There is something really neat watching a moldboard plow turning over soil. I enjoy watching as much as I do doing. I agree, you do what works for you. In the case of ground with manure, I do exactly as you do. Your farm is almost exactly like ours. That's why I enjoy your videos so much.
Every once in awhile Dad will tell me stories of his 2nd cousin 1 of em was in the mid 40s he plowed 90 acre 's w/ a JD b & a 1 bottom by the next spring he had a brand new JD A & 3 bottom!
Great Video Mike, I totally agree mouldboard ploughing is the only way to deal with an old lucerne (alfalfa) stand, no till is not no cost the herbicide cost is huge and if you are not fond of spraying then conventional cultivation is the way to go. thanks for sharing
Mike, you are correct, after you find what works best for you, stick with it no matter what others may say. Both fields look great and both plows were doing an awesome job. Back in my days on the farm we had a small dairy also and used most of the manure on out tobacco fields. Lots of good nitrogen put to good use. Love your videos, I've been following you since you started, Keep up the good work and may God bless your family.
Hey Gerald. Hope you are doing well. I remember answering comments from back in the day. I think you were one of the first superclean contest winners. Hopefully everything is going well
The ground looks good! When I was a kid all we had was a turnin' plow. I've turned over a lot of acres and a few with a chisel, but which ever I used... there's nothin' like the smell of fresh worked ground. I know I've said this before... and I will probably again, but it sure is pretty where you live. What a perfect place to be. Stay safe and God bless you and all your family.
Thank you Herb. We were all moldboard plow for many years. It was pretty nice when we got our first chisel plow. God bless you and all your family as well
The way you take care of your farm is best left to you and your family, only you know what is best for you. No one else should dictate how you use your ground. Thanks for sharing how you handle your farm.
Very enjoyable video. Putting the ole 4555 to work. I remember when Jordan's were still farming, all the corn ground got chiseled. All the sod ground got turned over with the plow. Worked very well for them. Tried a couple times just disking the corn ground but it never yielded as well for next season, so the chisel was the main tool for corn. Again, great job showing both these techniques at work on your farm.
I plowed my ground for about 20 years. Covered a lot of acres. I have been all no-till since the mid- 90’s. Your dad is doing an excellent job of plowing. I can see you have the tractor and plow set right. I good plowing job makes discing easy. I am a small dairy farmer like you and spread manure every day. I have no trouble planting on fields that have manure. The row cleaners on the planter brush it to the side ahead of the opener disc’s. In long term no- till the earthworms and the beneficial microbes draw the manure right into the soil. A hay field is a good place to start no-till. The ground hasn’t been compacted by tillage. Works well. That’s it for my sermon on no- till. On my farm I will never till again. Central Wisconsin in clay soils. Hope you have a successful year.
Turning over really well. I did a lot of moldboard plowing in the 70s and 80s and learned to hate it LoL. But l agree with you when plowing sod especially in the spring moldboarding is a good choice.
You done it right, you will have half the yield or stand doing no till, and u will not mix or distribute your fertilizer in the soil and it will not soak into the ground doing no till, no till was a plan like a lot of things now a days that sounded good and looks good on paper but unfortunately in reality don't work very well or at least in my area it doesn't, can't beat fresh tilled soil if you want the best stand or yields great videos keep it coming
Great awesome video mike. We still use the mouldboard plowing all the time , chisel plowing we can’t do due to the rocky ground and the old way works best .
That is a nice tidy job with mould board plough top marks , you have got all the trash (green crop) well buried which makes a good seed bed ,i have seen other farmers half burying the trash then you are fighting the weeds and old crop all year ,good job regards N Ireland .
Plowing very nice!! Don’t let people tell u what to do!! Do what works for you!! I always enjoyed plowing. I still use one to plow up terraces here!! That’s a dandy chisel. No till still has to b worked eventually, if not it gets hard as a road at least here in Kansas!! Have a good one still enjoy your videos...😊😊
Thanks Karl. I would think that about no till. I would think after a while you would have to run a ripper or something in there to break up the compaction. I know some of our fields get pretty hard with the equipment we use so I can only imagine these bigger outfits
You are spot on about no till Mike. It's ok some places. Here it's field to field. I have had success plowing sod with a chisel plow. But I had sprayed it with roundup first and let it dry up first
Mike , I agree with you talking about what you like , I agree , many farmers have all kind of ideas , my father back in the 30 & 40 's farmed with horses , no tractors , I helped my uncle back in the early 60 's , many old ways back then , my grandfather also old ways , this was sugar beets , milo maze , pinto beans , produce , hay , corn , field corn & ect . I still go out today & watch them , planting chiles peppers , cabbage , onions , red beets , sweet corn & ect . It's in my blood , but at 74 years old , health reasons , age now I watch & dream ! Memories ! Pueblo Colorado , go to Musso farms web site & watch when you get a chance ! Your family farms totally different , these farms 100- 1000 acres only , no milk cows , some farmers raise beef , hogs & ect . Stay safe , enjoy !
I was using a Case 830 & an Oliver 3 x 16" plow when I was 12. When I was 14, I was upgraded to our "big" tractor at the time a MF 1135 and a White 5 x 16" plow. I used that thing for many years. We still like to turn over our old sod fields, chisel our corn fields and no-till our soybean fields.
@@mikep7810 Totally. We are able to spread both our liquid from our dairy barn and our pen pack stuff. We are near enough to a mushroom grower so we can get plenty of that compost. There are also some turkey producers we can get semi loads of manure from them as well.
Another advantage of chiseling is it is so much quicker than moldboard. We do the same as you, moldboard sod and chisel worked ground. Works well that way
Moldboard plowing is still the best way to plow a hay field unless you go to the expense of spraying it first to kill the hay or grass. I always enjoyed moldboard plowing when I was a teenager many many years ago!😂
We rotate corn and beans and plant no-till corn into last years soybean stubble which works great..but like you said what works for you and thats why we still till our corn on corn ground and also disk our cornstalks going into beans..200+ corn these days leaves alot of trash and can cause no-till planting problems, not to mention slow warming up the ground which slows down plant growth here in the upper midwest.. Thanks Mike
Yeah thats a good point. We've come a long way and have these great seeds that make 200+ corn and it does leaves a lot of trash. When we upgraded our combine we were able to get done with harvest so much quicker this past year and I was able to get out there and disk the stalks before snow flew.
In Saudi Arabia, we use the chisel, but it is small. One chisel is in the muddy ground, which causes problems. Now we have started using the triple discs, which are very good and do not keep rocks or sand clumps and make the soil very soft.❤❤
Great reasoning for doing it the way you do. That's some lovely looking dirt in that field. Just check the video settings on your drone, it's low quality.
Hey mike the old guy i help alway plow to break the earth up said it was better for the ground.but what ever work foryou keep up the good job take care have a good one .
How does a guy finish the end rows with a moldboard? Here in Iowa modern tillage equipment has basically eliminated the need for plowing altogether so I've never seen it done but it's still an interesting concept to me
I would say if you’re a dairy farmer it’s pretty hard to go no till with spreading the manure. I see farming fixing and fabricating does lots of tillage. If you were just straight green farming then you could probably get away with just some vertical tillage. Good video Mike!
Nice to see that you are not using chemicals to burn down that alfalfa. That seems to be the more common practice these days. If you turn around and get that plowed ground planted, erosion should not be a big deal. Does anyone use a rotary hoe, or cultivate anymore. When i quit farming over thirty years ago, i used both mechanical tillage for weeds and, some herbicides, I used my plow for corn ground and turning under alfalfa, my chisel plow i used on small grain, and soybean ground. It seemed to work pretty well, and, i did not have to rely on chemical weed control only to control weeds, ect.
We had a really old cultivator that we just got rid of but we never used it in between the corn rows like guys use to do back in the day. Sounds like you plow the same way we do.
I just got done at around 8 o clock disking the frame on are chisel broke where the wheel it’s so not we have to fix it but most of what we were going to do is done nice video
One thing we found by doing notill is it takes so long to dry out and warm up in the spring somtimes we are a week or 2 behind others on planting date waiting for it to dry and it's hard to get consistent yield field to field year to year
Yeah that makes sense. When I chisel the fields it opens it up and lets it warm up and dry out so I can see how leaving the ground packed and insolated would do that
Sorry about that, I should have explained that better. Moldboard plows are different sizes. This one is a 4 bottom or 4 furrow plow. It has 4 moldboards or those shovel type polished steel that turns the dirt over. The 18 inch is the size of them.
I do the same. Moldboard plow the sod ground and chisel the bean and corn ground. The main reason I till is because I love doing it. Nothing against notill. What is your soil type? Works up really nice.
Isn’t like a chisel plow somewhat suited for bigger operations mostly not saying it isn’t used on smaller ones but can’t you do more ground per hour with a chisel plow versus a moldboard plow. I have never ever seen anyone moldboard plow around me all gets chisel plowed. I even did some for the first time ever by myself last fall and I had a lot of fun chisel plowing. The only problem is that when you go to soil finish before planting it is so dang bumpy. I put the seat belt on in the big tractor when I finish ground because we have a mcfarlanes reel disk which works best if you go between 8 and 10 miles an hour. The tractor has an air ride seat and air ride cab but you can’t hardly stay in the seat at those speeds.
They have all different sizes of chisel plows. We actually had a smaller 7 shank that we started out with and upgraded to this 9. I know what you mean by bumpy when its done. We take the disk over it and it smooths it out nice then we hit it with a roller harrow and it makes a nice smooth seed bed
Mike which type of plowing does your father like to do best? On this Farm before dad took over the previous owners moldboard plowed most of the time. Here and there they would borrow a chisel plow to turn some dirt.
My dad is the moldboard plower and I'm the chiseler. He likes both ways. We think the same where the moldboard does such a good job at turning over that sod and the chisel does good with the other ground
Agree with you on the no till issue. Depends on the type of soil you have and what is lying on top such as stalks and manure as well as how many acres you are farming.
@@mikep7810 We farmed a 240 acre dairy farm and chisel plows weren't around in the 1950's thru the 1980's although they were coming about in the 80's. We moldboard plowed almost everything. We did a few times use a disk and harrow if we planted corn on corn.
I run the disk over it and it fills it in. Depending which way we are plowing and where the dead furrow is I might have to go over it a couple of times. We are about to moldboard a field so stay tuned and I'll make sure I video filling in the dead furrow
In most cases a "real" plow makes a better Job, my opinion. Especially on fields with corn or lots of other debris. Farmers here nearly never use a disk or some thing, they all turn the ground.
I always like mowboard poughing but hated picking stones so switched offset discing just run over sod couple times then once over the tandem disc but like say that worked for me may not work for you
Luckily when I went over that field he plowed with the moldboard plow in this video there wasn't many stones. We've done fields before that were I have never seen so many stones before
So you tell me whats the biggest benefit of no till except the cost, its a everlasting discusion, just what you say ,do what suids you, thanks and greetings from a Dutch dairyfarmer
When you use a moldboard plow the same field in subsequent years, do you reverse directions so you aren’t always moving the soil in the same direction and causing an elevation change?
We don't use the moldboard plow in the same field on back to back seasons. We basically use the moldboard to turn sod over. Once that sod is turned over and we plant corn in it I will come through the next tillage season with the chisel plow.
@@mikep7810 Right, but if you use it again in like 4 years and go the same direction, you'll move the soil slightly again. Repeat that for a lifetime. I'd guess that the intervening years' chisel plowing, cultivating, planting, and natural erosion during rain will spread the soil back out to where it came from, but I wonder if it's 100%. I'm a geek, so I dive into technical stuff like this. 🤓
I'm not sure how much the plow weighs so I'm not sure. I like the guide wheel in the back of the plow with the plow being lifted up by the 2 arms. It allows a pivot point between tractor and plow and goes over hills better then when the plow is fixed to the tractor
Always liked how the ground looked after being turned over with the moldboard plow. I remember being about 8 riding around in the cab and getting to control the plow wheel.
Depends on the field. The higher ground is a more gravely ground. Its great drainage and dries off pretty good. It sucks in summers like we had last summer where we didn't get much rain. Down by our river its got small pockets of rocky spots but its more sandy
Absolutely, the v rip goes down at least 22 inches,depending what tractor we use.plowing is much easier,faster and does a much better job at laying the sod over.whi c
It actually works out really well. Our 4055 wouldn't be able to pull that chisel plow and the 4555 is turned up to 200hp so that tractor is way to big for that 4 bottom plow
@@mikep7810 didn't realise it was only 4 bottoms, should be 7 to try out that trick 4555 and see how it turns it over. I used 200 HP in a Case 2 wheeler 504 cid. 6 to 7 mph on the flat. 5 bottom 18 inch cut.
@danthurman9076 We hardly ever moldboard anymore. Only thing we moldboard plow is any alfalfa or sod ground we are turning over. Our main plow is the chisel plow
I wasn't trying to complain about people not minding their business. I think most people are genuine or curious when they ask. I agree the people that flat out just tell you what you should be doing make me laugh but this video was just basically showing them how and why we do what we do. If everyone minded their own business I'd get no view on my videos! Haha
Even though a lot of what your saying is old hat to me, I stilllove seeing your videos. The moldboard plowing videos really take me back.
I'm glad you enjoy the videos. I enjoy watching the moldboard plow work too
There is something really neat watching a moldboard plow turning over soil. I enjoy watching as much as I do doing. I agree, you do what works for you. In the case of ground with manure, I do exactly as you do. Your farm is almost exactly like ours. That's why I enjoy your videos so much.
I'm glad you enjoy it Anthony. One of the things I like about RUclips is seeing the different ways farmers go about things
Every once in awhile Dad will tell me stories of his 2nd cousin 1 of em was in the mid 40s he plowed 90 acre 's w/ a JD b & a 1 bottom by the next spring he had a brand new JD A & 3 bottom!
I was thinking about that when I was watching the antique plow days.
Great Video Mike, I totally agree mouldboard ploughing is the only way to deal with an old lucerne (alfalfa) stand, no till is not no cost the herbicide cost is huge and if you are not fond of spraying then conventional cultivation is the way to go. thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed the video
Whatever works for you, keep going! Forget what the keyboard commandos say and you do what voodoo and keep going and keep making great videos!
Thank you, I appreciate it
You’re 100% right Mike. You have to do what’s best for your farm and dirt. I do like watching the moldboard plow flipping dirt.
Its pretty neat to sit there and watch
I agree Mike, moldboard plowing in sod is a lot better!
Mike, you are correct, after you find what works best for you, stick with it no matter what others may say. Both fields look great and both plows were doing an awesome job. Back in my days on the farm we had a small dairy also and used most of the manure on out tobacco fields. Lots of good nitrogen put to good use. Love your videos, I've been following you since you started, Keep up the good work and may God bless your family.
Hey Gerald. Hope you are doing well. I remember answering comments from back in the day. I think you were one of the first superclean contest winners. Hopefully everything is going well
The ground looks good! When I was a kid all we had was a turnin' plow. I've turned over a lot of acres and a few with a chisel, but which ever I used... there's nothin' like the smell of fresh worked ground. I know I've said this before... and I will probably again, but it sure is pretty where you live. What a perfect place to be. Stay safe and God bless you and all your family.
Thank you Herb. We were all moldboard plow for many years. It was pretty nice when we got our first chisel plow. God bless you and all your family as well
@@mikep7810
Thank you, but there's only me.
Yeah but you are part of the Mikep7810 RUclips family so god bless you all!
The way you take care of your farm is best left to you and your family, only you know what is best for you. No one else should dictate how you use your ground. Thanks for sharing how you handle your farm.
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the video
Very enjoyable video. Putting the ole 4555 to work. I remember when Jordan's were still farming, all the corn ground got chiseled. All the sod ground got turned over with the plow. Worked very well for them. Tried a couple times just disking the corn ground but it never yielded as well for next season, so the chisel was the main tool for corn. Again, great job showing both these techniques at work on your farm.
Thank you. That chisel does a good job on the corn ground thats for sure
Great work again. Can almost smell the plough ground. 😀 Stay safe 🏴
You should have smelled the one I chiseled mixing in the manure!
@@mikep7810 😂💩🤢🤭 nice 👍
I plowed my ground for about 20 years. Covered a lot of acres. I have been all no-till since the mid- 90’s. Your dad is doing an excellent job of plowing. I can see you have the tractor and plow set right. I good plowing job makes discing easy. I am a small dairy farmer like you and spread manure every day. I have no trouble planting on fields that have manure. The row cleaners on the planter brush it to the side ahead of the opener disc’s. In long term no- till the earthworms and the beneficial microbes draw the manure right into the soil. A hay field is a good place to start no-till. The ground hasn’t been compacted by tillage. Works well. That’s it for my sermon on no- till. On my farm I will never till again. Central Wisconsin in clay soils. Hope you have a successful year.
Thanks Greg. I'm not against no-till at all. One of the things I like about RUclips is seeing the different ways people farm.
Turning over really well. I did a lot of moldboard plowing in the 70s and 80s and learned to hate it LoL. But l agree with you when plowing sod especially in the spring moldboarding is a good choice.
Thanks Rick. We use to be all moldboard plowing. We love the chisel plow now
You done it right, you will have half the yield or stand doing no till, and u will not mix or distribute your fertilizer in the soil and it will not soak into the ground doing no till, no till was a plan like a lot of things now a days that sounded good and looks good on paper but unfortunately in reality don't work very well or at least in my area it doesn't, can't beat fresh tilled soil if you want the best stand or yields great videos keep it coming
Thanks Brian. We've had good luck doing it the way we have been doing it
Agree when you turn the dirt the soil warms up faster better yields hands down. No till isn't the answer
Great awesome video mike. We still use the mouldboard plowing all the time , chisel plowing we can’t do due to the rocky ground and the old way works best .
Yeah thats one of the problems with the chisel plow they do bring the rocks up to the top
Very interesting video about the different plowing you do on your farm thanks again for the video
Thank you Andrew, I'm glad you enjoyed it
That is a nice tidy job with mould board plough top marks , you have got all the trash (green crop) well buried which makes a good seed bed ,i have seen other farmers half burying the trash then you are fighting the weeds and old crop all year ,good job regards N Ireland .
Thank you Frank. My dad takes a lot of pride in his moldboard plowing
Plowing very nice!! Don’t let people tell u what to do!! Do what works for you!! I always enjoyed plowing. I still use one to plow up terraces here!! That’s a dandy chisel. No till still has to b worked eventually, if not it gets hard as a road at least here in Kansas!! Have a good one still enjoy your videos...😊😊
Thanks Karl. I would think that about no till. I would think after a while you would have to run a ripper or something in there to break up the compaction. I know some of our fields get pretty hard with the equipment we use so I can only imagine these bigger outfits
mikep7810 yes, it needs ripped eventually...
You are spot on about no till Mike. It's ok some places. Here it's field to field.
I have had success plowing sod with a chisel plow. But I had sprayed it with roundup first and let it dry up first
Yeah the time I tried it we didn't spray it so I actually went over it a 2nd time to try to break it up more
Mike , I agree with you talking about what you like , I agree , many farmers have all kind of ideas , my father back in the 30 & 40 's farmed with horses , no tractors , I helped my uncle back in the early 60 's , many old ways back then , my grandfather also old ways , this was sugar beets , milo maze , pinto beans , produce , hay , corn , field corn & ect . I still go out today & watch them , planting chiles peppers , cabbage , onions , red beets , sweet corn & ect . It's in my blood , but at 74 years old , health reasons , age now I watch & dream ! Memories ! Pueblo Colorado , go to Musso farms web site & watch when you get a chance ! Your family farms totally different , these farms 100- 1000 acres only , no milk cows , some farmers raise beef , hogs & ect . Stay safe , enjoy !
Thanks Robert. Thats one of the things about RUclips that I enjoy the most is watching the different ways farms do things
I was using a Case 830 & an Oliver 3 x 16" plow when I was 12. When I was 14, I was upgraded to our "big" tractor at the time a MF 1135 and a White 5 x 16" plow. I used that thing for many years. We still like to turn over our old sod fields, chisel our corn fields and no-till our soybean fields.
You basically plow just like we plow accept for the no till part. Its nice to get that manure in there
@@mikep7810 Totally. We are able to spread both our liquid from our dairy barn and our pen pack stuff. We are near enough to a mushroom grower so we can get plenty of that compost. There are also some turkey producers we can get semi loads of manure from them as well.
Sounds like you have some good stuff to put down
Like your video and I like the way you farm. Waiting on the next video.
Thank you Devin. I'm glad you enjoyed the video
Great vid Mike, the 4055 handles the 4 bottom nice. You wouldn t know there was alfalfa in that field when your through. Thanks from Georgian Bay.
Thanks Don. My dad takes a lot of pride in his moldboard plowing
“We don’t do it that way, so obviously you’re doing it wrong”
Sounds about right, lol
Someone always knows better 🤔
@@tomhough3649 thanks internet 🙄
I mean, I've done a lot of wrong things in my life so some of them might not be totally off! Haha
@@mikep7810 😂😂
Another advantage of chiseling is it is so much quicker than moldboard. We do the same as you, moldboard sod and chisel worked ground. Works well that way
Yeah we've had good luck with it
Moldboard plowing is still the best way to plow a hay field unless you go to the expense of spraying it first to kill the hay or grass. I always enjoyed moldboard plowing when I was a teenager many many years ago!😂
There is something about it. Its fun to sit there and watch
@@mikep7810 True but I had more fun doing it!
I bet
We rotate corn and beans and plant no-till corn into last years soybean stubble which works great..but like you said what works for you and thats why we still till our corn on corn ground and also disk our cornstalks going into beans..200+ corn these days leaves alot of trash and can cause no-till planting problems, not to mention slow warming up the ground which slows down plant growth here in the upper midwest.. Thanks Mike
Yeah thats a good point. We've come a long way and have these great seeds that make 200+ corn and it does leaves a lot of trash. When we upgraded our combine we were able to get done with harvest so much quicker this past year and I was able to get out there and disk the stalks before snow flew.
Another good video. Keep them coming.
Thank you Erik
Thanks for the video Mike 😃🌽🌽🐄🐄
Thanks for watching it Keith
Great video 👍 alot of ploughing still in uk I think it does a better job if done right 👍
Take care stay safe 👌 cheers 👍 🐜
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. How are things going across the pond?
In Saudi Arabia, we use the chisel, but it is small. One chisel is in the muddy ground, which causes problems. Now we have started using the triple discs, which are very good and do not keep rocks or sand clumps and make the soil very soft.❤❤
Neat to hear what they do in different places.
G'day Mike great video mate
G'day Murphy. Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it
Killer footage👍👍
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoy it
turning down organic material builds the ground you cant hide it over time it shows for sure thanks for shareing god bless
Glad you enjoyed it Ivan
That is pure QUALITY your doing
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it
I have to agree- I have always found that the moldboard plow does a much better job on sod ground. Not that I plow much each year lol
There has been a couple years we didn't get it out at all and just chiseled everything. This past year we ended up turning over a couple fields
i agree both type of plows have their purpose cant beat a moldboard plow for plowing turf
Absolutely. I don't like using the chisel on sod ground. Especially when I see how good the moldboard plow does on a sod ground
I'm old school, and would use the bottom plow every time.
It is cool to watch the moldboard plows work
Chisel ploughing works best when there is no sod. Furrow ploughing is best where there is sod.
Thats how we do it
Great reasoning for doing it the way you do. That's some lovely looking dirt in that field. Just check the video settings on your drone, it's low quality.
Yeah it was some nice dirt
I remember watching a 4040 ploughing with a 3 furrow reversible plough when I was a kid
They are fun to watch
For your situation you are you are doing what works.
Absolutely
Neat seeng the chisel plow work
Its a great chisel plow
Vacuum pump in the background at the end. Heard that for a while when I was younger.
Its a sound that always brings back memories
Hey mike the old guy i help alway plow to break the earth up said it was better for the ground.but what ever work foryou keep up the good job take care have a good one .
Yeah thats why we rotate our stuff too so we aren't planting the same crop in the same fields all the time
How does a guy finish the end rows with a moldboard? Here in Iowa modern tillage equipment has basically eliminated the need for plowing altogether so I've never seen it done but it's still an interesting concept to me
The ends we plow in. Its usually 3 or 4 passes
Your doing it right 😊 !!!!!
Thanks Tim. I appreciate it
Looks good
Thank you Adrian
I would say if you’re a dairy farmer it’s pretty hard to go no till with spreading the manure. I see farming fixing and fabricating does lots of tillage. If you were just straight green farming then you could probably get away with just some vertical tillage. Good video Mike!
Yeah that manure is really good fertilizer and it works really well when you work it into the ground
Nice to see that you are not using chemicals to burn down that alfalfa. That seems to be the more common practice these days. If you turn around and get that plowed ground planted, erosion should not be a big deal. Does anyone use a rotary hoe, or cultivate anymore. When i quit farming over thirty years ago, i used both mechanical tillage for weeds and, some herbicides, I used my plow for corn ground and turning under alfalfa, my chisel plow i used on small grain, and soybean ground. It seemed to work pretty well, and, i did not have to rely on chemical weed control only to control weeds, ect.
We had a really old cultivator that we just got rid of but we never used it in between the corn rows like guys use to do back in the day. Sounds like you plow the same way we do.
I just got done at around 8 o clock disking the frame on are chisel broke where the wheel it’s so not we have to fix it but most of what we were going to do is done nice video
Good luck fixing it. Good thing you have most of it plowed already
4-18. Nice high clearance plow. You could plow a clothes dryer under.
Its a very good plow and goes a great job
I love this tractor is amazing
Thank you Carlos
One thing we found by doing notill is it takes so long to dry out and warm up in the spring somtimes we are a week or 2 behind others on planting date waiting for it to dry and it's hard to get consistent yield field to field year to year
Yeah that makes sense. When I chisel the fields it opens it up and lets it warm up and dry out so I can see how leaving the ground packed and insolated would do that
Love the videos. Always something new everyday out there I'm sure. What do you mean 4 18's on the plow. Thanks
Sorry about that, I should have explained that better. Moldboard plows are different sizes. This one is a 4 bottom or 4 furrow plow. It has 4 moldboards or those shovel type polished steel that turns the dirt over. The 18 inch is the size of them.
I do the same. Moldboard plow the sod ground and chisel the bean and corn ground. The main reason I till is because I love doing it. Nothing against notill. What is your soil type? Works up really nice.
Thanks. The fields in this video is a gravely type of soil
Good job
Thank you Stuart
Isn’t like a chisel plow somewhat suited for bigger operations mostly not saying it isn’t used on smaller ones but can’t you do more ground per hour with a chisel plow versus a moldboard plow. I have never ever seen anyone moldboard plow around me all gets chisel plowed. I even did some for the first time ever by myself last fall and I had a lot of fun chisel plowing. The only problem is that when you go to soil finish before planting it is so dang bumpy. I put the seat belt on in the big tractor when I finish ground because we have a mcfarlanes reel disk which works best if you go between 8 and 10 miles an hour. The tractor has an air ride seat and air ride cab but you can’t hardly stay in the seat at those speeds.
They have all different sizes of chisel plows. We actually had a smaller 7 shank that we started out with and upgraded to this 9. I know what you mean by bumpy when its done. We take the disk over it and it smooths it out nice then we hit it with a roller harrow and it makes a nice smooth seed bed
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Not too bad. There were times they didn't look too good
Mike which type of plowing does your father like to do best? On this Farm before dad took over the previous owners moldboard plowed most of the time. Here and there they would borrow a chisel plow to turn some dirt.
My dad is the moldboard plower and I'm the chiseler. He likes both ways. We think the same where the moldboard does such a good job at turning over that sod and the chisel does good with the other ground
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Agree with you on the no till issue. Depends on the type of soil you have and what is lying on top such as stalks and manure as well as how many acres you are farming.
We are a small farm. We farm a couple hundred
@@mikep7810 We farmed a 240 acre dairy farm and chisel plows weren't around in the 1950's thru the 1980's although they were coming about in the 80's. We moldboard plowed almost everything. We did a few times use a disk and harrow if we planted corn on corn.
@@mikep7810 thanks for the comeback Mike. Enjoy your videos!
Thanks Dale I appreciate it. I like replying to comments so always feel free to drop a line when you check out a video
Mike when you moldoard it leave the trench for the next pass. When you're finished how do you get rid of that last trench>
I run the disk over it and it fills it in. Depending which way we are plowing and where the dead furrow is I might have to go over it a couple of times. We are about to moldboard a field so stay tuned and I'll make sure I video filling in the dead furrow
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In most cases a "real" plow makes a better Job, my opinion. Especially on fields with corn or lots of other debris. Farmers here nearly never use a disk or some thing, they all turn the ground.
We had a smaller and lighter disk and when we went to the heavier John Deere disk we have now it made a lot of difference. It does a great job
I always like mowboard poughing but hated picking stones so switched offset discing just run over sod couple times then once over the tandem disc but like say that worked for me may not work for you
Luckily when I went over that field he plowed with the moldboard plow in this video there wasn't many stones. We've done fields before that were I have never seen so many stones before
So you tell me whats the biggest benefit of no till except the cost, its a everlasting discusion, just what you say ,do what suids you, thanks and greetings from a Dutch dairyfarmer
To me its more of a benefit to get that cow manure into the soil. You know how that stuff is. My dad calls it liquid gold
That's what it is, period
When you use a moldboard plow the same field in subsequent years, do you reverse directions so you aren’t always moving the soil in the same direction and causing an elevation change?
We don't use the moldboard plow in the same field on back to back seasons. We basically use the moldboard to turn sod over. Once that sod is turned over and we plant corn in it I will come through the next tillage season with the chisel plow.
@@mikep7810 Right, but if you use it again in like 4 years and go the same direction, you'll move the soil slightly again. Repeat that for a lifetime. I'd guess that the intervening years' chisel plowing, cultivating, planting, and natural erosion during rain will spread the soil back out to where it came from, but I wonder if it's 100%. I'm a geek, so I dive into technical stuff like this. 🤓
Mike? I watch George Saunders he has a 3 point flip plow. Is tour tractor heavy enough 2 hold it just curious. Thanks Florida Joe
I'm not sure how much the plow weighs so I'm not sure. I like the guide wheel in the back of the plow with the plow being lifted up by the 2 arms. It allows a pivot point between tractor and plow and goes over hills better then when the plow is fixed to the tractor
So you're saying I need a mold board plow for my hay fields 😉
Haha, It would help keeping the weeds under control!
@@mikep7810 yeah we just tilled with rotor tiller and disc 😬
@@This1LifeWeLive How many acres did you work up and what are you planting in there?
@@mikep7810 tilling up sod and planting orchard grass 😉. Max of 10 acres right now. We till in chunks so all our hay isn't trying to grow at once
@@This1LifeWeLive Nice. I hope it comes in well!
I always hated molboard plowing for some reason 🤷♂️
Always liked how the ground looked after being turned over with the moldboard plow. I remember being about 8 riding around in the cab and getting to control the plow wheel.
I like the Job it does on the sod ground. I love the job the chisel plow does and I'm glad we do most of our plowing with that
Hey you ever tried no till I’m trying it this year to see how it does
No we haven't
With no tilling, if you don’t have fertilizer with it you’re wasting your time
Yeah that cow manure makes for some good fertilizer
What is y’all’s biggest tractor
That 4555 is our biggest tractor. Its turned up a little and running around 200 pto horsepower
Didn't there used to be a chrome stack on the 4055?
There did. It's leaning up against my tool box right now. I think they were getting tired of it
What kind of soil do you have where you are located
Depends on the field. The higher ground is a more gravely ground. Its great drainage and dries off pretty good. It sucks in summers like we had last summer where we didn't get much rain. Down by our river its got small pockets of rocky spots but its more sandy
What happened to the chrome pipe?
Its leaning up against my tool box. It was time for a change
I think moldboard plowing is better as I can get a lot more manure in a field and I get much better crop yield than chisel and no til.
The moldboard plow definitely does a good job
Looks like you need a bigger chisel plow and go a little deeper.
I need a lot of things
We now v-rip the sod,and then mouldbord plow.one more trip,but works better for us
How does that v-rip break up the sod? Does it do a good job?
Absolutely, the v rip goes down at least 22 inches,depending what tractor we use.plowing is much easier,faster and does a much better job at laying the sod over.whi c
Which makes the field look better,and quicker to disk.some farmers put a roller basket behind the v-rip also.especially if they don't moldboard
12 inches not 22.lol
Haha I was gonna say that must be a pretty big tractor to go 22!
You need an IH plow, just saying 😉😂
I need a lot of things!
@@mikep7810 you and me both!
On that sucks, front wheel assist on the chisel plow, should be reversed.
It actually works out really well. Our 4055 wouldn't be able to pull that chisel plow and the 4555 is turned up to 200hp so that tractor is way to big for that 4 bottom plow
@@mikep7810 didn't realise it was only 4 bottoms, should be 7 to try out that trick 4555 and see how it turns it over. I used 200 HP in a Case 2 wheeler 504 cid. 6 to 7 mph on the flat. 5 bottom 18 inch cut.
@danthurman9076 We hardly ever moldboard anymore. Only thing we moldboard plow is any alfalfa or sod ground we are turning over. Our main plow is the chisel plow
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I seen that
Why don't people just mind their own business.....
I wasn't trying to complain about people not minding their business. I think most people are genuine or curious when they ask. I agree the people that flat out just tell you what you should be doing make me laugh but this video was just basically showing them how and why we do what we do. If everyone minded their own business I'd get no view on my videos! Haha