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For the humans that actually want to be alive yes. But most do not want to live, they want to be slaves because it's comfortable for them not to think for themselfs.
@@SpencerScottPugh Samsung Galaxy A series and S series phones parental controls are fairly easy to use, anyways the thing I would miss the most on the Wisephone is the S Pen.
@Oldasianguy that is BS. apps are LITERALLY spending millions on thinktanks to make apps as addictive as possible. tech addiction is a massive systemic and growing issue. it´s not an individual issue if it´s caused by systemic issues.
This is what we need in a dumb phone: - Concert tickets (because a lot of these a-hole vendors don’t allow paper tickets anymore) - Uber/Lyft for transportation - Maps (just in case you get lost) - Text - Calls - Music/ Podcasts Basically a phone where you cant have social media or internet browsing…..
Exactly!! I want to be able to do a bit more than the lightphone can do for when I need it, and have a larger battery to reap the benefit from an eink screen. Ultimately something like the Hisense a9 but with support for US bands would be my dream phone.
For some reason, as popular as it seems the mini iphones were, they just werent selling... I think mkbhd just made a video about the end of the small smart phones. I did love the 12 mini!! Knowing this company started with the idea of phones for kids, i would assume it's not out of the question in future iterations to make smaller form factors. We will see!
What I hate nowadays is that almost for every purchase or service I use, I need to download an app for. I have to have an app for my gym membership (and they cannot accomodate otherwise, I already asked), for getting coupons for the supermarket I go to (they went paperless years ago), bank app (I have to identify myself on the app, even if I wanna log in through my laptop) etc. It's not that I have issues with social media like others. I have issues with life changing to think that everyone has and need to use smartphones.
Weird. I am surrounded by gyms that don't have this requirement. My supermarket still has a physical card you can scan, and coupons that I can print out, if I bothered to. None of my banks requires a smartphone to use their website. You're ether very unlucky, or missing something.
@Oldasianguy - Exactly. The world is huge and varied. So if you have the perception that all the businesses near you require a smartphone, you should consider not giving them your business, and instead broaden your horizons to find those that are less elitist.
While I completely agree with you, I also think that when big changes happen in a society, like the invention of the car for example, it causes a stir in those who don't want to see that change coming. I personally think having apps for everything is ridiculous. I hate how I have to have a smartphone if I want to get a drink at Starbucks and earn stars for my purchase, when only a few years ago, I could use a physical card to do the same thing. Now, it's no more physical card. But at the end of the day, these changes are here, and are likely here to say, so it is what it is. I have a dumb phone and an iPod touch, which is my at home device, so I can have freedom from the smartphone everywhere else in my life. But if I want to earn rewards on an app or something, I'd have to bring my iPod with me, meaning, I won't have it on me all of the time, so that's my solution for now.
This should have both if they add Spotify to the tool drawer. I haven't asked the CEO yet, but I imagine Spotify would be totally acceptable... at least in some way shape or form. The tool drawer is what is going to make this device much different from other dumb phones out there.
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After doing much research personally I’m not a fan of most of these non smartphones that still looks like a smartphone. I think even though the light phone with its lack of features has set the tone for what a non smartphone should be in terms of design and functionality. I’m especially a fan of the e-ink display and can see that being the future of displays. I appreciate your reviews.
I've been researching switching to a dumb phone for months, but ultimately, I think I'm going to have to keep my dumbed-down smartphone, because things like tickets, restaurant menus, etc are all digital now. I've found it just about as effective to turn my iPhone screen to black and white, DELETE all unnecessary apps, and that's it. The phone becomes so boring in black and white, I don't even want to look at it. But I still have my family's group chat, good quality photos for memories, and transportation and navigation, all of which I need.
Same I loved my 5s. I had it for so long. When it was considered old I was on it and now I’m on the 8, which imo is good I probably will never upgrade or anything. It’s a used phone that I got for really cheap and I love it. If it breaks I’ll probably go for an android next, like literally the cheapest one available as long as I can have RUclips and music 😂
The only argument he makes, that I actually agree with is photos! Most Dumb phones have a stripped down camera and photo app, and if your kids are small and cute, they won't be that cute forever.. so take plenty of pics! No, you don't need video chat. No, you don't need a weather app. No, you don't need group chats, all group chats suck always. If you want to talk to someone call them and talk to them. Like a normal human being, it's better for your mental health.
I feel this way about my pets because they’re not going to be here as long as me and I want to save every cute moment with them, so having a camera is super important to me.
Does it let you share your location to friends or family for safety reasons? Also, I live in NYC, busses can come early or late. How accurate are their real time predictions for bus schedules?
I don't know about the bus schedules... might be something they include in their tool drawer. I can say there is location sharing. Though I dont know how closely it will be to Apple's find my in terms of usability. It is mostly geared toward seeing where your kids are in the parent portal!
A wallet function for bank cards would be good. I think i want Spotify and whatsapp as i use them daily but can see the argument for against these as they are distractions.
I definitely don't want to subscribe to use an operating system...$7 a month to use the OS?... Good idea though... Headed in a bad direction... Thanks for the review and awareness...
Makes sense to me. It made them able to lower the price of the phone itself. You could look at it as a payment plan if you want, which most phones come with anyway through various carrier options.
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I have used a dumb phone for a few years and would not go back to a smart phone but the only thing I miss is the on screen key board for texting and a decent camera will a full screen viewing. I refuse to be tracked and traced by google.
The problem with this is: sometimes some "social media" are genuinely necessary for communication. Mainly, discord and whatsapp, especially for people in LDRs. Also, sometimes its genuinely necessary to look up random information in day to day life. And, I dont think its a completely terrible idea to include SOME limited version of the app store for some additional customization. most likely through sideloading.
So interested in this! Thanks for the review! Truly a “distraction free” phone! Wouldn’t change a thing. Can help remove A TON of anxiety and help us to realize we don’t really need a lot of the things we use on smart phones.
Yeahp. Gotta pay for one of their plans to use the phone. It has a lot to do with the maintenance more than the phone plan itself but I understand some folks don’t like that idea
since in the US iphone 14 and beyond went to the digital sim card, I guess you can't get beyond an iphone 13 if you wanted to switch back and forth? (I previously used to just pop the sim card out of my iphone xs max and put it in my light phone and I loved that) but now in the US with e-sim cards, guess we can't do that any more? curious your thoughts as I noticed you did have an iphone 13 which I know stil has a sim card and tray
Hope I’m not too late to this video so I can get a response but does this phone allow apps like signal? I’m in the military and I have to be in group chats with my leadership. The only way I’d be able to get a phone like this is if it can download the signal app
I love this idea, but problem is when I need to order bolt / uber, buy ticket to bus, find open hairdresser, split bill with friend in restaurant on revolt or add contact to google or receive email.
Some of these I wouldn't think would be necessary like email! Personally! But, the second phone will have the tool drawer of apps the company vets. Some of these might be included!
My biggest question is why is it so big? Without RUclips, browser, or games, why shouldn't it then be more compact? That's sortve a deal breaker for me.
When I first discovered dumb phones this wise phone 2 is exactly what I was dreaming a proper minimalist phone should be except it should have a blackberry keyboard or atleast a 2cnd version that does. The whole tool/app thing is perfect, so u can still request productivity apps, or something like a light control app like philips hue or wiz, whatsapp, waze, google maps. If I could just request from them exactly what apps I want n they custom make it with those apps, n if I need more they can access the device n add it in or remove.
I wish they would include spotify. But I realize that they market this phone like other "dumb phones", which is "no ads". If they incorporate spotify, you'll experience ads as the consumer, even if you're a premium user or on a family plan. You'll experience ads from podcasts for sure. And non paying Spotify users would experience ads regularly throughout their session. So I'm not sure how they would please the consumer without compromising their purpose with this product.
It helps lower the cost of what would probably be another $1000 device. I see it as a built in payment plan. That and it helps the small team of developers continue their work on making it a great device and software over the coming years.
@@SpencerScottPugh Nah. The CHEAPEST plan, which comes with minimal data, is $25/month which adds up to $300/year. That means in two years time you've paid $600 for a plan that sucks compared to what you could get from Mint Mobile. You have to pay $70/month for mobile hotspot, an essential feature for many, which means you're paying more than $800 the first year alone. No matter how you slice it, this is a raw deal for most people. If they wanted to give people the OPTION of using their plan, like Light Phone does, that would be fine. But forcing people into it is scammy. Hell, if it really is to keep the cost of the phone down (which I sincerely doubt), give people the option to pay more to not be locked into these bad phone plans!
@@SpencerScottPugh A payment plan eventually gets paid off; this plan forces you to pay in perpetuity. Plus, the cheapest plan is $24, and it's $70 to get mobile hotspot which many people, especially digital minimalists, would consider a necessity and that means you're paying almost $1,000 in the first year alone. Light Phone has a phone plan, but it's optional. That would have been fine, but forcing people into it is an atrociously bad deal. Only way I could see this being justified is if the phone were free.
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Subscriptions help providers kick the can forever... seen it in video games seen it in services... Netflix has been increasing the costs but shittyfiying the service... Subscriptions end up being a ponzi of sorts... or vaporware.
I dont understand why a phone that is deaogned to so so little is larger than an iPhone pro. Part of the reason i want a minimalist phone is to not have a big behemoth of a phone. Off the bat, my main/biggest gripe with this is its size. Also, why cant peolle who want a minimalist phone just get a flip phone or something like a traditional candybar style phone?
I would love a dumb phone not only with Spotify because that is a necessity for me but also be able to use wifi to call and text like most newer Samsungs and iphones especially if your somewhere with no signal and my job requires me to deliver 5-10 stops at a time so id need to be able to add multiple stops at once to the maps and it would have to be as accurate as google or apple maps if not better but other than that this phone would be absolutely perfect
I definitely think this Wisephone is a huge improvement over the lite phone. It seems to be an easier transition to the non-smart devices rather than a painful experience that will take weeks to get used to. I'll be interested to hear your review when the Wisephone II comes out, I think the idea of switching numbers for a weekend is great, and I wonder if there's a cost effective option to have that SIM card and not pay a monthly price for it and just get a "use it when you need it" type of card? Either way, I really like the concept of the phone and the company behind it, might not be a bad first phone for my son when he gets much older lol!
Sounds quite interesting but you didn't consider in the mix the 399 price for the phone AND the carrier cost... Because this phone works ONLY with their carrier service. In theory it is a great cause... Minimalism. In practice it is yet another company that is literally making money over people that can't put a lock on their devices and use a phone as a phone. Which I find borderline insulting because taking advantage of people that have no self control and go for "distraction free" devices (which are crippled devices on purpose...) is like to go after people with a gambling addiction with something that is aimed at taking advantage of their addiction. If the phone was just 399, I would say it is an interesting portable e-reader and a phone; but if you have to pay a fee just to use it as phone; then do yourself a favor, put your phone in silent mode and offline and start gaining control over your tech yourself, instead of give money to a company for a product you don't really need.
Gotta remember the company started with the goal of making safer phones for kids - those who should require supervision and can’t make those kinds of decisions for themselves, yet would like to have a great communication tool with modern tools. I hear you, but it’s not just for social media addicts or something.
Unfortunately cannot be ordered to the UK. I've been looking for years for a dumb phone that has a touch screen keyboard. The only ones accessible with 4G have the slow query keyboard and that's frustrating to use for messaging. WISE Phone is missing a trick by sticking to just a US market. Loads of people outside of the US are looking to pair back digitally.
Does this phone have FaceTime? I love all of the simple and non addictive features. I want one for myself. I also want to buy one for my kid and a wondering if there’s a video call FaceTime feature so that I can check on them. Also is there a phone tracker feature parents can use for their kids?
@SpencerScottPugh understandable but for work purposes it be more useful to me itd be nice if there was a phone with sms made cheap that could utilize the useful parts of the internet such as a simple google seach, emails, google maps, hotspot, weather and certain youtube videos that are deemed educational combine this with a oled screen (similar to lightphone 3) and pre programmed screen time shut off switch to where every 5 hours the screen is used, the screen will not work for 12 hours and every 24 hours the 5 hours resets whether if you even used it for the full 5 this would not only minimize screen time but also maximize battery life because of its forced sleep mode it could only receive messages and calls (that can't be answered) and updates accompanied with a physical offline switch to only receive the calls messages and updates during screen time thus also stretching the battery life but costing you screen time for a more restricted Leniency. If only the perfect smart dumb device existed please someone save us from these screens
Can't put the burden of willpower on the device, it is too easy to go buy a device that can do all the bad stuff. You gotta just delete your accounts on the social media that are negatively affecting you and stop using them. You gotta suffer the itch for a couple weeks to make internal progress and actually get over it. I quit facebook many years ago and kept auto-pressing "f" on my laptop for weeks to open it up. I just had to decide not to go there over and over and for a couple weeks and then was all good. Couldn't imagine going back to facebook now. RUclips comments are my only social media, this site is much harder to quit because it has valuable info, not just social fluff. Been reading more and using a breathing app to chill out and use youtube less. Moderation is harder than abstinence for sure, but worth it sometimes.
Not at this time. However, transit is on our list for apps to look into and we hope to eventually have some transportation apps approved for use in the Tool Drawer.
@@gotechless Ah so it’s just not in the maps app but in a separate app correct? Also thank you so much for answering my question. Saved me some time doing research lol.
@@ambersummer2685 The Wiesphone Maps Tool does not have Transit information but are looking at adding some 3rd party maps apps through the Tool Drawer that would include transit information for those who need it.
See ive been looking for a dumb phone, my problem is im so invested in spotify, i have thousands of songs built up now. I just want like a nomia 3310 or so with spotify and wifi and ill switch from my iphone in a heartbeat
So, WPII will have something called the tool drawer which will be a list of downloadable apps that consumers can suggest be added to the phone - techless will vet them and potentially put them on the phone as optional downloads. I would assume music streaming services will be in there, but we will have to see
@@SpencerScottPugh thanks couldn't find it on the website and that's the bare minimum for a sim dumb phone, so you can cast to your computer etc if you really need to use apps
My list: Cellular Phone Text Working maps Spotify Offline music/audiobook player ChatGPT Sony Camera only on back with physical cover Eink display with high refresh Bluetooth Obsidian Signal Small size and lightweight Chi charging
@@SpencerScottPugh I am too much disturbed from internet activities, now I want to take a break from internet. Which dumb phone should I buy, I mean best simple(buttons) mobile with no internet?
This is like my garmin instinct smart watch, everything you need without the pretty colors and stuff you'll never use, lol.. in settings is there a about phone or what its running? You could always unlock developer settings for more settings 😂
Why not? Is size what makes it dumb or smart? What if I wanna look at photos or videos of my kids on it? Don’t want it to have a 2 inch screen for that!
It’s not really about the size of the phone but what the phone is capable of doing that is what matters to minimalist users and I’m happy I found this video about this phone! Thanks RUclipsr!
Great phone obviously but why don't they offer a smaller phone. I hate big phones. I have tried most of the minimalist phones out there including the wisephone 1 and this includes flip phones. Why would I want a phone this large if I were wanting to NOT use games, movies and Inernet searches?
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regular Google Messenger has a camera at the top for video chat. Does this have any video chat?
let me guess... just like the ghost phone and gabb phone its only for the us. i hate this fuck i feel hopeless
Digital minimalism is the future
We shall see!
For the humans that actually want to be alive yes. But most do not want to live, they want to be slaves because it's comfortable for them not to think for themselfs.
He says while watching RUclips videos.
To be honest, just seems like iOS or Android just needs to come out with an option to block social media apps.
For sure! I know you can mess around with screen time settings and permissions there, but it's a bit of a hassle!
You could just not install them? I don't have social media apps installed on my phone.
@@SpencerScottPugh Samsung Galaxy A series and S series phones parental controls are fairly easy to use, anyways the thing I would miss the most on the Wisephone is the S Pen.
Sadly, unless its a permeant block, that just won't work, as long as the temptation is there, self control will wain after time.
@Oldasianguy that is BS. apps are LITERALLY spending millions on thinktanks to make apps as addictive as possible. tech addiction is a massive systemic and growing issue. it´s not an individual issue if it´s caused by systemic issues.
This is what we need in a dumb phone:
- Concert tickets (because a lot of these a-hole vendors don’t allow paper tickets anymore)
- Uber/Lyft for transportation
- Maps (just in case you get lost)
- Text
- Calls
- Music/ Podcasts
Basically a phone where you cant have social media or internet browsing…..
For sure! That's why im excited for Wisephone II.. they will have some apps in their tool drawer that they will vet!
CAT S22 flip. You can get social media but its so horrible to use that you wont want to use it.
@@SpencerScottPugh Great!
this could be achieved with a custom android OS i think
No gallery?! Wut.
i would like it to be smaller (like iphone 13 mini for example) and also an e-ink desplay. than it would have been perfect.
Exactly what I had in my mind
Exactly!! I want to be able to do a bit more than the lightphone can do for when I need it, and have a larger battery to reap the benefit from an eink screen. Ultimately something like the Hisense a9 but with support for US bands would be my dream phone.
i need a dumb phone based on iphone 5s design
For some reason, as popular as it seems the mini iphones were, they just werent selling... I think mkbhd just made a video about the end of the small smart phones. I did love the 12 mini!! Knowing this company started with the idea of phones for kids, i would assume it's not out of the question in future iterations to make smaller form factors. We will see!
@Shazwani-Iris really loved Iphone 5s. Really handy to hold
What I hate nowadays is that almost for every purchase or service I use, I need to download an app for. I have to have an app for my gym membership (and they cannot accomodate otherwise, I already asked), for getting coupons for the supermarket I go to (they went paperless years ago), bank app (I have to identify myself on the app, even if I wanna log in through my laptop) etc. It's not that I have issues with social media like others. I have issues with life changing to think that everyone has and need to use smartphones.
Weird. I am surrounded by gyms that don't have this requirement. My supermarket still has a physical card you can scan, and coupons that I can print out, if I bothered to. None of my banks requires a smartphone to use their website. You're ether very unlucky, or missing something.
@Oldasianguy - Exactly. The world is huge and varied. So if you have the perception that all the businesses near you require a smartphone, you should consider not giving them your business, and instead broaden your horizons to find those that are less elitist.
@Oldasianguy - Yes, and that's a weird situation to be in.
@Oldasianguy - Yes, yes it is.
While I completely agree with you, I also think that when big changes happen in a society, like the invention of the car for example, it causes a stir in those who don't want to see that change coming. I personally think having apps for everything is ridiculous. I hate how I have to have a smartphone if I want to get a drink at Starbucks and earn stars for my purchase, when only a few years ago, I could use a physical card to do the same thing. Now, it's no more physical card. But at the end of the day, these changes are here, and are likely here to say, so it is what it is. I have a dumb phone and an iPod touch, which is my at home device, so I can have freedom from the smartphone everywhere else in my life. But if I want to earn rewards on an app or something, I'd have to bring my iPod with me, meaning, I won't have it on me all of the time, so that's my solution for now.
i just want a dumb phone that has spotify and bluetooth
This should have both if they add Spotify to the tool drawer. I haven't asked the CEO yet, but I imagine Spotify would be totally acceptable... at least in some way shape or form. The tool drawer is what is going to make this device much different from other dumb phones out there.
just get a cheap mp3 player. most of them have bluetooth feature
@cincogus I seriously think both of those will be in the tool drawer. Definitely keep Techless on your radar for updates there!
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Im on the same boat. I listen to books and podcasts daily.
After doing much research personally I’m not a fan of most of these non smartphones that still looks like a smartphone. I think even though the light phone with its lack of features has set the tone for what a non smartphone should be in terms of design and functionality. I’m especially a fan of the e-ink display and can see that being the future of displays. I appreciate your reviews.
Nice opinion! The light phone for sure intrigued me.. i just dont think e-ink works for phones in its current iteration
I've been researching switching to a dumb phone for months, but ultimately, I think I'm going to have to keep my dumbed-down smartphone, because things like tickets, restaurant menus, etc are all digital now. I've found it just about as effective to turn my iPhone screen to black and white, DELETE all unnecessary apps, and that's it. The phone becomes so boring in black and white, I don't even want to look at it. But I still have my family's group chat, good quality photos for memories, and transportation and navigation, all of which I need.
if there's a dumb phone based on iphone 5s design, imma spend my whole bank account
ABSOLUTE CLASSIC!
Just buy a 5s then. Its software is too old to run a lot of apps
@bombombalu that’s actually a great idea… tons of people say the 5s is the best iPhone ever
Same I loved my 5s. I had it for so long. When it was considered old I was on it and now I’m on the 8, which imo is good I probably will never upgrade or anything. It’s a used phone that I got for really cheap and I love it. If it breaks I’ll probably go for an android next, like literally the cheapest one available as long as I can have RUclips and music 😂
I use the iphone se 2016, with all unnecessary apps deleted, and others blocked by screentime(only my mom knows the code).
The only argument he makes, that I actually agree with is photos! Most Dumb phones have a stripped down camera and photo app, and if your kids are small and cute, they won't be that cute forever.. so take plenty of pics!
No, you don't need video chat.
No, you don't need a weather app.
No, you don't need group chats, all group chats suck always.
If you want to talk to someone call them and talk to them. Like a normal human being, it's better for your mental health.
I feel this way about my pets because they’re not going to be here as long as me and I want to save every cute moment with them, so having a camera is super important to me.
Yeah I never understood why a gallery is a distraction
Does it let you share your location to friends or family for safety reasons? Also, I live in NYC, busses can come early or late. How accurate are their real time predictions for bus schedules?
I don't know about the bus schedules... might be something they include in their tool drawer. I can say there is location sharing. Though I dont know how closely it will be to Apple's find my in terms of usability. It is mostly geared toward seeing where your kids are in the parent portal!
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A wallet function for bank cards would be good. I think i want Spotify and whatsapp as i use them daily but can see the argument for against these as they are distractions.
I definitely don't want to subscribe to use an operating system...$7 a month to use the OS?... Good idea though... Headed in a bad direction... Thanks for the review and awareness...
Oh nooo
It’s still cheaper than any other carrier with the is fee
@@thefernwehbus nahhh its too much
Makes sense to me. It made them able to lower the price of the phone itself. You could look at it as a payment plan if you want, which most phones come with anyway through various carrier options.
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I have used a dumb phone for a few years and would not go back to a smart phone but the only thing I miss is the on screen key board for texting and a decent camera will a full screen viewing. I refuse to be tracked and traced by google.
The smartphone that elementary and high school campuses should only allowed to be carried by students.
might be hard convincing some parents... but I AGREE!!
Best thumbnail ever
lol thanks
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Incredible, honest review brother. Thank you.
Hey I appreciate it man! Thanks for the comment!
The problem with this is: sometimes some "social media" are genuinely necessary for communication. Mainly, discord and whatsapp, especially for people in LDRs. Also, sometimes its genuinely necessary to look up random information in day to day life. And, I dont think its a completely terrible idea to include SOME limited version of the app store for some additional customization. most likely through sideloading.
There is a “tool drawer” which is basically a slimmed down App Store
@@SpencerScottPugh maybe too slimmed down tho?
@@cyborgbob1017 maybe! They take suggestions of apps to add.
@@SpencerScottPugh fair enough
How bad are the EMFs for this phone? I'm surprised the website doesn't mention EMFs at all.
No clue 🤷🏼♂️
This is the phone I've been thinking about for so long. Everything I dreamed of
Yes 🙌🏻 I’m excited for it as well!!
a minimalist phone with nothing except the given features and a payment app as well as spotify would work perfectly
Is the Wisephone 2 water resistant at the same level the new iPhones are? Less gimmicks hopefully means more room for perfection.
Not sure! I'm sure specs are on the website! I would hope it's a bit waterproofed though I'm not around water all that much.
So interested in this! Thanks for the review!
Truly a “distraction free” phone! Wouldn’t change a thing. Can help remove A TON of anxiety and help us to realize we don’t really need a lot of the things we use on smart phones.
Heck yeah! Excited to get my hands on mine and see how it changes my life! 🙌🏻
Calender. Podcast. Weather.
Do I have to pay for the Core plan??? I want to keep my plan and not pay any extra
Yeahp. Gotta pay for one of their plans to use the phone. It has a lot to do with the maintenance more than the phone plan itself but I understand some folks don’t like that idea
@@SpencerScottPugh Pay to use my device?
My main issue with this is you could easily get this exact same experience with an Android launcher downloaded off the play store.
Might have just purchased a Google pixel 4a to try out this idea exactly 😂
since in the US iphone 14 and beyond went to the digital sim card, I guess you can't get beyond an iphone 13 if you wanted to switch back and forth? (I previously used to just pop the sim card out of my iphone xs max and put it in my light phone and I loved that) but now in the US with e-sim cards, guess we can't do that any more? curious your thoughts as I noticed you did have an iphone 13 which I know stil has a sim card and tray
I bought a separate sim and number. Just told family and friends my dumb phone number and to text/call that one on weekends!
Hope I’m not too late to this video so I can get a response but does this phone allow apps like signal? I’m in the military and I have to be in group chats with my leadership. The only way I’d be able to get a phone like this is if it can download the signal app
Possibly! I know they are adding the tool drawer which might include other messaging apps. Haven’t heard which ones yet!
I love this idea, but problem is when I need to order bolt / uber, buy ticket to bus, find open hairdresser, split bill with friend in restaurant on revolt or add contact to google or receive email.
Some of these I wouldn't think would be necessary like email! Personally! But, the second phone will have the tool drawer of apps the company vets. Some of these might be included!
Audio book and Spotify added to it would be cool.
Maybe in the tool drawer!
THIS IS A SCAM!! They send you a Samsung A15 5G which is $149! This company has created NO phone!!! BEWARE!
Quite a shame 😔
My biggest question is why is it so big? Without RUclips, browser, or games, why shouldn't it then be more compact? That's sortve a deal breaker for me.
First gen? Battery? Looking at the photos you take with that big camera? I would assume it being first gen is the main reason.
Can you invert the colors and make the background black?
Not currently
When I first discovered dumb phones this wise phone 2 is exactly what I was dreaming a proper minimalist phone should be except it should have a blackberry keyboard or atleast a 2cnd version that does. The whole tool/app thing is perfect, so u can still request productivity apps, or something like a light control app like philips hue or wiz, whatsapp, waze, google maps. If I could just request from them exactly what apps I want n they custom make it with those apps, n if I need more they can access the device n add it in or remove.
EXACTLY. Get excited. I am!
I viewed your older videos. I can’t remember if you tried summing down you iPhone.
Yes! I’ve had a couple of those!
I wish they would include spotify. But I realize that they market this phone like other "dumb phones", which is "no ads". If they incorporate spotify, you'll experience ads as the consumer, even if you're a premium user or on a family plan. You'll experience ads from podcasts for sure. And non paying Spotify users would experience ads regularly throughout their session. So I'm not sure how they would please the consumer without compromising their purpose with this product.
Good point 🤔
It needs audio books and an eReader
Do the messages work normally? Like with two factor authentication?
You won’t be able to open a link but yes you will be able to receive 2FA messages
Damn it's not available in Canada!! After watching your review I was hovering over the preorder button but damn that's a bummer.
Ahhhh bummer. maybe some day!
When will this be available in Norway?
Not sure! 🤔
Wisephone forcing you sign up for a costly subscription through them is a nonstarter. EXTREMELY dumb move on their part
It helps lower the cost of what would probably be another $1000 device. I see it as a built in payment plan. That and it helps the small team of developers continue their work on making it a great device and software over the coming years.
@@SpencerScottPugh Nah. The CHEAPEST plan, which comes with minimal data, is $25/month which adds up to $300/year. That means in two years time you've paid $600 for a plan that sucks compared to what you could get from Mint Mobile. You have to pay $70/month for mobile hotspot, an essential feature for many, which means you're paying more than $800 the first year alone. No matter how you slice it, this is a raw deal for most people. If they wanted to give people the OPTION of using their plan, like Light Phone does, that would be fine. But forcing people into it is scammy. Hell, if it really is to keep the cost of the phone down (which I sincerely doubt), give people the option to pay more to not be locked into these bad phone plans!
@@SpencerScottPugh A payment plan eventually gets paid off; this plan forces you to pay in perpetuity. Plus, the cheapest plan is $24, and it's $70 to get mobile hotspot which many people, especially digital minimalists, would consider a necessity and that means you're paying almost $1,000 in the first year alone. Light Phone has a phone plan, but it's optional. That would have been fine, but forcing people into it is an atrociously bad deal. Only way I could see this being justified is if the phone were free.
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Subscriptions help providers kick the can forever... seen it in video games seen it in services... Netflix has been increasing the costs but shittyfiying the service...
Subscriptions end up being a ponzi of sorts... or vaporware.
I dont understand why a phone that is deaogned to so so little is larger than an iPhone pro. Part of the reason i want a minimalist phone is to not have a big behemoth of a phone. Off the bat, my main/biggest gripe with this is its size. Also, why cant peolle who want a minimalist phone just get a flip phone or something like a traditional candybar style phone?
it looks terribly unresponsive as you are tapping it ... this killed it for me
the only problem i found for this phones like "light phone" or the "wise phone" is the price!!!
Indeed! Little steep, but business is business i guess!
Very cool been looking too switch too a dumbphone but I'll probably hold out until a wisephone 3 unless 2 is amazing.
2 is a Samsung device with their custom os
Impressive. Is there talk to test?
Not with WPI but maybe WPII!
it looks like it should be an e-ink device, which would be baller
Check out minimal phone or mudita kompakt!
I would love a dumb phone not only with Spotify because that is a necessity for me but also be able to use wifi to call and text like most newer Samsungs and iphones especially if your somewhere with no signal and my job requires me to deliver 5-10 stops at a time so id need to be able to add multiple stops at once to the maps and it would have to be as accurate as google or apple maps if not better but other than that this phone would be absolutely perfect
Nice! WPII has all these things! Except maybe WiFi calling… not sure on that
Does the Wise phone show your location; track you? That’s a feature I don’t like with iPhone.
Not sure how they have updated this feature with WPII. Before it would only show a feed of coordinates
@@SpencerScottPugh thank you
This just looks like a smartphone with a dumbphone app activated.
On the surface!
If made a dumb phone with SWIPE TEXTING I would pay a million dollars for it
I definitely think this Wisephone is a huge improvement over the lite phone. It seems to be an easier transition to the non-smart devices rather than a painful experience that will take weeks to get used to. I'll be interested to hear your review when the Wisephone II comes out, I think the idea of switching numbers for a weekend is great, and I wonder if there's a cost effective option to have that SIM card and not pay a monthly price for it and just get a "use it when you need it" type of card? Either way, I really like the concept of the phone and the company behind it, might not be a bad first phone for my son when he gets much older lol!
100% I’ve got high hopes for this company! Thanks Ben!
Sounds quite interesting but you didn't consider in the mix the 399 price for the phone AND the carrier cost... Because this phone works ONLY with their carrier service.
In theory it is a great cause... Minimalism. In practice it is yet another company that is literally making money over people that can't put a lock on their devices and use a phone as a phone. Which I find borderline insulting because taking advantage of people that have no self control and go for "distraction free" devices (which are crippled devices on purpose...) is like to go after people with a gambling addiction with something that is aimed at taking advantage of their addiction.
If the phone was just 399, I would say it is an interesting portable e-reader and a phone; but if you have to pay a fee just to use it as phone; then do yourself a favor, put your phone in silent mode and offline and start gaining control over your tech yourself, instead of give money to a company for a product you don't really need.
Gotta remember the company started with the goal of making safer phones for kids - those who should require supervision and can’t make those kinds of decisions for themselves, yet would like to have a great communication tool with modern tools.
I hear you, but it’s not just for social media addicts or something.
I really wish you didn't need their carrier!! Love the design though
Unfortunately cannot be ordered to the UK.
I've been looking for years for a dumb phone that has a touch screen keyboard. The only ones accessible with 4G have the slow query keyboard and that's frustrating to use for messaging.
WISE Phone is missing a trick by sticking to just a US market. Loads of people outside of the US are looking to pair back digitally.
I know for a fact they’ve been talking distribution overseas. Idk the roadmap though
Check out the Balance Phone out of Spain!
bro could you tell me about a dumb phone that has Bluetooth and Spotify compatibility that is available in India ?
Not sure man 🤔
The Wisephone II is not a device created by the company. It is a Samsung phone!!
Where's the ad disclaimer?
They didn’t pay me 👍
I have a transition phone and a real phone for work .. works perfect
Is that a motorola branded fingerprint scanner at 4:25?
Yes. Wisephone I is a motolora phone running wise OS. Wisephone II will be a brand new device made by techless.
Does this phone have FaceTime? I love all of the simple and non addictive features. I want one for myself. I also want to buy one for my kid and a wondering if there’s a video call FaceTime feature so that I can check on them. Also is there a phone tracker feature parents can use for their kids?
A video call feature may be added in the tool drawer. There is a way to check location on WP I so I think WPII would probably have it as well
@@SpencerScottPugh amazing! and thank you for responding! also the videos is super helpful as well :))
@angelblue52 awesome!!!
And yet i still can't find one that can check emails
I personally don’t want to be able to access email on a dumb device
@SpencerScottPugh understandable but for work purposes it be more useful to me itd be nice if there was a phone with sms made cheap that could utilize the useful parts of the internet such as a simple google seach, emails, google maps, hotspot, weather and certain youtube videos that are deemed educational combine this with a oled screen (similar to lightphone 3) and pre programmed screen time shut off switch to where every 5 hours the screen is used, the screen will not work for 12 hours and every 24 hours the 5 hours resets whether if you even used it for the full 5 this would not only minimize screen time but also maximize battery life because of its forced sleep mode it could only receive messages and calls (that can't be answered) and updates accompanied with a physical offline switch to only receive the calls messages and updates during screen time thus also stretching the battery life but costing you screen time for a more restricted Leniency. If only the perfect smart dumb device existed please someone save us from these screens
I will order the Fish and Chips Phone 2.0, from Baker Carl and Co.
😂😂😂
6:45 Micro USB single-handedly made me close this video. Wise Phone, you guys need to get real.
WPII has usbc
@@SpencerScottPugh That's good! I'll check it out. Thanks for the reply and for the info.
Of course!
Streaming music, email, maps, camera, text, phone. Done.
Looks like you got Wiser.
You could say that. Excited to upgrade to level II at some point 😁
@@SpencerScottPugh Nice. Curious to hear how this one goes for an extended test. So far it seems to be a wise decision.
Put in messaging apps and music apps like spotify. And maybe maps.
Those are essentials. SMS capable is limiting and who uses that now.
Nice! These are what the tool drawer is for!
Can't put the burden of willpower on the device, it is too easy to go buy a device that can do all the bad stuff. You gotta just delete your accounts on the social media that are negatively affecting you and stop using them. You gotta suffer the itch for a couple weeks to make internal progress and actually get over it. I quit facebook many years ago and kept auto-pressing "f" on my laptop for weeks to open it up. I just had to decide not to go there over and over and for a couple weeks and then was all good. Couldn't imagine going back to facebook now. RUclips comments are my only social media, this site is much harder to quit because it has valuable info, not just social fluff. Been reading more and using a breathing app to chill out and use youtube less. Moderation is harder than abstinence for sure, but worth it sometimes.
Awesome work 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Can you find bus schedules in the map app?
Good question! Maybe in the tool drawer on wisehpone II!
Not at this time. However, transit is on our list for apps to look into and we hope to eventually have some transportation apps approved for use in the Tool Drawer.
@@gotechless Ah so it’s just not in the maps app but in a separate app correct?
Also thank you so much for answering my question. Saved me some time doing research lol.
@@gotechless If you guys perfect this phone you will be rich! good luck lads
@@ambersummer2685 The Wiesphone Maps Tool does not have Transit information but are looking at adding some 3rd party maps apps through the Tool Drawer that would include transit information for those who need it.
I have an app called minimalistic which is the same as the wise dumb phone 😂😂
Can you voice-text? And can you attach photos to texts?
Yes and yes
Thanks for sharing brother...
Absolutely! Can’t wait to see how 2024 shapes up for you all!
Does it have a hotspot?
Pretty sure! More info on their website :)
If it didn't have a camera I'd be interested
They have another version on their website without camera
Can you get emails on this phone?
Not sure yet but I don’t think so.
@@SpencerScottPugh ok
You could just simply use an android launcher I forget the name of to have exactly similar effect. Much cheaper that way.
I've seen a few options out there for this concept!
See ive been looking for a dumb phone, my problem is im so invested in spotify, i have thousands of songs built up now. I just want like a nomia 3310 or so with spotify and wifi and ill switch from my iphone in a heartbeat
So, WPII will have something called the tool drawer which will be a list of downloadable apps that consumers can suggest be added to the phone - techless will vet them and potentially put them on the phone as optional downloads. I would assume music streaming services will be in there, but we will have to see
For adult children who have abandoned the concept of self control
Or children children
did adidas sponsor this?
I wish 👍
does it have hotspot?
Yes!
@@SpencerScottPugh thanks couldn't find it on the website and that's the bare minimum for a sim dumb phone, so you can cast to your computer etc if you really need to use apps
My list:
Cellular
Phone
Text
Working maps
Spotify
Offline music/audiobook player
ChatGPT
Sony Camera only on back with physical cover
Eink display with high refresh
Bluetooth
Obsidian
Signal
Small size and lightweight
Chi charging
Does it have internet browsing and social application
nope!
@@SpencerScottPugh I am too much disturbed from internet activities, now I want to take a break from internet. Which dumb phone should I buy, I mean best simple(buttons) mobile with no internet?
Yes, it’s true. This man has no tech.
I love it! But still have wifi! I need the phone like this but no connections with the cloud! 😢
Why no WiFi?
I want a phone that would just give me access to Google, Google maps, Whatsapp and Spotify😢
Hmmm maybe find a particular launcher if you’re on android? Or an app and product like brick for iOS?
Great video! Heads up though, you audio is super echoey my man. Get a better mic or maybe soundproof your studio?
lol my mic wasn’t plugged in all the way… did the best I could with my camera audio 🤦♂️
This is like my garmin instinct smart watch, everything you need without the pretty colors and stuff you'll never use, lol.. in settings is there a about phone or what its running? You could always unlock developer settings for more settings 😂
Nice!
Does the wisephone work in canada?
Good question! Check their website!
A moto g with a basic custom rom and launcher . Im not sure how i feel about this.
WPII is proprietary hardware
When this has WhatsApp and Spotify than shut up and take my money.
Keep watch in the tool drawer feature. They may add those apps!
Why would a "dumbphone" have a 6.5" screen....
Why not? Is size what makes it dumb or smart? What if I wanna look at photos or videos of my kids on it? Don’t want it to have a 2 inch screen for that!
It’s not really about the size of the phone but what the phone is capable of doing that is what matters to minimalist users and I’m happy I found this video about this phone! Thanks RUclipsr!
Great phone obviously but why don't they offer a smaller phone. I hate big phones. I have tried most of the minimalist phones out there including the wisephone 1 and this includes flip phones. Why would I want a phone this large if I were wanting to NOT use games, movies and Inernet searches?
I do think most tech starts big and they go smaller as they iterate. Thats my guess for reasoning
Nah. This is not it.
Okie!
Why i Will buy this if i can delet all app from my onw phone.
It’s about access
I need a gallery!
Just buy a used pixel or iphone and dumb it down. The device is not the issue... its social media. Don't download social media!! Such an easy fix.
Is the screen like an e-reader?
Regular screen!
@@SpencerScottPugh oh well, wish list for the wise phone 3.
If I delete ig, youtube, fb etc… then I’ll have to sit with how boring my life is
lol not always a bad thing. Also could encourage you to get out and do more!
im from india, any idea how can i buy thus phone
Not sure! check their website!