Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem Lacrymosa & Amen fugue
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2013
- Énekel az Ország 2013.
Composer: Mozart & Pánczél Tamás
Conductor: Hollerung Gábor
Choir: United Choir of Hungary and Canada
Orch.: Dohnányi Ernő Symphonic Orchestra 
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Sublime! Brought tears to my eyes, tears of joy and the pain of loss.
tears in my eyes! You are completely right.
‘Completers’ of the Mozart Fragment Codex 1756.1a (K. 626) sometimes forget what Abbe Maximilian Stadler was told by Mozart’s Widow (‘Mozart’s widow told me that rummaging thro’ his stand up writing table she came across a large pile of ‘zettelschen mit Musik’ [scraps of paper with musical-sketches /outlines written in them] which she handed to Herr Suessmayr to help him with his completion of the Requiem-but what actual music they contain’d she did not recall…’) and it would be foolhardy to think M. did not have a hand in the 4 vocal parts & baseline of the Lacrymosa (Mozart’s autograph breaks off at bar 8) for bars 9-22 in Suessmayr’s completion - which bear the authentic musical stamp of ‘genuine Mozartean material’ despite a few mis-copied notes especially in the inner voices which may well have been due to his misreading of Mozart’s shorthand format used elsewhere customarily in his skizze…
Panczel Tamas’ decision to ditch all of the music in bars 9-22 in the Suessmayr completion efforts is unforgivable - especially when what he wrote to ‘fill in the blank pages’ after bar 8 is not Mozartean in either ‘stile of utterance’ nor in thematic or harmonic content - perhaps he should have been content merely to ‘correct the obvious mistakes = misreadings’ of Suessmayr’s rush’d version rather than invent non-Mozartean material out of whole cloth - and his Amen fugal completion (based on the 1960 Berlin Sketch of 16-bars dated c. Sept/Oct 1791) also ‘goes nowhere’ in terms of where Mozart himself would have done to represent the 7th section of a 7-part Trope Sequentia (sometimes aka ‘Dies Irae’) as he had previously done say in 1783 with his great c-minor Mass K. 427 (in his fugal ending to the 7th movement of the ‘Gloria’ in C-major) which likewise uses a 7-note Gregorian Cantù’s Firmus upon which to build (listeners would have to compare and consult the score itself to see what I am talking about) - still, any ‘completer’ contributes (whether positively or negatively [as in this case] and we can only suggest that an advanced AI programme connected to a Quantum Computer could suggest several dozen more-acceptable and ‘Mozartean completions’ of this and other missing sections of the Requiem which were very hastily patched-together by Herr Suessmayr - retaining the ‘authentic’ from the ‘synthetic’ Mozartean ingredients …
Wow. This completion is just so original, extremely interesting. If it had been written by Mozart, it would have been considered very modern, as I can hear some early Romantic tendentions in Lacrimosa choral parts. The melody and cadences resemble the 2nd movement of Beethoven's 7th symphony. I love horns and woodwinds - they are much more mozartean than in Eybler/Sussmayr completion. Now I'm really curious how can I listen to the whole completion, which Tamas wrote in 2006...
I've been trying to find a recording of this completion for about 6 months, and I have yet to have any luck in doing so. Maybe somebody will hear us, eventually!
Ferrariman601 Please share iif you have any luck. :) btw in case you don;t know: Hogwood has a very good (imho) recording that uses a modern completion as well. :)
PawelecPOLAND Exactly my thoughts when it comes to this completion's resemblance to Beethoven's 7th symphony. It may not be the best Lacrimosa completion, but surely it is shocking and exciting to listen to.
@@filipilif I think I have found it, I'm 6 years late but who knows, you might still be around
ruclips.net/video/BrGSruAOKyg/видео.html&ab_channel=hollowchatter
@@F-Man I think I have found it, I'm 6 years late but who knows, you might still be around
ruclips.net/video/BrGSruAOKyg/видео.html&ab_channel=hollowchatter
this sounds like a medley of the best parts of the requiem
I had to laugh at your comment - this is exactly what I was thinking, too.
Because it is made with some parts of the Requiem (the subject of the fugue is a stretto version of the Requiem aeternam theme)
Great video. Thank you for this
There's a clear connection with the Dies Irae, and, in that sense, this completion is absolutely plausible to be what Mozart had in mind. Who knows?
I really like the idea of using material of the "Dies Irae" movement to complete the Sequentia. It's a really good resolution to the Motet structure laid out by Mozart and a good sense of musical unity.
This may be the most interesting take on the Lacrimosa I've ever heard.
Has this composer written a completion for the entirety of the Requiem as well? If so, where might I find it?
Levin has done a complete recreation of Mozart's Requiem, relying on Mozart's own notes, & clues from past works (secular & sacred) that Mozart had written.
Marcus Hicks Yes, I've heard Robert Levin's completion and I think it's magnificent! I'm wondering however, if this composer, Pánczél Tamás, has written a completion of the entire work, or if he has only done the Lacrimosa.
+Ferrariman601 The full completion is - as of the posting of this comment - the most recent video on my channel. Great stuff.
Deixem o Requiem de Mozart em paz.
não até ele completar ele mesmo, o que como ele não pode fazer deixa o direito de qualquer compositor de fazer suas próprias conclusões com a obra assim como fez Sussmayr
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The saddest thing of this is that we can't really know how Lacrymosa would really be or if the Amen fugue was really intended for the requiem.
And adding up, let's not forget that the Amen fugue is a sketch... how would the fugue be if it was completed?
The only thing I miss in this piece is the 0:40 lower tone that's in the traditional completion
reeeeeeally like the part with the four soloists in the lacrimosa (which I am convinced Mozart would have done himself). not so much the rest...
1:03 like Beethoven
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