S2: how are you 23 and see no issue barging in to people’s bedroom, especially at night? Grow up OP. You need to knock and respect people’s boundaries.
@@paulinadeboer3604 I'd bet you're right. OP couldn't possibly allow them to have intimite time, so she just *had* to make sure that it came to an abrupt--and awkward--halt. It's highly unlikely that OP couldn't hear any sounds of voices or movement before walking into the room. Plus, she made sure stay in the room until the moment had passed, instead of apologizing and immediately backing out. First, she stood there staring for long enough that big sis' yelled at her to get out, then, by grabbing the hair dryer. Isn't it funny how she so desperately needed the hair dryer that *very instant,* but was hanging out in the kitchen five minutes later, instead of immediately using said hair dryer? We're going to be getting a future post from OP's sister, saying that she had to kick her little sister out. It'll either be because her husband finally admitted that he's been uncomfortable with little sis' perving on him, or older sis' will be distraught to find out her sister and her husband have been having an affair. Hopefully she cuts off those futures by kicking little sis' out right now. Otherwise, this behavior will only keep escalating.
@@heatherduke5410 my oldest is 26 and youngest is 10, we have 5 children in total, all know and we’re told from very early on that you always knock before entering anyone’s room. I do the same and always knock before entering their room as well. When they’re little I let them know all ages deserve privacy. When asked later we talk about how it can be traumatic for all parties if you walk in on any intimate situation. That talk usually happens when they start having questions like “where do babies come from/how are babies made” or anything to do with sex. I don’t believe in lying to children about things like that. If they’re old enough to have the interest to ask they’re old enough to get a correct answer. If you don’t tell them then they will find out from someone else and either get told wrong info or not trust you because you lied. Sex isn’t anything to be ashamed about, nor is self pleasure. Back to topic, both can be made uncomfortable if they unceremoniously interrupted! If the older sister knows this than there isn’t an excuse for the younger sister to ask so ignorant. I don’t accept this behavior from my 10 yr old, I would never accept it from an adult!
Story 1 is a big nope! You can have an interracial relationship with someone with racist parents, but that ONLY works if the partner completely shutdown the racist parents and go no contact. This is bigger than OP. She needs to think of her child.
This! I was NC with my mum long before I met my current partner, but if she wanted to come back into my life? Nope, I respect my partner way too much to subject him to her racist bullshit. I saw the way she treated and talked about my second boyfriend, literally nobody deserves to be subjected to that based off the colour of their skin.
Bingo! You can't negotiate or compromise with bigotry. Doesn't matter if they are family, you cut them out and make it very clear their racists bullshit is THE reason they will never see their child or grandchild again.
It's also normal for the child's skin to darken over time, that's what happened to my second cousin. So my question is what happens if or when that happens would the family treat the kid badly?
"Hid in her car for 2 hours in a snow storm to avoid me" I'm sorry but LMFAOOOO that's so fucking funny, gotta love it when racists hurt themselves for no good reason
I would have been in front of a window with a large mug of something warm and stare at her. Let her know I touched her stuff and food and I'm in here warm and happy enough.
Story 3 WTF! Why did you marry this man? You couldn't marry anyone else other than a 2x divorced man with 6 kids? There was no one else? Just end this relationship. This is ridiculous. He wants 14k and won't even tell you what it's for. And so much for separate finances he's always getting money from everyone. Yes, YTA to yourself for this ridiculous relationship.
Story 2: this girl is totally clueless! Even Mark said “clueless” right after I typed it 🤣 yea, she didn’t even misstep on grabbing the hair dryer. I would have been so embarrassed and turned tail right out the door…but then I wouldn’t have just walked in without getting permission!!
OP you are TOTALLY TA!!! After you walked in on husband half naked you should have realized it could have been worse. Your sister TOLD you NOT to enter their bedroom. Common sense, common courtesy to knock and wait for permission to enter a room if the door is shut.
Story 2: her logic on why she didn't think they'd be having sex in their own bedroom in the middle of the night is because one of them had been feeling sick??? Um she has no self awareness and no respect for their privacy, personal space, or possessions, and has somehow forgotten that they're doing her a favor. I would kick her out if I were them because she's had at least three strikes based on this story
Story one: this woman made a horrible mistake in marrying this man without discussing prior to marriage and delineating how things would go after marriage and after a child was born. She should have made sure he already agreed to cut contact with his parents and there would be no expectation of his parents ever seeing their children. She made a huge mistake in marrying him without this.
story 1: hehehe I love when Mark "forgets" he's reading and puts in his 2 cents in the middle with the "oh fuck no" after one of OPS comments. I've giggled so hard I'm in tears!
Story 1 I would've never continued this relationship let alone had a child with a man who has racist and abusive parents and remains in contact with them. This will never get better.
Right?! Like the in-laws are HORRIBLE and completely in the wrong. But why doesn't anyone stop and think before having kids? There's too much of this "you can't control who you love" narrative about and people allow it to cloud their judgement. It was an absolutely stupid decision to marry and have a child with a man who has racist and abusive parents. Especially when he hasn't even gone no contact! Who sits in a house with their mother inlaw outside locked in a car for two hours because her racist ass refuses to be alone with her and thinks "yeah, this is healthy environment to bring a child into."
Any SO that believes blood family is more important than morality even by a little or for specific circumstances is someone that has to GTFO. OP’s husband by have made a lot of progress, but he’s still trying to compromise with people who don’t want compromise. He needs to drop this if he wants to keep his relationship.
The child is over a year old and they've never met him and only video chatted 2x! I was on the fence about a judgement, but they could meet in the city where the airport is, but they want to be completely accommodated, which is ridiculous when OP is traveling with a literal baby. But, yes the reasons they hate you are very important. Even if it's bs, the reason someone hates you is always important.
I lived in the same city as my ex in-laws and they wouldn't drive across town to see their first grandchild. We always had to go there. They never bought her anything, never played with her and my ex FIL actually said (when I asked if he wanted to hold his 1st, brand new grandchild) "I don't touch children until they can come to me". I tried to be patient, but by the time she was two years old, we completely cut them off. There are people who just don't deserve to be around children. Also, in the time I knew them I realized they were racist and I won't have anything to do with racists and did not want that type of thinking around my child. Interesting, how OP describes how the in-laws parented their own children is exactly how my ex in-laws parented theirs.
Yeah, the reason (being racist) was important. But so was how her husband was raised/abused. BOTH are incredibly valid reasons to blow them off, and I wouldn't cross the street to take my precious child to see such people. Especially since I'd have to do all the work to give them the chance to abuse and hate my child, in whatever manner they would find to do so. And they would. Perhaps even special ways to get further digs into OP and her husband through their child, whom the OP's in laws would want to take from them for YEARS being the only reason they'd take part in the child's life. No WAY I'd hand over my child to such people!
First story, she says the in-laws wouldn't want a relationship if her child was darker. Consider this: what if they allow a relationship with that child, but the next child IS darker, and they don't want a relationship with that child?
2- YTA I feel slightly qualified as a broke college kid who lives with their older sister and occasionally borrows her stuff. OP is absolutely the AH; even when I have explicit permission to use something, I always ask if it’s ok if I can go grab it from her room.
Exactly. Can’t tell me the purpose of the loan? No money for you. I agree with the commenters that think this dude sounds has a gambling problem. I can’t think of any other way in which money could evaporate that quickly. I’ll bet at least one of his former wives knows the details…
@@BruinPhD2009 Could be blow, could be blackmail, could be an ex wife threatening to take him to court for something...could be a lot of things. None of them any good, though; whatever this SOB's hiding, it's shady af~
I agree that he’s lying about what he needs the money for. But did no one else think that OP was obvious to how kids work? The oldest is only 16. They need food. Clothes. Schooling. School trips. Hobbies. Insurance. Etc. the dude has 6 kids. Obviously they’re expensive.
@@definitelyarealperson248 If it was fir his children he would have said so. The fact that he told her its none of her business while expecting her to give him the money tells me the money is for nefarious purposes.
I wish that the second story had a update whereby the nice and accommodating sister kicks out her selfish and inconsiderate sister (op). The amount of disrespect coming from op shows that she knows exactly what she’s doing and she doesn’t give two fucks about what her sister is doing for her.
I heard this story yesterday and then I saw it on my Microsoft Edge page as an article a few hours ago. It must be a very recent Reddit story so updates will probably be a while, but I doubt, with the roasting OP is getting, that she will say anything else to anyone! 🤣
Story 2: YTA SHE STILL GRABBED THEIR IRON 😂🤣 so....she was asked multiple times to knock and wait but that's "too complicated" and didn't do so. Then when they're yelling at her, she doesn't just leave the room. SHE WAITS TO GRAB THE ITEM. She steps on boundaries, has no courtesy, and does what she can to invalidate her sister's righteous anger. And all this while living rent free. Ifnits too much to ask to borrow an item, GET YOUR OWN. The AUDACITY
S2: OMG this one again! I'd get irritated enough to chokeslam OP, her sis is a saint! I really hope that this is fiction, otherwise OP is too stupid to breathe and I really hope she doesn't contribute to the gene pool.
"I need you to transfer your WHOLE savings to my account. I'll pay you back." "What do to need it for?" "None of your business." "No." "BUT FAAAAAMMMIIILLLYYYY!" What a ________!
That husband is out of his mind. If Anybody asks me for that kind of money and tells me that it's none of my business what he wants it for he his going to get me laughing in their face.
Story 1 - I'm not sure if I'd be able to put up with a family like that. I'd definitely cut them out too, if they don't care about my baby enough to come to see me even despite their racist attitude they deserve no attention whatsoever. Story 2 - OP is the AH, nothing needs to be added here. Such a brat. Story 3 - Please for anything precious to you OP, do NOT give him the money!! You will never see it again. If money issues are so severe in your relationship already, I don't see a good future for you two. Plus he is very shady ouch.. Thanks for the amazing content Mark, it was such a fun video!
Busting into a room without even knocking? I thought I had problems when my Mom would knock and then open the door while I was still inhaling to answer whether she could come in or not. I'm not exaggerating when I say I was still inhaling. The "Don't-!" or "Come-" wouldn't even get out until after it was open and she was either now apologizing or asking her question.
Story 2 OP is so lacking in self-awareness. You go to college, you know what people do in the middle of the night. Why is OP using a hair dryer at 10pm? The sister is providing a home and beauty products free of charge, the least she could do is knock before entering. And after dark, I just don't think it's appropriate to go to a couple's reason unless there's an emergency.
I’m guessing some of OP’s classes are at night and it just makes more sense to take a shower then. The excuse of “I didn’t have time to ask” is what clued me in. But like ffs it takes two seconds to knock. If you’re that pressed for time then just either get up earlier or use a towel
@@Boundwithflame23 what schools have you been to, that there are classes starting later than 10pm at NIGHT?! Maybe she's prepping for a date, but she's incredibly self-centered and rude to her sister, who's loaning her personal care products. Personally, I'd have gotten the sister (OP) some of her own, probably slightly cheaper. Maybe her own hair dryer. And most of all... a lock for my own door, so I could have privacy, even if my "dear" sister didn't seem to think she's trampling all over my privacy after all I've done for her.
It is absolutely crazy how in story one it's very similar to my sister's situation. The main exception, myself and my family are white. Just about every one of them treats my sister like dirt and call her lazy, (she is literally disabled), despite the fact that she's the one who tried helping her mother-in-law when no one else would. At least OP's husband in story one actually stood up to his family while my brother-in-law stood there when his own mother tried to attack me, mocks my brother-in-law if he needs help. Glad OP stood her ground about not going to see people who clearly are horrible people.
Story 2: I really don't understand people who don't know how to knock! It's so easy to do, yanno? It's something my brothers and I did for years, how can someone not understand that concept?
“And that I should be ashamed for involving courts and lawyers.” My man, the point of the contract is so it doesn’t come to that and keep courts and lawyers out of it. It only becomes legal if he knows he has absolutely no plans to ever repay you - way to tell on yourself dude.
That sister is so clueless. Claire did NOT over react. Just because you think you need something that you don't own, doesn't mean you have the right to barge in to someone's bedroom whenever you want. I'd be kicking someone out for that. Don't stomp on my boundaries. OP obviously hasn't fed teenagers. The food bill alone can break you. But to tell OP that the reason why he needs that money is none of OP's business is large red flag. I think he's got a gambling problem.
Story 1: I read this yesterday when it was posted to Mark's reddit. OP is putting up with alot of stuff, but she's in the right here with the way in-laws treat her. If they met baby, it might get worse.
Story 2- YTA. You’re living in someone else’s house rent free the least you can do is knock before you enter the room unless it’s a emergency. And to clarify emergency doesn’t mean you need a damn hairdryer it means someone is seriously hurt, dying, or something is on fire.
1: Just from the initial post, I'm saying NTA. The in-laws can't be bothered to go to the grandkid but have offered to take him for a few *years?* *HELL NO.* They want OP to do all the legwork of going to them so they can grab the kid and kick OP out. Calling it now. Why the hell did OP marry into a family like this? Before deciding to marry someone, *always* look at the prospective in-laws. Do they like you? Do you like them? If the answer to either of those is "No," ask yourself if your prospective spouse has a relationship with them. Is the prospective spouse willing to cut or reduce contact *before* marriage? If the prospective spouse *does* have a relationship and is *not* willing to cut or reduce contact, *DO NOT MARRY.* Comments: Racism. And the kid is the right gender and skin tone. Yep. There's a kidnapping in the works, I can feel it. OP says her husband did "a lot," but it sounds like they didn't talk about what would happen when they had kids *at all.* OP was also naive to think that simply acknowledging her existence as wife would be enough. Update: Oh! And these *marvelous* examples of humanity were *abusive* to OP's husband and are currently playing golden child and scapegoat with the grandkids they *do* have access to! OP's husband *wants* to throw his son into that hornet's nest? *HELL. NO!* They don't even send him *birthday presents* while he spends loads on their holidays and birthdays! He's still in the FOG. 2: Saw this one on another channel. *WOW.* I've got ADHD and Asperger's, so have problems with boundaries, and *I* know better to barge into a couple's room. Especially at *night!* Have a bit of trouble remembering that open door doesn't always mean welcome, but *STILL!* 3: Hey, want to know why the divorce rate is so high? It's not because of first time marriages, those actually have pretty good odds. It's because once you've already divorced, your chances of divorcing again *skyrocket* if you remarry. OP *willingly* married a two-time divorcee with *six kids.* Oh, *AND* he's constantly broke from crazy spending. "Clueless" doesn't *begin* to cover it.
1- NTA, I lost my sh*t at offered to take kiddo For a few YEARS. WHAT THE HACK! The first couple of years are crucial in a child’s development and being in a stable environment is key for healthy development. Being rises by racist who hate his mother is an absolute no go.
Story 1I would never allow my child to have a relationship with abusive in-laws! Why? Allow them to do to my child what they did to my husband? That would be an irresponsible move. And it’s irresponsible of her husband to put their child in the line of fire. They have their favourite grandchildren already. And it shows!
I miss going to rental stores. It was so much fun having a group of friends or siblings laughing and talking about what we think a game or movie would be like🤗. Then argueing with siblings later about who gets to play first or what movie we should watch first lol. Thanks for the walk down memory lane🙌
Last story: Aaaaahhh, the rent game stores... I actually have a good story about one: My city was very small, and had only one store, so, everyone rented games from there. The first save was for the entire city, and with every game, came a little note saying: "The first save represents the efforts of an entire city. Please, don't erase it". Everyone contributed, so, all gamers could see the end of the games eventually. The first time I completed 100% in a game (Mario 64) it was on the city's save, and it warmed my heart for years the fact a lot of people could watch the end of that infinite game because of me. A decade or so later, the store closed its doors, and I bought a lot of games from there (Mario 64 included, and they never erased my 100%, yay!), and even after so many years, I still never erased these first saves from these games. A lot of people who contributed with these progresses already passed away (my grandma, for example, I still have her records on a lot of my games, and it never fails to tear me up when I watch her avatar replaying her moves right beside mine), so, it's a good way in my heart to honor all of them.
Story 3: Not only is OP NTA for wanting a contract, but I'd go farther and say that OP would be a fool to give hubby the money. To me, it sounds like her husband either has a gambling or drug addiction, because I can't see how any child expense would require him to borrow 4k from her brother, and then abruptly 14k more from OP within a couple weeks. So, unless one of his kids is in the hospital, yeah.... drugs or gambling.
FYI - Freddo Frog is a Cadbury brand chocolate frog. A nice little single-serve item. These days I would personally expect them to cost somewhere in the $1:50-$2:00 range (Aussie dollars). Personally I go for the value of buying chocolate in blocks of 170g-200g, which average in the $5-$6 range, but picking supermarket specials can land two blocks for $7-$8.
🍓☕🍫🍶 "I barged into my sister's bedroom late at night whilst she was having sex with her husband, but, hey, I got the hair dryer I was after. How dare she ask for an apology??? Waaaa!" 🤦🤦🤦🤦
Going into my room the first time would be a stern swear laden warning. Do it again, you're out on the street no questions asked or f's given. Personal space and privacy are sacred, I am shocked she wasn't kicked out after completely ignoring that. This person is going to turn into one of those narcisistic a**holes we keep hearing on reddit, hope her sister installs some common sense into her before she completely goes off the deep end.
Small acts of kindness are so often overlooked. In high-school my best friend and I would get a muffin and coffee for lunch. Every day. I still remember the time the woman in front of us paid for us both. She told us when we were grown up and working we could treat some younger kids like she had. This was 20 years ago (yikes I'm old) and I still remember how impressed and touched I was.
When I was around 8, I moved to a new country, next to my old one where my citizenship still applied. Quickly made friends with a kid from another immigrant family (we both had parents who were African immigrants, mine is 1st-2nd gen, friend was a few gens in iirc) and we'd raid the sweet shops on the weekend. I bought 2 of everything, one for me and one for my friend. One day I went to the shops and bought sweets as usual, then realised they had cheap gum with fake tattoos inside, so I went to get some. I sat and counted my change, then got ~6 pieces of gum, exactly what I could afford with my change. Got to the counter, and I must've dropped a penny bc I only had enough for half of the gum I'd gotten, and went to put all but 2 pieces back (since i didnt want to have more than friend) when a nice oldish lady paid for my gum for me and gave me a bit more cash. I remember her words PERFECTLY. "Promise me you'll pay this kindness forward"
RE: Your wholesome story, I just love being able to help someone at the checkout when they're short on money - especially kids. I remember the feeling of dismay when the lady at the corner shop told me my mam hadn't given me quite enough money for what she'd asked me to get, and the disappointment when I thought I had enough pocket money for my sweets and I didn't. So as an adult I looooove being able to lean over and ask "How much are they missing?" so I can save the day ;-)
3. NTA. He wanted split finances (as it should be unless you want to be responsible for his kids). It is always your business when someone borrows money from you. That is why borrowing money is rarely a good idea.
1: If hubby goes to visit with kiddo, the kid won't come back. His family is trying to get them there, so bet there is a law taking her rights to her child away so that she has no power. They want to raise him as hubby's replacement child. Any meeting with them will include abusive speech and actions toward OP and child, especially if any characteristic matches mommy. Hubby wants to buy his family's affection with a kid and hasn't come to terms with they will never care about him the way he wants. 2: OP needs to find time to buy her own crap and get her own home. It would take less time than daily asking to borrow things one should not share. 3: When moneyis being loaned, why is a valid question. Finances are split for a reason. He can't be responsible with money, and he's trying to undo the split to put them both under.
Mark, can I have a word please? Firstly, I’d like to say that I love your Waffly narrations, your play out song with the smelly bacon (yum, yum yuuum), your witty asides (you cheeky thing you), the good, honest swearing, instead of ‘frick’, ‘fudging’, ‘witch’, and the absolute worst ‘beeuur’ (looking at YOU Markee!). I love your references to things from your youth and childhood that I (as a fellow Brit) can relate to, and I love that, in contrast to 90% of the other Reddit story narrators, your voice is interesting to listen to, your diction is great, and your command of the English language is good enough not to require you being exiled to an uninhabited island in the Arctic Circle (to where I would gladly banish certain fellow narrators for their terrible reading skills and constant grammar fuck-ups) BUT. I cannot ignore the fact that you persist (ironically) in mispronouncing the word ‘pronunciation’! It’s like a fingernail on a blackboard to me. So, repeat after me….Pruh-nun-see-ayshun….. there’s no ‘O’ in that second syllable. Sorry, had to get that off my chest, carry on waffle boy!
The last story really warms my heart. Small things can make kids so happy. My husband and I are renting a home and think we may have kids come to trick-or-treat for the first time in over a decade. (We were in an apartment before, and we never had kids come by.) We want to decorate the yard and hand out full-sized candy bars. I hope kids come by. But even if they don't, it'll be fun to decorate the yard.
Story 2: firstly you should ALWAYS ask to borrow something that doesn't belong to you. Secondly, was OP dropped on her head as a child? Who tf just barges into someone's bedroom at 10pm, let alone the bedroom of a married couple! Thirdly, if you can't afford you're current skin care get cheaper stuff & budget better, which shouldn't be an issue when you don't have to pay rent. If I was OPs sister the first time she burrowed something without asking she'd get asked not to do it again, the second she'd be told if she does it again she's out & third time she is out. I wouldn't put up with anyone coming into my bedroom without knocking no matter my relationship status, that's a private space.
Story 2: Why doesn’t the entitled sister get a job? How many kids go to school full time and work? Honestly, idk how to deal w family member like that. Geez
OP in story 2 couldn't ask permission to enter because because it'd "make things complicated" so apparently walking in on a married couple in the middle of them in bed is less complicated than...just knocking on the door? I love the lack of logic.
NTA! If husband wants his kid to see his family drive the kid to see them! Keeping the finances split was the best thing that could have happened to her. If he is desperate for money it ain’t for the kids. Drugs or gambling. And the brother is never getting that money back!
Hello Mark!! How are you doing tonight? I hope all is well and I wish you a great night!! I am slowly becoming more and more excited as the time goes by AHHH
Story Two.... holy crap, OP was the sister that tried to own the house growing up, 5 to 1. What sort of blind moron goes into a bedroom at 10pm when the door is closed? Of course they're doing something you're gonna interrupt, be it sleeping or other. I'd kick her back to the parents, she clearly still needs them.
Story 3. I think comments may have been a bit harsh. First off, OP sounds a little ignorant to how much children cost. Especially 6 of them. Is the husband having to pay for child support for all 6? Does he have alimony payments to either of his ex wives? Even at 200 dollars per kid, that's 1200 dollars a months. OP said the oldest is 16, that means all 6 children are minors. 1200 a month, what's the husband's job? How much does he contribute to mortgage/rent? If the husband is making 60k a year, 200 dollars per kid is about 25% of his income. And I doubt child support is only 200 per kid. I've heard stories where the father has to pay 1000+ per kid...multiply that by 6? Thats 3 times my monthly income. It bothers me that he's just assumed to be a drug addict or have a gambling problem, and no one seemed to even take this into consideration. Also, I'd be curious to hear why his two previous marriages "failed"
Story 2- really? Zero self awareness. YTA Story 3- hubby has a gambling problem. One week after borrowing 4k from your brother he needs 14k from you and says it’s not your business? Well your money, your business.
Sadly not all bedroom doors do. Only one bedroom at my family home had a lock. But if my sister was like that and can’t understand boundaries I would definitely be going out to get one that’s for sure.
I rented a room from a guy once, and he started going into my room and using my things, sometimes even removing them from my room. At NO point did he even ask to use them first if I wasn't home. He'd just use them and expect I'd just be okay with that. There was a latch I could put a lock on the room... on the outside. And with my cats, I needed to keep the door open, as the only AC was in the main room, and the litterbox was in my room. The first few times, I wasn't sure. Finally I came back and found he'd "borrowed" my lighter I use for burning incense, to light his weed. If he'd put it back, I would have taken longer to realize what he was doing. As it was, I had to search his room for it, and managed to find it without touching anything of his. I didn't like doing that. Finally bought a length of fine chain and a lock, wound the chain up in a way that left my cats enough slack to come and go as they wished, and he couldn't. Until I found this, I started taking a few moment's video of my room before leaving, and comparing that to how things were upon my return. There were always small changes. On a room I was renting from him. And asked him to not enter in my absence. OP is very rude, entering her sister's room as she does. She'd better get her head on straight before she has to find a place of her own to rent.
Story 1 sounds all too familiar. It took nearly two decades for hubs to be ready to go no contact. It was terrible to watch his parents emotionally ab_se him, knowing that he couldn't see how bad it was and, therefore, wouldn't/couldn't set boundaries to protect himself. I truly wish that OP didn't have to go through the pain of watching the in-laws tear her husband apart with their demands and their guilt trips. Hopefully, having support from the online community will give her more effective tools to help her deal with both in-laws and husband during future conflicts. 💙
Story 1: NTA and I'm going to read into subtext and say OP is probably a different race than In laws. That or a disability seems the only "unchangeable" thing about her. If it's either of those, then she's pathetic in the right but wanting her kid around then. They've made zero effort, won't compromise, and have already talked about taking the kid for years, it isn't feasible during the trip anyway. Edit after uodate: called it
Story 2 OP is utterly clueless. Wasn't she taught manners when she was a child? She is 23 and still thinks she can just barge into her sister's bedroom at anytime? She is rude and entitled. It is commonly acknowledged that a person's bedroom is a private space that no one enters without permission. I knew that when I was 7 years old. OP's sister is going to kick her out and I don't blame her.
If he’s like me, his response will be “Why do we have to be the ones to house her?” Been there, done that many times and I fume every time cause the person comes in and makes messes, never cleans up, always needs the washer/dryer when I do but beats me to it (they are mine) and eats all my food without replacing! (BF’s grown son)
*NAH in story 1* I knew this was the husband trying to grasp for an emotional connection with his parents. He's still balancing the reality of having a JustNoMom (JustNoMIL for OP) where he's essentially behaving like a small child with a perfect report card to get some sort of affection. I mean this sincerely: poor baby. I know what this is like, even from the perspective of an adult. I wish I could give him the biggest hug. OP could be a lot more understanding, more calm, and just give her husband some TLC. Like, trust me, he really needs a hug, not a battle plan... _(I mean he needs both, but still)_ OP is reacting defensively because she is afraid of them on the behalf of her child, and more so because she feels alone that her husband doesn't have her back. They both need to haunt JustNoMIL subreddit and RaisedbyNarcissists. Then, therapy. So. Much. Therapy. I do hope they move closer to OPs family so husband can sort of experience a loving family... But OP needs to understand it's going to be way more bitter than sweet. He actively has to mourn the loss of his parents and realize they kind of... Never were. It's a very, very tough situation. No one goes No Contact on a whim and because they want to. Heartbreaking.
I miss video game rental shops. There was one in my neighborhood and my family and I were frequent customers. I'd always get one game and a movie or two games or two movies. It was how I tried a game out before putting it on my wishlist. Now it'd one of four or five autoparts stores in my area, something we painfully do not need.
Freddo with a house and mortgage and kids, LOL, love it! May as well say the same to Caramello Koala, as he went with Freddo being from the same company.
Story 2: WTF? So you don't work during college, even though tons of people do, and your MARRIED sister is nice enough to let you stay. Then you "borrow" IE "take" all her shit by just barging in and have the nerve to say, "She got mad JUST because I walked in on him half naked to get the eye shadow I wanted." Do I even need to finish the story? YTA
Was homeless for a year. Lived with my sister's family. Paid small amount of rent. Even with permission I entered as little of my sis and bils room as possible. Not my space. Not my area to enter.
Honestly with story 2, OP needs to ask her sister for the items and wait until she gets them for her, or there is a time period in the day she could go into the room. If she goes into the room without permission, borrows items that she didn’t get permission to borrow, or she goes into the room in the times she shouldn’t, there should be a strike system where if OP gets 3 strikes she is no longer borrowing the items, Or best bet, get a lock and key for the door
Story 2: When I lived with my grandpa, if I'd run out of say milk (after mom moved out I took her room in the basement and there was a "food cellar" down there, around the size of a small closet, so I kept some of my stuff there (I used to buy this LHC milk, or whatever it's called, the one that can be in room temperature without spoiling until it's opened, and keeps longer than regular milk)) or even soda, I'd ALWAYS ask grandpa "can I take a glass of milk/soda", and he would say "I've told you that you don't need to ask, it's ok", and I would say back "but it's only polite to ask since they are technically yours". I was a teen. Legit had this "system" going with him from age 10 to when I moved out at 22-23. So if a 10 year old can grasp the concept of asking, someone in their 20s sure af can.
Parents live far away from OP’s family… and five hours away from each other…. Three hours from airport for one…. And two for the other…. They’re definitely in Ohio. Edit: oh, heck, and they’re racist? Ohio confirmed.
Story 3 is definitely a gambling addiction. Living with a person who has one you can tell it immediately. Unless OP either cuts off husband or husband gets help, they will be in debt. There's no other outcome to it other than being in debt and possibly becoming homeless.
Moment she said they hated her but it was for nothing she's done and it was about unchangable things, I knew this had to be a race issue
Of course. Why would anyone want to subject their child to that?
These in laws sound like my Inlaws who are white and Dutch. I'm white and of Polish ancestry and there fore less than acceptable.
@@itsjustme7487
Is polish a race? I’m not good with telling them apart.
@@magnarcreed3801
Poles face a lot of racism in Britain, Ireland and other EU nations. It reminds me of the racism many Hispanics face in America.
@@MCKevin289
Really? How can you tell? Most people just look various shades of tan.
S2: how are you 23 and see no issue barging in to people’s bedroom, especially at night? Grow up OP. You need to knock and respect people’s boundaries.
Like, she should get her own things too. It’s time if you think it’s fine to barge in a room that belongs to a couple.
Oh but this is not about her not thinking of beeing entitled. I think she has a thing for her brother inlaw she only does it when HE is around.
@@paulinadeboer3604 I'd bet you're right. OP couldn't possibly allow them to have intimite time, so she just *had* to make sure that it came to an abrupt--and awkward--halt. It's highly unlikely that OP couldn't hear any sounds of voices or movement before walking into the room. Plus, she made sure stay in the room until the moment had passed, instead of apologizing and immediately backing out. First, she stood there staring for long enough that big sis' yelled at her to get out, then, by grabbing the hair dryer. Isn't it funny how she so desperately needed the hair dryer that *very instant,* but was hanging out in the kitchen five minutes later, instead of immediately using said hair dryer?
We're going to be getting a future post from OP's sister, saying that she had to kick her little sister out. It'll either be because her husband finally admitted that he's been uncomfortable with little sis' perving on him, or older sis' will be distraught to find out her sister and her husband have been having an affair. Hopefully she cuts off those futures by kicking little sis' out right now. Otherwise, this behavior will only keep escalating.
Right? Small children learn to knock on their parents' bedroom door before they just thrust it open.
@@heatherduke5410 my oldest is 26 and youngest is 10, we have 5 children in total, all know and we’re told from very early on that you always knock before entering anyone’s room. I do the same and always knock before entering their room as well.
When they’re little I let them know all ages deserve privacy. When asked later we talk about how it can be traumatic for all parties if you walk in on any intimate situation.
That talk usually happens when they start having questions like “where do babies come from/how are babies made” or anything to do with sex. I don’t believe in lying to children about things like that. If they’re old enough to have the interest to ask they’re old enough to get a correct answer. If you don’t tell them then they will find out from someone else and either get told wrong info or not trust you because you lied.
Sex isn’t anything to be ashamed about, nor is self pleasure.
Back to topic, both can be made uncomfortable if they unceremoniously interrupted! If the older sister knows this than there isn’t an excuse for the younger sister to ask so ignorant. I don’t accept this behavior from my 10 yr old, I would never accept it from an adult!
Story 1 is a big nope! You can have an interracial relationship with someone with racist parents, but that ONLY works if the partner completely shutdown the racist parents and go no contact. This is bigger than OP. She needs to think of her child.
This! I was NC with my mum long before I met my current partner, but if she wanted to come back into my life? Nope, I respect my partner way too much to subject him to her racist bullshit. I saw the way she treated and talked about my second boyfriend, literally nobody deserves to be subjected to that based off the colour of their skin.
Literally my husbands parents. We are no contact. And we are in total peace ✌️.
Bingo! You can't negotiate or compromise with bigotry. Doesn't matter if they are family, you cut them out and make it very clear their racists bullshit is THE reason they will never see their child or grandchild again.
It's also normal for the child's skin to darken over time, that's what happened to my second cousin. So my question is what happens if or when that happens would the family treat the kid badly?
"Hid in her car for 2 hours in a snow storm to avoid me" I'm sorry but LMFAOOOO that's so fucking funny, gotta love it when racists hurt themselves for no good reason
I'm imagining her freezing and crying in the car and it makes it 1000x better
I would have been in front of a window with a large mug of something warm and stare at her.
Let her know I touched her stuff and food and I'm in here warm and happy enough.
@@justaperson4656"B-b-but if I g-g-go ins-s-side, I'll have t-t-t-to s-see a b-b-brown p-person" - racist MIL, shivering in the car.
Story 3 WTF! Why did you marry this man? You couldn't marry anyone else other than a 2x divorced man with 6 kids? There was no one else? Just end this relationship. This is ridiculous. He wants 14k and won't even tell you what it's for. And so much for separate finances he's always getting money from everyone. Yes, YTA to yourself for this ridiculous relationship.
IKR. OP must be blind AF to miss the sea of red flags. Husband is also so a druggie/gambler.
I ask myself that first question *so many times* watching these videos.
Agreed. This is ridiculous.
Kid is 16, i think he needs it because he did something bad with his collegefund.
@@Pyrieltmj Or he's paying to keep wife #4 on standby.
Story 2: this girl is totally clueless! Even Mark said “clueless” right after I typed it 🤣 yea, she didn’t even misstep on grabbing the hair dryer. I would have been so embarrassed and turned tail right out the door…but then I wouldn’t have just walked in without getting permission!!
OP you are TOTALLY TA!!! After you walked in on husband half naked you should have realized it could have been worse. Your sister TOLD you NOT to enter their bedroom. Common sense, common courtesy to knock and wait for permission to enter a room if the door is shut.
Story 2: her logic on why she didn't think they'd be having sex in their own bedroom in the middle of the night is because one of them had been feeling sick??? Um she has no self awareness and no respect for their privacy, personal space, or possessions, and has somehow forgotten that they're doing her a favor. I would kick her out if I were them because she's had at least three strikes based on this story
Best remedy for some headaches is an orgasm...
That level of entitlement isn't something I can even comprehend.
Nah. OP 2 is the baby, the golden child. Can't we just see that it's all about her? (obvious sarcasm should be obvious)
You have to wonder if people like OP were raised by wolves in a cave or something. OP has no sense of how to live with other people.
Story one: this woman made a horrible mistake in marrying this man without discussing prior to marriage and delineating how things would go after marriage and after a child was born. She should have made sure he already agreed to cut contact with his parents and there would be no expectation of his parents ever seeing their children. She made a huge mistake in marrying him without this.
Even if the parents were decent people, how about the extended family and community members? Sometimes love is not enough.
Agreed.
story 1: hehehe I love when Mark "forgets" he's reading and puts in his 2 cents in the middle with the "oh fuck no" after one of OPS comments. I've giggled so hard I'm in tears!
Yeah, that is pretty adorable!
Even better: when someone in the story is named "Mark", and he gives a quiet, despairing "oh, no".
Story 1 I would've never continued this relationship let alone had a child with a man who has racist and abusive parents and remains in contact with them. This will never get better.
Right?! Like the in-laws are HORRIBLE and completely in the wrong. But why doesn't anyone stop and think before having kids? There's too much of this "you can't control who you love" narrative about and people allow it to cloud their judgement. It was an absolutely stupid decision to marry and have a child with a man who has racist and abusive parents. Especially when he hasn't even gone no contact! Who sits in a house with their mother inlaw outside locked in a car for two hours because her racist ass refuses to be alone with her and thinks "yeah, this is healthy environment to bring a child into."
Yeeeeppp.
Any SO that believes blood family is more important than morality even by a little or for specific circumstances is someone that has to GTFO.
OP’s husband by have made a lot of progress, but he’s still trying to compromise with people who don’t want compromise. He needs to drop this if he wants to keep his relationship.
Amen. Honestly... Boundaries with family is on my top 3 list of deal breakers. For a while, I targeted orphans in my dating profile 😂😂😂
The child is over a year old and they've never met him and only video chatted 2x! I was on the fence about a judgement, but they could meet in the city where the airport is, but they want to be completely accommodated, which is ridiculous when OP is traveling with a literal baby. But, yes the reasons they hate you are very important. Even if it's bs, the reason someone hates you is always important.
I don’t care about the reasons. They really
aren’t important. Reading the story was enough for me to say NTA.
@@mindyschocolate no, the reason for the hate plays into the level of disrespect aimed at OP.
I lived in the same city as my ex in-laws and they wouldn't drive across town to see their first grandchild. We always had to go there. They never bought her anything, never played with her and my ex FIL actually said (when I asked if he wanted to hold his 1st, brand new grandchild) "I don't touch children until they can come to me". I tried to be patient, but by the time she was two years old, we completely cut them off. There are people who just don't deserve to be around children. Also, in the time I knew them I realized they were racist and I won't have anything to do with racists and did not want that type of thinking around my child. Interesting, how OP describes how the in-laws parented their own children is exactly how my ex in-laws parented theirs.
Yeah, the reason (being racist) was important. But so was how her husband was raised/abused. BOTH are incredibly valid reasons to blow them off, and I wouldn't cross the street to take my precious child to see such people. Especially since I'd have to do all the work to give them the chance to abuse and hate my child, in whatever manner they would find to do so. And they would. Perhaps even special ways to get further digs into OP and her husband through their child, whom the OP's in laws would want to take from them for YEARS being the only reason they'd take part in the child's life. No WAY I'd hand over my child to such people!
I have a feeling they made a remark that set everything off. Something racist.
First story, she says the in-laws wouldn't want a relationship if her child was darker. Consider this: what if they allow a relationship with that child, but the next child IS darker, and they don't want a relationship with that child?
2- YTA I feel slightly qualified as a broke college kid who lives with their older sister and occasionally borrows her stuff. OP is absolutely the AH; even when I have explicit permission to use something, I always ask if it’s ok if I can go grab it from her room.
Story 2: op is such TA. She’s grown ass adult so she should know about manners. Sister is correct. Op needs to be kicked out.
Um, story 2 is a no brainer. OP clearly doesn't get boundaries, don't blame Claire for lashing out. It's called asking! Or go without the bloody item!
Is OP dense or is she a stupid girl. Kick her Dupa out.
Story3: he’s lying to you about what he wants the money for. Hell no. Don’t give him a dime.
Exactly. Can’t tell me the purpose of the loan? No money for you. I agree with the commenters that think this dude sounds has a gambling problem. I can’t think of any other way in which money could evaporate that quickly. I’ll bet at least one of his former wives knows the details…
@@BruinPhD2009 Instinct tells me that money is the reason for at least one of his divorces.
@@BruinPhD2009 Could be blow, could be blackmail, could be an ex wife threatening to take him to court for something...could be a lot of things. None of them any good, though; whatever this SOB's hiding, it's shady af~
I agree that he’s lying about what he needs the money for. But did no one else think that OP was obvious to how kids work? The oldest is only 16. They need food. Clothes. Schooling. School trips. Hobbies. Insurance. Etc. the dude has 6 kids. Obviously they’re expensive.
@@definitelyarealperson248 If it was fir his children he would have said so. The fact that he told her its none of her business while expecting her to give him the money tells me the money is for nefarious purposes.
I wish that the second story had a update whereby the nice and accommodating sister kicks out her selfish and inconsiderate sister (op).
The amount of disrespect coming from op shows that she knows exactly what she’s doing and she doesn’t give two fucks about what her sister is doing for her.
I heard this story yesterday and then I saw it on my Microsoft Edge page as an article a few hours ago. It must be a very recent Reddit story so updates will probably be a while, but I doubt, with the roasting OP is getting, that she will say anything else to anyone! 🤣
Story 2: YTA SHE STILL GRABBED THEIR IRON 😂🤣
so....she was asked multiple times to knock and wait but that's "too complicated" and didn't do so. Then when they're yelling at her, she doesn't just leave the room. SHE WAITS TO GRAB THE ITEM.
She steps on boundaries, has no courtesy, and does what she can to invalidate her sister's righteous anger.
And all this while living rent free.
Ifnits too much to ask to borrow an item, GET YOUR OWN.
The AUDACITY
Last story: For those of us like me who don't know, a Freddo is a chocolate bar shaped like a cartoon frog.
I'm sad I didn't know about it before now 😂
Thanks. i didn't know.
Thanks, I was clueless! 😆
S2: OMG this one again! I'd get irritated enough to chokeslam OP, her sis is a saint! I really hope that this is fiction, otherwise OP is too stupid to breathe and I really hope she doesn't contribute to the gene pool.
"I need you to transfer your WHOLE savings to my account. I'll pay you back."
"What do to need it for?"
"None of your business."
"No."
"BUT FAAAAAMMMIIILLLYYYY!"
What a ________!
That husband is out of his mind. If
Anybody asks me for that kind of money and tells me that it's none of my business what he wants it for he his going to get me laughing in their face.
@@romonaelrod7870
And if it's your spouse, hopefully all the way to divorce court!
Story 1 - I'm not sure if I'd be able to put up with a family like that. I'd definitely cut them out too, if they don't care about my baby enough to come to see me even despite their racist attitude they deserve no attention whatsoever.
Story 2 - OP is the AH, nothing needs to be added here. Such a brat.
Story 3 - Please for anything precious to you OP, do NOT give him the money!! You will never see it again. If money issues are so severe in your relationship already, I don't see a good future for you two. Plus he is very shady ouch..
Thanks for the amazing content Mark, it was such a fun video!
Busting into a room without even knocking? I thought I had problems when my Mom would knock and then open the door while I was still inhaling to answer whether she could come in or not. I'm not exaggerating when I say I was still inhaling. The "Don't-!" or "Come-" wouldn't even get out until after it was open and she was either now apologizing or asking her question.
I had a landlady like that, when I was renting a room many years ago! She would knock, and open my door straight away if I hadn't locked it.
Story 2 OP is so lacking in self-awareness. You go to college, you know what people do in the middle of the night. Why is OP using a hair dryer at 10pm? The sister is providing a home and beauty products free of charge, the least she could do is knock before entering. And after dark, I just don't think it's appropriate to go to a couple's reason unless there's an emergency.
I’m guessing some of OP’s classes are at night and it just makes more sense to take a shower then.
The excuse of “I didn’t have time to ask” is what clued me in.
But like ffs it takes two seconds to knock. If you’re that pressed for time then just either get up earlier or use a towel
Why doesn't the sister get a lock for the door
@@Boundwithflame23 what schools have you been to, that there are classes starting later than 10pm at NIGHT?! Maybe she's prepping for a date, but she's incredibly self-centered and rude to her sister, who's loaning her personal care products.
Personally, I'd have gotten the sister (OP) some of her own, probably slightly cheaper. Maybe her own hair dryer. And most of all... a lock for my own door, so I could have privacy, even if my "dear" sister didn't seem to think she's trampling all over my privacy after all I've done for her.
@@cchastant8251 I must have misread the time mentioned. 😅 I was tired.
This story is obvious rage bait, no one is so unaware, and those that are would be too embarrassed to share their lack of wisdom with the world.
It is absolutely crazy how in story one it's very similar to my sister's situation. The main exception, myself and my family are white. Just about every one of them treats my sister like dirt and call her lazy, (she is literally disabled), despite the fact that she's the one who tried helping her mother-in-law when no one else would. At least OP's husband in story one actually stood up to his family while my brother-in-law stood there when his own mother tried to attack me, mocks my brother-in-law if he needs help. Glad OP stood her ground about not going to see people who clearly are horrible people.
Story 2: I really don't understand people who don't know how to knock! It's so easy to do, yanno? It's something my brothers and I did for years, how can someone not understand that concept?
“And that I should be ashamed for involving courts and lawyers.”
My man, the point of the contract is so it doesn’t come to that and keep courts and lawyers out of it. It only becomes legal if he knows he has absolutely no plans to ever repay you - way to tell on yourself dude.
Story 1 - Honestly after the details in the update, the offer to take the kid for *years* is even scarier.
That sister is so clueless. Claire did NOT over react. Just because you think you need something that you don't own, doesn't mean you have the right to barge in to someone's bedroom whenever you want. I'd be kicking someone out for that. Don't stomp on my boundaries.
OP obviously hasn't fed teenagers. The food bill alone can break you. But to tell OP that the reason why he needs that money is none of OP's business is large red flag. I think he's got a gambling problem.
Story 1: I read this yesterday when it was posted to Mark's reddit. OP is putting up with alot of stuff, but she's in the right here with the way in-laws treat her. If they met baby, it might get worse.
Story 2- YTA. You’re living in someone else’s house rent free the least you can do is knock before you enter the room unless it’s a emergency. And to clarify emergency doesn’t mean you need a damn hairdryer it means someone is seriously hurt, dying, or something is on fire.
1: Just from the initial post, I'm saying NTA. The in-laws can't be bothered to go to the grandkid but have offered to take him for a few *years?* *HELL NO.* They want OP to do all the legwork of going to them so they can grab the kid and kick OP out. Calling it now. Why the hell did OP marry into a family like this? Before deciding to marry someone, *always* look at the prospective in-laws. Do they like you? Do you like them? If the answer to either of those is "No," ask yourself if your prospective spouse has a relationship with them. Is the prospective spouse willing to cut or reduce contact *before* marriage? If the prospective spouse *does* have a relationship and is *not* willing to cut or reduce contact, *DO NOT MARRY.*
Comments: Racism. And the kid is the right gender and skin tone. Yep. There's a kidnapping in the works, I can feel it. OP says her husband did "a lot," but it sounds like they didn't talk about what would happen when they had kids *at all.* OP was also naive to think that simply acknowledging her existence as wife would be enough.
Update: Oh! And these *marvelous* examples of humanity were *abusive* to OP's husband and are currently playing golden child and scapegoat with the grandkids they *do* have access to! OP's husband *wants* to throw his son into that hornet's nest? *HELL. NO!* They don't even send him *birthday presents* while he spends loads on their holidays and birthdays! He's still in the FOG.
2: Saw this one on another channel. *WOW.* I've got ADHD and Asperger's, so have problems with boundaries, and *I* know better to barge into a couple's room. Especially at *night!* Have a bit of trouble remembering that open door doesn't always mean welcome, but *STILL!*
3: Hey, want to know why the divorce rate is so high? It's not because of first time marriages, those actually have pretty good odds. It's because once you've already divorced, your chances of divorcing again *skyrocket* if you remarry. OP *willingly* married a two-time divorcee with *six kids.* Oh, *AND* he's constantly broke from crazy spending. "Clueless" doesn't *begin* to cover it.
1- NTA, I lost my sh*t at offered to take kiddo For a few YEARS. WHAT THE HACK! The first couple of years are crucial in a child’s development and being in a stable environment is key for healthy development. Being rises by racist who hate his mother is an absolute no go.
Story 1I would never allow my child to have a relationship with abusive in-laws! Why? Allow them to do to my child what they did to my husband? That would be an irresponsible move. And it’s irresponsible of her husband to put their child in the line of fire. They have their favourite grandchildren already. And it shows!
I miss going to rental stores. It was so much fun having a group of friends or siblings laughing and talking about what we think a game or movie would be like🤗. Then argueing with siblings later about who gets to play first or what movie we should watch first lol. Thanks for the walk down memory lane🙌
Beware that when he starts repaying (yeah right) he won't hold up his end of the household expenses. That's not paying you back.
Last story: Aaaaahhh, the rent game stores... I actually have a good story about one:
My city was very small, and had only one store, so, everyone rented games from there. The first save was for the entire city, and with every game, came a little note saying: "The first save represents the efforts of an entire city. Please, don't erase it". Everyone contributed, so, all gamers could see the end of the games eventually. The first time I completed 100% in a game (Mario 64) it was on the city's save, and it warmed my heart for years the fact a lot of people could watch the end of that infinite game because of me. A decade or so later, the store closed its doors, and I bought a lot of games from there (Mario 64 included, and they never erased my 100%, yay!), and even after so many years, I still never erased these first saves from these games. A lot of people who contributed with these progresses already passed away (my grandma, for example, I still have her records on a lot of my games, and it never fails to tear me up when I watch her avatar replaying her moves right beside mine), so, it's a good way in my heart to honor all of them.
Story 3:
Not only is OP NTA for wanting a contract, but I'd go farther and say that OP would be a fool to give hubby the money. To me, it sounds like her husband either has a gambling or drug addiction, because I can't see how any child expense would require him to borrow 4k from her brother, and then abruptly 14k more from OP within a couple weeks.
So, unless one of his kids is in the hospital, yeah.... drugs or gambling.
FYI - Freddo Frog is a Cadbury brand chocolate frog. A nice little single-serve item. These days I would personally expect them to cost somewhere in the $1:50-$2:00 range (Aussie dollars). Personally I go for the value of buying chocolate in blocks of 170g-200g, which average in the $5-$6 range, but picking supermarket specials can land two blocks for $7-$8.
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"I barged into my sister's bedroom late at night whilst she was having sex with her husband, but, hey, I got the hair dryer I was after. How dare she ask for an apology??? Waaaa!"
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Going into my room the first time would be a stern swear laden warning. Do it again, you're out on the street no questions asked or f's given. Personal space and privacy are sacred, I am shocked she wasn't kicked out after completely ignoring that. This person is going to turn into one of those narcisistic a**holes we keep hearing on reddit, hope her sister installs some common sense into her before she completely goes off the deep end.
I heard story 2 so many times now and I find equally unbelievable each time how damn entitled can one be.
Story 3: none of your business what I want your money for and how dare you ask for a repayment contract! Yeah, no red flags here at all. 🙃
Small acts of kindness are so often overlooked. In high-school my best friend and I would get a muffin and coffee for lunch. Every day. I still remember the time the woman in front of us paid for us both. She told us when we were grown up and working we could treat some younger kids like she had.
This was 20 years ago (yikes I'm old) and I still remember how impressed and touched I was.
When I was around 8, I moved to a new country, next to my old one where my citizenship still applied. Quickly made friends with a kid from another immigrant family (we both had parents who were African immigrants, mine is 1st-2nd gen, friend was a few gens in iirc) and we'd raid the sweet shops on the weekend. I bought 2 of everything, one for me and one for my friend. One day I went to the shops and bought sweets as usual, then realised they had cheap gum with fake tattoos inside, so I went to get some. I sat and counted my change, then got ~6 pieces of gum, exactly what I could afford with my change. Got to the counter, and I must've dropped a penny bc I only had enough for half of the gum I'd gotten, and went to put all but 2 pieces back (since i didnt want to have more than friend) when a nice oldish lady paid for my gum for me and gave me a bit more cash. I remember her words PERFECTLY. "Promise me you'll pay this kindness forward"
RE: Your wholesome story, I just love being able to help someone at the checkout when they're short on money - especially kids. I remember the feeling of dismay when the lady at the corner shop told me my mam hadn't given me quite enough money for what she'd asked me to get, and the disappointment when I thought I had enough pocket money for my sweets and I didn't. So as an adult I looooove being able to lean over and ask "How much are they missing?" so I can save the day ;-)
3. NTA. He wanted split finances (as it should be unless you want to be responsible for his kids). It is always your business when someone borrows money from you. That is why borrowing money is rarely a good idea.
Story 2: There is a reason why it's considered good manners to knock and op completely ignored her sister's feelings.
1: If hubby goes to visit with kiddo, the kid won't come back. His family is trying to get them there, so bet there is a law taking her rights to her child away so that she has no power. They want to raise him as hubby's replacement child. Any meeting with them will include abusive speech and actions toward OP and child, especially if any characteristic matches mommy. Hubby wants to buy his family's affection with a kid and hasn't come to terms with they will never care about him the way he wants.
2: OP needs to find time to buy her own crap and get her own home. It would take less time than daily asking to borrow things one should not share.
3: When moneyis being loaned, why is a valid question. Finances are split for a reason. He can't be responsible with money, and he's trying to undo the split to put them both under.
Mark, can I have a word please? Firstly, I’d like to say that I love your Waffly narrations, your play out song with the smelly bacon (yum, yum yuuum), your witty asides (you cheeky thing you), the good, honest swearing, instead of ‘frick’, ‘fudging’, ‘witch’, and the absolute worst ‘beeuur’ (looking at YOU Markee!). I love your references to things from your youth and childhood that I (as a fellow Brit) can relate to, and I love that, in contrast to 90% of the other Reddit story narrators, your voice is interesting to listen to, your diction is great, and your command of the English language is good enough not to require you being exiled to an uninhabited island in the Arctic Circle (to where I would gladly banish certain fellow narrators for their terrible reading skills and constant grammar fuck-ups) BUT. I cannot ignore the fact that you persist (ironically) in mispronouncing the word ‘pronunciation’! It’s like a fingernail on a blackboard to me. So, repeat after me….Pruh-nun-see-ayshun….. there’s no ‘O’ in that second syllable.
Sorry, had to get that off my chest, carry on waffle boy!
The last story really warms my heart. Small things can make kids so happy.
My husband and I are renting a home and think we may have kids come to trick-or-treat for the first time in over a decade. (We were in an apartment before, and we never had kids come by.)
We want to decorate the yard and hand out full-sized candy bars. I hope kids come by. But even if they don't, it'll be fun to decorate the yard.
Story 2: firstly you should ALWAYS ask to borrow something that doesn't belong to you. Secondly, was OP dropped on her head as a child? Who tf just barges into someone's bedroom at 10pm, let alone the bedroom of a married couple! Thirdly, if you can't afford you're current skin care get cheaper stuff & budget better, which shouldn't be an issue when you don't have to pay rent.
If I was OPs sister the first time she burrowed something without asking she'd get asked not to do it again, the second she'd be told if she does it again she's out & third time she is out. I wouldn't put up with anyone coming into my bedroom without knocking no matter my relationship status, that's a private space.
Be kind, be safe and take care of yourself. Have a great day
I feel like the sister was trying to walk in on them on purpose.
Me too. She has hots for sisters hubby
Freddo costing more because he has a house, mortgage and kids is the best joke I've heard this month, maybe even year xD
Didn't you know? That's what mini freddos are! /j
What is it?
Story 2: I would have kicked her tf out. 😒
Story 2: Why doesn’t the entitled sister get a job? How many kids go to school full time and work? Honestly, idk how to deal w family member like that. Geez
OP in story 2 couldn't ask permission to enter because because it'd "make things complicated" so apparently walking in on a married couple in the middle of them in bed is less complicated than...just knocking on the door?
I love the lack of logic.
NTA! If husband wants his kid to see his family drive the kid to see them!
Keeping the finances split was the best thing that could have happened to her. If he is desperate for money it ain’t for the kids. Drugs or gambling. And the brother is never getting that money back!
Hello Mark!! How are you doing tonight? I hope all is well and I wish you a great night!!
I am slowly becoming more and more excited as the time goes by AHHH
Is good to always end with a wholesome story
Story Two.... holy crap, OP was the sister that tried to own the house growing up, 5 to 1. What sort of blind moron goes into a bedroom at 10pm when the door is closed? Of course they're doing something you're gonna interrupt, be it sleeping or other. I'd kick her back to the parents, she clearly still needs them.
Story 3. I think comments may have been a bit harsh. First off, OP sounds a little ignorant to how much children cost. Especially 6 of them. Is the husband having to pay for child support for all 6? Does he have alimony payments to either of his ex wives? Even at 200 dollars per kid, that's 1200 dollars a months. OP said the oldest is 16, that means all 6 children are minors. 1200 a month, what's the husband's job? How much does he contribute to mortgage/rent? If the husband is making 60k a year, 200 dollars per kid is about 25% of his income. And I doubt child support is only 200 per kid. I've heard stories where the father has to pay 1000+ per kid...multiply that by 6? Thats 3 times my monthly income. It bothers me that he's just assumed to be a drug addict or have a gambling problem, and no one seemed to even take this into consideration. Also, I'd be curious to hear why his two previous marriages "failed"
I rarely smile in a spontaneous way. The wholesome story brought back some good memories and an actual smile. Thank you.
Story 2- really? Zero self awareness. YTA
Story 3- hubby has a gambling problem. One week after borrowing 4k from your brother he needs 14k from you and says it’s not your business? Well your money, your business.
You can't tell me what 14K is for, you aren't getting it. Contract is almost a compromise.
Story 2: don't doors have locks? That girl is way over the line tho. There could be ways around this but entering a BR unannounced is NOPE NOPE NOPE.
Sadly not all bedroom doors do. Only one bedroom at my family home had a lock. But if my sister was like that and can’t understand boundaries I would definitely be going out to get one that’s for sure.
I rented a room from a guy once, and he started going into my room and using my things, sometimes even removing them from my room. At NO point did he even ask to use them first if I wasn't home. He'd just use them and expect I'd just be okay with that. There was a latch I could put a lock on the room... on the outside. And with my cats, I needed to keep the door open, as the only AC was in the main room, and the litterbox was in my room. The first few times, I wasn't sure. Finally I came back and found he'd "borrowed" my lighter I use for burning incense, to light his weed. If he'd put it back, I would have taken longer to realize what he was doing. As it was, I had to search his room for it, and managed to find it without touching anything of his. I didn't like doing that. Finally bought a length of fine chain and a lock, wound the chain up in a way that left my cats enough slack to come and go as they wished, and he couldn't. Until I found this, I started taking a few moment's video of my room before leaving, and comparing that to how things were upon my return.
There were always small changes. On a room I was renting from him. And asked him to not enter in my absence.
OP is very rude, entering her sister's room as she does. She'd better get her head on straight before she has to find a place of her own to rent.
Story 1 sounds all too familiar. It took nearly two decades for hubs to be ready to go no contact. It was terrible to watch his parents emotionally ab_se him, knowing that he couldn't see how bad it was and, therefore, wouldn't/couldn't set boundaries to protect himself.
I truly wish that OP didn't have to go through the pain of watching the in-laws tear her husband apart with their demands and their guilt trips. Hopefully, having support from the online community will give her more effective tools to help her deal with both in-laws and husband during future conflicts. 💙
Damn... My sister would be homeless if she treated me like that lol fuck that. That OP has been getting away with that shit for well too long.
Story 2..How difficult is it to knock on a door?! Really! Simple respect!
Hope you waffles have a great Saturday just me and dad hanging out today stay safe and positive!
OP #2 is lucky she didn't get kicked out
Story 2 OP and Story 3 husband sounds made for each other.
Thanks for the upload Mark! Happy Saturday
Story 1: NTA and I'm going to read into subtext and say OP is probably a different race than In laws. That or a disability seems the only "unchangeable" thing about her. If it's either of those, then she's pathetic in the right but wanting her kid around then.
They've made zero effort, won't compromise, and have already talked about taking the kid for years, it isn't feasible during the trip anyway.
Edit after uodate: called it
Story 2 OP is utterly clueless. Wasn't she taught manners when she was a child? She is 23 and still thinks she can just barge into her sister's bedroom at anytime? She is rude and entitled. It is commonly acknowledged that a person's bedroom is a private space that no one enters without permission. I knew that when I was 7 years old. OP's sister is going to kick her out and I don't blame her.
I chuckled a bit at story 2 but the verdict is obvious. I wonder if her sister's husband had anything to say about the situation.
If he’s like me, his response will be “Why do we have to be the ones to house her?” Been there, done that many times and I fume every time cause the person comes in and makes messes, never cleans up, always needs the washer/dryer when I do but beats me to it (they are mine) and eats all my food without replacing! (BF’s grown son)
*NAH in story 1* I knew this was the husband trying to grasp for an emotional connection with his parents. He's still balancing the reality of having a JustNoMom (JustNoMIL for OP) where he's essentially behaving like a small child with a perfect report card to get some sort of affection. I mean this sincerely: poor baby. I know what this is like, even from the perspective of an adult. I wish I could give him the biggest hug. OP could be a lot more understanding, more calm, and just give her husband some TLC. Like, trust me, he really needs a hug, not a battle plan... _(I mean he needs both, but still)_ OP is reacting defensively because she is afraid of them on the behalf of her child, and more so because she feels alone that her husband doesn't have her back. They both need to haunt JustNoMIL subreddit and RaisedbyNarcissists. Then, therapy. So. Much. Therapy. I do hope they move closer to OPs family so husband can sort of experience a loving family... But OP needs to understand it's going to be way more bitter than sweet. He actively has to mourn the loss of his parents and realize they kind of... Never were. It's a very, very tough situation. No one goes No Contact on a whim and because they want to. Heartbreaking.
Story 2: OP is super entitled and if I were Claire I would kick her out. Let OP figure it out on her own.
I miss video game rental shops. There was one in my neighborhood and my family and I were frequent customers. I'd always get one game and a movie or two games or two movies. It was how I tried a game out before putting it on my wishlist. Now it'd one of four or five autoparts stores in my area, something we painfully do not need.
Freddo with a house and mortgage and kids, LOL, love it! May as well say the same to Caramello Koala, as he went with Freddo being from the same company.
If it is too much to ask permission to go into someone’s room to borrow their stuff, maybe you should go and buy your own.
Op is not being clueless just disrespectful. I also think op intentionally walks into sisters room as much as possible. Sis needs to kick op out.
If the in-laws take that kid in for a few years expect her kid to hate her from the poison they dripped into his ear.
YES, exactly.
Story 2: WTF?
So you don't work during college, even though tons of people do, and your MARRIED sister is nice enough to let you stay.
Then you "borrow" IE "take" all her shit by just barging in and have the nerve to say, "She got mad JUST because I walked in on him half naked to get the eye shadow I wanted." Do I even need to finish the story? YTA
I would toss the OP in story 2 OUT! What a selfish brat.
Gambling. Or drugs, maybe. But probably gambling.
Gambling. Drugs is day to day money issue. Gambling matches the big amount requsted and promises of instant return.
Was homeless for a year. Lived with my sister's family. Paid small amount of rent. Even with permission I entered as little of my sis and bils room as possible. Not my space. Not my area to enter.
Honestly with story 2, OP needs to ask her sister for the items and wait until she gets them for her, or there is a time period in the day she could go into the room. If she goes into the room without permission, borrows items that she didn’t get permission to borrow, or she goes into the room in the times she shouldn’t, there should be a strike system where if OP gets 3 strikes she is no longer borrowing the items,
Or best bet, get a lock and key for the door
Story 2: When I lived with my grandpa, if I'd run out of say milk (after mom moved out I took her room in the basement and there was a "food cellar" down there, around the size of a small closet, so I kept some of my stuff there (I used to buy this LHC milk, or whatever it's called, the one that can be in room temperature without spoiling until it's opened, and keeps longer than regular milk)) or even soda, I'd ALWAYS ask grandpa "can I take a glass of milk/soda", and he would say "I've told you that you don't need to ask, it's ok", and I would say back "but it's only polite to ask since they are technically yours".
I was a teen. Legit had this "system" going with him from age 10 to when I moved out at 22-23.
So if a 10 year old can grasp the concept of asking, someone in their 20s sure af can.
Story 2: Sister should Kick out OP Immediately. She wont stop.
Oh my god. Mark! I've heard Story Number 2 from the older sister's PoV! It's on the same subreddit, I believe. o.o
Parents live far away from OP’s family… and five hours away from each other…. Three hours from airport for one…. And two for the other….
They’re definitely in Ohio.
Edit: oh, heck, and they’re racist? Ohio confirmed.
Hubby is sketchy. Keep the money away from hubby. Call the ex wives and see if there is a problem that you might not be aware of.
I'm guessing gambling because child support is crippling him. But when you decide to have 6 kids, that happens...
Hahahahaha bedroom you are not living there anymore, YES YOU ARE🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks Mark, love your channel ❤️💐
For all OP knows, the husband could want the $14K to hire a divorce lawyer, or something else really bad against OP.
Story 3 is definitely a gambling addiction. Living with a person who has one you can tell it immediately. Unless OP either cuts off husband or husband gets help, they will be in debt. There's no other outcome to it other than being in debt and possibly becoming homeless.
You can still rent video games at some libraries where I live, was my absolute Highlight when I was younger and still is for my younger brother ^^
17:17 omg, there were so many bad decisions well before "husband asks to borrow $14k"