This dude was nuts, he was camping in late fall (harder for bears to catch fish among other things) knowingly in a area where more aggressive bears were roaming.
actually the bears in that area weren't known to be aggressive. The problem was, that he stayed for too long and so bears from other areas came by while searching for food. The bear that killed him and his girlfriend was an older bear who probably had problems to get enough food for his hibernation. So he tried his luck with them.
@@ronharris91 , yeah, that is a HUGE no no in bear territory. You’re not meant to even sleep in a tent that has EVER had food in it, even from another trip in another area.
To paraphrase a scientist reviewing this incident, give most of the credit to the bears and not for any human skill - for Treadwell lasting 13 years out there.
@@dmmchugh3714 well he did stay out passed when all the bears he knew went into hibernation. Then new ones moved in who didn't have the fat reserve and he's still there, no weapons, no nothing. It's literally what he wanted.
coz he follow the rules for that 13 summer, this time he bypass it. he know, october is were bears do there final hunt before hibernating, and all of them are hostile.
If you watch the movie, the bear that killed him AND his girlfriend was doing the predator circle around them for several days, and even an inexperienced naturalist would know that this is the sign to LEAVE ! And if that means camping 20 ft up a tree until the plane arrives, that's what you do. His complete lack of training and skills is the reason he died, but his immature nature and severe psychological problems are all over those tapes. No gun, no pepper spray and a girlfriend begging him to leave. Point is, this kind of behavior shouldn't be encouraged as if it was somebody doing important work who was accidentally killed, it was an idiot who was playing russian roulette with his own life and got that girl killed.
Gerry Keefe bears can climb trees pretty good there is a video and a guy is up pretty high in a tree and a bear like 30 feet away ends up above him and behind him in like 8 seconds
Yeh I agree was he brave or mental. I think mental problems wht was he trying to prove out there nothing he done made any sense at all it solved or proved nothing what a nutcase anyone should know a bear will kill u I don't know how he made it 13 times out there like that omg
Agreed. Trying to make Treadwell's demise seem poetic, philosophical, or almost religious is a fools errand. The tale was simple. A very immature manchild went up to the wild country and tried to treat bears as if they were human beings wearing bear suits. He ascribed to them human feelings, and imagined they were sharing humanlike relationships with him. He thought he was a special person who understood bears and nature at both a higher and deeper level than everyone else did. And he ended up in the stomach of a bear... BECAUSE HE WAS A FOOL! The only deep lesson here is not to be a fool, as he was.
It makes me wonder how in the hell Poland raised a bear, and enlisted it into the military with no issues. Probably because they raised it and didn't intrude its habitat.
Interestingly, at the beginning Treadwell is on edge, constantly looking over his shoulder, behind him, as if he could sense something wasn't right. Anyone who has experienced the outdoors in Griz country can relate. There's an eerie sense, he knew something wasn't right.
You can see in the documentary when a bear gets close to him he reacts out of fear. Yet he tried hardly to prove to people that he was special and that others would die doing what he was doing. The foxes following him, he saw that as some Disney scene, but in my opinion, they saw him as a weak prey and stayed near him to be killed by other bigger predator so they could later scavenge the rest of his corpse.
@@omoikane8961 Everyone knows foxes are cunning. Some animals surprise you with their intelligence. Baby opossum are wont to raid my dwelling at certain times of the year. Not long ago one night one brushed my ankle in my kitchen. It tickled and surprised me as I glanced down in the dark but it was not my neighbor's kitty. Their little turds are left on the carpet in corners or underneath furniture. They are always solid and very easy to clean up without stain. Yet, one morning I went into the bathroom and on the floor tiles I see a dried puddle (very thin layer) the same color as their turds. It was a loose shat! These little things had the consideration and foresight not to make a mess on the carpet with the runny bowel movement, and took that one in the bathroom on the hard tile floor? I LOVE IT!!! I scraped it off with a painting putty knife. It was stinky but still made me laugh. They're smart and just adorable.
He was also filming during the fall this time instead of summer like the previous years. Where new bears show up hungry for hibernation preparation. Whether you agree with his actions before this over the 13 summers, staying through the fall was a greater extreme and a big mistake
The bears didnt know what to think of Tim so they tolerated him for the most part until the end. Bears are different. If he had got this close to Polar bears they would have eaten him on their very first encounter.
It may be just me, but I do think he sounds a little nervous and keeps looking around much more than in the other clips. It's almost like he sensed that something was stalking him.
itsVilu if you watched the documentary, it’s clear that he realized the bears he was dealing with at this point were crankier and more ill-tempered than his usual subjects. In fact, he had already planned to fly home for the season and quit filming, but his plane ticket got cancelled. That made him all huffy so he went back to record the mean bears and got eaten. Still stupid, but understandable.
The work was done but what work was he proving Steve Irwin wasn't talked bad about cause he wasn't an is it to camp in a grizzly maze o my Steve Irwin s death was a complete accident not like Treadwell s. Suicid e. Mission ok
In the end, the harsh reality is that he did more damage to the bears than good. Be honest, when you hear the name Timothy Treadwell you don’t immediately think of the guy who treated these animals like Disney characters, you think of the guy that got eaten alive and proved that bears are incredibly dangerous and don’t give a damn about human life. He misinterpreted tolerance as acceptance. Bears don’t even accept each other let alone this man. I do admire his love for these animals but I pity his ignorance and condemn his recklessness which eventually got him and the girl, who was scared to death of bears, killed needlessly.
Totally agree. Timothy should have been prevented from going out there. I don't know how, only that he should have. I've never forgotten the horror of it. His incredible delusionary interactions with these apex predators was gut wrenching to watch. And poor Amy. She got caught up in a nightmare entirely of Timothy's construction. He was as much a danger in many ways as those bears. I don't mean any disrespect to him. But, he was. An utterly preventable tragedy. And yes, his name will forever be synonymous with the fate that ended two lives.
He definitely was. We have urban foxes in London and they'll follow me. A few have sat down in front of me when I was carrying takeaway food. I used to feed a few of them. They'd eat from my hand then split when the food ran out. I'd watch them in the garden behind my flat burying any food they got to save for later. I saw an egg in the garden once and thought, "that'll be gone by night fall." It was. It was a fox's stash and it came back for it.
This video has haunted me for years. Timothy was ill, he was deluded. He took chances and somehow survived all those summers with those bears who merely tolerated him at best. They didn't 'love' him. They didn't need him in their environment. Timothy needed to be in theirs so that's what he did. That last clip of his piece to camera, with the rain spots on the lens and the wind whipping the foliage around is one of the loneliest, most poignant things I've ever seen. On some visceral level I think he knew his time was close. I think he knew Death was watching him. He SHOULD have packed and run.. But, he didn't. A most terrible death. For him. For his girlfriend. Trauma for the rangers who opened the bear they killed and found pieces of two human beings in its guts. The bear killed them, but it was a wild animal answering the urge to feed.. Timothy was to blame. But I still feel great sorrow for his naivety and lost chance to save the two of them. Plus that bear. Werner did a great job on this. May all the victims rest now...
Interesting comments. I also liked the man who flew them in and out of the camp and found their remains. He was very professional and in his efforts in this case. He could have met the same fate and he was very respectful in his retelling of the tragic turn of events as a first responder. I wonder who "Werner" is you're speaking of? Are you referring to the narrator in this clip from the documentary "Grizzly Man"? Because I was really disappointed in his narration of the story for one reason only but the most baffling to me of all. He was so clear, throughout the documentary that he understood & respected Timothy's choices to follow his passion just as adamantly as Timothy was that the bears never to be portrayed in a negative light and then at the end of it all the narrator goes and says Timothy was "MURDERED" by the bear! I can't think of a worse word to use and it was not a slip of the tongue so in the end he was disrespectful when he didn't even listen to the message Timothy wanted to get out there in understanding his choices to live his life in this environment w/the animals he loved.
@@isabellind1292 you're right. Werner Hertzog attributed 'human intent' to a wild animal by using that word. The bear was a bear, doing what bears do: hunt, forage, eat, survive. It doesn't detract from the horror of the event, caused by a human who was lost in his obsession. It was and is still, a terrible event which always creates a deep sadness in me. Amy was afraid of the bears. All of them, no matter how Tim tried to portray them as' friends... ' I feel that with the passing of each season and no attacks the more deeply entrenched in his beliefs did Tim become. He stayed too long this time. He placed himself and Amy in harms way and they both paid the ultimate price. No one involved in this could forget. How dreadful a scene... How awful the circumstances. I think Werner did a very good job with the material he had. I cringed when he allegedly listened to the audio tape... Never in my lifetime could I countenance doing such a thing. This whole film just affected me on a level I don't fully understand. Even now I still feel that perhaps no one could have averted Tim from what he chose. "I live for these bears. I will die for these bears." Brave words. And prophetic.
@@onlyhuman1954 Yes, in another documentary, they referred to the bear as a "mindless killer" as if the bear just went around killing because he'd lost his marbles and said they'd "euthanized" him when he wasn't just put down, he was gunned down. But I think it's haunting to think about Timothy's decision to turn around and go back to the camp after he already gone to the airport and because of a confrontation he had w/an airline employee (or someone). Could he have decided in that moment he just couldn't go back home? That he just couldn't leave the environment and the animals he loved? Well, his loved one were sure to go back to the place he loved where they scattered his ashes and so he would have been so grateful to have his remains placed where he would have wanted, may they both rest in peace.🌹🌹
@@isabellind1292 I sort of get where you're coming from but don't think it was a disrespectful or insensitive way to end the narration. He was merely pointing out that whatever the rights, wrongs and whatever Tim was struggling with, trying to do and whether he knew himself how this fantasy world he created for himself was just that - there's no getting around the end result being that he was murdered / mauled / killed / eaten by a bear he tried so hard to pretend had accepted him and he swore he'd never harm even if he were attacked. That's the take home message and feeling I got from his emphasis on that one. I thinking maybe some level of anger and frustration as well in the senseless, needless waste because of Tim's stubborness and refusal to follow the most basic safety measures such as electric fence and bear spray. We'll surmise, suppose, sit and discuss this guy for another 100yrs because Tim's behaviour, choices and logic / reasoning we'll maybe never know. The only thing we do know for sure is how it ended which is the tragedy. One of these bears ripped him apart and left nothing but his scalped head, bit of shoulder, two forearms and the most horrific, his whole face with fixed grimace. When the time came he was left with nothing but a traumtised girlfriend trying to beat off a starving grizzly with pots and fucking pans. What that poor girl must have experienced trying to outrun and escape that bear I can't even begin to imagine 😞
If this scene was filmed close to his death, it is easy to tell that he knew something was wrong. He kept looking around like he was searching for something. I am guessing he knew that the bear was stalking him, it must have been terrifying knowing what is most likely coming for him. Since he had no weapons and had to wait for a plane to pick him up, at this point he was doomed
@@TTundragrizzly apparently he was at the airport and got into a dispute over the ticket prices and decided to stay for extra few days as a result. Still a ludicrously dangerous decision to make knowing all the healthy, well fed bears were in hibernation leaving the desperate starving bears still roaming around for their last meal.
He was looking around. He looked uneasy. It would make sense as it’s instinct. His gut was telling him but his mental issues were trying to reassure him. Sad he caused his and his girlfriend’s deaths.
No matter how misguided he was, it is still very depressing to think that 2 people lost their lives in such a horrific way. When it shows him walking away with the fox trailing behind him I always find that small part of the film touching and sad.😢
I remember him saying, at some point, that he trusted the bears. He might have said that, but his actions show different, in filming himself, he was constantly watching what was around him. In walking along the river with the bears following him, he never took his eyes off them for more than a few seconds. Not that the watching would have saved him if they attacked. He was too close. So the trust he spoke of was not really there. And he was right to watch, as the man in a previous video said, "they're not there to be your friend" In the end it was his own ego, the I know better than anyone else, ego that got them killed.
He was up there very late in the season. When all the well feed bears had already made their pilgrimage back into the mountains for hibernation. Only the older and younger ones desperately trying to pack on those needed pounds were still out in about looking for scraps. This guy's in the Grizzly Maze setting his tent up right on the path that these bears need and use to move around in this region. He was literally asking for it. It's pitch dark out in thick thickets with no room to maneuver for man or beast. Now here comes this older bear, whose getting pushed around, that hasn't put on enough reserves to get through the long, long winter. Now their on a collision course with no room to evade each other. In the pitch black night they run into each other and the bear quickly realizes that this is the protein he needs to get him through a long long winter. Game over. It's not the bears fault, its not the girls fault. It's Timothy's fault . He ought to have known better.
Sources also said that she really did not like bears or that lifestyle of Tims. If true, then it's only one thing that kept her around; her love for Timothy, so she stayed supportive. Why didn't she try to escape? There was only one bear. Unless she had a gun it was impossible to save Tim. Shock? Love?
Foxes are more noble and closer to a canine, foxes followed him almost everywhere as pets and surely it was so, a bond that even when him died, surely the foxes consume some of his meat anyway
He was on a suicide mission towards the end. He returned to the grizzly maze very late in summer and was camping near an older bear (the most dangerous) who was aggressive towards him.
The audio tape of the attack on you tube was an re enactment of the transcript which you can read online. The transcript of the attack on audio is available online. I never really cared or knew much about Grizzlies until I saw his footage, he had incredible encounters with wildlife never seen before. He should get credit for that. But the fact he did not get killed sooner is more of a testament to the bears not him.
Well I been to Katmai island and hate to break the news but he didn't have any special Indian powers or spiritual connection with the bears.. They walked past us multiple times close.. They are used to humans and have one thing on there mind... Salmon Salmon Salmon... He as most know stayed to late...
@neotokyo It sure sounded real! Terrifyingly real. I can’t even imagine the horror she felt seeing him eaten alive and knowing she was next with no safe place to go. So sad. RIP
@@r-trippin5078 I dont understand why people WANT to her that horrific audio of someone brutally being torn apart alive in unimaginable agony dying. that is fuckin SICK why do you want to listen to it so bad?????? so many psychos out there...
This is one of the most moving, somber, and haunting endings of any film I have ever seen. The footage, the music, Herzog's words and voice, it all comes together into something incredible. If it weren't about an actual man and woman's deaths, I would call it beautiful.
Well, Herzog looks onto death as an inescapable beauty, if you will... His words in general mean: learn from his mistakes and his disposition, then his death will at least have some meaning. And therein lies its beauty.
Fact. He was an alcoholic and a drug addict. His addled brain probably had a lot of misconceptions and this one just proved to be fatal. I feel sorry for him but I'm also angry because of the b******* that he perpetrated about grizzly bears. The guy was a disaster. He actually lectured at schools because schools were stupid enough to look at him as some sort of expert. He literally told kids that bears were party animals. Well I guess in a sense he was right. They sure had a party with him.
I've thought about this for awhile now and I have to say he did what he loved no question about it, but I don't think it was fair for him to take this women into this place and not be prepared to keep her safe at all cost. She depended on him to protect her and he couldn't! If this offends anyone I'm sorry. His story seems to be almost romanticized but who speaks for her?
Yeah it was absolutely disgusting of him to have done that. Like it's one thing to be an idiot and get yourself killed in an extremely brutal way, it's another to bring someone else down with you
Not packing heat was weapon grade stupidity along of course with the other 10k mistakes he made. Save your pity for that poor woman who he dragged along to his death.
Eventhough he was more knowledgeable about bears than the average person the main reason Timothy wasn't attacked or killed earlier is dumb luck. Obviously he'd never met a mother bear worried for her cubs safely. He'd never run into a bear violently wanting him out of his territory & he'd never met a desperate-starving bear. But a everyone knows he eventally did. Bears don't prefer humans as food. I ususlly happens when a bear is desperate from starving. If bears LOVED the taste of human flesh there'd be many hundreds/thousands of bear attacks & deaths yearly. One could conclude the we're not as tasty as salmon, deer meat ect... plus I'm sure we look freakish/unnatural & smell wierd as well. We are the only animal they see wearing stuff & not naturally covered in fur. For those who think Timothy got what he deserved, there really is no reason to be a dick about it. We know we all have done dangerous, even idioic things at times & were just dumb-lucky not to get killed. Luck runs out for each of us eventually & you'll find out a little human compassion is more precious than gold.
+Tom Billings: The area in Alaska where Timothy often stayed during summer is 100% bear-territory all summer long; that IS the reason why he returned every summer. Toward the end of the film, after the couple was missing, both: Timothy's pilot & the athorities were suddenly accosted by a bear near the campsite which displaying an alarming (deadly silent) "stalking behavior". The authorities killed the bear & did a quick autopsy confirming it was the bear that killed the couple & also noticed the bear was in poor condition due to starvation.
Speed demon, Youre half right. I lived 27 years in the Alaskan bush w TONS of griz & I guarantee you bears have NO respect for humans. See us as an annoyance in THEIR world. Nothing more than a mosquito. Were it not for their amazing tolerance Tredwell would have been bearshit lots earlier. Damn shame it didnt happen BEFORE he started taking Amy in w him. Tredwell just proved what every Real Alaskan knows. "DONT POKE THE FUCKIN BEARS!!"
Yeah but to continue 2 push that luck, n think you have this superficial level of the Bear's, just because U got away with it, YOUR A FOOL, he was on a suicide mission, n got his girlfriend ate, because he thought he was the bear man😂😂😂🤣.
Good Grief........ Watching Treadwell SO close to those two Bears while they were hunting for salmon....... Insane.!!! Brown Bears are renowned for being extremely " Aggressive and/or Territorial " when they are Hunting for Fish..!! To me the Biggest surprise isn't How , Where or Why Treadwell was Killed and eaten by these massive predators...... to me the Bigger SHOCK is How Long it actually took one of these Bears to figure it was " Feeding Time ".!! He really was Very Lucky to have lived as long as he DID , while filming his documentary.
who is he protecting? all the bears are hibernating and the hunters and tourists are gone! he set up camp between all those bear trails on purpose! he was waiting to be killed! he should have done this alone and not drag that girl into it!
+Jam1053428 She was deathly afraid of bears and Timothy provided her with a false sense of security and urged her to overcome her fears. You can't say he's 100% free of any responsibility.
+Jam1053428 you just sound bitter towards women. no one is defending her, we're looking at how she would have felt secure with him doing everything short of hugging the damn bears in front of her. calm your horses
Manchester Moon good point, there were other ways he could have lived with them. Safer ways. It's pretty hard headed to think he didn't need to carry bear spray living among wild grizzlys. It's amazing he lasted 13 yrs out there!
it's possible he did connect with them,they killed him but they are wild animals,how are they to know how fragile a human is,anything from a playfull wrestle to a single defensive / instinctive swipe can be fatal
B Murphy very true... EMAN67 (Movies,politics,commentary) yes Eman, good point, it was an unfamiliar bear.. and with a nasty mean streak. Not to mention, like the documentary stated, staying there that extra week was a huge risk they were advised not to take since it was close to hibernation for the bears and they were still searching for last minute "calories" to make sure that they survived the winter... and yes, she was loyal to the end. D Jones you're right, she was a grown woman capable of making her own decisions, but to call her an idiot and all that other garbage was a little harsh. Especially when all she said was he led her to her own death... not that he was responsible for it. So go suck ur own dick ya fuckin' prick. Geez... fuckin' spaz.
For an excellent read I suggest "The Grizzly Maze", by Nick Jans, a fellow Alaskan and well seasoned outdoorsman and author. In this book he examines the incident in great detail and with the cooperation of the Alaska Stae troopers, the rangers, the pilots and all involved .
I haven't any sympathy for the girlfriend. She reminds me of those women who marry men who they write to in a prison. She could have gone back on the plane and let Timothy stay the extra week. He'd been there alone before. Sounds like she wasn't even that into bears! Silly girl.
He said he was "protecting these bears and this land," but he seems more like a sycophant. What did he really do for them...(other than ultimately provide them with a good meal, of course) ?
Total Narcissistic Personality and other screws loose too . At several points he would try to run off others peacefully observing the bears and threaten them going as far as acting and running like a bear . He honestly believed he was the only one that belonged there and knew what he was doing , I guess this explains why he ended up how he did . He was belligerent with park rangers and was dumb enough to lie to them , fought with them and defied them when he was corrected or told to use measures to protect himself . The problem he didn't see is that they did what he did safely and did try to lay next to them or be their best mates .He was the only threat to the bears . In the time before and after he died there has never been a poaching problem and the people with Grizzly People know that . It is almost a good thing he is gone because the park was kicking him out for good . I hate to think of what all types of hell he would have caused rangers and visitors when this happened . After seeing his tantrums and learning he was so bitter over supposedly not being chosen to play on Cheers ( he very well lied about even auditioning as he lied pathologically) I think he would have been a danger to other humans . Then there is always the case that had a bear not eaten him he would have picked a fight with the wrong visitors and they would have defended themselves .
Chainsaw Kitten I agree . There were several things he did prior and during that point to the fact that he was a little fame hungry despite claiming the opposite . He lied many times about being all alone with the bears as he had girlfriends and groupies with him often filming and refilming to get the perfect shot , he lied multiple times about where he was from going as far as adopting fake accents , he fished for a permanent tv show after Steve Irwin landed a major show and was a huge success and he liked rubbing elbows with people like Leo Dicaprio . For one that supposedly didn't like people he did too many things that put him in a situation that got him on late night tv shows and around groups that ate up everything he did . None of this resembles anything one seeking solitude and working strictly as a conservationist does . He obviously loved those bears a little too much but he showed a bitterness about people not respecting his self demanded authority and supposedly losing that spot on Cheers ( did that actually happen because no one else seems to remember him and his big audition ) . This was like his way of going for something big with Animal Planet but those " pesky" park rangers stood in his way . How dare them ( via his own filmed rant ) . Had he simply followed the rules , not lied to an outrageous extent and not primped and taken shot after shot ( often changing hats , fixing his hair and changing head gear ) when documenting the bears maybe there would be no room for the self fame argument but he did too much that screamed " love me , respect me and I am important " to dismiss the fact that he did not have altruistic motives . I also am wondering where the severe child abuse proof is . People keep claiming this caused his behavior but other than some harsh but true words from his dad I have never found any proof of severe physical abuse . Was this bs as well to make him more marketable ?
And what about proof of poaching? He never ever went without a camera, and the one time he filmed people "abusing" bears (not poachers, but a bear watching group) he hid in the bushes the whole time, because in reality, he didn't have the balls to confront anyone....it's sad that he died the way he did, but I don't buy any of the crap he put out. Everyone talks about how much he sacrificed living as he did....but heck, I'd love to find a bunch of people with more money than good sense to fund me spending half the year camping and animal watching instead of actually working for a living. The guy made his choice to live the way he did, and he paid the price. Sad, what happened, and the authorities should have booted him out of Alaska years before - because he really was living an illusion. Bears don't give a fuck about people. Trained bears raised from Cubs have killed people. I read a book about treadwell, written by Nick Jan's.. At the end of the book, last chapter, he describes seeing a bear on one of his trips to Kaflia after the deaths, a big old male fishing at the waters edge..."at our approach he climbed laboriously up the bank, huffing, and tried to hide his enormous almost ridiculously fat bulk behind a half bare alder. In another few days he clamber up the mountain, burrow into his den, and go to sleep for the winter. He didn't need anything from us. He wasn't our friend. He had no name. All he wanted was to be left alone." Those few, simple sentences sum up animal conservation for me. Yes, they need our help - but they don't need us in their faces. Treadwell's interaction and relationships with those bears was all about HIS needs, whether he was aware of it or not. He was mentally ill, in my opinion, and someone should have saved HIM...from himself. Ah well, too late now.
Chainsaw Kitten I want more info on his childhood . I understand his dad used some unkind words about Timmy screwing up but I can promise I was told worse for doing nothing . There is a very prominent train of thought and claims of severe severe child abuse by Tim ' s dad by his die hard fans . He claimed he was severely beaten regularly and was subjected to chronic verbal abuse but not a person will confirm this . I bring this up because his supporters claim this was why he was so vigilant of the bears , didn't trust humans and was so daffy . As a true abuse victim I have never used my abuse to excuse bad behavior , lied about it and I would never see the link in abuse and being such a giant narcissistic lying ass . Abuse does cause issues in some but Tim was such a liar who knows what the truth is ? He claimed he was from England , he claimed he was an abused orphan from Australia that turned surf bum and the story about nearly being Woody on Cheers was greatly exaggerated ( he was a damn drama queen with horrid acting skills )so how does anything he claimed ever be considered the truth without extensive research . Hell , he wasn't even alone in Alaska many of the times he claimed he was . I wonder if it ever dawned on people that he was a egotistical jerk that lied so much he actually believed his own bs . His rants on The Alaska Park Service and the lack of rain show what a creepy narcissist he could be and that he was a spoiled diva . He also had a very well documented inability to get along with others and blew little matters out of normal limits , even in people that bent over to let him break rules . In the end he got what he wanted but the guy was no hero . I see him as a Peter Pan type man-child that could not tell the truth , caused trouble anywhere he went and often threw those helping him under the bus . I am glad at least the bears didn't care about him and proved him wrong . They were animals doing what normal animals do . Not his stuffed Teddy Bear that you could just play with .
He had most of his scalp torn off, both forearms, and part of a shoulder. Apparently when they found his upper body, his face was all contorted in pain as well.... what a terrible death.
On the recoding you could year him screaming continuously. He had no idea how this furry thing before him had suddenly changed into an actual bear and was eating him!
@@donaven58 Has the recording been released? I'd be surprised if it has. On the other hand, maybe it would deter others from acting as foolishly as this man did.
@@troyottosen8722 You're actually the ignorant one. The official tape was never released because that's cruel. Who genuinely wants to hear a man and women fighting for their lives? The tapes are and should be credited as reenactments. You'll see one is credited as a reenactments, and are the same as the ones that has no credit on them.
The guy obviously had a screw or two loose but spending as much time as he did out there is impressive. I think he truly believed in what he was doing, which is more than most can say.
Dude, they didn't need taking care of by you. They needed to be left alone. "It's the only thing I want to know." Truer words were never spoken. He brought about his own death through his arrogance.
Those bears were not his cuddly friends covered by thick layers of fur. Like any wild animal, they are extremely dangerous and unpredictable. Treadwell had some screws loose.
Important to note: He spent every summer in close proximity to bears that had access to an abundance of fish that were available from the river at the location he was at. The bears had access to their preferred food source (fish) and more than likely, tolerated and ignored Treadwell. Which does not mean that he had some kind of cosmic connection or bond with them. They just allocated their attention to the food source from the river. By staying late his final season, he found out how an undernourished, hungry bear behaves. And that is how any bear that is hungry will respond to a potential food source when necessary. Treadwell died due to untreated mental illness: bipolar disorder, narcissism, histrionic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder and manic delusional states. (And I want to add Tueret's syndrome based on his epic use of the 'F' word in numerous video clips. . . "Fck, . . Fckn' Fck!!"
And what medications were you prescribing him for all these diagnosed conditions, Doctor? (Don’t respond if it breaches patient file confidentiality......we understand.)
When I was first diagnosed with stage 4 colorectal cancer , the first thing that came to mind was that I wasn't going to die in a hospital bed. I am an outdoors guy , not so much of a religious guy, but I do believe that the good Lord cannot forgive suicide . I felt that a good way to go was the route that Brad Pitt took in the film "Legends of the Fall " . After viewing numerous photo's online of Grizzly attacks , I changed my mind & decided I would "accidentally" slip and fall into a bottomless mineshaft . But good luck and good doctors changed all that , and after 6 months of Chemo, Radiation, and Surgery , it looks like I'm gonna be around for a while . But seeing how my first thought was the Grizzly , I'm gonna get a Grizz tattoo on my left shoulder.
He said he'd die FOR the bears, but I don't know why it never occurred to him, that he would die BECAUSE OF the bears. He got too close to nature and its unforgiving brutality.
@@leonconnelly5303he was he even eerily said the bear who ended up killing him was just looking an opportunity to kill him and he couldnt befriend it .
The way he kept turning his head to look around, gave of the impression that he was nervous and uncomfortable. At least that's how it look to me. It's a lot different than his earlier films. I read that he stayed longer than he usually would have and began to become more reckless and had a stronger desire to cut himself from society. He also stated that some of the bears in the area he didn't know made him nervous.
Its typical of narcisstic assholes like treadwell who only think of themselves and ignore the collateral damage to innocent others because of their actions
He put in danger the bears and not only was psychotically ill he had to drag someone else into his deluded world and took an innocent life. Then you have people who have to go there and clean-up/rescue, they are all put at risk too.
Anthropomorphizing a wild animal almost always leads to tragedy whether the person, the animal or both. The bear that finally attacked Timothy was only doing what bears naturally do but it cost Timothy his life, that of his girlfriend and the life of the bear. The best you can do for wild animals is let them stay wild. Pretending you have a connection with them that they were never programmed by nature to have is doing the worst for them not "Loving" them. If Timothy wanted to love them he should have left them alone.
The only predator I fear is a bear. Sharks can swallow my carcass while lions grab a hold of my lifeless neck. A bear rips through your skull and eats you alive, not a good way to die.
@Sin Synn you're forgetting one big difference between the two. One's eating you on dry land with plenty of air to breath as you scream and the other is thrashing you around underwater as you drown in less than a minute
@Sin Synn based on some of the videos I've seen carnivores that hunt solo do indeed go for the killing blow, bears on the other hand usually only cripples stuff in the initial attack before they start eating
I think it’s easier to be killed by a Jaguar or Lion as they go for the throat and put you to sleep or the head and it’s an instant kill. Hyenas, wolfs and bears is a painful way to go. Flesh being torn from limb and all.
Regardless of the way he lived, this man was a kind and gently soul. Anyone who loves animals like that and can form relationships with them, like those foxes, is amazing and a light in darkness. He didn't deserve to suffer the way he did in the end. May he rest in peace .
I have hunted the peninsula 3 times,,, EVERY trip we have had Foxes hang out in our camp,,, same thing in the Brooks range,, we were feeding them with our hands,,, every trip to peninsula we have been charged, i dont camp down there without a electric fence, i lived in Alaska 16 years, never heard of any poaching of Bears on the peninsula, he said he was alone,, Liar , he was pulling a con on everyone and he got caught,, nothing special about him,,,bears are like humans, some nice, some curious, some just out right MEAN,, when i say nice, i dont mean you can pet them, i mean they mind their own business if you dont bother them and stay your distance
+Lucy Bulloch yeah, he sure did die for them. He provided food for an old, hungry grizzly---he served up HIMSELF. What an "out-of-touch with reality", delusional fool.
Btw, what job, what taking care of bears, a person there would only get in the way of there yearly cycle of life, he sounds unstable, what's he think he's doing for the bears, he's not building bear dens, he became a figment of his imagination, that somehow his presence was saving them, from what?
A lot of times women seek out a man who is unstable as they are, you see it in everyday life when they gravitate towards the "badboy"... then later regret it
He says the work is done. The bears are safe and on their way to hybernation etc etc. Did he really think that the bears could not have done their bear thing without him or that he really made a difference. The main difference was that there was this guy running around in the grass with a stick in his ass talking to the bears as if they could understand him. All the bears knew was that they had been doing fine for thousands of years and now some human kook is running around annoying the bears. Then one bear finally said hey I'm going to eat this dude, he looks pretty tasty...End of story. Doodle Dee Doodle Doo....
That's disturbing. The most terrifying fear comes from the nature, it's intrinsic when the darkness comes upon you and you just start to hear the noises of something moving near you. Nature is beautiful but also fatal for the men. But that's not a reason to hate, just for respect.
Don’t try and immortalize an obviously mentally ill man. His death, while tragic, was also unnecessary and stupid. He was ignorant and got his girlfriend killed with him. Don’t try to make a hero of someone who defied all warnings and ended as predicted.
It's not what Herzog's movie does. Herzog's movie is an attempt to make sense of the human disposition and Treadwell's death. So other dumbfucks can learn from it. For Herzog, as he says, the universe consists of death, struggle and horror. Treadwell is proof for that to Herzog...
for some reason we watched this documentary in English class. It was simultaneously beautiful, tragic, ugly, and disturbing. Yes his actions may seem crazy and he was delusional, but I see a man who just wanted to find happiness and acceptance, and found that in the wilderness spending time with the bears, not in the human world, even though he did it in a way that was inappropriate. The bond he had with them was truly special. I looked into him more. The bear that killed him was one from another area, not one of the bears he had spent 13 summers with, and he was in the wilderness later in the year when many of the bears he was used to were hibernating. If he had just left at the usual time, he probably would still be alive today.
@@FrancoJ-c7p ""revolutionary" people"... Some "revolutionary" people died in the past so you could freely express your nonsensical thoughts. Revolution and Delusion are two different things.
This man seems the epitome of the quote “I’d rather die doing what I love than live doing what I hate” Human society isn’t for everyone. Some men are meant to become one with nature.
@@ge2623 Not according to the National Park Service report ,which is available online. "The subjects were in compliance with park camping regulations. The subjects had not obtained a backcountry permit for the Kaflia Lake campsite that was optional in 2003." That's from the report and it says it was "optional" to get a permit so it wasn't illegal what they were doing
@@lucancherby in the documentary it says that he was constantly in violation of the rule that you have to a keep a certain distance from the bears. He also toward the end started to violate the rule that you have to move your place of camping at least a mile every 10 days or something like that, which he didn't want to do because he wanted to stay in the grizzly maze.
Fuck off u guys he lived and learned and clearly bettered himself. I've done the same a couple years after I made a comment stumbled back upon it and didn't like what I said or agree with my thoughts then anymore as I was older and wiser by then. Respect to you brother may you always find a better version of yourself to become!
This man was warned many times and the fact that these r wild animals no matter how much time he spent with them was dangerous. I just question his mental state by the way he acted and talked...
Humans are known to cannibalize other when starving. This is a fascinating story in that he spent a incredible amount of time in the area with no harm done to him. As time goes on and more is learned about animals this will be valuable footage to learn from. He did it out of love not fear which is why I think he was successful for so long. I would not have enough courage to try it.
He wrote a book called 'Grizzly Man'; I believe it explains his early years. He really loved being around the animals and knew the risk involved. While I disagreed with some of his choices (mostly because of his methods, which sometimes put the animals at risk) I don't think we need to call him names and belittle him. Whatever happened to not speaking ill of the dead? He died doing what he loved most in the world. We should all be so lucky. RIP, Grizzly man.
+Lady Alibat yes, I've watched the entire documentary including the interview with the Denali park ranger who said, "I think the bears felt sorry for him. They thought he was retarded. "
Of course you can speak I’ll when they harm the living. He killed his girlfriend who did not share his delusions or beliefs, but trusted him and believed in him (not what he believed in). Her family will grieve for the rest of their lives. He was a selfish prick to bring her along, and take advantage of her faith in him.
Poor man. What Tim Treadwell did for Grizzlies is to record these animals so we understood them and we felt the need to protect them and the land through legislation. The interpreters of an unknown species are always doing great work to bring the rest of us the awareness and understanding of this animal or human. Look what Jacques Cousteau did for marine life, and Steve Irwin for crocs, Keith Richardson for lions, Austin Steven for snakes, and Timothy Treadwell for Grizzly bears. Yes, deep down I also believe he had a death wish. He was hooked on drugs, then took foolish risks with bears, and finally went too far. But look at what he left us.., hundreds of hours of grizzly bear behavior, a huge awareness of these magnificent beasts, an empathy with them, a deeper understanding of sharing the planet with them. Tim Treadwell's actions in endangering his life and his girlfriend's life are not mine to judge. He paid the ultimate price for his poor judgment, so let him rest in peace. I am deeply grateful to Tim and the Grizzly People for giving us this incredible footage and gift of empathy, for making us see what he saw. These bears are awesomely powerful, as magnificent as dinosaurs and once we lose them, we lose a huge part of the diverse family of life we share this planet with. Thank you Werner Herzog for making this film, Tim Treadwell for your gift to bears, and the poster of this film which was so moving.
Lass-in Angeles I wonder if you’d say those words to his girlfriend’s grieving family. Especially after they learned from the movie that their daughter wanted to leave earlier, that she was terrified of bears. You are not one to judge. If he hadn’t killed her too I’d agree with you, but he caused harm to another person so whatever legacy he leaves is worth spitting on.
It is truly heartbreaking to read through these comments below. Timothy Treadwell died for what he believed in. I'm sure He was fully aware of the fact he was flirting with death every minute spent in that land but that's what comes with his destiny. Any destiny consists of obstacles. I will not criticize anyone who labels him insane but in the end he was living the dream and certainly not giving a damn about what others thought of him. He loved those bears, he loved the nature. He loved his life. Not many people are like that in today's material world.
very true. He is to be respected before being criticized for taking risks. Adults make these decisions and they live or die by them. Their choices......
Man, put away your unicorns and rainbows. This clown played Russian roulette for 13 years and eventually wound up as the main course of his beloved "babies". He ought to be the poster boy for the Darwin awards, forever!
Tim found it difficult to walk among people, felt, out of place, we too sometimes. Tim's problem was he loved to deeply, a depth of love not understood by bear and human alike.
Rest in peace to these lovely people, he had good intentions but just went about them in a delusional manner. Unfortunate how everything happened. I pray their families find peace after these awful events.
What did Tim ever do that can be seen as "... taking care of them..." He made all the wrong moves when it came to loving bears. When you habituate wild animals to humans you do nothing but sign their death warrant. If Tim wanted to do something good for the bears or any wild life he would have known to leave them alone! He caused the death of 6 bears which were all killed as tthey looked for the one that ate him and Amy. How is this protecting the bears? Tim was a mental case at best.
This man died because of his lack of knowledge on how to read bears behavior. He wasn’t a real specialist. He knew some stuff but not enough to know when you should leave. This happens at the very end of the feasting season, when bears have to eat before long. The bear was late in the season. All the salmon were gone, most of them eaten by the other bears that were there earlier. He was desperately hungry. On an other footage, we can see him diving into the depths of a river searching for some uneaten salmon at the bottom on the water. Then we can see that he is alone with Tim, the woman is filming and the bear is watching them intensively. At this point they are both already doomed. A real phd specialist would have said it’s time to go, the bear is desperate. When the beast was in the river, they should have left right there......
This is the most profound scene in self-cinematography ever produced. Whistling by the wind. Seeking through the sanity. Glancing past the graveyard. He was life-filled yet an empty soul. God bless Timothy Treadwell. 🙏🏻✝️🤍
Treadwell was warned repeatedly by U.S. Forest Rangers that his unprofessional behavior was not only putting his (and his girlfriends) life at risk, but was detrimental to the bears. He was an unnecessary distraction to them at a critical time when they needed to put on maximum weight gain if they hoped to survive the long Alaskan winter. Why do some people insist on romanticizing his story? No one heard of him until the bear killed them, and there`s been absolutely no evidence that his "work" provided any insight into bear behavior, except the fact that an old bear, as this one was, who can`t catch enough salmon to fatten up enough to survive hibernation will seek alternative sources of protein. Treadwell and his girlfriend were easy prey, and if he understood bear behavior and needs at all, he would have realized the danger they were in.
+ D J Koenig. Very well said about those who thought he deserved it. What a cruel thing to say about anybody. People make jokes about the audio of his death while I was upset for weeks having to hear people dying a horrible n terrifying death. It just stuns me the lack of compassion.
+Heather Gall Don't open Pandora's box unless you're willing to see what's inside and accept the consequences. This guy was a lunatic and egomaniac. BEARS FIGHT OTHER BEARS for encroaching on each others turf, never mind a human 1/5 their size, who's bumbling around THEIR SPACE. The Male who ate him probably gave him signs in BEAR LANGUAGE to get the F$%K out of his territory but this asshole probably thought the Grizzly wanted a hug. I'm astonished he survived as long as he did.
@El Padre con Verga Larga It probably is. Somebody said that the video probably got leaked and they covered up that illegality by claiming it's a "re-enactment." It is very hard for an adult to fake scream at all, much less to seem to be going through all that. But, I haven't listened and don't want to.
This dude was nuts, he was camping in late fall (harder for bears to catch fish among other things) knowingly in a area where more aggressive bears were roaming.
Even my instincts can sense that and know better.
Adam Schenfeld thats what the original poster said
He also got lazier, had food and snacks in his tent, was cooking close to his sleeping area
actually the bears in that area weren't known to be aggressive. The problem was, that he stayed for too long and so bears from other areas came by while searching for food. The bear that killed him and his girlfriend was an older bear who probably had problems to get enough food for his hibernation. So he tried his luck with them.
@@ronharris91 , yeah, that is a HUGE no no in bear territory. You’re not meant to even sleep in a tent that has EVER had food in it, even from another trip in another area.
It really is amazing that he survived 13 summers with those animals.
To paraphrase a scientist reviewing this incident, give most of the credit to the bears and not for any human skill - for Treadwell lasting 13 years out there.
@@dmmchugh3714 well he did stay out passed when all the bears he knew went into hibernation. Then new ones moved in who didn't have the fat reserve and he's still there, no weapons, no nothing. It's literally what he wanted.
He should've stopped at 12😂😂😂😂
I agree.
coz he follow the rules for that 13 summer, this time he bypass it. he know, october is were bears do there final hunt before hibernating, and all of them are hostile.
If you watch the movie, the bear that killed him AND his girlfriend was doing the predator circle around them for several days, and even an inexperienced naturalist would know that this is the sign to LEAVE ! And if that means camping 20 ft up a tree until the plane arrives, that's what you do. His complete lack of training and skills is the reason he died, but his immature nature and severe psychological problems are all over those tapes. No gun, no pepper spray and a girlfriend begging him to leave. Point is, this kind of behavior shouldn't be encouraged as if it was somebody doing important work who was accidentally killed, it was an idiot who was playing russian roulette with his own life and got that girl killed.
Gerry Keefe bears can climb trees pretty good there is a video and a guy is up pretty high in a tree and a bear like 30 feet away ends up above him and behind him in like 8 seconds
Actually Shane, black bears can climb trees, but not Grizzlies.
Agreed. This is a crazy ignorant and arrogant man who got a woman and two bears killed.
The woman got herself killed. She was a grown up and decided for herself, nobody forced her to be there. For the rest I agree
Yeh I agree was he brave or mental. I think mental problems wht was he trying to prove out there nothing he done made any sense at all it solved or proved nothing what a nutcase anyone should know a bear will kill u I don't know how he made it 13 times out there like that omg
I heard him say: that bear is my friend. That was his fault, bears don't make friends. They don't need friends, they need food.
Agreed. Trying to make Treadwell's demise seem poetic, philosophical, or almost religious is a fools errand. The tale was simple. A very immature manchild went up to the wild country and tried to treat bears as if they were human beings wearing bear suits. He ascribed to them human feelings, and imagined they were sharing humanlike relationships with him. He thought he was a special person who understood bears and nature at both a higher and deeper level than everyone else did. And he ended up in the stomach of a bear... BECAUSE HE WAS A FOOL! The only deep lesson here is not to be a fool, as he was.
Magnificent knowledge!
It makes me wonder how in the hell Poland raised a bear, and enlisted it into the military with no issues. Probably because they raised it and didn't intrude its habitat.
This is exactly why I will never trust an animal 100%. They are too unpredictable
@@SageofSorrow I disagree. Most people trust their dogs. Animal just like human, it’s case by case.
Interestingly, at the beginning Treadwell is on edge, constantly looking over his shoulder, behind him, as if he could sense something wasn't right. Anyone who has experienced the outdoors in Griz country can relate. There's an eerie sense, he knew something wasn't right.
Live in Montana you get the same feeling when you get an elk down and are preparing it for the pack out
Cuz all the small animals clear out. Less sound.
You can see in the documentary when a bear gets close to him he reacts out of fear. Yet he tried hardly to prove to people that he was special and that others would die doing what he was doing.
The foxes following him, he saw that as some Disney scene, but in my opinion, they saw him as a weak prey and stayed near him to be killed by other bigger predator so they could later scavenge the rest of his corpse.
@@omoikane8961 Everyone knows foxes are cunning. Some animals surprise you with their intelligence. Baby opossum are wont to raid my dwelling at certain times of the year. Not long ago one night one brushed my ankle in my kitchen. It tickled and surprised me as I glanced down in the dark but it was not my neighbor's kitty. Their little turds are left on the carpet in corners or underneath furniture. They are always solid and very easy to clean up without stain. Yet, one morning I went into the bathroom and on the floor tiles I see a dried puddle (very thin layer) the same color as their turds. It was a loose shat! These little things had the consideration and foresight not to make a mess on the carpet with the runny bowel movement, and took that one in the bathroom on the hard tile floor?
I LOVE IT!!! I scraped it off with a painting putty knife. It was stinky but still made me laugh. They're smart and just adorable.
He was also filming during the fall this time instead of summer like the previous years. Where new bears show up hungry for hibernation preparation. Whether you agree with his actions before this over the 13 summers, staying through the fall was a greater extreme and a big mistake
The bears didnt know what to think of Tim so they tolerated him for the most part until the end. Bears are different. If he had got this close to Polar bears they would have eaten him on their very first encounter.
It may be just me, but I do think he sounds a little nervous and keeps looking around much more than in the other clips. It's almost like he sensed that something was stalking him.
Further proof that man leads all other species in the category of mental illness
itsVilu if you watched the documentary, it’s clear that he realized the bears he was dealing with at this point were crankier and more ill-tempered than his usual subjects. In fact, he had already planned to fly home for the season and quit filming, but his plane ticket got cancelled. That made him all huffy so he went back to record the mean bears and got eaten. Still stupid, but understandable.
Bears don't stalk but I get what you mean
Probably because God gave him a warning dream the night before. It came true within 36-48 hrs.
The work was done but what work was he proving Steve Irwin wasn't talked bad about cause he wasn't an is it to camp in a grizzly maze o my Steve Irwin s death was a complete accident not like Treadwell s. Suicid e. Mission ok
Bear: "that's it, if that idiot is still here tomorrow I'm eatin him."
FUCKING DEAD!!!
I think the bear probably watched one of his videos.
🤣they say guests who stay too long start to smell like fish
Lmao, I know he's been asked nicely to leave....twice. You don't get a third
@@robingagan6288 well they weren't wrong...
In the end, the harsh reality is that he did more damage to the bears than good. Be honest, when you hear the name Timothy Treadwell you don’t immediately think of the guy who treated these animals like Disney characters, you think of the guy that got eaten alive and proved that bears are incredibly dangerous and don’t give a damn about human life. He misinterpreted tolerance as acceptance. Bears don’t even accept each other let alone this man. I do admire his love for these animals but I pity his ignorance and condemn his recklessness which eventually got him and the girl, who was scared to death of bears, killed needlessly.
That's a very good way to put it.
Totally agree. Timothy should have been prevented from going out there. I don't know how, only that he should have. I've never forgotten the horror of it. His incredible delusionary interactions with these apex predators was gut wrenching to watch. And poor Amy. She got caught up in a nightmare entirely of Timothy's construction. He was as much a danger in many ways as those bears. I don't mean any disrespect to him. But, he was. An utterly preventable tragedy. And yes, his name will forever be synonymous with the fate that ended two lives.
I think Treadwell was feeding those foxes, I believe that was the only reason even THEY were tolerating him.
He definitely was. We have urban foxes in London and they'll follow me. A few have sat down in front of me when I was carrying takeaway food. I used to feed a few of them. They'd eat from my hand then split when the food ran out.
I'd watch them in the garden behind my flat burying any food they got to save for later. I saw an egg in the garden once and thought, "that'll be gone by night fall." It was. It was a fox's stash and it came back for it.
This video has haunted me for years. Timothy was ill, he was deluded. He took chances and somehow survived all those summers with those bears who merely tolerated him at best. They didn't 'love' him. They didn't need him in their environment. Timothy needed to be in theirs so that's what he did. That last clip of his piece to camera, with the rain spots on the lens and the wind whipping the foliage around is one of the loneliest, most poignant things I've ever seen. On some visceral level I think he knew his time was close. I think he knew Death was watching him. He SHOULD have packed and run.. But, he didn't. A most terrible death. For him. For his girlfriend. Trauma for the rangers who opened the bear they killed and found pieces of two human beings in its guts. The bear killed them, but it was a wild animal answering the urge to feed.. Timothy was to blame. But I still feel great sorrow for his naivety and lost chance to save the two of them. Plus that bear. Werner did a great job on this. May all the victims rest now...
Interesting comments. I also liked the man who flew them in and out of the camp and found their remains. He was very professional and in his efforts in this case. He could have met the same fate and he was very respectful in his retelling of the tragic turn of events as a first responder.
I wonder who "Werner" is you're speaking of? Are you referring to the narrator in this clip from the documentary "Grizzly Man"? Because I was really disappointed in his narration of the story for one reason only but the most baffling to me of all.
He was so clear, throughout the documentary that he understood & respected Timothy's choices to follow his passion just as adamantly as Timothy was that the bears never to be portrayed in a negative light and then at the end of it all the narrator goes and says Timothy was "MURDERED" by the bear!
I can't think of a worse word to use and it was not a slip of the tongue so in the end he was disrespectful when he didn't even listen to the message Timothy wanted to get out there in understanding his choices to live his life in this environment w/the animals he loved.
@@isabellind1292 you're right. Werner Hertzog attributed 'human intent' to a wild animal by using that word. The bear was a bear, doing what bears do: hunt, forage, eat, survive.
It doesn't detract from the horror of the event, caused by a human who was lost in his obsession. It was and is still, a terrible event which always creates a deep sadness in me. Amy was afraid of the bears. All of them, no matter how Tim tried to portray them as' friends... ' I feel that with the passing of each season and no attacks the more deeply entrenched in his beliefs did Tim become.
He stayed too long this time. He placed himself and Amy in harms way and they both paid the ultimate price. No one involved in this could forget. How dreadful a scene... How awful the circumstances.
I think Werner did a very good job with the material he had. I cringed when he allegedly listened to the audio tape... Never in my lifetime could I countenance doing such a thing. This whole film just affected me on a level I don't fully understand. Even now I still feel that perhaps no one could have averted Tim from what he chose.
"I live for these bears. I will die for these bears."
Brave words. And prophetic.
@@onlyhuman1954 Yes, in another documentary, they referred to the bear as a "mindless killer" as if the bear just went around killing because he'd lost his marbles and said they'd "euthanized" him when he wasn't just put down, he was gunned down.
But I think it's haunting to think about Timothy's decision to turn around and go back to the camp after he already gone to the airport and because of a confrontation he had w/an airline employee (or someone).
Could he have decided in that moment he just couldn't go back home? That he just couldn't leave the environment and the animals he loved?
Well, his loved one were sure to go back to the place he loved where they scattered his ashes and so he would have been so grateful to have his remains placed where he would have wanted, may they both rest in peace.🌹🌹
Of course he knew his time was close. He committed suicide by bear
@@isabellind1292 I sort of get where you're coming from but don't think it was a disrespectful or insensitive way to end the narration. He was merely pointing out that whatever the rights, wrongs and whatever Tim was struggling with, trying to do and whether he knew himself how this fantasy world he created for himself was just that - there's no getting around the end result being that he was murdered / mauled / killed / eaten by a bear he tried so hard to pretend had accepted him and he swore he'd never harm even if he were attacked.
That's the take home message and feeling I got from his emphasis on that one. I thinking maybe some level of anger and frustration as well in the senseless, needless waste because of Tim's stubborness and refusal to follow the most basic safety measures such as electric fence and bear spray. We'll surmise, suppose, sit and discuss this guy for another 100yrs because Tim's behaviour, choices and logic / reasoning we'll maybe never know. The only thing we do know for sure is how it ended which is the tragedy. One of these bears ripped him apart and left nothing but his scalped head, bit of shoulder, two forearms and the most horrific, his whole face with fixed grimace. When the time came he was left with nothing but a traumtised girlfriend trying to beat off a starving grizzly with pots and fucking pans. What that poor girl must have experienced trying to outrun and escape that bear I can't even begin to imagine 😞
Bears are basically land sharks.
bearnado?!
Josh Rondeau I want this to be a film now.
Mikey Patchy b
Mikey Patchy That's a good point!
Mikey Patchy pretty much lol
If this scene was filmed close to his death, it is easy to tell that he knew something was wrong. He kept looking around like he was searching for something. I am guessing he knew that the bear was stalking him, it must have been terrifying knowing what is most likely coming for him. Since he had no weapons and had to wait for a plane to pick him up, at this point he was doomed
He declined his pick- up. Decided to stay longer. Bad choice
He should of claimed up high in a tree 🌳and stayed there
@@TTundragrizzly apparently he was at the airport and got into a dispute over the ticket prices and decided to stay for extra few days as a result. Still a ludicrously dangerous decision to make knowing all the healthy, well fed bears were in hibernation leaving the desperate starving bears still roaming around for their last meal.
He was looking around. He looked uneasy. It would make sense as it’s instinct. His gut was telling him but his mental issues were trying to reassure him. Sad he caused his and his girlfriend’s deaths.
No matter how misguided he was, it is still very depressing to think that 2 people lost their lives in such a horrific way. When it shows him walking away with the fox trailing behind him I always find that small part of the film touching and sad.😢
me to but he was in a happy place i have never been there one day if i am good RIP Tim
I remember him saying, at some point, that he trusted the bears. He might have said that, but his actions show different, in filming himself, he was constantly watching what was around him. In walking along the river with the bears following him, he never took his eyes off them for more than a few seconds. Not that the watching would have saved him if they attacked. He was too close. So the trust he spoke of was not really there. And he was right to watch, as the man in a previous video said, "they're not there to be your friend"
In the end it was his own ego, the I know better than anyone else, ego that got them killed.
He was up there very late in the season. When all the well feed bears had already made their pilgrimage back into the mountains for hibernation. Only the older and younger ones desperately trying to pack on those needed pounds were still out in about looking for scraps. This guy's in the Grizzly Maze setting his tent up right on the path that these bears need and use to move around in this region. He was literally asking for it. It's pitch dark out in thick thickets with no room to maneuver for man or beast. Now here comes this older bear, whose getting pushed around, that hasn't put on enough reserves to get through the long, long winter. Now their on a collision course with no room to evade each other. In the pitch black night they run into each other and the bear quickly realizes that this is the protein he needs to get him through a long long winter. Game over. It's not the bears fault, its not the girls fault. It's Timothy's fault . He ought to have known better.
Sources also said that she really did not like bears or that lifestyle of Tims. If true, then it's only one thing that kept her around; her love for Timothy, so she stayed supportive. Why didn't she try to escape? There was only one bear. Unless she had a gun it was impossible to save Tim. Shock? Love?
I'm wondering if she had her period?
Blood is blood, and I'll bet that a bear nose is quite sensitive.
ur an idiot - its the subs , you say he was asking for it - fu mcker old adult not responsible
No dumbfuck.. you're the idiot. Treadwell is dead because HE was a dumbfuck too.
SCREQW U - I AM A BEAR EXPERT
I felt i had a strong connection to a group of seagulls in the Lowes parking lot until i ran out of french fries
Woulda worked if this comment didn’t have thousands of likes on other posts lol u tried tho
Yup,
Mmm
😂 we have a lot of crows in out parking lot.
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I love the Foxes following him , he thinks there pals but there just waiting for the feeding to begin.
Really no different that people’s peoples pet cats right?
My apol
gize Sir Hilton your correct truthfully your earth is one giant Disney film .
The foxes might have consumed his dead body too . . .
Your dog acting the same, even your kids
Foxes are more noble and closer to a canine, foxes followed him almost everywhere as pets and surely it was so, a bond that even when him died, surely the foxes consume some of his meat anyway
He was on a suicide mission towards the end. He returned to the grizzly maze very late in summer and was camping near an older bear (the most dangerous) who was aggressive towards him.
It wasn't the most dangerous. It was the 3rd most dangerous
The audio tape of the attack on you tube was an re enactment of the transcript which you can read online. The transcript of the attack on audio is available online. I never really cared or knew much about Grizzlies until I saw his footage, he had incredible encounters with wildlife never seen before. He should get credit for that. But the fact he did not get killed sooner is more of a testament to the bears not him.
@Reflexez where do you find that audio or whatever they had?
Well I been to Katmai island and hate to break the news but he didn't have any special Indian powers or spiritual connection with the bears.. They walked past us multiple times close.. They are used to humans and have one thing on there mind... Salmon Salmon Salmon... He as most know stayed to late...
@neotokyo It sure sounded real! Terrifyingly real. I can’t even imagine the horror she felt seeing him eaten alive and knowing she was next with no safe place to go. So sad. RIP
@Eric W I don’t understand why they didn’t kick him out permanently?!
@@r-trippin5078 I dont understand why people WANT to her that horrific audio of someone brutally being torn apart alive in unimaginable agony dying. that is fuckin SICK why do you want to listen to it so bad?????? so many psychos out there...
This is one of the most moving, somber, and haunting endings of any film I have ever seen. The footage, the music, Herzog's words and voice, it all comes together into something incredible. If it weren't about an actual man and woman's deaths, I would call it beautiful.
Well, Herzog looks onto death as an inescapable beauty, if you will... His words in general mean: learn from his mistakes and his disposition, then his death will at least have some meaning. And therein lies its beauty.
Incredible, I agree with all you wrote. Even if those deaths were horrible, Herzog created a masterpiece! Epic art!
I agree.
just a total romantic misconseption about the nature
Couldn't have said it better. Tragic.
I never understood what he perceived he was doing to help the bear. What exactly did he see his job as being?
Romantic? I saw the entire doc and ... Just stupid
Fact. He was an alcoholic and a drug addict. His addled brain probably had a lot of misconceptions and this one just proved to be fatal. I feel sorry for him but I'm also angry because of the b******* that he perpetrated about grizzly bears. The guy was a disaster. He actually lectured at schools because schools were stupid enough to look at him as some sort of expert. He literally told kids that bears were party animals. Well I guess in a sense he was right. They sure had a party with him.
And he tried to apply human emotions to wild animals...
Creepy as hell how he’s looking around. I even read he saw that bear watching him from a far.
Apparently he had a dream he was eaten by a bear the night before it happened as well
@@Angela-x6o yup daje vu
Yes he knew
I've thought about this for awhile now and I have to say he did what he loved no question about it, but I don't think it was fair for him to take this women into this place and not be prepared to keep her safe at all cost. She depended on him to protect her and he couldn't! If this offends anyone I'm sorry. His story seems to be almost romanticized but who speaks for her?
Yeah it was absolutely disgusting of him to have done that. Like it's one thing to be an idiot and get yourself killed in an extremely brutal way, it's another to bring someone else down with you
Yeah but she was a adult, she shouldnt have gone or at least have a hidden gun
You hit the nail right on the head! I think it’s ok to get mad at him, what he did was irresponsible and disrespectful!!
@@krystelalexandratejeda4415 guns arent allowed in that park
@@ronharris91 that's no park you idiot
Not packing heat was weapon grade stupidity along of course with the other 10k mistakes he made. Save your pity for that poor woman who he dragged along to his death.
Amen to that 👍🏻
Eventhough he was more knowledgeable about bears than the average person the main reason Timothy wasn't attacked or killed earlier is dumb luck. Obviously he'd never met a mother bear worried for her cubs safely. He'd never run into a bear violently wanting him out of his territory & he'd never met a desperate-starving bear. But a everyone knows he eventally did. Bears don't prefer humans as food. I ususlly happens when a bear is desperate from starving. If bears LOVED the taste of human flesh there'd be many hundreds/thousands of bear attacks & deaths yearly. One could conclude the we're not as tasty as salmon, deer meat ect... plus I'm sure we look freakish/unnatural & smell wierd as well. We are the only animal they see wearing stuff & not naturally covered in fur.
For those who think Timothy got what he deserved, there really is no reason to be a dick about it. We know we all have done dangerous, even idioic things at times & were just dumb-lucky not to get killed. Luck runs out for each of us eventually & you'll find out a little human compassion is more precious than gold.
Well said. His camp probably was set up on one of the Bears territory
+Tom Billings: The area in Alaska where Timothy often stayed during summer is 100% bear-territory all summer long; that IS the reason why he returned every summer. Toward the end of the film, after the couple was missing, both: Timothy's pilot & the athorities were suddenly accosted by a bear near the campsite which displaying an alarming (deadly silent) "stalking behavior". The authorities killed the bear & did a quick autopsy confirming it was the bear that killed the couple & also noticed the bear was in poor condition due to starvation.
I’m 2yo today ❤️
Speed demon, Youre half right. I lived 27 years in the Alaskan bush w TONS of griz & I guarantee you bears have NO respect for humans. See us as an annoyance in THEIR world. Nothing more than a mosquito. Were it not for their amazing tolerance Tredwell would have been bearshit lots earlier. Damn shame it didnt happen BEFORE he started taking Amy in w him. Tredwell just proved what every Real Alaskan knows. "DONT POKE THE FUCKIN BEARS!!"
Yeah but to continue 2 push that luck, n think you have this superficial level of the Bear's, just because U got away with it, YOUR A FOOL, he was on a suicide mission, n got his girlfriend ate, because he thought he was the bear man😂😂😂🤣.
Good Grief........ Watching Treadwell SO close to those two Bears while they were hunting for salmon....... Insane.!!! Brown Bears are renowned for being extremely " Aggressive and/or Territorial " when they are Hunting for Fish..!!
To me the Biggest surprise isn't How , Where or Why Treadwell was Killed and eaten by these massive predators...... to me the Bigger SHOCK is How Long it actually took one of these Bears to figure it was " Feeding Time ".!! He really was Very Lucky to have lived as long as he DID , while filming his documentary.
Trevor S For the most part when they are gorging on a never ending salmon supply they don’t care about a human standing near them.
the pilot of the helicopter saying "when Treadwell is gone" to the beat of the song just made me cry...
"I'd die for them"
Well, you got your wish bro.
"The work is done...... It's the only work I'll ever know."
Truer words were never spoken.
who is he protecting?
all the bears are hibernating and the hunters and tourists are gone!
he set up camp between all those bear trails on purpose!
he was waiting to be killed!
he should have done this alone and not drag that girl into it!
+obaidCarkey just imagine how she felt. The last things she saw...
+obaidCarkey DARWIN AWARD winner
+Jam1053428 She was deathly afraid of bears and Timothy provided her with a false sense of security and urged her to overcome her fears. You can't say he's 100% free of any responsibility.
+Jam1053428 you just sound bitter towards women. no one is defending her, we're looking at how she would have felt secure with him doing everything short of hugging the damn bears in front of her. calm your horses
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it s all black and white with you hey?
(i m canadian) (-:
this is sad, he truly thought he was connecting with them.
+darcy mimetz I think he had some major stress in his life. He could have lived with the animals just not this way. So incredibly sad.
Manchester Moon good point, there were other ways he could have lived with them. Safer ways. It's pretty hard headed to think he didn't need to carry bear spray living among wild grizzlys.
It's amazing he lasted 13 yrs out there!
Agree. Bear spray, pellet gun, anything "just incase". So sad though!
it's possible he did connect with them,they killed him but they are wild animals,how are they to know how fragile a human is,anything from a playfull wrestle to a single defensive / instinctive swipe can be fatal
B Murphy very true...
EMAN67 (Movies,politics,commentary) yes Eman, good point, it was an unfamiliar bear.. and with a nasty mean streak. Not to mention, like the documentary stated, staying there that extra week was a huge risk they were advised not to take since it was close to hibernation for the bears and they were still searching for last minute "calories" to make sure that they survived the winter... and yes, she was loyal to the end.
D Jones you're right, she was a grown woman capable of making her own decisions, but to call her an idiot and all that other garbage was a little harsh. Especially when all she said was he led her to her own death... not that he was responsible for it. So go suck ur own dick ya fuckin' prick. Geez... fuckin' spaz.
For an excellent read I suggest "The Grizzly Maze", by Nick Jans, a fellow Alaskan and well seasoned outdoorsman and author. In this book he examines the incident in great detail and with the cooperation of the Alaska Stae troopers, the rangers, the pilots and all involved .
Dear God- so sad- for his girlfriend to watch, then nowhere for her to hide.
It is a very interesting book.
I haven't any sympathy for the girlfriend. She reminds me of those women who marry men who they write to in a prison. She could have gone back on the plane and let Timothy stay the extra week. He'd been there alone before. Sounds like she wasn't even that into bears! Silly girl.
Dude was pretty fortunate to go as long as he did without getting attacked. The length of time only fueled his belief that he was untouchable
I think he guessed what was going to happen when he looked around while the wind was blowing and something was watching him.
He said he was "protecting these bears and this land," but he seems more like a sycophant. What did he really do for them...(other than ultimately provide them with a good meal, of course) ?
Total Narcissistic Personality and other screws loose too . At several points he would try to run off others peacefully observing the bears and threaten them going as far as acting and running like a bear . He honestly believed he was the only one that belonged there and knew what he was doing , I guess this explains why he ended up how he did . He was belligerent with park rangers and was dumb enough to lie to them , fought with them and defied them when he was corrected or told to use measures to protect himself .
The problem he didn't see is that they did what he did safely and did try to lay next to them or be their best mates .He was the only threat to the bears . In the time before and after he died there has never been a poaching problem and the people with Grizzly People know that .
It is almost a good thing he is gone because the park was kicking him out for good . I hate to think of what all types of hell he would have caused rangers and visitors when this happened . After seeing his tantrums and learning he was so bitter over supposedly not being chosen to play on Cheers ( he very well lied about even auditioning as he lied pathologically) I think he would have been a danger to other humans . Then there is always the case that had a bear not eaten him he would have picked a fight with the wrong visitors and they would have defended themselves .
He was all about his own fame. Not saying the guy didn't like animals, but he didn't understand them...and he used them for his own self promotion.
Chainsaw Kitten I agree . There were several things he did prior and during that point to the fact that he was a little fame hungry despite claiming the opposite . He lied many times about being all alone with the bears as he had girlfriends and groupies with him often filming and refilming to get the perfect shot , he lied multiple times about where he was from going as far as adopting fake accents , he fished for a permanent tv show after Steve Irwin landed a major show and was a huge success and he liked rubbing elbows with people like Leo Dicaprio . For one that supposedly didn't like people he did too many things that put him in a situation that got him on late night tv shows and around groups that ate up everything he did . None of this resembles anything one seeking solitude and working strictly as a conservationist does .
He obviously loved those bears a little too much but he showed a bitterness about people not respecting his self demanded authority and supposedly losing that spot on Cheers ( did that actually happen because no one else seems to remember him and his big audition ) . This was like his way of going for something big with Animal Planet but those " pesky" park rangers stood in his way . How dare them ( via his own filmed rant ) . Had he simply followed the rules , not lied to an outrageous extent and not primped and taken shot after shot ( often changing hats , fixing his hair and changing head gear ) when documenting the bears maybe there would be no room for the self fame argument but he did too much that screamed " love me , respect me and I am important " to dismiss the fact that he did not have altruistic motives .
I also am wondering where the severe child abuse proof is . People keep claiming this caused his behavior but other than some harsh but true words from his dad I have never found any proof of severe physical abuse . Was this bs as well to make him more marketable ?
And what about proof of poaching? He never ever went without a camera, and the one time he filmed people "abusing" bears (not poachers, but a bear watching group) he hid in the bushes the whole time, because in reality, he didn't have the balls to confront anyone....it's sad that he died the way he did, but I don't buy any of the crap he put out. Everyone talks about how much he sacrificed living as he did....but heck, I'd love to find a bunch of people with more money than good sense to fund me spending half the year camping and animal watching instead of actually working for a living. The guy made his choice to live the way he did, and he paid the price. Sad, what happened, and the authorities should have booted him out of Alaska years before - because he really was living an illusion. Bears don't give a fuck about people. Trained bears raised from Cubs have killed people. I read a book about treadwell, written by Nick Jan's.. At the end of the book, last chapter, he describes seeing a bear on one of his trips to Kaflia after the deaths, a big old male fishing at the waters edge..."at our approach he climbed laboriously up the bank, huffing, and tried to hide his enormous almost ridiculously fat bulk behind a half bare alder. In another few days he clamber up the mountain, burrow into his den, and go to sleep for the winter. He didn't need anything from us. He wasn't our friend. He had no name. All he wanted was to be left alone." Those few, simple sentences sum up animal conservation for me. Yes, they need our help - but they don't need us in their faces. Treadwell's interaction and relationships with those bears was all about HIS needs, whether he was aware of it or not. He was mentally ill, in my opinion, and someone should have saved HIM...from himself. Ah well, too late now.
Chainsaw Kitten I want more info on his childhood . I understand his dad used some unkind words about Timmy screwing up but I can promise I was told worse for doing nothing .
There is a very prominent train of thought and claims of severe severe child abuse by Tim ' s dad by his die hard fans . He claimed he was severely beaten regularly and was subjected to chronic verbal abuse but not a person will confirm this . I bring this up because his supporters claim this was why he was so vigilant of the bears , didn't trust humans and was so daffy .
As a true abuse victim I have never used my abuse to excuse bad behavior , lied about it and I would never see the link in abuse and being such a giant narcissistic lying ass . Abuse does cause issues in some but Tim was such a liar who knows what the truth is ? He claimed he was from England , he claimed he was an abused orphan from Australia that turned surf bum and the story about nearly being Woody on Cheers was greatly exaggerated ( he was a damn drama queen with horrid acting skills )so how does anything he claimed ever be considered the truth without extensive research . Hell , he wasn't even alone in Alaska many of the times he claimed he was .
I wonder if it ever dawned on people that he was a egotistical jerk that lied so much he actually believed his own bs . His rants on The Alaska Park Service and the lack of rain show what a creepy narcissist he could be and that he was a spoiled diva . He also had a very well documented inability to get along with others and blew little matters out of normal limits , even in people that bent over to let him break rules . In the end he got what he wanted but the guy was no hero . I see him as a Peter Pan type man-child that could not tell the truth , caused trouble anywhere he went and often threw those helping him under the bus . I am glad at least the bears didn't care about him and proved him wrong . They were animals doing what normal animals do . Not his stuffed Teddy Bear that you could just play with .
He had most of his scalp torn off, both forearms, and part of a shoulder. Apparently when they found his upper body, his face was all contorted in pain as well.... what a terrible death.
On the recoding you could year him screaming continuously. He had no idea how this furry thing before him had suddenly changed into an actual bear and was eating him!
@boink what you heard is fake
@@donaven58 Has the recording been released? I'd be surprised if it has. On the other hand, maybe it would deter others from acting as foolishly as this man did.
Donaven Pierce , not fake, Alaska is not Hollywood, ignorant one!
@@troyottosen8722 You're actually the ignorant one. The official tape was never released because that's cruel. Who genuinely wants to hear a man and women fighting for their lives? The tapes are and should be credited as reenactments. You'll see one is credited as a reenactments, and are the same as the ones that has no credit on them.
The song at the end is called Coyotes, by Don Edwards.
Omg thank you
Was the song in memory to him or NO it was just a random song ?
@@joeblowjohnny2297 Judging by the lyrics I'd say it is definitely not a memory to him.
Timothy said “ these Bears love me”. They sure did, he tastes like Chicken!!
The guy obviously had a screw or two loose but spending as much time as he did out there is impressive. I think he truly believed in what he was doing, which is more than most can say.
Dude, they didn't need taking care of by you. They needed to be left alone. "It's the only thing I want to know." Truer words were never spoken. He brought about his own death through his arrogance.
Bears need cares but not his way . . .
He seems like a sweet man. I think his intensions were real. I would never have the courage to even try this. Sleep well Tim, you were a good man.
Bears don't like him, that's all . . . how do you feel if a gay says " I really love you, really . . . " .
Those bears were not his cuddly friends covered by thick layers of fur. Like any wild animal, they are extremely dangerous and unpredictable. Treadwell had some screws loose.
Another accurate judgment.
There are always few delusional people in this world . . . In Tim's case, getting fames makes his fate inevitable . . .
Important to note: He spent every summer in close proximity to bears that had access to an abundance of fish that were available from the river at the location he was at. The bears had access to their preferred food source (fish) and more than likely, tolerated and ignored Treadwell. Which does not mean that he had some kind of cosmic connection or bond with them. They just allocated their attention to the food source from the river. By staying late his final season, he found out how an undernourished, hungry bear behaves. And that is how any bear that is hungry will respond to a potential food source when necessary. Treadwell died due to untreated mental illness: bipolar disorder, narcissism, histrionic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder and manic delusional states. (And I want to add Tueret's syndrome based on his epic use of the 'F' word in numerous video clips. . . "Fck, . . Fckn' Fck!!"
Wow torrents? Makes sense to me
Did he actually have all these mental illnesses or are you just diagnosing him from watching a couple clips?
The bears was doing fine untill he came around. Bears got killed because of him!!!
And what medications were you prescribing him for all these diagnosed conditions, Doctor? (Don’t respond if it breaches patient file confidentiality......we understand.)
And he didn't believe in God! Then hes getting mauled and crying for God! What kind of stupid girl would date that dude
When I was first diagnosed with stage 4 colorectal cancer , the first thing that came to mind was that I wasn't going to die in a hospital bed. I am an outdoors guy , not so much of a religious guy, but I do believe that the good Lord cannot forgive suicide . I felt that a good way to go was the route that Brad Pitt took in the film "Legends of the Fall " . After viewing numerous photo's online of Grizzly attacks , I changed my mind & decided I would "accidentally" slip and fall into a bottomless mineshaft . But good luck and good doctors changed all that , and after 6 months of Chemo, Radiation, and Surgery , it looks like I'm gonna be around for a while . But seeing how my first thought was the Grizzly , I'm gonna get a Grizz tattoo on my left shoulder.
You should get a tat of the lord he saved your ass not a dam bear .
You still alive bro?
"I die for them." Sadly, true.
LOVE that closing coyote song - "Coyotes" by Bob McDill.
He made too many mistakes. I don't feel sad for him. I feel sad for his girl friend . ..
He said he'd die FOR the bears, but I don't know why it never occurred to him, that he would die BECAUSE OF the bears. He got too close to nature and its unforgiving brutality.
I think he was very aware of that possibility
@@leonconnelly5303he was he even eerily said the bear who ended up killing him was just looking an opportunity to kill him and he couldnt befriend it .
Treadwell knew exactly what he was getting himself into.... neither, man nor beast could convince him otherwise!!!
This guy was about as smart as th average Portland, Oregon resident.
@@j.c.benson very good life, thanks
@@j.c.benson I know Portlandians. That is a correct observation.
Curtis, you're being way too generous!
@@scuttfarcus7278 you are probably right lol
Snow flake
The way he kept turning his head to look around, gave of the impression that he was nervous and uncomfortable. At least that's how it look to me. It's a lot different than his earlier films. I read that he stayed longer than he usually would have and began to become more reckless and had a stronger desire to cut himself from society. He also stated that some of the bears in the area he didn't know made him nervous.
And his ignorance got two bears needlessly killed
Its typical of narcisstic assholes like treadwell who only think of themselves and ignore the collateral damage to innocent others because of their actions
Love the song...played it at my fathers funeral, he was a deeply nature connected person....missyoudad 🥲
He put in danger the bears and not only was psychotically ill he had to drag someone else into his deluded world and took an innocent life. Then you have people who have to go there and clean-up/rescue, they are all put at risk too.
Anthropomorphizing a wild animal almost always leads to tragedy whether the person, the animal or both. The bear that finally attacked Timothy was only doing what bears naturally do but it cost Timothy his life, that of his girlfriend and the life of the bear. The best you can do for wild animals is let them stay wild. Pretending you have a connection with them that they were never programmed by nature to have is doing the worst for them not "Loving" them. If Timothy wanted to love them he should have left them alone.
When you think you’re a bear.... but in reality you’re a snack.
The only predator I fear is a bear. Sharks can swallow my carcass while lions grab a hold of my lifeless neck. A bear rips through your skull and eats you alive, not a good way to die.
@Sin Synn you're forgetting one big difference between the two. One's eating you on dry land with plenty of air to breath as you scream and the other is thrashing you around underwater as you drown in less than a minute
@Sin Synn based on some of the videos I've seen carnivores that hunt solo do indeed go for the killing blow, bears on the other hand usually only cripples stuff in the initial attack before they start eating
@Francis Sailo I fight griz with my bare hands. And I'm here still today. Can you skin griz pilgrim?
I think it’s easier to be killed by a Jaguar or Lion as they go for the throat and put you to sleep or the head and it’s an instant kill. Hyenas, wolfs and bears is a painful way to go. Flesh being torn from limb and all.
And the worse of them all is a polar bear, when they see you you're on top of the menu
Regardless of the way he lived, this man was a kind and gently soul. Anyone who loves animals like that and can form relationships with them, like those foxes, is amazing and a light in darkness. He didn't deserve to suffer the way he did in the end. May he rest in peace .
Wrong he was a danger to both parties and was dealt with according to his wishes
I have hunted the peninsula 3 times,,, EVERY trip we have had Foxes hang out in our camp,,, same thing in the Brooks range,, we were feeding them with our hands,,, every trip to peninsula we have been charged, i dont camp down there without a electric fence, i lived in Alaska 16 years, never heard of any poaching of Bears on the peninsula, he said he was alone,, Liar , he was pulling a con on everyone and he got caught,, nothing special about him,,,bears are like humans, some nice, some curious, some just out right MEAN,, when i say nice, i dont mean you can pet them, i mean they mind their own business if you dont bother them and stay your distance
umm no. I think people like him are far too common, people who don't know their boundaries
@@chiefsosa077how was he a danger to the bears
@@Ogugua-k1wwhat world do you live in exactly most people are cowards
"I live for then, I DIE for them...". Ooh its un-bear-ably ironic.
+Lucy Bulloch it was certainly a grizzly situation and hard to bear.
+Lucy Bulloch yeah, he sure did die for them. He provided food for an old, hungry grizzly---he served up HIMSELF. What an "out-of-touch with reality", delusional fool.
+Lucy Bulloch Yes he came to a grisly end and his story was laid bare for all to see.
He already anticipated his own death that maybe those wild bears will eventually maul him to death.
bain sidhe lol
Btw, what job, what taking care of bears, a person there would only get in the way of there yearly cycle of life, he sounds unstable, what's he think he's doing for the bears, he's not building bear dens, he became a figment of his imagination, that somehow his presence was saving them, from what?
If he had a death wish, that’s one thing. His girlfriend was something else. Her loss was many times worse. Bad choice of a boyfriend, very bad.
A lot of times women seek out a man who is unstable as they are, you see it in everyday life when they gravitate towards the "badboy"... then later regret it
Can you really blame the bear when these couple camped close to the river, at a time when bears needed to eat a lot to prepare for winter?
He says the work is done. The bears are safe and on their way to hybernation etc etc.
Did he really think that the bears could not have done their bear thing without him or that he really made a difference. The main difference was that there was this guy running around in the grass with a stick in his ass talking to the bears as if they could understand him. All the bears knew was that they had been doing fine for thousands of years and now some human kook is running around annoying the bears. Then one bear finally said hey I'm going to eat this dude, he looks pretty tasty...End of story.
Doodle Dee Doodle Doo....
Finger lickin' good!
@@kahunastev don't they have paws?
And then the Bear got Blasted away
He was a narcissist that thought he was becoming nature itself before he got eaten alive.
@@linkinparkrulz2275 I guess technically he became a part of nature that day
That's disturbing. The most terrifying fear comes from the nature, it's intrinsic when the darkness comes upon you and you just start to hear the noises of something moving near you. Nature is beautiful but also fatal for the men. But that's not a reason to hate, just for respect.
Don White...
It’s okay Don. Your time is coming too.
Nature looks beautiful but in fact is not beautiful.
Don’t try and immortalize an obviously mentally ill man. His death, while tragic, was also unnecessary and stupid. He was ignorant and got his girlfriend killed with him. Don’t try to make a hero of someone who defied all warnings and ended as predicted.
Thank you!
They knew the risk now let them rest....
You Americans love throwing and over using that "ignorant" word alot huh? Its your entire vocabulary along with the "irrelevant " one
I think it's still pretty amazing how close he was with those bears. Yes he was crazy but he lived the life he wanted and died how he lived.
It's not what Herzog's movie does. Herzog's movie is an attempt to make sense of the human disposition and Treadwell's death. So other dumbfucks can learn from it. For Herzog, as he says, the universe consists of death, struggle and horror. Treadwell is proof for that to Herzog...
You play with beers you get eaten
for some reason we watched this documentary in English class. It was simultaneously beautiful, tragic, ugly, and disturbing. Yes his actions may seem crazy and he was delusional, but I see a man who just wanted to find happiness and acceptance, and found that in the wilderness spending time with the bears, not in the human world, even though he did it in a way that was inappropriate. The bond he had with them was truly special. I looked into him more. The bear that killed him was one from another area, not one of the bears he had spent 13 summers with, and he was in the wilderness later in the year when many of the bears he was used to were hibernating. If he had just left at the usual time, he probably would still be alive today.
This man was certifiably insane...watch him on Letterman, he's so full of himself it's laughable
robbopaloobop all these “revolutionary” people are garbage...other than that, no one deserves to die like that...
@@FrancoJ-c7p ""revolutionary" people"... Some "revolutionary" people died in the past so you could freely express your nonsensical thoughts. Revolution and Delusion are two different things.
This is the danger of treating animals (and wild animals at that) like if they were people.
What he did was incredible and will never be repeated, thanks Timothy, rest in peace
You can bet he changed his mind when that big Griz started throwing him around like a rag doll & pulling him apart.....GULP!
Manic depressive man who had "issues" to say the least.
Loving nature and respecting nature are two different things.
This man seems the epitome of the quote “I’d rather die doing what I love than live doing what I hate”
Human society isn’t for everyone. Some men are meant to become one with nature.
Agree !
What he did was illegal, but I guess two wrongs make a right today.
@@ge2623 Not according to the National Park Service report ,which is available online. "The subjects were in compliance with park camping regulations.
The subjects had not obtained a backcountry permit for the Kaflia Lake campsite that was optional in 2003." That's from the report and it says it was "optional" to get a permit so it wasn't illegal what they were doing
@@lucancherby in the documentary it says that he was constantly in violation of the rule that you have to a keep a certain distance from the bears. He also toward the end started to violate the rule that you have to move your place of camping at least a mile every 10 days or something like that, which he didn't want to do because he wanted to stay in the grizzly maze.
This man died doing what he loved, screaming in pain and begging his girlfriend to save herself.
I almost got a feeling like he knew he was going to put himself into harms way... like that's how he wanted it to end
Exactly
Thank you grizzly for not letting "grizzly man," contaminate the gene pool. Darwinism at it's best.
I have recently deleted my previous comments after realizing how immature and douchey i was. RIP Tim.
@ So Kansas, he should be a BIG bitch like you? Ooooo. Thanks folks, I'll see myself out.
Fuck off u guys he lived and learned and clearly bettered himself. I've done the same a couple years after I made a comment stumbled back upon it and didn't like what I said or agree with my thoughts then anymore as I was older and wiser by then. Respect to you brother may you always find a better version of yourself to become!
Richard G..
He said. How’s your mom doing?
Richard.
AWESOME!
Good for you fellow human
He's not the only bear expert that was killed by a bear, they are some of the most unpredictable animals on the planet
This man was warned many times and the fact that these r wild animals no matter how much time he spent with them was dangerous. I just question his mental state by the way he acted and talked...
"I'd die for these animals.".......
Well played sir. Well played.
Humans are known to cannibalize other when starving. This is a fascinating story in that he spent a incredible amount of time in the area with no harm done to him. As time goes on and more is learned about animals this will be valuable footage to learn from. He did it out of love not fear which is why I think he was successful for so long. I would not have enough courage to try it.
He wrote a book called 'Grizzly Man'; I believe it explains his early years. He really loved being around the animals and knew the risk involved. While I disagreed with some of his choices (mostly because of his methods, which sometimes put the animals at risk) I don't think we need to call him names and belittle him. Whatever happened to not speaking ill of the dead? He died doing what he loved most in the world. We should all be so lucky. RIP, Grizzly man.
+Lady Alibat yes, I've watched the entire documentary including the interview with the Denali park ranger who said, "I think the bears felt sorry for him. They thought he was retarded. "
Of course you can speak I’ll when they harm the living. He killed his girlfriend who did not share his delusions or beliefs, but trusted him and believed in him (not what he believed in). Her family will grieve for the rest of their lives. He was a selfish prick to bring her along, and take advantage of her faith in him.
@@sadiaansari4574 girl friend was an adult
I couldn't help but laugh when the pilot was singing along to that song and then was like, "And Treadwell's gone."
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God bless u Timothy Treadwell! U had ur issues as we all do, u just wanted to be apart of something bigger and u were! Rest well Tim🙏
Poor man. What Tim Treadwell did for Grizzlies is to record these animals so we understood them and we felt the need to protect them and the land through legislation. The interpreters of an unknown species are always doing great work to bring the rest of us the awareness and understanding of this animal or human. Look what Jacques Cousteau did for marine life, and Steve Irwin for crocs, Keith Richardson for lions, Austin Steven for snakes, and Timothy Treadwell for Grizzly bears.
Yes, deep down I also believe he had a death wish. He was hooked on drugs, then took foolish risks with bears, and finally went too far. But look at what he left us.., hundreds of hours of grizzly bear behavior, a huge awareness of these magnificent beasts, an empathy with them, a deeper understanding of sharing the planet with them.
Tim Treadwell's actions in endangering his life and his girlfriend's life are not mine to judge. He paid the ultimate price for his poor judgment, so let him rest in peace. I am deeply grateful to Tim and the Grizzly People for giving us this incredible footage and gift of empathy, for making us see what he saw. These bears are awesomely powerful, as magnificent as dinosaurs and once we lose them, we lose a huge part of the diverse family of life we share this planet with.
Thank you Werner Herzog for making this film, Tim Treadwell for your gift to bears, and the poster of this film which was so moving.
Lass-in Angeles I wonder if you’d say those words to his girlfriend’s grieving family. Especially after they learned from the movie that their daughter wanted to leave earlier, that she was terrified of bears. You are not one to judge. If he hadn’t killed her too I’d agree with you, but he caused harm to another person so whatever legacy he leaves is worth spitting on.
I can 't stop hating the way he kept saying "I love them ". For God's sake,these are wild animals in the wild & they will always remains wild animals.
Punches a bear in the face - "Don't you ever do that!"
after some seconds: "I love you, I love you , its ok , I love you"
It is truly heartbreaking to read through these comments below. Timothy Treadwell died for what he believed in. I'm sure He was fully aware of the fact he was flirting with death every minute spent in that land but that's what comes with his destiny. Any destiny consists of obstacles. I will not criticize anyone who labels him insane but in the end he was living the dream and certainly not giving a damn about what others thought of him. He loved those bears, he loved the nature. He loved his life. Not many people are like that in today's material world.
Don't know about that, but I strongly believe he thought he was invincible to the Bears.
so be it, dude lived the dream and didn't cost him a penny. Pure nature, either way death is his manifest destiny, much love
very true. He is to be respected before being criticized for taking risks. Adults make these decisions and they live or die by them. Their choices......
He didn't love the bears, he didn't respect them, he got them killed.
Man, put away your unicorns and rainbows. This clown played Russian roulette for 13 years and eventually wound up as the main course of his beloved "babies". He ought to be the poster boy for the Darwin awards, forever!
Tim found it difficult to walk among people, felt, out of place, we too sometimes. Tim's problem was he loved to deeply, a depth of love not understood by bear and human alike.
Rest in peace to these lovely people, he had good intentions but just went about them in a delusional manner. Unfortunate how everything happened. I pray their families find peace after these awful events.
Cute
What did Tim ever do that can be seen as "... taking care of them..." He made all the wrong moves when it came to loving bears. When you habituate wild animals to humans you do nothing but sign their death warrant. If Tim wanted to do something good for the bears or any wild life he would have known to leave them alone! He caused the death of 6 bears which were all killed as tthey looked for the one that ate him and Amy. How is this protecting the bears? Tim was a mental case at best.
The Mr. Rogers of the bear neighborhood. He was a fool of high standing.
The music is very moving including the pilot singing
This man died because of his lack of knowledge on how to read bears behavior. He wasn’t a real specialist. He knew some stuff but not enough to know when you should leave. This happens at the very end of the feasting season, when bears have to eat before long. The bear was late in the season. All the salmon were gone, most of them eaten by the other bears that were there earlier. He was desperately hungry. On an other footage, we can see him diving into the depths of a river searching for some uneaten salmon at the bottom on the water. Then we can see that he is alone with Tim, the woman is filming and the bear is watching them intensively. At this point they are both already doomed. A real phd specialist would have said it’s time to go, the bear is desperate. When the beast was in the river, they should have left right there......
This is the most profound scene in self-cinematography ever produced. Whistling by the wind. Seeking through the sanity. Glancing past the graveyard. He was life-filled yet an empty soul. God bless Timothy Treadwell. 🙏🏻✝️🤍
If Werner directed it - in fact if Werner directed anything?
-it's an automatic classic.
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If he had been sane, he would have realized that he was intruding and it just a matter of time before the inevitable happened.
May God love this man his love for animals unparalleled he lived his dream When Death came he was not surprised may you rest in peace
Werner Herzog is an incredible filmaker, his observations are spot on.
Treadwell was warned repeatedly by U.S. Forest Rangers that his unprofessional behavior was not only putting his (and his girlfriends) life at risk, but was detrimental to the bears. He was an unnecessary distraction to them at a critical time when they needed to put on maximum weight gain if they hoped to survive the long Alaskan winter. Why do some people insist on romanticizing his story? No one heard of him until the bear killed them, and there`s been absolutely no evidence that his "work" provided any insight into bear behavior, except the fact that an old bear, as this one was, who can`t catch enough salmon to fatten up enough to survive hibernation will seek alternative sources of protein. Treadwell and his girlfriend were easy prey, and if he understood bear behavior and needs at all, he would have realized the danger they were in.
+ D J Koenig. Very well said about those who thought he deserved it. What a cruel thing to say about anybody. People make jokes about the audio of his death while I was upset for weeks having to hear people dying a horrible n terrifying death. It just stuns me the lack of compassion.
+Heather Gall Don't open Pandora's box unless you're willing to see what's inside and accept the consequences. This guy was a lunatic and egomaniac. BEARS FIGHT OTHER BEARS for encroaching on each others turf, never mind a human 1/5 their size, who's bumbling around THEIR SPACE. The Male who ate him probably gave him signs in BEAR LANGUAGE to get the F$%K out of his territory but this asshole probably thought the Grizzly wanted a hug. I'm astonished he survived as long as he did.
+shivakrishnarama You're absolutly right.
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@El Padre con Verga Larga It probably is. Somebody said that the video probably got leaked and they covered up that illegality by claiming it's a "re-enactment." It is very hard for an adult to fake scream at all, much less to seem to be going through all that. But, I haven't listened and don't want to.