chance it's the guy who killed himself, who should have already been in a cage for previous rapes and never had the chance to hurt her.
😢 Poor Commodore. His heart would have been breaking never seeing his lovely little special human again. It is a loss to Animals that this sweet young Lady never got to grow up and become Dr.Kirsa, DVM. As for her family, well nothing & no length of time can ever remove their pain.💔❣️ Rest In Peace Kirsa. 🐴🌹😔🌹🐎🐾🌈☮️🇨🇦
Stunningly sad day when this Lass was gone. The Police and others, knew who did this, but proving was obviously not possible. Raised in Napier for a while, worked in Napier for a while-and this Girls end was bitter tears for years.
It breaks my heart,who could hurt this beautiful child? Well, I suppose that’s a dumb question. We all know what type of person could-a man. 😩😔😡Anyway, the thought of someone taking my baby girl away from me is too much. I can only imagine this poor poor mothers pain.
In my opinion Kirsa was raped & murdered. A lone teenage girl, without any or much money definitely wasn't a robbery. As to date, it's been 38 years Kirsa is missing. She's dead.
I drive past quite often the last known place of Kirsa's sighting ? And always think of her. RIP beautiful Kirsa. Such evil is beyond me! God will punish that wicked inhumane monster
I own and ride horses, I have for my entire life. We need to know more about the horse. What was she riding, english, western, or bareback? I would strongly assume she was riding english considering where she lived and that she was riding english in the photo. That's still just an assumption, as I ride western mostly but depending on the trail and if we're going to be jumping, I'd ride english or bareback depending on the height of the jumps. How was her horse's temperament? Was Commodore gelded? Was he a sound trail horse? Was he easy going or high strung? Did he have a tendency to spook easily? Did she ride with a helmet? Had he ever thrown her off before? Did he spook around people? Could a person spook him if they tried? These might seem random but these are questions that provided the answers to, would be very indicative of what could have happened to her. _(Note that I'm wrote this yet haven't finished the video so I don't currently yet know if she was eventually recovered or not.)_
I went to my home town napier and sat on the beach all but one of the bunkers have gone curious if any one knows if the remaini g bunker is the one associated with her disappearance ect i go to that beach once a month would lpve to know all i can if u know of documentaries ect wpuld love to watch or read ect
A rapist will ALWAYS be a rapist. They will NEVER change. They just learn to kill their victims instead of leaving them alive. And rapists who commit suicide usually do so so they won't face trial. I think that orchard worker abducted, raped, and killed her, and because he took his own life, they may never find her.
I remember and to this day I speculate about that lime works site there. Why was that not searched or at least interview the creepy dudes that work there
Just watched a video on quicksand, so, of course it is at the tops of my thoughts. It can turn up just about anywhere near water, and can even come and go. This is a long shot, but possible, if she went for a walk while waiting inhopes of her parents coming to help.
If that rope found on the horse really belonged to the guy who committed suicide, I think it was him. I can’t believe that a guy who’d already been convicted of rape and kidnapping was not in jail forever. Predators don’t change. Anyone who hunts another person down and rapes them is NEVER going to change and should NEVER be allowed back on the street again. Rape is a serious crime. It ruins the victim’s life, and when these rapists are let out again, they just learn to kill the victim so that they can’t testify against them.
Our justice is a sick joke.
I think it was him, same orchid chemicals, it was HIS own rope. Past history of rapes…but sadly suspicious an circumstances evidence isn’t enough.
I believe he lured her by talking to her and maybe built trust with her by talking to her every once in a while.
Problem is the events by witnesses saying it looked like she had been in a riding accident
Spot on 😢
It was him
Some people do change and we all make mistakes, some just much bigger.
I do think that man was guilty as well, the hairs found in his car, the rope, and the unneeded contact with the family is too much evidence. I don't understand why the police think he "most likely wasn't involved". This proves that their force isn't very competent in my opinion.
Totally the orchard guy! He put himself at the scene with her. His rope tied up the horse. Criminal background of rape and violence. Confessed at one point. Plus as an orchard worker he’d have plenty of places to bury her. Poor girl.
As someone who raised horses, I found this troubling. When I was a kid riding my horse down our country road a guy in a pickup truck had slowed down and said something about the horse. Very creepy vibe. Luckily a tractor came driving toward us and he took off. I never rode down the road again alone. Rest in peace Kirsa.
I'm female, used to ride alone. Learned to ride FAST just in case I had to. And of course horses can go into places trucks can't. That said, it's still risky. But I resent the idea that females can't and shouldn't be free to DO WHAT THEY WANT.
God sent that tractor down the road for you.
@@silverstuff182 You're absolutely right.
I'm from a country area as well, and used to go on long bicycle rides and nature treks as a teenager. It's an outrage that we women always have to be looking over our shoulder and be on the alert for creeps/potential assailants.
@@maxalberts2003 ...God sent a tractor to save this person on youtube, but looked away when Kirsa was likely abducted and murdered?
I don’t understand how anyone could dislike your videos. I’ve been a faithful fan for years and even got my husband and friends on them as well. Keep up the good work, some might not appreciate you but the rest of us do.
People who dislike these videos are nasty scummy c@nts who have no empathy or sympathy for people. Vile pieces of sh1t
You can put a video of almost anything on RUclips and *someone* will dislike it - doesn't matter what it is or how well it's done. Never fails to amaze me.
Me and all my friends always dislike our favorite videos, so if you ever see a dislike on one of your videos you should just assume it was one of us.
Popular videos will always have some dislikes.
I agree. If these videos help bring some new evidence to light, from viewers, then surely it's for the good of the families, who have no answers.
This haunts our Country.Would love Kirsa's mystery to be solved.
Hope so family and friends need closure/justice 🙏🇬🇧👍
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I am deeply sorry for your loss, and pray this case will be resolved, that the perpetrator is brought to justice, and may your beloved Kirsa be recovered, and returned. Until this precious child is found, your extended village carries this burden as an open wound on our hearts. Somebody knows something about the whereabouts of Kirsa! There is no doubt.
That we would. This and the Crewes murders
Kirsa was such a great teenager, she had been an excellent veterinarian. Her life stolen by a monster. So unfair.....I feel also so bad for their parents, they have not been able to bury her, they don't know where are her remains. So tragic. May God bless Kirsa's soul, nay God bless her dear parents
We should all be ashamed as a society for being so weak and ignorant that we let rapist monsters back out of their cages and let them hurt more people.
Besides, their « disease » it’s like a cronic one, it never heals, it actually worsens; they begin raping and it’s just a matter of time before they start murdering.
They simply can not and should not be part of society.
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@@alison2649 Yes. People continue not to get it. Read the late American poet Adrienne Rich's great poem (one of her many great poems), "Culture and Anarchy" from the book, A WILD PATIENCE HAS TAKEN ME THIS FAR, W.W. Norton, 1981.
@@alison2649, you sexist..as if women don't abuse, rape, lie, steal, murder, torture, exploit, aso aso. Blind child.
Yep women never do this, only men.
A very tragic and sad story, the feeling of lose, grief and lack of closure for the family must be a horrible experience.
I think it's possible that maybe someone spooked the horse, which bucked her off and caused her to hit her head, and she was abducted from there.
I was wondering if something like this happened to her as well. It makes sense considering the blood on her face.
Good theory.
@@bperillo62219 it’s possiable, and the person said they would get her parents, lied and came back with a car and told her they would drive her home or to the hospital
I remember this case. I live in Napier, just off Riverbend Road, opposite Colenso High School and remember the whole town searching the beach . Things like this didn't happen in my town back then - we still talk about it, especially at the moment because St. Augustine's Church has just been pulled down. Thank you for telling this story so well. Keep up the fantastic work👍👍👍💖💖💖
P.S. your pronunciation was perfect - some of those Maori names are tricky but you nailed them.
Just curious , but why would a church be pulled down? Seems to give the story an even more somber note, if that’s possible. 🌸
I live in Colenso Place.in Leeds Uk
Thank you for covering a NZ case. As usual you have made a great job of presenting another tragedy with compassion. Sadly we have quite a few unsolved disappearances/murders in our beautiful little country.
Could you, perhaps, suggest other cases? Would be great to get exposure for them.
@@theprettycitykitty9302 If you mean NZ cases-There's Kirsty Bentley and also the well known Crewe murders. All sad but intriguing cases, that need answers.
I used to go riding all by myself as a kid. I never really thought about what could possibly happen, as I was a kid and I was invincible.
So sad for her family that there's no real closure.
I did too.
@Grace Jaye you were very fortunate.
I always think about Kirsa, and wonder what happened, one of our biggest mysteries here in NZ
Criminal:”Yeah, I was with her, the hair matches, that’s my rope, I kidnap and rape women, and I admit to doing the same to her.”
The police:”We don’t think it’s him.”
What?!
Thanks for these great uploads.You bring to light cases many have never heard of or have simply been forgotton.
Such a sad story, very respectfully done DC.
Damn 4 vids this week, no complaints.
This channel should have more subscribers. It's severely underrated
I love listening to your videos while I’m at work, driving, or just cleaning my house. Thankyou keep up the good work❤️❤️
Sounds like the rapist was likely the abducter/killer. He admitted to talking to her and then confessed to the murder and claimed ownership of the rope.. and had abducted people before! 😳 It would be strange if he was not the killer.
Oh man you're on fire lately! Keep up the good work lassie!
If only the horse could talk....
Narration is first class ! Love these videos.
So I'm from New Zealand and my friend got that scholarship in the late 2000's, the one etablished in Kirsa Jensen's honour and, tragically, she also died not just too young, but before she'd even turned eighteen. In fact, she died before she'd even started her studies: on her first day of her first O-week, in her first year of university, right before starting her studies at Massey in Veterinary Sciences.
Catherine fell from a rope-swing across a gorge, due to a worn rope that snapped as she swung out over the dry riverbed. She was a year ahead of me at Christchurch Girls' High (the same school featured in Heavenly Creatures and where Juliet Hulme & Pauline Parker went to school together), and I'd been in her brother's class every year, barring my first year, until I started at the same high school as her. Catherine and I played in orchestras together around the city, and sang in barbershop together, as well as both being writing & Latin clubs, taking the same subjects & being in the same house at school. We'd been voice-matched together in various choirs for about six years as we'd both received city choir scholarships four years in a row; we even roomed together every single year that our choir travelled for Big Sing (annual NZ high school choral festival). Catherine's dad, like Kirsa's, was also a religious leader, being the chaplain at Christ's College, and hers was (I believe) the last funeral to be held in Christchurch Cathedral (Christchurch NZ, not UK).
When Catherine fell, she didn't die immediately, not until two hours later. Knowing her injuries, knowing exactly HOW she died.... well, frankly, it's haunted me for the almost fifteen years it's been since her death. This girl I looked up to, this girl I sang next to, who mentored me through high school, who love Muse and played vinyl records with me in her messy room on Friday afternoons, who loved Lord of the Rings, wore a Fellowship of the Ring ivy leaf pin on her school blazer, and thought it was just the coolest that she knew someone who was a hobbit child in the movies (me)... it just haunted me that my dear friend died, and that she died so horrifically, so suddenly, in so much pain; how very unfair it was that she got everything taken away, that she never got to grow up, and live; that she's never got to show her kindness to the world, to be a positive influence on our community, that she never got to live her dream of caring for animals as a vet, just like she'd always dreamt of becoming. I used to have nightmares about her death weekly... right up until my final year of High School, when the first 2010 earthquake hit.
September of 2010 was when my whole city fell, like Catherine but, incredibly, no one died... until Feb 22 of 2011 when, in MY first day of university in Wellington when, in the first 20 minutes of my first lecture, I got a text from my dad saying goodbye, that buildings we collapsing around him, that people were dead, and that he loved me. I didn't hear from anyone I knew or loved until six hours later and I can't convey in words what I experienced. I genuinely do not understand what I did to deserve such blessings, but my dad was amazingly ok (physically) and, touch wood, will continue to be so. I honestly, and with all my heart, thank God every day he was ok.
For me, the struggle is with the knowing, and the most pain is the *not* knowing, and the knowledge that you'll probably never know. I've actually submitted a request for you to cover the case a while ago, because I don't even know where to start with it, but my dad's own mother died a suspicious death in 1987 (well before I was born). While it was ruled as an accidental drowning, it's unlikely that's what happened considering how she was found, and how she had no water in her lungs, and her defensive wounds. There is a lot more to go into with her death, but I just fear, in my heart, something like that happening to one or both of my parents or to my siblings, or friends or other family...
It's like Catherine's death opened the floodgates, for me: it wasn't just knowledge of events that had occured, or people telling me too much and not being able to get the graphic details out of my head, but for me remembering things that had already happened, as well as new trauma I'd (at that stage) had yet to live through.
It wasn't just the earthquakes, either: it was remembering my childhood friend telling me when we were eight about how he had a new name, because he his mother's murder, and how he remembered her head being "white and red inside her face" and how he touched her teeth that fell in the carpet and that his dad cut off his fingertip because he cried; the media circus around Catherine's death, and how life seemed to continue on without her and how unreal it was; those years upon years of the Christchurch earthquakes, as well as the aftershocks and the city-wide shared trauma, PTSD and fear around it all; having colleagues and friends die in both the Ashburton & Christchurch shootings; having my uncle be a first responder to the White Island disaster & him telling me about the stomach-turning details, despite me asking him to stop; my teenage brother throwing a full, steel bottle at my head and my parents accusing me of faking the bruises and scratches on my arms from him; being stalked in my early twenties by someone who I later discovered was a serial rapist, and the survivor's guilt that I was spared the same trauma of his other victims; working in road safety, and having to assist/testify in Coroner crash inquiries and having to not only see the scene autopsy but having to analyse them; being one of the only support people for my friend who would (could) listen to my friend, during the missing period and the aftermath of *her* ex-girlfriend (who was also best & oldest friend) being murdered, and being told, in vivid detail, of how this sweet, kind girl I'd met heaps of times was drugged, then brutally r*ped and assulted for three days, before being bludgeoned and strangled to d3ath; having an uncle die on Christmas Eve 2019 in an horrific train accident, two years after another close friend's father slipped crossing a ravine on a tramp, and what became of both of them, the gruesome manner in which they were found; my close friend being an RA at the hall where a 19 year old student was found in his hall of residence room... six to eight *weeks* after he died, by which stage he was so decomposed they have no idea how he died....
So ..well. please believe I'm not lying when I say I could go on. I've more than once wondered if I'm just some kind of bad luck to everyone around me, but.... I don't know what my point was in listing my traumas, but let's just say I have more nightmares these days than just Catherine's death, and at times it feels like I'll collapse beneath the burdens of survivor's guilt.
All this now said... while what I've personally seen and experienced is truly awful, and I'm aware of it, I nonetheless do still believe that there is no comparison to what happened--and still happens--to families like the Jensens. I cannot imagine what it is like to go through losing a child, and then never knowing what happened, what their last few moments were. I didn't know Jensens' story until this video, despite being a New Zealander, and words cannot express how much my heart breaks for them despite this being so many years ago. Losing those to whom we're close doesn't ever get better, even if years go by and you get used to it. My own mother's mother died five days before I was born, and while she was overjoyed to have me, it didn't stop the grief of seeing and nursing her mother, and her slow, painful death of cancer. I'm just so sorry this happened to Kirsa and her family, and I genuinely pray every day for those who have lost their dear loved ones, and for those who must forever live with the pain of not knowing.
Wow, that is so much to process and cope with....
Sophia, please turn to Jesus. He will grant you peace and walk with you through your healing. So great is His love for us He died on the cross and rose again. You’ve been through so much in your young life; don’t feel there isn’t anything good, or sweet, or wonderful coming your way.
I absolutely love your voice , the diction is so clear you could read out the phone directory and I'd still listen to you .
What a tragic sad case,I really hope her parents find out who took her and that person is brought to justice.
Thank you for covering this. Our country is still distressed over Kirsa. She was my age. Just 6 months younger. 😢
Mona Blades, another famous NZ missing person was last seen near Napier a few years prior in 1975. Two teenage girls vanishing in the same locality, both involving cars, seems pretty suspicious to me. Wonder if anyone's considered there might be a connection between Mona and Kirsa's disappearances before.
Such a sad case. Thank you for bringing this to us.
Hey there, may I suggest a video about the unsolved Victorian child murder of John Gill in 1888? The way the poor kid was killed led the press at the time believing that "Jack The Ripper" was involved.
I have never heard of the John Gill case but it sounds like something worth investigating.
The media at the time assigned any mysterious case between 1888-1900 to Jack the Ripper regardless of how ridiculous the idea was lol
If people don't like your videos they don't have to watch. I Love them your voice is beautiful. Thank you for very hard work and research. Keep up the excellent work.❤
Such a sad case. Thank you for covering it.
I was born in Napier and still live in New Zealand. This is a well-known case and still spoken of. The disappearance of Kiras Jensen is a story I've known since I was a child. I truly hope the mystery of what happened to her is one day finally solved
im not even a parent but i cant imagine the fear the parents felt! i was only 14 at that time....i cant imagine what she went through (
To never find out what happened must be the worst pain imaginable. Poor Kirsa. She sounds like a beautiful person who had so much to give to the world. My heart breaks 💔 for all those who love her and for Apollo her beloved horse 🐎
To all those souls who awoke to the day they stepped into the oblivion, may their energy reunite with their loved ones once again in that place where only love can transcend
Something about this case makes no sense... How could she have gotten to so many places in such a short amount of time? All these people kept claiming they'd seen her all over the place in the short time between 2:45 and 5:00 pm? I'm sorry, but seeing some girl randomly riding a horse through towns and villages seems to me like a very strikingly odd event that one wouldn't soon forget! Usually, people would ride a horse on a horse track or in an enclosed field. They wouldn't just gallop through town! And in my view, if all these dozens of people did actually see her, wouldn't they have better information to share with police in order to pinpoint her locations at specific times? Again, if I saw a girl riding a horse through my town, I would surely remember it for years to come!
Very interesting program.Plis don't stop.🌄😁
Breaks my heart. New Zealand is too small with too sweet of people for something like this to happen. I know, it can happen anywhere, but New Zealand is a beautiful country with some of the most incredibly kind people I have ever encountered, as a country, they don’t deserve this!
Truly heartbreaking story, I pray for Justice 🙏🏽🕊️ and one day she will be found..... My heart goes out to her family..... Sending positive energy and loving prayers to her Mother ❤️💖🧡💜💕❣️💓
I will never forget this case. I was twenty years old and this was massive news here. Everyone here recalls the re-enactments of "Kirsa" walking "Commodore" along the beach and a lot of photos of this girl, who was abducted and murdered by, most likely though not conclusively, John Russell. I can only try to imagine her mothers anguish and hope she sleeps well, knowing she has done all she could.
I'd like to add to the list, Mona Blades (18yr old. Missing since 1975), Jennifer Beard (25 yr old holidaying Aussie school teacher,1969). Joanne Chatfield (aged 17, missing since 1996). Amber-Lee Cruikshank (2yrs old, missing since 1992) Kirsty Bentley who was murdered at the age of 15, New Years eve, 1998. Her body was found by some cannabis growers up in the area where their plot was located. They were concerned about the legality of their situation but felt that the police needed to know. So, as soon as the cops were given the information, they went and located Kirsty's body and then summarily arrested the two men that lead them to finding her.
Thank you, *+Dark Curiosities* for this particular episode. It seems the whole world over, females of all ages are targeted by those that think they've got the right to treat them as objects, rather than the equal of all humans.
This is such a sad story. I hope and pray her moms hearts wish can be met before she passes from this world. There may be no evidence she died, however, I don't believe Kirsa wouldn't have tried after so many years not to try to contact her family if she was still alive. I believe the man who committed suicide, hurt her in some way. And because of his selfish act, he took that secret to his grave. This just brought me to tears. Hold on to your blessings, and love them. For you never know if you have to go through the pain of losing a child. Too many families are going through this even now. And, it's horrible .
Love your channel keep up the great work.
Unfortunately, there is always the possibility of kidnapping for sex trade. She was a young cute blonde girl. So sad there has been nothing to give the family hope or closure.
Nothing worse in the world than losing your child.🙏
That poor child and her grieving family. What a strong, great mother! I believe young Ms. Jensen was violently abducted, probably at gunpoint, and that the gunman (or gunmen) made threats against her beloved horse. Should these men ever be arrested, tried and convicted, the death penalty is far too merciful a punishment. I don't care what the New Testament says, we as human beings who value light and love GET TO JUDGE THESE PREDATORS.
I wonder if someone approached her asking if they could pet her horse, and she reluctantly did. I was told to never do that, ride away. You don't want to be rude to people, it's awkward but I wonder if he asked, then took her horse's bridle off. Of course, if you politely say no and take off, you can still have an accident. When I was her age and younger, if my fronds and I (usually just two of us at a time) saw suspicious people, we'd hurry back home. We didn't want to be rude if someone asked to pet our horses, but we'd get in deep trouble if strangers were with us. That horse defenitely (imp) would have had a fearful reaction to the perpetrator, especially knowing he was still very agitated when found. Did they see signs of an accident in the sand, like hoof prints somewhere indicating something happened? Or just the bridle pieces? That's so sad, she had a way of escape, but this person or people, were determined to get her.
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Grew up in new Zealand this girl was my age I remember it well very tragic.
Bless the family hope this case can be solved after all this time 🙏
Her name was/is beautiful ❤️ RIP 🙏🏾
Ravensdown is shown in the background of the image where the cop is leaving flowers at Kirsa's grave. With the two big stacks
Its tragic about what happened to her i hope that one day her family can find out the truth once and for all.
I went to school with Kirsa she was a
very quiet and intelligent girl
Firstly, people DO just vanish without a trace in broad daylight.. secondly, this is my absolute worst nightmare.. that and losing your gf/wife. Ughh … no thanks
Its probably someone who knew Kirsa and knew the horse as well.
Your voice could soothe me to sleep in minutes. Couldn't imagine tryna sleep with a somerset accent 😂😂
Ooh arr nothing wrong with a Zumerzet accent ..😃😃
I remember this happening. I used to live in Napier. It was a shock to many as crime was pretty low back then.
Why are humans so horrible 😢
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I always heard growing up that the cops always thought she ended up either going through a near by bone meal plant or in to the floor of ravens down as the concrete was being poured
They thought she was walking in a place where they were pouring concrete????
How very sad. I pray that she will be found and give peace to her parents.
People ride horses up and down this beach to this day.
I just don't understand why someone would take anyone against there will especially a young child to do horrific an unthinkable things and even murder. For what! I just don't understand and will never understand prayers for the family always! God bless....
They are predators. They don't think like caring humans. They are driven by pure evil.
@@ballerman22345 THIS. Most people feel worse for squashing a bug than these types do for killing a human. Their brains are just wired wrong and they need to be kept away from society. Pretty good chance it's the guy who killed himself, who should have already been in a cage for previous rapes and never had the chance to hurt her.
Heartbreaking 💔
Decent job pronouncing Pohutukawa btw
Whakatane is pronounced like 'faka-ta-nay'
😢 Poor Commodore. His heart would have been breaking never seeing his lovely little special human again. It is a loss to Animals that this sweet young Lady never got to grow up and become Dr.Kirsa, DVM.
As for her family, well nothing & no length of time can ever remove their pain.💔❣️
Rest In Peace Kirsa.
🐴🌹😔🌹🐎🐾🌈☮️🇨🇦
"And when women say we are afraid of men, men still ask why."
Doesn't say much for your fathers and brothers.
Can you please add captions please.Thanks 😊
At the lower-right of the video, if you hover the mouse there you will see the option "CC" -- click on it.
God, this is awful. And such an accomplished, promising young woman. I feel terrible for her family.
Why do people admit to murder when they didn't commit it?
They're playing mind games. Games of the insane.
Very,very sad . Poor girl and her family
Stunningly sad day when this Lass was gone. The Police and others, knew who did this, but proving was obviously not possible. Raised in Napier for a while, worked in Napier for a while-and this Girls end was bitter tears for years.
It breaks my heart,who could hurt this beautiful child? Well, I suppose that’s a dumb question. We all know what type of person could-a man. 😩😔😡Anyway, the thought of someone taking my baby girl away from me is too much. I can only imagine this poor poor mothers pain.
Must be hellish for the family not knowing what happened to her.
In my opinion Kirsa was raped & murdered. A lone teenage girl, without any or much money definitely wasn't a robbery. As to date, it's been 38 years Kirsa is missing. She's dead.
I drive past quite often the last known place of Kirsa's sighting ? And always think of her. RIP beautiful Kirsa. Such evil is beyond me! God will punish that wicked inhumane monster
I own and ride horses, I have for my entire life. We need to know more about the horse. What was she riding, english, western, or bareback? I would strongly assume she was riding english considering where she lived and that she was riding english in the photo. That's still just an assumption, as I ride western mostly but depending on the trail and if we're going to be jumping, I'd ride english or bareback depending on the height of the jumps. How was her horse's temperament? Was Commodore gelded? Was he a sound trail horse? Was he easy going or high strung? Did he have a tendency to spook easily? Did she ride with a helmet? Had he ever thrown her off before? Did he spook around people? Could a person spook him if they tried? These might seem random but these are questions that provided the answers to, would be very indicative of what could have happened to her.
_(Note that I'm wrote this yet haven't finished the video so I don't currently yet know if she was eventually recovered or not.)_
I went to my home town napier and sat on the beach all but one of the bunkers have gone curious if any one knows if the remaini g bunker is the one associated with her disappearance ect i go to that beach once a month would lpve to know all i can if u know of documentaries ect wpuld love to watch or read ect
So sad. Idk how people make it thru horrors like this. Never knowing. God bless this poor fam. Thanks DC🙏💔🦌
Not much of a mystery. Russell did it.
I live a stones throw from where she was taken.... love to know what happened. Scary to think about
So sad 😞
I would like to hear more stories that were solved.
A rapist will ALWAYS be a rapist. They will NEVER change. They just learn to kill their victims instead of leaving them alive. And rapists who commit suicide usually do so so they won't face trial. I think that orchard worker abducted, raped, and killed her, and because he took his own life, they may never find her.
murder not good
Nailed it.
Think so?
I remember and to this day I speculate about that lime works site there. Why was that not searched or at least interview the creepy dudes that work there
I think perhaps that man tied her horse and got her in his van in pretense of taking her home. Terrible fate for this poor girl and family.
thank you for taking the time to turn on subs, i am deaf hehe
The horse saw what happened but it can't tell us. Just a thought.
Just watched a video on quicksand, so, of course it is at the tops of my thoughts. It can turn up just about anywhere near water, and can even come and go. This is a long shot, but possible, if she went for a walk while waiting inhopes of her parents coming to help.
Don't think Awatoto beach is a black stone beach, not sand.
Girl you're on 🔥
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i remember this the whole country stopped it was the only thing in the news
I'm a kiwi, how did I not know about this??
Dunno, it was all over the news for years. Maybe you're still young.
那些杀人犯真是罪该万死！
*Disorientated*
Jesus, she would be my age now...
Was there DNA on the rope and what about the way it was tied
Colenso high school?