Thanks Lee, always enjoy your informative and well explained videos. Just to add a bit more to your comments, I've found these packs do get noticeably warmer during discharge than LiPo's even at 2C. Also, while they are 4S they don't quite hold their voltage as high during their discharge as LiPo's do, so should almost be looked at as a 3.5S pack and one's overall power will be down a bit. Cheers, Graham
I've never considered Li-ion as I've used LiPo's as the "normal" kind of battery, but your video has demonstrated a very useful alternative. Thanks for that!
So you can buy em, or make your own! YEEE! Pretty nice way to recycle old laptop/power tool batteries too. But of course you can buy the cells seperately.
THANKS ... Great advice ! Maybe the landscape has changed, but it's rare to see li-on packs for flight (3DXR Have zero). I'm embarking on making my own 6s packs for my EDF jet. The Molicel P50B 21700 cell seems to 'kick ass' compared to Lipos with double the flight times for similar cost & weight. They're 5000mAh & 50amp continuous current draw. Good for 500+ cycles. Just Don't understand why Lipos remain ubiquitous ? Maybe I'm missing something ? Newbie Phil ... 🇬🇧
I have a 4S9p 31,000 mah li ion pack in my plane and at 9 amps cruise speed it stays up for 3+ hours . 13x8.5 prop and a emax GT2826-6 710kv motor. the air frame is a skyhunter.
How does your charger handle the 9P? Are you only balancing the parallel cells against each other? You don't truly get a balanced pack when you do that do you? Will most chargers be ok with that? If you built your pack yourself, I would be very curious and grateful to see a wiring diagram. I am currently flying two separate 4s packs in parallel with each other and charging them separately.....
You can also salvage tons of those 18650 batteries from old notebooks. I have a box with about 50 of these batteries, just make sure you store them in fireproof or other protective box. I never had any problems with them (even with the ones I rescurected from from < 1V), but you only need one bad luck to start a fire, so treat them like that. (you should store lipo this way anyway)
Have been building my own packs with high discharge (25A continouos, 40A burst) INR Li-Ion 18650 2500mAH batteries. They do last longer (>50%) than my Li-Po batteries of similar weight. I just don't push my planes much and quite satisfied cruising around. Hopefully more.vendors would carry these.
Not to mention lion 18650 don't bloat like those lipo. Panasonic 18650 for endurance and INR's if I want higher C discharge ratings.i use HE's and INR's for my rc short course trucks for bashing and occasional indoor clay. It's not ROAR approved but soon they will.and you don't have to baby sit this like the lipos for storage.heck I have a 9 year old laptop and the 18650's In there still has good charge in it.lipo can't beat that lifespan👍
hi paint less u must mention that this batt it needed to used from 4.2 till 3.0 if not all the capasity will not been used... the the drop rate is high means from 4.2 to 3.85 is only a minute but it will maintan it till 3.0
Very useful info. Folks, lithium Ion at present still seems to have associated fire risks if not correctly managed. However there are now reports of an even safer li-ion form being developed. Given we call the others 'Lipo' batteries perhaps we should call this type 'Lion batteries' Batteries with the capacity to roar! Ok, ok, it's late at night! Bob UK.
Hmm.. Interesting. Li-ion and Li-po, what's the difference? Form factor.. Ones rolled up into a metal case Ones flat sheets wrapped in plastic. They are (well can be) the same except the casing. What you find it that the higher C on li-po is down to a tweak in chemistry but mainly it's down to how the layers are connected to the cable which was dictated in the design brief when they went to make them.. But yes in low C scenarios you'll find a better chemistry and layout match in 18650 than in li-po. Which was the gist of this video ;D
I had heard of folk using these packs, but didn't pay much heed. Thank you for explaining it so well. I blew a cell on a MultiStar 5200 4s last week with a Mini Talon and was in the process of shopping for a replacement. Now I'll have to give serious consideration to switching over to Li-ion. You mentioned that the esc would misbehave once the pack hit the LiPo low voltage level, is there a way round this to allow the full potential of the Li-ion pack?
+Quad Damage FPV check the manual for the ESC that you have in your plane, you're looking for the low voltage alarm and low voltage cut-off options and you need to set those as low as they can go. Hope that helps
did you ever connect two batteries in parallel, one Ion and one LiPo, both with the same voltage, but of course, but with different mAh. That way, the Lipo, would handle the C rate, and the Ion the endurance... I just don´t know if the Lipo, for instances, with 4000mAh, and the Ion with 7000mAh, would run out earlier, or if, connected in parallel, the sum of both, would turn into 11000mAh combine, and discharge evenly. Other solution, would have some kind of regulator, which would draw power from the Lipo, just on high discharge demands. Just occurred to me watching your video. I´ve learn a lot with your channel, and I thank you for that. All the best
well, maybe on the future, or using capacitors with Li-Ion, and that way, got the discharge problem solved. maybe it´s a silly idea, but then again, got to try it
Looking at getting the 3DXR Power series Li-ion for my large multi to replace my 8s 22,000 lipos. The power series has a 6C rating which should have a 132A constant discharge at 6c. My question, is it better to get 22,000 li-on and save that weight or get higher mAh, say 30,000, and make it the same weight as the 22,000 lipo? So which will give more flight time, same mAh lower overall weight or same overall weight but higher mAh?
More mAh = longer flights. Same mAh in a lighter battery = slightly longer flights. I'd use the same weight and get the max. mAh I can in the Li-Ion pack :D
Hi sir! First off all I want to say thank you for all the information given on your channel. Now about Li Ion capacities.. I have an RC boat for carp angling and i would like a 3S5P or even more P's as weight is irrelevant but endurance is more relevant. I see 3DX has only 1P packs. Do you have a trust worthy suplier for larger packs?
Hey - i build a 3S2P 6000mah LiIon of 18650 Sony Murata. This cell you can fly to 2.5V (and lower) but the ESC (HTIRC Hornet 40A) have throttle-cut at about 3V per cell! Any ideas how to fly until 2.5V/cell?
Great informative video. Thank you. Quick question, what is the best way to charge a lithium ion battery. I have a Cellpro 10s charger and it has an option to charge Lithium ion batteries. However, when I plugged in a 7.4v Li-ion battery and the charger was still set on Lipo function, it didn't recognise that it was a Li-ion type of battery and it started to charge it.
The voltages and chemistry is so similar that the charger won't spot it so make sure you've selected the right battery type before hitting the 'go' button. There are lots of lithium based packs now 0 LIPO, LIHV and LI-Ion so it's up to the operator to check really.. Best of luck!
Hiya, I have a 3s2p 7000mah lithium ion pack in a flying wing. I wanted to put a battery voltage buzzer warning thingy onboard, so I dont risk running out of juice and crashing. I was was thinking, what lower limit voltage would you recommend for triggering the warning buzzer? Sorry for the silly question, I'm a noob!. Great video by the way!
You need to check with the vendor of that specific ESC that you're interested in, to be honest I use standard escs and just watch for those low voltage alarms and everything seems to work fine. Best of luck
So how do these guys handle some of the bigger wing hand launches? I.e. RitewingZ3/Drak/Chimera et al need 60-80 amps for launching but can easily cruise around on 10-20amps. Seems like a great long range cruise option but can it push a 6 pound plane airborne?
I think the answer is very carefully! :D Serioualy though, models with large wing surfaces and low wing loading (and flaps) are easier to hand launch as they float at far lower speeds. A little run and good throw help too. Is this worth a video?
Hey Lee maybe you chould take a look look at Matthew Ogborne channel. He is very busy with inav on a wing and know a lot of planes. He also have lithium ion z84 wing or something like that. That plane had a flight time over 20minutes. Maybe you guys should meet, he is also placed in the UK.
Depends on how much current the motors with whatever props you're using will pull at maximum and in the hover - see the endurance builds for how I'm trying to figure all that out..
Because this is an old video. I mark all of my videos with a production date so you can see if you are looking at recent content. This hobby changes very quickly so if it is more than 6 months old, its usually ancient history.. make sure you're subscribed and have the bell notification icon selected so you'll see the videos as they are released and relevant. Happy flying!
Buying a clone always includes a bit more risk than an OEM version. See the builds series we've done in the pact few months, we've not had a problem with the boards I've used. Best of luck!
I've not had one of those but looking at the specs the battery that's supplied is a 2S 300mAh LIPO? You need to be careful if you're looking for a LIPO with more capacity as more capacity = more weight and you need to be able to mount a heavier battery nearer the centre of gravity (the place where the plane needs to balance) in order for it to fly. I'd suggest getting in touch with the vendor and seeing what they recommend. Best of luck!
+Painless360 Have they (3DXR) gone bust? Their website is down, their FaceSteal page doesn't appear to have been updated since April 2017 and the last record of them in archive.org is 8th Nov 2017...
.... I will it is 3 cell Lithium ion pk with a spot welder And you know you need like a strain relief for the wires And the pk looks really ugly it's like a triangle I like more of a flat pk..... I should have made a 4S... not happy 😢😢😢😢
Deepak Astroboy they are fine in the EU, there are limitations on the very big batteries. 3DXR are the best people to ask for the latest details. Happy flying
Thank you for finally touching on the subject of Li-Ion batteries for fixed-wing flight. Ive been following the subject for a while after first hearing about the on MyGeekShow on another youtube channel. He went on to help kick start Titan Batteries Li-Ion series which has quite a range. If you haven't yet heard of them then it might be worth checking out (there's also a Titan Li-Ion channel on here somewhere) I look forward to any future episodes dealing with both the endurance & faster discharge Li-Ion packs & setting up planes for their use. I know I'll be buying a few Li-Ion packs for my own use just as soon as I can afford to invest in them. Best of luck & thanks again :) www.gettitanpower.com/
P.S. After checking the 3DXR web site I can say that (from my perspective all the way down under in Oz) that the Titan packs seem to have a much better price advantage.... Just thought you might like to know ;)
This mgf is "sticking their necks out" here because if you dig down deep into "Tesla" and the company that makes his LiIon cells (Panasonic) - they don't approve their cells used in these applications. I know, I sound like I'm "harshing the mellow" but remember this: - there's a ton of electronics on Tesla's power paks to mitigate "stuff that happens". They can only market these cells if they have a "chip" welded to the negative end that limits current. Look on YT for this. Now, that being said.. these 18650's "kick-ass" like no other BUT when they "blow" from users running them outside their design envelope.. you can't stop the flames. Warning: - Keep all your packs in a safe steel fire-proof enclosure! I use an old gas range. I stand a better chance not burning my home to the ground like my pal in Tucson last Christmas.. Thanks for post!
Thanks Lee, always enjoy your informative and well explained videos. Just to add a bit more to your comments, I've found these packs do get noticeably warmer during discharge than LiPo's even at 2C. Also, while they are 4S they don't quite hold their voltage as high during their discharge as LiPo's do, so should almost be looked at as a 3.5S pack and one's overall power will be down a bit. Cheers, Graham
I've never considered Li-ion as I've used LiPo's as the "normal" kind of battery, but your video has demonstrated a very useful alternative. Thanks for that!
You're welcome, that was the point of the video. When I found out about all this I was surprised how I'd missed it! :D
So you can buy em, or make your own! YEEE!
Pretty nice way to recycle old laptop/power tool batteries too.
But of course you can buy the cells seperately.
I use 2 x 18650 4amp batteries in a 3D printed tray in my Taranis X7. I've only charged them once, used it loads, and still have half left.
Very nice video budd.
THANKS ... Great advice !
Maybe the landscape has changed, but it's rare to see li-on packs for flight (3DXR Have zero). I'm embarking on making my own 6s packs for my EDF jet. The Molicel P50B 21700 cell seems to 'kick ass' compared to Lipos with double the flight times for similar cost & weight. They're 5000mAh & 50amp continuous current draw. Good for 500+ cycles. Just Don't understand why Lipos remain ubiquitous ? Maybe I'm missing something ? Newbie Phil ... 🇬🇧
I have a 4S9p 31,000 mah li ion pack in my plane and at 9 amps cruise speed it stays up for 3+ hours . 13x8.5 prop and a emax GT2826-6 710kv motor. the air frame is a skyhunter.
Daniel Garrow 18 cells! And here I am pondering between 2S2P and 3S1P. How heavy is your craft? Mine is just about 200g without the pack.
Good grief!
How does your charger handle the 9P? Are you only balancing the parallel cells against each other? You don't truly get a balanced pack when you do that do you? Will most chargers be ok with that?
If you built your pack yourself, I would be very curious and grateful to see a wiring diagram. I am currently flying two separate 4s packs in parallel with each other and charging them separately.....
You can also salvage tons of those 18650 batteries from old notebooks. I have a box with about 50 of these batteries, just make sure you store them in fireproof or other protective box. I never had any problems with them (even with the ones I rescurected from from < 1V), but you only need one bad luck to start a fire, so treat them like that. (you should store lipo this way anyway)
Have been building my own packs with high discharge (25A continouos, 40A burst) INR Li-Ion 18650 2500mAH batteries. They do last longer (>50%) than my Li-Po batteries of similar weight. I just don't push my planes much and quite satisfied cruising around. Hopefully more.vendors would carry these.
+Ako'y Tamad let's hope so. I'd like more for my larger planes..
Ako'y Tamad Interesting! In what configuration?
Not to mention lion 18650 don't bloat like those lipo. Panasonic 18650 for endurance and INR's if I want higher C discharge ratings.i use HE's and INR's for my rc short course trucks for bashing and occasional indoor clay. It's not ROAR approved but soon they will.and you don't have to baby sit this like the lipos for storage.heck I have a 9 year old laptop and the 18650's In there still has good charge in it.lipo can't beat that lifespan👍
Don't most 18650s have like a 2 amp discharge max? And they may not bloat, but they explode like a shotgun shell when they fail.
My laptop im on now is 8 years old and the battery hasn't charged for about 4-5 of those years. Could they still be good?
Possibly. Crack the case open and test them with a voltmeter. Should be able to find exact instructions on one of the eBike sites on how to do this.
Nice video - thanks. Have been toying with the idea and I think this video will make me take the plunge!
Very nice info, i could make it from my used laptop battery. Thanks for sharing
Watch the max amp ratings. Even decent li-ion cells will only support around 10a continuously...
@@Painless360 so cool.. i appreciate it 👍
Thanks - these have been on my workbench for some time. Going to use them LR setup.
hi paint less u must mention that this batt it needed to used from 4.2 till 3.0 if not all the capasity will not been used... the the drop rate is high means from 4.2 to 3.85 is only a minute but it will maintan it till 3.0
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Very useful info. Folks, lithium Ion at present still seems to have associated fire risks if not correctly managed. However there are now reports of an even safer li-ion form being developed. Given we call the others 'Lipo' batteries perhaps we should call this type 'Lion batteries' Batteries with the capacity to roar! Ok, ok, it's late at night! Bob UK.
Hmm.. Interesting.
Li-ion and Li-po, what's the difference?
Form factor..
Ones rolled up into a metal case
Ones flat sheets wrapped in plastic.
They are (well can be) the same except the casing.
What you find it that the higher C on li-po is down to a tweak in chemistry but mainly it's down to how the layers are connected to the cable which was dictated in the design brief when they went to make them..
But yes in low C scenarios you'll find a better chemistry and layout match in 18650 than in li-po. Which was the gist of this video ;D
Exactly!
Just the video I wanted to see. Thank you!
I had heard of folk using these packs, but didn't pay much heed. Thank you for explaining it so well. I blew a cell on a MultiStar 5200 4s last week with a Mini Talon and was in the process of shopping for a replacement. Now I'll have to give serious consideration to switching over to Li-ion.
You mentioned that the esc would misbehave once the pack hit the LiPo low voltage level, is there a way round this to allow the full potential of the Li-ion pack?
Quad Damage FPV look on Facebook a group name x uav mini talon pilots
I'm not a Facebook user - shame :-(
+Quad Damage FPV check the manual for the ESC that you have in your plane, you're looking for the low voltage alarm and low voltage cut-off options and you need to set those as low as they can go. Hope that helps
Thx for the good info. This I have to try
Hi Lee, would you possibly know weather the 4s flat li-ion pack would fit in the zohd orbit?
did you ever connect two batteries in parallel, one Ion and one LiPo, both with the same voltage, but of course, but with different mAh. That way, the Lipo, would handle the C rate, and the Ion the endurance...
I just don´t know if the Lipo, for instances, with 4000mAh, and the Ion with 7000mAh, would run out earlier, or if, connected in parallel, the sum of both, would turn into 11000mAh combine, and discharge evenly.
Other solution, would have some kind of regulator, which would draw power from the Lipo, just on high discharge demands.
Just occurred to me watching your video.
I´ve learn a lot with your channel, and I thank you for that.
All the best
I would never recommend connecting two batteries with different chemistry like that. Happy flying!
well, maybe on the future, or using capacitors with Li-Ion, and that way, got the discharge problem solved.
maybe it´s a silly idea, but then again, got to try it
Been building these for my self for about two years and get about an hour flight time out of my X-8
Do you use 2S1P or simple 2S, or in case of 3S1P or just 3S for li ion batteries?
Looking at getting the 3DXR Power series Li-ion for my large multi to replace my 8s 22,000 lipos. The power series has a 6C rating which should have a 132A constant discharge at 6c. My question, is it better to get 22,000 li-on and save that weight or get higher mAh, say 30,000, and make it the same weight as the 22,000 lipo? So which will give more flight time, same mAh lower overall weight or same overall weight but higher mAh?
More mAh = longer flights. Same mAh in a lighter battery = slightly longer flights. I'd use the same weight and get the max. mAh I can in the Li-Ion pack :D
Hi sir! First off all I want to say thank you for all the information given on your channel. Now about Li Ion capacities.. I have an RC boat for carp angling and i would like a 3S5P or even more P's as weight is irrelevant but endurance is more relevant. I see 3DX has only 1P packs. Do you have a trust worthy suplier for larger packs?
They will make any pack you need - they’ve just made me some 3S2P packs. Just ask them.. :)
hiya lee whats the beast AA battery pack for longer life
Hey - i build a 3S2P 6000mah LiIon of 18650 Sony Murata. This cell you can fly to 2.5V (and lower) but the ESC (HTIRC Hornet 40A) have throttle-cut at about 3V per cell! Any ideas how to fly until 2.5V/cell?
The only option is to disable the LVC on the ESC. If you can...
Great informative video. Thank you. Quick question, what is the best way to charge a lithium ion battery. I have a Cellpro 10s charger and it has an option to charge Lithium ion batteries. However, when I plugged in a 7.4v Li-ion battery and the charger was still set on Lipo function, it didn't recognise that it was a Li-ion type of battery and it started to charge it.
The voltages and chemistry is so similar that the charger won't spot it so make sure you've selected the right battery type before hitting the 'go' button. There are lots of lithium based packs now 0 LIPO, LIHV and LI-Ion so it's up to the operator to check really.. Best of luck!
Painless360 Hi, thanks for the quick reply. I'll be sure to check that I have selected the correct function on the charger then :) Have a nice day.
Hiya, I have a 3s2p 7000mah lithium ion pack in a flying wing. I wanted to put a battery voltage buzzer warning thingy onboard, so I dont risk running out of juice and crashing. I was was thinking, what lower limit voltage would you recommend for triggering the warning buzzer? Sorry for the silly question, I'm a noob!. Great video by the way!
Check out the evtra LiIon conte in the big boys toys playlist.. Happy flying!
Think I found it... ruclips.net/video/cae75ddQngU/видео.html . Thanks again
What 40A ESC would you recommend for use with this battery? And how can I get it to work with a motor made for LiPoly batteries?
Any should do but watch the low voltage cutoff settings..
'Just so I understand, even if a ESC has been labelled as LiPoly compatible it still works with Li-Ion? (Same for motors)
Thanks.
You need to check with the vendor of that specific ESC that you're interested in, to be honest I use standard escs and just watch for those low voltage alarms and everything seems to work fine. Best of luck
I'll do some digging around, cheers!
So how do these guys handle some of the bigger wing hand launches? I.e. RitewingZ3/Drak/Chimera et al need 60-80 amps for launching but can easily cruise around on 10-20amps. Seems like a great long range cruise option but can it push a 6 pound plane airborne?
I think the answer is very carefully! :D Serioualy though, models with large wing surfaces and low wing loading (and flaps) are easier to hand launch as they float at far lower speeds. A little run and good throw help too. Is this worth a video?
I was just wondering if the ION packs could handle the bigger wings when launching. I'm sure a hand launching video of any type would be appreciated.
I was wondering if the low voltage will be a problem with escs cutting out early due to low voltage cut off. How can you stop this.
Change the low voltage cut-off (LVC) setting on the ESC you are using. See the manual for the specific ESC you have for how to do it. Happy flying.
is it possible to use Li-ion 7.4V 1100mah battery with 40amp ESC? does this will burn my motors and serveros and ESC?
It depends on the 'C' rating of the pack. See my RC basics video son power systems and battery/ESC/motor sizing.. Best of luck!
Could you talk about charging these batteries. It seems to me there is a lot of conflicting/confusing information about how to charge them.
.4 Charge rate to 4.20 per cell then let sit 10 min.
Confirm, Charge at .4 amp until individual cell voltage reaches 4.20 volts then let cells rest 10 minutes before use ?
Hey Lee maybe you chould take a look look at Matthew Ogborne channel. He is very busy with inav on a wing and know a lot of planes. He also have lithium ion z84 wing or something like that. That plane had a flight time over 20minutes. Maybe you guys should meet, he is also placed in the UK.
+Thumbs_Fpv thanks for the idea. Our iNav series on a wing was made a before it was trendy ;) Happy flying!
Which battery will be good for Hexacopter ( Tarot 680 frame ) with 400 kV motors...???
Depends on how much current the motors with whatever props you're using will pull at maximum and in the hover - see the endurance builds for how I'm trying to figure all that out..
so whats the difference in life cycles? lipo is what around 30 cycles?
I don't like adds but this add before your video I did like.
+Daniel Garrow as content creators, we don't get to choose the kind of ads that go on the videos that we make. Which one was this one that you liked?
Why are the links to buy the lion packs not working?
Because this is an old video. I mark all of my videos with a production date so you can see if you are looking at recent content. This hobby changes very quickly so if it is more than 6 months old, its usually ancient history.. make sure you're subscribed and have the bell notification icon selected so you'll see the videos as they are released and relevant. Happy flying!
So did they (3dxr) decide that li ions are afterall, not worth it ?
It's just hard to make any money as they take a lot of time to make the packs.. ZOHD have started selling them.. Happy flying
sir I wanna build a quad but the original SP F3 but is no more on sale then can I buy the clone from bangood is it good or any other FC
Buying a clone always includes a bit more risk than an OEM version. See the builds series we've done in the pact few months, we've not had a problem with the boards I've used. Best of luck!
HI I JUST BOT AN XKA 800 FIXED WING AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW UR RECOMMENDATION FOR A GOOD BATTERY PLS
I've not had one of those but looking at the specs the battery that's supplied is a 2S 300mAh LIPO? You need to be careful if you're looking for a LIPO with more capacity as more capacity = more weight and you need to be able to mount a heavier battery nearer the centre of gravity (the place where the plane needs to balance) in order for it to fly. I'd suggest getting in touch with the vendor and seeing what they recommend. Best of luck!
tq
Is there anywhere else to get these 3dxr no longer seems to do it
More places are starting to sell themselves now... Best of luck
1400 mAh does not give you 3- 4 flight?
Could this be suitable for a wing.
It could, check out the 'big boys toys' playlist..
What charger is it in the video around 6:08?
Thanks
Mikael
If you Google something like 'ISDT Painless360' you'll find all my videos on the ISDT chargers. That's a Q6..
Thanks
Can you use in Quadcopters thanks
Not really, it can't deliver the huge amperage you need at a weight you can fly at in a multirotor..
Painless360 Doesn't the Sony VTC6 and its 15/30A make this somewhat reconsiderable in slower copter uses such as survey/photography?
Seems like you guys no longer offer these. Is that correct?
You Guys? I don't work for 3DXR.... They have stopped selling them separately now but ZOHD do make them. See my video on it.
@@Painless360 In the video description you say "You can see the packs we have here" - I took the "we" to be literal.
Will check it out, thanks.
Hiya, great video but it seems the link does not work?
Works here... Google 3DXR if your computer isn't playing..
+Painless360
Have they (3DXR) gone bust? Their website is down, their FaceSteal page doesn't appear to have been updated since April 2017 and the last record of them in archive.org is 8th Nov 2017...
These batteries are not available on that website
See video comment
3DXR no longer carries Li-Ion batteries - am I missing something?
See video released today..
Can it be use for drone 550kn with naz a v2
Should do, it's very similar to LIPO but doesn't have the current capacity..
.... I will it is 3 cell Lithium ion pk with a spot welder And you know you need like a strain relief for the wires And the pk looks really ugly it's like a triangle I like more of a flat pk..... I should have made a 4S... not happy 😢😢😢😢
can these batteries be shipped to Mauritius?
Deepak Astroboy they are fine in the EU, there are limitations on the very big batteries. 3DXR are the best people to ask for the latest details. Happy flying
would 3.0v per cell be a good soft cutoff point per cell or would you go lower? Running a CC talon 35.
If you can get it that low. I'd look at something like that..
Fixed wing VTOL time
i used at multicopter and do 1hour 30minute fly
Wow! Cool! What pack are you using?
Diy myself.. sanyoGA 4s7p setup
What is your multirotor setup?
Thank you for finally touching on the subject of Li-Ion batteries for fixed-wing flight.
Ive been following the subject for a while after first hearing about the on MyGeekShow on another youtube channel.
He went on to help kick start Titan Batteries Li-Ion series which has quite a range.
If you haven't yet heard of them then it might be worth checking out (there's also a Titan Li-Ion channel on here somewhere)
I look forward to any future episodes dealing with both the endurance & faster discharge Li-Ion packs & setting up planes for their use.
I know I'll be buying a few Li-Ion packs for my own use just as soon as I can afford to invest in them.
Best of luck & thanks again :)
www.gettitanpower.com/
P.S. After checking the 3DXR web site I can say that (from my perspective all the way down under in Oz) that the Titan packs seem to have a much better price advantage....
Just thought you might like to know ;)
This mgf is "sticking their necks out" here because if you dig down deep into "Tesla" and the company that makes his LiIon cells (Panasonic) - they don't approve their cells used in these applications. I know, I sound like I'm "harshing the mellow" but remember this: - there's a ton of electronics on Tesla's power paks to mitigate "stuff that happens". They can only market these cells if they have a "chip" welded to the negative end that limits current. Look on YT for this. Now, that being said.. these 18650's "kick-ass" like no other BUT when they "blow" from users running them outside their design envelope.. you can't stop the flames. Warning: - Keep all your packs in a safe steel fire-proof enclosure! I use an old gas range. I stand a better chance not burning my home to the ground like my pal in Tucson last Christmas.. Thanks for post!