What I did is add four SSL SiX 500 series in a rack to the original Six. Works great. Wellllll, two so far. The other two have been on a container ship somewhere for the past 6 months. If Sam could take a small dingy out to the ship and grab those, I would be grateful 😄
i can bet ssl are being requested to make a bigger version with even more channels before what we have is a full on console for a serious studio this is extremely nice though for smaller semi pros
GOT MY BIG SIX FROM THESE GUYS! & A OB6 DESK TOP SYNTH! THEN A UF8 & UC1 . MAY BUY ANOTHER UF8 after seeing this video, please post more detail on this desk & setup options & I will taxi it down again from central London to grab another UF8 bits! Great store much better then my local store ( PMT old street) thank you guys at Andertons Music 👍😀
I do like Andertons and have bought many synths (Prophet Six, OB6, Polybrute, Summit more) and recording gear from them, but the guys at PMT (Old street and Newcastle... I get around) are superb. Also Juno, DJ , GAK etc. We need more music stores around the country, PMT has stores around the country and is to be appreciated.
So, I don't think you guys dipped into the parallel compression thing. You almost did. Or did I miss it. I would like to see a video on expansion setups mentioned here. Like adding a SiX and what is redundant or using 500 series SiX pre's, and what not. I'd like to see demonstrated how much one can grow the system starting with the Big SiX.
I want to know more depth about the A to D and D to A conversion. Other products for converters talk about the clock and jitter for high quality phase alignment. I never hear anything about this topic. I barely grasp this topic but, I am in the reality that my stuff sounds better before printed to the Daw. I have the SSL 2+. . Is the conversion compete with companies like Dangerous and Burl. Thanks and please educate me on this topic.
Great video Jack, do you think you could do some additional videos with this piece of equipment. I would be really interested to see how to use the big six in combination with an MPC live and Ableton. Also, another video on using the big six for mixing tracks in Ableton.
I agree - a closer look at how it interacts with DAWs would be great (even if it was just a few of the leading ones). The bringing stuff from the computer into the desk sounded really interesting, but I can’t really understand that sort of thing without being shown it…
“Ultimate desktop mixer.” Yeah. Something like that. This certainly meets most use cases, especially considering where this product is positioned in the market. Although I do hope there is a “bigger six” in the pipeline with 8 pres, 8 stereo channels with insert points, EQs with sweepable frequencies, the channel compressors being auto-attack/release, and 16-24 ADAT at sub-$10k.
A tempting package. However, I want colour! Is there anything like this on the market, only with tons of colour and flavour, like an old Soundcraft 800B mixer with excellent ADDA?
@@quaz3294 MPC is as much a computer as the TI-83, MV8000, Maschine+ or RS7000. That's like the weed dispensary selling dandelions. - You do know MPC4k use to sync to a computer rite Doctor?
use a 6 (or 8 more likely) channel high quality passive summing unit, you can turn the stereo sends into inserts for the stereo channels and feed them back in along with the bus b into the SUM IP TO MAIN input and solve the one issue most people will be having with the mixer for mixing
The stereo channels having a mono option makes it perfect for recording... meaning you can use the onboard pre amps for the less prominent parts and use the lush vibe pre amps you have into those inputs
If I’m piecing together a completely analog studio, am I introducing digital signals into my mix vs using the regular Six? ie with any of the compressors or bussing system? Thanks!
I think the next move should be a SSL BiG SiXtEEN... with Dante instead of USB... or both?... or added thunderbolt? That would make a very good center piece. 16 channels of the mono channels, ...6 buses? To use a SSL PCIE interface with Dante to give me the professional standard for latency would make it yet another hit to go after the BiG, plus giving use to a previous product of theirs.
How will i accommodate this into 5 instruments playing at the same time? We all know drums is too many needs for input plus guitar, bass, keyboard and vocals. That's the thing i wanna know.
Can i Connect my sub 37, my clavia grand, my Propeth and an external reverb at the same time? Some Times need to record vocals too. Goal: Connect everything with out need of patching Have an external analog for mixing and a set of 6 pre amp ( 2 clavia 2 Propeth One moog One vocal or else ) How can i route this in ableton?
the stereo channels lack inserts. this means there is no way to place your favorite analog outboard gear onto those channels for mixing. your only choice is to waste cue mixes, which should be reserved for time-based effects. what do you think about SSL neglecting to put inserts on the stereo channels? what if you want to put a vari-mu or an xlogic bus compressor on a stereo channel? you can't do it. instead of the giant Big Six logo on the top, that space could be used for insert jacks. or the back has some space for a d-sub.
What do you expect for a measly $3k? I bought one and it’s awesome. The 4 mic pre’s, A/D and summing are worth the $3k alone. I use the stereo channels for synths, drums, background vocals etc, that have been mixed and processed in the daw. I only produce my own music, so I can see where someone wanting to do a full band could want more. But, again, it’s only $3k.
@@silverstringguitar2650 The mixer should have analog inserts on the stereo channels. It's a trivial amount of R&D and parts cost, and would be well worth a slightly higher selling price (if needed). It's a Big MisS on SSL's part to not include them. SSL is very active with product development these days. So there is a good chance we can see an update or a new product in the future that includes inserts on all channels.
@@ytb917 I was pretty bummed about this but i ended up buying it...cos like fukit theres nothing else...think of it like these r the limitations I have now i gotta make it work...for that its a fairly musical package... Now for the stereo channel you could use the mutes to route stuff to main mix B and use the master for stereo insert
@@ezdubs8511 Wow - that's only like $300 less than this entire mixing desk! Probably be better off getting the mixer. As it is, I guess I'll stick with emulation. Real hardware is better, though.
Just out of interest, why would you want 32bit for something like this that’s likely to be used by people who know what they’re doing (at least to the extent they can get gain levels in the right ballpark), and aren’t likely to use it portably very much (I.e. use on sources with massive potential dynamic range)? As far as I can see 32bit is only really useful in scenarios where you either need to save a too hot and clipping, or too cold and covered in noise recording, or where you can’t predict extreme dynamic range.
Sure the Big Six is a nice product. But by discontinuing the X-Desk, the BigSix should have implemented analog inserts and direct outs on every channel. Instead they opt for featuring USB and ADA converters.... ok, but then SSL OMITs ADAT i/o, which is the logical thing to do, to integrate the SIX with apollos or whatever. On the other hand, SSL rather than following their elegant design, with connectors on the back and mutes and solos above the fader, etc, they copy a 20 year old Mackie mixer, my gosh! and it's all praise, as if they had invented the wheel. The WORST of it all is this PR piece, where ANDERTONS rather than criticize all those weak points, like they do on the guitar product videos, they simply wow at every word the SSL guy says. SHAMEFUL. Please be MORE PROFESSIONAL, and to SSL: dont abandon the pro line and its users, XRACK, XDESK, SIGMA, NUCLEUS, etc, etc, all left in the cold, specially the last two items
I thought i found THE perfect mixer than saw the no outs etc This with the x desk outputs and inserts would break the market in terms of a studio mixer
I can live without the direct outs on the stereo channels but the lack of ADAT expansion is perplexing. and yes, dropping the X-desk is strange when you look at the way that item has held it's value
I'd love a 16 or 24 channel version of this console. 16 of the mono channels with 4 stereo channels and everything else the same. I'd buy that.
Is the SSL release 16 or 24?? I mean with this generation?
What I did is add four SSL SiX 500 series in a rack to the original Six. Works great. Wellllll, two so far. The other two have been on a container ship somewhere for the past 6 months. If Sam could take a small dingy out to the ship and grab those, I would be grateful 😄
Great Review Guys, If the computer and DAW are the brain of my studio the new SSL Big Six will definitely the heart of my studio!
What do you mean?
I own one, and its a great piece of gear for my uses. The mic pre’s, summing ability and A/D make this a great value. It’s only $3k!!
@@allIhaveISMusic1 jessie what the fuck are you talking about
“…And still have enough free for when your mate comes
around to ruin it with a guitar” Best part!
i can bet ssl are being requested to make a bigger version with even more channels before what we have is a full on console for a serious studio this is extremely nice though for smaller semi pros
GOT MY BIG SIX FROM THESE GUYS! & A OB6 DESK TOP SYNTH! THEN A UF8 & UC1 .
MAY BUY ANOTHER UF8 after seeing this video, please post more detail on this desk & setup options & I will taxi it down again from central London to grab another UF8 bits!
Great store much better then my local store ( PMT old street) thank you guys at Andertons Music 👍😀
I do like Andertons and have bought many synths (Prophet Six, OB6, Polybrute, Summit more) and recording gear from them, but the guys at PMT (Old street and Newcastle... I get around) are superb. Also Juno, DJ , GAK etc. We need more music stores around the country, PMT has stores around the country and is to be appreciated.
So, I don't think you guys dipped into the parallel compression thing. You almost did. Or did I miss it.
I would like to see a video on expansion setups mentioned here. Like adding a SiX and what is redundant or using 500 series SiX pre's, and what not. I'd like to see demonstrated how much one can grow the system starting with the Big SiX.
EXACTLY
I want to know more depth about the A to D and D to A conversion. Other products for converters talk about the clock and jitter for high quality phase alignment. I never hear anything about this topic. I barely grasp this topic but, I am in the reality that my stuff sounds better before printed to the Daw. I have the SSL 2+. . Is the conversion compete with companies like Dangerous and Burl. Thanks and please educate me on this topic.
Any word on adda?
Great video Jack, do you think you could do some additional videos with this piece of equipment. I would be really interested to see how to use the big six in combination with an MPC live and Ableton. Also, another video on using the big six for mixing tracks in Ableton.
I agree - a closer look at how it interacts with DAWs would be great (even if it was just a few of the leading ones). The bringing stuff from the computer into the desk sounded really interesting, but I can’t really understand that sort of thing without being shown it…
That’s the system I got-❤ 6 waiting for my Big6
Thank you for the video. please, it would be great if you can show us the Drum Bus example you talked about. Danke!
“Ultimate desktop mixer.”
Yeah. Something like that. This certainly meets most use cases, especially considering where this product is positioned in the market.
Although I do hope there is a “bigger six” in the pipeline with 8 pres, 8 stereo channels with insert points, EQs with sweepable frequencies, the channel compressors being auto-attack/release, and 16-24 ADAT at sub-$10k.
A tempting package. However, I want colour! Is there anything like this on the market, only with tons of colour and flavour, like an old Soundcraft 800B mixer with excellent ADDA?
It’s almost as if Ross Edgley had an audio engineering brother that works for the captain! Nice overview guys!
Need a video: MPCX(STANDALONE) + SSL BIG SIX.....NO COMPUTERS!
Mpc is a computer. U would mean a true analog drum machine but I get ya.
@@quaz3294 MPC is as much a computer as the TI-83, MV8000, Maschine+ or RS7000. That's like the weed dispensary selling dandelions. - You do know MPC4k use to sync to a computer rite Doctor?
It has an os, a processor ram, lol... it just doesn't say dell or Mac. Issa computer 🥴
I was hoping Jack would be doing this one 😆
use a 6 (or 8 more likely) channel high quality passive summing unit, you can turn the stereo sends into inserts for the stereo channels and feed them back in along with the bus b into the SUM IP TO MAIN input and solve the one issue most people will be having with the mixer for mixing
HRK make a cheap quality option
The stereo channels having a mono option makes it perfect for recording... meaning you can use the onboard pre amps for the less prominent parts and use the lush vibe pre amps you have into those inputs
Informative and good interaction 😆
HolyMoly, Im in love with that mixer!! why do you do this to me??? 😍
Would love to see a similar but touch more 6k$ mix desk
Feedback? I would prefer 2 to 4 more mono channels. And maybe add a soft and hard knee button on the compressor.
Love it but I wish SSL introduced adat to expand
I’m interested. How would I hook up 34 synths and an 8 output drum machine to this?
Get another mixer and send that main output into the stereo channels on this one.
I’d hope someone with 34 synths could figure that out 😂
Patch bay
Exactly did not provide any expansion options. I guess I'm asking for too much but it's 3k
If I’m piecing together a completely analog studio, am I introducing digital signals into my mix vs using the regular Six? ie with any of the compressors or bussing system? Thanks!
I think the next move should be a SSL BiG SiXtEEN... with Dante instead of USB... or both?... or added thunderbolt?
That would make a very good center piece.
16 channels of the mono channels, ...6 buses?
To use a SSL PCIE interface with Dante to give me the professional standard for latency would make it yet another hit to go after the BiG, plus giving use to a previous product of theirs.
Maybe a 4 band EQ or a parametric mid on the 3 band?
Maybe two of the pre amps to be the VHD ones?
i love the mitch reference lmao
We need to put a de-esser plugin on this channel. That guy keeps on smacking his lips throughout.
Nice video - helpful
Can you connect two of these to double the channels?
Yes
How will i accommodate this into 5 instruments playing at the same time? We all know drums is too many needs for input plus guitar, bass, keyboard and vocals. That's the thing i wanna know.
So how does it parallel compression?
if I use it as usb interface summing mixer without any cables, is it superanalogue?
Soooo is this a super expensive interface or a actual mixer?
Are those motorized faders, they better be for that much money.
jack defo had a norty one before the show, get the guy a tissue
He totally missed the “It’s a coined phrase” joke……..😀
and no recall.... 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
Can i Connect my sub 37, my clavia grand, my Propeth and an external reverb at the same time? Some
Times need to record vocals too.
Goal: Connect everything with out need of patching
Have an external analog for mixing and a set of 6 pre amp ( 2 clavia 2 Propeth One moog One vocal or else )
How can i route this in ableton?
If I have another audio interface like a SSL 2+, does it neccessarry to have it after i buy the BIG SiX? Or the BX works like an audio interface?
you sell the SSL 2+ once you have this
Would this work with NI Traktor?
No, but it will work with a John Deere Tractor.
the stereo channels lack inserts. this means there is no way to place your favorite analog outboard gear onto those channels for mixing. your only choice is to waste cue mixes, which should be reserved for time-based effects.
what do you think about SSL neglecting to put inserts on the stereo channels? what if you want to put a vari-mu or an xlogic bus compressor on a stereo channel? you can't do it.
instead of the giant Big Six logo on the top, that space could be used for insert jacks. or the back has some space for a d-sub.
What do you expect for a measly $3k? I bought one and it’s awesome. The 4 mic pre’s, A/D and summing are worth the $3k alone. I use the stereo channels for synths, drums, background vocals etc, that have been mixed and processed in the daw. I only produce my own music, so I can see where someone wanting to do a full band could want more. But, again, it’s only $3k.
@@silverstringguitar2650 The mixer should have analog inserts on the stereo channels. It's a trivial amount of R&D and parts cost, and would be well worth a slightly higher selling price (if needed). It's a Big MisS on SSL's part to not include them.
SSL is very active with product development these days. So there is a good chance we can see an update or a new product in the future that includes inserts on all channels.
@@ytb917 I was pretty bummed about this but i ended up buying it...cos like fukit theres nothing else...think of it like these r the limitations I have now i gotta make it work...for that its a fairly musical package... Now for the stereo channel you could use the mutes to route stuff to main mix B and use the master for stereo insert
you could always run the inputs from a patch bay so you could insert them that way
The fixed attack time is the fastest on the buss compressor. Not the longer one...
MI LIKEY
will SSL be supporting Windows 15? or leave us hanging?
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Do they make something like this (analog channel strip) but just one channel?
@@ezdubs8511 Wow - that's only like $300 less than this entire mixing desk! Probably be better off getting the mixer. As it is, I guess I'll stick with emulation. Real hardware is better, though.
The SSL SiX channel 500 series module is what you're looking for
Sounds like a MP3 on my phone 😂 is that because the video audio wasn't mastered onto 2 inch reel to reel 🤣
next time just let the man speak, he was interrupted way too many times
Make it with 32bit / 192khz audio interface, and I buy it!
Just out of interest, why would you want 32bit for something like this that’s likely to be used by people who know what they’re doing (at least to the extent they can get gain levels in the right ballpark), and aren’t likely to use it portably very much (I.e. use on sources with massive potential dynamic range)? As far as I can see 32bit is only really useful in scenarios where you either need to save a too hot and clipping, or too cold and covered in noise recording, or where you can’t predict extreme dynamic range.
32 bit audio interfaces don't exist. 192khz is supported by most but has no practical use for you or me.
@@Superdelphinus you wouldn't. 32 bit float only exists in the computer. All DA converters are 24 bit max.
I don't know what the PLF button is for ..anyone ?
PFL = pre fader listening
@@gillesd855 thanks so very much eh 😉
Sure the Big Six is a nice product. But by discontinuing the X-Desk, the BigSix should have implemented analog inserts and direct outs on every channel. Instead they opt for featuring USB and ADA converters.... ok, but then SSL OMITs ADAT i/o, which is the logical thing to do, to integrate the SIX with apollos or whatever. On the other hand, SSL rather than following their elegant design, with connectors on the back and mutes and solos above the fader, etc, they copy a 20 year old Mackie mixer, my gosh! and it's all praise, as if they had invented the wheel. The WORST of it all is this PR piece, where ANDERTONS rather than criticize all those weak points, like they do on the guitar product videos, they simply wow at every word the SSL guy says. SHAMEFUL. Please be MORE PROFESSIONAL, and to SSL: dont abandon the pro line and its users, XRACK, XDESK, SIGMA, NUCLEUS, etc, etc, all left in the cold, specially the last two items
I thought i found THE perfect mixer than saw the no outs etc
This with the x desk outputs and inserts would break the market in terms of a studio mixer
Btw anyone seen 2 SIX being paried?? Ive looked all over cant find it.
Id rather have two SIX than one big, its gonna be cheaper aswel
I can live without the direct outs on the stereo channels but the lack of ADAT expansion is perplexing. and yes, dropping the X-desk is strange when you look at the way that item has held it's value
How long can one survive on name alone smh? M2 MBP 5k, Apollo 5k, Neuman mics 5K, Adam Speakers 5k.