Could not agree more about the SL2. It is an incredible value. Not just in terms of Leica value, but in an absolute sense compared with other brands and platforms. I shoot both M and Q, and I’m a recent adopter of the SL system, having just gotten an SL2 a couple of months ago. It’s such a joy to shoot with M mount lenses that I have a hard time leaving home without it. The ergonomics, the feel in the hand, just amazing.
Congrats on the SL2. I think it’s really a camera you need to physically try before deciding if it’s for you or not. On a spec sheet, it seems just average, and for today’s standard, below average. But once you start using it, it’s such a nice camera.
@ would love to hear your thoughts on the form factor of the SL2 v SL3. I prefer the slightly more slender SL2, and don’t mind the weight. I also think it looks cleaner without the second knob. Very robust piece of metal, this camera.
@@Spearmanmark I actually like the second top dial and the controversial on/off button, but I would need to shoot with it for at least a month before I can decide if it’s something I really enjoy using, or if it was just a novelty and eventually wears off or I end up hating it
@@bigheadtaco Most definitely! I’m looking at the M 50 summilux ! Figured I have the clinical looking lenses down, I could use something with more character for events / couple portraits!
Just picked up a mint SL2 and couldn’t be happier. Swapped it out for an M10-P. Although I loved the M10 it never grabbed my heart strings as, for me, Leica M photography is all about film and I have an MP for that. Stick the Leica M adapter on the SL2 and I can do all the Leica M digital photography I want, absolutely LOVE M lenses on the SL2! Also, along with the stunning Sigma 70mm macro I now have the best 35mm scanning routine too. SL2? No brainer when it comes to peak Leica "digital" value for money as an all rounder camera. 😁👍
@bigheadtaco I am worried for you too. That's the lens I had with my SL2-S.. the best 28mm lens I've ever used. It creates this other worldly portrait photos. (My photos are mostly of my family & kids)
i love the SL2 its my workhorse for commercial shoots, usually paired with the 24-90. amazing combo, 24-90 is magical. also, great fun with m glas, as you said.
I’d add to this that the original SL is also a great buy, it has the same features as the SL2 and SL2-S at a fraction of the cost. It reminds me so much of the original Canon 5D in terms of a ground breaking camera I use SL2-S’s for work but just picked up an SL as part of a bundle to use for my personal work. When I sold off the bundled bits i ended up with the SL for $800 which is a bargain for any Leica
I'm sure the SL2 & SL2s are great cameras if my experience with my SL is anything to go by. My photographic history is probably different from most "M" system users, in so far as being a student back in the 1960's I had (& still own) a IIIf, with 35/50/90mm Elmar lenses. When I could afford to upgrade I invested in among other SLR systems, an older SL2 35mm SLR & "R" series 28mm (my favourite focal length), 50/135mm lenses. As with the IIIf, I became very attrached to this camera & system, and still currently own an R5 and the aforementioned lenses. Back to the present, I considered purchasing a used M8/9/10 cameras but rememberering previous issues with using my favourite 28mm focal length lenses with rangefinder cameras, I purchased a mint used SL, and with a simple (non helicoid adapter) I can use and enjoy using my "R" lenses again! The ease of manual focussing with the SL is amazing & results obtained by these 35+ year old lenses are as good as obtainable from any alternative modern "legacy" glass!
Thanks for sharing your story! Right now the R lenses are extremely popular with cinematographers, and prices have skyrocketed. Some R lenses are more expensive than their M mount equivalents. I have the sister system in Minolta MD mount with my XD, XD-11, and X700. Lenses aren’t as nice, but good enough for me. I do hope to get the R6.2 and a 24mm and 21mm.
I talk about it in my Q3 43 video and insert some samples here: ruclips.net/video/9Vd-BWs-ppM/видео.htmlsi=8oJte_WKknDyIYwG&t=446 at 7:26 of that video
The SL2-S is a great choice, especially if you like the look of it. Even for me I prefer the look of my 40MP M10-R vs the technically 'better' 60MP M11-P.
@@ChrisWhittenMusicSL2-S is definitely better for high ISO performance as well. I rarely go over ISO 1600 on the SL2. If I need low light, I put on a tripod and shoot ISO 400-800.
@@Dpul945yes I know many who sing praises of the SL2-S. For me as a stills photographer, I appreciate more resolution vs low light / high ISO performance.
Leica isn’t about price performance, much like how a Porsche 911 price-performance is very low compared to a Honda, or a Rolex compared to a Seiko. But that’s not why people buy a Leica, Porsche, or a Rolex, at least that shouldn’t be the main reason. Price-performance is for gadgets and devices.
@@bigheadtaco You will find out and know eventually.Before that, prepared to be dissatisfied no matter how hard to try to convince yourself. Buy used ones if you want to explorer Leica, curiosity kills photographers.
@@markshwang6967 I’ve been taking photos for over 30 years, and I’ve owned Leicas for over a decade. I’ve also owned Fujifilm, Minolta’s, Ricoh’s, and other cameras over 30 years. I’m very experienced in using camera gear, and I think there’s value in every camera brand. Each offers something unique to their users, including Leica.
I just bought a SL2s. It's amazing, what I now can get out of all my Leica M and R lenses, including the fantastic Angenieux 2.8/45-90 zoom.
Could not agree more about the SL2. It is an incredible value. Not just in terms of Leica value, but in an absolute sense compared with other brands and platforms. I shoot both M and Q, and I’m a recent adopter of the SL system, having just gotten an SL2 a couple of months ago. It’s such a joy to shoot with M mount lenses that I have a hard time leaving home without it. The ergonomics, the feel in the hand, just amazing.
Congrats on the SL2. I think it’s really a camera you need to physically try before deciding if it’s for you or not. On a spec sheet, it seems just average, and for today’s standard, below average. But once you start using it, it’s such a nice camera.
@ would love to hear your thoughts on the form factor of the SL2 v SL3. I prefer the slightly more slender SL2, and don’t mind the weight. I also think it looks cleaner without the second knob. Very robust piece of metal, this camera.
@@Spearmanmark I actually like the second top dial and the controversial on/off button, but I would need to shoot with it for at least a month before I can decide if it’s something I really enjoy using, or if it was just a novelty and eventually wears off or I end up hating it
Love my SL2 and SL2 s. I pair them with my 24-90 and 90-280.. heavy set up but now I’m working on adding some m lenses to my kit! Great video!
Since you have f/2.8 all the way through, maybe an f/1.4 lens for a visual contrast to your fast zooms?
@@bigheadtaco Most definitely! I’m looking at the M 50 summilux ! Figured I have the clinical looking lenses down, I could use something with more character for events / couple portraits!
@ I was going to say either the 50mm or 75mm Summilux would be great. Those lenses really pop and much easier to focus on the SL.
@ Thank you for the advice!! Definitely going to check it out! The 75 looks so good! Have you had a chance to use any of the voigtlander options?
Love all of the content you’ve been pushing out lately!
Thanks for watching!!
Just picked up a mint SL2 and couldn’t be happier. Swapped it out for an M10-P. Although I loved the M10 it never grabbed my heart strings as, for me, Leica M photography is all about film and I have an MP for that. Stick the Leica M adapter on the SL2 and I can do all the Leica M digital photography I want, absolutely LOVE M lenses on the SL2! Also, along with the stunning Sigma 70mm macro I now have the best 35mm scanning routine too.
SL2? No brainer when it comes to peak Leica "digital" value for money as an all rounder camera. 😁👍
100% agree. I love my M bodies and lenses, but I get a different vibe when I use the lenses on the SL2, especially with a helicoid adapter.
Love my SL2, looking to pick up the LLL adapter. Great video.
Thanks! The LLL adapter is a fantastic addition to your SL system!
SL Apo lenses are true gem of Leica lenses I think. Produce such an amazing images 😮
I want to test the 28mm APO but I’m scared that I’ll love it and need to buy it 😅😅😅
@bigheadtaco I am worried for you too. That's the lens I had with my SL2-S.. the best 28mm lens I've ever used. It creates this other worldly portrait photos. (My photos are mostly of my family & kids)
@@Soojimmy oh no, it's that good? ugh.....maybe I'll just borrow it for a week....
i love the SL2 its my workhorse for commercial shoots, usually paired with the 24-90. amazing combo, 24-90 is magical. also, great fun with m glas, as you said.
Couldn't agree more!
I’d add to this that the original SL is also a great buy, it has the same features as the SL2 and SL2-S at a fraction of the cost. It reminds me so much of the original Canon 5D in terms of a ground breaking camera
I use SL2-S’s for work but just picked up an SL as part of a bundle to use for my personal work. When I sold off the bundled bits i ended up with the SL for $800 which is a bargain for any Leica
Agreed. I want the original SL as well. I want all of them :-)
I'm sure the SL2 & SL2s are great cameras if my experience with my SL is anything to go by.
My photographic history is probably different from most "M" system users, in so far as being a student back in the 1960's I had (& still own) a IIIf, with 35/50/90mm Elmar lenses. When I could afford to upgrade I invested in among other SLR systems, an older SL2 35mm SLR & "R" series 28mm (my favourite focal length), 50/135mm lenses.
As with the IIIf, I became very attrached to this camera & system, and still currently own an R5 and the aforementioned lenses.
Back to the present, I considered purchasing a used M8/9/10 cameras but rememberering previous issues with using my favourite 28mm focal length lenses with rangefinder cameras, I purchased a mint used SL, and with a simple (non helicoid adapter) I can use and enjoy using my "R" lenses again! The ease of manual focussing with the SL is amazing & results obtained by these 35+ year old lenses are as good as obtainable from any alternative modern "legacy" glass!
Thanks for sharing your story! Right now the R lenses are extremely popular with cinematographers, and prices have skyrocketed. Some R lenses are more expensive than their M mount equivalents. I have the sister system in Minolta MD mount with my XD, XD-11, and X700. Lenses aren’t as nice, but good enough for me. I do hope to get the R6.2 and a 24mm and 21mm.
Do you find that the viewfinder lags when your m mount lenses have a stopped down aperture?
Depending on the light level, but for sure, there’s a bit of lag. You can adjust the settings though. I reduce to lower fps which helps.
Awesome video. Do you have link to your video comparing the two 35 apo lenses
I talk about it in my Q3 43 video and insert some samples here: ruclips.net/video/9Vd-BWs-ppM/видео.htmlsi=8oJte_WKknDyIYwG&t=446 at 7:26 of that video
I agree but personally went sl2-s for the high iso and the 24mp matches my M7 film scans in resolution so my pics are pretty similar in size.
The SL2-S is a great choice, especially if you like the look of it. Even for me I prefer the look of my 40MP M10-R vs the technically 'better' 60MP M11-P.
Have you used the SL-3? Any thoughts?/reviews? Compared to SL2..
Yes I was in Germany for the launch. Its great. Here’s my comparison video: ruclips.net/video/9nsAHJ6-Ly0/видео.htmlsi=ChjsofZHv0lxDBLc
Interesting. SL2 and not SL2-S?
Because I’m primarily a stills photographer, the SL2 makes more sense. If you’re more of a hybrid shooter, then the SL2-S makes sense.
@@bigheadtaco OK, I mostly shoot stills, but often at 1600 and 3200, and I read the SL2-S was better in low light.
SL2-S is much better in low light than the SL2 , lower MP Of the SL2-S helps alot
@@ChrisWhittenMusicSL2-S is definitely better for high ISO performance as well. I rarely go over ISO 1600 on the SL2. If I need low light, I put on a tripod and shoot ISO 400-800.
@@Dpul945yes I know many who sing praises of the SL2-S. For me as a stills photographer, I appreciate more resolution vs low light / high ISO performance.
Thoughts on using the SL2 with a 24-90 for shooting kids soccer? Would it be too slow?
Depends on your skill level, but I would say for modern standards, it’s not up to speed.
There is no 45 elmarit for the sl2 or full frame
Todd Hido is talking about the medium format Leica S system
My advice, don't fall for the trap. Leica is the worst price/performance, people don't know much.
Leica isn’t about price performance, much like how a Porsche 911 price-performance is very low compared to a Honda, or a Rolex compared to a Seiko. But that’s not why people buy a Leica, Porsche, or a Rolex, at least that shouldn’t be the main reason. Price-performance is for gadgets and devices.
@@bigheadtaco You will find out and know eventually.Before that, prepared to be dissatisfied no matter how hard to try to convince yourself. Buy used ones if you want to explorer Leica, curiosity kills photographers.
@@markshwang6967 I’ve been taking photos for over 30 years, and I’ve owned Leicas for over a decade. I’ve also owned Fujifilm, Minolta’s, Ricoh’s, and other cameras over 30 years. I’m very experienced in using camera gear, and I think there’s value in every camera brand. Each offers something unique to their users, including Leica.
@@markshwang6967dude has been using Leica for decades. You must be new to the Chanel or don’t know what you are talking about