Loose Women│Is It In The Public Interest To Know Why Jon Venables Was Re-Arrested│4th March 2010

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  • Опубликовано: 3 мар 2010
  • Loose ladies Andrea McLean, Coleen Nolan, Denise Welch & Lynda Bellingham.
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  • @pettyprincess4328
    @pettyprincess4328 6 лет назад +21

    And now the bastard has been let out and done it again 😠

  • @MickJaggerLoveChild
    @MickJaggerLoveChild 12 лет назад +34

    Sorry I agree with Denise... in Britain too much is done to help the criminal, never the victims!!

  • @leah10012
    @leah10012 12 лет назад +18

    I believe in everything that Denise is saying, these disgusting vile little creatures should of been put in a room with nothing but bread and water, in my opinion they have been rewarded for the murder of that poor baby boy. I understand when people go on about the two THINGS may have had a hard up bringing but in my eyes at 10 years old you know the difference between right, wrong and pure evil

    • @aprilgosa6315
      @aprilgosa6315 7 лет назад +2

      Baby boy is in Heaven his mama will see him again these two little pieces of filth will rot in hell

  • @debbieSparkle8t5
    @debbieSparkle8t5 10 лет назад +39

    Oh Lynda...silly woman.
    Agree 100% with Denise.

  • @gailc1948
    @gailc1948 6 лет назад +5

    The public deserves to have all pedophiles exposed and identified. That is a consequence of their actions.

  • @MetalAddict6810
    @MetalAddict6810 6 лет назад +16

    Sorry you're not here Lynda but you was wrong, he's done it again.

  • @marciasullivan6451
    @marciasullivan6451 6 лет назад +13

    Give me a break, two demons abducted an innocent child and tortured him to death. I wish nothing but bad luck on those two and pray for James parents and their healing

  • @Nokturna666
    @Nokturna666 11 лет назад +42

    I also agree with everything that Denise said. It's one thing for a 10 year old child to make a mistake but this was no mistake. They had lots of opportunities to let him go, but they didn't and what they went on to do was no 'mistake'. It makes me physically sick when I think about them about them and what they did. I have a little boy who is a month younger than James was. If this happened to him, I would want to know their identities. RIP little James xx

    • @michellemckelvie1537
      @michellemckelvie1537 6 лет назад

      Nokturna666 1

    • @blondeandchatty7842
      @blondeandchatty7842 6 лет назад +4

      I agree with you. A mistake for a ten year old is to steal some money or something. To kill a child in such an evil and premeditated way is disturbing

  • @dw89
    @dw89 14 лет назад +42

    "That crime is beyond comprehension!" 100% agree with Denise on everything she said!!!

    • @nigelmurphy6761
      @nigelmurphy6761 6 лет назад +6

      agreed. That was and still remains one of the most sickening crimes I've ever heard of. As far as I'm concerned neither of those two should ever be allowed out in public ever again.

  • @Rashy225
    @Rashy225 8 лет назад +37

    Totally agree with Denise!

  • @franceskellu3503
    @franceskellu3503 6 лет назад +8

    good for Denise says is like it is , love her she gets to the point no back doors in her , xxx

  • @jetnight88
    @jetnight88 2 года назад +2

    I agree with Denise the justice system was never made to protect us

  • @randommess6667
    @randommess6667 6 лет назад +24

    Ten is old enough to know right from wrong and to know many things, my mum used to tell me at ten she could talk to me like an adult and if they had abusive childhoods they may have known alot more then most their age, , but they ARE evil, no matter how they came to be evil no matter what caused them to be so twisted and awful people, they did it, and they deserve nothing but to suffer

    • @elvisleeboy
      @elvisleeboy 6 лет назад

      Evil wins when it turns good people into hateful and vengeful people. They may deserve to suffer, but I couldn't live with being the one to inflict that suffering. When I imagined the things they did, it made me incredibly angry and irrational and in those moments, I wanted to do serious harm to both Venables and Thompson - In other words they succeeded in turning me into what they are. I refuse to give evil that sort of credence. They will not get my hate or get me to hate. Instead of giving them my hate, I give my love to James and his family.

    • @randommess6667
      @randommess6667 6 лет назад +4

      I see what you are saying, but still if that was my son they killed and tortured then i could live with myself very easily for inflicting suffering upon them,, 2 wrongs dont make a right but it would definetly make me feel better then knowing they are getting away with it,, 8 years in prison is not enough so if they arent shown real punishment then i dont see why others shouldnt dish it out as they really do deserve whatever you could possibly think of as a torture and i would love doing it if i was the parents of poor baby james,,i would enjoy them begging me to stop if they had killed my baby boy , maybe your not a parent

    • @randommess6667
      @randommess6667 6 лет назад +2

      Also i think you would have to be made of stone to not feel hateful towards those 2 sons of bitches,, everyone has some bad and some good inside them but these 2 are nothing but bad , its not like they just killed him its the fact they tortured him for so long as well just for fun ,, me hurting them would not make me nearly as bad as them because i aint doing it for the same reasons ,, the baby didnt deserve it he was innocent these 2 are not so you couldnt compare me hurting them to them hurting him , its not the same as i dont want to go out and hurt an innocent baby but i would turn a blind eye if i saw someone doing it to those 2 an as i say i would probably do it myself if that was my baby if i didnt have other children i suppose that i needed to be around for then ya id go to prison it would be worth it to hurt them even a tenth of how much they hurt him

    • @elvisleeboy
      @elvisleeboy 6 лет назад

      daisy j Of course I would want to hurt them if it was my child. That's why I would and should not be in charge of the case. It is rightly those who are able to remain rational who are given the responsibility of doing the right thing and to know the difference between revenge and justice. If they really are evil, punishment is pointless, because it will make no difference. I want them imprisoned for life in order to keep the public safe. I do not think they should have been given new identities, because forcing two people who are already mentally sick to live a lie can only make matters worse. The fact is, hatred does sell papers and the tabloid papers seize any opportunity to put those infamous photos of Thompson and Venables on the front page in order to upset us and bring out all those strong emotions again.

    • @randommess6667
      @randommess6667 6 лет назад +1

      I think the victims should have a say , i dont know why anyone decided 8 years was long enough for these 2 mfs,, obviously the people in charge who make decisons on the length of time served ect shouldnt be the people deciding as they have no heart ,, it could have been their child do they not think of that, no maybe not they dont care they are guily as well,, the lawyers defending these 2 scumbags shame on them how can they live with themselves

  • @trueeyesrealisetruelies.8793
    @trueeyesrealisetruelies.8793 6 лет назад +8

    Denise we are there with you....

  • @iSpeakTheTruth101
    @iSpeakTheTruth101 6 лет назад +4

    And there were people upset when Lynda passed. Sorry but she had no compassion for James who was the victim here. Disgusting woman.

  • @rmcrae05
    @rmcrae05 4 года назад +2

    The system failed them because they coddled them instead of punishing and properly rehabilitating them. Giving them a cushy setting with a TV, games and the ability to go out and shop and walk in the park was an absolute slap in the face to poor James and his family. The second Venables reoffended the first time his ass should've been locked up in a real prison for life. You can't rehabilitate people with no conscience or morals.

  • @lynmcs7840
    @lynmcs7840 6 лет назад +3

    If they were given a life sentence we wouldn't be listening to this now.

  • @rossiplum50
    @rossiplum50 14 лет назад +12

    I totally agree with you .. It makes me sick that certain people seem to think that these monsters can be rehabilitated.. Their age and background had nothing to do with the unspeakable evil they subjected that little baby to.....Vile psychotic freaks....... They have no place in society and should have remained behind bars until their own death.. My heart aches for the Bulger family.

  • @JulieKernit1
    @JulieKernit1 6 лет назад +4

    THOSE THINGS should NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER HAVE BEEN GRANTED ANONYMITY IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY SICKENS ME THE WAY IN WHICH we give more consideration to the THINGS RESPONSIBLE than we do to the VICTIMS AND THE VICTIMS FAMILIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @marciasullivan6451
    @marciasullivan6451 6 лет назад +7

    Linda, they had a great run in juvenile detention. People like you favor the criminal over the victim and this mentality just kills the Bulgers.

  • @33LB
    @33LB 13 лет назад +3

    btw, isnt everyone forgetting that justice needs to be seen to be done?

  • @charlhaines1
    @charlhaines1 13 лет назад +2

    Coleen, if you were going to forgive your child for being made to do it fair enough, they both done it and blamed it on eachother and taking into account all the torture they enflicted on james, they deserve to be locked up in prison, evil.

  • @mariakelly1621
    @mariakelly1621 7 лет назад +3

    that child's mother has every right however keep in mind Collen the mother has to live with it every day show some compassion

  • @lynkent677
    @lynkent677 7 лет назад +6

    Linda.....If only you new what Mr Spain is doing to your own sons today....?

  • @kisses-a4045
    @kisses-a4045 6 лет назад +2

    Kids are kids. Eventually you become an adult. Guess what they're adults now, they should be doing LIFE in prison with their original identities. Let's see how long they last I mean, they didn't let the innocent baby live... why should they?

  • @33LB
    @33LB 13 лет назад +5

    @amazon1610 10 years old isn't as young as you think it is. 10 year olds instinctively know that harming others is wrong.
    and it's not like it was a single act of abuse- they actually walked with this toddler for several miles, beating him along the way. this was an actual pre-meditated murder, something which the vast majority of kids arent even capable of that. there is something very wrong with these kids.

    • @aprildannette9820
      @aprildannette9820 6 лет назад

      at 6 i was able to feel remorse and compassion for others they were 10 and felt none for this baby they are evil they should Rot

  • @misssparkles7520
    @misssparkles7520 5 лет назад +2

    total rubbish ladies, Denise is totally right

  • @carlmitchell9958
    @carlmitchell9958 6 лет назад +3

    Denise is right.

  • @aprildannette9820
    @aprildannette9820 6 лет назад +1

    He should never have been released if he was old enough to do such a horrendous thing he was old enough to pay for it

  • @misssparkles7520
    @misssparkles7520 5 лет назад +1

    well they did bow to public pressure and tell the country what he did and he's done it again,

  • @jasebrown2634
    @jasebrown2634 5 лет назад +1

    Rehabilitation tried Rehabilitation failed.Now what do we do..

  • @itsme1585
    @itsme1585 6 лет назад +1

    We the public should be fully aware of were these deviant creatures are lurking..... sorry Linda your wrong on this one, I fully agree with Denise.
    25 years down the line Venables has NOT been rehabilitated and cost us the tax payer millions of pounds in anonymity and 4 new identity’s
    Shame on the so called justice system.

  • @lizabethkane7044
    @lizabethkane7044 4 года назад +1

    Always, Always our hearts are going to be so sorry for that little child James, such a sweet soul 😇... undeniably the government has done the family horrificly wrong, to know their government won't stand by their own paying community, their own fellows that pay taxes that continue to live there, and have to go through all this,.. yet again..!!
    Bastard, Venables hides like a coward so he can come out and commit again, and he will commit again and he will commit again !! the heinous act that he can get away with, he is not being called out on his actions and he's not being punished appropriately it's disgusting, and sickening by the government themselves they're just as guilty!!!
    GOD SAVE THE INNOCENT.🙏

  • @trevorthompson7604
    @trevorthompson7604 5 лет назад +1

    Those two are beyond rehabilitation they should have been locked away forever it was premeditated they tried to take another child before they took James horrible vile scum no more no less it can never be justified what those two did to James

  • @93tiny08
    @93tiny08 12 лет назад

    In most cases I agree...but her points within this video are 100% PERFECT.

  • @Liam2621
    @Liam2621 14 лет назад +2

    anyone know hwat he looks like? Must be on the net somewhere

  • @ilikefood8075
    @ilikefood8075 6 лет назад

    Where is the other one

  • @OliverEByrne
    @OliverEByrne 14 лет назад

    I agree !

  • @karrotgold
    @karrotgold 14 лет назад

    @CatTune6 This is the main issue. The only people who have all of the details are in the system, and no-one has faith in it (myself included). People get dramatic because the higher ups don't think the public can be trusted with the information. It's not because they love to be dramatic, it's frustration.

  • @lindastanley229
    @lindastanley229 4 года назад

    The justice system in this country is laughable

  • @kingOFtheFISHpeople
    @kingOFtheFISHpeople 14 лет назад

    loose women is obviously the best forum for this debate

  • @Riveripple
    @Riveripple 13 лет назад

    @amazon1610 I couldn't agree more! People frankly don't make as much fuss about any other crime but a child murder. Every murder is a murder.

  • @kirkfnw
    @kirkfnw 13 лет назад

    I'm all for their release as long as they keep Jon away from batteries.

  • @Mmazrocks13
    @Mmazrocks13 14 лет назад

    why has someone 'thumbs downed' me for askin a question? =S
    it wasnt even offensive question since I was born a year after this so I've never heard about it before.

  • @matthewsmith7545
    @matthewsmith7545 2 года назад

    It weren't a accident, they took a baby boy to copy a film they watched that they thought was funny and put the kid through hell before tying him up to be cut in half. Not a tragedy, NASTY. "8 years each in feltham youth prison. JOKE!!! Rehabilitate the reasons why you don't do that!!! You can't!

  • @chrisbrown-ty6lp
    @chrisbrown-ty6lp 2 года назад

    Linda Bellingham has a level head, a voice of reason, RIP

  • @Furrowbrow
    @Furrowbrow 14 лет назад

    In fairness to her, though, she made a valid point. Justice is to be metered out by the justice system, not by the general public. Decisions should be made by qualified people who have all of the facts, not Sun reading lynch mobs.
    As emotive as the case may be, it has to be dealt with rationally and even handedly. Jon Venables' misdemeanor is clearly being dealt with by the system-we know this because he's back in jail. Remember that the guy had only to get a speeding ticket to be sent back.

  • @alanlamond3823
    @alanlamond3823 6 лет назад +1

    that freak was 8 not 10

  • @sexyhomeowner9345
    @sexyhomeowner9345 8 лет назад +3

    R.I.P. Lynda Bellingham, girl, you are missed. :(

    • @MetalAddict6810
      @MetalAddict6810 7 лет назад +6

      Sorry to say it, but her opinion on this matter won't be missed.

  • @RiDER-RHYTHM
    @RiDER-RHYTHM 6 лет назад +1

    Denise Denise Denise

  • @happybkwrm
    @happybkwrm 14 лет назад

    So.... the problem is not that Venables committed ANOTHER crime but that it's in the news? *Snort*

  • @sugar2491
    @sugar2491 14 лет назад

    For all the people who suggest that the two murderers should be given a chance or given some sympathy because they were only ten at the time are sadly mistaken njust think James was only TWO! now who deserved the chance they gave him no mercy why should they receive any themselves?

  • @dimmuborgir82
    @dimmuborgir82 14 лет назад

    the killers were only young when they commited the crime

  • @Mmazrocks13
    @Mmazrocks13 14 лет назад

    what actually happened for Venables to get put in jail the first time?
    cause wasnt he like 10 years old at the time? so he mustve done something badd...=/

    • @nikki-louisegohar1379
      @nikki-louisegohar1379 6 лет назад

      Marianne Brand he murdered a 2 year old boy. He kidnapped him took him to a rail way track electrocuted him with batteries threw bricks at him and then pinned him to railway tracks so he got hit by a train

    • @aprildannette9820
      @aprildannette9820 6 лет назад

      he murdered and tortured a toddler boy Marianne Brand

    • @l.aw.t9727
      @l.aw.t9727 4 года назад

      Plus they did alot worse than that its lately came to public attention alot worse

  • @lesleyrhind2931
    @lesleyrhind2931 4 года назад

    Denise i agree with you ! Linda and Colleen you need to get real and who gives a shit they were children ! They done things to James that kids brought up a lot worse than that pair would never think of doing what they pair of bastards did to a wee baby !!!!

  • @lilloz2k8
    @lilloz2k8 14 лет назад

    go ahead densy!!!

  • @sickochallis11
    @sickochallis11 12 лет назад

    reason > hormones

  • @ZarathustrasCrown
    @ZarathustrasCrown 13 лет назад

    The justice system has a hard balancing act, they have to TRY to respect the memory of the dead child, keep within the confines of the laws they're LEGALLY BOUND to uphold AND respect the inherent rights of the two perpetrators. I mean, ultimately it's we as a society who created the laws and standards that they are obligated to work within, if we don't like it we have the right to work politically and legally to change it, they can't just "change law" on a case by case basis.

  • @33LB
    @33LB 13 лет назад

    @amazon1610 haha, what? 10 year olds know perfectly well what they do. did you not know what you were doing when you were 10?

  • @CauseImMrsBrightside
    @CauseImMrsBrightside 14 лет назад

    Some people are just stupid, dont worry :)

  • @marciasullivan6451
    @marciasullivan6451 6 лет назад +2

    Linda, you lost the plot

  • @robertuk2006
    @robertuk2006 10 лет назад +3

    Some of you people in the comments make me sick! Call me whatever you want, I don't care. You are full of hatred! I worry about society sometimes, when you get extremists posting nonsense opinions!

    • @aprildannette9820
      @aprildannette9820 6 лет назад +1

      how is justice extreme Robbie they knew right from wrong yet they are walking the streets after that brutal murder they committed

    • @edzothedon1487
      @edzothedon1487 6 лет назад +1

      Full of hatred? No most if us don't want psychotic murderers living in out communities without our knowledge. If you are so fine with them invite them to your house and let them sleep with you. They showed no remorse for their crimes and could very well do it again

    • @aprildannette9820
      @aprildannette9820 6 лет назад

      Its not extreme Robbie t want our children to be safe from these monsters and justice for James you stupid idiot

  • @bigjohntightlips
    @bigjohntightlips 14 лет назад

    il make some vids bcos im not allowed to type what i think,

  • @MsBAustralia
    @MsBAustralia 6 лет назад +1

    THEY WERE 10!! Any child who commits a serious crime has the right to rehabilitation and for the public to hope that it works in the future as they grow into adults. I have a nearly 10 year old son and I have always looked at this crime from all points of view - from the parents perspective of all 3 boys. I couldn't imagine if my son did something as horrific as that (and god knows he never would) but if he did, if he was somehow coerced into doing something so violent I would hope that he could be rehabilitated and heal from such a terrible affliction. You never know what can happen with rehabilitation, I mean, look at how differently the outcomes have been for Thompson and Venables. Thompson has gone on to do very well and lead a positive life with no troubles even though he was supposedly the ring leader in all of this, yet Venables who was seemingly the most tactile and sensitive and scared throughout the police questioning and trial, has grown up to be a bloody paedophile. All I am saying is that children deserve a second chance, we cannot assume that when children commit violent crimes that they are all bad seeds.P.S. After seeing that Venables has now been caught twice with child pornography, it is safe to say, he should be locked up for life for that.

    • @aprildannette9820
      @aprildannette9820 6 лет назад

      MsB he was arrested for child porn it did not work

    • @MsBAustralia
      @MsBAustralia 6 лет назад +1

      It worked for Thompson though.

    • @l.aw.t9727
      @l.aw.t9727 4 года назад +1

      Don't know why the fuck people keep praising Thompson he killed and did horrific things to this boy also assaulted him in the worse way possible they raped this wee boy and killed him hes maybe not re offended but he is not to be bloody praised for keeping a low profile probably still a big pedophile somewhere doing horrific things just not as stupid as the other one to get caught i dont believe hes rehabilitated at all he's a killer an evil man never forget that it was not just pedo john it was Thompson to and its only a matter of time before he dose it again no one that evil truly changes no woman or man would be saying these two were kids and deserve a second chance if it were there little child brutally killed the british public are fucking delusional its thinking like you that makes me sick and how do you know Thompson has gone on to do very well? He's probably in a bush looking at kids while i type this

  • @robertuk2006
    @robertuk2006 10 лет назад +1

    Continuing to hound them won't bring jamie bugler back!

    • @aprildannette9820
      @aprildannette9820 6 лет назад +3

      No Robbie Aikman but it might stop them from doing it to some other child you know Venables got caught with kid porn recently right?

  • @robertuk2006
    @robertuk2006 10 лет назад +3

    Leave them alone! They have done the time! They were only 10 year old boys when that horrific crime took place! It is wrong to hunt them down and punish them for the rest of their life's! I repeat 10 years old! That is the youngest age possible to be tried for a crime in England. Yes they did a horrible thing. But they were punished for it with a long sentence! They spent the rest of their childhood in secure units and young offenders institutions! We can't keep on hunting them done and continue trying to punish them! That's wrong! They came from really troubled families. I honestly think it is disgusting for anyone to think it's okay to punish someone for a crime they committed when they were 10, for the rest of their life's and not leaving them alone! No ten year old child deserves that!

    • @doxasophosmoros
      @doxasophosmoros 9 лет назад +10

      Robbie Aikman do you know anything at all, about the crime or how (fucked up) they are now? do you know basic psychology and pathology of a psycho like I do? About the scarcity of resources, climate change, overpopulation, wasting shit on scum?
      Bleeding hearts, god you are delusional.

    • @callumknowles5592
      @callumknowles5592 9 лет назад +8

      They brutally tortured a 2 yr old boy they kidnapped him from his mum

    • @blackflags6276
      @blackflags6276 9 лет назад

      Robbie Aikman accoding to sharia they were above the age of puberty. Why do you choose 10 why not 12, 15, 70. It should be wen they reach puberty.

    • @blackflags6276
      @blackflags6276 9 лет назад

      Zeldatheism accoding to sharia they were above the age of puberty. Why do you choose 10 why not 12, 15, 70. It should be wen they reach puberty.

    • @doxasophosmoros
      @doxasophosmoros 9 лет назад +1

      Hi, you need to be talking to Robbie not me. I know they knew what they were doing, so do doctors. It was whether or not one is rehabilated after commiting and living remembering commitng the event and what the brain's capabilities are in the first place to commit such an act, they discovered of course that Thompson is a grade A psychopath so he didnt have any feeling to even rehabiliate, which any clever person could see- dont need a degree to see that. Jon isnt a psycho but suffers mental turmoil anyway and has a lot of issues. I think they are lost causes, you should direct your comment at robbie ;) BlackFlags

  • @sugar2491
    @sugar2491 14 лет назад +1

    For all the people who suggest that the two murderers should be given a chance or given some sympathy because they were only ten at the time are sadly mistaken njust think James was only TWO! now who deserved the chance they gave him no mercy why should they receive any themselves?