@@seanomaille8157 Tell it to their leaders! Every place has stood against their leaders throughout history except for the Arabs in Gaza. They just vote and support them then still do to this very day!
A person loses all credibility the second they try to still convince you that Biden is capable of running this country. The guy can’t drive a car and you’re telling me he can handle the most important job in the entire world?? Such partisan hacks maliciously acting in bad faith.
Bill has one of the largest political platforms in the world and yet he has no problem lying to your face, that Biden is fully capable of running this country, the most important job on earth, when the guy can’t even drive a car!
I get your point since this is on CNN as Bill isn't exactly MSM. If Bill hadn't been criticizing the left the past few years.. CNN wouldn't have created this show. I dropped CNN yt, when they got a new -R CEO and started promoting Donvict over democracy. 100 % of my news is from YT. 99% of my political news information comes from independent journalists like BTC, Glen Kirschner, MNT etc on YT. This OT was definitely better than the RT episode.... miles better.
@@notme2dayThis isn't CNN, it's HBO. CNN didn't create this show, it's been on HBO for like 20 years. Prior to that, Bill had a show on ABC called "politically Incorrect" all the way back in 1993.
@@TheOneandOnlyLite *REAL TIME* (RT) is on HBO. *OVER TIME* (OT) is on CNN. Please do *try* to keep up with at least the simple facts. *Edit- Ahhhh... Bless your heart, you're a Donvict supporter. Now I understand why you can't keep up.
It’s completely fact FREE, like all of the crap the left peddles. WW2 history is a bs lie like everything else. These goons didn’t make an argument. Per usual.
One thing that is never said in these conversations is that we also didnt like trump prior to jan 6th because WE KNEW HE WAS THE TYPE OF PERSON TO DO THIS!! HE EVEN SAID HE WOULD
@@elkabong6429 him, Sam harris, and Michael Moore were the ones I remember saying it. And people said they were crazy and deranged. Right! But Trump also refused to say he would concede to a peaceful transfer of power if he lost. He didn't even hide it.
@@elkabong6429 Maybe on TV, but it was a regular discussion amongst myself and people I hang out with. Even before he was elected I was saying "This guy wants to be a King."
@@TFNEVADA Yes, I meant on TV. I also didn’t think Trump would go quietly into the night if he lost. He said in 2015/2016 that if he lost to Hillary it was only because “it was rigged.”
Islamic Republic has taken Iran and the world hostage - we should not negotiate with terrorists. Come talk to ex Muslims so we can explain @atheistrepublic or @apostateprophet channels
Most Iranians hate your takes as you are a terrorist sympathizer. Ex Muslims know we dont negotiate with hostage takers and terrorists. #اسراییل_بزن @atheistrepublic debunked u today
I honestly don't know why they have to split it up. For years, it was all on HBO. Now we have to check two places to watch all of it. They should choose one or the other and stick with that. Make it longer, great, I just want it in one place like every other show in existence.
Islamic Republic has taken Iran and the world hostage - we should not negotiate with terrorists. Come talk to ex Muslims so we can explain @atheistrepublic or @apostateprophet channels
The problem with all three of the guests is that they have not, in decades, been in high school classrooms where history and government teachers working their asses off to teach the fullness of our country's story and are having to compete with smart phones and helicopter parents and politically cowardly school boards.
I remember some of my teachers, who were great, and others who were a joke. Old women, who couldn’t discipline the most rowdy students, and ending up teaching nothing. More interested in wasting 15 minutes on taking gum, and having kids spit it in a coffee can, than try to say shut up or you’re going to the office. Get out. There were about 5 teachers like that, who had no business there, mentally. We had about the same number, of teachers who were actually great.
I graduated high school at the turn of the millenium. No smartphones existed let alone in the hands of teens in the classroom. We had pagers & early T9 input cell phones. Most people my age do not have the faintest idea about history. This isn't a problem with smartphones. It goes much longer and much deeper.
Please! I went to high school before smartphones took over. We learn learn about US history, and we call European history the history of Britain and occasionally Germany, France and Spain. Unless you went to private school (and i am not even sure about that) you were kept a sheep in a tunnel. US school system is horrendous if you care about creating people capable of making change, and the country and maybe world a better place. Top 20 universities in the states is a different story. But one will notice that when it comes to science, and graduate degrees, more than half in those schools are given to foreigners. These are facts
I graduated HS, when pagers didn't exist and PC were just arriving.... When parents respected teachers and the "need improvement" grade was taken seriously and parents actually cared to helped their kids improve.
It's worthless because it's a short-form, talking point discussion, that almost any statement gets stepped on by the next guy bringing up his talking point! No one can really sell their side of an argument. There isn't enough time. BTW: McMaster and the dude with the pointy nose are full of it! They try to equate between a total moronic a-hole and career civil servants who actually want to help most people and have always tried to. To me, the difference is like night and day!
Islamic Republic has taken Iran and the world hostage - we should not negotiate with terrorists. Come talk to ex Muslims so we can explain @atheistrepublic or @apostateprophet channels
Republicans and Liberations are jealous that the Democrat party has a plan, a very successful plan. And they don't and never have, anytime they have attempted to implement anything nationally it's been a failure. Instead of coming up with something that works they just torpedo what the Dems have. Hillary said, "they have no plan", they've never had a plan.
@@jacobaccursothe problem they see with FDR and LBJ is that they shifted the American Economy towards the middle working class and Reagan shifted it back to the fat cats.
Interesting that Lowry is stating that Harris, if she had a majority in congress could be the next FDR or LBJ as if that would be worse than the former guy back in the WH.
The right has been trying desperately to rewrite the legacy of FDR. There's a great t-shirt/poster....at the FDR presidential library in Hyde Park, NY listing all the accomplishments of FDR. At the top it says something like, "It's FDR's world and we live in it." It's great. Eisenhower was probably the last GOP president of consequence with the interstate system. Prior to him it would be Teddy Roosevelt who grew completely disenfranchised with the GOP and formed the Bull Moose party.
Lowry is one of the reasons that I think The National Review walks a fine line between reporting and veiled propaganda. Also, Reagan was at diminished capacity during his second term.
lowery is an asshole. His modus operandi is the simple tactic that media and social media use to generate more clicks and more ad revenue. A glaring example of how our society is degrading due to the worship of the almighty dollar
@@ASalvaro Ronald Reagan was a babbling idiot who crapped his pants during his second term. Nancy could not stand Ronny to be like that and smothered him with a pillow.
If we are talking about curriculum and left vs. right, we should bring up the fact that basic science like evolution and climate change is sometimes not taught in far right red states
What's to teach about climate change?>The earth's temperature has fluctuated all through time. There was an Ice age. Trying to push a narrative that any creature on earth can control the weather is a lost cause. The "science" is a mere observation of weather patterns. Our lifetime isn't long enough to understand it. Might as well study air or water. How much is there to learn? How can such a simple thing be called "basic science"? The reason "climate change" has become a pushed narrative is because wealthy people seek to profit from it. they know you will buy anything if it makes you feel like a hero. Micheal Moore made a documentary exposing the green energy money making scheme and that's why they banned his film within days of its release.
You know what is now being pushed in blue states now? That some boys with junk are now female and should be able to undress in girl's locker rooms. Gender (prior to this new trans fad movement) is more basic science than how life came about years ago where neither you and me were here to witness it.
good show...I appreciated the discussion...is it me or has Bill gotten better about letting a heated conversation between two guests, breathe...and let them have at it? I like that.
I think his side gig random has helped him mellow a bit as he can blather endlessly there. Gotta respect that he keeps his eye on the clock and sticks to his format unwaveringly.
Going from dominating certain guests to letting people talk over each other? And while spouting some orthodoxy so that they don't quite even finish their own sentences b/c they know which side they're talking about? Sometimes I found myself wondering, "wait, whom are you accusing of 'being like that' or whatever.?"
@@greatkentuckian9032 that’s hilarious coming from someone from a state that benefited greatly from social services. And because Kentucky, as with most Republican run states, takes way more than it gives in federal funds.
@@greatkentuckian9032 Sure, tell your parents and grandparents to send their social security checks back. If you have any disabled people in your family, make sure your family alone supports them. Shocked to see you're from Kentucky.
A friend gave me this today A vote is not a valentines You aren’t confessing your love for a candidate It is a chess move for the world You want to live in Not a political party, but a vote to preserve democracy and what it stands for. Equality and freedom
That's precisely why Trump needs to win, because if Harris gets in, she will only continue with suppressing of free speech and silencing of opposing candidates and dissenting opinion. She is a puppet right out of Russian playbook. There's hardly a democracy now with the vitriol from the radical woke / pro-hamas left. In 58 days, Don will be restoring not just freedom of speech, common sense and equality (NOT EQUITY), he'll also be restoring DEMOCRACY. Oh it's going to be so sweet to be free again, to wear a red hat, and say what you want without being banned on FB, de-platformed on social media as Biden & Harris have vociferously been doing for nearly 4 years. Shame on them. There's absolutely nothing "democratic" about the fascist/Marxist Democrats. What a disgraceful bunch of hypocrites. Just ask Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, RFKjr and the Walz family in Minnesota who have denounced their imposter relative Tim.
@@BJSal916 I believe you are confused! Trump and democracy do not go together! "RUSSIA IF YOU'RE LISTENING!" Yeah...his whole presidency was a FARCE!!!
@xak999 Well he doesn't have the intelligence agencies running psy opps through social media and news media on us like democrats do. Let's list the ways establishment aided the democrats: - Russia Gate hoax - Hunter Biden Laptop suppression - Censoring Americans on covid - Censoring Americans on the election even though democrats have questioned every republican victory in modern history - DAs literally running campaigns on persecuting Trump for any reason - Politicized justice department persecuting Trump for having documents even though Biden was guilty of the same crime - Intelligence officers leaking on Trump for withholding ukraine aid even though Biden is on video doing the same thing The establishment doesn't want you to have a choice. That's why even though we all saw Biden had dementia, the democrats didn't have a nomination process and instead just hand picked kamala.
What dementia? The thing that people didn't like about Biden was here was a pretty good politician who because of serious cognitive decline, couldn't play at the top of his game anymore. Trump sounds like the same idiot as he was in 2016. Not seeing any major cognitive decline. The democratic party should listen to voter, age is not an issue with Trump. Find something else to define him in the election.
19:15 Imagine if Ronald Reagan was alive today and you told him that today's Republican party was saying that we should abandon NATO and help a Russian dictator bring back the Soviet Union.
Your brainwashed !! Trump made NATO countries start paying their fair share ! The U.S. payed the most $$$ to NATO to Police the rest of the WORLD ! It wasn't fair to America and our Hard Earned Tax Dollars being Spent providing Security to the WORLD when other Countries committed to doing the same by contributing a portion of their GDP to the Very Existence to NATO ! Trump stated you don't pay we won't either THEN WHAT ?? Russia invades you ? Negotiation and standing firm for the TAXPAYER AND HIS COUNTRY BEING RIPPED OFF ! HE SUCCEEDED ! He got NATO countries to start paying what they PROMISED ! 100's of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS the United States DIDN'T have to spend ! I call that a win for my COUNTRY and my POCKET . 👍
More people are suffering from the disastrous foreign policy blunders of Biden, we have women practically enslaved in Afghanistan, terrorism on the rise in the ME and a Ukrainian war. Democrats need to worry about their policies rather than Trump's speeches which often are just ideas he throws out without following through
@@CribNotes Freeloading Euro-weenie here: Honestly, we don't. We may need you to buy our cars and superior machines, but otherwise? I guess we'd cope. Yes, we have relied on US military often (but mostly in conflicts nobody needed anyway), but now I really think we would be strong enough to go on our own. It's simply rational and reasonable for Western democracies to stand together and fight dictatorships.
and weve heard about it ...since then...from Dems... i dont think saying "well, we are just like republicans in that aspect" is a big flex...it shows you will lie too..
Yeah, so long as she sleeps at the feet of the Obamas. Funny how low on the popularity charts she was a few weeks ago and after Chicago she is like the Messiah returning. Crazy-ass country we live in now - swear to God.
I agree, but so many of the Trump supporting guests just seem to blatantly lie and try to talk over others with propaganda. And Bill just laughs and nods along. If he truly believes trump tried to overthrow the election, and refuses to this day to accept defeat, how can he actually take any of these people seriously, and provide them a platform to spread bullshit. Democracy doesn't stand for people like Trump, once you start questioning the results with false claims of rigged elections, sometimes before voting even takes place, you are clearly full of shit, and you are an enemy to democracy.
I love still being able to watch Bill Maher, started with this guy when he was national late television in the 1980's and 1990's, you're still revelant to my life Mr. Maher and thank you!
In the early 90s I used to tape Politically Incorrect on VHS at night so I could watch it on the treadmill in the morning. Now I watch Real Time on my phone while I walk/run wherever I want. The technology has changed, but Bill hasn't 😁
@@Fern635 That rings a bell. I once had a box of P.I. and Letterman's - maybe 60+ tapes? Wish I saved a Bill, have a few Lttrmns but nothing to play them on.
I agree 💯👍%. Overtime should be an hour too. So we can listen with intellectuals on both sides to have a common ground. To strengthed our country against our enemies.
11:59 Biden’s age wasn’t a coverup that is unprecedented. Same stuff happened to Reagan, Kennedy, and Roosevelt. I strongly believe history will look kindly on Biden and his service to the American nation 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I find it interesting that Bill is quick to call out parents on guns and phones but not on education. My parents were on me when I was in school. Making sure I did my homework, reading, discussing what I was learning at the dinner table, etc. I’m not saying education is perfect but the more parents are involved with their kid’s education, the more kids value the importance of education and more learned we become.
I feel there is a fine line that parents should walk in regards to their children's education. As parents we should be aware of our child's progress, and available to our children for help, and support. We should be aware of what is going on between them and their teacher, and also their class interactions. What we shouldn't be, is overly involved. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. We actually take away from our children qhen we are constantly " helping". Let them learn to communicate with their teachers. Make them responsible for their own grades and homework. Parents need to let teachers do their jobs, and stay in their lane and do their own job. Teachers also need their authority back, and parents need to back them up. Your child isn't an angel.
Remember it's also that our economy (in terms of the average person) is so bad at this point, no matter what GDP says, that most parents have to work so much more they aren't able to spend as much time with their kids.
The courts treating Trump with preferential treatment is political. Subjecting Trump to the same process as everyone else is actually non-political, lady justice is blindfolded.
Sad how the defense for postponing the sentencing was to avoid being seen is election interference but we all know Trump will keep using any & all of his legal troubles he endured as election interference anyway, especially when he loses, then as McMaster pointed out, the time between the election & inauguration will become a circus.
It should have been day one! Trying to “look fair” and hoping he would go away was a big mistake. They still scream it’s a political witch hunt regardless. The plain fact is trump is a witch! And he should have been held accountable for all the crimes he committed. But he never will. So beating Maga at the polls big, is our only hope of regaining some strength and integrity back in our country. I will NEVER understand ppl who support that grifter!
And he kept rambling like Trump trying to defend him. Again, I thought Avlon could have done better to push HR to be specific in Trump being a better manager of American foreign policy. Again, the GOP penchant for violence, oppression and war direct their affiliation and views. What is feckless by being measured and not impulsive? Why do we have to be always forceful, violent because we have the powerful military? We might not always have a clear winner, Iraq, Vietnam, Afghan are examples, yet MAGA is always yelling attack, attack.
Yeah I can't take anyone seriously when they say they're voting for Rump after the Insurrection. Then McMaster not saying sh*t until his book comes out...okay 🙄
Insurrection 🤣 I guess the “insurrectionists” forgot their guns. It was, at best, a political riot. But you’ll say nothing about the Summer of Love, where America cities were allowed to be looted and burned. How pathetic.
Insurrecting without arms nor needing to overwhelm the non guarded capitol while a small f'd up group got rowdy and destructive. No organized overthrow it was a chaotic. Hodgepodge of stupidity
First thing I thought of. Woodrow Wilson had a stroke and his wife was the defacto President. Nobody outside DC knew FDR was handicapped or that JFK had a serious disease and used drugs!!. There have been several presidents with... issues
People like Lowry always amaze the shit out of me; one thing is policy differences and the other is ignoring the fact that one guy and one party cozies up to extreme right wing democracy ending rhetoric. The insurrection, the praising of dictators, project 2025 are all game changers to our democracy.
Yes i hate Liberals and Conservatives BUT people are amazing. Everyone just needs to drop the party affiliations like were in some communist country.... I think that's the root of the issue is group vs group vs group now. Instead of idea vs idea. Beliefs are hard to change. Ideas are easy. People will kill and die over beliefs....
Thank you for having John Avlon on. I often am frustrated when you have people on who are supportive of democrats and our democracy who will not speak up as articulately as he does. He’s smart and quick and doesn’t let things slide when the Trump supporters spout misinformation!
Exactly! Dems and the Left, in general, need fierce defense right now...if EVER. You can't let Right Wingers spew total bull shit and let that be the last word. There needs to be rebuttal other wise what the point of this show?
Dude doesn't even know why we have a Second Amendment. He thinks it's for hunting and sports, lol. So, what is the "misinformation" that he "calls" people out on which is far more important that basic constitutionalism?
@th3frogman In a practical sense it IS only for hunting and sports. Anyone gullible enough to think a bunch of yahoos with guns are going to stop a "tyrannical" US govt is too delusional to be allowed to own a gun.
Bill, you make one huge, glaring omission about Trump and J6. The plan as we know it could not have worked without republican House and Senate members helping. It's not just trump who's a traitor and shouldn't hold office. Get with the program. It's not that hard. Hold them ALL accountable.
And as for the withdrawal from Afghanistan, it was trump that signed the agreement, it was trump that allowed 5000 Taliban out of prison, AND it was trump that kept Biden's transition from beginning until far later than is custom. Trump hobbled Biden's ability to prepare. And he put the murderers on the streets. Trump is more guilty than Biden for those people's lives. That's reality.
Don is the ONLY elected official that REFUSED to concede to an opponent along with F-you he said to all Americans when he wouldn't assist/participate in the "peaceful transition of power" that is at the core of our traditions.
@@marelinem541 lmao, are you out of your mind? Or are you referring to Kamala being involved with the federal agents that infiltrated and instigated a riot?
McMaster's has authored at least two really good books. The other two only spouted lame, party lines and insults. Their hair was good though. Bill's extremely partisan before the election. Good room reader though.
A real conversation among qualified and articulate and accomplished individuals on vital issues of national importance---this is a public service you're doing, the more the better, keep it up!
@@PWB69 Agreed and it's so disappointing. Bill has lost his way. No push back, both sidesism, and all of it in the name of selling his book and sponsorships on his podcast. Ugh. I mean, fair for guests to express their opinions, but he at least used to try to do basic fact checking. Now he passes the mic and then whines when they talk.
Lowry got away with dropping so much b.s. Also, if you feel Trump is loathsome and that he did indeed try to subvert the constitution and overturn a legitimate election result, voting for Trump means you support THAT behavior.
@@Ekim21144 I love the structure and set up of his show. Im 20, and I love watching the old clips, especially those with George Carlin. The show just needs a new host.
He’s always reasonable IMO. Being married to a Republican he can’t hate the “other side” - just wish the asshat on the panel discussion (before Overtime) would’ve stopped pointing in his face and shouting over him with Faux talking points (ie, lies).
I thought McMaster had regained his sanity after leaving the Trump administration but listening to him defending Trump and his horrendous policies, I guess not. Sad
McMaster left on good terms, and much like William Barr, is critical of Trump's management style, but not Trump's policies. Both are voting for Trump. You can lean more on the show McMasters is regularly on "Goodfellows" with his Stanford University collogues.
@joesnuffy7310 Stop deluding yourself that they're actually Trump's policies. He is following the playbooks handed to him by the conservatives coming out of the Heritage Foundation and I'm not talking about project 2025. The Heritage Foundation has given every GOP Administration A playbook since at least Ronald Reagan which is why we're fucked up now as a country and the unemployed homeless are shooting each other for the best begging spots on intersections. Because McMaster is a devout gop/libertarian zealot it is his job to help implement those country crushing edicts coming out of the Heritage Foundation. That's why he agrees with Trump on policy. It used to be said that the GOP got things done because they walk in lockstep but it's closer to walking in Goose step in my opinion.
He 's right by asking that question and everyone proved his point. Let 's say Jan 6 didnt happened and just by looking Trump policies, would they vote for Trump? They all said NO. So the point here is they all hate trump and dont give a shit about policies even those policies help the american people
How can HR McMaster state that the Iranian issue is worse than Trump supporting Putin, Xi, and North Korea. Trump stated that Putin should take whatever country he wants
Trump actually forced North Korea to stop shooting missiles over Japan by sending our fleet to their doorstep. But yeah, keep trying to spread misinformation.
False claiming Trump supporters authoritarian leaders bcuz he had the courage to be visit for world peace. You're just upset Kamala would never even leave our country if she was elected
This is a great forum. I must say, with all due respect, it is easier to follow the conversation when one person speaks at a time, and others actively listen.
I’m an American living in France for the last 8 years. It’s not a perfect democracy as well, but it is better than the American version. It doesn’t mean I think America is terrible, but there are better examples if the conversation is democracy. Don’t confuse the power of an economy to the quality of its democracy.
Why is French democracy better than American democracy? Do you mean exclusively National democracy or is local French democracy better than American school board meetings aswell?
Why is French democracy better than American democracy? Do you mean exclusively National democracy or is local French democracy better than American school board meetings aswell?
I lived there for three years, the one thing is that the govt knows it works for the people and the people understand they have a duty country. Workers have really great rights, Education is very important, the peer pressure to do well is a thing, it’s well funded and man is it long hours and strict. Healthcare for everyone but they also won’t let big Conagra’s to poison the food chain to make people sick aka The big Pharma feed loop
@MarkHagan83 This is regarding your last sentence. You are so correct because we are rated number 55 in freedom of the press currently. Out of 180 countries 'that's not so pretty good', especially when 95% of the man in the street believes we are still The Shining beacon on the hill and everything we do is the best and fastest and truest.
@@theclamhammer4447 Not true, he is so stupid. He was surprised about the supermarket cart you return, and gives you money back..🤦🏻♀️ You know he hasn't been to Aldi or any supermarket in the USA in his adult life. He can take Trump with him, oh no wait. Trump said he is going to Caracas, Venezuela!!😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ZlevelS Many remember when the republicans stood up for the constitution. Trumps 2 impeachments, one based upon the jan 6 attack on the house, initially brought out the true feelings of republicans about trump. Only to have them turn around and defend the indefensible.
Great overtime. McMaster is a Trumpster claiming to be a neutral ‘historian’. He absolutely refuses to criticize Trump. The best he can do is say that he is erratic.
McMaster reportedly thinks Trump is an “idiot” with the brain of a “kindergartner”. He says these things behind closed doors. Not when it counts. Seems to be the definition of feckless. lacking initiative or strength of character; irresponsible. "a feckless mama's boy"
I caught that too on several occasions. Big difference between Trump being a threat to our democracy as even Dick Cheney acknowledged, to him just being “erratic”.
@MalachiWhite-tw7hl no, not his views, his explanation for his point of view. Even Bill said "THATS what you're basing your answer on?" It was a ridiculous excuse.
The sheer irony that HR McMaster came to national prominence through his book "Dereliction of Duty", and yet failed to take any of the purported lessons of that book to heart. Sad.
@@jacklawer6389 As a Major, McMaster wrote a book titled "Dereliction of Duty; Johnson, McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam". In this book McNamara accuses US senior leaders of deliberately and malevolently committing acts that brought about the US involvement in Vietnam. Yet while he criticizes DonOld Trump for instability and ignorance, he can't wait to see DonOld back in the White House.
@@roughhabit9085 I guess that depends on individual interests. I am interested in security and academic affairs, and "Dereliction of Duty" received extensive coverage when it was published, to include across the US media. He also received a great deal of coverage for the perceived success of his unit in Tal Afar and South Baghdad in 2005-2006 which resulted in Petraeus bringing him onto his staff as a "counterinsurgency advisor" 2007-2008. I say perceived, because I am of the impression that one of McMaster's greatest strengths is his ability to curry favorable press coverage for himself.
McMaster looks a guy who was fired by Trump(as he was)and went to a UFC event to cool off. If anyone is respecting this McMaster fella they need to remember Trump hired him to be the good boy he was until no longer useful
Great fucken panel discussion… Well done Bill. As a tiny lil South African, I don’t think you would even understand how the implications of your discussions yield insight to our situation. But it is direct. And incisive. Thank you for the clarity and quality. Long may this continue.
If Republicans want their party back, I'm not talking about Trumpers, they aren't Republicans. Trump needs to be handed a loss so bad that they can finally move away from the guy.
True. One of the biggest problems of American politics is that Americans put too much emphasis on party loyalty, and not enough on how to get their parties to be competent.
If Americans want our country back, we need to actually address the problems that led to Trump. In France, they just defeated the far right in elections. One one hand, it's good, on the other hand, the far right has more seats in government than ever before. And yet you see headlines mostly about France defeated the far right. They'll get more power in the next election if the reasons for people voting for the far right aren't addressed. Same here, if the reasons that people choose to support Trump aren't addressed, with or without Trump, the republican party will continue to shift to the far right. People are unhappy, and when people are unhappy, the worst thing you can tell them, be grateful, could be worse, because they will look for populists who promise them things will be better and proceed to burn everything down. Too much focus on Trump being the problem.
Donald Trump is more of a liberal than a kamala Harris she been funding Wars big government big business and the banks the Democrats have become the Republicans
All his criticism is leveled at liberals and democrats. When Donnie D-cups does it, he's "erratic and inconsistent" which is what you say about your boss when you don't want to get fired.
Except he is just wrong.... You can love the country AND know it did/does shitty things..... that it ABSOLUTELY DID. I know for a fact our country did and still does some horrific shit to people and enlisted in the Marines right out of High School. The thing you need to do is push to make it better which is what, at least most on the left, are doing even if these old guys in age and way of thinking just thinks the kids are wrong..... The founding fathers were not some magic great AMAZING long ball thinkers on slave ownership..... most of them owned slaves. If they were actually against it, as revisionist history types like these weirdos claim, instead of the long ball nonsense excuse people are white washing them with they would have just said no slaves.... or at the very least not owned slaves themselves.
@@skillcoilerNewsflash, every country that has existed has done horrible things. Also, "horrible" is purely subjective in the time period you live in. It's easy to criticize what was widely accepted back then. Yes, you can love your country, faults and all, but YOU ARE INCORRECT because THIS COUNTRY, has at least rectified most of your criticisms.
I love my country. I've also lived outside the US for a total of 10 years and can see the benefits of other countries. Our lack of national healthcare is an embarrassment. Every time we came back to visit we always worried about the weirdos with the guns. 33% of Americans own guns yet there are enough guns in America for each citizen to have one. there's an underlying ugliness in this country that just won't go away. The haves and have nots have always existed but the level of entitlement of some folks is off the charts. I chose X job so i am entitled to I lived outside the US for the entirety of the Trump administration. Many countries were shocked and dismayed while others laughed and couldn't believe Americans elected such a disgusting person to be POTUS.
Bill hyper focuses on too many fringe groups trying to imply "everyone" thinks the same. He sees a few hundred college students acting super left leaning liberal and assumes "all" young people think the same way. He is way out of touch with reality.
This conversation affirms what I have been saying all along: This election is about many things, and those things can be debated ad nauseum. But, ultimately, it is about competency. Trump is incompetent, regardless of his purported "policies". Harris has demonstrated competency. When I consider a candidate the first consideration is "Are they competent?". Character is second. Trump has a weak character, obviously. Policy promises only inform me on whether or not the candidate is aligned with my personal philosophies. But character and policy are both irrelevant if the candidate is incompetent.
Do you mean when the candidates were fake? So what Donald Trump is mean He tells you how it is And the truth is not pleasant the world is not pleasant World War 3 is not pleasant
Its the blame game which is always a weak leadership position. Avalon made comments about leadership and both Lowery and McMaster didn't touch that as the problem with Trump. Anyone can start killing people around the world to look tough but where does that lead? Bush blows up Iraq so why didn't the world cower at the strength of the US, it should have been a lasting thing. But then the Middle East strikes back with 9/11 and we were lit up and they found out that the god bleeds. The rest of the world does not fear the US as much as China has brought wealth to these smaller countries, it wasn't the US as US multinationals always suck these countries dry and the people in these countries start to hate the US. I whipped off onto a tangent but ultimately, Trump was more of a problem/fear for our allies than he was a feared character by our enemies. Putin had already secured Crimea, the Donbas and just needed a bit more time to do a slow easy coup to take UKR. Trump loses so now Putin has to weigh his options, will Trump run in 2024, will he be able to win, can I wait any longer and it would seem he couldn't wait. The GOP has done all it could for Putin by not fully backing UKR and for McMaster to not rip the GOP for that is disingenuous on his part since he says he isn't a partisan.
Now that even Dick Cheney has declared his support for Kamala Harris, what's next? To counter this, Donald Trump must declare that he wants to make Hannibal Lecter his Attorney General.
McMaster sounds a lot like James Comey which makes him problematic when he waffles between two supposed extremes by inferring their similarities only to somehow denigrate one of the positions while exonerating the other. Him trying to boast about things trump got right was completely undone by his ultimate point that we all knew in the first place that his own ineptitude unraveled every possible sensible initiative. That's not erratic & inconsistent-it's chaotic & disqualifying-but McMaster refuses to call it a spade. And for all of the talk about how bad Biden handled the Afghanistan withdrawal Maher saved the most important irony of the fake outrage until the very end- 61 people died in Afghanistan under trump while 13 died under Biden. One is too many-but what they DIDN'T mention was Biden's administration didn't have the benefit of a peaceful transfer of power & a warm handoff from trump to get thorough briefings, and LASTLY-Biden's operation rescued 122,000 citizens. Trump never came anywhere close to that yet McMaster is hemming & hawing so that he doesn't offend the extremists in MAGA. Avlon was right-we don't need to normalize anything about us having a contested election between an honorable and accomplished prosecutor like Harris and an incompetent buffoonish & traitorous convicted rapist like trump.
Best show ever: good debate, good ideas, good listening and not over talking so the viewers can hear both sides or all statements. Get these guys to return for more problem solving. RRRoan
He served as NSA director for Trump. I trust his judgement on Trump, have been following him for several years on the podcast "Goodfellows". HR mentions many more times Trump was right than just twice.
@@fashe55 HR has PhD in Military History, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, 1996 / BS, United States Military Academy at West Point, 1984 and currently teaching at Stanford University also a Fellow at the Hoover Institute. He's no fool, to himself, or anyone else.
@@nuqwestr His credentials are not enough to hide his politics, despite the many times he says he’s not partisan while being partisan. So, he is not fooling me even if he maybe fooling himself thinking he can convince us he’s not partisan by saying it many times. Each to his own!
@@fashe55 I've been watching HR on "Goodfellows" for years now, he's not MAGA, nor a Dem or Rep, he's a military academician, that's his affiliation. I'm a Dem and agree with him that Trump is the safer choice for American security, polls show me and him in the majority.
@@nuqwestr You, HR and anyone else can agree on whatever you agree on, that is your prerogative but please do not tell me what to think or believe. Despite his protestations and yours, I heard a partisan take on the issues he discussed and I’ll leave it at that. Btw, your eagerness to present yourself as a democrat is a tell, just like HR’s constant I’m not partisan BS. I don’t care what y’all think of Trump, none of my business. Just like everyone else, including me, you are entitled to your opinions but not your facts. Fact is Donald Trump has never been liked or popular with the majority of the American people, ever! So please, keep your alternative facts to yourself. Just like HR, you too are not fooling me even if you fool yourself.
Yes! And the fullness of American history! High school history classes need to be more than one semester and teach 'why the U.S. is the best country in the world.' Give them something to be proud of. We are the first nation founded upon an ideal, rather than tribal identity.
Exactly.....we should all pray for a president that could emulate FDR. of course the billionaires and corporations wouldn't like it but it'd be great for over 300 million citizens.
No, what he said was she'd want to be the next FDR, trying to accomplish all sorts of unconstitutional damaging acts. Congress and SCOTUS kept FDR from doing all he wanted to, luckily. BTW many economists think FDR's actions prolonged the Great Depression by years. Many people lost their homes due to his bank holiday.
But kudos to Maher for having people like Lowry on because there are Americans who believe the points he made have merit. Therefore they should be discussed.
@@roughhabit9085 HR has a PhD in Military History, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, 1996 BS, United States Military Academy at West Point, 1984, now a teaching Fellow at Stanford University.
Trump DID interrupt Biden 5 times while he was trying to answer a question, but Trump’s mic was off and we just saw Biden distracted by the cross talk we couldn’t hear!
@@halfcu7103 If Trump’s mic had been on it would have made sense to viewers and less like a senile man with awkward pauses. I wish Biden would have said “Will you shit up man?” like he did during the debates in 2020. Watch a traditional debate where the opponent can control themselves and the mics aren’t cut. Debaters respond to cross talk.
@@robertnobles8189 I agree with you. I strongly believe that an effective debater has the ability to challenge his or her opponent and deal with any interruptions as they arise. Not only did the muted mikes bug me, but I absolutely HATED when Karine Jean-Pierre announced to the White House press pool that President Biden was scheduling a "big boy press conference" - WTF? It was then that I realized that President Biden's cabinet was starting to have doubts about his ability to continue in the race, and the gears were set into motion to work on convincing him to step aside. I still think history will be kind to President Biden once we can reflect back on his accomplishments. However, I think it will be his love of country over his own personal aspirations which will be remembered as a fine act of patriotism and selflessness.
@@robertnobles8189 I hear you, but he didn't man up and tell him to shut up 🤷♀️ duznt have it in him, and he makes himself lks senile. I agree it was a terrible idea to mute mics, bt they were trying to help JB, not DT with that move. He was cooked either way.
Jumping on the bandwagon to express gratitude for the long Overtime. This is great, more please.
I predict… If the Democrats lose, they will accept the results. If the Republicans lose, they will not accept the results.
Stand up against AIPAC. Justice for Palestine.
@@seanomaille8157 Tell it to their leaders! Every place has stood against their leaders throughout history except for the Arabs in Gaza. They just vote and support them then still do to this very day!
A person loses all credibility the second they try to still convince you that Biden is capable of running this country. The guy can’t drive a car and you’re telling me he can handle the most important job in the entire world?? Such partisan hacks maliciously acting in bad faith.
Bill has one of the largest political platforms in the world and yet he has no problem lying to your face, that Biden is fully capable of running this country, the most important job on earth, when the guy can’t even drive a car!
I loved this supersized "Overtime". The longer format allowed for some very healthy debate which is rarely seen in mainstream media today.
I get your point since this is on CNN as Bill isn't exactly MSM.
If Bill hadn't been criticizing the left the past few years.. CNN wouldn't have created this show.
I dropped CNN yt, when they got a new -R CEO and started promoting Donvict over democracy.
100 % of my news is from YT.
99% of my political news information comes from independent journalists like BTC, Glen Kirschner, MNT etc on YT.
This OT was definitely better than the RT episode.... miles better.
Unfortunately, Real Time isn't main stream, it's HBO. And it's late night.
@@notme2dayThis isn't CNN, it's HBO. CNN didn't create this show, it's been on HBO for like 20 years. Prior to that, Bill had a show on ABC called "politically Incorrect" all the way back in 1993.
@@TheOneandOnlyLite overtime is typically hosted live on CNN only, then they upload it to RUclips afterward. The main show is the only one on HBO
@@TheOneandOnlyLite *REAL TIME* (RT) is on HBO.
*OVER TIME* (OT) is on CNN.
Please do *try* to keep up with at least the simple facts.
*Edit- Ahhhh... Bless your heart, you're a Donvict supporter. Now I understand why you can't keep up.
This is what overtime should be. Extensive discussion that lets the issues breathe without arbitraury cut offs.
It’s completely fact FREE, like all of the crap the left peddles. WW2 history is a bs lie like everything else. These goons didn’t make an argument. Per usual.
Notice it's a panel of all men....
Agree! This was much better than the accelerated (and therefore, abbreviated) discussions we usually see. Let's hope this is a sign of things to come!
The whole show should be this. Instead of te lame jokes that take up half the show!
@@afridgetoofar1818 That’s cus all the women are in the back where they belong fixing sandwiches for after the show.
One thing that is never said in these conversations is that we also didnt like trump prior to jan 6th because WE KNEW HE WAS THE TYPE OF PERSON TO DO THIS!! HE EVEN SAID HE WOULD
Actually, Bill Maher was the only one saying that "Trump will never leave office" long before anyone else, and he said it almost every show!
@@elkabong6429 him, Sam harris, and Michael Moore were the ones I remember saying it. And people said they were crazy and deranged. Right!
But Trump also refused to say he would concede to a peaceful transfer of power if he lost. He didn't even hide it.
@@elkabong6429 Maybe on TV, but it was a regular discussion amongst myself and people I hang out with. Even before he was elected I was saying "This guy wants to be a King."
@@TFNEVADA Yes, I meant on TV. I also didn’t think Trump would go quietly into the night if he lost. He said in 2015/2016 that if he lost to Hillary it was only because “it was rigged.”
Islamic Republic has taken Iran and the world hostage - we should not negotiate with terrorists. Come talk to ex Muslims so we can explain @atheistrepublic or @apostateprophet channels
24 MINUTES???!!!!! Yes!!!!!!! And keep on increasing the length week by week!!!!!
Not they aren't last week was really short.
Most Iranians hate your takes as you are a terrorist sympathizer. Ex Muslims know we dont negotiate with hostage takers and terrorists. #اسراییل_بزن @atheistrepublic debunked u today
Guess Bill didn't have to do a show in Vegas later this evening.
Yea great show better than the Beatles on Ed Sullivan
@@painkiller1968 Usually they get cut short if Bill is doing standup that night.
I love the longer format for Overtime. The conversations are much richer and it’s a great supplement to the show.
I honestly don't know why they have to split it up. For years, it was all on HBO. Now we have to check two places to watch all of it. They should choose one or the other and stick with that. Make it longer, great, I just want it in one place like every other show in existence.
They want to done with DJT
Islamic Republic has taken Iran and the world hostage - we should not negotiate with terrorists. Come talk to ex Muslims so we can explain @atheistrepublic or @apostateprophet channels
The problem with all three of the guests is that they have not, in decades, been in high school classrooms where history and government teachers working their asses off to teach the fullness of our country's story and are having to compete with smart phones and helicopter parents and politically cowardly school boards.
I remember some of my teachers, who were great, and others who were a joke.
Old women, who couldn’t discipline the most rowdy students, and ending up teaching nothing.
More interested in wasting 15 minutes on taking gum, and having kids spit it in a coffee can, than try to say shut up or you’re going to the office.
Get out.
There were about 5 teachers like that, who had no business there, mentally. We had about the same number, of teachers who were actually great.
I graduated high school at the turn of the millenium. No smartphones existed let alone in the hands of teens in the classroom. We had pagers & early T9 input cell phones.
Most people my age do not have the faintest idea about history. This isn't a problem with smartphones. It goes much longer and much deeper.
The shear amount of history being made this century is astounding. Most likely due to social medias usage worldwide.
Please!
I went to high school before smartphones took over. We learn learn about US history, and we call European history the history of Britain and occasionally Germany, France and Spain.
Unless you went to private school (and i am not even sure about that) you were kept a sheep in a tunnel.
US school system is horrendous if you care about creating people capable of making change, and the country and maybe world a better place.
Top 20 universities in the states is a different story. But one will notice that when it comes to science, and graduate degrees, more than half in those schools are given to foreigners.
These are facts
I graduated HS, when pagers didn't exist and PC were just arriving....
When parents respected teachers and the "need improvement" grade was taken seriously and parents actually cared to helped their kids improve.
Ideal length for Overtime. Excellent. Open discussion with four people is peak Bill. If you did a full show with four it would be excellent.
The panel and overtime this week were an excellent example of what debate and discussion looks like. Lets see more like this in the future Bill.
It's worthless because it's a short-form, talking point discussion, that almost any statement gets stepped on by the next guy bringing up his talking point!
No one can really sell their side of an argument. There isn't enough time.
BTW: McMaster and the dude with the pointy nose are full of it! They try to equate between a total moronic a-hole and career civil servants who actually want to help most people and have always tried to.
To me, the difference is like night and day!
If he ever had a balanced panel maybe.
Islamic Republic has taken Iran and the world hostage - we should not negotiate with terrorists. Come talk to ex Muslims so we can explain @atheistrepublic or @apostateprophet channels
To Rich Lowry: What was wrong with FDR and LBJ? They literally transformed our country for the better. They made the government work for Americans.
I know! And nobody jumped in with that. I was hoping at least Bill would say something. “And your problem with FDR and LBJ is what??”
Republicans and Liberations are jealous that the Democrat party has a plan, a very successful plan. And they don't and never have, anytime they have attempted to implement anything nationally it's been a failure. Instead of coming up with something that works they just torpedo what the Dems have. Hillary said, "they have no plan", they've never had a plan.
Lowry has always been a preppie twerp. Typical East Coast righty snob., just full of it.
@@jacobaccursothe problem they see with FDR and LBJ is that they shifted the American Economy towards the middle working class and Reagan shifted it back to the fat cats.
Domestic spying. Using the FBI against political opponents, minorities, etc.
I loved this overtime it didn’t feel rushed and the discutions were awesome! That’s was an awesome overtime! 😊
THANK YOU! I hope all future episodes are this long. Turn it into Club Random!
Interesting that Lowry is stating that Harris, if she had a majority in congress could be the next FDR or LBJ as if that would be worse than the former guy back in the WH.
Anybody that thinks LBJ or FDR were great presidents have no business voting in our elections.
Real hot take on that one. 😂
The right has been trying desperately to rewrite the legacy of FDR. There's a great t-shirt/poster....at the FDR presidential library in Hyde Park, NY listing all the accomplishments of FDR. At the top it says something like, "It's FDR's world and we live in it." It's great. Eisenhower was probably the last GOP president of consequence with the interstate system. Prior to him it would be Teddy Roosevelt who grew completely disenfranchised with the GOP and formed the Bull Moose party.
His point as I read it was more that they then *think* they will be the next FDR or LBJ as a "transformational president! (ie egomaniacal)
It would be worse but I can’t elaborate because it always gets deleted.
This was the best overtime I've ever seen. Thanks Bill for giving the public actual debate. It was great.
Lowry is one of the reasons that I think The National Review walks a fine line between reporting and veiled propaganda.
Also, Reagan was at diminished capacity during his second term.
He's creepy & villainous looking, his idea of winning an argument is not let other person get a word in.
lowery is an asshole. His modus operandi is the simple tactic that media and social media use to generate more clicks and more ad revenue. A glaring example of how our society is degrading due to the worship of the almighty dollar
@@ASalvaro Ronald Reagan was a babbling idiot who crapped his pants during his second term. Nancy could not stand Ronny to be like that and smothered him with a pillow.
@@ASalvaro "YOU'RE"... And it looks/sounds like "YOUR" English grammar is at a diminished capacity 🤷♂️
Trump was diminished long before he ran
If we are talking about curriculum and left vs. right, we should bring up the fact that basic science like evolution and climate change is sometimes not taught in far right red states
NOT TRUE MY GANDSON TOLD ME COW FARTS HURT THE ENVIRONMENT. LOLTHAT WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO.
What's to teach about climate change?>The earth's temperature has fluctuated all through time. There was an Ice age. Trying to push a narrative that any creature on earth can control the weather is a lost cause. The "science" is a mere observation of weather patterns. Our lifetime isn't long enough to understand it. Might as well study air or water. How much is there to learn? How can such a simple thing be called "basic science"? The reason "climate change" has become a pushed narrative is because wealthy people seek to profit from it. they know you will buy anything if it makes you feel like a hero. Micheal Moore made a documentary exposing the green energy money making scheme and that's why they banned his film within days of its release.
You know what is now being pushed in blue states now? That some boys with junk are now female and should be able to undress in girl's locker rooms. Gender (prior to this new trans fad movement) is more basic science than how life came about years ago where neither you and me were here to witness it.
Basic science like say, men can’t have children or breast feed?
Meanwhile 70% of Scientists believe in INTELLIGENT DESIGN
good show...I appreciated the discussion...is it me or has Bill gotten better about letting a heated conversation between two guests,
breathe...and let them have at it? I like that.
Yes have noticed that too.
Yeah, "Cant you two realize you're in love?"
I think his side gig random has helped him mellow a bit as he can blather endlessly there.
Gotta respect that he keeps his eye on the clock and sticks to his format unwaveringly.
… unless it is about the rights of Palestinians. You won’t get a word out before he comes in and shuts it down.
Going from dominating certain guests to letting people talk over each other? And while spouting some orthodoxy so that they don't quite even finish their own sentences b/c they know which side they're talking about? Sometimes I found myself wondering, "wait, whom are you accusing of 'being like that' or whatever.?"
Absolutely love the longer discussion!! Allows far more depth and views on the topics. Also, what a fantastic episode and overtime!!
“New FDR” if only I could wish
This clown acted like that’s a bad thing
FDR was not a good president and anybody that says so didn't live during that time.
@@dukeplowit is a bad thing
@@greatkentuckian9032 that’s hilarious coming from someone from a state that benefited greatly from social services. And because Kentucky, as with most Republican run states, takes way more than it gives in federal funds.
@@greatkentuckian9032 Sure, tell your parents and grandparents to send their social security checks back. If you have any disabled people in your family, make sure your family alone supports them. Shocked to see you're from Kentucky.
"Do I apologize for defending a less than perfect democracy? I do not. Find me a better one." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
A friend gave me this today
A vote is not a valentines
You aren’t confessing your love for a candidate
It is a chess move for the world
You want to live in
Not a political party, but a vote to preserve democracy and what it stands for. Equality and freedom
That's precisely why Trump needs to win, because if Harris gets in, she will only continue with suppressing of free speech and silencing of opposing candidates and dissenting opinion. She is a puppet right out of Russian playbook. There's hardly a democracy now with the vitriol from the radical woke / pro-hamas left. In 58 days, Don will be restoring not just freedom of speech, common sense and equality (NOT EQUITY), he'll also be restoring DEMOCRACY.
Oh it's going to be so sweet to be free again, to wear a red hat, and say what you want without being banned on FB, de-platformed on social media as Biden & Harris have vociferously been doing for nearly 4 years. Shame on them. There's absolutely nothing "democratic" about the fascist/Marxist Democrats. What a disgraceful bunch of hypocrites. Just ask Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, RFKjr and the Walz family in Minnesota who have denounced their imposter relative Tim.
Exactly 💯 TRUMP 2024!!
@@BJSal916 I believe you are confused! Trump and democracy do not go together! "RUSSIA IF YOU'RE LISTENING!" Yeah...his whole presidency was a FARCE!!!
@@BJSal916 How does Trump support democracy?
@xak999 Well he doesn't have the intelligence agencies running psy opps through social media and news media on us like democrats do. Let's list the ways establishment aided the democrats:
- Russia Gate hoax
- Hunter Biden Laptop suppression
- Censoring Americans on covid
- Censoring Americans on the election even though democrats have questioned every republican victory in modern history
- DAs literally running campaigns on persecuting Trump for any reason
- Politicized justice department persecuting Trump for having documents even though Biden was guilty of the same crime
- Intelligence officers leaking on Trump for withholding ukraine aid even though Biden is on video doing the same thing
The establishment doesn't want you to have a choice. That's why even though we all saw Biden had dementia, the democrats didn't have a nomination process and instead just hand picked kamala.
Why aren’t you calling out Trumps dementia? 💙
I could say the same about Harris. Woman's brain is porridge.
Were you calling out bidens 😂??
@@JohnnyRingo-c5v Well, Democrats took care of that. Now, it's the Republicans turn...
What dementia? The thing that people didn't like about Biden was here was a pretty good politician who because of serious cognitive decline, couldn't play at the top of his game anymore.
Trump sounds like the same idiot as he was in 2016. Not seeing any major cognitive decline. The democratic party should listen to voter, age is not an issue with Trump. Find something else to define him in the election.
@@JohnnyRingo-c5v once it showed itself on national television, yes, so much so that he literally dropped out of the race, or have you heard?
19:15 Imagine if Ronald Reagan was alive today and you told him that today's Republican party was saying that we should abandon NATO and help a Russian dictator bring back the Soviet Union.
Your brainwashed !! Trump made NATO countries start paying their fair share ! The U.S. payed the most $$$ to NATO to Police the rest of the WORLD ! It wasn't fair to America and our Hard Earned Tax Dollars being Spent providing Security to the WORLD when other Countries committed to doing the same by contributing a portion of their GDP to the Very Existence to NATO ! Trump stated you don't pay we won't either THEN WHAT ?? Russia invades you ? Negotiation and standing firm for the TAXPAYER AND HIS COUNTRY BEING RIPPED OFF ! HE SUCCEEDED ! He got NATO countries to start paying what they PROMISED ! 100's of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS the United States DIDN'T have to spend ! I call that a win for my COUNTRY and my POCKET . 👍
More people are suffering from the disastrous foreign policy blunders of Biden, we have women practically enslaved in Afghanistan, terrorism on the rise in the ME and a Ukrainian war. Democrats need to worry about their policies rather than Trump's speeches which often are just ideas he throws out without following through
The US doesn't need NATO. Those free-loading Euro-weenies need US.
@@CribNotes Freeloading Euro-weenie here: Honestly, we don't. We may need you to buy our cars and superior machines, but otherwise? I guess we'd cope. Yes, we have relied on US military often (but mostly in conflicts nobody needed anyway), but now I really think we would be strong enough to go on our own.
It's simply rational and reasonable for Western democracies to stand together and fight dictatorships.
Sure, that what they’re saying LOL
Republicans covered up Reagan’s cognitive decline as well.
and weve heard about it ...since then...from Dems... i dont think saying "well, we are just like republicans in that aspect" is a big flex...it shows you will lie too..
No we didn't❗❗/ s
Yes they did but there is always a double standard for the so called right evil liberals .
Man, never heard of Rich Lowery but it's good to know I should never trust anything from National Review.
Is it just me or does Lowry look a lot like and sound like Tony Hawk?
For real, what planet is he from?
Well.....I can echo the post above. "Is the National Review one person?"
But ya ...that guy was bad.
I never have.
Didn't Reagan have Alzheimer's?
“If she gets a unified Congress, she’ll be the new FDR & LBJ”!!! DON’T THREATEN US WITH A GOOD TIME, SIR!! You make me wanna go vote for her TODAY!! 😂
Draft, enjoy that too. The Ukraine war has broken the age barrier so you'll be on the hook too. The young and the old fight.
Yeah, so long as she sleeps at the feet of the Obamas. Funny how low on the popularity charts she was a few weeks ago and after Chicago she is like the Messiah returning. Crazy-ass country we live in now - swear to God.
@@1247.cccccc oh stfu with your fear mongering. We’re not buying that dumb shit.
Exactly 💯
He is full of it!!
@@1247.cccccc yeah we’re not buying that fear mongering bullshit anymore.
We need more cogent, honest discussions like this in our media!
Won't happen. Absolutely won't happen. That's why I'm here every week...looking forward to it.
I give Bill credit for at least putting effort into this. A lot more than others will.
I agree! More men and women like this on the show!
I agree, but so many of the Trump supporting guests just seem to blatantly lie and try to talk over others with propaganda. And Bill just laughs and nods along. If he truly believes trump tried to overthrow the election, and refuses to this day to accept defeat, how can he actually take any of these people seriously, and provide them a platform to spread bullshit. Democracy doesn't stand for people like Trump, once you start questioning the results with false claims of rigged elections, sometimes before voting even takes place, you are clearly full of shit, and you are an enemy to democracy.
By delaying tRump's sentencing it ABSOLUTELY DOES influence the Election!
Great point, thank you!!
The election has already been affected, so this delay is just patting their self on the back to form a false narrative they are being fair!
Harris will not win
Millions of Americans are pissed off a felon is running for POTUS.
All things will conclude in Harris’ favor
I love still being able to watch Bill Maher, started with this guy when he was national late television in the 1980's and 1990's, you're still revelant to my life Mr. Maher and thank you!
You know he's relevant because the overzealous on both sides try so fkg hard every week to knock him down. He's still standing decades later.
In the early 90s I used to tape Politically Incorrect on VHS at night so I could watch it on the treadmill in the morning. Now I watch Real Time on my phone while I walk/run wherever I want. The technology has changed, but Bill hasn't 😁
BILL BURR EPISODE TO SE MAHER AT HIS BEST
@@Fern635 That rings a bell. I once had a box of P.I. and Letterman's - maybe 60+ tapes? Wish I saved a Bill, have a few Lttrmns but nothing to play them on.
@@xaspirate8060 oh, oh, I do!! Can I have them?!
I agree 💯👍%. Overtime should be an hour too. So we can listen with intellectuals on both sides to have a common ground. To strengthed our country against our enemies.
the intellectuals all seem to be on one side, though. even smart republicans are pretty dumb.
Ahh yes, common ground
the monologue should go, the interview shortened or gone too. or just make it a 90 minute show
@@robi6317
I am not voting for a candidate. I am voting for a party that at least has some desire to adhere to the constitution.
The side that's been endorsed by Devil Cheney is not the side that will uphold the constitution.
@@goshdang2114you could say the same for numerous trump supporters (endorsements) including himself. You're funny
@@goshdang2114And that's YOUR opinion.
@@goshdang2114 I'd say if you're too much of a right-wing extremist for the Cheney family, then it is time to rethink your life choices.
Neither party gives a shit about the constitution.
11:59 Biden’s age wasn’t a coverup that is unprecedented. Same stuff happened to Reagan, Kennedy, and Roosevelt. I strongly believe history will look kindly on Biden and his service to the American nation 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
History will consider this Biden regime treasonous. You obviously don't live where there is an illegal alien invasion.
I find it interesting that Bill is quick to call out parents on guns and phones but not on education. My parents were on me when I was in school. Making sure I did my homework, reading, discussing what I was learning at the dinner table, etc. I’m not saying education is perfect but the more parents are involved with their kid’s education, the more kids value the importance of education and more learned we become.
Too busy on their phones like their kids. If you do not read part of your suffers, hence the dumbing down of gen Z and Gen alpha.
I feel there is a fine line that parents should walk in regards to their children's education.
As parents we should be aware of our child's progress, and available to our children for help, and support. We should be aware of what is going on between them and their teacher, and also their class interactions.
What we shouldn't be, is overly involved. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. We actually take away from our children qhen we are constantly " helping". Let them learn to communicate with their teachers. Make them responsible for their own grades and homework.
Parents need to let teachers do their jobs, and stay in their lane and do their own job.
Teachers also need their authority back, and parents need to back them up. Your child isn't an angel.
Remember it's also that our economy (in terms of the average person) is so bad at this point, no matter what GDP says, that most parents have to work so much more they aren't able to spend as much time with their kids.
@@vtxgenie1 Stop being gullible and believing the BS that the 34 count felon wants you to believe.
I agree with OP
The courts treating Trump with preferential treatment is political. Subjecting Trump to the same process as everyone else is actually non-political, lady justice is blindfolded.
Thank you.
Sad how the defense for postponing the sentencing was to avoid being seen is election interference but we all know Trump will keep using any & all of his legal troubles he endured as election interference anyway, especially when he loses, then as McMaster pointed out, the time between the election & inauguration will become a circus.
The Democratic Party needs to not be so concerned to look fair! No guts, no glory.
It should have been day one! Trying to “look fair” and hoping he would go away was a big mistake. They still scream it’s a political witch hunt regardless. The plain fact is trump is a witch! And he should have been held accountable for all the crimes he committed. But he never will. So beating Maga at the polls big, is our only hope of regaining some strength and integrity back in our country. I will NEVER understand ppl who support that grifter!
Don’t get mad… vote. Justice will come.
HR still supports trump, and he makes excuses for him.
Note HR, trump was right, but never wrong, only erratic and inconsistent
thank you, troll
And he kept rambling like Trump trying to defend him. Again, I thought Avlon could have done better to push HR to be specific in Trump being a better manager of American foreign policy. Again, the GOP penchant for violence, oppression and war direct their affiliation and views. What is feckless by being measured and not impulsive? Why do we have to be always forceful, violent because we have the powerful military? We might not always have a clear winner, Iraq, Vietnam, Afghan are examples, yet MAGA is always yelling attack, attack.
@@boblozaintherealworld3577
It hurts, troll!!
@@boblozaintherealworld3577 Russian bot, fascist, or moron? which one are you?
John needs to stop talking over people, especially HR McMaster
Yeah I can't take anyone seriously when they say they're voting for Rump after the Insurrection. Then McMaster not saying sh*t until his book comes out...okay 🙄
McMaster also piped up on the right of center every time. He was careful about it, but he was definitely leaning.
Lol you support insurrections in certain countries like a certain one in Eastern Europe.
Insurrection 🤣 I guess the “insurrectionists” forgot their guns. It was, at best, a political riot. But you’ll say nothing about the Summer of Love, where America cities were allowed to be looted and burned. How pathetic.
Insurrecting without arms nor needing to overwhelm the non guarded capitol while a small f'd up group got rowdy and destructive. No organized overthrow it was a chaotic. Hodgepodge of stupidity
Leaning??? He is full on right wing. Faux news talking point after faux news talking points.@@1369IC
I'm tired of people talking about Biden's cognitive issues when we are seeing the same thing with trump which nobody is talking about.
how tired are you 1-10?
Correct. Biden was able to hold a speech with about half an hour - without a teleprompter.
Lol
Biden was literally getting a deal done when we was preparing to step down.
@@nl1556 which one, please?
Please … Ronald Reagan had Alzheimer’s in his last two years
A lot more than two years.
I agree
And yet his wife,with the help of her astrologer,was still able to ram his agenda through.
First thing I thought of. Woodrow Wilson had a stroke and his wife was the defacto President. Nobody outside DC knew FDR was handicapped or that JFK had a serious disease and used drugs!!. There have been several presidents with... issues
Yes, much worse
Rich Lowerys bias is ridiculous
People like Lowry always amaze the shit out of me; one thing is policy differences and the other is ignoring the fact that one guy and one party cozies up to extreme right wing democracy ending rhetoric. The insurrection, the praising of dictators, project 2025 are all game changers to our democracy.
he's all about his side of the fence and never looking over to the other side no matter what. brainwashed to hate.
He must be on that list of Russian stooges
Let me guess, that shit comes out of your mouth?
Yes i hate Liberals and Conservatives BUT people are amazing. Everyone just needs to drop the party affiliations like were in some communist country....
I think that's the root of the issue is group vs group vs group now. Instead of idea vs idea.
Beliefs are hard to change. Ideas are easy. People will kill and die over beliefs....
His comment about Trump not being a threat to the election "if he wins" just proved he's braindead.
Overtime should be 30 minutes !! nice upload Bill keep them coming.
Thank you for having John Avlon on. I often am frustrated when you have people on who are supportive of democrats and our democracy who will not speak up as articulately as he does. He’s smart and quick and doesn’t let things slide when the Trump supporters spout misinformation!
Exactly! Dems and the Left, in general, need fierce defense right now...if EVER. You can't let Right Wingers spew total bull shit and let that be the last word. There needs to be rebuttal other wise what the point of this show?
Dude doesn't even know why we have a Second Amendment. He thinks it's for hunting and sports, lol. So, what is the "misinformation" that he "calls" people out on which is far more important that basic constitutionalism?
@th3frogman
In a practical sense it IS only for hunting and sports. Anyone gullible enough to think a bunch of yahoos with guns are going to stop a "tyrannical" US govt is too delusional to be allowed to own a gun.
He's a complete joke.
John Avlon was best compared to the other guest about Trump's danger to democracy and our allies.
Delusional ... talk about summer of love.
Bill, you make one huge, glaring omission about Trump and J6. The plan as we know it could not have worked without republican House and Senate members helping. It's not just trump who's a traitor and shouldn't hold office.
Get with the program. It's not that hard. Hold them ALL accountable.
And as for the withdrawal from Afghanistan, it was trump that signed the agreement, it was trump that allowed 5000 Taliban out of prison, AND it was trump that kept Biden's transition from beginning until far later than is custom. Trump hobbled Biden's ability to prepare. And he put the murderers on the streets.
Trump is more guilty than Biden for those people's lives. That's reality.
Go to bed, goon.
Don is the ONLY elected official that REFUSED to concede to an opponent along with F-you he said to all Americans when he wouldn't assist/participate in the "peaceful transition of power" that is at the core of our traditions.
He only has so much time, that is a whole show! Write in questions on his showdays on Friday. They take them through X/twitter under real time page.
He had help with those in office!
Vote 🗳️ them out!
This is what a debate should be like
Four people that hate Trump barely disagreeing with each other over minor/petty things? I would disagree that this is what a debate should be like.
@@VincenzoC749 When one of the candidates led an attack on the Capitol, this is what a debate should look like!
@@marelinem541 lmao, are you out of your mind? Or are you referring to Kamala being involved with the federal agents that infiltrated and instigated a riot?
It was an overblown riot and Trump didn't lead it.
@@marelinem541 "Attack on the capitol"?
One of the best and most dynamic panels on the show. This is an excellent conversation.
McMaster's has authored at least two really good books.
The other two only spouted lame, party lines and insults.
Their hair was good though.
Bill's extremely partisan before the election. Good room reader though.
A real conversation among qualified and articulate and accomplished individuals on vital issues of national importance---this is a public service you're doing, the more the better, keep it up!
Lowry - IF HE WASN'T GUILTY - it is NOT ABSURD AND WRONG. NO ONE is above the LAW!!!!!!!
I appreciate Bill for getting guests that are not in the same sphere onto his show, but Lowry is simply a muppet.
@@benwu7980I don’t appreciate it because Bill has decided to let them speak without any pushback whatsoever.
@@PWB69 Agreed and it's so disappointing. Bill has lost his way. No push back, both sidesism, and all of it in the name of selling his book and sponsorships on his podcast. Ugh. I mean, fair for guests to express their opinions, but he at least used to try to do basic fact checking. Now he passes the mic and then whines when they talk.
Lowry got away with dropping so much b.s. Also, if you feel Trump is loathsome and that he did indeed try to subvert the constitution and overturn a legitimate election result, voting for Trump means you support THAT behavior.
@@Ekim21144 I love the structure and set up of his show. Im 20, and I love watching the old clips, especially those with George Carlin. The show just needs a new host.
Abolish the statute of limitations.
It only exists to protect criminals.
John was on point, especially in pointing out that the goal of America's adversary's is sowing division and distrust.
He did fantastic!
He’s always reasonable IMO. Being married to a Republican he can’t hate the “other side” - just wish the asshat on the panel discussion (before Overtime) would’ve stopped pointing in his face and shouting over him with Faux talking points (ie, lies).
"...if she gets elected, KH will be the new FDR..." Hell yeah!! Be so great!@ Way to go KH 2024
I thought McMaster had regained his sanity after leaving the Trump administration but listening to him defending Trump and his horrendous policies, I guess not. Sad
McMaster left on good terms, and much like William Barr, is critical of Trump's management style, but not Trump's policies. Both are voting for Trump. You can lean more on the show McMasters is regularly on "Goodfellows" with his Stanford University collogues.
He defends trump in his book
That is because there is a difference between the man (who is flawed) and his policies. His policies were not terrible.
@joesnuffy7310
Stop deluding yourself that they're actually Trump's policies. He is following the playbooks handed to him by the conservatives coming out of the Heritage Foundation and I'm not talking about project 2025. The Heritage Foundation has given every GOP Administration A playbook since at least Ronald Reagan which is why we're fucked up now as a country and the unemployed homeless are shooting each other for the best begging spots on intersections. Because McMaster is a devout gop/libertarian zealot it is his job to help implement those country crushing edicts coming out of the Heritage Foundation. That's why he agrees with Trump on policy. It used to be said that the GOP got things done because they walk in lockstep but it's closer to walking in Goose step in my opinion.
The biggest Trump guy always has to throw in “I’m not a big Trump guy.”
National Review did not endorse Trump for President. You should think harder.
It's called shilling for him while pretending not to like him.
But he’s still going to vote for Trump! Sleazy politician.
@@roughhabit9085So the National Review is actually just one dude? Boy I am stupid...
He 's right by asking that question and everyone proved his point. Let 's say Jan 6 didnt happened and just by looking Trump policies, would they vote for Trump? They all said NO. So the point here is they all hate trump and dont give a shit about policies even those policies help the american people
Bill, I almost love you again. Let McMaster talk more. Rich,is weird. Absolutely love John Avlon. Good show!
Yes, Maher often talks too much, and this was one of those times. Kind of what Avalon did to Lowry, but not as rude.
Weird is Kamala cackling on interviews, get real!!!!
This is a great discussion! Liberals and conservatives sitting down and discussing complex issues
How can HR McMaster state that the Iranian issue is worse than Trump supporting Putin, Xi, and North Korea. Trump stated that Putin should take whatever country he wants
HR is not very bright.
@@rosebompadre7225 He sounded so partisan. Disappointing!
Trump actually forced North Korea to stop shooting missiles over Japan by sending our fleet to their doorstep. But yeah, keep trying to spread misinformation.
Because he's a fifth column clownshow
False claiming Trump supporters authoritarian leaders bcuz he had the courage to be visit for world peace. You're just upset Kamala would never even leave our country if she was elected
This is a great forum. I must say, with all due respect, it is easier to follow the conversation when one person speaks at a time, and others actively listen.
You must be new to round table political discussions
I’m an American living in France for the last 8 years. It’s not a perfect democracy as well, but it is better than the American version. It doesn’t mean I think America is terrible, but there are better examples if the conversation is democracy. Don’t confuse the power of an economy to the quality of its democracy.
Why is French democracy better than American democracy? Do you mean exclusively National democracy or is local French democracy better than American school board meetings aswell?
Why is French democracy better than American democracy? Do you mean exclusively National democracy or is local French democracy better than American school board meetings aswell?
I lived there for three years, the one thing is that the govt knows it works for the people and the people understand they have a duty country. Workers have really great rights, Education is very important, the peer pressure to do well is a thing, it’s well funded and man is it long hours and strict. Healthcare for everyone but they also won’t let big Conagra’s to poison the food chain to make people sick aka The big Pharma feed loop
Apples and oranges. The two countries have nothing in common. You can’t compare.
@MarkHagan83
This is regarding your last sentence. You are so correct because we are rated number 55 in freedom of the press currently. Out of 180 countries 'that's not so pretty good', especially when 95% of the man in the street believes we are still The Shining beacon on the hill and everything we do is the best and fastest and truest.
Let the General speak! He's the only one qualified to speak on most of this.
I was incredibly disappointed in his selective recounting of facts regarding the war and Afghanistan
@GEOHHADDAD a lot of times, generals are partitioned from broad observations
Tucker, go live in Russia. You wouldn’t last a week there
He literally went to Russia for a week, genius. He said he didn’t care for it.
@@theclamhammer4447
Not true, he is so stupid. He was surprised about the supermarket cart you return, and gives you money back..🤦🏻♀️
You know he hasn't been to Aldi or any supermarket in the USA in his adult life.
He can take Trump with him, oh no wait. Trump said he is going to Caracas, Venezuela!!😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Before they go to bed at night, Dems clutch their Fauci-bear and check under the bed for the Putin boogeman.
@@theclamhammer4447wasn’t he soiling his panties over the stores there and they were so progressive?
Go live in NYC or Los Angeles for a week. Lol. You people have destroyed America
John Avlon, I'm so glad you are on this evening. Your thoughtful rebuttals are a breath of fresh air!
Same dishonest CNN pundit...
Ha ha seriously , just a left wing harpy
I remember when this guy was a purportedly "unbiased" cnn commentator. Nice of him to represent himself honestly now.
😂😂😂
@@ZlevelS Many remember when the republicans stood up for the constitution. Trumps 2 impeachments, one based upon the jan 6 attack on the house, initially brought out the true feelings of republicans about trump. Only to have them turn around and defend the indefensible.
Saying Kamala hopes to be the "new FDR, the new LBJ" is what? An insult??? HA! Wear it as a badge of honor.
LOL Harris wants to start another pointless war like Vietnam.
Those were terrible presidents.
LBJ was garbage.
LBJ took JFK out.
Agreed!
This discussion is fantastic. Thank you!!
This was a great convo of substance- how refreshing!🙌🏾👌🏾😎
Great overtime. McMaster is a Trumpster claiming to be a neutral ‘historian’. He absolutely refuses to criticize Trump. The best he can do is say that he is erratic.
McMaster reportedly thinks Trump is an “idiot” with the brain of a “kindergartner”. He says these things behind closed doors. Not when it counts. Seems to be the definition of feckless. lacking initiative or strength of character; irresponsible.
"a feckless mama's boy"
McMaster was almost like watching 🤔 Bill Barr Lite. 😳
Yeah he knows how to play it safe which is cowardly. Trump can’t do anything to him
I caught that too on several occasions. Big difference between Trump being a threat to our democracy as even Dick Cheney acknowledged, to him just being “erratic”.
@@daviegriffin3539 Exactly the right comparison.
Rich Lowry seems to be one of the most unintelligent political commentators on Real Time, ever.
he is loud and obnoxious also
I suspect you dislike his political views; therefore, he is "unintelligent" . . .
He reminds me of squeaky goblin Grover Norquist, a similarly unpleasant and deeply uncharismatic dude.
@MalachiWhite-tw7hl no, not his views, his explanation for his point of view. Even Bill said "THATS what you're basing your answer on?" It was a ridiculous excuse.
What!!? A Real Time episode with Bill Maher that I stand with. Who'd a thought? 💙
The sheer irony that HR McMaster came to national prominence through his book "Dereliction of Duty", and yet failed to take any of the purported lessons of that book to heart. Sad.
I was trying to attack McMaster in a delicate way, you did it for me,,Thanx
Can you explain, please? i dont understand thanks
@@jacklawer6389 As a Major, McMaster wrote a book titled "Dereliction of Duty; Johnson, McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam". In this book McNamara accuses US senior leaders of deliberately and malevolently committing acts that brought about the US involvement in Vietnam. Yet while he criticizes DonOld Trump for instability and ignorance, he can't wait to see DonOld back in the White House.
I think he came to National prominence when he became National Security Advisor.
@@roughhabit9085 I guess that depends on individual interests. I am interested in security and academic affairs, and "Dereliction of Duty" received extensive coverage when it was published, to include across the US media. He also received a great deal of coverage for the perceived success of his unit in Tal Afar and South Baghdad in 2005-2006 which resulted in Petraeus bringing him onto his staff as a "counterinsurgency advisor" 2007-2008. I say perceived, because I am of the impression that one of McMaster's greatest strengths is his ability to curry favorable press coverage for himself.
John u r wise with great integrity. Thank you. 🙏🏼 hope you win your seat.
I love this guy. I love his reactions while he was listening to Rich Lowry. I don't even know what Mr. Lowry was trying to explain.
Agree!
McMaster is partisan for sure.
Maybe - but he is not a MAGA knee-bender like Kelley was.
That's what I was thinking!!!
Uniparty all the way!
Very
McMaster looks a guy who was fired by Trump(as he was)and went to a UFC event to cool off. If anyone is respecting this McMaster fella they need to remember Trump hired him to be the good boy he was until no longer useful
I love this long form OT! More of this!!🔥🔥!!
It's no longer about right vs. left -- it's about right vs. wrong!
You should say something like "correct" vs "wrong" instead - otherwise it sounds as if you are implicitly endorsing Trump.
Country over party!
McMaster needs to go back to his MAGA stronghold where he denies he’s a bigot.
Great fucken panel discussion… Well done Bill. As a tiny lil South African, I don’t think you would even understand how the implications of your discussions yield insight to our situation. But it is direct. And incisive. Thank you for the clarity and quality. Long may this continue.
Good discussion, debate. More, please.
If Republicans want their party back, I'm not talking about Trumpers, they aren't Republicans. Trump needs to be handed a loss so bad that they can finally move away from the guy.
True.
One of the biggest problems of American politics is that Americans put too much emphasis on party loyalty, and not enough on how to get their parties to be competent.
If Americans want our country back, we need to actually address the problems that led to Trump. In France, they just defeated the far right in elections. One one hand, it's good, on the other hand, the far right has more seats in government than ever before. And yet you see headlines mostly about France defeated the far right. They'll get more power in the next election if the reasons for people voting for the far right aren't addressed. Same here, if the reasons that people choose to support Trump aren't addressed, with or without Trump, the republican party will continue to shift to the far right.
People are unhappy, and when people are unhappy, the worst thing you can tell them, be grateful, could be worse, because they will look for populists who promise them things will be better and proceed to burn everything down.
Too much focus on Trump being the problem.
Donald Trump is more of a liberal than a kamala Harris she been funding Wars big government big business and the banks the Democrats have become the Republicans
Yeah but if he loses he’ll say it was stolen again and his supporters will simply believe him
Democrats are weird.
I love the way McMaster keeps saying he isn’t partisan. Ok pal.
All his criticism is leveled at liberals and democrats. When Donnie D-cups does it, he's "erratic and inconsistent" which is what you say about your boss when you don't want to get fired.
"Do you want the party of satan, or do you want a guy that's a little goofy sometimes!?"
He's trying to remain in good graces with Felonious45 & his Kult. 🙃 It was rather pathetic.
Time stamp please. Nonetheless, he makes very good points which represent that.
@@goodolarchie you’re right goofy Kamala is a better choice.
Thank you Bill Maher for bringing this up, referring to people who are ignorant, naive, uniformed, with unappreciated freedom in America!
Except he is just wrong.... You can love the country AND know it did/does shitty things..... that it ABSOLUTELY DID. I know for a fact our country did and still does some horrific shit to people and enlisted in the Marines right out of High School. The thing you need to do is push to make it better which is what, at least most on the left, are doing even if these old guys in age and way of thinking just thinks the kids are wrong..... The founding fathers were not some magic great AMAZING long ball thinkers on slave ownership..... most of them owned slaves. If they were actually against it, as revisionist history types like these weirdos claim, instead of the long ball nonsense excuse people are white washing them with they would have just said no slaves.... or at the very least not owned slaves themselves.
@@skillcoilerNewsflash, every country that has existed has done horrible things. Also, "horrible" is purely subjective in the time period you live in. It's easy to criticize what was widely accepted back then. Yes, you can love your country, faults and all, but YOU ARE INCORRECT because THIS COUNTRY, has at least rectified most of your criticisms.
I love my country. I've also lived outside the US for a total of 10 years and can see the benefits of other countries. Our lack of national healthcare is an embarrassment. Every time we came back to visit we always worried about the weirdos with the guns. 33% of Americans own guns yet there are enough guns in America for each citizen to have one. there's an underlying ugliness in this country that just won't go away. The haves and have nots have always existed but the level of entitlement of some folks is off the charts. I chose X job so i am entitled to
I lived outside the US for the entirety of the Trump administration. Many countries were shocked and dismayed while others laughed and couldn't believe Americans elected such a disgusting person to be POTUS.
Bill hyper focuses on too many fringe groups trying to imply "everyone" thinks the same. He sees a few hundred college students acting super left leaning liberal and assumes "all" young people think the same way. He is way out of touch with reality.
This conversation affirms what I have been saying all along: This election is about many things, and those things can be debated ad nauseum. But, ultimately, it is about competency. Trump is incompetent, regardless of his purported "policies". Harris has demonstrated competency.
When I consider a candidate the first consideration is "Are they competent?". Character is second. Trump has a weak character, obviously. Policy promises only inform me on whether or not the candidate is aligned with my personal philosophies. But character and policy are both irrelevant if the candidate is incompetent.
Absolutely the best bi partisan discussion of these current topics I've seen in any format on any media so far this election year. Thanks Bill.
Remember the times where both candidates were polite and respectful? Both proud of their nation. Man times have changed.
That was Before we were educated that they were complete corrupt crooks who deserve no respect. They should have to wear Winnie the Poo masks.
Do you mean when the candidates were fake? So what Donald Trump is mean He tells you how it is And the truth is not pleasant the world is not pleasant World War 3 is not pleasant
Its the blame game which is always a weak leadership position. Avalon made comments about leadership and both Lowery and McMaster didn't touch that as the problem with Trump. Anyone can start killing people around the world to look tough but where does that lead? Bush blows up Iraq so why didn't the world cower at the strength of the US, it should have been a lasting thing. But then the Middle East strikes back with 9/11 and we were lit up and they found out that the god bleeds. The rest of the world does not fear the US as much as China has brought wealth to these smaller countries, it wasn't the US as US multinationals always suck these countries dry and the people in these countries start to hate the US. I whipped off onto a tangent but ultimately, Trump was more of a problem/fear for our allies than he was a feared character by our enemies. Putin had already secured Crimea, the Donbas and just needed a bit more time to do a slow easy coup to take UKR. Trump loses so now Putin has to weigh his options, will Trump run in 2024, will he be able to win, can I wait any longer and it would seem he couldn't wait. The GOP has done all it could for Putin by not fully backing UKR and for McMaster to not rip the GOP for that is disingenuous on his part since he says he isn't a partisan.
And a Dick Cheney endorsement should be denounced not embraced 😂 shows how the Democrat party has switched to the pro war party
What has changed is that Divisive Donald is one of the candidates. Obama and McCain or Romney -- there was always respect in both directions.
This.
Time I have to agree with bill on this issue.
Now that even Dick Cheney has declared his support for Kamala Harris, what's next? To counter this, Donald Trump must declare that he wants to make Hannibal Lecter his Attorney General.
Dick Cheney the war criminal I'm not surprised, Harris is supporting World War 3
Facts
Who cares what the Cheney family thinks?
Yes, tRUMP needs to go to Hannibal's house to have dinner and discuss his plans.
@lililasagna1073 why are you so jealous of Donald Trump's success is because you've never had any success in your life?
Elon is crazy. No.
What makes you think he's crazy?
Read the autobiography he participated in and authorized
@@lammie2282 I've worked with his companies plenty before and have personally seen the affects of his work. That's what matters
The Africaneers is showing 😂
Of course!
McMaster sounds a lot like James Comey which makes him problematic when he waffles between two supposed extremes by inferring their similarities only to somehow denigrate one of the positions while exonerating the other. Him trying to boast about things trump got right was completely undone by his ultimate point that we all knew in the first place that his own ineptitude unraveled every possible sensible initiative. That's not erratic & inconsistent-it's chaotic & disqualifying-but McMaster refuses to call it a spade. And for all of the talk about how bad Biden handled the Afghanistan withdrawal Maher saved the most important irony of the fake outrage until the very end- 61 people died in Afghanistan under trump while 13 died under Biden. One is too many-but what they DIDN'T mention was Biden's administration didn't have the benefit of a peaceful transfer of power & a warm handoff from trump to get thorough briefings, and LASTLY-Biden's operation rescued 122,000 citizens. Trump never came anywhere close to that yet McMaster is hemming & hawing so that he doesn't offend the extremists in MAGA. Avlon was right-we don't need to normalize anything about us having a contested election between an honorable and accomplished prosecutor like Harris and an incompetent buffoonish & traitorous convicted rapist like trump.
Best show ever: good debate, good ideas, good listening and not over talking so the viewers can hear both sides or all statements. Get these guys to return for more problem solving. RRRoan
HR, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Doesn't mean we should trust it!
but you can trust it twice a day to be correct...lol
He served as NSA director for Trump. I trust his judgement on Trump, have been following him for several years on the podcast "Goodfellows". HR mentions many more times Trump was right than just twice.
Lowry "I'm not a huge Trump guy". No but he prefers him to Harris, so he's a medium Trump guy.
I prefer trump to Harris and I hate trump. She is that bad
@@drater679Wow. Your brain needs recalibration.
Nah. He’s all in on trump.
@@utlaw72 Nah, I find her terrifying
And?? I prefer Trump to the far left
Interesting panel. H.R. McMaster, though, kept saying he was non-partisan, but then spewed right-wing talking points.
He's fooling himself. 😅
@@fashe55 HR has PhD in Military History, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, 1996 / BS, United States Military Academy at West Point, 1984 and currently teaching at Stanford University also a Fellow at the Hoover Institute. He's no fool, to himself, or anyone else.
@@nuqwestr His credentials are not enough to hide his politics, despite the many times he says he’s not partisan while being partisan. So, he is not fooling me even if he maybe fooling himself thinking he can convince us he’s not partisan by saying it many times. Each to his own!
@@fashe55 I've been watching HR on "Goodfellows" for years now, he's not MAGA, nor a Dem or Rep, he's a military academician, that's his affiliation. I'm a Dem and agree with him that Trump is the safer choice for American security, polls show me and him in the majority.
@@nuqwestr You, HR and anyone else can agree on whatever you agree on, that is your prerogative but please do not tell me what to think or believe. Despite his protestations and yours, I heard a partisan take on the issues he discussed and I’ll leave it at that.
Btw, your eagerness to present yourself as a democrat is a tell, just like HR’s constant I’m not partisan BS. I don’t care what y’all think of Trump, none of my business. Just like everyone else, including me, you are entitled to your opinions but not your facts.
Fact is Donald Trump has never been liked or popular with the majority of the American people, ever! So please, keep your alternative facts to yourself. Just like HR, you too are not fooling me even if you fool yourself.
Yes! And the fullness of American history! High school history classes need to be more than one semester and teach 'why the U.S. is the best country in the world.' Give them something to be proud of. We are the first nation founded upon an ideal, rather than tribal identity.
Dick Cheney, you may be beginning to redeem yourself.
Excellent !!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Thank you !!
This Lowery guy is too way out there. Kamala is going to be a very good president.
Did the guy say Harris would be the next FDR like it’s a bad thing?
To him, yes. Apparently, he so loathes FDR, he'd rather support the next Hitler or at best Mussolini. Very American.
Exactly.....we should all pray for a president that could emulate FDR.
of course the billionaires and corporations wouldn't like it but it'd be great for over 300 million citizens.
@@neildutton8077FDR sucked!
No, what he said was she'd want to be the next FDR, trying to accomplish all sorts of unconstitutional damaging acts. Congress and SCOTUS kept FDR from doing all he wanted to, luckily. BTW many economists think FDR's actions prolonged the Great Depression by years. Many people lost their homes due to his bank holiday.
I'm just laughing that people even seriously think Kamala will be the next FDR lol
one of the best overtime episodes for sure!
Lowry is so obnoxious ~ on the show the only way he could hide his duplicitous hypocrisy was to Gish gallop. Really disgusting.
He's a joke.
typical right winger
Reminds me of the guys who couldn’t stop talking about Benghazi and Obama tan suit
I have the same thoughts but for AVLON
But kudos to Maher for having people like Lowry on because there are Americans who believe the points he made have merit. Therefore they should be discussed.
HR McMaster has never had an original thought. He's just an establishment cog.
War Hawk and even though he paints himself as NON-Partisan, he's clearly by rhetoric a staunch militaristic conservative.
Thank you for your service H R .
@@roughhabit9085 HR has a PhD in Military History, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, 1996 BS, United States Military Academy at West Point, 1984, now a teaching Fellow at Stanford University.
Trump DID interrupt Biden 5 times while he was trying to answer a question, but Trump’s mic was off and we just saw Biden distracted by the cross talk we couldn’t hear!
So?Was that rude af? Classless? Yes. But im more concerned that all it takes is interruptions to throw off the PRESIDENTS train of thought.
@@halfcu7103 If Trump’s mic had been on it would have made sense to viewers and less like a senile man with awkward pauses. I wish Biden would have said “Will you shit up man?” like he did during the debates in 2020. Watch a traditional debate where the opponent can control themselves and the mics aren’t cut. Debaters respond to cross talk.
@@robertnobles8189 I agree with you. I strongly believe that an effective debater has the ability to challenge his or her opponent and deal with any interruptions as they arise. Not only did the muted mikes bug me, but I absolutely HATED when Karine Jean-Pierre announced to the White House press pool that President Biden was scheduling a "big boy press conference" - WTF? It was then that I realized that President Biden's cabinet was starting to have doubts about his ability to continue in the race, and the gears were set into motion to work on convincing him to step aside. I still think history will be kind to President Biden once we can reflect back on his accomplishments. However, I think it will be his love of country over his own personal aspirations which will be remembered as a fine act of patriotism and selflessness.
Your making excuses for a senile old man that never should have been president.
@@robertnobles8189 I hear you, but he didn't man up and tell him to shut up 🤷♀️ duznt have it in him, and he makes himself lks senile. I agree it was a terrible idea to mute mics, bt they were trying to help JB, not DT with that move. He was cooked either way.
Wow HR McMaster is reasonable and thoughtful. I am glad he was able to help the administration. I don't understand why it didn't work out.
Good to see John Avalon, great conversation Bill. 👏👏👏 🇬🇧🤝🇺🇲
Avalon is a 🤡 puppet born & raised at Xinn