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Every word this man is saying is straight, satire, and humoristic not to be taken. Seriously thanks for the laugh though.😂 looking forward to seeing some of some surron/talaria content
@@CycleCruza I will! Luckily there’s a big aftermarket with these bikes. When something does break you should be able to fix it yourself. I also like the fact that it’s lightweight and confidence Inspiring. And yes absolutely, wheels and suspension are the first upgrades on the list. Been wanting to get into off-roading for a lil while now. Looks like a blast. Can’t beat that $1,000 ebike though. That thing rips
I have the sting mx3 and Love it for offroading iv had almost 1 year got it in November. and all I Upgradeded so far is a 58t sproket riser bars Pegs. im still 19 19 But got a Kenda Millvill Tire up front and a Track master in the Rear. Fastace fork with 60lbs spring..Honestly stock was not bad for off roading. sure 19" is a wee small but I adapted..
Two things: First I wanted to make sure you knew that the fat tires really slow you down on the road. So, if you wanted to increase your mph on the road, switch to skinny tires like you see on tour de France road bikes. Second, I was wondering what you do to clean the sweat from the armpits of your CE armor vest. Thanks
It depends on what you want to do with your Sur Ron X. I wanted it as a dual sport but mostly ride off-road, the small skinny cheap wheels it comes with are terrible off-road. The much bigger FAT tires on my E-Bike are amazing on both road and street. You can always make the Sur Ron X faster with a bigger battery and controller if you want more power. As far as my CE Armor jacket, the arm pits are a breathable mesh, it flows lots of air throughout the jacket, the most airflow out of any jacket ever. You will not have any sweat and I rode with mine down in the Georgia humid summer heat.
Why would anyone buy a sur-ron for cardo im confused how that has anything to do with a sur-ron. The fun of a sur-ron is being able to ride everywhere, and nobody keeps the stock tires on the sur-ron i love it
@@Alex-gn6xb no I have a yamaha street bike two totally different rides but I like doing both and on single track I hardly ever hit full speed on the surron. the fun of the surron is going everywhere with out anyone caring. I can't do that with my motorcycle
@@2wheelsSinCity ride everywhere you want - sounds cool! I don’t want to have any trouble on my way to the trail or on that trail:) what state do you live in? I’m in Missouri and guess if I’ll have any troubles with law enforcement
Haters gonna hate. My 2022 Surron is mostly stock except for pegs , supermoto wheels and controller and I love it. It gets more use than my Porsche Cayman and I get to work quicker on the Surron because there are no rules, ie; wrong way down one way streets, blasting through red lights, bike paths, sidewalks, off road. It's amazing what you can get away with.
I've actually owned my 2023 Surron LBX for about 6 months now and i will say the stock bike wasnt too too bad, i had the DNM forks on mine and im 6' 6" 260lbs so the stiffer suspension was needed for me, but there were definitely some upgrades that had to be done. Like the tires, pegs and brakes, but owning a Surron is not a cheap hobby for sure, i am already $9500 into my bike. but i also use it for doordash/ UberEATS and its also the only form of transportation i own, its what i use to commute to work and run errands.
Really, my main point is you have to mod the Surron for it to be proper and it will cost you more than I paid for my brand new MT-07 last year. To me it is not worth it but if I did delivery and commuting like you that it makes more sense. I do charge my Surron with solar power so I get free transportation, that is what I love about it the most.
@@Ratm4life dont get a xxx get an mx3/4. You will want a bigger battery later. Also don't get K.O. horrible customer experience, and huge haters on forums and discords and bad controller. Asi bac stress tests confim it. look it up.
You wanted to trash talk the surron and push ur review on the other bike. So basically it's a YOU problem. Stop comparing electric motos with bicycles my dude. Honestly this review makes no sense. You seem super biased yet you bought a SurRon. Did they trick you into buying it my dude? Did they tell you you're gonna be doing cardio with them pegs? lmao
Surrons are perfect for urban/suburban exploration and adventure. And they are very capable on trail. Been riding mine daily since 2020. If you can’t climb stairs on a Surron that’s on you guy. Not the Ron. Even with stock tires. Also as far as visuals, looking at my Surron never fails to give me or others a smile. That other bike your promoting? Not so much.
Just what I was thinking. I live in Donora Pennsylvania google maps it hill sooo steep they have sidewalks with railings vs sidewalks lol I've climbed two blocks worth of steps on my sur ron LBX on my STOCK sur ron LBX I've sent it over crazy jumps ride it in loose dirt and gravel. And since I modded my stock suspension (fast ace front dnm rear) with heavier springs than a few other things to the front forks about $400 I think it's even better. Although now that I got the 2023 Talaria sting R mx4 my sur ron is the red headed step child ATM I'm going to fully rebuild it after 5,289 miles on the mostly stock parts it could use the overall.. Also should point out my sur ron is a daily ride! Rain snow all year around I ride it. Have rain gear snow gear heated grips that are tie on with a USB plug easy to remove or put on heated seat cushion that straps on. And more it's never let me down have yet to find a trail that I could not conquer. Maybe a hill or two off road but they was at like a 70% incline loose dirt and gravel
@@LatchkeyKidX I have one I have a few different ones. But there is 2 different hills I have yet to complete but my yz125 can't do it either my 250 and 450 eat them up
I actually haven't taken my Talaria MX4 there yet. It might have the right balance between weight and power and lets me change the gear ratio digitally now I'm thinking I have no choice but to hit the spot today 😂
Have you ever rode a fat Tire e-bike? The ride quality on those big FAT wheels on both street and off-road is way better than that shitty stock Surron wheels. As far as power and torque, that is the only thing that makes the Sur ron fun, you have to pour lots of money into it for it to be proper, the suspension is a pogo stick.
My bone stock talaria sting r is excellent off road!! Jumps good but it does bottom out on big jumps so I’m gonna upgrade the suspension but the bike fuckin rips
A 72v Surron is more fun than any motorcycle I’ve ever owned including a 2019 KTM 500 supermoto. I’m also guessing you never put the proper PSI in the front forks, it comes low from factory and needs to be pumped up to around 125-150 psi
Ive got both type of bikes. Fat tyred ebike and a talaria sting r mx4. Since the talaria arrived the ebike has had nothing on its seat apart from dust...... 600ks in 2 months on the talaria and love it more i ride it.
If you have this opinion of a surron I think that it's better you don't have one. Couldn't be easier to operate, repair or maintain. But I get it, things are hard
So basically what you’re saying is it’s a skill issue; You can’t ride off road with the surron because it’s too hard for you, whereas the other bike does most of the work for you with those big ugly wheels.
You hit a root sideways when you trail rode the surron causing the front to slide it even happens on actual dirt bikes me and all my buddy's have done it. user error not the bike!
first of all that is not a mountain bike that is a fat tire ebike. and secondly saying that ebike does better off road than a surron x is like saying my bmx is better for the tour de france or sm shit.
Surrons & Talarias have their place with a great following. You can mod these Bikes from Street to Moto Cross and not too many bikes have that capability ?? Too each their own I guess ??
I like your enthusiasm. Got my Sur Ron X a couple of days ago. One ride so far. I have 3 acres to ride it on. Not a lot of room, but it will be fun. The Sur Ron X doesn't need a lot of room and it's silent. I ride dual sport and find it hard to enjoy riding on the street these days with all the traffic. I like the dirt riding part. This will allow me to ride right here at home on my property since it's electric. The big difference between your two e-bikes to me is the fact that the pedal bike you have is legal ANYWHERE a bicycle can go, and the Sur Ron is technically legal NOWHERE. You can ride that pedal bike with peace of mind. No one is going to yell at you, police will not hassle you. The thing is with me is, I dig the Sur Ron. It's just too cool looking plus it pulls wheelies. I'm sorry but I can't get as excited about the pedal bikes even though I'd probably enjoy one. That's my thoughts. Great channel.
Put the fat tire suspension on the front SurOn and do a mash up of things you like onto the SurOn to make it better for budget cheap from existing stuff you own already that could be a build series
Life isnt about reselling its about fun experiences think u need to wreck on your bike to feel that feel i was in coma 11 days from a sports bike 2020 zx6r not my fault and u preach yourself that the streets arent great and the surron is the most fun ive had. Spend a little money sorry u made a poor choice with the property you bought colorado prices just keep going up. 😅😂😅😂
You have a very good point about bang for buck and versatility. ....... you really have to think hard about what you going to use it for before you blow loads of money on something that isn't that great compared to something 4 times cheaper......good video x
Lol dude that $1,000 bike is a disposable e-bike it will last about as long as a bic lighter 😅 If you counting pennies than sure the sur ron might not be for you. Even still wasting a $1,000 on random clone bike 🚲 is not only a waste but irresponsible. There is no such thing as a good $1,000 ebike lol maybe it's good or even great out the box sure I'll give them that but without a doubt 100% fact it will break within the 1st 500-1,000 miles. I been riding MTB BMX motorcycles dirtybikes for 20+ years I was 6 when I got my 1st mini bike which I learned to ride before bicycles. I've worked as a bicycle messager I've even competed in the Red Bull rampage twice I was a sponsored dh MTB rider for a minute and was on my way to Poland to competitively stunt sport bikes my freestyle riding skills are next level. But I ran from the cops 1 time to many (over a dozen times) on the same bike took a year they tracked me down and I lost my licenses for 10years still road anyway only to add 5 more years to that suspension now the last 8 years I've learned my lesson (kind of but not really) I've taken to alternative means of travel I've spent well over 50k the last 8 years on different bikes from building motorized bicycles loads of fun but not reliable to building my own e-bikes and e scooters. I've bought dozens of factory bikes so far I've yet to find a more versatile and capable and better priced bike as the sur ron and the Talarias mx3 mx4 and XxX which are my favorite and bike I recommend. The XxX may be the one for you it's only $3,200 and is faster than the sur ron LBX. If you want real recommendations on e-bikes I know them all
@@locostse7en I'm blue collar work 55hrs average a week. When I was starting out sure I wasted money on $1,000 e-bikes like I said I learned this all the hard way. They do not last or hold up over time simple as that. The sur ron mine has over 5,000 miles on it and still rides as good as the day I got it
My boy did a serious surron X build. He has WP suspension from the KTM 150, Fox rear shock. 72 v with a 12-speed controller. It's pretty crazy. IMO not worth 11K lol but to each their own. He can get about 70 miles though
Cool! He'll take a serious hit on resale value if he ever decided to sell it. He could have bought a brand new 450 dirt bike and had money for mods for 11k. It wasn't worth it to me.
Or if you live in an area surrounded by Karen's, the surron is way more fun than a dirtbike. If I pulled out my yz450 the cops would be called immediately, the surron on the other hand I can rip all night anywhere and never had a problem. I've also got a 2008 yzf r1 and to be honest I pretty much only ride the surron 😂😂😊
@@samknowsthefacts4709 I live in a suburb HOA loaded with Karens and they never bother me but I don't ride around my own neighborhood, just to leave. Also, when I ride my 450 supermoto in hoods I never stay long long, I'm out before any cops can come. Bust a wheelie and gtfo. lol The Sur Ron is innocent looking and more Karen friendly for sure. lol Just don't go too far and run out of power.
I have a worked sur-Ron. They are for people like me that live in neighborhoods with alot of Karen’s. (Long Island NY). I can sneak through the trails unnoticed.
🤣 Let's hope your prospective Craig's List or whatever buyer doesn't see this video CC !!! I looked at the Sur Ron pretty hard when my Rad Rover had a tough time with hill climbs, but got a high performance upgrade on the Rover instead. Glad I did.
Yo CC you want to have some fun get yourself a arrma kraton 8s Or a Traxxas xmaxx 8s.....wild fun.. my kraton (K8S) runs on 12s now. It's a monster. It can pull a grown man in a wagon at like 25mph 🤣🤣🤣 it's a blast. I use it during the off season ( winter) and it's insane.
@@CycleCruza they aren't cheap. But bro if u like electric stuff. These are the way to go. I have both the K8S and xmaxx and they are amaizng. Upgrades are endless. U can do crazy things with these I've taken my xmaxx in mud holes where I've seen quads stuck. It went right through it. Same for my K8S that's done hill climbs/jumps that would blow ur mind mind.
SUR RON are perfect for city riders/urban. Surron is also great for those people who want like a grom but don't have a motorcycle license. I was going to get a SURRON but since I got my license might as well get a grom or z125 but I would still get a surron if I get a great deal.
I’ve had a z125 pro back in 2019. Those things are such a blast. Learned how to wheelie on it. Just recently Copped the sting r so I can learn balance point wheelies without dropping my zx6r actually 😂
Talaria Sting R with stock suspension is bro. Not sure if you’re tried it but it 💩 on a stock surron. Surron and Talaria bikes are a different ride tho. You can’t really compare it to that e-bike.
Did you ever think of buying a legit electric dirtbike, I know KTM sells one and I saw one which actually had gears. The plus side on those they are actual dirtbikes. And it be interesting for content cuz I dont see any other motovlogger really have one
If all you are worried about getting a workout you might as well just keep that ugly fat tire bike and sell all your other bikes too right? lol This review cracks me up.
If you want cardio, buy a normal mountain bike -_- Your comparing apples to oranges, the surron isnt meant to be a replacement for a mountain bike, its meant to go off road or on the streets, its an electric dirt-bike, the electric mountain bike your glazing is meant to be a mountain bike, the surron isn't.
$4,200 sur ron 🆚 $2,000 for one of the better built China 250cc & say $500 in part upgrades down the road when things wear out. I know I know a $2000 China 250cc isn't nearly as good as a Yamaha 250 that 4 times more. But is a decent bike for $2k if you know how to take care of it & diy fix...$2k China bike is better than $4k Sur Ron China bike.
I would NEVER buy a Sur Ron X. You buy it then upgrade it and before you know it you spent enough to buy something like a MT09. It's ridiculous imo. I mean which would you rather have as a fun bike Sur Ron X or a Grom? It be the Grom for me.
Those tires don't mean and do anything yeah they will go over rocks but pop over a radial in middle of street have intheair 45mph ebike with 26x4.75 tires they pop just like any other bike
am I the only one who realizes that this is a commertail? he is coplaining about no pedals but if he orded it with knowlede or at least lookked at a picture of it he would know.
To be honest it is bullshit xD if you want to talk about cardio go get regular bicycle not ebike, unless you ride those heavy tires w/o moto support you burn nothing. I can agree with you that stock surron is far from perfect, thats correct.
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This video reeks of sponsorship. CC done sold out smh.
Fr. REEEKS!
bro was just promoting that mountain bike🤣
This is the opposite of keeping it real.
fr what is blud yapping about
Every word this man is saying is straight, satire, and humoristic not to be taken. Seriously thanks for the laugh though.😂 looking forward to seeing some of some surron/talaria content
I actually just ordered the talaria sting r mx4. I’m so stoked for it to come in next week. Can’t wait to shred it up on the trails 🙌🏽
Hey let me know how you like it. You are going to have to mod it for it to be proper for off-road. They put the cheapest components on it.
@@CycleCruza I will! Luckily there’s a big aftermarket with these bikes. When something does break you should be able to fix it yourself. I also like the fact that it’s lightweight and confidence Inspiring. And yes absolutely, wheels and suspension are the first upgrades on the list. Been wanting to get into off-roading for a lil while now. Looks like a blast. Can’t beat that $1,000 ebike though. That thing rips
I have the sting mx3 and Love it for offroading iv had almost 1 year got it in November. and all I Upgradeded so far is a 58t sproket riser bars Pegs. im still 19 19 But got a Kenda Millvill Tire up front and a Track master in the Rear. Fastace fork with 60lbs spring..Honestly stock was not bad for off roading. sure 19" is a wee small but I adapted..
I got the xxx coming in today. Remember to yeet it for me.
@@CycleCruzawrong
Two things:
First I wanted to make sure you knew that the fat tires really slow you down on the road. So, if you wanted to increase your mph on the road, switch to skinny tires like you see on tour de France road bikes.
Second, I was wondering what you do to clean the sweat from the armpits of your CE armor vest. Thanks
It depends on what you want to do with your Sur Ron X. I wanted it as a dual sport but mostly ride off-road, the small skinny cheap wheels it comes with are terrible off-road. The much bigger FAT tires on my E-Bike are amazing on both road and street. You can always make the Sur Ron X faster with a bigger battery and controller if you want more power.
As far as my CE Armor jacket, the arm pits are a breathable mesh, it flows lots of air throughout the jacket, the most airflow out of any jacket ever. You will not have any sweat and I rode with mine down in the Georgia humid summer heat.
@@CycleCruzachange to shinko 241 and increase sprocket to 52T. It's the best dual sport setup without a power upgrade.
Why would anyone buy a sur-ron for cardo im confused how that has anything to do with a sur-ron. The fun of a sur-ron is being able to ride everywhere, and nobody keeps the stock tires on the sur-ron i love it
Arent you getting tired riding it in the forest for a few hours?:)
@@Alex-gn6xb no I have a yamaha street bike two totally different rides but I like doing both and on single track I hardly ever hit full speed on the surron. the fun of the surron is going everywhere with out anyone caring. I can't do that with my motorcycle
@@2wheelsSinCity ride everywhere you want - sounds cool! I don’t want to have any trouble on my way to the trail or on that trail:)
what state do you live in? I’m in Missouri and guess if I’ll have any troubles with law enforcement
I'm in las vegas so it's all desert outside of the city police haven't bothered me riding to the trails about 5 miles from my house
wtf?? 😂 that front suspension “comparison” was the single worst comparison I have ever seen. “Look at this shit!” Proceeds to do absolutely nothing 😂
Haters gonna hate. My 2022 Surron is mostly stock except for pegs , supermoto wheels and controller and I love it. It gets more use than my Porsche Cayman and I get to work quicker on the Surron because there are no rules, ie; wrong way down one way streets, blasting through red lights, bike paths, sidewalks, off road. It's amazing what you can get away with.
I've actually owned my 2023 Surron LBX for about 6 months now and i will say the stock bike wasnt too too bad, i had the DNM forks on mine and im 6' 6" 260lbs so the stiffer suspension was needed for me, but there were definitely some upgrades that had to be done. Like the tires, pegs and brakes, but owning a Surron is not a cheap hobby for sure, i am already $9500 into my bike. but i also use it for doordash/ UberEATS and its also the only form of transportation i own, its what i use to commute to work and run errands.
Lmao @9.5k. Should a gotten a Stark Varg
Really, my main point is you have to mod the Surron for it to be proper and it will cost you more than I paid for my brand new MT-07 last year. To me it is not worth it but if I did delivery and commuting like you that it makes more sense. I do charge my Surron with solar power so I get free transportation, that is what I love about it the most.
go for the chibattery 60/75 and KO controller. I'm planning those on my Talaria.
@@Backtrap1943where can you get those. Are those OEM or 3rd party? I'm gonna get a Talaria 3x soon and wanna know what additions to get
@@Ratm4life dont get a xxx get an mx3/4. You will want a bigger battery later. Also don't get K.O. horrible customer experience, and huge haters on forums and discords and bad controller. Asi bac stress tests confim it. look it up.
Did you just re upload this video again with different title i watch this rant 4 months ago lol 😂
Oh no... CC busted? Stay relevant, review EUC or......not 😢
You wanted to trash talk the surron and push ur review on the other bike. So basically it's a YOU problem. Stop comparing electric motos with bicycles my dude. Honestly this review makes no sense. You seem super biased yet you bought a SurRon. Did they trick you into buying it my dude? Did they tell you you're gonna be doing cardio with them pegs? lmao
Surrons are perfect for urban/suburban exploration and adventure. And they are very capable on trail. Been riding mine daily since 2020. If you can’t climb stairs on a Surron that’s on you guy. Not the Ron. Even with stock tires. Also as far as visuals, looking at my Surron never fails to give me or others a smile. That other bike your promoting? Not so much.
Just what I was thinking. I live in Donora Pennsylvania google maps it hill sooo steep they have sidewalks with railings vs sidewalks lol I've climbed two blocks worth of steps on my sur ron LBX on my STOCK sur ron LBX I've sent it over crazy jumps ride it in loose dirt and gravel.
And since I modded my stock suspension (fast ace front dnm rear) with heavier springs than a few other things to the front forks about $400 I think it's even better.
Although now that I got the 2023 Talaria sting R mx4 my sur ron is the red headed step child ATM I'm going to fully rebuild it after 5,289 miles on the mostly stock parts it could use the overall..
Also should point out my sur ron is a daily ride! Rain snow all year around I ride it.
Have rain gear snow gear heated grips that are tie on with a USB plug easy to remove or put on heated seat cushion that straps on. And more it's never let me down have yet to find a trail that I could not conquer. Maybe a hill or two off road but they was at like a 70% incline loose dirt and gravel
@@miguel360kmc put a 64t sprocket on and you won’t find a hill you can’t climb
@@LatchkeyKidX I have one I have a few different ones. But there is 2 different hills I have yet to complete but my yz125 can't do it either my 250 and 450 eat them up
I actually haven't taken my Talaria MX4 there yet. It might have the right balance between weight and power and lets me change the gear ratio digitally now I'm thinking I have no choice but to hit the spot today 😂
Have you ever rode a fat Tire e-bike? The ride quality on those big FAT wheels on both street and off-road is way better than that shitty stock Surron wheels. As far as power and torque, that is the only thing that makes the Sur ron fun, you have to pour lots of money into it for it to be proper, the suspension is a pogo stick.
My bone stock talaria sting r is excellent off road!! Jumps good but it does bottom out on big jumps so I’m gonna upgrade the suspension but the bike fuckin rips
A 72v Surron is more fun than any motorcycle I’ve ever owned including a 2019 KTM 500 supermoto. I’m also guessing you never put the proper PSI in the front forks, it comes low from factory and needs to be pumped up to around 125-150 psi
I don't have the air forks version but their stock forks are trash. You have to upgrade the Sur Ron X.
yeah you do, you pump air 140 psi in the oil one. Oil is gonna come out the bottom. you can avoid that with an air clamp.
@@Backtrap1943lmao
Ive got both type of bikes. Fat tyred ebike and a talaria sting r mx4. Since the talaria arrived the ebike has had nothing on its seat apart from dust...... 600ks in 2 months on the talaria and love it more i ride it.
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If you have this opinion of a surron I think that it's better you don't have one. Couldn't be easier to operate, repair or maintain. But I get it, things are hard
Sur Ron x is going to send you a check...to keep quiet
Don't sell out !
😂 Naw I'd rather keep it 💯.
So basically what you’re saying is it’s a skill issue; You can’t ride off road with the surron because it’s too hard for you, whereas the other bike does most of the work for you with those big ugly wheels.
You hit a root sideways when you trail rode the surron causing the front to slide it even happens on actual dirt bikes me and all my buddy's have done it. user error not the bike!
One is a electric dirtbike and the other is a e-bike. Guess which is which. It's also important that you know how to ride a dirt bike.
first of all that is not a mountain bike that is a fat tire ebike. and secondly saying that ebike does better off road than a surron x is like saying my bmx is better for the tour de france or sm shit.
Surrons & Talarias have their place with a great following. You can mod these Bikes from Street to Moto Cross and not too many bikes have that capability ?? Too each their own I guess ??
I like your enthusiasm. Got my Sur Ron X a couple of days ago. One ride so far. I have 3 acres to ride it on. Not a lot of room, but it will be fun. The Sur Ron X doesn't need a lot of room and it's silent. I ride dual sport and find it hard to enjoy riding on the street these days with all the traffic. I like the dirt riding part. This will allow me to ride right here at home on my property since it's electric. The big difference between your two e-bikes to me is the fact that the pedal bike you have is legal ANYWHERE a bicycle can go, and the Sur Ron is technically legal NOWHERE. You can ride that pedal bike with peace of mind. No one is going to yell at you, police will not hassle you. The thing is with me is, I dig the Sur Ron. It's just too cool looking plus it pulls wheelies. I'm sorry but I can't get as excited about the pedal bikes even though I'd probably enjoy one. That's my thoughts. Great channel.
Put the fat tire suspension on the front SurOn and do a mash up of things you like onto the SurOn to make it better for budget cheap from existing stuff you own already that could be a build series
Did you sell it already? This isn't a great sales pitch, Cruza👀😄
Life isnt about reselling its about fun experiences think u need to wreck on your bike to feel that feel i was in coma 11 days from a sports bike 2020 zx6r not my fault and u preach yourself that the streets arent great and the surron is the most fun ive had. Spend a little money sorry u made a poor choice with the property you bought colorado prices just keep going up. 😅😂😅😂
Dude! Be careful, you need more protective gear on! Tip:wear 2 helmets. Double the protection.
😂😂
Makes sence coming from a guy who wears tap out
You have a very good point about bang for buck and versatility. ....... you really have to think hard about what you going to use it for before you blow loads of money on something that isn't that great compared to something 4 times cheaper......good video x
Lol dude that $1,000 bike is a disposable e-bike it will last about as long as a bic lighter 😅
If you counting pennies than sure the sur ron might not be for you. Even still wasting a $1,000 on random clone bike 🚲 is not only a waste but irresponsible.
There is no such thing as a good $1,000 ebike lol maybe it's good or even great out the box sure I'll give them that but without a doubt 100% fact it will break within the 1st 500-1,000 miles.
I been riding MTB BMX motorcycles dirtybikes for 20+ years I was 6 when I got my 1st mini bike which I learned to ride before bicycles. I've worked as a bicycle messager I've even competed in the Red Bull rampage twice I was a sponsored dh MTB rider for a minute and was on my way to Poland to competitively stunt sport bikes my freestyle riding skills are next level. But I ran from the cops 1 time to many (over a dozen times) on the same bike took a year they tracked me down and I lost my licenses for 10years still road anyway only to add 5 more years to that suspension now the last 8 years I've learned my lesson (kind of but not really) I've taken to alternative means of travel I've spent well over 50k the last 8 years on different bikes from building motorized bicycles loads of fun but not reliable to building my own e-bikes and e scooters. I've bought dozens of factory bikes so far I've yet to find a more versatile and capable and better priced bike as the sur ron and the Talarias mx3 mx4 and XxX which are my favorite and bike I recommend. The XxX may be the one for you it's only $3,200 and is faster than the sur ron LBX.
If you want real recommendations on e-bikes I know them all
@@miguel360kmc well exactly you seem to have alot of money .......sorry we all don't
@@locostse7en I'm blue collar work 55hrs average a week.
When I was starting out sure I wasted money on $1,000 e-bikes like I said I learned this all the hard way.
They do not last or hold up over time simple as that.
The sur ron mine has over 5,000 miles on it and still rides as good as the day I got it
@@miguel360kmc yep cool ...... and if I could afford one I would get one
My boy did a serious surron X build. He has WP suspension from the KTM 150, Fox rear shock. 72 v with a 12-speed controller. It's pretty crazy. IMO not worth 11K lol but to each their own. He can get about 70 miles though
Cool! He'll take a serious hit on resale value if he ever decided to sell it. He could have bought a brand new 450 dirt bike and had money for mods for 11k. It wasn't worth it to me.
If He's got a RUclips channel and he's making content off of the mods and the bike, then it might be worth it
Or if you live in an area surrounded by Karen's, the surron is way more fun than a dirtbike. If I pulled out my yz450 the cops would be called immediately, the surron on the other hand I can rip all night anywhere and never had a problem.
I've also got a 2008 yzf r1 and to be honest I pretty much only ride the surron 😂😂😊
Is there any "low cost" option that's similar to a Surron ?
$1500 price range?
The other e-bike that cyclecruza is riding looks pretty good
@@samknowsthefacts4709 I live in a suburb HOA loaded with Karens and they never bother me but I don't ride around my own neighborhood, just to leave. Also, when I ride my 450 supermoto in hoods I never stay long long, I'm out before any cops can come. Bust a wheelie and gtfo. lol The Sur Ron is innocent looking and more Karen friendly for sure. lol Just don't go too far and run out of power.
Just like they say at the New York Stock Exchange: Sell, Sell, Sell, Sell !!! I’m sure some over enthusiastic teenager would get it. 🤣 👍🏾
I have a worked sur-Ron. They are for people like me that live in neighborhoods with alot of Karen’s. (Long Island NY). I can sneak through the trails unnoticed.
🤣 Let's hope your prospective Craig's List or whatever buyer doesn't see this video CC !!!
I looked at the Sur Ron pretty hard when my Rad Rover had a tough time with hill climbs, but got a high performance upgrade on the Rover instead. Glad I did.
do you think electric bike is future?
Bought a Nireeka Revanant 1000, its decent. Took over 7months to receive it though, its good on the road and okay in the woods.
First baby 🤘Wheels Hi CycleCruza Great video always enjoy watching you and supporting your channel. Keep up the great work brother.🫡🥇
Hey good to see you! I hope all is blessed your way!
Yo CC you want to have some fun get yourself a arrma kraton 8s Or a Traxxas xmaxx 8s.....wild fun.. my kraton (K8S) runs on 12s now. It's a monster. It can pull a grown man in a wagon at like 25mph 🤣🤣🤣 it's a blast. I use it during the off season ( winter) and it's insane.
Dang!
@@CycleCruza they aren't cheap. But bro if u like electric stuff. These are the way to go. I have both the K8S and xmaxx and they are amaizng. Upgrades are endless. U can do crazy things with these I've taken my xmaxx in mud holes where I've seen quads stuck. It went right through it. Same for my K8S that's done hill climbs/jumps that would blow ur mind mind.
SUR RON are perfect for city riders/urban. Surron is also great for those people who want like a grom but don't have a motorcycle license. I was going to get a SURRON but since I got my license might as well get a grom or z125 but I would still get a surron if I get a great deal.
I’ve had a z125 pro back in 2019. Those things are such a blast. Learned how to wheelie on it. Just recently Copped the sting r so I can learn balance point wheelies without dropping my zx6r actually 😂
You can get the sur ron legal it's tricky but doable
Just don't go too far from home and run out of power or you 'll be stranded.
Talaria Sting R with stock suspension is bro. Not sure if you’re tried it but it 💩 on a stock surron.
Surron and Talaria bikes are a different ride tho. You can’t really compare it to that e-bike.
I tried talking to a Sur Ron dealer at a bike show and he couldn't be less interested in selling to me. I couldn't even get a number for a test ride
Saved you from a wasting money.
haha wack take , that hub ebike is junk, keep taking it off road , it will break.
Kaniwaba Pedal Kit for the Sur Ron gives you power as well as cadence sensing, and way better than the trash stock sur ron pedal kit
When u figure that thing is about half as expensive as your 450 but about 1-10th the machine. Totally not worth it
Surron on 10x the fun of a 450 though and far more usable and versatile for daily use
@LatchkeyKidX any bike. hell you can get a used grom and a mountain bike for the price on that fuckin thing
@@alphacapo no way in hell I would trade my Surron for a grom lol
@LatchkeyKidX 99 out of a hundred people would. I'd say your a minority
Check out the Talaria Sting R. Better than the Sur Ron
Eh same bike with gears. They put the cheapest components on these bikes. I wish I could get my $4200 back.
@@CycleCruzanot at all 😂
@@CycleCruzathat just is complete bullshit, also, no offense but you compared two completely different bikes for the worst possible take.
Wow my dude how much did they pay u? Hope it was worth alienating the fans of your channel. So sad
This is an obvious comparison. But some people want cool over functionality. I didn’t waste my money. When I drop, I’ll get a real motorcycle.
Did you ever think of buying a legit electric dirtbike, I know KTM sells one and I saw one which actually had gears. The plus side on those they are actual dirtbikes.
And it be interesting for content cuz I dont see any other motovlogger really have one
Ariel rider grizzly, mighty apex, talaria are all worth checking out.
If all you are worried about getting a workout you might as well just keep that ugly fat tire bike and sell all your other bikes too right? lol This review cracks me up.
Thanks for sharing! You saved me $3k
If you want cardio, buy a normal mountain bike -_- Your comparing apples to oranges, the surron isnt meant to be a replacement for a mountain bike, its meant to go off road or on the streets, its an electric dirt-bike, the electric mountain bike your glazing is meant to be a mountain bike, the surron isn't.
$4,200 sur ron 🆚 $2,000 for one of the better built China 250cc & say $500 in part upgrades down the road when things wear out.
I know I know a $2000 China 250cc isn't nearly as good as a Yamaha 250 that 4 times more. But is a decent bike for $2k if you know how to take care of it & diy fix...$2k China bike is better than $4k Sur Ron China bike.
To damn expensive for what it is! If I'm gonna shell out 10k it's gonna burn liquid dinosaur bones in the process 😤
I would NEVER buy a Sur Ron X. You buy it then upgrade it and before you know it you spent enough to buy something like a MT09. It's ridiculous imo. I mean which would you rather have as a fun bike Sur Ron X or a Grom? It be the Grom for me.
💯
It'd be $1500 China grom clone for me.
I have a Grom and a Surron. Personally I have more fun on my Surron. It’s more versatile.
Those tires don't mean and do anything yeah they will go over rocks but pop over a radial in middle of street have intheair 45mph ebike with 26x4.75 tires they pop just like any other bike
Surrons are fun for certain riding and riders looks like you dont really do that type of riding.
awesome video! ⚡️
Nothing says cardio workout like an electric assist device? NOT!
The sur ron skinnier tires will work better in the snow
Any person that knows anything about cycling will tell you a fat tire is exclusively for the Antarctic. But a trail bike bro😅
am I the only one who realizes that this is a commertail? he is coplaining about no pedals but if he orded it with knowlede or at least lookked at a picture of it he would know.
Surron destroys that 750w fat tire ebike.
You talk about cheap parts being on the Surron which I partly agree with but you act like the fat tire bike has good parts sure thing bro..
Okay here we go
Give me a state of the art electric bike for $1,500 or it's not worth it
I would give your crappy Surron to me to ease your suffering and trauma.......
Ay ay the talaria is wayyy better than the surron don’t compare lmao
Tap out? U train?
🤷♂️ you selling it ?
Upgrade. Makes the bike way better
Big trucc on 2 wheels (chanel), love that suron
guys hes just trying to sell his bike
bro bought a motorcycle and hes mad its motorcycling
😂😂
To be honest it is bullshit xD if you want to talk about cardio go get regular bicycle not ebike, unless you ride those heavy tires w/o moto support you burn nothing. I can agree with you that stock surron is far from perfect, thats correct.
It’s a city killer, wheelie machine ! That’s it!!!
Who TF rides those shitty stock wheels and tires. Buy some 21/18 combo. There's the rub... figure it out.
I got the onyx rcr
Where’s the talara? Oh yeah too broke to have one haha
Bwahahahahahhahaha you wanna know how i know your lying? Cuz your lips are moving 😂
It's called upgrade
Definitely some sort of promotion or sponsorship
What did I just watch 😂
Man, I man love man your bikeman man,man man,man oh wow man
All i have to say about this video is BRUH.
Can I have it then? 🙏 😅
You are out of your mind 😂😂😂 sponsored much?
lol love your commentary
L take
EUC cyclecruza
blah blah, complaining
Skill issue
You’re talking total rubbish. Not a very good rider either.
LOL
I paid $2200 for my fz07
Not paying 4300 for a battery bike
Anyone want to buy my fz for $100000000000
I wish I could get my $4200 back, I'll be lucky to get 2k out of it.
sell it then! I'll give you$2K.
2 foot deep creek? On a 26” tire bike! All I saw was 2 inch deep water. You sure you was reading feet and not inches?
I think this was an advertisement for that cheap bike. Awful review man
Gayest review on youtube.
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