Is Lupe Fiasco a Better Lyricist Than Kendrick Lamar? | DEHH

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  • @WatershipAlan
    @WatershipAlan 4 года назад +459

    People won't appreciate how good Lupe is until he's done with music.

    • @GLBJ260
      @GLBJ260 4 года назад +21

      He's an alien man

    • @drhashtagyolo
      @drhashtagyolo 4 года назад +3

      ^

    • @dariusjackson1929
      @dariusjackson1929 4 года назад +6

      Kick, Push will always be one of my favorite songs from Lupe ever! That will never change. He’s just that good.

    • @youngtundra478
      @youngtundra478 4 года назад +13

      Darius Jackson Mural is one of the best songs Lupe ever made, if you got 8 minutes, check it out

    • @dariusjackson1929
      @dariusjackson1929 4 года назад +5

      youngtundra478 hold on... Lupe spitting for 8 minutes? I don’t know if my ears can handle that much fire. But i’ll try. Mural, right? Good looking out.

  • @damic1212
    @damic1212 4 года назад +209

    This shouldn't even be a question. We all love Kendrick, but anyone who has heard tracks like Mural, Adoration of A Magi, Hurt Me Soul, Blur My Hands, and Mural Jr know that Lupe is an elite level lyricist.

    • @isaiahmarshall2704
      @isaiahmarshall2704 4 года назад +26

      I'm glad you brought up Adoration of A Magi, because people really sleep on that

    • @damic1212
      @damic1212 4 года назад +3

      @@isaiahmarshall2704 Facts

    • @ChristianPerez-kd5jg
      @ChristianPerez-kd5jg 4 года назад +5

      Black friday, Kush and Corinthians, poe man dreams, FEEL, Hol up, all song that aren't mainstream fyi

    • @ChristianPerez-kd5jg
      @ChristianPerez-kd5jg 4 года назад +1

      Both have a great discography, KDOT does more tho

    • @birdsfly7199
      @birdsfly7199 2 года назад +6

      @@ChristianPerez-kd5jg I love those Kendrick tracks. But try to find a line/pair of lines in those songs that can top a line/pair of lines from those Lupe songs OP mentioned. Lupe has a tendency to make every line important. I love rapping along “I flow tighter than virgin lips,” but Lupe wouldn’t have a line like that. Regardless, I love Kendrick and Lupe. Kendrick over Lupe any day, too.

  • @Sasuke-Dono
    @Sasuke-Dono 4 года назад +945

    I will argue for Kendrick against most, but Lupe is a Jedi Master Council Member who taught Yoda bro

    • @oblambo
      @oblambo 4 года назад +8

      Lol

    • @donpatchey3178
      @donpatchey3178 4 года назад +38

      Dont care for star wars but this was a dope a comment

    • @DairangerSentai7
      @DairangerSentai7 4 года назад +19

      Lupe taught Yoda and Qui-Gon-Kendrick

    • @vivelevelo9232
      @vivelevelo9232 4 года назад +11

      Lupe is getting overhyped, mans good, not that good tho

    • @oblambo
      @oblambo 4 года назад +61

      @@vivelevelo9232 bro there's a reason he's being compared to Kendrick. He's definitely not overhyped

  • @YardratZ
    @YardratZ 4 года назад +278

    Man. The similes. Metaphors. References. Analogies. Double rhymes. Double time. Triple time. Consonance. Assonance. Extended metaphors. Story telling. Story telling across three albums and three mixtapes. Telling a story backwards. Rapping from a inanimate object’s point of view. Rapping for nine minutes. Making you debate (15 years later) if kick push was about selling drugs or skateboarding and if Michael Young Never lost his dad, would he have met “The Cool” and have to dig himself up out of his grave with a watch. The cartoon references. Double entendres. Triple entendres. Whatever heck, Septennial entendres. Has anybody ever heard of Lupe’s song called “Hurt Me Soul”. Omg......dude spit all of the world ills. Dude was massively rhyming talking about trump and Oboma way way back and social issues and making it FRESH. Man. .....just listen to food and liquor. The original leaked version. Dude had a song with Jay z on that album. Lupe killed it. Jay z went and RE DID HIS VERSE ONCE THE SONG CAME OUT. Lupe Smoked him. That’s how Great Lupe is. Whatever you want, LUPE GOT IT. Oh yeah “Coulda Been” is his first recorded song and is one of the best songs ever.

    • @WalterBrady
      @WalterBrady 4 года назад +30

      Bro!! You just gave me an education on this man skill set!! Like Lupe said in SLR, “You have to go to Harvard to be a Lupe Stan.”

    • @YardratZ
      @YardratZ 4 года назад +25

      Walter Brady bro. Lupe. Is the man. It’s crazy how good he is. I even songs like WAV files omg. Dude. Dude. Just listen and read the lyrical connotation. And the song BUMPED IN THE WHIP and spit knowledge

    • @abel6297
      @abel6297 4 года назад +27

      WAV Files > How much a dollar cost
      & it aint even close, Lupe just goes beyond storytelling and into the heavens were the harvest is greater

    • @YardratZ
      @YardratZ 4 года назад +16

      The Bubble yessss. But Kendrick is that dude. Not as great lyrically. He great. Not Lupe great. His delivery is better IMO. I wouldn’t say his song are better. Just more modern. Lupe was in that space long ago.

    • @mlp573
      @mlp573 4 года назад +12

      Fucking facts tracks like : paper of jayzus, mural, mural 2, shoes (I never heard emcee spit like that ever

  • @deroistewart1475
    @deroistewart1475 4 года назад +233

    This topic is a prime example of how the line between popularity and talent are extremely blurred today.

    • @strawhatzevante472
      @strawhatzevante472 4 года назад +3

      Exactly !

    • @CE77777
      @CE77777 4 года назад +77

      I get what your saying but Kendrick is the last person to be saying this in reference too

    • @steezy6195
      @steezy6195 4 года назад +41

      Kendrick one of my favourite artists of this generation and even I can admit his fans overrate the fuck out of his lyricism lmao.

    • @jow8480
      @jow8480 4 года назад +10

      @@steezy6195 u can't blame kendrick for his own following

    • @steezy6195
      @steezy6195 4 года назад +24

      Jo W of course not but I can most definitely blame the Kendrick fans that don’t educate themselves on other rappers and think he’s best lyricist to touch the earth lmao. This Lupe vs Kendrick is the prime example most Kendrick fans haven’t listened to Lupe in his entirety and are just quick to defend Kendrick when if they actually Dissected Lupe they’d clearly know he’s the superior lyricist

  • @bushmanadami
    @bushmanadami 4 года назад +422

    I love Kendrick to DEATH, but if we're talking STRICTLY lyrics, the only correct answer to me is Lupe. His double, triple, quadruple entrendres are crazy, the way he metaphorically connects every bar in a verse together on certain songs, it's so dense. Yeah...give it to that man.

    • @lathankyles687
      @lathankyles687 4 года назад +21

      Facts... why is this even a conversation. 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @heythere6983
      @heythere6983 4 года назад +27

      Cuz rap n hip hop fans are unfortunately not much better than pop fans and go by celebrity status and catchy simple songs

    • @DeeMulaah
      @DeeMulaah 4 года назад +16

      @@isaiaharmand8841 Lupe isn't even a double time rapper
      What the hell are you talking about

    • @exaucemayunga22
      @exaucemayunga22 4 года назад

      Can I have some titles where he does that? I don't really listen to him.

    • @DeeMulaah
      @DeeMulaah 4 года назад +4

      @@exaucemayunga22 Just look up Mural

  • @raykincaid684
    @raykincaid684 4 года назад +456

    Kendrick is sonically more pleasing to listen to....but Lupe's wordplay is on another level.

    • @carsonrogers4849
      @carsonrogers4849 4 года назад +7

      Neither are that sonically pleasing

    • @Northsyde21
      @Northsyde21 4 года назад +37

      @@carsonrogers4849 sonically both are great artists along with being great lyricist. That's what makes both so successful and beloved imo

    • @carsonrogers4849
      @carsonrogers4849 4 года назад +2

      Northsyde i have ADHD

    • @tj013.
      @tj013. 4 года назад +7

      Carson Rogers that’s cap

    • @TheKondinho
      @TheKondinho 4 года назад +2

      One name: Dr Dre

  • @jonathanjones7681
    @jonathanjones7681 4 года назад +202

    Lupe for the mind Kendrick for the soul. It all depends on what makes you feel more. Me personally it’s Kendrick by a hair but I’m not mad at anyone saying Lupe.

    • @venod3134
      @venod3134 4 года назад +32

      That is a fire analogy. Agreed.

    • @313jmo3
      @313jmo3 4 года назад +6

      @JahRoxkYa Listen to the Cool.

    • @brashadcarr6759
      @brashadcarr6759 4 года назад +1

      Great take

    • @96god2
      @96god2 4 года назад +15

      @JahRoxkYa true , I'd say Sing about me is another example

    • @christopherjohnson577
      @christopherjohnson577 4 года назад +2

      But that's not lyrics though that's more so style

  • @TheSnoozeFox
    @TheSnoozeFox 4 года назад +48

    Honestly DROGAS WAVE has the best rapping I’ve ever heard on an album it’s absolutely insane how good he is, I listened to it while reading the Genius annotations and it’s mind blowing.

    • @valx5
      @valx5 3 года назад

      @M C yeah that’s why he commented “the best rapping I’ve ever heard”

  • @NoviceChess
    @NoviceChess 4 года назад +161

    Who on God's green earth thinks Kendrick is anywhere near Lupe lyrically? Seems like Lupe was just trolling for fun.

    • @IGAmbiton
      @IGAmbiton 3 года назад +8

      Kendrick is Lupe that doesnt watch anime. Stop

    • @jactrippa6555
      @jactrippa6555 3 года назад +3

      Bruh Kendrick killing everybody in the game BUT Lupe probably is the Rap God..

    • @yhhkj529
      @yhhkj529 2 года назад +10

      @deez nuts this made me laugh way harder than it should. I kinda want Anthony to explain his issue with Lupe one day, because everything about his musical taste tells me he should really dig his music, but instead he acts like he doesn’t even exist. He only talks about his records when his fanbase literally forces him to. I remember a live stream were he was listing artists who worked with Kanye…
      Chat: LUPE LUPE LUPE
      Anthony: Pusha, Kid Cudy, Kendrick…

    • @2ill4real
      @2ill4real 2 года назад +1

      @@yhhkj529 melon head can't comprehend Lupe's lyrics lol

    • @jojorose778
      @jojorose778 4 месяца назад

      Me

  • @SageTheChosen
    @SageTheChosen 4 года назад +256

    Y'all are forgetting that Lupe was Black balled by the industry. It took Anonymous to force Atlantic to let him release music. And at that point Lupe was just trying to make songs to complete his album obligation so he could get off his contract. He even said "I wasn't going to give them anything I put my soul in". That's why Lupe's mainstream career tanked.

    • @seanreyes7694
      @seanreyes7694 4 года назад +18

      Facts

    • @gilfordmccormack8140
      @gilfordmccormack8140 4 года назад +51

      Big Facts even though Lupe came into the game with 1st and 15th his Partner/Manager Chill got sentenced to 44 yrs in prison as his career was taking off. Lupe had to fend for himself in the industry. Kendrick came into the game with the covering of Top Dawg and TDE. They protected Kendrick from dealing with some of the pitfalls and issues that Lupe had to deal with in the industry. Not to say that I'm using that as slight against Kendrick because I'm glad he had that. If he didn't have the team or the support that he has he probably wouldn't have been as big as he is.

    • @cordellboss
      @cordellboss 4 года назад +13

      Not only that but Lupe doesn't care about money and came into the rap game with a boatload of it. So everything they tried to sell to him he wasn't buying.

    • @dominobutters6438
      @dominobutters6438 4 года назад +1

      Yup..he talks about this and the influence that the industry tries to filter in and change the artist's music in order to abide by industry norms in the song "glory". Dope track by the way.

    • @dayestar1997
      @dayestar1997 4 года назад +22

      Most artists, especially conscious artists dont have the chance to have the career Kendrick had. People just assume lupe fell off cause of accessible music or something but he had tons of label battles that kemdrick never had. Taking songs off the radio, label refusing to put out albums, telling him they wont promote him, getting black listed for his political opinions, giving songs that would have blew him up even more to other artists. list goes on. Imagine if kendrick was on a label that felt like to pimp a butterfly needs more edm instrumentals because Kendrick has crossover appeal, and refused to release it to the point fans protested. Kendrick would have fell off. He is on a label with people looking out for him, who makes sure he eats, and makes sure him and his music can breathe.

  • @316therocksays
    @316therocksays 4 года назад +97

    We need that KendrickxLupe track. GET TOP ON THE PHONE!

  • @aaronhooper3328
    @aaronhooper3328 4 года назад +155

    The Cool definitely had a radio sound to it. “Paris, Tokyo” “Superstar” “Hi-Definition” “Hip-Hop Saved My Life” “Fighters” all were radio “friendly” sounding

    • @dadorage1695
      @dadorage1695 4 года назад +6

      Gold Watch, Hello Goodbye, Put you on game etc are NOT radio friendly though.

    • @IAmWizdom1000
      @IAmWizdom1000 4 года назад +17

      That's pre-blackball Lupe as well.

    • @BlackHattoriHanzo
      @BlackHattoriHanzo 4 года назад +13

      And then he dropped dumb it down on that same album

    • @SolidSnake240
      @SolidSnake240 4 года назад +11

      True. Those songs are all great tho cuz it didn't sound like Lupe was reaching for a radio hit. HipHop Saved My Life has a whole double meaning to it.

    • @BlackHattoriHanzo
      @BlackHattoriHanzo 4 года назад +6

      @@SolidSnake240 that was an anthem for anyone whoever picked up a pen and pad. Lupes the cool album really was pretty deep. Even hi definition had some meaning in it.

  • @willieboyland3180
    @willieboyland3180 4 года назад +112

    At this point in his career Lupe is on his Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue" approach to his creative process. The average Hip Hop fan won't get his approach until 30-40 years later....

    • @benl4707
      @benl4707 4 года назад +3

      Yea if that was a challenge could he beat that though!

    • @willieboyland3180
      @willieboyland3180 4 года назад +2

      @@benl4707 That's a good question. It would be interesting to see....

    • @breekwhal
      @breekwhal 4 года назад

      What’s miles Davis approach to creative process?

    • @willieboyland3180
      @willieboyland3180 4 года назад +5

      @@breekwhal Pushing creative boundaries. Realizing that your flaws creatively are actually the foundation of your gift and not being afraid to display that in your music...

    • @jannickpedersen4620
      @jannickpedersen4620 4 года назад +1

      4 years after i heard the song "go to sleep" - i could still find something i had overlooked. FnF up!

  • @bw4348
    @bw4348 4 года назад +100

    The real question is, " Is Lupe the best lyricist ever?" Have you heard "Mural"?

    • @davonmanigault2451
      @davonmanigault2451 3 года назад +30

      Have you heard WAV files?

    • @Matt_Underwood
      @Matt_Underwood 3 года назад +5

      @@davonmanigault2451 WAV Files❤️❤️❤️

    • @daylanbrawley631
      @daylanbrawley631 3 года назад +7

      I’ve BEEN telling my friends to listen to mural for years….nobody in mainstream is out-rapping LUPE

    • @wh0_odat644
      @wh0_odat644 2 года назад +2

      Not just Mural...his whole track record. 👑💯

    • @bw4348
      @bw4348 2 года назад +3

      @@wh0_odat644 I feel you. But you gotta give the ppl some place to start. Lupe has a lot of range. Even his dis records are lethal, (listen to Steve Jobs).

  • @djwarzone1
    @djwarzone1 4 года назад +170

    Kendrick and Lupe on a song : winner would be Hip Hop

    • @tuxedomask8238
      @tuxedomask8238 4 года назад +3

      They have a song together but it was when Kendrick was trash lol

    • @SoundsGoodNature
      @SoundsGoodNature 4 года назад

      @@tuxedomask8238 kendrick was never trash

    • @tuxedomask8238
      @tuxedomask8238 4 года назад

      RomanRulers yes, he was before he was famous. Kendrick legit switched up his whole style.

    • @SoundsGoodNature
      @SoundsGoodNature 4 года назад

      @@tuxedomask8238 before he was famous he wasn't trash

    • @tuxedomask8238
      @tuxedomask8238 4 года назад +1

      RomanRulers Lol you’re in denial

  • @Captain-lw7fx
    @Captain-lw7fx 4 года назад +158

    Man if a Kendrick and Lupe track comes from this...

    • @ShonTolliverMusic
      @ShonTolliverMusic 4 года назад +18

      We'd be decoding it for the next decade and college curriculum will be have courses written around it.

    • @brandonbates9259
      @brandonbates9259 4 года назад

      @@ShonTolliverMusic for sure

    • @neshaunfoster3160
      @neshaunfoster3160 4 года назад +1

      It’ll be like that Eminem and Kendrick track where there don’t rap for the sake of throwing bars and showing skill and instead attack a concept no one would expect. Like they rapped about women, I enjoyed the track, but when I saw the track list for the Marshall Mather LP 2, I was assuming those 2 were about to duke it out on a record. Nah... I was got

    • @capalottyslimalini2878
      @capalottyslimalini2878 4 года назад +1

      Lupe wouldn’t. He doesn’t wanna get to embarrassed

    • @quality318
      @quality318 4 года назад +4

      @@capalottyslimalini2878 Lupe will outshine Kendrick Lamar lyrically

  • @Figleaf-Bicarbonate
    @Figleaf-Bicarbonate 4 года назад +163

    I missed these DEHH conversations.

    • @fernandoreyes680
      @fernandoreyes680 4 года назад +3

      Me too man. I always go back to their old videos to see the convos.

    • @Gamefreak2079
      @Gamefreak2079 4 года назад +4

      Same we need more especially rn

  • @Meami_ami
    @Meami_ami 4 года назад +425

    Lupe > Kendrick as a lyricist DAS IT

    • @seanmower3926
      @seanmower3926 4 года назад +9

      I agree here

    • @seanmower3926
      @seanmower3926 4 года назад +4

      Also S/0 meami love your content

    • @4251547
      @4251547 4 года назад +3

      Yup

    • @pastense
      @pastense 4 года назад +14

      I agree when he said that Kendrick is a better artist tho. Kdot has made masterpieces. Lupe has not, and may never will.

    • @lastonewon
      @lastonewon 4 года назад

      That's it.

  • @comicallyinsane7761
    @comicallyinsane7761 4 года назад +48

    Yes, no questions asked. Lupe is undoubtedly one of the greatest lyricists of all time

  • @commaJim
    @commaJim 4 года назад +74

    Interesting convo. No real controversy here once everyone reads Lupe's full comments on it, but this was a dope conversation to get out of it all.

  • @djwarzone1
    @djwarzone1 4 года назад +162

    Tetsuo and Youth Lyrically and Sonically is crazy man . Like Lyrically Kendrick can’t touch that . Far as TPAB that type of consciousness is also deep as fuck ... I still gotta give it to Lupe though

    • @Gwrightproductions1
      @Gwrightproductions1 4 года назад +7

      And that's why LU said Kendrick is a better artist. Lu as an Alien lyrically

    • @Oxytocin_
      @Oxytocin_ 4 года назад +4

      Gwrightproductions1 he’s still not better lyrically but y’all can have the conversation.

    • @davidawonaike1188
      @davidawonaike1188 4 года назад +11

      Just because Lupe puts some crazy complex rhyme schemes together doesn’t mean he a better lyricist, listen to Mural, half the shit he says don’t even makes sense he just rhyming for the sake of rhyming. Kendrick is a better lyricist, he paints stories better, his message is louder too.

    • @djwarzone1
      @djwarzone1 4 года назад +18

      David Awonaike the punchlines and pictures he pains in word form on mural are crazy man. It’s complex , it’s possible if you don’t get it that the rhyme scheme went over your head or maybe that type of rhyming isn’t your cup of tea . I guess not everyone wants to decipher the raps. Again why Kendrick is more popular but nothing wrong with that either way I guess

    • @Oxytocin_
      @Oxytocin_ 4 года назад +4

      djwarzone1 Eminem can do wordplay freestyles and then sit and write more technical similes and metaphors. It’s not that special. It’s about painting pictures with those words in depth.

  • @capsloccc4606
    @capsloccc4606 4 года назад +52

    I just imagine Kendrick calling Top and saying “bring Lupe to the studio”

  • @will22002
    @will22002 4 года назад +36

    The Cool was massively underrated, excluding a few songs his concepts and storytelling are second to none. And when given the scope to flex away from record label bullshit he’s on another level hence tetsuo and youth which is a masterpiece

    • @cyberbron2024
      @cyberbron2024 2 года назад +2

      Drogas wave too was crazy. Lupe has an amazing discography not only musically but there's so much lyrical content to dive into. His hiccups were just the albums he made where Atlantic had a big input on what they wanted. Other than that, dude has one of the best discographies to me.

  • @illgoat
    @illgoat 4 года назад +24

    They forgot how many different flows Lupe has displayed over the years. He has switched flows on a single song. Both Kendrick and Lupe are good at flow versatility.

    • @modofatak
      @modofatak Год назад +1

      I personally think Kendrick is more versatile

  • @HarpoSpeaks
    @HarpoSpeaks 4 года назад +59

    Love the DEHH Conversations, and to me they demonstrate your biggest strength as a channel. 'Reaction' style videos have their place on RUclips, but you stand out by offering something I don't see from other Hip-Hop focused channels - insightful and entertaining discussions by people who love the artform.

    • @CHUCKSANDPOLOS
      @CHUCKSANDPOLOS 4 года назад +3

      This should have more likes

    • @alang4190
      @alang4190 4 года назад +2

      i hope rod sees this, i miss these

  • @edwardpolenzani1039
    @edwardpolenzani1039 4 года назад +34

    Lupe and Ab-Soul’s collab was fire

  • @azami286
    @azami286 4 года назад +103

    Even though I agree that kendrick makes more accessible music, I have to give lupe his props. Cause a lot of hip hop fans keep "dumb it down" relevant to this day

    • @IAmWizdom1000
      @IAmWizdom1000 4 года назад +11

      TO THIS DAY! I've been mind blown by dumb it down since middle school, I'm 27 now.

    • @SPACECOWBOY705
      @SPACECOWBOY705 4 года назад +10

      There's alot of skill in simplifying complex topics... I think kendrick excels in this... Kendricks not "simple" at all but he does a good job of meeting his listeners halfway.... Lupe is extremely complex almost to his own detriment

    • @gondoguru
      @gondoguru 4 года назад

      coolest nigga what!! dumb it down"🙌

    • @Dirtydoggo
      @Dirtydoggo 4 года назад

      lil Artman X you hit the nail on the coffin. Reading this entire comment section and both fans just handicap the HELL out of both artists that it’s actually fucking insane. I’m a Kendrick fan bro but I realized he was a mortal man too when he decided to tell a fan to not say the lyric to a hype song 🤦‍♂️

    • @thatothamae1394
      @thatothamae1394 4 года назад +1

      I can't believe people see "dumb it down" in Kendrick and Lupe lyrics.

  • @money0925
    @money0925 4 года назад +23

    "We're all chemicals/vitamins and minerals/Vicodin in inner tubes wraped around the armmmm"

  • @sean_image
    @sean_image 4 года назад +15

    Anyone questioning Lupes talent and lyricism needs to listen to songs like WAV files, King Nas and Sun God Sam from his last album. As a matter of fact just listen to the whole Drogas Wave album.

  • @noahperez5074
    @noahperez5074 4 года назад +100

    How many times have we had this convo😂😭😭

  • @producedbykhireyakeem4340
    @producedbykhireyakeem4340 4 года назад +369

    Lupe has worked with Ab-Soul several times. He loves the whole TDE camp. People know the truth about Lupe vs. Kendrick Lamar. Y’all (as in the people) need to stop trying to make this a beef. That’s it. Lupe got it. That’s respect. Kendrick is dope too but y’all get albums and rapping confused.

    • @HStalhane
      @HStalhane 4 года назад +4

      @Blank do you think Harry Potter is superior to Ulysses? After all, the concepts of Harry Potter are literally magical and out of this world, whereas Ulysses just tells the story of a day in Dublin.

    • @JC-ws3cs
      @JC-ws3cs 4 года назад +12

      @@HStalhane what are you trying say? Which rapper is Joyce in this comparison. I think lupe and Kendrick are more interesting than JK Rowling to be honest.

    • @HStalhane
      @HStalhane 4 года назад +2

      @@JC-ws3cs I just feel that subject matter is a weird thing to be measuring, which I guess this entire thing is about, so I don't even know...

    • @realeyesrealisereallies97
      @realeyesrealisereallies97 4 года назад +7

      @@HStalhane not a fair comparison bro

    • @docm4544
      @docm4544 4 года назад +8

      If Lupe & Soul did an album together, the world would combust

  • @316therocksays
    @316therocksays 4 года назад +208

    I think with the whole "delivery being a part of lyricism" debate that Rod brought up, I think that delivery should be taken into account when judging the overall MC, but not something as specific as lyricism that has to do specifically with words. That's why I think Lupe is a better lyricist, but Kendrick is a better overall MC.

    • @PaintedHoundie
      @PaintedHoundie 4 года назад +9

      I dont get what lyricism is anymore based on what people are saying. It seems clear that when people say someone is a lyricist theyre talkin about bars. People are saying things like provoking emotion, story telling, relatability etc and i dont think those are things that go into what makes a person a wordsmith

    • @budheavie3518
      @budheavie3518 4 года назад +2

      Idk. I think Lupes a better mc but Kendrick is better overall artist.

    • @hornyconvict
      @hornyconvict 4 года назад +3

      Wouldn't you say the ability to tell a story factors into it as well? I think Kendrick has a slight edge in that regard. Lupe is more dense and metaphorical but I'd argue Kendrick is more varied and has the storytelling edge.
      They're both amazing artists.

    • @budheavie3518
      @budheavie3518 4 года назад +3

      Brandon The Cool story by Lupe is pretty dope. I think Kendrick just puts more emotion in his tracks.

    • @shabaclank3711
      @shabaclank3711 4 года назад +1

      Kru thank you... that’s what gives Kendrick the edge for me

  • @manga3040
    @manga3040 3 года назад +51

    As Lupe said, "gota go to Harvard to be a Lupe Stan."

    • @The-Endo-SymArmor
      @The-Endo-SymArmor 3 года назад +10

      It's hard being a Lupe fan go to Harvard to be a Lupe Stan. I'm not saying that I'm harder It's just harder when it's in Lupe's hand. Welcome Nigga Lupe Land.

  • @recarored9862
    @recarored9862 2 года назад +13

    I'm a Lupe Stan but most of Lupe's songs and albums go over my head. Lupe is one of those rappers you literally have to listen to multiple times AND go to rap genius to get his genius. It's crazy and how ahead of his time he is. Lupe all day man there's no question.

  • @THEARCHITECT801
    @THEARCHITECT801 4 года назад +13

    As an artist, these are the types of discussions that I really appreciate from the DEHH community (i.e. the hosts & those of us who are subscribers/viewers). Even though I’m not the one being reviewed; I’m always learning from channels like DEHH’s - which helps me hone my craft, even more, refining my skill set. I also appreciate that you’re not strictly basing one’s level of ‘success’ off of records sold, alone. Dope conversation, Fellas!

  • @c2dajayy
    @c2dajayy 4 года назад +61

    Plot twist: Lupe is the one holding the camera the whole time

  • @ShizAudi
    @ShizAudi 4 года назад +30

    Finally someone who puts some respecK on Lupe’s name

  • @zimigxumisa1900
    @zimigxumisa1900 4 года назад +11

    As a k-Dot Stan ,I have to say Lupe has said everything that Kendrick has said but in a more dynamic and complex manner which requires a lot of time to analyse the Lyricism.Thats one of the reasons Lupe hasn't gotten big on a mainstream level coz he's too complicated .

  • @calvinparker8469
    @calvinparker8469 3 года назад +6

    Been a fan of lupe since (Food & liquor) album. The song (real) is still one of my favorite song till this day. My niggas thought he was trash and never understood why i listen to him everyday. Man is a genius💯

    • @vayunlohani441
      @vayunlohani441 3 года назад +1

      W for sticking with Lupe since day 1

    • @younggod3906
      @younggod3906 2 года назад +1

      I love that song Real 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯

  • @silvanus623
    @silvanus623 4 года назад +8

    I subscribed as soon as i heard praise for Tetsuo and Youth, his most underrated album

  • @chrizz8164
    @chrizz8164 4 года назад +5

    I don’t know too much about lupes discography so I guess I can’t give my opinion. I’m just glad to see people in the comments are just giving props and speaking their opinion rather than arguing.

  • @tulip8586
    @tulip8586 4 года назад +52

    I honestly love these dudes. I wish I could subscribe to their patreon and support em, but cash is a little hard for me right now, especially since I live in a different country and currency means that I have to pay a lil bit more. Keep pushing out content Dead End Hiphop, I'll support every other way I can. It's rare to find somebody who has the exact same music tastes as you and Mike C Town is litteraly that guy for me🤣😂 Honestly I appreciate yall content man, I love hiphop! All of it! And I love that channels like this exist🐧🐧

    • @Dionduvinci
      @Dionduvinci 4 года назад +1

      Do you listen to their podcast?

    • @tulip8586
      @tulip8586 4 года назад +1

      @@Dionduvinci oh yeah definately! Shit is free😂🤣😂

  • @brendanarthur5761
    @brendanarthur5761 Год назад +2

    There are a few things that none of them mentioned pertaining to Lupe.
    First of all, Lupe's mixtapes like 'Farenheit' and 'Enemy of the State' have some of the hottest tracks of all time. His one off, 'unreleased' singles/freestyles are crazy as well. "Free Chilly Freestyle", "You, Me, Him, Her", "Ignorant". These are a few of the best lyrical freestyles ever released. To only make mention of his albums is to do him a great diservice.
    Also, just his sheer ability to hit you with a triple entendre that recalls a line from earlier in the song, while tying into an overarching theme is just unprecedented. I've listened to Lupe for 15 years and still find refrences and additional layers of an Entendre that astound me. To truly understand his songs you have to study history, film, cartoons, fashion, literature; the list goes on. He will pronounce a word such that it will sound like two different words, where both of them work in context but have totally different meanings. It's superhuman.
    Lupe is, hands down, the greatest lyricist of all time. I don't think it is even close.

  • @Leodoesthings23
    @Leodoesthings23 4 года назад +7

    I’m with Rod on delivery always being part of lyricism. How a bar is delivered does have a part in determining how good the bar is.

  • @A.Shawnee
    @A.Shawnee 4 года назад +10

    DEHH right on time with a video when I was looking for something to watch! Salute kings!

    • @A.Shawnee
      @A.Shawnee 4 года назад +1

      @Nathan Trujillo Well, you proved you're definitely not one lol. Dude, shut up!

  • @Braillionaire
    @Braillionaire 4 года назад +9

    I think something important to point out on the accessible songs tip. When Lupe was making accessible songs, he did it in his nitch. Were his accessible songs crazy lyrical? No, not really. But they were crazy CONCEPTUALLY. And that's really Lupe's bag. Superstar was part of a concept album talking about going to heaven and with a video where the streets were personified as a hustler with an arm that turned to bones when the lights flashed on them... That was a SINGLE! Lol and not just for the vid, it tied into the actual lyrics and album which was heavily promoted.
    Kendrick's bag is that he raps weird, lyrically and really well. Before he blew up, that was his bag as well. When he makes accessible songs, that's still his thing.
    So there's a difference in even how they approach "accessible" songs.
    Lupe has said that being crazy at rapping, isn't necessarily what separates him from the pack. It's his concepts that he puts the most pride in.

    • @blkjohnnybravo3506
      @blkjohnnybravo3506 4 года назад +1

      Braillionaire dumb it down was a single

    • @Braillionaire
      @Braillionaire 4 года назад +1

      @@blkjohnnybravo3506 I know lol Hence my point. When I say "conceptual" I don't just mean the overall concept of the song. His bars are also abstract and conceptual. That's Lupe himself talks about his raps and his strengths. That song is a PERFECT example lol

  • @KingBr33ch
    @KingBr33ch 4 года назад +15

    I'm glad Lupe is getting recognition.

  • @RC4sho
    @RC4sho 4 года назад +2

    Love this channel man. Everytime I hear your conversations I feel like I can fit right in to being a part of it. Not just because of the respect and appreciation I have towards hip-hop like you guys all do but the natural and unforced chemistry you guys create.

  • @jacobarmstrong5308
    @jacobarmstrong5308 4 года назад +4

    Kendrick's advantage is he's got a great team and label support (TDE/Aftermath/Interscope). He's got Punch and Top guiding his releases. Lupe spent about half of his career beefing with Atlantic, and his manager locked up after FnL.

  • @jonathansaraco
    @jonathansaraco 4 года назад +46

    I personally wouldn't ever include delivery, flow, cadence, or anything like that when talking about lyricism. All you need is a lyric sheet to judge lyricism in my opinion.

    • @willieboyland3180
      @willieboyland3180 4 года назад +14

      Not true. Pick any successful lyrical emcee from Rakim to Eminem and you'll see that delivery, flow and cadence is a major component of separating the gifted from the talented....

    • @jonathansaraco
      @jonathansaraco 4 года назад +11

      @@willieboyland3180 Yeah, when evaluating an MC top to bottom, of course. But delivery has nothing to do with LYRICISM. I'm not saying all of those don't matter. Just they don't factor into a discussion of lyricism. Obviously a rapper is gonna be shit if they rap like a robot with no emotions, even if they have amazing lyrics. But I can still say they have amazing or top tier lyricism even if they're ability to rap those lines are shit.

    • @willieboyland3180
      @willieboyland3180 4 года назад +4

      @@jonathansaraco If the delivery is trash you're not gonna even think twice about how lyrical they are. It has to go hand and hand....

    • @willieboyland3180
      @willieboyland3180 4 года назад +4

      @lendra2010 Poetry and rapping are two totally different approaches fam. Take any lyrical rapper, write down his lyrics on a piece of paper and give it to any random person that can read past a third grade level and see if you think those lyrics are amazing or trash? You gotta have the flow to match the lyrics or it's not really lyricism....

    • @tc98826
      @tc98826 4 года назад +6

      Thats just literature. Rapping is a performing art. Rap lyrics need to be constructed in an engaging way, and delivered with the right timing and emphasis. They need to flow on top of/alongside the beat. The rhyme scheme should change a few times to avoid monotony.
      A great lyricist knows how to construct bars and deliver them for maximum impact.

  • @OrashiTV
    @OrashiTV 4 года назад +30

    The Cool
    Food and Liquor
    The Fahrenheit trilogy
    Pharaoh Height
    Tetsuo & Youth
    Drogas Wave
    The answer is so obvious. . .

    • @ahmedfiasco6412
      @ahmedfiasco6412 4 года назад +3

      fr

    • @ese426
      @ese426 4 года назад +3

      Section 80
      Good Kid M.a.a.d City
      To Pimp a Butterfly
      Untitled Unmastered
      DAMN.
      I think the answer is obvious. I see no misses so far

    • @chandler6863
      @chandler6863 4 года назад +3

      prod.SwxttyEse he talking about lyrics

    • @ahmedfiasco6412
      @ahmedfiasco6412 4 года назад +3

      ​@@ese426 listen to hurt me soul, or glory by lupe.

    • @OrashiTV
      @OrashiTV 4 года назад +1

      No disrespect to Kendrick, he’s definitely the most consistent of the 2 when it comes to the quality of his albums, but RAPPING?
      The Fahrenheit trilogy alone is hard to top
      But like Myke said, when discussing lyricism, someone might look at cats like Navy Blue, Ka, Billy Woods or Tha God Fahim and consider them the GREATEST rappers ever, but their music just isn’t as accessible to the mainstream.

  • @izaiyacarter
    @izaiyacarter 4 года назад +482

    kendrick is a better artist, lupe is a better lyricist. literally everyone agrees with this

    • @S.CDRONE
      @S.CDRONE 4 года назад +11

      I know right. I literally don’t know why people dragging this still

    • @dallashanson_
      @dallashanson_ 4 года назад +38

      That’s not true. Food and Liquor, The Cool, and Tetso and Youth are comparable to any Kendrick albums.

    • @S.CDRONE
      @S.CDRONE 4 года назад +13

      Dallas Hanson he not comparing project, he comparing skills

    • @jomarcoliverman4971
      @jomarcoliverman4971 4 года назад +12

      I wouldn’t say better artist because both are dope artists I think Kendrick makes song’s more radio friendly but definitely agree as a lyricist Lupe is better

    • @cafenightster4548
      @cafenightster4548 4 года назад +5

      @@jomarcoliverman4971 Yup, Lupe better lyrics wise and an actual artist, does it for the artistry(last two albums) . Kendrick is cool, but its more appealing to a bigger audience. Logic and Kendrick is a better match up.

  • @TalibAlAminDhakir
    @TalibAlAminDhakir 4 года назад +5

    Lupe is one of the most truthful. He was on point with his comments.

  • @enigmasdestiny1355
    @enigmasdestiny1355 3 года назад +4

    I'm coming back to this after Lupe merked Royce da 5'9 and then started putting out lyrical practice.

  • @intelligencecycle3523
    @intelligencecycle3523 4 года назад +7

    I miss the DEHH conversations it’s always feel good way to talk on some rap music.

  • @jdrobinson3468
    @jdrobinson3468 4 года назад +34

    Lupe Fiasco would Renegade Kendrick Lamar on a track.

    • @cdben4671
      @cdben4671 4 года назад +2

      When’s the last time he dropped??

    • @96god2
      @96god2 4 года назад

      Depends what type of track they do

    • @jacobschippell2058
      @jacobschippell2058 4 года назад +5

      CD Ben Lupe had waves last year and that 4 track house ep in late july

    • @cdben4671
      @cdben4671 4 года назад

      Jacob Schippell I’ll have to check it out, thanks

    • @willieboyland3180
      @willieboyland3180 4 года назад +7

      I don't think so. Kendrick knows how to silver surf the hell out of a beat....

  • @AckeeandSaltfish
    @AckeeandSaltfish 4 года назад +3

    I love the guy with the braids..Lyricism is about LYRICS and words.. delivery is not a metric to lyricism but more so to the overall artistry.. delivery, cadence, lyricism are separate components to a whole.

  • @drkstunt
    @drkstunt 4 года назад +3

    For almost any mood I'm in, sad, happy indifferent, whatever. I can throw on "the show goes on" and vibe.

  • @willieboyland3180
    @willieboyland3180 4 года назад +4

    Be Humble speaks to the point at 9:05. Not the most lyrically thought provoking record, yet very catchy as far as mainstream criteriors go. Adding that it also was a subliminal diss record (insert any similar competing artist at the time: Drake, Big Sean, Kanye) and you have a recipe for success. Similar to Ether and Takeover. Takeover was not a radio friendly record lyrically and production-wise, however Ether, the more simplistic of the two was the more catchy record hence deciding the determining factor of the outcome....

  • @mr.penguin4614
    @mr.penguin4614 4 года назад +5

    its honestly a good match up. i enjoy kendrick as an artist more, there's just something about they way he conveys his abstract emotions and thoughts into his music that comes off more impactful than lupe, but bar for bar and intricate rhyme schemes with solid cohesiveness to his projects, yeah lupe probably.

  • @sharkisland8550
    @sharkisland8550 4 года назад +9

    When they said feefo wasn't with us i started sweating nervously as hell

  • @kevthepoet
    @kevthepoet 4 года назад +9

    It's worth noting that Lupe stopped making accessible pop songs when he got off the label.

  • @imransaid9184
    @imransaid9184 4 года назад +8

    the thing is, its difficult to have this conversation with people who aren't familiar with lupe's early mixtape series. That was the era where he had crazy wordplay but was still rapping about accessible subject matter. and yes, i think lupe is the better lyricist.

  • @KazamaFury
    @KazamaFury 4 года назад +4

    A lot of Kendrick’s non-radio tracks are some of my favorite. hood politics and good kid are two that immediately come to mind

  • @Pasicho
    @Pasicho 4 года назад +37

    Aesop Rock vs Lupe is a way better discussion if you really want to get into complex raps.

    • @dadorage1695
      @dadorage1695 4 года назад +15

      Lupe and Ka too

    • @erboch7124
      @erboch7124 4 года назад

      Eeeeexactly

    • @thatladfromsheffield
      @thatladfromsheffield 4 года назад +3

      Doesnt he just rap random words that rhyme?

    • @dadorage1695
      @dadorage1695 4 года назад +6

      @@thatladfromsheffield No he doesn't

    • @thatladfromsheffield
      @thatladfromsheffield 4 года назад +7

      @@dadorage1695 doesn't..like bossoms above the love muscle controlling bicentennial truffles like my penny is muffled?

  • @traewes
    @traewes 4 года назад +4

    It amazes me how they still don’t have a million subscribers 🤦🏾‍♂️
    Dehh is the truth.

  • @SirrAHMiller
    @SirrAHMiller 4 года назад +1

    This is a GREAT conversation piece! It 12 AM here and I had to hit my boys IMMEDIATELY to have our out discussion...

  • @lmv2.787
    @lmv2.787 4 года назад +3

    I'm bias because Lupe is my favorite rapper so you know who I'm going with.

  • @Flow349
    @Flow349 4 года назад +46

    Yes. Kendrick can probably make a better body of work and will more than likely end his career with a better discography. But he can not out rap Lupe. I’m saying that as a fan of both.

    • @cgs20
      @cgs20 4 года назад +3

      Kendrick already has a better discography than Lupe tho

    • @Flow349
      @Flow349 4 года назад +8

      Carter Simmons My favorites are Food & Liquor, The Cool, Tetsuo & Youth, Drogas Wave and all the mixtapes bump. I’m not gonna really compare Kendrick discography to his until Kendrick at least drops two more. But he is on pace to have a better catalog and that’s fine

    • @ummok720
      @ummok720 4 года назад

      Lupe has great concepts in terms of lyrics but kendrick has flow and delivery.

    • @cgs20
      @cgs20 4 года назад +1

      F.L.O.W. I think Kendrick has 4/4 great albums, and Lupe’s 3/7. Not to mention, Drogas Wave, which is my favorite Lupe album, is nowhere near either TPAB or GKMC.

  • @edwarlock8244
    @edwarlock8244 4 года назад +21

    Lol it’s funny how everyone keeps pitting them against each other, when in reality they are so alike. They are both in the same realm of artistry and concepts. They both have elite skills in their respective styles, but in no way is one of them better than the other. We should be celebrating both of them because just between them two, you have a large chunk of the top ten best rap albums of the 21st century.

    • @BoneInYaHead
      @BoneInYaHead 4 года назад +5

      I think that's why they get compared so often, Kendrick is sort of a successor to Lupe's FL and Cool days, that sweet spot of smart, conscious lyricism with nice accessible production

    • @brashadcarr6759
      @brashadcarr6759 4 года назад

      exactly

    • @bundydachosen1
      @bundydachosen1 4 года назад +1

      Why do y’all cry over comparisons ?

  • @malibongwesimelane5423
    @malibongwesimelane5423 4 года назад +4

    I love Kedrick more, but listening to a song like 'Mural' (Lupe), I get Lupe's point.

  • @dartecoates9262
    @dartecoates9262 4 года назад +2

    Lupe's mixtapes have delivered the dopest lines I have ever heard. Theme music to a drive by is when I realized that andre 3000 had competition.

  • @b1thearchitect401
    @b1thearchitect401 2 года назад +3

    Yes by a whole fucking lot. that's no disrespect to Kenny, Lupe's just an alien with the pen.

  • @chromomons
    @chromomons 4 года назад +12

    Love them or hate them, but these guys have really nice face masks.

  • @vayunlohani441
    @vayunlohani441 3 года назад +48

    Lupe is literally better lyricist than every rapper in history of hip hop

  • @justdewitt2140
    @justdewitt2140 4 года назад +36

    That would be "Lightwork" for Lupe ... the man Already" SLR 2'" ed K.Dot. for those who say different you can sit down and have a "Double Burger with Cheese" yall better Stop before y'all have ya boy hanging around like a "Strange Fruition". Lucky for y'all Lupe's on his "ITAL"(Roses). Let's paint you a "Mural", while a lot of y'all are "Prisoner 1 & 2" of the moment Lupe done Learned how to "Persevere" and Maintain his "Tranquillo". If y'all Don't understand the "Dots And Lines" don't say it's not "Hood Now" just admit you don't understand that man's "Body Of Work". "Form Follows Function" "Go To Sleep".

    • @sneak837
      @sneak837 4 года назад +4

      🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @producedbykhireyakeem4340
      @producedbykhireyakeem4340 4 года назад +5

      Bro you did that shit man! You killed it

    • @justdewitt2140
      @justdewitt2140 4 года назад

      @Produced By Khirey Akeem @@sneak837👀👀👀... They don't know

    • @BlackyVue
      @BlackyVue 4 года назад +3

      Fire 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 and they probably don't know the songs you referenced lol

    • @justdewitt2140
      @justdewitt2140 4 года назад +5

      @@BlackyVue unfortunately you're probably right, but ignorance is bliss, I guess.

  • @AZIZ18691
    @AZIZ18691 4 года назад +1

    I think both are equally talented. Both aren’t afraid to handle the deep stuff that is thought provoking and relatable. These are each artist has the ability to make you pause and think. I believe they respect each. IMO

  • @j.m.9519
    @j.m.9519 4 года назад +1

    Loved Secion 80 (hii power & ADHD) and Good kid maad city. Loved Food and liquor (Hurt me soul), The cool (gold watch), Tetsuo & Youth, Drogas Wave (Listen to Alan Forever). Both artists are amazing. It's about time they colab.

  • @SmokinAcesProd
    @SmokinAcesProd 4 года назад +18

    I believe the delivery portion has always played a part. Part of the reason Biggie or Jay were considered great lyricist was their delivery and flow.

    • @joeyscribbles6220
      @joeyscribbles6220 4 года назад +4

      no it has nothing do with delievery
      jay is a great lyricist, biggie really isnt.

    • @derekaddison4835
      @derekaddison4835 4 года назад +2

      @@joeyscribbles6220biggie was a lyricist. Are you serious? Don't be fooled by Juicy lol. Now was biggie on lupe's level lyrically? No, but neither is Jay.

    • @mizraimj
      @mizraimj 4 года назад +5

      @@joeyscribbles6220 Nah he's right. Biggie fooled so many people into thinking he's a top tier lyricist just by way of his amazing delivery.

    • @joeyscribbles6220
      @joeyscribbles6220 4 года назад +1

      @@derekaddison4835 Bigge was not a great lyricist he was like Pac a good lyricist. The Machine and trickery of diddy has made him try to be more lyricial than what he was

    • @joeyscribbles6220
      @joeyscribbles6220 4 года назад +1

      @@mizraimj P diddy influence, his flow, and east coast bias to go against Pac. Made Biiggie come off more lyrical than what he was
      Biggie was not close to Jay z in the lyricis department
      did he have songs where he go off? yes but that doesnt mean your great lyricist as other rappers have them to
      Funny thing is Pac has songs where he goes off lyrically to, even better than Big does. But Pac isnt praised or heralded for his lyrics as Biggie is.
      but lyricially both where close to each other both had a relatively similar style of rhyming.
      Gee I wonder why? LOL i think i already do know why tho

  • @quincycannon9350
    @quincycannon9350 4 года назад +4

    lupe's switch is an example of how different he can be

  • @dbz287
    @dbz287 4 года назад +8

    I don’t listen to Lupe like that and I know he’s more lyrical then Kendrick. The only thing is Lupe needs to stop arguing with Kendrick stans and even taking what they say into consideration. They’re stans there isn’t gonna be reasoning with them. But I do know that he goes live and just talks rap so maybe he was just answering questions and the media made a big deal.

  • @JstBEasy1312
    @JstBEasy1312 4 года назад

    Yes
    Thank you for coming to my TED talk

  • @RafaelEmilioRPK
    @RafaelEmilioRPK 4 года назад +1

    Damn man, this channel is great! I wish I have a group of friends to have those kind of discussions!

  • @lobstarooo
    @lobstarooo 4 года назад +4

    Kendrick and Lupe on a collab EP produced by RZA & Prince Paul. I would cream it until I'm dying of dehydration.

  • @siremet1009
    @siremet1009 4 года назад +4

    Damn Lupe and Kendrick would be epic. I'm still waiting on a Nas and Lupe track.

  • @ErnThaGAWD
    @ErnThaGAWD 4 года назад +43

    I'll say at times I've thought Ab-Soul was better than Dot lyrically.

  • @zlistcelebrityYT
    @zlistcelebrityYT 4 года назад +8

    Short answer: listen to “Failure”

  • @maikalangi5559
    @maikalangi5559 4 года назад

    Dude you guys are having the best conversation I’ve heard on this topic. Thank you so much for this! Everything you guys have brought up has to be the most accurate depiction of what it really is.

  • @bvbvjghjkjkj
    @bvbvjghjkjkj 4 года назад +14

    "Lupe Fiasco- Piece of paper/cup of jayzus" enough said

    • @MeisterGeekMedia
      @MeisterGeekMedia 4 года назад +2

      In terms of lyrics YES!!

    • @TroyAlonzio
      @TroyAlonzio 4 года назад

      don’t let ya inner fears resort in the outer coward

    • @MeisterGeekMedia
      @MeisterGeekMedia 4 года назад

      @narmaK Its a good song but the metaphors in piece of paper cup jayzus are in sane like peep this
      "Check it, now paper make a plane & paper make it rain
      But how fly is paper plane in the rain?
      I'm fly paper on the brain
      This and two-ply paper just ain't the same
      "
      Bruh lyrically and metaphorically this group of lines is alien

    • @potatotalitarian4231
      @potatotalitarian4231 4 года назад

      @@MeisterGeekMedia as if this ain't alien enough, "Compose yourself, like a self-aware opera, conjurer
      In the zone like Sonic, to produce me
      A sign of the end times in time
      To make profit off the t-shirts (shirts)
      And monetize all our research and leave Earth feet first
      Breech, behold """

    • @MeisterGeekMedia
      @MeisterGeekMedia 4 года назад

      @@potatotalitarian4231 Is this Lupe?

  • @CHarr1991
    @CHarr1991 4 года назад +8

    I love these two artists; so I’m ready for this discussion. I think Lupe really wants to do something with Kendrick, he just tries to “big bro” him sometimes with this funny competition

  • @blacksoapy
    @blacksoapy 4 года назад +16

    Lupe has god tier depth, Kdot has god tier flow. Both have godly lyrics

    • @dadorage1695
      @dadorage1695 4 года назад +5

      Lupe's flow is way underrated tbh

    • @ummok720
      @ummok720 4 года назад +2

      Both make albums you have to listen to more than once

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M 4 года назад +1

      The thing i can not stand about Kendrick is his flow

    • @blacksoapy
      @blacksoapy 4 года назад

      @@dadorage1695 he can def start spazzin but he usually raps as though he's talking to you, which is great but it can get boring

    • @blacksoapy
      @blacksoapy 4 года назад +1

      @@Christopher._M trippin lol. My gripe is his voice sometimes, respect how versitile it is, but it can be annoying

  • @yolandatheodore510
    @yolandatheodore510 4 года назад +2

    I LOVE LUPE AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET HIS FIRST CD AUTOGRAPHED FROM HIM ON THE MILITARY BASE. THAT TRACK "DUMB DOWNED" PROLIFIC. 😎😎😎😎😎

  • @JT9K
    @JT9K 4 года назад +3

    Both artists are skilled and elite. The final judgment will be based using the 5 Ancient Pillars of Rhyme Skills:
    1.FLOW - Kendrick
    2.LYRICISM - Lupe
    3.DEPTH - Lupe (by a hair)
    4.VERSATILITY of rhyme styles - Kendrick (by a hair)
    5.CADENCE (confidence in ability and conviction of bars spit) - EVEN
    CONCLUSION - both are 🔥 🔥 🔥

  • @dynamicjaethought7788
    @dynamicjaethought7788 4 года назад +10

    Yeah, of course he is. Kendrick doesn't even use half the skill Lupe does. Lupe has intricate bars, that you have to breaking down multiple times to get the meaning of. Kendrick is awesome, but Lupe is a better lyricist.

  • @lancesexton1254
    @lancesexton1254 4 года назад +14

    Did you'll forget that 1/4 of Kendrick control verse almost word for word was Kurupt verse from "Get Bizy"

    • @LoveyoDance
      @LoveyoDance 4 года назад

      People seem to forget that...even when that verse dropped older acts were losing their shit over this King of Ny shit...

    • @damianjimenez8519
      @damianjimenez8519 4 года назад

      did you forget that 1/4 of most rappers bars are quotes of other rappers? “ I say a BIG quote I’m only bigging up my brother”

    • @joeyscribbles6220
      @joeyscribbles6220 4 года назад

      Facts

    • @lancesexton1254
      @lancesexton1254 4 года назад

      @@damianjimenez8519 you should watch Company Man Lupe Fiasco vs. Kendrick Lamar "The Art of Stealing"

    • @damianjimenez8519
      @damianjimenez8519 4 года назад

      Lance Sexton i have, I fuck with Justin. But he’s said on multiple occasions that he’s a Lupe Stan also.

  • @86Sentra
    @86Sentra 4 года назад +30

    only reason y’all keep saying mainstream is because kendrick is so big. his music not even watered down.

    • @PaintedHoundie
      @PaintedHoundie 4 года назад +6

      Mainstream doesn't mean watered down so the statement still stands. If your entire country knows who you are, and you're performing at the Grammys and are getting awards from the most popular institutions you are mainstream. Its not a word used to describe something inauthentic, its a word used to describe how popular something is. Kendrick charts billboard every time he drops music. That's mainstream.

    • @yhhkj529
      @yhhkj529 2 года назад

      You think his verse on Taylor Swift’s Bad Blood wasn’t watered down?

  • @stevenewton6776
    @stevenewton6776 4 года назад +1

    Every Kendrick and Lupe Radio Song www.billboard.com/music/kendrick-lamar/chart-history/RSA www.billboard.com/music/lupe-fiasco/chart-history
    K. Songs - Humble, Swimming pools, LOVE, Poetic Justice, LOYALTY, Bitch, Dont Kill My Vibe, DNA, Kings Dead, Alright, i, These Walls, King Kunta, The Recipe.
    Features on - Control, Tints, Buy the World, Collard Greens, Fragile, Memories Back Then, New Freezer, Fuckin Problems
    Lupe Songs - The Show Goes On, Battle Scars, Superstar, Out of my head, Kick Push, Old School Love, Words I Never Said, Shining Down, Beautiful Lazers (2 Ways), Around My Way (Freedom Aint Free), Lamborghini Angels
    Features on - Touch The Sky

  • @3TooWonder
    @3TooWonder 4 года назад +2

    People have a hard time dealing with their own with bias. It's okay to admit something another artist does better than your favorite. That doesn't mean you've betrayed your favorite, nor does it make said artist better overall. This is most common in music and sports.

  • @kamtho
    @kamtho 4 года назад +18

    Just wanna throw it out there that Tetsuo and Youth did the whole "different album in reverse" thing better than Damn imo