Virus Desimates Small Town | Diagnosis Unknown | Real Responders
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- Опубликовано: 9 янв 2020
- After a nurse treats five cases of pneumonia in a single night outside of Roanoke, Virginia, she notifies local health officials. Tests confirm that the patients have contracted Legionnaire’s disease, an acute and often deadly form of pneumonia that spreads and escalates rapidly.
A week later, a 50-year-old man is dead and there are a total of 15 confirmed cases. Testing by the CDC reveals that all of the patients are infected with the same strain of bacteria. This can only mean one thing, an outbreak. People in the community are hysterical. Local and federal health authorities scramble to find the origin in order to prevent further infections.
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I had Legionnaires disease, and it was terrible. I went to six different doctors, being misdiagnosed every single time. I did not believe the doctors misdiagnosis, thank goodness, and the seventh doctor told me, I had Legionnaires disease, and asked me if I would like the correct antibiotic, before the blood tests came through. He said he was almost sure, as he had had Legionnaires himself, and this is how he knew. As soon as I started taking the antibiotic, within two days, I started improving. The results came through and were positive. To this day, I have no idea where I contracted it. I had mycoplasma as well. This is quite a frightening disease, but I was lucky, but I was on antibiotics for a long time.
Fred Rayner I do not have an air conditioner, nor have I ever had one. I am still at a loss as to where I contracted Legionnaires. I clean my drains regularly too, and pour bleach into the drains and then flush them thoroughly. Thank you for the heads up though. I was aware that you can contract Legionnaires through air conditioning units. Perhaps, I contracted it at one of the shopping malls, or even from an air conditioner at work. Who knows?
Jack Sprat you can get it from hot tubs also
suzanne patterson Wish to goodness, I had those kinds of luxuries. Neither an a/c, nor a hot tub, nor a jacuzzi, or anything else like that. I wish. 😄😂
I’m glad that doctors picked it up ,
Tina Collins I was very relieved too. I was lucky, because it is not always easy to diagnose.
watching this during the corona virus outbreak is a trip
Makes me more scared
I legit came to say the same thing.
@PeRFeCT IMPeRFeCTiON people y
Good thing I’m not scared of “another form of flu”. I have a higher chance of getting killed by a stray bullet from a thug than I do of dying from the good old Corucus virus 🦠😷🤒🥴
Jennyfer Marshall you’re not kidding. In 2020 they would call it a hoax & refuse to take precautions. It is insane behavior I’ve never witnessed in my life‼️
Great job to all of the healthcare professionals who are working together no matter what to help them and deserve praise
I remember the original outbreak in Philadelphia, PA. In 77 that was scary. No one knew what was happening.
I remember it well, as we lived a handful of miles from Philly.
The description is wrong though, legionella is a bacteria, not a virus. A gram negative bacteria, for those interested (gram negative bacteria are protected against certain families of antibiotics and have a protein that can trigger septic shock when many of the bacteria are killed).
I well remember. I was going to school in Philadelphia at that time.
I know this was a re-enactment, but every time they went to a spot, I was screaming at the fact that this could be in the air around them, and that they were not wearing masks or anything.
Yeah the producers and medical teams should really know about a virus in 2020 in a tv show that aired in the early 1990’s. What the hell is wrong with them?
Lol ! I find myself cringing on many TV shows when people are all too close together and a kiss OMG !
Masks don't protect against viruses, because virus particles are too small.
As a microbiologist, there were a lot of things in here that got me. xD Specifically, the pronunciation of L. pneumophilia....the narrator missed an "I" in there lol.
Fun fact: The way we test for Legionnaire's in the lab, now, is through urine, because antigen from the bacteria is secreted in that way.
@@dameashelyattic5247 - good sarcasm Ashely!
Nursing and other people are key in helping specialist by providing the support so greatly needed. Those are the unspoken heroes. Hospital staff and other staff are specialists too.
Thank you😊
Here in Staffordshire in the midlands of the UK there was an outbreak of legionnaires disease and the source was found to be a hot tub in a home improvement warehouse. 2 people died from it
His sense of instinct even beyond negative tests from CDC is remarkable. He has the heart of a True Healthcare Practitioner.... Data doesn't prove everything!
Unless you're a woman and then you're still just making it all up, with clinical data.
And if you have Lyme, they tell you it’s fibromyalgia. Especially if you’re a woman.
Or if you're overweight, it's just your weight, and everything will be fine when you lose weight.
@@sigsin1 If you have fibromyalgia, cutting sugar out of your diet (you can still have a little on weekends), and going on a mostly alkaline diet should help resolve the problem, but that probably won't help with Lyme.
It's usually Air Conditioner Cooling Towers that aren't maintained correctly disperse the Bacteria over a vast area down wind over public areas below !!!!
I can't even imagine how scary this must have been for this town!
Kudos to all the Drs+ recognitions who worked tiressly to find the source+ eradicate it!!! Well done!!
I got sick with a rare form of pneumonia in 2017. Actually died twice while in the hospital. It had been 113 years since they had seen the form of pneumonia I had. CDC came in to Seattle from Atlanta because of it. Anyone entering my room had to put on full PPE for a week. I was in ICU for a week in a medicated coma due to the surgery done on my lungs. spent a total of 3.5 weeks in the hospital. it is known as one of the most painful surgeries to recover from.
Sorry, Cathy, sounds like a nightmare. :(
I was an otherwise healthy 25 year old female when I caught legionnaires back in 1987. I was working as a bank courier in Dallas Tx. Was in and out of all banks in the DFW area and the DFW airports. It was horrible. I literally thought I was going to die. Nearly did. Mine was the only case so no investigation was done. I coughed for a year afterwards and learned how to sleep sitting up otherwise I coughed every breath.
@@MikaelVitalyVyacheslav-bh2fk if prions were infecting humans, zombies would be wondering our streets.
Mad Cow, Wasting Disease, Zombie Deers, prion infections are insanely rare and insanely dangerous. And fast acting. Far faster than alzheimer's. There are very few cases in humans.
It's spread from the waste of animals; eating contaminated grass, drinking contaminated water, or breathing in pee.
@@MikaelVitalyVyacheslav-bh2fk
Prions infect the brain bud. And are a type of virus.... Both the video and OP of this thread are talking about a _bacteria_ that affects the respiratory system.
Go take your vegan fear mongering somewhere else 🙄
That's very bad and sorry for your miss fortune..I'm aware it can grow in hot water tanks ,that are set on a low temperature. Not hot enough to kill it ,but warm enough to breed in the tank. Then you get it by 🚿
@@mksabourinable Prions are not a virus; prions are bent proteins.
@@yeetghostrat alzhiemers onset is gradual over a fairly long period of time compared to a viral bacterial fungal infection
Watching this during COVID is a real eye opener Please adhere to safety restrictions
This is how a serious situation should be handled starting with the er doctor, and right down the line everyone working TOGETHER and doing the job. You can't beat team work ❤ Bravo 😊
Really interesting I didn't know before watching that pneumonia wasn't a disease itself but caused by some other factors like infection or substance.
Yes, I learned that as well.
Pneumonia comes in very different forms causes by many different things bacterial viral and fungal or parasites are the most common causes or contributing factors
I’ve gotten it after bronchitis. I get a cold, I get bronchitis, I get pneumonia.
Pneumococ is deadly....
It is even a vaxine against pneumonia.
I got the vaxine after several pnumonias.
On can get pneumonia of something so innocent as a cold. Or the flu.
Many types of it,too.
Incredible Job narrowing down the source of the Outbreak. The way they narrowed the Source to a single Hot Tub Filter was Amazing work by these Dr.s and Health Officials. It’s very comforting to know we have such knowledgeable People dedicating their Lives to protecting the Public from such Diseases. Thank You to everyone involved.
I will be 64 this year and I am hellalot old. Ha ha. I just don't let it bother me. I was told that I had 6 months to live. I think that was over 4 years ago. I'm on borrowed time as it is. I try to be thankful for every day ❣️. Like today. I was able to spend it celebrating my grandson's birthday. Thank you so much for that whatever people call you now, God, the Universe, Jesus, you know what I mean.
Marilyn Michell you are a very positive lady it must be wonderful for your family and friends to be around you because you lift peoples spirits!!!
@ Marilyn Mitchell -- You go girl! With that spirit, you'll live as long as I have. (81 and counting). And judging by so many of the comments that appear on so many of the videos on RUclips these days, you will. The public has caught onto those who are causing all the problems. Your comment about God, etc...is Priceless! And we know what you mean! God bless!
God bless you too, Ms. Marilyn. You are an angel indeed! :-)
Marilyn Michell, I am so happy for you because most people don't realize that there is a God who determines one's destiny because He is the one who created you . I have a friend who was in the hospital for over six months , doctor gave her six months to live ,and it's almost twelve years now and she is alive and going strong , the church brethren prayed for her , even the doctors were amazed how they could pray and she was better. God is good and give Him thanks everyday for even the smallest thing.,even for the fresh air we breathe ,the water ,food your family. You may not see Him but you know He exist and He loves every one and if we pray and ask Him to forgive you of any sin that you are not aware of and you accept Him as your saviour he will forgive you
@ @@dellt3122-- Wonderful! Clearly the God who created the laws of physics and the Universe is still working on the gift of free will; especially but not solely for the good intent demonstrated in these stories, when a large number of people concentrated their God given energies on making their friend well again. Now IF ONLY more People would understand how the Universe of matter we call solid works (I realize the reality of reality is an issue that is very difficult to comprehend but , my wish is that more of us do come to understand it. It does seem (thank God!) that more of the Human Family is beginning to wake up to the reality of what reality is in all its manifestations because I believe that there are more decent Human Beings on Planet Earth so it should not be impossible to overcome with our combined energy , those few who prefer to create evil outcomes in order to control us all. There is a book titled "Everything you Need to Know...but Were Never Told" by David Icke that I purchased only yesterday because I was hearing so much about it. I have been a prolific reader of physics books most of my life. I never understood what drove me to read such books. At first I could not understand a word written. But gradually, after gaining the perspective of many Physicists who were trying to tell us how the Universe works really, more of the words coalesced into meaning I could wrap my head around. Well, this book by David Icke managed to help me to put some of the stray dots together. I had still had not figured out where to put some of them. There are still a lot more to connect and I look forward to the challenge. I have not experienced many boring moments but this book insures that I will experience even fewer of them. It is not the end, as David Icke says himself, in the book, but a beginning. There seems to be no way that God's intellectual brilliance can be replicated in any of us Humans and for this we must forever be humbly grateful. It keeps us striving to reach for a better understanding of the reality that exists on Planet Earth at this time that is no time and place that is no place other than part of God's Universe with its endlessly fair laws of physics; which are immutable, by the way. And they are God. Thank you for sharing the story of your friend.
it’s amazing how hard these things are to track down. you gotta hand to these researchers! ✨🌷
Amazing video!
Thank you!
Seeing these shows with a different eye since the Covid
You mean the pandemic that didn't happen?
But, when posted the covid was already here.
@@mollyhorse Wow, some are still at that level? It's like being a flat earther. Or a flatist.
Ikr
@@jojolafrite90 its a total fraud, they just relabled the flu and cold
A colleague of mine died from legionnaires as he was staying at an old hotel in italy lake garda and the ai conditioning unit was faulty!
Well done to all the professionals for the dedication in both tracking down the source and the nursing of the victims.
I remember seeing this on the news, and we were terrified despite the fact that we lived in a different state. I knew how quickly it could spread and how deadly it could be. I was around 5-6 years old at the time. There were a few people in that same winter in our city that had pneumonia, and it legit SCARED people. THANKFULLY none of them tested positive for it, but still it scared a LOT of us. My father was so concerned that he even kept me home from school even though children don't normally get this disease as he said himself I was his only child and he was not going to take any chances. He'd rather get arrested for my not being at school than put my health at risk. we found out later that many parents had done the same thing because they were unwilling to put their kids at risk.
I wish I knew about this episode when I was working as a MA instructor. MAs are usually a focal point in a physicians office and I wanted to teach them to follow their guts if needed to. When I worked as a MA I was in a urgent care/trauma facility. Sometimes it took my gut to know how to help the doctor treat a patient
What is an MA ?
@@Gingercat224 oh I’m sorry I didn’t explain properly. A MA is a medical assistant. The degree earned is an Associate’s in Science. There is a national test for certification or registration (CMA/RMA). Depending on state law, we can do just about everything a LPN can do!
Swimming pools and hot tubs are nasty, I never use either one.
people do not always clean the pools or the filters, and secondly, some people do not bathe themselves before using them.
I lrarned a long time aho to never hold myself as being "smarter than others" just because i don't/won't do something...!🙄🤷♀️😱
@@valriasmall2044 💕
I was thinking car wash.
I don't swim in a public swimming pool, as you said ...it is nasty..... very very nasty... but private, because I know the people who use the pool.
I was in NC at the time near the Blue Ridge. Never heard about this. I need to listen to more health news.
It speaks volumes of our society’s current psyche when my immediate reaction to every case in this show was “OMG ITS COVID”.
Stay safe everyone.
I really want to know how the bacteria was able to form. Is it something that just naturally happens with lack of cleaning or was there some serious incompetence
I'll be darned. I used to work in surgery at Montgomery regional hospital. I lived in Christiansburg, too. Small world.
@46:55 The doc said, it was commendable that all health agencies collaborated and worked to find the source of the outbreak to contain it and MoFu China did the exact opposite.
Pathetic comment. We know how well US collaborated.
@@milinlim5211 yeah look who has the worst amount of cases (the US that’s who)
Really? At 1 million deaths US outranks all other countries in the WORLD due to the pathetic reactions of government leadership and irresponsible decision making. Not adhering to the advice of the CDC was just making my mind explode like a volcano during the worst parts.
I remember when I had pneumonia in 2004 that I couldn't stand the smell of food. I would gave my friend close the door so I didn't have to smell it.
I had pneumonia in 1998. It was years before I could stand the smell of onions, specifically.
I got it every year.
I was high risk, I distinctly remember losing 20+ pound's and my heart was being affected... I collapsed on a local street and landed in the hospital.
I nearly died because of it.
I lost weight because I couldn't handle eating, then I stopped drinking
and just deteriorated fast. A few on my wing died elderly and a kid.
I got pneumonia in the 80s and I could not stand, PERIOD. Went to Dr. and sent home with meds and quickly could not stand. It was 2 weeks before I could stand at all. I had to crawl to go to the bathroom and had to drag myself over the tub edge and go in the tub laying down, because I could not stand up to get onto the toilet. I had to sleep on the couch so I could just roll off of it and crawl to the restroom. When your lungs are attacked it is surprising what all is affected. That was really scary. I don't get sick very often and that was bad.
Feel for all the Professional front line heros who don't get stay at home orders that some people are complaining about during COVID. Instead many must stay working and fight the risks and many fight he disease for us daily to keep our Country running. Thanks to the government who got money out to people in so many ways in America. China people say no money was gotten to them, and allude that intended relief monies were fraudulently taken by officials. Scary and very unrestful there. So proud of the efforts to work together to keep us strong. Very oddly, our neighbor offered to help us if we needed money. I knew they had felt the relief our country provided when that happened, and then were worried if we were OK. Blessings!
Geez...I'm 62 & I feel much older now watching this.🐴
Can't get use to being an elder.🐴
I had necrotizing pneumonia that ate a fistula in my right lung and a channel to my pleural cavity which both filled with fluid. (Parapneumonic effusion) I then ruptured internally and required 6 transfusions. I almost didnt make it. Very scary. If u ever have chest pain and cough up blood dont ever let them send you home on antibiotics!
Wow. You were very sick indeed. Glad you’re well enough now to share your story. Stay well and safe, kind internet stranger.
Thanks again your show's, I have learned lot's of information...
One more channel added to my favorite viewing list, I enjoy all the information, two thumbs up.
A grateful cheers to all involved, especially our CDC who truly try their human best on not just America's behalf but the entire globe. Covid is a harsh example that despite tribal differences, like it or not, we are all in this journey together. 🥂🍾
A special thanks to the employee who purchased the hot tub and let it sit and sit and sit dismantled. 🥂🍾
His procrastination certainly saved lives so *BRAVO* Mr. Lazy! 🤗😄
In 2015 myself and ten others developed a rare form of pneumonia I was in a coma for two weeks and kept in an ice room while antibiotics forgiven. they had to keep my body temperature down so the infection wouldn't spread all they administered the antibiotics. It almost killed me.
See here man I on w what you've been through.
I'm glad you are still with us.
@@samanthasimental3788 I really appreciate that I'm glad too Lol
Thank God you survived! How scary!!
@@monkeynumbernine I can tell you that when I was in the coma I heard everything going on. I heard what was being said some of the time but I couldn't speak. I kept trying to move but I never got anywhere Lol.
I saw this episode on Discovery Science when i was 10 yrs old . I also saw the other episodes , like the Shigellosis outbreak in Mineapolis , 1998 , or dengue fever in Hawaii , 2001-2002
Whenever they reenact an incident medical wise there is usually over dramatization of the incident. I have seen this in many shows that is found on the channel TLC. But these do provide quite a bit of information about what happened and how it was handled. Its better to look at how the indent was handled than criticising the acting skills of the people.
i cant deal with these programs anymore, i know its made worse coz theres no ads but as there is no story here it just repeats itself. starts off... theres been an outbreak & doc are confused(ad break slot) theres been an outbreak & doc are confused, they try something(ad break slot) theres been an outbreak & doc are confused, they are trying something else(ad break slot) theres been an outbreak & doc think they know(ad break slot) theres been an outbreak & doc are confused again(ad break slot) there was no outbreak only 7 people got ill & there wer no new cases after the 1st week. they would of been better off telling the origanal ligenares outbreak
Sapphira's mama...I just can't stand the ridiculous overly dramatic background music. It is so annoying.
Wow and thank you for uploading, I'm a Dr. Robin Cook book and movie addict. I can relate to the pneumonia story w/flu...in hospital for a week in November 2019.
Coma is still one of my fav movies.
Dr. Cook is a WONDERFUL author! Glad to find another fan!!!
1996
I loooooove Robin Cook!!!
Good job!
Great work
My grandfather died of legionnaires disease from an outbreak that was caused by the air conditioning of a shopping centre in 1987 :( .
It's very scary to think the places that you go to may very well have bacteria hiding in their possibly non-routinely cleaned air conditioners or other. We can't see what we are breathing in, that is scary.
Great for terrorists... very scary.
I was admitted to the hospital in October 2019 for same symptoms for several days. They all wore gowns, masks and gloves in my room. I don't see that here.
Only on TV.
@@notamouse5630 ?
@@cindylaug4801 Only on TV are people stupid enough not to.
32:43 i’m not buying those tomatoes after that guy is rubbing a Q-tip on it😳
I peel my tomatoes like a apple, cause you never know who touched them
It’s very important that we the public are up to date in educated facts, it will be helpful for the people in the further,
An elderly man at 60!!!, this must be a very old video as being in your 60s is not considered old now.
They said this happened in 1996. Most people were still working in their 60s, and unless disabled did not yet qualify for Social Security or most private pensions. There were 70, 80, and 90 year olds. 60, then like now, would boarder on "elderly", but on the low end of it.
Note that for the past few years, life expectancy in the US has been declining slightly.
@@rudra62 In medical terms 60+ is 'old' ot 'geriatric' your Dr should be treating you slightly differently as your physiology changes. It's the opposite of treating children differently. People at different life stages have different medical needs.
@@sashh2263 According to the NIH, "geriatric" starts at age 65, but that's not a hard rule. And, yes, elder people have different medical needs than younger ones - they metabolize food and medications more slowly, tend to be less active, and often have different life concerns. I would probably not call a 60 y/o "old".
@@sashh2263 Moreover, the age of "geriatrics" has not changed since 1996! There were plenty of 80-90 year olds then, most 60 year olds were still working.
Should ask about food habits
If this happen today, "fever, shortness of breath, nausea, abdominal pain, neumonea," everybody will say you are #COVID positive ...
What's your point- they are both deadly....
Is it odd that the Symptoms are the same should open your eyes to what they're doing to us
@@beverlymartin1414 my point is, people should be taking care of themselves, instead of relaying on what the government can do for them, right?
amazingly corona has been around before covid 19. I was tested in december of 2019 for 5 or 6 different corona strands . In the end it turned out I had bad lactic acidosis that hurt my liver and my air way to give me issues. It turns out it was my metformin as it can happen to some to have their lactic acids raise enough to cause lactic acidosis. Which could of also cause kidney disease too.
@@beverlymartin1414 if u test positive for covid19 the hospitals get more $$$
I had necrotizing pneumonia in the top 2 lobes of my right lung. They gave me rifampin and azythromyacin. I had a severe interaction with Rifampin and my Methadone maintenance as well as one of my HIV meds.
It wasn't long til I was back in the hospital, this time for 7 weeks. My temperature spiked to 104.7*F
I bled out and 3 litres of blood gushed through my chest tube and I had to have 8 blood transfusions and that saved me life. Closest I've ever come to death it was scary actually.
Wow, that's scary!
That's scary! I hope your health is much better now.
Oh my gosh that’s terrifying!!!
Thank you for this video. I learnt something very good. I will check my hot tub. I have not used it yet.
In 2018 I had pneumonia so bad in my right lung they had to surgically intervene and insert a tube into my lung to drain it. I would have died had i not went to the ER when i had. I was in the hospital for 23 days. The weird part is that I had no fever at all, I had a cough and some wheezing(but I was a smoker and thought I was just getting bronchitis again I have since quit) the only symptom that made me go was when I tried to lift my arm, I had pain in my chest. Moral of the story: go to the hospital! Also don’t smoke 😅
Wait so it's called Legionaries disease because the first outbreak was identified in the Legion.
You learn something new every day.
I've lived in Roanoke my whole life (minus Air Force time). I had totally forgotten about this but I remember when it happened. The "home improvement center" was a Lowe's. Very scary.
"DECIMATES." not "desimates." Basically means to "divide into 10 pieces."
My then 11 year old son achieved his brown belt in his martial arts (brown is 1 belt before black) when he had pneumonia, not double pneumonia mind, but he still passed his belt, my poor lil boy..
First thing thought was some water source.
That hot tub suddenly became worth a lot more; it's a piece of history.
Great program the producer is Naughton and his series A Haunting is award winning the narrator on A Haunting is awesome thanks for a great series
Some people are so concerned about being called old at the age of 60. 🤨
People, watch the whole video. The video says it was a legionnairs came from air conditioning systems and hot tubs and this happened in October 1996 . And legionnairs not contagious.
I can remember an outbreak in the UK years ago from a hospital aircon system or heating system
I remember this outbreak very clearly.
Good job from the doctors and nurses. I am still traumatized from Covid. As this shows, finding the source is the key to stopping illnesses like these.
Me, too.
I’m much better a year and a half later, but my doc told me I need to be very careful not to catch “colds.”
Before Covid, I had really minimal asthma-now I need to take twice daily medication for it and use my “rescue” inhaler before I play in a flute rehearsal or go on a walk.
I need to be cautious, too, because colds turn into bronchitis for me -
Stay well.❤
The Doctor was speaking about a disease, that affects the lungs, with an upside down chest xray hanging up behind him. Attention to detail was certainly missed with that one.
Marie C lol I missed that
Please tell me he was an actor and not a real doctor
Must have been an Xray of batman...
This disease similar to coronavirus
Dave Dangerous I laughed too hard at this because I got the reference haha.
I remember when this happened. I hope we have learned our lessons.
I love dis show god bless you all 😇
Changed my mind about going to the hot tub today! Glad the employee didn’t start using the tub. Hope the store paid the medical bills for all affected
How can anyone take it serious when there is so much overly dramatic and loud, distracting background music. The message is lost in the noise.
Gód bless those responders and Drs ,lab workers
This is the first time I see a cardioversion with the patient fully gowned!
Protecting the patient's privacy at all costs. 🙄🔥🔥🔥🔥
They think it’s a out break, but even than I don’t see anyone wearing a mask or gloves.WHY.
Now we are dealing with the Coronavirus.
I was looking for that comment!
Jan could Be corona virus cover up
Legionnaires' disease can't be spread person to person. It's airborne only. We can point at many diseases that are comparable to COVID-19 but it's the minor details that separate them from one another.
Tanya Mcghee. The cultures can name the specific pathogen. There was a big outbreak at one time that originated from a hot tub that was on display at a Home Depot. It had not had bleach added to the water because it was just a display.
Covid is a brutal virus that took me weeks to recover without medical care. If I had gone to hospital I would be dead now. When I began coughing up blood and very hard o breath I said my prayers ready to die. Hospitals have killed more people by putting them on ventilators forcing AI into damage lungs than any other cause. I’m 64 smoke 3 pks a day and have health issues yet I survived? People have been made to panic and the corruption with testing is widespread. Take the stupid masks off before you damage your immune system. Please?
excellent video
Dang! That was scary!
LOVE this program! BTW: The correct spelling is deCimate, rather than deSimate.😏
we had an outbreak of this a few years ago, it was caused by Safeway's produce misters.
Yes! Now I really hate not having my own garden anymore!!!
Big thanks to Dr Jodi
My neighbor actually somehow got Legionnaires about 7 years ago. Still not sure how he got it, the health department tested their house and everything. It was BAD too, he almost passed away and has very significant lasting problems from it
You can tell how many years ago this was produced in that they think 60s is “elderly.” No modern program would say that until someone was pushing 80. Interesting how life expectancies have increased and with them our expectations of how full of a life we’ll have at various ages.
Nerys Ghemor Yeah, if 60 is elderly now. I hate to watch the millennials age. They’ll be old at 40. Hopefully they’ll retire their “music” too!
Considering the relatively low and falling life expectancy in the US, yeah 60 is a little young to call "elderly" but it's not far off. If you're poor/homeless, typically you don't live to that age.
Becky Weaver God, I cannot stand modern pop music. My Baby Boomer parents listen to it. I have no idea how they tolerate that shit. And the ironic part is they introduced me to the good stuff from the 70s.
Nerys Ghemor Oh wow I’m LMAO! Here’s the weird thing tho - I really do love Billie Eilish. Her tunes are very catchy and I like it that she doesn’t do anything she doesn’t want to do and produces her own mood music right at home in her bedroom whenever she feels like it.
And she doesn’t copy everybody else’s singing style by screaming and yelling. I actually like her whispering voice.
And how she produces her own music. On her own terms. not when or how some record company tells her to do it.
But all the rest of these people have been kidding themselves if they really believe that their noise (that’s what I call it) is really “music!”
You are right though. the old music is the good stuff. (Ha ha what is wrong with your Boomer parents?!)
Becky Weaver Thankfully on my last trip to visit my parents the car was in the shop and that meant no Sirius XM. So they found a local classic rock station instead. So much more pleasant this time! And even better that they had to listen to terrestrial radio. Satellite radio has so much god awful compression it sounds like it’s coming out of a mailbox. Yes, Dad, I know your first radio was a transistor radio with ONE earbud (no stereo sound yet!) but that does not excuse going back to that quality!! XD
Holy chit, I'm so proud of myself! I called legionnaires disease [n the first 5 minutes. 😁
My grandmother died from that.. one of the few if I remember correctly because it's rare apparently.. you prob know more then me anyways :)
I had Pneumonia earlier this year. its the worst I've been sick in a long time. My O2 levels dropped to like 93%
Where were patients spending time? Seems like the first thing to find out.
I remember seen a documentary like this but in a hotel. A lot of people died because there was a molt in the ventilator system and it traveled thru the air, very sad to see. You don't see it 😢
That was the legionaire outbreak named such because it was at the Legionaire convention where the people started dropping like flies with a rapid pneumonia that killed within 24 hrs. Finally traced to the mould in the aircon of the hotel.
This sounds like that as well.
@@nonacee5065 that's the one I meant. Sorry for me bad English . It's just horrified
@@LiveCamsAllOverTheWorld I knew that was the one you were referring to. There's also an account of Legionaire's from potting mix used in gardening.
Oh there you go the show just mentioned it 14 min mark.
@@nonacee5065 thanks, I didn't noticed that when I saw the video. I sometimes skip parts because it's so long
These programmes are interesting, I am sick of murder and mayhem caused by rogue humans.
I agree. Those programs make people paranoid, and glorify violence. I prefer shows about non-violent topics.
33:40 yeah that’s the thing to do put it on the radio about a death caused by legionnaires disease that’ll really get them panicking
It makes one realize how vulnerable we are
After finding the cause, they never mentioned the course of treatment to kill this disease ! What did they do with the hot tub ? Did the health officials take it ? And what kind of specialized treatment did they give the patients that were already infected ? This is not one of those epidemics you say, make sure you wash yer hands and you’ll be ok like they say with the flu !!
All you need to do with the hot tub is put run it with some disinfectants. Sometimes you can have legionella in the hot water when the temperature is too low. All you do is raise the temperature to what it should have been and let it run for a while.
Penicillin does not work on legionella, but other types of antibiotics do. In severe cases the patient is connected to an external lung machine.
Washing your hands won't make a difference. Legionella infects through aerosols inhaled. It loves still, hot water. A typical place for infection is in your shower. This only happens if the system temperature is too low.
Morten Kristiansen thank you, what would be the ideal system temperature setting pls?
@@rumplestilskinsmum5094 According to Danish building code the temperature in the boiler should be minimum 55°C and at the tap 50°C to keep legionelle in check.
Edit: Naturally that would be way too hot for the hot tub. There you need to rely on regular disinfection and maintenance.
Home improvement: improve your home by getting out of it and staying at the hospital! : D
This is why we clean the overflow pipe in the kitchen, the shower head and shower pipe and never use a hot tub!
I don't get it, have they tested the potting mix
I always wondered about produce misters... On one hand, cold water does help maintain the freshness of vegetables - (to an extent) but on the other, moisture contributes to mold. I bought some fresh blueberries the other day, they looked and smelled fine - no discoloration or white fuzz... I put them in my cereal and only took a bite but there was a foul, musty taste... I was sick for 2 days, but fortunately, got over it. Things like this just goes to show that even in today's world, with advanced medicine and hygiene, there are still outbreaks of infectious diseases and we must be vigilant.
You'll be fine. I ate the white fuzz a few times. Next time wash them off good. If you cook it with sugar that heat will boil it off. Also any fruit like a banana just cut the brown spot off I worked on a farm before we don't sell the spoiled ones we make wine with them.
As a microbiologist that works in the lab.....the fact that they were handling those samples without at least level 2 lab PPE (masks and an HVAC hood) made me very nervous lol. I hate it when I focus on stuff like that....super interesting documentary, though!
It's a MOVIE .... hellllloooo??? You are a microbiologist and you think THIS is real life???
@@TerryReedMiss ....my point was that it isn't RL...I was just commenting on the fact that it is absurd that they showed them handling things in a way that we wouldn't. But thank you for that insight, KAREN.
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Great answer, when they do these shows they have medical advisors , but sometimes the producers want to cut costs and they figure most people will not know what is what.
@@esmeraldagreen1992 I thought it would be a common sense for actors to use some kind of protective equipment.
This is a really old show and why waste valuable PPE on reenactments?
What kind of a coolant system is that with the water pouring behind those metal fins? Some kind of evaporative cooler? I thought Virginia had too humid of a climate during the warm parts of the year for that.
Mysterious outbreaks can happen to anybody at any time. Audience wishes hapless victims & grieving survivors all the best. Cheers!
Jesus christ, this thing could have been ten minutes long if they'd removed all the recaps and repeating the same obvious information told five different ways, then getting two people to give statements reiterating the same god damn information we were just repeatedly told.
NoJusticeNoPeace LOL.
Why would you watch something that irritates you, turn it off, or look at something else! My goodness, I’m really worried about you!
Vile Atheism, this thing....
The video shows medical personnel handling patients without wearing gloves or mask. Universal precautions are always needed when an unidentified but potentially contagious illness is present. The patients were coughing all over everything, and workers were up close and personal with no mask in sight, and often no gloves either.
Or, personnel getting samples from suspected sources of the legionella bacteria without masks, protective clothing (water or mist can splash) and often without gloves.
Not wearing gloves all the time was quite normal back then. When I worked in a nursing home back in the late 70’s and early 80’s, we never wore gloves then unless a resident had a contagious infection.
Hopefully they will learn quickly before they need to deal with the Corona virus coming everyone's way in the next 3 or 4 weeks.
this video was probably just a reenactment of what actually happened. That might be why there were not many gloves or masks present.
Kris Dunwoody as you can see, THAT didn’t happen.
To think that Covid-19 is deadlier than Legionnaire's is incredible, more so since there hasn't been a coordinated response in the US.
This also happened at the pool at the Playboy estate.
Yet you never really hear about it.
The playboy estate!! I wouldn't put my dogs lil toe in that pool.
@@sassyblue7086 same here although I’m sure that is not the only virus that is in there