Never bother selling your bike to them. I have a pretty high end MTB and they gave me only store credit and a very small amount as an option. It was a joke.
Same experience. Figured based on what they were selling similar bikes for that they'd make a fair offer. Nope. $1700 for a 2 year old $6000 bike in pretty good shape.
Just bought a Levo carbon comp electric but still also ride my carbon stump jumper . You’re right, adds lots of fun for places I couldn’t ride before at age 69
+1 here. New Turbo Levo and still have my Stumpy too. Love them both! Have fun with the new ride Alex! Look forward to lots of videos on both your rigs.
I was sure it was going to be a gravel bike. Also what’s next, you riding clipless pedals? Looks like fun but I refuse to get into this genre until I am physically not able to pedal my enduro (my 1 quiver do it all)
My boss got an e-bike so he could ride with a couple of us from work. He put it really nicely when we got done with a long ride. He said “I might be ‘cheating’ with this bike, but I wouldn’t be out here with you guys without it.” E-bikes are great.
50% of yo will dislike this bike....knew it was an e-MTB!!!! 95% of those who "Dis" e-MTBs have either A) Never ridden one or B) nothng more than a parking lot or very short trail ride. MORE MILES MORE SMILE!!!! I'm older and have only been riding a few years.....Still get a great workout, see way more miles, have way more smiles....It basically allows me to ride at a fitness level that is about two steps higher than reality on my analog bike........Will be interesting to see your content around this bike. I can tell, you're kinda hooked already :) ......Great video!!!
I have an Orbea Rise and absolutely love it, I still get a workout riding but most importly it allows me to keep up with my 15yr old and actually enjoy being out riding with him.
Using pros closet should get a downvote more than anything. That place is a joke. Offered me $1200 less than what I sold my used YT for and the stuff you can buy on their site is barely priced better than brand new. I hate e-bikes too. I’m sure they’re fun but if I want basically zero fitness I’ll just go with a full dirt bike. This in between moped stuff is silly. I ride bicycle for their mechanic simplicity, once that’s gone… no thanks.
Congrats on the new bike Alex! I picked up an ebike last year to help with my asthma issues while riding. Its been the best thing to get me out and keep me out on the trails.
2 Points 1. We can still hear your whoops over the noise of the bike so al good. 2. You're having fun, regardless of the battery or not - that is the name of the game so cudos on the new bike.👍
As a Veteran with knee issues, these lightweight eMTB are giving me hope I'll be able to ride again after a decade plus. I'm glad someone of your influence is giving positive feedback. I can deal with the eMTB haters, but not having many places to ride is the main issue preventing me (well, aside from price). At the end of the day, that bike isn't much heavier than some enduro bikes 36-38lb. The whole weight doing more trail erosion thing is BS anyways because someone on a 10lb lighter bike but 10lb heavier than you is putting the same loads on the trails.
I always reserve my judgement on eMTB's for cases like yourself; they provide an opportunity to keep people in the sport and I will say that as eMTB's are getting more popular in my own area, it's mainly been individuals like yourself using them. I don't need one yet, but I don't want to rule it out for the future.
I was going to joke to Alex and say he switched to the other side but I can't. It makes me so mad when someone with a ebike catches disrespect. My buddy was talked to bad by someone who didn't even know him. My buddy was a moto cross rider and had more metal plates in him than the SOB giving him the hate had in his 7 grand overbiked bike he didn't know how to ride. You ride on brother and don't let anyone discourage you. And thank you for my freedom
eMTBs have benefits for reasons you've mentioned and I don't place judgement on anyone who rides one. However, I think for the trail erosion argument, eMTBs still have the potential to cause more erosion, but not because they weigh more. For instance, a trail system that I ride has a big climb before any descent can be made. On my regular enduro bike, I can only make that climb once or maybe twice then I'm done. I've seen an increase in people riding on those trails in the last few years and most people have eMTBs. Some of the guys in good shape can cycle through 2-3x as much as I can with the help from the electronic assistance. The trails have become noticeably more rutted and the trail no longer looks like a single track, which is unfortunate because it's also a walking trail. So, I don't know if there's a solution to this, but I guess if it were up to my suggestion, I would recommend that people either be mindful of the amount of times they ride a trail or if they are physically capable, maybe they might consider riding a regular bike
@@SuperGoforitall Hey I don't mean to butt in but they can slow down before a turn and stop dragging the brakes. I'm seeing a lot of that. I ride with a fella that rides an ebike because he's all busted up from his day's riding MX and I'm fine with it but more focus needs to be put on the correct style of riding, I used to ride dirt bikes and I ride my MTN bike in a total different way. Those riding ebikes because of health reasons might can't do much trail maintenance but someone able to work needs to get with the trail maintenance crew and sweat out the erosion problems where riders come into a turn to fast and hit the brakes. My buddy now knows the trail and hardly ever hits his brakes unless it's to wait on me 😃. Anyway just letting off some steam. Later my friend
So happy to see that you're supporting the existence of ebikes on the trails. I'm 72 years old and I have been riding mtb since 1987 and I did quite a bit of racing when I was younger so I'm familiar with "acoustic" bikes. I bought a Specialized Turbo Levo last year so that I could ride longer and further and I love it (I ride the local trails at least 3 times a week). I will say that mountain biking seemed like a true brotherhood until I got my ebike. Most of the folks on the trails are friendly and interested in my bike but there are definitely hard feelings from quite a few riders who have something against ebikes. I don't understand what the beef is, aren't we all out there to have fun? I have had some surgeries and I have some of the challenges that come with old age such as arthritis, I wouldn't be out there enjoying the trails without the ebike. To those of you who don't approve of ebikes, lighten up and enjoy the entire mtb tribe!
This is exactly one of the reasons I think e-bike is as proper as a normal bike, it can pro-long the fun for anyone with some issues, or make it so a person can become fitter through just having fun, if thebperson suffered from overweight or just plain bad physique
You forgot fraud. Pro closest is one of the worst places to buy a bike, new, used or other. Not sure what's worse, the fact he took the sponsorship knowing they are over priced or if he took the deal without doing ANY research on the company and its customers. I get it, he needs to make money and sustain his channel, but never push something you wouldn't use urself.
@@The_Samplerawesome bro 😎 yeaaaaaaaa Dude ! See I TOLD YOU Ebike for your adventures will be so much better cos you can still climb but not get so tired 😴
The Kenevo SL is such a fun bike. I was riding the shop demo most of the winter. Felt so good, as I already had an Enduro, but, dang, smile on your face any time you hop aboard. You'll be stoked on that bike, especially because you can ride with people not on e-bikes and it still feels like a regular bike once aboard.
Maybe I’m crazy, but ridden has always been about the fun factor first, workout has always been a by product of fun on a bike, so no matter what you ride, ride it for the fun of it…
Would never sell or buy from TPC. They will low ball an offer on your bike, and then charge about MSRP for a 2 year old bike. Crazy that people use their service.
Turbo Kenevo SL. Great 1st e-bike pick! Welcome to the great new world of great e-bikes! Wait till you try it out in Colorado on a 2500+ foot climb. You will appreciate it. We ride them in Salida, especially to climb to the Rainbow trail or above 10,000 feet! There is a reason that 70% of the sales in Europe are e-bikes. It's the amazing fun factor!
I have MS and am >60 yo. I started Mtn biking in 1986 and it's been a huge part of my life. My right leg fatigues way quickly now in my hip flexor and hamstring due the nerve issues. It got so I was too fatigued to unclip and put my right leg down when needed and riding became dangerous and scary. Plus I kept falling over when trying to stop. 😞I have been on an ebike for 2 years now. It's gotten me back out riding regularly in a way that I could never do anymore on my acoustic bike. More often, more miles and more fun. Safer too. A few years ago I saw a TGR movie profiling pro racer Paul Basagoitia who had a devastating spinal injury. He said that he was incredibly angry with biking after the accident and never thought he'd be on a bike again. Then the film showed him ripping up the trail and jumps on a pedal assist ebike in Crested Butte. He said that that was the first time that he felt like himself again since the accident. I wasn't angry at biking but I was angry at my body and now being on an ebike I know exactly what Paul meant. I feel like me again. I live in Summit County CO and there is huge anti ebike sentiment here. It sucks to feel ostracized by the community that I felt so much a part of before. I am so glad to see so many positive comments about e-biking and no haters. And to the guy on the trail who was screaming at me to "get out of here" and then told me he knows that he'll be on an ebike one day. I need it now and the "rules" need to change. Here's hoping that people start to come around and see that EMTB's are still bikes..... just better!!!
Ebikes are awesome and it's annoying that state parks like dupont forest don't allow them. It doesn't do anything to the trail that regular bikes do and it would allow soooo many more people to get on and try mountain biking.
Nope. Its the way some ebike riders behave. That throttle makes some want to ruin it for the rest of us. I believe nobody is stressing how much better the LACK of a throttle is for everybody. As with motorcycles in the 70's, we shall all be banned riding on public lands in the near future due to the 1% who simply do not care. At present, I cannot get anyone NOT riding an eBike to wave or smile in return. It is getting bad. And yes you get a great workout on an eBike.
E-bikes are great but because they are heavier and the added torque they do rip softer trails more especially if there are hoards of them running the same track over and over, if all I rode is hard pack and western mountain I would definitely.
@@jackmcandle6955the thing is a fatter or more fit rider would do the same. ebikes are like 10kg more at most. peoples weight difference is A LOT more.
I feel like E-bikes are a reflection of the downfall of society... I don't wanna work for it.. I just want the good stuff... No offense to anyone who digs them. To each their own.. I just like working for it... I think their is a satisfaction you don't get when the bike does the work for you... When I climb a big hill... I feel like I worked hard and earned it.. Not sure I would feel that way with a motor. Just my thoughts... I've never used one so take it with a grain of salt.
i know it fun and all to tow people. but talking from experience, we have two of the turbo levo bikes and racing around everywhere in turbo mode and occasionally towing people really wears on the motor. we still have the warranty (wich is a lifesaver) because we have replaced the motor 2 coming up on 3 times on each bikes now. because of this we usualy avoiid towing and try to use the less powerfull modes. its hard, especialy after knowing what it feels like blasting UP the trails almost as fast as going down. just keep this in mind when towing people or riding hard for long periods in turbo mode.
After all the bad stuff I've read about the pros closet it sucks to see mtb content creators pushing their brand. I looked at them a while ago and was just turned off from them because of their crap prices. But ive read nothing but bad things about them since then.
honestly an underrated part of ebikes is the grip they have. the extra weight at a lower spot on the bike is oddly helpful. If i ever get a new bike it will be an ebike.
Yeah, they are amazingly stable and corner really well in my experience. Even on low speed tech, the low center of gravity makes them easy to balance and track stand at low speed.
I don’t know what I hate more people saying analog or acoustic for a normal pedal bike. It makes me cringe that they are just trying to make it more hipster like it’s a freaking E bike or a pedal bike.
I have often thought that with the number of trails you ride that require long climbs that an ebike would be really interesting. Looking forward to seeing what you think of it.
Man! Sick bike bro!! I had a full blown Levo but it's a bit too much and went back to a regular bike. Can't wait to see if maybe the SL is the sweet-spot. Congrats on the ride dude
Let the haters hate…I used to be one of them -now I have shifted and changed gears! Some people ride bikes for exercise, some just for fun, some a combo of both. I fall into that last category…but sometimes I want to just maximize the fun part. So I shuttle, or go to a lift access park, and of course now -we can ride an e-bike! Flew to Bentonville, rented regular bikes for two days, and e-bikes for two days. When I got home after riding the e-bikes…I was just as tired because I rode more than double the distance and maximized the fun! 🤘 It will be fun to see this type of content from someone I have been following for years!
Love your videos. I noticed your 5K monitor is no longer mounted. Did it break? Did the mount fail? The work station in my van is loosely based on your design/monitor mount . I have not installed it yet, but have 1 1/4 inch of sandwiched plywood behind the paneling to mount into and I pre-ran the wires. Did your system hold up? Thanks for your help!
Excellent choice! I’m on a fully upgraded Levo and wouldn’t trade it for the world. Specialized can run quite silent besides the motor. Just need some adjustment. I’m not totally convinced about towing with an SL though.
Think about how much faster you picked up speed with 10lbs in the bike and then think about someone like me that's probably 50lbs more than you. Hahahahaha! I'm always teasing my buddy about how he'll be pedalling on a dh section and I'll be coasting and catching up to him or passing.
Great video dude! People who want to discredit or talk s**t about emtbs have obviously never spent time on them. They are so practical and make so much sense for those of us who have a life and are time poor. The well designed ones also handle amazing well and make the average trail a heap of fun. I bet you’ll end up spending more time on it than your analog bike. Enjoy mate👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I think the best way to test the workout portion is to wear a heart rate monitor, I hear chest mount is best, and ride a local trail that has a good climb on your old bike one day and ride the same trail the next day on the e-bike and compare your heart rate and calories burned. You could also use the heart rate monitor to test each of the climbing settings on the bike to see just how much of a difference each setting makes.
Pretty sure that if you actually watch the vid you will see you are very wrong as the entire premise is about getting a new bike and having fun on it - very much on brand. The controversy is all in the comments, not in my video. Cheers!
@@The_Sampler You started the controversy yourself by accusing people who disagree with you of being "Karens" and then "crazy". Not exactly the way to start a respectful discussion.
That’s awesome. I bet you’ll love it. Don’t know why people hate on e-bikes. They are still a bike. They open the sport upto people that have health issues (like me/ asthma) that couldn’t safely ride otherwise. Also means you can get out after work and shred out 3 or 4 laps over 1. They are just a different tool for the same fun sport. I love them. But also love hardtails and everything in between. 🎉
You DEFINITELY get a workout bro , any ebike you ride just put it in “ Eco mode “ and you will soon find out ! 😂 it’s like 80% you and 20% motor power 👍🏾
@@The_Sampler I did some research and turns out the increased weight actually gives you more momentum. So, even though you are not getting more speed, the speed you have can be carried further
Before you even said you struggling to get it out was a hint, just that first tug on the box was obvious 😂 Curious to see how you feel about an ebike :)
I am curious to find out where you are actually going to ride the thing. I have been wanting one but not a lot of places to ride unless you pay at a bike park. And I am at the age where I limit my jumping so I am wondering where you find legal trails in Western NC to ride. Good luck and be safe on it!
While it's not a perfect science, maybe track your calories burned until you hit a certain number (1000, for example). Ride the same climbs and trails until you hit 1000 calories burned. Wear a chest heart rate monitor, and see how long it takes you to burn 1000 calories. Ebikes will help you ride longer, which is awesome, but you will definitely burn less calories on climbs, but maybe more on downhills since the bike is heavier. Downhill workouts/calories could be different too, and they're just as important (using different muscles throwing the bike around while jumping and whipping through turns). Handling a heavier bike going downhill could burn more calories than your standard acoustic bike.
Already did that, Turbo Levo SL Comp Alloy 2019, 58,49KM distance - 1178 Cal. (1,5h moving time). Now the fun thing: 3 hours moving time - 1024 Cal - 60.04KM on 320Wh battery - it means that I used 106W per hour, but the thing is this was a 5 hour trip with stops (when bike was not turned off) so technically it was more like 60Watt per 1h. I came back quite tired, the trail was flat but still I wanted to drain-test the battery.
was thinking of one of them for the climb to my local FFL, 9 miles up a 45 degree grade. but decided against it as normal bike for same price has far better components.
When i got my first ebike rm altitude poweplay i was riding it nonstop for 2 weeks but then started to dislike it because i noticed its not replacing what i can do or feel with my trailbike and i started to notice that i was loosing fitness since i used to train a lot. Now its my cheat day bike. I train 5 days a week with mixed gym and long rides on my regular bikes and on friday is my cheatday and i ride some downhill trails when my legs are sour from the training before. In my old age its important to me that i keep my edge and create enough strss on my system to stay fit. I wouldn’t like to have only an ebike, it would make me weaker but as a addition to the training its actually awesome.
Nice choice for your riding needs. I switched to an EMTB after breaking my back a few years back. It really aided in my recovery. I watched your video recently on the kind of workout you get on an EMTB. It looked like you pushed yourself on the ebike no differently then you did on your analog bike. I do the same. The difference is that my speeds, distances, and climb difficulties increased. I ride for a fitness, and fun benefit. That does not change from analog to EMTB. What ever makes others happy is up to them. I like my EMTB as it increases the fun factor on my rides. The more fun I have, the more often I end up craving a ride. For those that don't want an EMTB, ride an MTB. They are both amazing and a great excuse to play on a bike like we did as kids. It's a win win. Live to love. Love to ride, encourage others to find their stoke .
You could do a comparison of calories burned and HR through out the ride. More recent Garmin devices have e-mtb as an option that takes into account the power of the bike.
It's absolutely crazy what you guys have to deal with in the U.S regarding eBikes. Here at Spain, an ebike it's like a normal bike. All trails are avaliable from both. Most of the new bikes sell these days over here are eBikes. Once you try it's hard to go back if you are only looking for fun.
Welcome to the E Club, 71 years young, I am still riding Crested Butte and Moab, thanks to my Turbo Levo, still have my Stumpjumper but could never climb real mountains, getting a little, "long in the tooth" shall I say. I am an admitted flat earther from Florida. All the E-bike haters will eventually find, what I discovered. I understand exactly how they feel, I felt the same way, until I was able to climb 5000' in Colorado up to nearly 11,000', without O2, LOL. I like my shuttle service. Teocalli Ridge CB Trail 557, 2023 Slickrock Trail Moab, no problem. The bike does not move unless I pedal it is almost 😄bionic.
I ride an Ibis Ripley for mountain biking, but I also did a lot of road riding on a Giant Defy Road Bike. Funny thing is, I'm not as young as I use to be (like I was when I rode a lot back in the 1990's) and I found myself not able to keep up with other bikers more than half my age. So I got myself a Trek Road E-Bike. What I've learned so far about E-Bikes: I'm still getting a great workout, even after a 20-30 mile ride and that I can now keep pace with other riders. I also learned that climbing hills now is a lot easier for this old man (I say that jokingly.) That said, I'm now thinking of purchasing myself an E-Mountain Bike for the same reasons. Thanks Alex for another great and informative video....GET STOKED BRO 😎
I’ve built half a dozen e-bikes years ago but they’re pretty janky on trails. Now looking at getting a complete SL EMTB. In the interim as I approach 50 my mates have got full fat EMTB and I’ve lost fitness. Can a SL keep up with full fat bikes? 2 issues: speed and range.
Ah, a Specialized e-bike. You might as well eat a McDonalds, shop from Amazon and drink Starbucks coffee, whilst shopping on-line at Walmart. As boring, grey (no irony lost on it's colour) and corporate as you can get. Absolutely soulless.
Love the video, love the bike. I have seriously been considering buying one after years of hip problems. I was riding White Water Center yesterday and just pedaling through the pain. I can’t see myself hanging up the mtb due to physical limitations. E-bike may be the answer. Let me know when you box her up and send it it back. I would likely buy it! Keep posting great content and maybe we will cross paths in western NC someday.
Love the video, love the bike. I have seriously been considering buying one after years of hip problems. I was riding White Water Center yesterday and just pedaling through the pain. I can’t see myself hanging up the mtb due to physical limitations. E-bike may be the answer. Let me know when you box her up and send it it back. I would likely buy it! Keep posting great content and maybe we will cross paths in western NC someday.
Ebikes lead to way more laps, saddle time, progression, and fun. They add to your cardio through aerobic numbers, but not as much anaerobic. Basically, you don't bonk near as quickly and therefore ride for a much longer time. Actually burning more calories than the acoustic bike. I personally think on fast large jumps that they are better (more stable in the air with the low slung added weight)! Enjoy!
I love E bikes, even if I ride an analogue...just because they can bring more people to the sport, and they can be really efficient with your time, some friends ride on them and they are sick!, I truly get why people like them and it's totally fair. The only downside for me is actually how some people don't respect the rest of the riders in the trails, especially the young newbie who wants to show off he is the "boss" of the trail when you are going downhill, a couple of weeks ago an Ebiker overtook my girlfriend and make her fall in a risky area and just said "I thought I could do it" the problem is when their lack of experience ends up affecting the rest.
I'm on a full-power Levo. At the bike park yesterday there was a 45-minute wait for the lift. While I could climb the hill in 15 minutes. I got in 14 runs while my friends got in about 6 taking the lift.
That heavy-sticker is hilarious! Heavy to whom? Your little sister or your weightlifting world champion or your brother who haules kitchen appliances for a living? :P
Alex, you asked for ideas... RUclips shuffled from this onto your heartbreak ridge video... video idea for your ebike, ypu could do heartbreak again, to see how much easier it is assisted and how the battery lasts on a 26 mile loop.
I ride hard all day but the most fun I ever had was Test riding all these E bikes, when I went to Santos MTB park in Florida for a MTB festival and I had a blast, crazy fast , awesome jumps , no sweat 😥 , no lie , no sweat.. I want one ,
I work 80 hours plus do my RUclips channel and I wish I could afford a bike like that. Someday they ride an old-school full suspension. Just don’t have the money to buy a nice mid-level.
You mean "The Pro's overcharged prices closet?" Yeah, okay....I mean, I'm happy for the guy, they gave him any bike he wanted for a riding season? Geez, how generous. And of course, the deal was to plug the "Pro's rapers closet" as much as possible, right?? I'm literally 52 seconds into this and I am all done just because he's plugging and getting used by them.😅 Ahh, the things we will do for a shiny new ....wait, uh, an overpriced new bi..no...er, wait....a carefully photographed (as to hide blemishes as best as possible) used to be new once upon a time bike!! Yay!(new to him anyway)
He's right, I hate the idea of him buying an e-bike. Yes, they have a place for people who need some help, but In general I'm disappointed to see so many younger guys who are just lazy...
Ebike haters in my opinion are disappearing.. And now with the new game changer, pinion motor+gearbox+optional auto shift unit, it's going to have a bigger influence on everyone, I think.
42 pounds is super light man, my slash weighs 40 after i put a 38 and coil on it and its not even an e bike. Hopefully people don’t hate on the ebike and like biking with bobo has shown people that hate ebikes just haven’t ridden an ebike.
Shout out to Gravelo also for being the only shop in town to install ride wraps! Not sure public opinion of ride wrap but I love it! Has saved me multiple times for silly unnecessary dings and nicks!
I wouldn't say that you don't get a workout at all when riding an e-bike, but you do get less of a workout IMO (even if you are putting in the same effort as a normal bike, you go faster and thus put in that effort for less time)
I actually had an ankle injury and was planning on a new bike I am seriously considering a ebike it may be the only way I will be able to enjoy biking again
Ah yes, the pros closet. Why buy a new bike when you can buy a used bike at new bike prices!
Haha
Or sometimes even pay more!!
Totally. Was pretty interested when I first heard about it and then looked at the website and saw the prices. One of the worst business models.
Hey, don't forget that you also get constantly spammed by them once they have your email, even if you opt out!
@@tagzedawg 😂
Never bother selling your bike to them. I have a pretty high end MTB and they gave me only store credit and a very small amount as an option. It was a joke.
True factory suspension 2022 and they offered me less than 2k. Then they turn it around and sell a 4 year old bike for barely less than a new bike
This video is an ad lmao
Same experience. Figured based on what they were selling similar bikes for that they'd make a fair offer. Nope. $1700 for a 2 year old $6000 bike in pretty good shape.
yup, I tried selling to them and they completely low-balled me for store credit only
same here pros closet is a complete joke!
Just bought a Levo carbon comp electric but still also ride my carbon stump jumper . You’re right, adds lots of fun for places I couldn’t ride before at age 69
+1 here. New Turbo Levo and still have my Stumpy too. Love them both! Have fun with the new ride Alex! Look forward to lots of videos on both your rigs.
Nice 🤘🏽
You said 69....
I was sure it was going to be a gravel bike. Also what’s next, you riding clipless pedals?
Looks like fun but I refuse to get into this genre until I am physically not able to pedal my enduro (my 1 quiver do it all)
Amen.
Right on! I’m with ya
Yes. 100% yes.
Lame
My boss got an e-bike so he could ride with a couple of us from work. He put it really nicely when we got done with a long ride. He said “I might be ‘cheating’ with this bike, but I wouldn’t be out here with you guys without it.” E-bikes are great.
Exactly! But instead with my father.
anything other than walking is a form of "cheating"
50% of yo will dislike this bike....knew it was an e-MTB!!!! 95% of those who "Dis" e-MTBs have either A) Never ridden one or B) nothng more than a parking lot or very short trail ride. MORE MILES MORE SMILE!!!! I'm older and have only been riding a few years.....Still get a great workout, see way more miles, have way more smiles....It basically allows me to ride at a fitness level that is about two steps higher than reality on my analog bike........Will be interesting to see your content around this bike. I can tell, you're kinda hooked already :) ......Great video!!!
I have an Orbea Rise and absolutely love it, I still get a workout riding but most importly it allows me to keep up with my 15yr old and actually enjoy being out riding with him.
Using pros closet should get a downvote more than anything. That place is a joke. Offered me $1200 less than what I sold my used YT for and the stuff you can buy on their site is barely priced better than brand new.
I hate e-bikes too. I’m sure they’re fun but if I want basically zero fitness I’ll just go with a full dirt bike. This in between moped stuff is silly. I ride bicycle for their mechanic simplicity, once that’s gone… no thanks.
Congrats on the new bike Alex! I picked up an ebike last year to help with my asthma issues while riding. Its been the best thing to get me out and keep me out on the trails.
2 Points
1. We can still hear your whoops over the noise of the bike so al good.
2. You're having fun, regardless of the battery or not - that is the name of the game so cudos on the new bike.👍
I have the KSL too, the chattering noise is not normal, somethings loose.
I think it was the front fork mud guard that was making that sound! I got it sorted now :P
As a Veteran with knee issues, these lightweight eMTB are giving me hope I'll be able to ride again after a decade plus. I'm glad someone of your influence is giving positive feedback. I can deal with the eMTB haters, but not having many places to ride is the main issue preventing me (well, aside from price). At the end of the day, that bike isn't much heavier than some enduro bikes 36-38lb. The whole weight doing more trail erosion thing is BS anyways because someone on a 10lb lighter bike but 10lb heavier than you is putting the same loads on the trails.
I always reserve my judgement on eMTB's for cases like yourself; they provide an opportunity to keep people in the sport and I will say that as eMTB's are getting more popular in my own area, it's mainly been individuals like yourself using them. I don't need one yet, but I don't want to rule it out for the future.
I was going to joke to Alex and say he switched to the other side but I can't. It makes me so mad when someone with a ebike catches disrespect. My buddy was talked to bad by someone who didn't even know him. My buddy was a moto cross rider and had more metal plates in him than the SOB giving him the hate had in his 7 grand overbiked bike he didn't know how to ride. You ride on brother and don't let anyone discourage you. And thank you for my freedom
eMTBs have benefits for reasons you've mentioned and I don't place judgement on anyone who rides one. However, I think for the trail erosion argument, eMTBs still have the potential to cause more erosion, but not because they weigh more. For instance, a trail system that I ride has a big climb before any descent can be made. On my regular enduro bike, I can only make that climb once or maybe twice then I'm done. I've seen an increase in people riding on those trails in the last few years and most people have eMTBs. Some of the guys in good shape can cycle through 2-3x as much as I can with the help from the electronic assistance. The trails have become noticeably more rutted and the trail no longer looks like a single track, which is unfortunate because it's also a walking trail. So, I don't know if there's a solution to this, but I guess if it were up to my suggestion, I would recommend that people either be mindful of the amount of times they ride a trail or if they are physically capable, maybe they might consider riding a regular bike
@@SuperGoforitall Hey I don't mean to butt in but they can slow down before a turn and stop dragging the brakes. I'm seeing a lot of that. I ride with a fella that rides an ebike because he's all busted up from his day's riding MX and I'm fine with it but more focus needs to be put on the correct style of riding, I used to ride dirt bikes and I ride my MTN bike in a total different way. Those riding ebikes because of health reasons might can't do much trail maintenance but someone able to work needs to get with the trail maintenance crew and sweat out the erosion problems where riders come into a turn to fast and hit the brakes. My buddy now knows the trail and hardly ever hits his brakes unless it's to wait on me 😃. Anyway just letting off some steam. Later my friend
So happy to see that you're supporting the existence of ebikes on the trails. I'm 72 years old and I have been riding mtb since 1987 and I did quite a bit of racing when I was younger so I'm familiar with "acoustic" bikes. I bought a Specialized Turbo Levo last year so that I could ride longer and further and I love it (I ride the local trails at least 3 times a week). I will say that mountain biking seemed like a true brotherhood until I got my ebike. Most of the folks on the trails are friendly and interested in my bike but there are definitely hard feelings from quite a few riders who have something against ebikes. I don't understand what the beef is, aren't we all out there to have fun? I have had some surgeries and I have some of the challenges that come with old age such as arthritis, I wouldn't be out there enjoying the trails without the ebike. To those of you who don't approve of ebikes, lighten up and enjoy the entire mtb tribe!
Jealousy and envy my friend, no one who’s genuinely better than you will talk down on you for having one. They simply just don’t understand. Cheers 🍻
This is exactly one of the reasons I think e-bike is as proper as a normal bike, it can pro-long the fun for anyone with some issues, or make it so a person can become fitter through just having fun, if thebperson suffered from overweight or just plain bad physique
bEta-bikers coping so hard. 😂
Way to show off all your skills at once. From salesman to presenter to editor to rider and story teller. Nicely done.
You forgot fraud. Pro closest is one of the worst places to buy a bike, new, used or other. Not sure what's worse, the fact he took the sponsorship knowing they are over priced or if he took the deal without doing ANY research on the company and its customers. I get it, he needs to make money and sustain his channel, but never push something you wouldn't use urself.
Go ahead and order a battery extender because you will be riding this bike a lot
Can I just say: I'm love this consistent upload schedule
Yooo now THAT’S what i love to hear, glad you are enjoying! 👊🤘
@@The_SamplerI wuv you
@@The_Samplerawesome bro 😎 yeaaaaaaaa Dude ! See I TOLD YOU Ebike for your adventures will be so much better cos you can still climb but not get so tired 😴
The Kenevo SL is such a fun bike. I was riding the shop demo most of the winter. Felt so good, as I already had an Enduro, but, dang, smile on your face any time you hop aboard. You'll be stoked on that bike, especially because you can ride with people not on e-bikes and it still feels like a regular bike once aboard.
Buy from a local bike shop !
Hey it's Ball again! I'm glad you're doing well!
Maybe I’m crazy, but ridden has always been about the fun factor first, workout has always been a by product of fun on a bike, so no matter what you ride, ride it for the fun of it…
Thank you for calling the unassisted bike acoustic. It hurts my Electrical Engineer heart when they call push bikes "analog"
Would never sell or buy from TPC. They will low ball an offer on your bike, and then charge about MSRP for a 2 year old bike. Crazy that people use their service.
ah yes the pro's closet, why buy a bike from a solid bike shop when you can buy it from a used cares salesman as it swindles you on all the prices.
If the suspension was professionel serviced, why is the shock super dusty in the close up shots of the bike, in the shop?
Am I the only one wondering how Alex is going to charge this thing out of his van?
You can suffer, and you can workout for the same time that you did on your analog bike. With the eBike you get three times the trails.
Turbo Kenevo SL. Great 1st e-bike pick! Welcome to the great new world of great e-bikes! Wait till you try it out in Colorado on a 2500+ foot climb. You will appreciate it. We ride them in Salida, especially to climb to the Rainbow trail or above 10,000 feet!
There is a reason that 70% of the sales in Europe are e-bikes. It's the amazing fun factor!
Sorry bro, I tuned out at your e-bike hint. Loved your videos of Germany tho!
I have MS and am >60 yo. I started Mtn biking in 1986 and it's been a huge part of my life. My right leg fatigues way quickly now in my hip flexor and hamstring due the nerve issues. It got so I was too fatigued to unclip and put my right leg down when needed and riding became dangerous and scary. Plus I kept falling over when trying to stop. 😞I have been on an ebike for 2 years now. It's gotten me back out riding regularly in a way that I could never do anymore on my acoustic bike. More often, more miles and more fun. Safer too. A few years ago I saw a TGR movie profiling pro racer Paul Basagoitia who had a devastating spinal injury. He said that he was incredibly angry with biking after the accident and never thought he'd be on a bike again. Then the film showed him ripping up the trail and jumps on a pedal assist ebike in Crested Butte. He said that that was the first time that he felt like himself again since the accident. I wasn't angry at biking but I was angry at my body and now being on an ebike I know exactly what Paul meant. I feel like me again. I live in Summit County CO and there is huge anti ebike sentiment here. It sucks to feel ostracized by the community that I felt so much a part of before. I am so glad to see so many positive comments about e-biking and no haters. And to the guy on the trail who was screaming at me to "get out of here" and then told me he knows that he'll be on an ebike one day. I need it now and the "rules" need to change. Here's hoping that people start to come around and see that EMTB's are still bikes..... just better!!!
Ebikes are awesome and it's annoying that state parks like dupont forest don't allow them. It doesn't do anything to the trail that regular bikes do and it would allow soooo many more people to get on and try mountain biking.
Nope. Its the way some ebike riders behave. That throttle makes some want to ruin it for the rest of us. I believe nobody is stressing how much better the LACK of a throttle is for everybody. As with motorcycles in the 70's, we shall all be banned riding on public lands in the near future due to the 1% who simply do not care. At present, I cannot get anyone NOT riding an eBike to wave or smile in return. It is getting bad. And yes you get a great workout on an eBike.
E-bikes are great but because they are heavier and the added torque they do rip softer trails more especially if there are hoards of them running the same track over and over, if all I rode is hard pack and western mountain I would definitely.
@@jackmcandle6955the thing is a fatter or more fit rider would do the same. ebikes are like 10kg more at most. peoples weight difference is A LOT more.
I feel like E-bikes are a reflection of the downfall of society... I don't wanna work for it.. I just want the good stuff... No offense to anyone who digs them. To each their own.. I just like working for it... I think their is a satisfaction you don't get when the bike does the work for you... When I climb a big hill... I feel like I worked hard and earned it.. Not sure I would feel that way with a motor. Just my thoughts... I've never used one so take it with a grain of salt.
i know it fun and all to tow people. but talking from experience, we have two of the turbo levo bikes and racing around everywhere in turbo mode and occasionally towing people really wears on the motor. we still have the warranty (wich is a lifesaver) because we have replaced the motor 2 coming up on 3 times on each bikes now.
because of this we usualy avoiid towing and try to use the less powerfull modes. its hard, especialy after knowing what it feels like blasting UP the trails almost as fast as going down.
just keep this in mind when towing people or riding hard for long periods in turbo mode.
Yo I appreciate this bit if shared experience man; I'll keep in mind for sure!
I always wondered about this.
After all the bad stuff I've read about the pros closet it sucks to see mtb content creators pushing their brand. I looked at them a while ago and was just turned off from them because of their crap prices. But ive read nothing but bad things about them since then.
honestly an underrated part of ebikes is the grip they have. the extra weight at a lower spot on the bike is oddly helpful. If i ever get a new bike it will be an ebike.
Yeah, they are amazingly stable and corner really well in my experience. Even on low speed tech, the low center of gravity makes them easy to balance and track stand at low speed.
@@mrvwbug4423oh for shure. lower cg feels good.
I don’t know what I hate more people saying analog or acoustic for a normal pedal bike. It makes me cringe that they are just trying to make it more hipster like it’s a freaking E bike or a pedal bike.
literally just trying to distinguish between two bikes lol
👍 I love that bike, I'm surprised it's an E Bike but, other that that it's sweet !!! Man! It's fast ! 😁
I have often thought that with the number of trails you ride that require long climbs that an ebike would be really interesting. Looking forward to seeing what you think of it.
Man! Sick bike bro!! I had a full blown Levo but it's a bit too much and went back to a regular bike. Can't wait to see if maybe the SL is the sweet-spot.
Congrats on the ride dude
Let the haters hate…I used to be one of them -now I have shifted and changed gears! Some people ride bikes for exercise, some just for fun, some a combo of both. I fall into that last category…but sometimes I want to just maximize the fun part. So I shuttle, or go to a lift access park, and of course now -we can ride an e-bike!
Flew to Bentonville, rented regular bikes for two days, and e-bikes for two days. When I got home after riding the e-bikes…I was just as tired because I rode more than double the distance and maximized the fun! 🤘
It will be fun to see this type of content from someone I have been following for years!
Love your videos. I noticed your 5K monitor is no longer mounted. Did it break? Did the mount fail? The work station in my van is loosely based on your design/monitor mount . I have not installed it yet, but have 1 1/4 inch of sandwiched plywood behind the paneling to mount into and I pre-ran the wires. Did your system hold up? Thanks for your help!
Excellent choice! I’m on a fully upgraded Levo and wouldn’t trade it for the world. Specialized can run quite silent besides the motor. Just need some adjustment. I’m not totally convinced about towing with an SL though.
"Acoustic bike." lol Unplugged bike? Vanilla bike?
Mountain bike emountain bike that should be the only lingo
“Regular bike”
Been using the term analog bike
whatever happened to the chaindrive vs pennyfarthing debate?
Think about how much faster you picked up speed with 10lbs in the bike and then think about someone like me that's probably 50lbs more than you. Hahahahaha! I'm always teasing my buddy about how he'll be pedalling on a dh section and I'll be coasting and catching up to him or passing.
Great video dude! People who want to discredit or talk s**t about emtbs have obviously never spent time on them. They are so practical and make so much sense for those of us who have a life and are time poor. The well designed ones also handle amazing well and make the average trail a heap of fun. I bet you’ll end up spending more time on it than your analog bike. Enjoy mate👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Weakling
Will you still be making videos with your mtn bike this summer or only the electric bike ?
Oh of course i will! i love riding my bikes, all kinds of them for different reasons. This is just an addition, not my only bike
I love the idea of e bikes! When I don't want to pedal I just ride my dirt bike. So I'll probably never do an e bike, but I love what they do!
You have to pedal an e-bike tho lol
Acoustic bike? Really?
I think the best way to test the workout portion is to wear a heart rate monitor, I hear chest mount is best, and ride a local trail that has a good climb on your old bike one day and ride the same trail the next day on the e-bike and compare your heart rate and calories burned. You could also use the heart rate monitor to test each of the climbing settings on the bike to see just how much of a difference each setting makes.
I recognize you use this channel to generate profits, and that controversy: views. This feels counter to your usual content. Meh.
Pretty sure that if you actually watch the vid you will see you are very wrong as the entire premise is about getting a new bike and having fun on it - very much on brand. The controversy is all in the comments, not in my video. Cheers!
@@The_Sampler You started the controversy yourself by accusing people who disagree with you of being "Karens" and then "crazy". Not exactly the way to start a respectful discussion.
That’s awesome. I bet you’ll love it. Don’t know why people hate on e-bikes. They are still a bike. They open the sport upto people that have health issues (like me/ asthma) that couldn’t safely ride otherwise. Also means you can get out after work and shred out 3 or 4 laps over 1. They are just a different tool for the same fun sport. I love them. But also love hardtails and everything in between. 🎉
You DEFINITELY get a workout bro , any ebike you ride just put it in “ Eco mode “ and you will soon find out ! 😂 it’s like 80% you and 20% motor power 👍🏾
10:51 You are not going faster downhill because of the weight of this bike. Gravity is a constant, so weight doesn’t matter at all
In the absence of friction you are right, but when there are tires on the ground it matters I’m pretty sure
@@The_Sampler I did some research and turns out the increased weight actually gives you more momentum. So, even though you are not getting more speed, the speed you have can be carried further
Before you even said you struggling to get it out was a hint, just that first tug on the box was obvious 😂
Curious to see how you feel about an ebike :)
50% will dislike is all you needed to know
I am curious to find out where you are actually going to ride the thing. I have been wanting one but not a lot of places to ride unless you pay at a bike park. And I am at the age where I limit my jumping so I am wondering where you find legal trails in Western NC to ride. Good luck and be safe on it!
that place I rode in the last video is ebike legal! Green River gamelands
You'll never go back
While it's not a perfect science, maybe track your calories burned until you hit a certain number (1000, for example). Ride the same climbs and trails until you hit 1000 calories burned. Wear a chest heart rate monitor, and see how long it takes you to burn 1000 calories. Ebikes will help you ride longer, which is awesome, but you will definitely burn less calories on climbs, but maybe more on downhills since the bike is heavier. Downhill workouts/calories could be different too, and they're just as important (using different muscles throwing the bike around while jumping and whipping through turns). Handling a heavier bike going downhill could burn more calories than your standard acoustic bike.
or maybe just have fun riding.
@@TomCollins-c4h he asked for suggestions, so...
Already did that, Turbo Levo SL Comp Alloy 2019, 58,49KM distance - 1178 Cal. (1,5h moving time). Now the fun thing: 3 hours moving time - 1024 Cal - 60.04KM on 320Wh battery - it means that I used 106W per hour, but the thing is this was a 5 hour trip with stops (when bike was not turned off) so technically it was more like 60Watt per 1h. I came back quite tired, the trail was flat but still I wanted to drain-test the battery.
Rich guys… I can barely afford my storage unit bill yet alone an e-bike
Sell the stuff in your storage unit, and buy an eMTB?
@@jmo2752 I may have to use the power of student loans
was thinking of one of them for the climb to my local FFL, 9 miles up a 45 degree grade. but decided against it as normal bike for same price has far better components.
E-mtb or not, so long as you're ridin, it's all good brutha.
e-bike legal, such a dumb idea, feel sorry for those in the USA, pretty certain its a non existent thing here in the UK
When i got my first ebike rm altitude poweplay i was riding it nonstop for 2 weeks but then started to dislike it because i noticed its not replacing what i can do or feel with my trailbike and i started to notice that i was loosing fitness since i used to train a lot. Now its my cheat day bike. I train 5 days a week with mixed gym and long rides on my regular bikes and on friday is my cheatday and i ride some downhill trails when my legs are sour from the training before. In my old age its important to me that i keep my edge and create enough strss on my system to stay fit. I wouldn’t like to have only an ebike, it would make me weaker but as a addition to the training its actually awesome.
That handlebar's got to go bro!
Nice choice for your riding needs. I switched to an EMTB after breaking my back a few years back. It really aided in my recovery. I watched your video recently on the kind of workout you get on an EMTB. It looked like you pushed yourself on the ebike no differently then you did on your analog bike. I do the same. The difference is that my speeds, distances, and climb difficulties increased. I ride for a fitness, and fun benefit. That does not change from analog to EMTB. What ever makes others happy is up to them. I like my EMTB as it increases the fun factor on my rides. The more fun I have, the more often I end up craving a ride. For those that don't want an EMTB, ride an MTB. They are both amazing and a great excuse to play on a bike like we did as kids. It's a win win. Live to love. Love to ride, encourage others to find their stoke
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You could do a comparison of calories burned and HR through out the ride. More recent Garmin devices have e-mtb as an option that takes into account the power of the bike.
I liked just for "acoustic". 😆🤘🏾🎸
Strava > ebike > clean shaven
It's absolutely crazy what you guys have to deal with in the U.S regarding eBikes. Here at Spain, an ebike it's like a normal bike. All trails are avaliable from both. Most of the new bikes sell these days over here are eBikes. Once you try it's hard to go back if you are only looking for fun.
Love your content, easily my favorite biking youtuber. Keep up the good work!
With the bike market now I’ll just wait for some nice sales, support the local shops, and the bike will be new with some free maintenance perks :)
Sponsored people have one obligation and obligation only, don’t speak negative about our products, just market it, that’s it!
I'm one of those who dislike this bike 🙋♂
The pros closet is great! Got my current frame from them basically brand new, shame it was a E-bike so time for me to stop watching this video…
Welcome to the E Club, 71 years young, I am still riding Crested Butte and Moab, thanks to my Turbo Levo, still have my Stumpjumper but could never climb real mountains, getting a little, "long in the tooth" shall I say. I am an admitted flat earther from Florida. All the E-bike haters will eventually find, what I discovered. I understand exactly how they feel, I felt the same way, until I was able to climb 5000' in Colorado up to nearly 11,000', without O2, LOL. I like my shuttle service. Teocalli Ridge CB Trail 557, 2023 Slickrock Trail Moab, no problem. The bike does not move unless I pedal it is almost 😄bionic.
I ride an Ibis Ripley for mountain biking, but I also did a lot of road riding on a Giant Defy Road Bike. Funny thing is, I'm not as young as I use to be (like I was when I rode a lot back in the 1990's) and I found myself not able to keep up with other bikers more than half my age. So I got myself a Trek Road E-Bike. What I've learned so far about E-Bikes: I'm still getting a great workout, even after a 20-30 mile ride and that I can now keep pace with other riders. I also learned that climbing hills now is a lot easier for this old man (I say that jokingly.) That said, I'm now thinking of purchasing myself an E-Mountain Bike for the same reasons. Thanks Alex for another great and informative video....GET STOKED BRO 😎
I’ve built half a dozen e-bikes years ago but they’re pretty janky on trails. Now looking at getting a complete SL EMTB. In the interim as I approach 50 my mates have got full fat EMTB and I’ve lost fitness. Can a SL keep up with full fat bikes? 2 issues: speed and range.
Ah, a Specialized e-bike. You might as well eat a McDonalds, shop from Amazon and drink Starbucks coffee, whilst shopping on-line at Walmart. As boring, grey (no irony lost on it's colour) and corporate as you can get. Absolutely soulless.
Booo-moped 👎
Love the video, love the bike. I have seriously been considering buying one after years of hip problems. I was riding White Water Center yesterday and just pedaling through the pain. I can’t see myself hanging up the mtb due to physical limitations. E-bike may be the answer. Let me know when you box her up and send it it back. I would likely buy it! Keep posting great content and maybe we will cross paths in western NC someday.
Love the video, love the bike. I have seriously been considering buying one after years of hip problems. I was riding White Water Center yesterday and just pedaling through the pain. I can’t see myself hanging up the mtb due to physical limitations. E-bike may be the answer. Let me know when you box her up and send it it back. I would likely buy it! Keep posting great content and maybe we will cross paths in western NC someday.
Ebikes lead to way more laps, saddle time, progression, and fun. They add to your cardio through aerobic numbers, but not as much anaerobic. Basically, you don't bonk near as quickly and therefore ride for a much longer time. Actually burning more calories than the acoustic bike. I personally think on fast large jumps that they are better (more stable in the air with the low slung added weight)! Enjoy!
You gotta be insane if you buy a bike from pros closet. They sell the used bikes almost at the prices of new bikes. What a horrible business model
Great Video Brother, glad you're having fun and happy with your new RIDE........🤝🏾🇺🇲💪🏾👌🏾
Literally I have seen used near stock bikes selling more used on pros closet
Than for the sell price on manufacturers websites
I love E bikes, even if I ride an analogue...just because they can bring more people to the sport, and they can be really efficient with your time, some friends ride on them and they are sick!, I truly get why people like them and it's totally fair.
The only downside for me is actually how some people don't respect the rest of the riders in the trails, especially the young newbie who wants to show off he is the "boss" of the trail when you are going downhill, a couple of weeks ago an Ebiker overtook my girlfriend and make her fall in a risky area and just said "I thought I could do it" the problem is when their lack of experience ends up affecting the rest.
I'm on a full-power Levo. At the bike park yesterday there was a 45-minute wait for the lift. While I could climb the hill in 15 minutes. I got in 14 runs while my friends got in about 6 taking the lift.
That heavy-sticker is hilarious! Heavy to whom? Your little sister or your weightlifting world champion or your brother who haules kitchen appliances for a living? :P
Alex, you asked for ideas... RUclips shuffled from this onto your heartbreak ridge video... video idea for your ebike, ypu could do heartbreak again, to see how much easier it is assisted and how the battery lasts on a 26 mile loop.
I ride hard all day but the most fun I ever had was Test riding all these E bikes, when I went to Santos MTB park in Florida for a MTB festival and I had a blast, crazy fast , awesome jumps , no sweat 😥 , no lie , no sweat.. I want one ,
I work 80 hours plus do my RUclips channel and I wish I could afford a bike like that. Someday they ride an old-school full suspension. Just don’t have the money to buy a nice mid-level.
The pros closet is like GameStop but for mountain bikes. Oh, you want to sell your bike, $1,200 best offer. Gets posted shortly later at $4,400
Do you do consultations on "how to live this life?" Van / MTB life... not being a RUclipsr part. Thanks. Can PayPal you $$$$
You mean "The Pro's overcharged prices closet?"
Yeah, okay....I mean, I'm happy for the guy, they gave him any bike he wanted for a riding season? Geez, how generous.
And of course, the deal was to plug the "Pro's rapers closet" as much as possible, right??
I'm literally 52 seconds into this and I am all done just because he's plugging and getting used by them.😅
Ahh, the things we will do for a shiny new ....wait, uh, an overpriced new bi..no...er, wait....a carefully photographed (as to hide blemishes as best as possible) used to be new once upon a time bike!! Yay!(new to him anyway)
He's right, I hate the idea of him buying an e-bike. Yes, they have a place for people who need some help, but In general I'm disappointed to see so many younger guys who are just lazy...
Ebike haters in my opinion are disappearing.. And now with the new game changer, pinion motor+gearbox+optional auto shift unit, it's going to have a bigger influence on everyone, I think.
I absolutely love my Vitus e-sommet VRS, just means I can get more and ride longer..whats the deal with the e-bike legal designation???
42 pounds is super light man, my slash weighs 40 after i put a 38 and coil on it and its not even an e bike. Hopefully people don’t hate on the ebike and like biking with bobo has shown people that hate ebikes just haven’t ridden an ebike.
Shout out to Gravelo also for being the only shop in town to install ride wraps! Not sure public opinion of ride wrap but I love it! Has saved me multiple times for silly unnecessary dings and nicks!
I wouldn't say that you don't get a workout at all when riding an e-bike, but you do get less of a workout IMO (even if you are putting in the same effort as a normal bike, you go faster and thus put in that effort for less time)
I actually had an ankle injury and was planning on a new bike I am seriously considering a ebike it may be the only way I will be able to enjoy biking again