Countersteering: how to counter steer: Riding tips
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- After seeing many confusing explanations of countersteering, I thought I'd give you my version. Riding my new Aprilia Tuono V4 aprc
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After checking out like 10 vids, you had the best explanation yet. Thanks!!
You're welcome
RoadcraftNottingham.
I passed my test several years ago. until I was 35 years old, I had never even tried to learn. NOT ONCE from the first sunday CBT through to part 2 did my instructor even mention the concept of counter steer.
All I got was, " Stop leaning your body and turn the bars". This always felt forced to me. Clear to see why now.
Thanks, Ian at one to one motorcycle training in Newcastle Under Lyme.
Surely this is the most fundamental basic to somebody who has never ridden!
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@Gunnar Stetson yea, I've been watching on Kaldrostream for since november myself :)
@breezelow unknown clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. That which is described in the above video is known throughout the motorcycling world as countersteering. You do indeed turn the bars a little in the opposite direction of the corner to intiate the turn.
You can in certain circumstances end up countersteering with the tail of a bike out as well just as you can with a car, but that's beside the point.
Also, why all the capitals? Have you never been to school?
I think counter steering is one of those things that is harder to explain than to do. When riding it is impossible not to countersteer but is sounds complicated when someone explains it. Good vid :)
This is the single most important method I've ever learned. I'd already been a rider for a couple of years, and a friend of mine who just got his license and wanted to learn bought a book by Keith Code called "A Twist of the Wrist", a racer's training course.
One of the lessons he shared with me was "Push right, go right. Push left, go left." I started practising this, and I couldn't believe how easy it made riding. No longer was I trying to lean to make the bike do things. It mad e riding effortless, and ultimately more enjoyable.
Don Little
Don Little You'd been a rider for "a couple og years" and didn't know about this method? It's just basic steering.
Clorox Bleach... A lot of people don't know this. Not everyone's as good as you. 😝
Yep, you can countersteer a turn so much easier than lean your way through, especially on a heavier bike.
Sure steering the opposite direction you want to turn is basic steering, check.
Out of all the videos I have watched, this one was by far the easiest to understand. Thank you for showing me the technique and not over explaining the method. I have much more confidence as a new rider now. Kudos my friend...well done.
Best explanation on RUclips. Its so confusing with people saying this is wrong. Don't listen to anyone else and follow the techniques used in the video and u will glide round corners. Anyone that says this is wrong doesn't know what there talking about. Clearly it's right or he wouldnt be able to corner using 1 finger tip only. Everyone does this naturally without even realising but accentuating helps corner even better.
I am just getting back onto a bike, first time in over 25 years. Last time I rode a bike I was 17. And I just got a permit and jumped on a bike back then (no training at all needed in the 80s). I am scheduled to take my safety course in 3 weeks, where we learn the basics, but have had the opportunity to ride the bike I'm buying for a couple hours now, in an abandoned industrial area. I used your videos as a guide, as well as some instructions from him, and feel like I am more knowledgeable now, with just those couple hours, and your videos, than I was with almost 2 years on a bike, that long ago. Thanks for all these vids!
I feel like I have watched 10+ videos and this is the first one that has actually made sense! Thank you
I've watched all the videos about counter steering in french and english, because i'm having trouble learning at the driving school. That is definitely the one that made me get the best feeling of what it actually means. Many thanks.
After about 40 years of not riding, I'm getting back into it with a maxi-scooter. Back in the 70's, I just bought my Suzuki, hopped on it and took off...never heard of counter steering until I started looking into getting back on two wheels. I've read countless articles and watched numerous videos on the subject of counter steering, but this video (even if you're driving on the wrong side of the road) is the absolute best in explaining the subject. Just from the way it's presented, even in the MSF course, the principle is confusing to most of us who are either new to the game, or are returning to it. Thank you very much!
You're welcome....and welcome back to biking. Be safe. ☺
agree. so many videos make it more confusing. This video does it for me too.
+Jim Lites Same as me Jim. Just restarting after 40 years....I dont even know how this brilliant teacher even rides with only one hand.!!! Just out on my very first trial run and not confident. Thank goodness for this lad.
+Chevron Baz Balance, particularly at low speed, has been the hardest thing for me, but is the reason the teacher can ride with only one hand. I'm improving greatly, and the more I ride, the more my past abilities come back. This video is even better than the instruction I received at the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course. Hang in there, it will come back to you.
+Jim Lites Cheers Jim. I am sure you are right too. Did my very first 7km ride around the houses tonight and it got better. Been trying to get the wobble gone in my driveway and even that has improved... (I am wobbling better.... haha. ) The enjoyment, and hopefully, past skills. will return shortly. First 'Practical' in about 3 weeks time.... gulp.
Dear Russ, thanks for the time and effort you put in to your vids. I'm on a cat, ride a cbf125. Couldn't hold a line through corners. After watching this and putting it in to practice my enjoyment and confidence have gone through the roof. As soon as I started countersteering it was a revelation! Can't believe I ever rode before understanding this. Thanks so much mate.
Lol, cat should be cbt! Spellchecker, d'oh!
Glenn Makin lol, no worries Glenn. So pleased I helped improve your riding enjoyment. Have fun :-)
That demonstration u did with the car was perfect it finally made me under stand how counter steering works
Hi there,I 'm from Belgium so "pardon my french" ;-).I' ve been driving for 30 years now and when I watch your video's and think about them I realize that I already do what your saying and showing but what I really like is the very understandable way you explain everything.When I will learn another friend how to drive a motorcycle I will certainly try to explain everything like you do.Lot's of respect,thumbs up and kind regards.
Tom B.
Easiest CS demo I've seen. It actually made sense and your demo was great.
I want to thank you for taking the time to make this video. You turned a confusing subject into a easy straight away to remember it. And don't waste anymore of your time on that cage driver ( arumdumil). All of your biker friends understood you. Please keep up the good work.,
Great vid Russ (as ever) - what's your view on minimum speed to counter steer? I was taught to use counter-steering if travelling at over 30mph and to just use the handlebars in the conventional way if travelling under 30. So far this seems to work for me, any views?
Yes vids iv seen say this
Thanks Russ. As a recent CBT'er I watched this with interest. As you say, I must have been doing it without knowing what it was called or what I was doing because I was cornering. Next time out, I was able to see what you meant and I hope my new understanding of it will help my riding. Thanks!
After watching this video originally I do corner a lot better. Stuff like this should be told in your CBT imo
I've just started riding and hearing people talk about countersteering was completely confusing. This is the first video I've seen that explains it clearly and makes it seem like common sense rather than some magical technique. Thank you!
I don't understand why this is called "counter" steering. To me it just seems like normal steering. Pressure on the left bar, turn left. Pressure on the irght bar, push right. This shit just confuses new riders.
Been riding for a few months now and I was always unconfindent in my turning abilities because I didn't know what "counter-steering" was and felt like I was turning the wrong way, only to find out later that I had been counter-steering all along and all the discussion regarding it was making it seem like a lot more that it really was.
If you're a new rider, don't even bother watching videos on counter-steering or learning about it. It's just going to make things more convoluted when taking on the already nebulous task of first learning to ride.
+meth0d I agree. I'm wondering the same thing. I saw on other videos that you have to steer to the right just a little a bit and then to the left if you want to make a left corner...But in this video the explanation is different.
+meth0d .......It's called Counter-Steering because you are putting pressure on the handle bars in the opposite direction .......e.g. If you wheel a bike in your garage and you want to turn to the left , you turn the handlebars to the left..... When riding a motorbike and at speeds of more than 10mph if you want to turn left , into a bend then you put pressure on the handlebars ''As if'' you are steering to the right ........What happens is , the rear of the bike comes around , through the headstock .........It's easier to see when it;s exaggerated ...such as ..If you ever watch speedway racing or cars ''Drifting ' it's quite clear to see the bars pointing in the wrong direction to the turn
+Serenity the Insane No, it's not. Counter steering is pushing in the direction you want to go. You want to go left at speed you push left as shown in this video, you want to go right you push right. The reason it's "counter" to normal steering is that when you're normal steering under 10MPH you push the left handle bar up, which turns the entire wheel to the right, and thus you go right.
While what you said isn't counter steering, that's exactly what you want to do. Exactly as you described. If taking a right turn, you want to start at the outside of the bend and go in. So if you need to go left to get to the outside of a right turning curve before you make the right turn then, go left slightly first (by pushing left) then counter steer right (push right) to make the turn.
To make it very simple push and lean in the direction you want to go, you will get used to how much lean as you gain more experience.
+Serenity the Insane Hi there ,...... Counter steering works on 2 wheeled vehicles when doing more than about 10 mph. ...... If you want to take a left hand bend at speed , this is what you do . ....At the point in the bend where you want the bike to turn in you put a ''little'' pressure on the left hand bar, pushing it ''As if '' you were steering to the right, (This is why it's callled ''Counter -Steering '' ),...it's very slight and only takes a split second but the effect is rapid direction change . ..... It's best to push the bar at about 45 degrees to the road surface so that you push slightly to the right and also slightly down to the ground ..... What then happens is the back end of the bike moves though the headstock so that you end up pointing more into the corner , and almost simultaneously you look into the corner , dropping your left shoulder and placing a bit more weight to push the bar downwards , the bike will drop easily into the corner ...... So, you take a left hand bend with very little actual steering to the left !
To make it easier to understand , try watching a vid on speedway racing ...They are almost constantly taking a bend , usually to the left , and you can actually see their handle bars turned to the right and watch as the back end of the bike slews around , turning the whole bike around the bend . ..... Try it ,....It's far easier than it sounds .
Mike Crowley Please watch this video closely and I believe that you will find that counter steering needs to be more than trivial and could save your life. "Be Safe"
I've watched dozens of RUclips videos on this topic and they just confused me even more. Your video clarified the entire concept for me. Thank you kindly. I have liked and subscribed!
I heard that Chuck Norris counter steers so effectively that when he pushes both handlebars, the bike goes into reverse.
Jon Smith noice
LMAO!!!
i missed those
LOL! Nice one bro
chuck norris jokes ? this aint 2006 man, atb
I tried this a while ago, after passing the DAS course and it has improved my riding so much. I looked through so many video's on here and got the gist. Thanks for the explanation........ love your vids by the way.
best video on counter steering i've seen,very easy to understand.
I just starter riding a scooter and I came across a youtube video about counter steering and it blew my mind. With a sense of trepidation I decided to experiment with it next time I got on my bike and when I did I was amazed to find that counter steering is what I naturally did anyway without ever being concious of it! I must be a natural or something. Being aware of it now has made my scootering experience all the more exciting!
Been wrestling with this myself. Just copy what Russ does and it happens. Forget trying to understand why. Really enjoyed th erode to work today. Thanks. Chris
Someone told me about this, but it didn't sound right to me. The way you explain it makes it very clear. You're a good instructor. For a beginner I'll be trying on my next ride.
I dont get how can people be unawere of this, specially people who actually ride motorcycles everyday!. Before starting my online research for a bike (i'm trying to learn as much as i can before buying it), i already knew this, i didnt even know it had a name, but i've been riding bicycles all my life, and this effect applies just as in a motorcycle. It's something that you do naturally, but when you actively use it, you have A LOT more control.
ComandanteJ
From basic training to big bike test my instructor never mentioned it once.
I used to hear, " stop steering with your body and turn the bars".
As an absolute beginner you believe what you are told. It always felt forced.
A little bit of useful knowledge goes a long way. Shame that One to one in Newcastle under Lyme completely failed to mention this throughout.
Countersteering is the ONLY way to corner a bike at speed. You cannot in any way, shape or form, corner a bike above 8 mph or so WITHOUT countersteering. It happens subconsciously. All you're saying is being aware of it lets you use it more advantageously.
I’m still on L plates driving around on a 125 for a year and or My dad told me to counter steer and told me to push down on the bar, the way you want to go but to me this didn’t make sense as when I was trying it I was struggling to see the benefits. I’ve since watched this video and it now makes complete sense! I’ve been trying it out and corners are much better to me, especially doing s bends. This has helped out at large roundabouts for me not to look like I’m wobbling. The explanation of strings at 45degrees helped.
great video, simple and straitforward
Thanks. :-)
thedude427 I agree, great video
This video without a doubt is the best explanation of counter steering I have seen.
I'm a new rider and have been watching some informational videos like this. I've noticed a lot of them are recorded in countries where you drive on the left side of the road. I'm in a country where we drive on the right side of the road. Watching these video is a bit stressful for me until I remember that they're in another country lol.
This may sound weird but watch in a mirror. ☺
RoadcraftNottingham Makes perfect sense but so far I've been forgetting about this issue until it happens in a video.
+SomeDudeOnline Or you could just interpret it to be international for the most part.
Grimstnzborith Brisingr Again, I forget until it happens. Getting better though
Ive just started riding and wanting to know what countersteering is exactly. Nobody has explained it the way you did. Thank you very much. You should have a million subscribers!
Hey man great video, greetings form USA
Alas, there is hope for humanity. This is the first vid I've seen that says it's impossible to turn without countersteering. Most people just think it's the best way, but as Roadcraft says, it's the only way. Simple enough to understand too, if you know a bit of physics.
Great instructions!
"Just one fingertip is all it needs." That's what she said.
I learned this today, and tried it for the first time with my instructor, and it is amazing how it makes the bends easier, maybe it is a natural thing with some people, but understanding it, whether consciously doing it or not, definitely helps. Very good video and explanation here, you make it easy to understand, thanks! :)
Thanks for the video. In my experience, a newbie doesn't necessarily apply countersteering naturally or automatically. When I started out I was trying to turn the bike just by leaning. Bad idea. Just leaning doesn't do the job, and turning got a lot safer and easier when I counciously started countersteering.
I honestly just learned more in 3 videos of yours than i learned in 30 videos from other users.SUBSCRIBED!
Example of why it works: the hull of a sailboat is perfectly symmetrical from left side to right. As it sits in the water, it is level and the surface of the water touches the painted boot strip evenly at the waterline. From there, the hull tapers to a seam and keel at the centerline. Driven by its engine, the boat presents its symmetrical shape to the water it is about cut through and the water flows evenly on both sides. But when the sails go up, the wind heels the boat over. The boot stripe on one side is submerged, on the other it is lifted out of the water. The tapered hull no longer presents symmetry to the water it’s passing through. The water takes a longer route to flow past the hull on one side, than it does on the other. The boat will have a tendency to turn into the wind. The motorcycle tire also presents asymmetry when it leans and it will want to turn just the same. There is far more to the explanation for both vehicles, particularly the gyroscopic affect of spinning wheels but counter-steering does two things. It makes the motorcycle quickly present asymmetry to the road surface and it helps shift the center-of-gravity and the center-of-lateral effort to the inside of the turn. When the boat heels too far, it broaches and we spill our beer
Dude u made the easiest countersteering vid i have seen nd explained it alot better then the others i can watched. I can actually understand countersteerin nd how to do. Im gettina bike in a few months nd was tryin to figure counter steerin out nd u broke it down nd made it easy to understand. Thanks.
Sincerly,
Chris Clarke
USA
here I am looking for my first motorcycle and never knew this, how is it this doesn't apply to bicycles though
it kinda does you've done it on a bicycle and never really realized it
If u have ever rode fast on your bike you might notice u don't use your handle bats to turn u just lean.
Yanni SkrivanosYanniS on your next series of bends I challenge you to take your hands off the bars and "just lean" round them. (make sure you have an ambulance following though) 😉
I do not have my licence and have been riding on occasion, mostly motocross bikes, and a harley once. I'm thinking about getting my licence next year for my 40th birthday (I know, late bloomer, but I am a car fanatic before anything else) and when I heard of counter steering I did not exactly understand it. However this really proved to me how logical it is from a physics standpoint. Thank you very much for this video!
I'm not that experienced a biker so I could be wrong, but surely this isn't countersteering? This is just... steering.
Countersteering is where, in order to take a left hand bend, you flick the bars slightly to the *right* (hence the name _counter_ steering). This is just done to initiate the lean; as soon as the bike is over you straighten the bars again and continue as normal.
The best thing to do in this situation Richard is to simply go out and experiment. People have said to me once the initial bar push is made, the bike continues in that curve but I find it wants to sit up again. Let me know what you find.
RoadcraftNottingham Right, I think I've got to the bottom of it. I thought that countersteering was an optional / advanced technique (the fact that it has its own name helps that misconception I think), but it turns out that it always happens. Even when someone knowledgeable such as you demonstrates it on video the movement of the bars at speed is so small that you don't notice it.
All this time I thought that to turn I've just been forcing the bike over. It turns out that you actually turn the bars the "wrong" way very slightly at the beginning. Who knew?!
Thanks for the videos by the way - I've watched loads. I especially like the braking game and vanishing point ones.
THIS is counter steering. He does a good job of explaining it very simply. Bottom line, when riding - lean into your turns and LOOK where you want the bike to go. Always LOOK into the direction you want the bike to go.
This is by far the best explanation.
It wasn't covered in my CBT because didn't really spent much time on these kind of roads.
I found myself really struggling with my cornering because I was just overthinking it. I was focusing too much on steering right and then trying to fight the bike as it tried to lean left.
Once I relaxed, allowed the bike to move more naturally and use countersteer everything was fine.
Countersteering should be renamed to push steering, makes way more sense anyway
Sahil Srivastava In Victoria, Australia the term counter steering is avoided in the beginners courses.. qualifying for your Learner Permit and when graduating to Probationary Licence.
The counter steering concept has been demystified 😁👍 I am a middle-aged, lady rider, also living near Nottingham,who has only just passed her CBT and I don’t mind admitting that I feel thoroughly ill-equipped to be riding on the road - despite already being a car driver and so very well aware of road rules and potential hazards! One might argue that this video is too advanced for a beginner but I am of the opinion that you should learn, practice and demonstrate proper technique right from the beginning of the learning process. To this end I have booked a 2 hour lesson with my instructor to help troubleshoot my riding technique, such that it is. I will continue to arm myself with knowledge though and so thank you for creating this excellent content! 😁
Tune in to motojitsu , he also has ample video tutorage .. cheers from Australia👍
In my day Counter-Steering was referred to as 'Riding Ya Bike'. I'm in my 40's now and ride daily. My partner is now going through CBT and came home the other day going on about Counter-Steering - What? I said, Counter what? Steering, numb-nuts don't you know anything? You push the opposite way to where ya going, it's so complicated, but i'm slowly getting it.......I think!! At this point I stroked my chin in deep contemplation and looked at her, 'Jesus, I thought, her instructor's on Crack! No wonder it's so bloody expensive!!
Brilliantly simple but like you said there are so many confusing explanations out there. This is the simplest version I've seen.
I disagree with the whole term. Just watch the video: the handlebars are turned with the turn, not counter to it. In speedway, some dirt riding, and even in rear-wheel drive rally cars (rare these days) you see genuine counter-steering. On bitumen, that little push down on the turn side gets the bike leaning which is perfect, but that is all it does. I used to teach downhill skiing and recognise the principles: get your inside shoulder lower, keep pressure on the outer ski. The idea that one steers "in the opposite direction" is simply confusing.
I guess the best way to say it is that you're actually applying pressure in the opposite direction of where you want to go. You literally push right in order to go left and left in order to go right. It's a hard concept to visualize without actually being on a bike for sure but in practice with a conscious effort you definitely do notice the benefits of cpuntersteering. In my opinion it leads to much tighter turns and better understanding of the bike's mechanics
+SuzuRyderHD push right to go right, push left to go left.
RoadcraftNottingham it is incredible though isn't it? Think of a push bike. if you pushed the handle bar to right to go right you'd go left instead. Incredible how weight and momentum subvert logical thinking
If I understood correctly with this technique only by push of the handlebars bike makes the turn without the need of actually turning the steering wheel?
u disagree cause u dont understand...
I've never driven a motorcycle before but was confused by this terminology. You explained it so well that I understood it having no prior experience. Fantastic stuff.
makes no sence to me..
Hes handlebars clearly is turned to the right when he goes to the right etc... Why does some say when you countersteer your handlebars should go slightly to the opposite direction? I have no idea why this is a subject that needs to be explained anyways, it just happens naturally.. Theese videos just causes confusion to me :(
sweftwp The physics of counter-steering are confusing, so don't think about the details to much. All you need to know is that the harder you push your right grip, the tighter your right turn. Yes it happens naturally, but if you want to be the best rider you can be, you need to understand and utilise it consciously.
No when he pulls to the right the bike leans LEFT, so he must push more right to go right, hence the term countersteering. Yes, it is just natural, it's exactly the same as a bicycle, the main point here is push the handle bars down to the road rather than pull the handle bars towards you, the other point is that people may do this without actually understanding, only once you properly understand what you're doing then you can perfect your skill.
this is the easyest one to understand
brisnera oh gee that's exactly what i said *dumbass*
This is the best video I have seen that really demonstrates how to counter steer. You explain and show exactly how to do it. Great video
I don't even ride a motorcycle but I try this on my street bicycle and when I'm in excess of 20 mph, Counter steering and downward pressure is all I need! Thanks man, great vid!
They're right about the part that counter-steering is intuitive, but I think practicing counter-steering consciously and building up muscle memory will take my riding to the next level. Your video was a help, thank you......
I have watched a lot of videos re this topic and never really understood the bit about when you push right, the wheels initially go left ... This video didn't really mention that bit but is probably the clearest video I have seen on this topic. Best advice I can give is to try it yourself ... If you want to go right, push right, if you want to go left, push left. That's it, that's all it is. Once you've got that, don't try to understand it coz it messes with your head. Counter steering put simply is = push left to go left and push right to go right. Don't over think the physics of it all!
Theovanpersie
Spot on.
I'm not a motorcyclist (I'm just an ordinary cyclist) but this was probably the best visualization for countersteering I've ever seen.
fantastic video pal. I have been slightly sketchy on my turns, watched this video and went out the next day to give it a go after a little play around getting used to it on a car park and then taking to an industrial estate I am now so much more consistent and confident in cornering.
thank you so much
As a guy who's been riding bicycles for 16 years now, your video was very helpful. I realize that motion you've showed is so natural to me that I wouldn't know really how to steer into a corner differently. Your video conformed that I'd do well in corner :D
Thanks for taking time to make this video. :)
Finally a logical explanation - which in the course of it makes it clear that the term 'countersteering' is a bit non-sensical.
I love the sentence "It's impossible to get a bike around the corner without countersteering".
Which should be pretty obvious to anyone who ever rode a bicycle at more than 10 mph and made a turn without crashing off the bike. The mass of a bycicle is much lower but the physics is the same.
Great video!
BRILLIANT Explanation!
I like your instruction technique the best so far.
You are the first video I've seen where you start the training while stationary and then progress to the riding sequence.
Great job!
Cheers, JayBird
This guy is a very slick rider and oh those narrow, usually wet English roads. Getting my head around counter steering and mixing it with leaning has improved my riding out of sight since I found these videos.
Good video. I like it because you showed a bunch of examples. As many like me, I have never knew about countersteering till Instarted to do some research on how to ride a motorcycle a couple of month ago.
@108Blake I personally believe that a/ It's easier to follow the natural line of your arm so push through that line and b/ horizontal pushing may put too much through the bars, you only need the smallest input for this to work so why make it harder for yourself. Having said that, why not experiment and see which way you prefer, there's no definate one answer to this. Thanks for your input.
I've asked some other bikers whats is counter steering and no one has explained it, as I've already done CBT and looking to either do Restricted access or Direct access, this video explained it superbly and made total sense, I will certainly watch more of your videos and pick up any advice I can before taking more training.
one question, is there a speed that the bike gets to when this effect naturally occurs?
I wouldn't consider it an "error", just a different way of phrasing it. The end result comes across the same and a lot of people said I've helped them. We all have opinions on how to phrase things and no one is perfect and I was doing this on the "fly" with no script. Thanks for your input.
This is by far the best explanation I've seen on the subject. The only other thing I'd say is to emphasise what Osmund Lind Iversen said - don't think of it as counter-steering because that really is where the confusion comes from. Think of it as a slight push to get the lean you need and then the bike does the rest (thank you, physics) :D
Thanks for the great video. look at these two options of counter steering. (1) push the left and the bike goes left, push the right grip and the bike goes right. Option 2: pull the left grip and the bike turns right or pull the right and the bike turns left. Which option do you recommend. I just bought a new bike and im about to start learning how to ride.
Counter steering is the thing that makes your self balancing motorcycle so easy and precise to steer and corner at speed
that it IS THE THING that makes riding a motorcycle so unbelievably fun to ride
when riders talk about the joy of going down a twisty mountain road, THIS is what they are talking about: Counter steering the bike thru the curves, it leans and balances all by itself while you put the tire exactly where you want it on the pavement, with almost no effort.
Its like flying an airplane 3 feet off the ground
Great demonstration on counter-steering..just what I was looking for! was practising today and felt much more in control of my new bike!
I tried it today and felt like I rode the bike for the first time. wow! I got the bike 3 months ago and learned to ride myself. Thanks for the video.
Amazing explanation! Ironically, I got the hang of countersteering when I was taking a motorcycle course a year ago, and now that I've finally gotten my first road bike I seem to have forgotten it... Your explanation made it make sense again, time to go apply it when I'm riding next time...
i understood this completely it's amazing how you do this all the time with like instinct and then learn that its a thing and you become conscious about it, it's amazing!! thank you!
Thank you for your great demonstrative video!! It's new to me as a newb, but still very intuitive. I noticed right away that my lean was not going to happen until I put pressure on the grip. Then it just happened. I want to practice quick maneuvers to help with lane positioning in turns and avoiding accidents.
Very nice video..I am a biker all my life(more than your age) I was just reading a forum with confused people about countersteering and I decided to search utube and what I found was a huge mess.People over thinking it, and the end result is not only a bad explanation but WRONG.They try to explain it with all the scientific things they read and they end up saying wrong things.
Your video is simple, accurate, best I found.(if people don't understand why I praise you, just watch any other video)
Makes sense now. I'm just back on motorbike with a cbr600f. This is helping as I'm just trying to get confidence back. Thanks for the videos!
Awesome video! my friend told me about this as i was physically trying to steer around corners and was struggling. Knowing this allowed me to go a lot quicker around corners and with more confidence.
Hey there, I've been following and watching the very useful RUclips video's that you've posted over the past while. I live in Canada but was born in Ireland, so can drive on both sides of the road. Have recently gotten my M2 (Canadian) license and have watched the video's you've posted multiple times. Thanks you soooooo much for posting them.... they are very clear and fairly easy to follow. I usually watch the video a few times and then go out and practice the tips you just post. Thanks.
Tricia Moran That's nice to hear. Thanks for the feedback and ride safe :-)
Yes, I will for sure. Since I live in Canada my newly bought Kawasaki Vulcan 800 classic which I bought for myself over Christmas, I have to unfortunately to wait until the county council start cleaning and clearing the roads if sail and sand because of the very severe winters who have here. I really loved your video on how to go around bends and corners, as well as the one on how not to 'bang" the bike into gear which I have trouble doing !!! You just do it all so smoothly and it frustrates me when I'm trying to do it properly but seem to fail the transmission change so badly. I'm fairly new to biking so still on a huge learning curve. Love watching your very informative video's. Its a pity that I live in Canada and not in the UK, coz I would drive to see you just to get a lesson from you for sure!! Thanks for all the informative video's. Keep them coming. Tricia
and yet, people will still argue that countersteering doesn't exist!
Brilliant video. All new riders should be taught this as part of the syllabus for DAS or otherwise.
I had two friends lose it on corners this week and I've been trying to explain counter steering to them, I just sent them this link, it explains it well. Funny thing, I have always intuitively counter steered, and it never occurred to me that not everyone understands this.
It may also be wise to show them my limit point upload too.
The best explained counter steering video with small words used but very detailed right to the point, than those other geeks getting into too much detail and confusing people.
This was the most precise, perfect explanation I've ever seen....of anything...ever..Good job buddy, you honestly helped me out loads
Very nice explanation! Myself I have to attach techniques to logical explanations to accept that they work, instead of just doing them without understanding them. When I was training I finally settled on counter-steering being the simple action of rolling your front wheel in the opposite direction you are heading to make the bike rotate around the center of mass resulting in it leaning in the direction you really want to turn. Imagine doing it while walking with the bike, which way will it fall?
Tiny correction of my previous: You point out perfectly how the bike wants to right itself. The geometry of front forks and wheel does mean that you turn the handlebars LESS than expected, and the trick is, I feel, to not force the handlebars but feel where the wheel wants to go?
I had a friend explain the physics of countersteering to me but your explanation makes much more since.
Watched loads of vids on this topic Russ and this is the Best so far,Wish you could do a vid on when it becomes necessary to get leaning off the bike whilst cornering and at what kinda speed leaning off the bike comes into play to take that corner, because you make it look so easy.You know me im no speed junkie but always wonder should i be leaning off for a corner or do i have to lean at all,or is it just for bragging rights sort of thing
Great tip - something we weren't told during CBT. I tried it this morning and it does make for a smoother turn. I didn't try it with just fingertips though!
Why cant other people teach the way you do! Great Video! I've watched many others on counter steering and this one really helped me fully understand, I think mostly because I'm more of a visual learner and you showed multiple times how to counter steer.
So a slight downwards pressure, that explains it. Many people don;t include that important piece of information which is why counter steering confuses so many people. Thank you for a more clear description. Now I can practice with proper technique.
+ivantoxie downwards is the key term here. pushing and pulling the handles to a non rider simply means turning the front wheel. i agree, very well explained in this video.
I agree with BikerGeek by far the best explanation of counter steering i have ever seen or heard .
Thank you haha. I have been riding for about a month and I never grasped counter steering from other youtubers, but you've really helped!
Thank you, countersteering is something you already do but when it's put into your conscious mind it helps you hold your line round the bend better.
"Push on the bars" can be confusing to the novice. "Push forward on the bars" is more accurate, saves them trying to push down! Another great video, keep up the good work!
Awesome video, been studying for my bike course in the USA and this helped me understand alot before even getting on a bike.
I recently completed my CBT (new to motorcycling so was my first time taking the course) and enjoyed this video, very well explained. I'm wondering whether the design of the front forks on the Honda Cub bikes (leading link suspension type) was based on the counter steering technique? (The folks being located between the majority of the bike and the front wheel spindle). I get the impression the Cubs (I have a 1983 Honda C70) are a bit dangerous as far as emergency braking is concerned, i.e. the front of the bike rising rather than "falling towards the road" like bikes with what I suppose would be considered conventional forks. As the forks on a Cub rise when the front brake is applied (albeit gradually and not full on), weight at the front of the bike rises increasing the risk of a front wheel lock. Did Honda concentrate more on the need for counter steering than the need to employ emergency braking. RoadcraftNottingham's opinion? Thanks for this great video. Frankie.
dude, you are seriously the only vid. that I've off watched on counter steering that made SENSE! thanks so much man!
finally someone can explain this clearly. been trying to my head round this for ages. great video
@8BREM8 Excellent question, you continue with the pressure input. You will notice when I let the pressure off the handlebars, the bike sits up again. Try it, let me know what you think. Thanks
Would you please make a video on slow speed steering? I love the way you explained counter steering and just feeling a bit anxious about slow speed turns and u-turns.
@GlobalAgenda That's a difficult question to answer. I suppose it naturally happens at all speeds, otherwise you wouldn't get round a corner in the forst placel. Experimenting is the way to find these things out.
I love the Twist of the wrist video as it explains counter steering further. Money well spent. I hope this sorta answers your question.
Correct me if I'm wrong but when you lean into a corner your torso somewhat twists into the corner too - turning left, your left shoulder twists into the corner as you lean. This would make your left arm "longer" which means you'll be applying pressure to the left side of the bars turning them to the right - natural counter steering.