Concord Didn't Even Last 24 Hours
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Concord is out from Firewalk Studios and it has performed far worse than I had expected it would. This is a huge loss for Playstation as the game easily cost over $100 million to make. While this is bad for the folks over at Firewalk I am going to talk about how I hope this will be another thing decent investors can point to so we can get back to funding good games instead of garbage to pander to the modern audience.
fun fact this video has more views than concord has players
This video has more LIKES than concord has players
That's what happens when you have a human talking rather than an ideology
Gollum has more players than concord. Let that sink in
So does this comment lol
😂 yep
There were more developers working on this game than actual people playing it.
...which shows that even devs themselves don't play it lmao
@@Morrow16 tbf as a developer, I also often feel the urge to not touch any of the games I've worked on for a long time or ever again after they're finished. If you're a good developer, then by that point you'll already have played the game to death lol
@@squiddler7731 I don't think it's necessarily a rule, but good point nonetheless 😁
Btw, what games were you working on? You got me intrigued :)
Bruhhh lol
@@Morrow16lmaoo
If a game releases and there is no one to play it, does it even exist?
Yes .. and it turns into a cult classic 5 years later when a group of players finds it
But not this game lol
Their target audience did not exist yet. Sadly its live service game and wont be preserved.
@@Ryomichi "Fortunately"
*Stares in Babylon's Fall*
That's deep.
"Dead on arrival" bro?
this shit is BURRIED on arrival
It was born with a casket
My dead sex life has more game and potential than this PoS.
Cremated on conception.
Well since woke people like ab0rtions so much. What can you expect?
Stillborn game
The fact that we got this instead of bloodborne 60fps boggles my mind.
Just shows where Sony's priorities are rn...The PlayStation is best at single-player games, Focus on single-player games and profits will comeback.
@@michael-pm5ktDon't forget that trash like Forspoken can exist too. The root of the problem is that Sony is heavily under the influence of California, seeing that it's based there. They keep trying to attract people who simply do not play games.
@DJAizakku they def need to go back to Japan.
@@DJAizakku That's another truth, The move to move to California was weird and shows how their games went downhill slowly but surely.
Y’all need to move on 😂
How did this game take 8 years to make? Red dead redemption 2 took 8 years.
8 years of meticulously designing the least attractive characters possible.
Pretty sure skulls and bones a Ubisoft game took 7-10 years to make and it’s a whole mess. These companies just don’t give up
Constantly making and scrapping content due to trends will do that. Quantity of dev time does not mean quality.
Let's be real the dev probably just tweet all day instead of working.
Because of pronouns. That takes time to develop
A.) Money laundering scheme
B.) Government funded
C.) Complete incompetence
D.) All of the above
E.) All of the above and possibly more
F.) they didn’t see the world didn’t want it
Its B
When something fails as badly as Concord or Dustborn I always wonder if that was the goal, like in that old movie The Producers, where they needed their project to fail but it didn't. But given the Woke proclivity to always see themselves as heroes even when they're clearly making a mess of things, I don't think they're capable of such forethought. Like communism itself, which looks good on paper but always inevitably leads to disaster, they will continue to believe they created great games and will blame "toxic gamers" for not appreciating their greatness.
Concord is the first game as a service released from Sony's mastermind plan.
There were 12 live service games planed during the terrible Jim Ryan CEO era, 1/2 were cut, 6 are in active development and Concord is one of those 6 live service games.
It wouldn't be a big surprise for me to find out that Sony basically burned ~1billion $ in developing of these games.
What's worse is that Ryan sold pretty much everyone at Sony that they would get a lot money with those f*cking games as a service.
He left the company before seeing the results of that decision, and developers will suffer the consequences.
So there's 5 games left? was Helldivers 2 one of those games?
Sony is fucking up bad lol
Add to the fact they closed all of if not most of their Japan studios. The ones the actually made stuff people liked. Smaller games that could release between bigger titles.
Now they don't have that to fall back on. They messed up big time.
Sony are sellout dumb losers who came to America just to turn into Marxist jokes. The sooner they go bankrupt and are swept into the dustbin of history the better.
Overwatch porn has more views than Concord players.
WAY more.
Tbf, even overwatch doesn't have that amount of players like literally
it's around 10K+ players
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad If you're talking about Concord, this is pure cap. It peaked at 697 people on Steam with half that in-game right now. I highly, highly doubt that the PS5 audience is over ten times that. Maybe double if you're lucky.
overwatch porn has more views than overwatch tbf
the fact that one of the devs started insulting people on social networks, blocking any criticism even fair ones. i have no pitty for that kind of behavior. i thought you had to be 18+ to develop a game
Well, considering the situation, I found it kind of funny. 😄 The devs must be stressed out, and may see the media/YT coverage as poisoning public opinion of the game before launch.
It is poisoning of public opinion but is it wrong? It's a trash game trying to push gay agenda onto people while being devoid of anything actually cool or unique and is simply trying to pull brownie points for fake diversity when it's rlly just "Look we like you black/gay/trans weirdo freaks now give me money."
@@_theduckofdeath_ I am find it uplifting that they are all soon going to be out of a job
@@lcmiracle Ah...That's not cool. It might be a likely outcome, but I wouldn't wish it on them.
It was not a current dev. That person used to work on the game but quit. I dont think he or she represents the actual developers
the modern audience DID show up. all 600 of them, world wide. sukcess!
666 to be exact.
No one asked for this game, way late to the party and brought great value chips.
I disagree., there are a lot of people that want a fun overwatch replacement as the old game has gone of the rails but this failed miserably
No one asked for it, but it’s better that they made their own game rather than ruining something else. Imagine if this was a guardians of the galaxy ip.
Don't insult great value chips like that
😂😆
Whats wrong with Great Value chips? 😂
•100 Million Development Cost
•Sony spent 50-10 Million on Purchasing Firewalk studios
•Jim Ryan got to retire with Millions
10 - 50 mil or 50-100 million?
@@Trymeplays What do you think champ? Seems pretty clear what he meant.
@@TravisHi_YT No one usually puts a higher number before a lower number when showing an numerical example like that? My question still stands.
I read that Sony paid 300mil…
Don't worry, the entirety of the modern audience came out to play it
Yep, all 600 of them!
(It's uncanny how many of these games peak at around 600 people.)
@@DudeTheMighty 600 of 2 billion people on earth
What 2 billion people on Earth? Expand
What’s modern audience again? I don’t know if you mean younger people or something else
@Cubeytheawesome social justice warriors, the people obsessed with pronouns and such as they are a vocal minority online. like I know I don't really care one way or another about the "woke" stuff, but they try to pander with no real substance or any real game underneath.
Thier biggest mistake is launching the game on the same week as Dustborn, the modern audience is way too busy playing that right now.
That games got just as few players 😂
Their biggest mistake was launching Concord, period!
sir, this game got more player than dustborn
Polish their resume. As in, nah "i didnt work on concord for the last 8 years. Just homeIess under a bridge."
That would be less damaging to your job seeking 😂
I mean they’ve gained skills from working on it
@@XxSTACKxX like maxed out DEl attributes
@@sunso1991the DEI aint even that bad, like it doesn’t pander like other games do. Overwatch for example
Utter bs though
Western gaming companies think Live Services are the future... Meanwhile good single player games are just making massive amounts of money.
Feels like china funding dei so west devs produce flops thus chinese products get 0 competition
At the end of the day,mulitiplayer can and does make more money
@@Vampshroom420 Suicide squad almost broke WB, that's not a rule it is an exception.
It does make more money but it’s not a stable strategy if you don’t make them a pipeline of content or can’t see it is over done at this point and no one wants a new one unless it does something impressive. Single player or storyline based co op is probably more of the practical for money if you can’t do something incredibly unique with a overwatch knockoff.
@@rungunninja1289 there is limited space for live service games, whereas with SP, you can just play one after the other, since one begins where the other ends. It's more reliable than banking on the next big thing. Maybe they should work on one or two good live service games and otherwise stick with the reliable $$.
Is the modern audience in the room with us now?
Its john cena
The modern audience is mostly adults born in the 80s ,90s and the new gamers are stuck playing COD and fortnight 😂
“Oh course! Can’t you see it standing right next to big foot?”
🤡I actually love it when businesses obviously pander rather then having a vision for their product. 🤡
"If your game doesn't make massive memories, then it better have massive mammaries "
we need big budgets instead of budget cuts. _*Fleek probably*
So much for that massive modern audience. Star Wars Outlaws coming next…can’t wait.
Where are that massive modern audience.jpg
@@apophisstr6719 oh, theyre massive. only thing is, its not by headcount but by bodyweight
@@OlegInTheDark oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@@OlegInTheDark oh snap son, aint that the truth!
Outlaws will crash so damn bad, people are finally fed up for real with this shitty games trend
They say it was developed for 8 years. They meant to say it was developed by an eight year old.
"Yeah, we just spent six years partying and made this in two. Why do you ask?"
Oh common, an 8 years would make something way cooler.
This is actually unreal, even Golum has more players, months after release.
No it doesn't. There's 5 people playing it. Lol. And the most players they ever had online was like 170.
@@IOwnCows
All time peak for Gollum was 758.
The all time peak for concord was 697.
So he is *technically* right that Gollum had more players.
@@bahamutdragon1754
Oh Oops. I looked at the average player count by mistake. Steam charts said the all time peak was 502 though.
So I guess we're comparing two different charts either way
That's only because Gollum has the Lord of the Rings IP attached to it. Lore nuts will eat it up, no matter how bad it is.
Apparently, all these 600 players are a "modern audience"! The question is whether 2 billion other players should be sacrificed for them?
Wait a minute... EIGHT years?! 8!?
Where they watching gay porn for 7 years and 11 months as "research" and then they said "oh shit, we need to get this done next month!" And that's how this crap was created?
Hey 8 years for several maps and a dozens of Heroes is pretty good😂😂😂
More like they tucked in for the last 7 minutes and this is the result
Hahahaha
On the plus side, everyone who is playing this game is a top 500 player
I sympathize for Concord, I can't last very long either 😔
same
haha, y'all need to take some ginseng, do tons of cardio, sleep well, drink water and lay off the booze and sugary drinks. Do however eat water melons regularly and do jelqing exercises two to three times a week for half an hour per set. DO NOT FINISH, lay off the exercise if you are getting too excited then resume. Do these things and you will become a slayer like me. You are most welcome. :)
You can last longer than Concord. I believe in you
How ignorant can be? There is a modern audience! There's about 600 of them.
Probably more like 400. 200 or so is probably bots or devs or family of devs.
I feel like you missed the most important point. It has to be ENTERTAINING. It’s the entertainment industry and when they try to inject social messages, it often messes up the entertainment part as well as angering the customers that it supposed to entertain. It goes against the ENTERTAINING part. If you don’t say it, your video feels somehow empty and devoid of the subplot/main point.
When I first saw the trailer and the girl let go of the hand and fell down into a spaceship when they could’ve climbed back up, my thought was, “ we’re supposed to like these idiots who willingly want to plummet to their deaths? The writer didn’t learn that the first rule to sympathetic characters are that they’re supposed to be likeable??? It bothered me on a subconscious level that we’re supposed to sympathize with idiots. Save the cat is a thing, and it’s not go leap off a cliff based on a feeling that a spaceship will miraculously appear beneath you to save your life and the life of your best bud. And I thought - this game was written by Hacks. Goes without saying, Whatever politics that allowed the hacks to be hired in the first place, that political mechanism needs to be stopped. But, in the end, the game has to be ENTERTAINING. Whatever social messaging has to be subservient to the entertainment aspect and if it goes against the entertaining aspect, it has to be cut out like a cancer. Broke back mountain worked even though it was literally the gayest movie ever made because the social message serviced the entertainment aspect of telling a simple love story. The problem is when the social messaging supersedes the entertainment aspect which automatically makes whatever game or movie or story extreme and un-entertaining.
THIS^ its all fun to joke and dogpile on a bad game, but at least if your making a review of something, actually look into why it failed instead of just parroting the same shtick *dei and woke* all the salttubers have been doing to drive viewers to their channel/videos. but i guess DEI is the new scapegoat, and people are going to keep throwing it around to cover for them just making bad products in general.
I disagree with the first statement, i think that no matter the concept or odea you have, if your execution is good then the result will be good, obviously games are for the entertainment but you can still have a message in it that doesn't ruin the game, i know this is an example of a series and not a game but i still feel like this fits, Blue eye Samurai is an amazing show with great writing and there's a lot of racism and sexism (it's set in old era japan) but it's handled as a part of the story that actually contributes to the narrative
But yeah if you "inject" a social message where it's nonsensical then guess what happens
Someone checked on the page RULE34 for Concord having the amazing and unexpected amount of.... zero fan art.... ZERO!!
When no cossplayer or artist wants to make anything of your game, you're a failure... my condolences to the character designer for ruining it's career with this game.
You truly hit rock bottom as designer if even r34 dont touch your characters, the people that turm EVERYTHING into corn
@@The_Moodi y'know you're playing these people's game every time you censor yourself like that. We all know what you mean for now, but I heard a news station use 'unalive' the other day and I didn't know what had happened. #JUST1984THINGS
@@Sharky1986 The other choice is the platform deleting your comment, which it often does anyway and for no obvious reason.
"Someone" just checked again. Still nothing.
@@Sharky1986 Comments get removed. They aren't changing their vernacular to agree with the system, they are using the rules in place. #YOUDIDN'TREADTHEBOOK
game devs need to learn that twitter goblins and reset era goobers are only in it for the drama and toxicity, they don't even bother to play or support the games they crusade about
Tourists..
As a recovering Twitter user, I can confirm. Most of Twitter exists only to spread discourse and negativity and despair.
One of the devs even attacked people that didn't like the game by calling them talentless. You can't make this shit up. A game with less than 200 concurrent players tells you who is the real talentless ones.
Doesn't matter what field you work in, don't attack potential customers. It's super unprofessional, and the only times I've really seen it is from developers that were, get this, talentless.
You reap what you sow. They were given plenty of information and opportunity to make changes to their game and behaviors long before launch day. Yes some of the information was more aggressive then others but that happens to every game. They did not prepare themselves for the stiff competition properly. So it's no surprise that this happen. It's hard to feel bad for people/companies that dig their own graves. Welcome to the real world, where money matters.
Apparently it's bad when people aren't represented in a game, so where's my white male character.
There is one.
Did you just assume thier gender@@SvenHeidemann-uo2yl
Nah, let's not go here. Representation is fine, Overwatch did it fine. Concord is *pandering*, and pandering is shit.
@@Seoul_Soldier representation for thee, but not for me?
You get the generic white soldier. Pretty much all you're gonna get in a "Diverse" game.
The entire modern audience are too busy producing this garbage. Therefore they have no time to actually consume it.😂
We lost Japan Studio for this...
The 'modern audience'™ is very loud on social media. But it's a very small group. And unless each of them is going to buy a product 10, 20 or 100 times over... Every product made for them is going to fail. 🥳
inb4 you realize Twitter is mostly bots, and most of the "Modern audience" is just like 500 people running a few thousand bots each.
For some reason they decided to populate a "Hero Shooter" with characters that look like B list side kicks or minor villains you see in the background
Here's a kicker for the EU bro's out there, Dustborn was funded by the government, meaning your hard earn cash taken to fund that shitty ass game let that sink in.
Yeah so did some of our US taxpayer money. This "punk" game was paid for by the EU and US governments.
It gets worse: The USA's government funded this through their Norwegian embassy. So we've got two nations and the EU throwing money into this foolishness.
Its crazy. Sony could poll their audience via survey on what they want. They don’t even do that. If killzone was in this concord engine I would have pre ordered
There is no audience for this game . No you woudnt have pre order stop your delusions . There is no audience for concord no body cares about the game you cant survey peopl that dont exist
I would love to see the focus group that thought this cast of characters was a good idea.
Gollum has more players than Concord
Incredible
This is easily one of the craziest facts out of this whole thing.
8 years of development and they have water tank as one of their character.
Lol a literal trash can that literally sucks. Money well spent.
Seriously who TF saw that design and thought it was even passable?
this game has more pronouns than players
Gleep/glim/gloorpself is very upset with what you just wrote
Oh no, i have been looking forward to playing as a fat kaffer for 8 years and it dies on release....what the hell am i supposed to do now?
Play a good game like the normal peoples 💀
In the same week, Black Myth Wukong is selling like crazy.
The „modern audience“ practically doesn’t exist. A lot of woke developers will learn this the hard way now.
100 million in costs with 700 players on launch days. Wow....
People shouldn't be feeling bad for the devs or whatever, this didn't lose money, this was more than guarantee funded by the government and/or DEI companies like Blackrockand Vanguard, that's why this game exist.
Well I hope the devs. will Never Forgot the saying. "This game would not exists without us Developers, But this game Doesn't Matter Without us gaming community."
Concord spiralled down harder than Crypto games.
Remember that crypto dating app for the monkey pictures. Which had TONS of guys on it, but not enough women :') that was hilarious.
i swear, these games feel less like products and more like a cover for a money laundering scheme
They were trying to attract women. The problem with women is that in user groups/surveys they will say that they want overweight, black and "alternative" heroes and when they get shown an overweight woman they will say that they want to play as her. Then when no one is looking they are going to start up Overwatch instead and pick Mercy. Which is what happened. Companies need to look at what women do and not what they say.
so just like interacting with them? XD okok i'm out
@@sickbozo8152 More like just look at what women actually consume and expect focus group feedback to not be sincere. I bet if they made the levels look like they came from the Barbie Movie trailer and made characters look like the most selling barbie and disney characters (frozen for example) then they would attract a lot of women. And I've seen numbers that indicate that about 30-40% of the playerbase of Overwatch and Valorant are female players, so there is a sizable group of potential customers.
@@sickbozo8152well... kinda yeah. It's not nice to say but women have a much more complex set of social behavior and psychology than men. Men will be predictable and up-front that they want violence, titties, adventure, adrenaline and a sense of achievement. Buddies are nice too. Men and women are different and I fear there is a reason why hardcore gamers are still mostly men.
It's really funny. In seeking to empower women, these ideologues are actually listening to them and taking what they say seriously. Girls say they want something, then they get it and want something else... If the progressives tapped into some of that toxic masculinity, they would know this.
Women are the most difficult species to understand😂
How TF this game took seven years to make only for it to flop this hard is beyond me
Projects often flop BECAUSE they took so long to make. Development hell ruins a lot of projects. For all we know, the original concept for this game wasn't that bad.
Literally nobody wanted another one of these games. What a complete failure
That’s not why it failed…
@@nicekix3038it is, there’s nothing necessarily wrong with concord’s gameplay, it’s just completely outclassed by other games in its genre(that are free no less) why the hell would you pay $40 to play concord when there are much better hero shooters that are free?
@@jackhumphries1087 It failed because it’s “woke”, has pronouns, and the character designs are awful. Hardly anyone even tried the free open beta. The reason the game failed is much more complex than you think
@@nicekix3038 that’s literally what i said
@@jackhumphries1087 That’s not what you said at all. What does the game being $40 have to do with ppl not even wanting to try the free open beta?
Agreed. People who treat fictional characters like they're real and have rights are weird.
So don’t cry about non white characters?
Who here is crying? @@saintkupo
If the character is real enough to give you certain feelings, then it should be viewed as how X character types affect the subconcious, but thats about it.
This video has more likes than Concord has players.
Who would've thought that having activists design a game instead of proper game designers was a bad idea 😂
I wonder what the Japanese investors or Japanese SONY thinks about this disaster.
It's pretty clear to me, they know how to make a game that functions, just not a game people actually want to play.
Unreal. They insult us, change established characters, cause our favorite game studios, and franchises to fail chasing a non-existent modern audience. The audacity as to thiink we will ever support them after all the damage they've caused to the western game industry.
What pisses me off the most is that they believe this is all about tags and LGBTQ characters. They conveniently over look all the successful titles that have datable LGBTQ characters and female protagonists in them.
What established Concord characters did they change?
@@Timic83tc it seems this ragebait has brought the chuds out in force.
Who is "they" here?
"Don't buy my game. It isn't for you!"
I guess it was for noone. There was no audience for this game
@@Timic83tc obviousl I wasn't referring to Dustborne and Concord.
Games are a sort of escapism or mini vacation, which is why most gamers play. Most gamers dont play games to see themselves in them. Gamers, by and large, want to see the ideal and attractive characters in the game. It's an entertainment, not real-life injection, which is what gamers want.
So true... and so obvious. Yet still impossibly out of reach for the deluded activists whose narcissism rules every iota of their existence.
@@rithy8522 yes, they are escapism and fantasy. Yet these companies try to cram woke agenda down our throats, make games with crappy writing, call us names and charge money for all that. Some might say behaving like a crazy ex.
Where's sequels to Days Gone, Resistance, Killzone or Bloodborne? Don't call me before you are ready to launch those.
When I was recovering from surgery, I played Skyrim for three months straight, modded to add buckets of lore-friendly content and expand on what's already in the game. I could barely even walk and immersing myself in Skyrim as the powerful Dovahkiin was the perfect distraction from that.
I don't get wanting to see yourself and your flaws represented in a video game. Seems like a joyless mindset to have.
I Have awaited this game for 8 years. However, I was sad to see that it's not nearly as inclusive and progressive as advertised. As the monkysexual person I couldn't find any representation of myself in that diversity scam😢 so I went to play wukong black myth instead.
I believe this problem will eventually have to fix itself simply because no company nor investor has bottomless pockets to sink millions of dollars for failing projects. Woke does not sell, it has been proven over and over again. The sooner these companies realize this and go back to making normal games, the better. But they will have to eventually come to terms with the fact that there is no future in being woke.
They print the money you silly Billy. The war is not over. It has just begun.
Its not wokness in turm of how sony does thing the problem is pushing money into pojects that have no soul just to hop something will work just becouse life service can make shit tones of money is not working at all . To bring peopl to play your service game over what they play already is insanely hard
Its not about profits ita about the message. They gonna push it untill ALL games become woke so you will have no choice but to play woke only games. Blackrock has endless pockets
Not unless it's taxpayers money 💀
@@2138Dudenot me I’ll just go do my other hobby
This is the equivalent of women complaining about pay in sports, then never turning up to watch a single game....
Dude, you speak facts, everyone that unironically geared games towards the _modern audience_ needs to be fired, like yesterday. Those morons are one of the main reasons studios have to cut personel and they (usually) don't pay the price but the average programmer that was told to program the slop and they keep screwing the studio over.
the modern audience has no consoles or a gaming rig, makes total sense they will never show up
Working in the industry myself and have experienced failure, I give Sony two weeks until this studio shuts down.
I really love watching these things fail. Yet another nail in the coffin for these weird ideas. This "modern audience" is obsessed with not making characters look interesting or appealing, and it directly hurts their marketing prospects.
If you think this game failed because the characters are black and gay you’re an idiot.
@@Dakr2000 Uh huh, and how many were "persuaded" by such "waycist RUclipsr grifters" when they either don't even watch video game previews and still don't buy it or the intended target audience doesn't show up. If this wasn't made for normal people, why should they, the majority, be responsible for its' downfall?
@@thientuongnguyen2564I don’t even know how to respond to this wtf are you talking about
@@Dakr2000 Oh really mate? You said people are nincompoop if they THINK this flop failed because it has "diversity" without telling everyone why it actually failed, and I gave you two best explanations, boyo.
@@thientuongnguyen2564 I’ll tell you why it failed: it’s a 40$ live service game in 2024. People don’t pay for those games anymore (unless you’re a COD shill). This game was dead on arrival woke or not.
Years ago I went to Boston and I was invited to a coffee shop for breakfast and as I get there, I see a sign that says "if you're racist or a bigot we don't want your business!" And the whole time I'm there I keep looking at that sign and saying to myself "how would you even know, you're a coffee shop". Their mindset is truly pathetic
Ok?
@@Dakr2000 the idea is that they have similar mindset and I'm just like "why are you saying this? Just sell coffee." They're a game developer, selling a game. Just make the game and sell it
@@Arcademan09 that’s what they did. They made a game and sold it. There’s nothing woke here.
@@Dakr2000Damn you're stupid.
@@Dakr2000 They made a game: ✅
They sold it: ❌
These individuals might find a better fit outside the entertainment industry, perhaps as baristas at Starbucks or in roles like housekeeping.
Cliffy B’s Lawbreakers is looking like EVE Online in terms of longevity
And since games and movies take so long to produce; imagine the fear the companies have now because of all the woke garbage in the pipeline. They are probably frantically trying to unwokeify their products as much as possible.
8:17 Microscopic, but incredibly loud.
Also mentally ill group that thinks their delusions should be mandatory. It's like if schizophrenic people demand everyone else to hear voices.
Refund every player who purchased it and put it on free to play or pull the plug
>Concord releases
>valve announces deadlock on same day and is in basically open beta (you can just go to the reddit and ask someone to invite you)
concord never stood a chance to begin with but valve came out with the steel chair here
Valve can win by doing nothing, and often does. When they actually do something... well...
If Bowser, the planet Earth, or a Black Hole can be sexualized, ANYTHING can be! But you need a passion to do it. You don't get that from activist design.
The formula is so simple. Make a game fun and worth a gamer's time/money. Simplest formula in the world. But greed trumps any decision making that makes games fun.
7:04 if you wanna go and something stupid, weird, or crazy, do it on your own time and money
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If you look at it from the perspective of an executive, you're asking them to continue as they've been doing. You say they need to stop taking risks. Look at the game they made. If you think that this was a risk, then there's a reason you're not an executive. This is as "safe" and "by the numbers" as you can be. It's replication of what is popular. It is a Frankenstein's Monster of what people like. You can't be more risk adverse than they are being right now.
This game was dead on arrival. This will need to be studied because this game’s downfall was because of a perfect storm of being too late to the hero shooter market, not being F2P, and yes even us gamers/consumers bad mouthing it before it even launched. I played the beta. Concord is a good game, not great, but good and I think even 3 years ago it might’ve found an audience. Now in 2024? Everything was against it. I guess actually analyzing the market for games is important.
This game was dead before a single line of code was ever written, mostly thanks to the design and marketing teams.
Yeah, no. If it was F2P, then maybe it could’ve found a small group of people who’d play it and it wouldn’t have died as quickly, but it never had a chance with everything else it had going against it. Whether it released a couple of days ago, three years ago, or ten years ago. You can have games with an uninteresting cast of characters do well. That game can even charge you $40 and still do well as long as it’s put together well. But it being a hero shooter on top of everything else? That’s what made it impossible for it to succeed in any timeline.
I don't feel bad for the devs. They already got paid (for 8 years) and now that the writing's on the wall they can focus on finding a job witha studio where their landlord won't set their bed on fire while they're sleeping in it. I have faith the good ones will land on their feet somewhere better.
It will be either shut down or FTP by end of year. And as you said, FTP won't save it.
I don't feel for the "team" at all. They hate people like me. They despise me because of who I vote for, so screw them.
I don’t see the problem here?
This is what the 1% modern audience looks like they don’t play games they’re to busy tryna find the next thing to use as an excuse to cry about 💀
Make a game for modern audience? This is what you get this is your modern Audience, less than 100 people for concord, less than 1K for Suicide Squad that’s your modern audience 🤣
There is something frustrating about the critics of the critics (not supporters because no one is buying this garbage) of Concord/Dustborn/woke/DEI/etc.
They conflate diversity with woke, and how something like Deadlock is "woke" because it's diverse.
Deadlock characters are diverse but not woke. They're cool, they're well designed, they're stylish.
Concord/Dustborn characters are poorly designed, hideousz and were made for checkboxes. Hell, even down to the SocJus pronoun ticking and training (for Dustborn).
Their politics are obvious.
Can we all just admit now that playstation 5 is a terrible console with almost no games
I never thought about it, but sucking at business while having employees is genuinely cruel.
That’s how life works
speaking of dei, there was an interesting article I saw a month ago where a dei consultant was talking about how they are disappointed at how dei is actually implemented in companies, and they said that companies just pay consultants to make a generic easy "change" to their company to make their numbers look good that does absolutely nothing deeper than this surface level change nor affects any of the internal structure of the company. This doesn't actually increase diversity for the long term at the company, it doesn't bring any benefit to the company other than making it look a bit more appealing to the small minority of investors who chase this trend. Essentially just a waste of money that does nothing.
That's because political Commisars are bad for business
I would definitely have played this if it was free to play. There is no chance I would pay to play this game. No live service game should cost money to play. The whole point of a live service game is to offer something in a free to play game that makes people want to buy things in the game. Which could ultimately equal more than a game would cost to buy over time. Some one may spend $15-$20 a week while playing the game which if you can keep the fans interested will quickly racking up multiple times over a $60 game price tag. I know people that have spent into a thousand on micro transactions between Warzone and Fortnite.
The only thing more sad then Concord is the forum on Reddit
Fun fact: Team Fortress 2 was released in 2007 and is still operation to this day, making it 17 years old as of this year (Yes I know barely but the servers are getting better)
This game hasn't even lasted a week and it took them almost the same amount of time to make it as TF2
Why someone bought this game is a surprise to me.
They probably gifted a bunch of free game codes, could be no one bought it.
Concord and Dustborn pander to the mythical modern audience that media insists upon existing, but somehow never seems to buy anything that's meant for them. Meanwhile The First Descendants show 1 character's ass and makes millions. There may be a lesson in here somewhere, can't quite put my finger on it.
you know. when i first started studying i did biology. you wouldnt see that kind of crowd in there (neither chemistry, .. etc) there at all. then i switched to computer science and media (but at a bad uni where there wasnt math 1 & math 2 module). there were multiple movie related ones aswell and you would literally see these people only at these specific and easy to pass courses of studies. from my experience, its always those people that underperformed the most. you could literally do barely anything and pass game design or movie related uni topics.
I got a degree in game development, games and film are largely there for people that are unsure what to get a degree in. They pick those majors, get rushed though, and pay the college a fortune to do it.
At least at my college the game development degree was programming focused. For game design... Just play games. Why are you getting a degree for it?
@@OujirouYT yeah, honestly when it comes to Art/3D or game programming. if you really want to make a difference and create a pleasing experience, you have to teach it to yourself + mentoring at some point
ps: not trying to bash a degree in game dev. that stuff isnt easy but only a fraction really take it serious and puts in the time.
@@louissnuggleton4544 I could talk for ages about complaints I have on higher education. It always comes down to the person, not the degree.
Movies and games pushing a lot of this crap have been failing for years and yet the devs, the creators, even the suits don't ever learn. They think sending a message is more important than fun and entertainment.
They made a game for an audience that doesn't even exist. What did they expect? Nobody wants a gay game, and this is as gay as it gets.
A truer statement has never been spoken.
Overwatch?
Dustborn is politely asking me to hold they/their beer😅
This isn't even true though - a male audience would eat up a game featuring lesbians. Nobody wants a game that is bad and not fun to play. It's that simple.
@@bghost3636It’s like legitimately sad that people don’t understand that being super anti-woke is just as bad and toxic as being super woke.
“This game failed because it was gay and gay is bad.”
Like, really? Overwatch leans into that super hard too and it can’t be killed no matter how hard they try, but this game failed because it’s gay? Not because of all of the other issues it has, but because of that? Brain rot on both sides?
"The 'modern audience' doesn't exist"
How has the industry not learned this after 20 years of games looking for the 'modern audience' dying?
Most of them will listen and read feedback.
I dont feel sorry for anyone involved, we're all adults.
Most people by now know woke is activism, which requires 'doing the work' and that's what these games push... work!
Work is not fun and for the last 10+ years it's be the same boring preachy crap.
But do you think publishers and studios have learned anything??? No, they'll just obfuscate it back to 2010's.
This looks to me like the religious movies they used to show in my school's youth group. Different religion, sure, but the resemblance is uncanny.
The damage and good will that so many companies have utterly burned, is incalculable at this point. I can't imagine when I might even remotely be interested in another Sony product again, after the years of their pandering this garbage. Along with many other companies. They could release the sexiest, hottest, most unwoke game ever made, tomorrow, and I'd still second guess supporting them financially.
It's not just the studios which are floundering, that are a problem, it's how they are going to win back people's trust and support, that is the biggest problem of all. They're quite literally trying to force people to accept and live under a certain ideology, and I can't think of many worse attacks, than that on your beliefs.
These companies haven't even begun to feel the reckoning that awaits them.
A total change in leadership at the top would be a great start. I also want them to stop locking PC game sales to counties that have PSN support. No reason to lock half the globe out of buying single player games, it's just stupid.