Its not surprising how she’s still a prio ban/pick. If you gave such a hero an ult that can copy the hundreds of different heroes ultimates, you gave them the highest flexibility that you can stretch them for eons. An ultimate like hers is how she’s still broken even under all the nerfs, and a good multi-role user playing her would be devastation.
it's not her ult at all which is very enemy dependent and can come off useless. it's her crazy sustain from passive as well as being able to abuse exps and extremely mobility
The more she gets nerf she will become like Harith before and will be in the forgotten list, so instead of her getting nerf i think it would be best if she get adjusted!
@@コーヒー-k1s you’ll never know because just like Harith he got a HUGE nerf which affected him so much in the meta so because if that happened to her then it will tremendously affect her game play!
I think it would make sense to make her early-mid game hero and make her late game weaker,so she can still contribute,but mostly with her ult and poke.
@@samuelbelko6469 I kinda agree with you, that her mid and late game should lower a bit and my personal opinion is that they should remove her stun so it would make her less op.
Just a reminder, Valentina’s ability to copy ult is just a tip on an ice berg when it comes to her kit. Her sustain, high magic scaling, high outplay potential, high mobility makes her op. You can’t just counter her by picking a hero with useless ult when she uses it.
Bro, Valentina still can get countered. Just use Kagura instead of another heroes with strong ultimates. Eudora, Valir and Harith also are a good counter against Valentina. The funny thing is that if you build necklance of durance and athena shield on a burst mage like Eudora, Kagura or Valir, Valentina will die easier. Trust me, I tried it tons of times and none of them I failed
Back when they first released Valentina... Her second skill targets only enemy players and deals a lot of damage. The 1-2-1-2 combo paired with CD reduce items is so deadly.
Among Zhask and Lylia, Valentina is the only one of my main mages with these features: 1. Lifesteal from passive 2. Her skill combo suits for me 3. Her ultimate that copy target's ultimate 4. Dashing skill
Everytime I see Valentina I always suggest my teammates to pick counter heroes, and not only for her. Such heroes like Valir and Kagura will give Valentina a hard time to farm and just basically destroy her OP copying ultimate. Valir has better range ability like Kagura too, although Valir can be more annoying than Kagura because his early game damage may actually overwhelm Valentina if played correctly. Also any one shot assassin or tricky/sustain fighter is good against her, such heroes like Saber, Hayabusa, Harley, Paquito,Masha. And again, picking heroes with great ultimates + passive power will destroy Valentina since she can't copy passives (Paquito and Saber are smiling on a corner)
naur bcs if the valen player is good than she can also copy valir for instant purify and for me as a mage main with 3k and 200+ match with valen i dont have any problem with saber and haya, harley might be a problem but assasins are not that hard to counter using her, just buy anti cuiras or winter
Fun fact: lesley can crit with goldenstaff but your crit should only come from her passive which change your penetration into crit, normal crit items wont work unless it the penet passive of lesley
So yesterday I played classic with Johnson and an ally Valentina. We faced an enemy Johnson too. Guess what? We drive around the map in 2 cars like a convoy trying to literally gang bang enemies XD It was an epic time!
Valentina is actually in the works of getting nerfed, Elgin made a vid about recent adjustments in the advanced server. I don't remember it too well but one of her skills' damage is being reduced and her ult won't instantly activate both wanwans and minos ults.
Betosky you are my teacher in mlbb I learn a lot of thinks from you and still learning Thank you for your super content Keep going Lots of love from India brother
She's gonna get a nerf in the next patch I guess. When you copy heros like Wanwan or Minotaur ultis you need to mark/charge first like them, and will no longer be able to use the ult immediately.
Its easy to activate minotaur's Ult anyway And no one use Wanwan's ult on Valen unless its a troll build Because on Mage Valen it deals no damage at all lol
2:58 pls beto do post a vid about this everytime i play as a mage our roamer always clear my exp and the fact i always have to remind them not to take it even i have to remind my team jungler about it....
I'm a Valentina main and I rarely Change my Battle spell because Flicker is a game changer depends on the enemy, it gives you a chase or run spell and gives you a Guaranteed Set if u have flicker like atlast khufra mino or other heroes that needed flicker As a multi role player its a good main hero for me You could've done Ruby's Ult flicker for your team since u need a team CC One way to counter a Valentina is to pick a Burt hero to deal with her of course u need a tank to help u cc her to burts her easier
PLEASE YEEEES make a video talking about unexperience and what do and what not to do in every rol. we need some tutorial or how to play in different character and different rols
She got a “nerf” the patch after she came out. They lowered the XP amount she gains but buffed her 1 and made her ult CD lower. She can still be caught out if you don’t dash properly.
I'm new to this game and when I saw her in the hero roster and read about her ult, I was left thinking why was this allowed in the game.... Absolutely madness indeed
That new wanwan mechanism is a buff because Valentina can apply those marks on enemy with both basic attacks and skills so she can just dash everywhere and reveal enemies in the minimap for 5 secs. Back to back.
how about vexana gameplay next, beto? I'm getting a bit hooked on her lately and my build is really focused on CD reduction, especially with fleeting time as my core item. I wonder if you have a different build I can learn from.
With full glass cannon build, she can one hit an enemy with 3-2-1 combo, but cannot with 1-2-3 combo (except when equipped with flameshot). I build her like this and use 3-2-1 combo since the slash from her knight is a great help in cutting some of the enemy's hp and I use sprint as my bs for her. With 1-2-3 combo, the enemy can still avoid the slash from the knight therefore, escaping. But with flameshot, you can burst them down. However, cd reduction build is also very good to always help ur teammates and poke enemies and Vexana is one hell of a menace during teamfights. In addition, you can also take advantage of her passive when poking enemies. Try to hit enemies near low hp minions and boom! They'll either go home or get killed.
I dunno beto but we have tank clear the mid wave right around 1:40 of game timer and mid will go to exp at that very moment so that the exp , mid and tank will be lvl 4 before turtle spawn we use it as an advantage for turtle fight, try doing it with your squad
Don’t worry they are already nerfing her in the next patch. A BIG BIG NERF. I have never rlly been a fan of Valentina bc I never seemed to deal as much damage or get good ults like everyone else 😭 but now Moonton decided that to activate wan wans ult Valentina will have to hit all the weakness marks. For minotour’s ult to be activated, Valentina will have to get a rage bar up. This can break her current place on the meta
That's not even that big of a nerf. If you happen to get lucky where Valentina isn't banned in a match I guarantee you that you won't be facing wan wan considering she is under perma ban status also atm. But regardless of that, having her ultimate nerfed for just 3 heroes isn't going to have much of an impact, if any.
9:31 Only in your hands.... Because in mine, Valentina is useless (sad face) At my actual level, she's never banned Wanwan is 98% of the times.... But I love Valentina lol
If you 1v1 a marksman that has a lower level than you after you copied their ult, don't transform back unless your enemy left becauseyou could use valentina's passive to your advantage and potentially kill your enemy whilst having high health.
When Valentina was first released, she really was too OP. Played 2 matches (classic) using her and got a savage. If thats not OP, I don't know what is. Now, moontoon tune her down a bit but after having her core item, she still prove to be very formidable. BTW, betosky should copy carmila ult instead in this game. Damage output will be insane
@@nws_8791 I feel like if his second skill is so much easier to aim, he will definitely join the meta again, his full combo is enough to kill squishy in early
They could lower her cd for the first skill when using her second skill which reduces the cd of the first skill on hit, I see that it comes pretty dang fast if done right including the dmg.
Nerf her all you want, i got into top 100 global with this mage and is my main since release, i go back to tank whenever she banned, but autopick when available. As far as emblems those are correct however i like to build her differently. Spells yup flameshot or sprint. I approve this.
I swear the devs were too high when they made this hero. She has an INSTANT ultimate which mean she can activate ulti's like Wanwan's without meeting the requirements needed. Glad she's finally getting her FIRST ACTUAL NERF
when play tank i dont touch any minion even if need clear .roam is not helpful(always need lot money to finish build or get item ) i dont remember when i finish match with full items i play long time(11 k matches almost)
Its not surprising how she’s still a prio ban/pick. If you gave such a hero an ult that can copy the hundreds of different heroes ultimates, you gave them the highest flexibility that you can stretch them for eons. An ultimate like hers is how she’s still broken even under all the nerfs, and a good multi-role user playing her would be devastation.
it's not her ult at all which is very enemy dependent and can come off useless. it's her crazy sustain from passive as well as being able to abuse exps and extremely mobility
@@kemii_io706 sure yes, but often times if they go for meta heroes, she can easily copy their ults. And also what u said about her passive
@@IsoyaYasuji Valentina gangsta until an enemy picks Julian
@@ImStalkingYouRN i have always wanted to know, what happens when valentina copies julian?
@@ImStalkingYouRN she can actually copy the enhanced too if timed right before julian does his combo
*"She can copy every ult"*
When in classic you use Valentina and someone in enemy use Valentina and you use ult to each other:
its big brain time
i tried it on training mode, it has no function
@@user-yh2co6vf6q cause they fix it
@@Empouror no, i tried it when she first release
@@user-yh2co6vf6q it work but it useless lol wondering why they fix it if it useless anyways it not like nerf
The more she gets nerf she will become like Harith before and will be in the forgotten list, so instead of her getting nerf i think it would be best if she get adjusted!
Nah, she doesnt get forgotten. Everyone likes the thrills of her ult.
Never.
@@コーヒー-k1s you’ll never know because just like Harith he got a HUGE nerf which affected him so much in the meta so because if that happened to her then it will tremendously affect her game play!
I think it would make sense to make her early-mid game hero and make her late game weaker,so she can still contribute,but mostly with her ult and poke.
@@samuelbelko6469 I kinda agree with you, that her mid and late game should lower a bit and my personal opinion is that they should remove her stun so it would make her less op.
If there is no CC in the enemy team she's an instant win
No matter how many op mages moonton released, I find myself going back to the good old complete set mage : Kagura
Everyone is first until they refresh
99.9% agreed bcuz one guy is really first lol
until they nerf*
Overused
True
Valentina when she said:"Who dares stand against me?"She said it to moontoon that is standing against her with the NERF gun.
Just a reminder, Valentina’s ability to copy ult is just a tip on an ice berg when it comes to her kit. Her sustain, high magic scaling, high outplay potential, high mobility makes her op. You can’t just counter her by picking a hero with useless ult when she uses it.
Bro, Valentina still can get countered. Just use Kagura instead of another heroes with strong ultimates. Eudora, Valir and Harith also are a good counter against Valentina. The funny thing is that if you build necklance of durance and athena shield on a burst mage like Eudora, Kagura or Valir, Valentina will die easier. Trust me, I tried it tons of times and none of them I failed
@@rorro23tk lol. Hope you read my comment. I am kagura main. And I have 6k matches using mages so I know what i am saying.
@@rorro23tk valentina copying = useless ult don't mean s..t, read his comment again
Valentina 🥰 Fredrin was like: let's not give Valentina some Exp and gold so that her passive would be useless 🥰
Back when they first released Valentina... Her second skill targets only enemy players and deals a lot of damage. The 1-2-1-2 combo paired with CD reduce items is so deadly.
dude this mage is too op i got one shoted many times i even tried going full magic def items still burst me down 💀
Betosky's videos = AMAZING!!! Could u play with Bruno please? It's a good hero, but some people don't use it. Greetings from Perú
Don't be greedy for more kills. That's how Epic Comeback happens 😁
She can be played a solide sidelaner or a mage or a good roamer too and she can dominate any lane .
Him: I think I should make a video titled "Stop making this inexperienced mistakes"
Also him: I don't want to end this yet, I need more kills
Among Zhask and Lylia, Valentina is the only one of my main mages with these features:
1. Lifesteal from passive
2. Her skill combo suits for me
3. Her ultimate that copy target's ultimate
4. Dashing skill
An ult like hers should've been given to a fighter instead
@@aquillesroa9558 Yeah! Hope there are fighter/s with Valentina's ultimate 😅😉
She got nerf the second she was out. Her damage was insanely overwhelming, plus her Fear.
Everytime I see Valentina I always suggest my teammates to pick counter heroes, and not only for her. Such heroes like Valir and Kagura will give Valentina a hard time to farm and just basically destroy her OP copying ultimate. Valir has better range ability like Kagura too, although Valir can be more annoying than Kagura because his early game damage may actually overwhelm Valentina if played correctly. Also any one shot assassin or tricky/sustain fighter is good against her, such heroes like Saber, Hayabusa, Harley, Paquito,Masha. And again, picking heroes with great ultimates + passive power will destroy Valentina since she can't copy passives (Paquito and Saber are smiling on a corner)
if you rely on her ult as valen then your a garbage valen user
naur bcs if the valen player is good than she can also copy valir for instant purify and for me as a mage main with 3k and 200+ match with valen i dont have any problem with saber and haya, harley might be a problem but assasins are not that hard to counter using her, just buy anti cuiras or winter
Fun fact: lesley can crit with goldenstaff but your crit should only come from her passive which change your penetration into crit, normal crit items wont work unless it the penet passive of lesley
I'm a Lesley main and I didn't know this, but honestly why would you even consider using golden staff on Lesley
She's one of the OP heroes out there. I would love to practice her more. ☺️
We'll she's getting Nerf i tested her in advance server her damage no more like now
@@ZyanRajput That's fine. As long as she is in good hands she'll be strong.
6:33 If beto had flameshot he would've gotten that maniac LMAO
So yesterday I played classic with Johnson and an ally Valentina. We faced an enemy Johnson too. Guess what? We drive around the map in 2 cars like a convoy trying to literally gang bang enemies XD It was an epic time!
Valentina is super OP!! 💯🔥
Your angela too is super op idol
Valentina is actually in the works of getting nerfed, Elgin made a vid about recent adjustments in the advanced server. I don't remember it too well but one of her skills' damage is being reduced and her ult won't instantly activate both wanwans and minos ults.
When you play her, its like Valentina is random hyper blend in normal mode
I think the best way to nerf is returning her stats that she had at start and making HUGE nerf of gaining exp from hit.
Would you have picked Xavier? Or still have gone with Valentina in this comp
Betosky you are my teacher in mlbb
I learn a lot of thinks from you and still learning
Thank you for your super content
Keep going
Lots of love from India brother
I remember when moonton write a hero that can copy any heroes ult in their April fools post so I thought they were just fooling us.
5:26 Lo I can't with the sound effect😂😂
Valentina:
- Can copy ult
- Has a dash skill
- Has terrified effect
Meanwhile Hanabi:
She's gonna get a nerf in the next patch I guess. When you copy heros like Wanwan or Minotaur ultis you need to mark/charge first like them, and will no longer be able to use the ult immediately.
Its easy to activate minotaur's Ult anyway And no one use Wanwan's ult on Valen unless its a troll build Because on Mage Valen it deals no damage at all lol
2:58 pls beto do post a vid about this everytime i play as a mage our roamer always clear my exp and the fact i always have to remind them not to take it even i have to remind my team jungler about it....
yeah. Important
My every match in every lane roles
Jungler takes our minions but if we take their creeps they gonna be mad :skull:
Everyone has different reasons or thought to why Valentina is op for me she is forever op because of her passive
There probably gonna Nerf her life steal like julien
0:37
Me who is in Epical Glory: Nope
I'm a Valentina main and I rarely Change my Battle spell because Flicker is a game changer depends on the enemy, it gives you a chase or run spell and gives you a Guaranteed Set if u have flicker like atlast khufra mino or other heroes that needed flicker As a multi role player its a good main hero for me
You could've done Ruby's Ult flicker for your team since u need a team CC
One way to counter a Valentina is to pick a Burt hero to deal with her of course u need a tank to help u cc her to burts her easier
it gave me chills at the beginning of the video when you talked about Valentina😄😄
2:18 a clip that suddenly make me burst out of laugh
1st : valentina is not ban before epic... and can be used often in epic.
2nd : ult with low CD can be use twice
ps i like to play valentina
The King of Bonk has come to bonk the ones simping for the Horn¥ Grandma.
This one's good try to always show the rank at the end ❤️❤️🔥
PLEASE YEEEES make a video talking about unexperience and what do and what not to do in every rol.
we need some tutorial or how to play in different character and different rols
She got a “nerf” the patch after she came out. They lowered the XP amount she gains but buffed her 1 and made her ult CD lower. She can still be caught out if you don’t dash properly.
They “nerfed” her again by changing the targeting on her 2.
I love Valentina sooo muuuchh I don't wanna see her getting nerfed but I guess it's necessary, to all Valentina mains, stay strong😔💔😭
I'm new to this game and when I saw her in the hero roster and read about her ult, I was left thinking why was this allowed in the game.... Absolutely madness indeed
Certainly
Valentine its so fcking op since release and even after nerfs
I think its even more broken than lunox when she was released
I think Esmeralda is still the strongest mage ever created
Ofc not nowdays tho since she got nerfed to the ground
*sad esme noises*
The developers are already giving her a slight nerf on some situationals ult like wanwan
Yes on upcoming patch. And also her terrify CC duration is lowered/nerfed too
Thats not really a nerf since Valentina is fast and you just gave her extra damage
Tbh that wanwan mechanism is an indirect buff, because now you also copy wanwan passive, so you can just hold the ult and deal some extra damage
That new wanwan mechanism is a buff because Valentina can apply those marks on enemy with both basic attacks and skills so she can just dash everywhere and reveal enemies in the minimap for 5 secs. Back to back.
how about vexana gameplay next, beto? I'm getting a bit hooked on her lately and my build is really focused on CD reduction, especially with fleeting time as my core item. I wonder if you have a different build I can learn from.
With full glass cannon build, she can one hit an enemy with 3-2-1 combo, but cannot with 1-2-3 combo (except when equipped with flameshot). I build her like this and use 3-2-1 combo since the slash from her knight is a great help in cutting some of the enemy's hp and I use sprint as my bs for her. With 1-2-3 combo, the enemy can still avoid the slash from the knight therefore, escaping. But with flameshot, you can burst them down. However, cd reduction build is also very good to always help ur teammates and poke enemies and Vexana is one hell of a menace during teamfights. In addition, you can also take advantage of her passive when poking enemies. Try to hit enemies near low hp minions and boom! They'll either go home or get killed.
I dunno beto but we have tank clear the mid wave right around 1:40 of game timer and mid will go to exp at that very moment so that the exp , mid and tank will be lvl 4 before turtle spawn we use it as an advantage for turtle fight, try doing it with your squad
Beto who is your main hero in ml
where can find picture from thumbnail? so good quality
In the trailer fate deniers
10th video asking for betosky to let us into his mind for crazy hyper blend combos only he can bring us!
I blushed when he said bad kitty... 🥴
Are we not gonna talk about how carmilla has 100% teamfight participation
Don’t worry they are already nerfing her in the next patch. A BIG BIG NERF. I have never rlly been a fan of Valentina bc I never seemed to deal as much damage or get good ults like everyone else 😭 but now Moonton decided that to activate wan wans ult Valentina will have to hit all the weakness marks. For minotour’s ult to be activated, Valentina will have to get a rage bar up. This can break her current place on the meta
That's not even that big of a nerf. If you happen to get lucky where Valentina isn't banned in a match I guarantee you that you won't be facing wan wan considering she is under perma ban status also atm. But regardless of that, having her ultimate nerfed for just 3 heroes isn't going to have much of an impact, if any.
@@tobythompson199x also xborg mage revamp makes up for its damage nerf for valentina
In my server, she's neither a pick not ban hero. Just ignored for some reason. Not many players know how she works.
"Lets wait for the kitty" hahaha its cute
9:31
Only in your hands....
Because in mine, Valentina is useless (sad face)
At my actual level, she's never banned
Wanwan is 98% of the times....
But I love Valentina lol
2:52 as a mage main, I hate when Junglers/Tanks do this
If you 1v1 a marksman that has a lower level than you after you copied their ult, don't transform back unless your enemy left becauseyou could use valentina's passive to your advantage and potentially kill your enemy whilst having high health.
124 Times asking betosky to play MINSITAR
And
1 time= 1 video
When Valentina was first released, she really was too OP. Played 2 matches (classic) using her and got a savage. If thats not OP, I don't know what is. Now, moontoon tune her down a bit but after having her core item, she still prove to be very formidable. BTW, betosky should copy carmila ult instead in this game. Damage output will be insane
I don't why I rarely see barats now. He was one of the best fighter . Can you do his gameplay?
A vengeance with hybird tank build never loss a match.
Betosky bro i would love to see you play recently nerfed heros and still dominate, that would be content right there lol..
If i am not wrong, when tank clear midlaner, the mage will get exp and tank only will get half only. I am not sure but i hear this in update🤔
Prime harith & Prime esme: Are u sure bout that?
There is this forgotten assassin, Welch is still strong, can u try him out? Talking about hayabusa
He was great, the problem is: he was.
@@MazenEhab people's in mpl play him, I play him on mithic, that noone play him is the best. He is never banned
@@nws_8791 I feel like if his second skill is so much easier to aim, he will definitely join the meta again, his full combo is enough to kill squishy in early
You make wanna come back to mlbb!!
I'm almost always got to use her in rank.. With this video, she'll be ban all the time.. Thanks beto..
They could lower her cd for the first skill when using her second skill which reduces the cd of the first skill on hit, I see that it comes pretty dang fast if done right including the dmg.
What's her passive? Exp double?
Yes u shud make that kind of video(asked tank to stop clearing)
I take it back when I said I regret buying Valentina-
Nerf her all you want, i got into top 100 global with this mage and is my main since release, i go back to tank whenever she banned, but autopick when available. As far as emblems those are correct however i like to build her differently. Spells yup flameshot or sprint. I approve this.
She got the big hammer nerf but a hero like this, will always be op.
Imagine if they had wan wan on the opposite team.
Edited : Had*
So?
@@abdulmuizz4927 valentina mm build goes brrrr😂 every 20sec
Thanks idol ..i was thinking about whether to buy her or not and..now you have shown me amazing game play of her i think i will ..buy her now💗
What if you copy a Valentina? 🤯
Fancy using the hardest marksman right now? Hanabi 👀
Just Beto forgetting first gen harith...
When I saw the thumbnail I thought the title would be something related to her watermelon
Beto
It's been some time since you played Beatrix and Luo Yi
She takes some skill u need to know what ulti to use at what time
I have changed my mind... Day 1 of requesting Betosky to play Pharsa...
0:34 Nooooo
Why not
"Absolutely Nutty" ?!!
Enemy has bad line up. Carmilla not gonna work with Layla and aamon. But for nana and ruby it could be.
I swear the devs were too high when they made this hero. She has an INSTANT ultimate which mean she can activate ulti's like Wanwan's without meeting the requirements needed. Glad she's finally getting her FIRST ACTUAL NERF
Yeah but her damage with wanwan is nothing without attack speed.
I heard valentina will now need to hit the weaknesses when copying wanwans ult
@@floydrendon7417 yes
Only today I found out when she copies Khaleed, she also gets his sand. Pretty nice
NICE GAME KEEP IT UP IDOL🔥
HOPE MY TOP GLOBAL CLINT GAMEPLAY CAN MOTIVATE AND ENTERTAIN TO ALL OF YOU❤️GODBLESS EVERYONE❣️❣️
idol....try frederin with vengence and tank build....its broken than any other character in mlbb right now
i really hate it when jungle or roamer clear the lanes before 5 mins or with no intention to get the turent
DO NOT nerf her, she's okay the way she's right now
I'm surprised no Star Wars meme at 2:10
Can you do Alpha again?
Wait what I thought u were being sarcastic when u posted a video of ur last Valentina game play but she's actually op💀💀💀💀
Best Ult You can copy is of Xborg 🔥🔥💥
when play tank i dont touch any minion even if need clear .roam is not helpful(always need lot money to finish build or get item ) i dont remember when i finish match with full items i play long time(11 k matches almost)
Pro tip: if u r in epic and u r stuck. Play valantina. No one bans her in epic